Megyn Kelly's Good Friday Confession on Going Through Annulment Process and Her "Crisis of Faith"

Megyn Kelly is joined by Bishop Robert Barron of "Word on Fire Catholic Ministries" where she gets personal and opens up about going through the annulment process, why it's leading to her having a "crisis of faith," the role of marriage in Christianity and Catholicism, Megyn's trip to an Episcopalian church, and more.
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[@frjosemaria]

As a Catholic priest all I can say is: thank you Megyn for being vulnerable and opening your heart. ‘Trust the process’ is the best advice you can be given. For every single person in my parish I have helped with this process, it has become an opportunity for healing and growth in their lives.

[@jeanetteambrose4854]

God Bless you and all the dedicated Priesthood,the Brothers,and the Nuns.May all of us be helped,healed and restore Faith and practice...💛🙏🕊🛐✝

[@brookehanley3659]

I give Meg credit for trying to go to a church. Any church. I agree there is something so beautiful about the structure of the Catholic Church and the Catholic religion. It is quite grounding. And part of that is the rules and structure. After I attend the Mass I honestly DO feel different and better.

[@moniquemcgriskin652]

I hear this often and yet, that has not been my experience at all. I am getting closer to the end of the process and now they are suggesting that my husband, who is not Catholic, may also need an annulment for his previous marriage. It sometimes seems like a money grab to me.

[@brookehanley3659]

@@moniquemcgriskin652 seems wrong to me for money to buy an annulment

[@txgrandma3]

Thank you for answering the call to the priesthood. We are so blessed to have good men like you who dedicate your lives to become our spiritual fathers. 🙏 May God bless you!

[@Mumzie-Est.2021]

Megyn, I went through the Annulment process after a 35 year marriage came to tragic end. And when people ask me 'why' I answer them this way with a few simple questions: Were you baptised? If the answer is yes, then I say "Undo it." Their reply is always, What? You can't. Then I ask, Were you Confirmed? If the answer is yes, then I say "Undo it." I get the same reply each time. How do you undo a sacrament? You can't. You can ignore it. You can rebel against it. You can come to hate it, but you cannot undo it. So, if that is the case, then how do you 'undo' a marriage? You can't. A civil divorce only separates earthly things, not sacramental heavenly things. You cannot nullify God's participation in these gifts, these sacraments. So what exactly is an annulment, which is correctly called a Nullification? It is not a Catholic Divorce. What it is, is determining who each of you were at the exact moment you said your vows, and whether there was any impediment to the vows on either of your parts in the sacrament itself. Without getting into the weeds of Canon law here, Who were you and your spouse at the exact moment you said your vows at the Altar? That's why those seemingly intrusive questions are asked. You are asking the Tribunal to go back in time to the exact moment of your vows to figure out all of the things that would have hindered or blocked your marriage from being sacramental. I learned more about what marriage actually is, as designed by God, by going through the Annulment process than I ever knew before. And one of my greatest sorrows was realizing that my former husband and I never had all that God had wanted us too. For many Protestants, this will make no sense because they do not consider marriage a sacrament. (And I was raised Protestant.) That's a whole 'nother subject. But for us, for you, there is a catharsis in this process, and a tremendous healing. I must tell you that the Tribunal of my Diocese embraced me and held me so close during the whole process. I cried hard, and they were always there for me. Always. They answered every question, and told me the truth, even when it was hard to hear. Again, I learned SO much about what marriage actually is as designed by God, and not what it is as designed by mankind. They could not have been kinder or more thoughtful. I hope your experience will be the same. The enemy want's you to recoil at this. He wants you to abandon your faith. He's going to try to draw you away to another sect, even another religion. He hates holy marriage, precisely because it is to mirror Christ and His Church. This is your garden of Gethsemane, Megyn. Don't give up. Pray forward. Pray into this. Pray harder. And Trust! Because either the Church is the repository of faith in all the sacraments you have already received or she is not. If you trust her with your Baptism, your Confirmation, Confession, the Eucharist, all of it, then trust her in this. Be at peace.

[@Nerinabell]

This comment should be pinned at the top for all to read and understand about the annulment process.

[@corneliaengland4008]

I went through the annulment process when I became Catholic. When my witnesses wrote their perception of my first marriage it reaffirmed that my marriage was a sham! My late husband’s first wife had already gotten an annulment but when my marriage was blessed I knew I was married! I also had the same experience with the Tribunal as my RCIA priest never told me I needed an annulment until 6 weeks before my scheduled 1st Communion. I arrived on the steps of the Archdiocese in New Orleans the next day and demanded to speak to someone. Back then everything had to go to Rome. I met with the head of the tribunal and the Monsignor explained I would not receive my first communion and confirmation at Easter…..but he would hand deliver my petition to Rome….and it would be granted by Advent! I have never looked back and my Catholic faith has led my journey through so much joy and times of trial. Mostly the illness and death of my late husband. But also my 38 years of sobriety! Every time I receive the Eucharist…..I feel the presence of the Precious Body and Blood of Christ❤

[@marye7798]

Well said. Just brilliant. Thank you!

[@jonkelley7713]

❤great and clear explanation

[@danieldriscoll532]

Muncie, that was so beautiful. I went through an annulment 36 years ago. I know that it helped me and strengthened my faith. I have been married now for 35 years

[@Nicole11522]

Marriage and family is the bedrock of society. I am so thankful to God that the Roman Catholic Church takes marriage so seriously.

[@vanessagarcia7515]

Exactly!

[@susanburrows810]

The Catholic Institution takes marriage so seriously they promote annulments, & getting married again. Destroys families & harms people. Doesn't sound good or right. NOT IN BIBLE! So many annulments ( a divorce MUST precede a Cath annulment) in Cath Institution that it "concerns" Cath leaders. Getting more & more prevalent. Wonder why? Sin has taken hold, & people looking for a way/ excuse out. THEY HAVE FOUND IT IN THE CATHOLIC INSTITUTION😢

[@dallasbrat81]

Your funny Catholic take nothing seriously look at Catholic in democrat party

[@Nicole11522]

@dallasbrat81 Yes, there are a lot of Catholics in name only, unfortunately.

[@dallasbrat81]

@@Nicole11522 that includes their leadership. If I was charge and had a blank check .I would spend Vat billions on actually serving the least of us . The USA govt doesn't take care of its citizens and the Church needs to pick it up

[@bullirish]

I have never had as much respect for Ms. Kelly as I have now after listening to her.

[@jayniekinser7029]

Yes; I too have even more respect for Megyn. She seems so kind and genuine here. I like her all the time but this is truly endearing.

[@NeesieGAMama]

Agreed.

[@mickw.4912]

She has a beautiful soul. So glad she is a Catholic

[@newtexan1]

Seriously?? I have lost any respect I had for her? If you agree with her you aren’t Catholic or you’re an ignorant Catholic. I’ll never listen to her again.

[@leapdrive]

People like Megyn who take their sacramental vows seriously (or try to amend them) will in the end find solace and comfort in God. Only those who take the narrow road to heaven make it. St. John the Baptist was arrested by Herod’s because he accused Herod of marrying a woman who is his brother’s wife who still lived. He was eventually decapitated upon his order. Yes, our life on earth is about proving to God that you’re obedient to His commands.

[@Cjean821]

Megyn’s honesty is so genuine, which makes her so relatable in the best of ways.

[@michaelthrone]

Actually, Megyn was only partly honest as she attempted to point the finger at "these men" for her decision to not only leave her Catholic marriage without annulment, but also to "marry" another person and commit adultery in the process unless she never had conjugal relationships with her let's call it "secular husband." The guilt she feels more than likely comes from the realization that she went back on her sacred promise she freely made to God to be united in marriage until death with no exceptions. If a marriage relationship becomes very difficult to maintain after serious attempts to make better, there can be separation, and in the worst cases, there can be a civil divorce if reconciliation appears highly unlikely and for other considerations, but such a civil divorce does not impose a divorce on the Catholic marriage. Again, spouses can live apart, but only death of a spouse ends a valid marriage. Now, Megyn's attempts to point the finger at "who are these men to judge me?" is a dishonest effort to shift the blame for her failure onto others. To be truly honest is to not seek a way out of what appears to be a valid marriage, but to apologize to God for breaking her solemn promise to him, lead a chaste life moving forward, and see if a decree of nullity will be granted, which can only be done legitimately if it is found (not just claimed) that there was a significant impediment present at the time of her original wedding that made the contract she entered into with who is putatively her real husband void. If the marriage was/is valid as appears likely even based in part on how Megyn falsely characterized "who are these men to judge me?" which suggests she knows she was validly married and so dishonestly she is pulling at straws in the hopes that an unlikely reason for being granted a decree of nullity will be attained, then she has the option to do the right thing as set forth above or she can continue to dishonestly accuse "these men" and sadly live in defiance of the Lord for breaking her most solemn promise to him. Pray for Megyn that she drop any and all dishonest rationalizations, and seek to do the right thing by fully reconciling herself to the Catholic Church as she appears she would like to do, but at present, not in accordance with Church requirements that defend the sacred character of Holy Matrimony that, again, she knew all about when she entered into her Catholic marriage since couples are educated about such things prior to their marriage, and they must demonstrate a solid understanding of the requirements.

[@NiaLaLa_V]

@@michaelthrone How dare you. You don't get to speak for her. I'm not reading the book you just barfed up.

[@Mary-mh3us]

Speak to Fr. Mike Schmidt, who you had on the show previously

[@dietersdawgs]

About as honest as Alan Dershowitz saying he doesn't like 12 year old girls!

[@michaelthrone]

@@NiaLaLa_V Thanks, snowflake. I am not speaking for Megyn Kelly, but you simply don't have the capacity to understand. How dare Megyn Kelly challenge Church teaching on Holy Matrimony. Only the truth will set you free.

[@rickys3032]

A very personal thing she is going through. To talk about it on air is really a brave thing to do. Glad she is seeking help rather than just abandoning the Church. Good luck Megyn, and Good Bless!

[@annettevandel5411]

Father, touch Megyn's heart. She's seeking you. Answer the questions and doubts that she has. Show her you are real and she can talk to you like I am now. She's going through some troubling times. Bring her peace. I ask that your loving, guiding hand be upon her. In Jesus name. 💗

[@wendytinkleryt]

Amen 🌸 Thank you, Annette! 🙏💝🌟

[@arlenefisher1164]

Amen.

[@michaelthrone]

And may she be granted the gift of complete honesty regarding the reality of what appears to be her Catholic marriage that she wrongly refers to as her first marriage. Also grant her the grace to accept the Church's decision that may not bring about a decree of nullity, and that she will change her life accordingly instead of bitterly judging the Church because it fulfilled its obligation on behalf of sacred matrimony.

[@NiaLaLa_V]

@@michaelthrone Get a hobby.

[@VivekSmith]

The story in the New Testament is, Roman soldiers came to arrest Jesus. He had a trial. Jesus was beaten and left on a tree for animals to eat. His feet might have only been a few inches above the ground. After he was dead for three days, his ghost appeared to many and then he rose up into the air and disappeared behind a cloud. Knowing what we do about how "gospels" were written, there is no reason to think that was a true story. The power of the Jewish God yhwh was greater than the Romans who destroyed the Temple in 70 AD. How can you even say "Jesus" with a straight face?

[@buzzpedrotti5401]

Wow. This was a gem. Bishop Barron's explanation of the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist is outstanding.

[@bobinfaith]

Thank you, Megyn and Bishop Barron for this very informative interview and discussion.

[@cheryloster3492]

I was raised Catholic. I tried another church for a while. I’m back to the Catholic Church. I love the rituals. The Eucharist IS the body and blood of Jesus. The more I become a practicing Catholic the closer to God I feel. 🙏🏻

[@jamesblank4115]

You are being brainwashed

[@cheryloster3492]

@@jamesblank4115 I’ll pray for you. 🙏🏻✝️

[@easymoney7007]

Could not agree more. Catholic my whole life. Am now attending Mass and more involved than when I was young. It is so rewarding. And scripture makes so much sense, more so now. Absolutely love the Catholic faith.

[@marygonzales9516]

​@jamesblank4115 and satan has a hold on you...

[@leokadia333]

@@jamesblank4115 Rack off.

[@tesstorres1462]

Meygan, I was in a similar situation. Civilly divorced but did not submit annulment request to the church. Lived in sin for 16 years with my now husband. The annulment process was very difficult for me as I had more pain in my childhood and young adulthood than I realized. The evil one was hard at work casting doubt and fear for many years. I never left the church but it was hard not being able to receive communion at Mass. The change came when my current husband and I agreed to live as brother and sister until the annulment process was complete. I thought how can I ask God for His blessing if I am living in sin? Things began to turn around and I found the strength through sacrifice. We have been in full communion with the church for 3 years. All glory and praise be to God 🙏 ...there is more to the story but we are now catechism teachers and youth group leaders...so many blessings.

[@gantz0949]

Praised be God. Thanks for sharing

[@rosafranco9184]

I am in the same arrangement as you are and God has blessed me in so many different ways.

[@carmentsang7019]

Praise God for all that He has provided! I am so touched for all these witnesses and perseverance in trusting God's faithfulness!! ❤

[@sarahmartee]

🙏🏼

[@AnnieKartoDM]

Megyn, thanks for your honesty. I had my 1st marriage annuled after I married my present husband for 15 years. As I waited for my annulment process, almost three years, I would cross my arms for a blessing instead of receiving our dear Lord. Tears would stream down my face. My spiritual director told me to offer it up for so many that were receiving unworthily. A beautiful wedding gown stood waiting in my closet. When the day came for our marriage convalidation, I truly felt like the bride of Christ. Our youngest son who was 14 at the time walked me down the aisle. It is totally worth the wait. Happiest day of my life! When you reach that day, wear a beautiful wedding dress! I was not able to receive any sacraments for 3 years but I grew spiritually deeper in my relationship with our Lord and my husband🙏

[@SaritaBug]

Thank you for sharing. I am waiting for my husband’s annulment still, from his first wife, and its been almost 4 years of crossing my arms over my chest. Its been incredibly difficult not participating in the sacraments. So hard I want to give up some times and walk away from God. But I know I can’t. Thank you for sharing your story. It feels so lonely sometimes in this process!

[@angelakeep5238]

@@SaritaBug Roman Catholicism IS A GINORMOUS C U L T . . . led by Dope Francis .

[@adipoem]

I've always been into Eastern philosophy and mysticism, studied it, practiced it, but in my time of crisis and greatest need, I found myself drawn back to the Catholic church, the church of my childhood and ancestors. It nourished me on a cellular level, as if coming home.

[@margokupelian344]

Home, sweet home!!

[@Talletc]

Isn’t that the same thing?

[@marymonroe7042]

I went through the annulment process, before marrying my husband. Hang in there. That was 11 years ago when the previous marriage was found null. I love my Catholic Faith, and it gave me great peace on the other side of the experience. Prayers lifted for you. Please let us know when all is complete. You probably helped many people with your conversation with Bishop Barron. 🙏

[@kennethbaker5223]

I'm curious: How does a marriage become "null"?

[@marymonroe7042]

@kennethbaker5223 It is a process that goes to a Catholic Tribunal. There is a Canon Lawyer that defends the marriage bond and a Canon attorney that represents the person applying for an annulment. The marriage would have had an impediment actully before the marriage took place. So there is many questions to determine an impediment such as couples courtship, their approach to marriage and many other inquires to determine if the marriage was truly a Sacrament or had an impediment which would make it null. And I am describing this as a layperson, so I am sure this synopsis is lacking. But that gives you an idea.

[@christopherbates1428]

God bless, and Mary wrap Her loving and protective mantle around you!!!🙏🙏🙏

[@kennethbaker5223]

@@marymonroe7042 That’s interesting. Thank you for taking the time to explain.

[@marymonroe7042]

@@kennethbaker5223 you are most welcome!

[@richardrodgers7311]

I am a 67 RCIA convert (last year) and you have just won my prayers and my subscription. I understand the "cellular connection". Be patient Megyn. It took me a while to get through the process, albeit a different one. But it was soooo much worth it. God be praised.

[@OpenOceanOnly]

I’m so thankful to God you’ve come home to the Catholic Church! Pray for me and I’ll pray for you.

[@gwynethcook5663]

Getting our annulment was the most frustrating experience. But after it was done, we got married in the church, and it was so freeing and brought us even closer in our faith

[@jwp2166]

So Jesus actually said, "Come to me all you sinners and receive forgiveness....but you have to stop sinning before you do." ??

[@joeb3167]

@@jwp2166 Jesus actually said a lot more than just that.

[@jwp2166]

@@joeb3167 Such as?

[@joeb3167]

@@jwp2166 Matt 19:1-9 ; John 8:1-11 ... Easter blessings to you and your family.

[@jameslawracy2666]

I’ve taught RCIA for over 27 years. And many of those couples had previous “marital “ issues. It was frustrating to some of them but not one couple has regretted seeing the process through. I myself am now going to have to use the process. Because my wife of 44 years, friend of 52 years, withheld s on me information for over 25 years that I should have known so long ago and then she up and left. My respect of the marriage vows and the Church’s teachings ok on it are one and the same. I want to be able to freely remarry or at least have the ability to do so. In His Gospel teachings Jesus didn’t just do random things. The Apostolic Church recognized the 7 sacraments that He gave us. Marriage is one. The gift it brings is worth the sacrifice of the annulment process if your first partner didn’t enter it faithfully. God Bless and hang in there.

[@SimplyCJ1230]

I like what Bishop Barron said, “trust the process”. It’s not about the “man” behind the process. It’s about the Church protecting the Sacrament of Marriage. Hang in there, Megyn. Thanks for being real. We all have our struggles and are all sinners.

[@TaliaTallycat]

Sure. But sometimes easier said than done. Depends on what the nature of it is too.

[@justinreany1514]

It kinda is about the man behind the process. You are not aware of how these tribunals work. If your bishop and general tone of the regional Church is more "conservative" the process is more serious and attempts to stay close to Church teaching. The more liberal the bishop and surrounding regional Church the more "fast and loose" they are

[@johnalexis8284]

Barron has the gift of dodging

[@equatorialjourney4478]

The process is a sham & just another exercise in patriarchal muscle flexing . 90% of annulments are granted these days & as one v poignant Kennedy woman said ( many years ago ) , annulling a marriage is as easy as driving a Mack truck thru ‘ . 40yrs of marriage and 6 children later annulments are doled out line candy by parents having to tick appalling boxes of false admissions . All the kids learn from this pathetic process is they r not quite illegitimate but close to !!!!. When their time comes to annul their marriages ( if they haven’t already questioned the bs and simply followed tradition of feeding the Ch scams ) they will know how to play the pompous clerical games of smoke & mirrors required of them . Hmmmm, hardly beneficial lessons in Truth ,hey ? Instead of feeding this corrupt institution we shoujd be questioning the stupidity of the Ch for not acknowledging the many many MANY valid reasons for divorce . Had these same kids parents got married outside the CC they would not be subjected to these lessons of deceit and game playing.

[@j.a.b.7415]

Dear Megyn, and Fellow Catholic. I am a priest, and in the past I have accompanied many in the path of the PROCESS of annumment. I hope the priest --and/or other ministers helping you in the process-- have taken the time to help you understand the nature, purpose and profound meaning of this process, which is mainly: a spiritual journey through very (unavoidably) human means. [Also: knowing of your intelligence, I am confident that even if they haven't done a good job, your capacity for research places you in great advantage over many "regular Catholics"]. What moved me most, in your testimony about your difficulties in the process, was the fact that before the final decree and convalidation of your present union, there is the impossibility to approach the Sacraments. To that, I say: Continue your [very powerful] role of being a prophet --by reason of your Baptism. Many, many times, our Supremely Good GOD, before giving us water, grants us the gift of THIRST.

[@j.a.b.7415]

Megyn: We give thanks for your courage in fighting the cultural and philosophical battle in our present generation.

[@robertreese3523]

I’m sorry from everything I’ve seen, Megyn is a profound sower of division and hate and prejudice. No doubt the Church will grant her an annulment based on her money and media influence. The Church is becoming more and more a joke because of this. Thank God young people are recognizing this and walking away.

[@vivafamilia7867]

Our family returned to the Church last year. My children were able to watch my husband and I marry in the Church. I had no idea how beautiful, how holy , how healing getting married in the Church would be. I hope the same for my children and I see the blessings we receive and I am just in awe. Thank you , Jesus . Hang in there Megyn. It will be worth it. Thank you to God for the Church and this new family I had no idea we would love so much.

[@pmartin6086]

Welcome home ❤✝️🙏

[@heleneross2324]

11:50 n​@@pmartin6086

[@susanayork5374]

The treasure of the soul is the precious gift of baptism. We become children of God no longer belonging to the enemy. I pray you never leave the one true Church of Jesus where ONLY there He is present in every Tabernacle through out the world. May we be like a child trusting all things to Him. A humble and contrite heart create in us your baptized, grant us the virtue of a lively faith. Jesus I trust in you. God bless you

[@cherifarris615]

The annulment process was a barrier for me as a wanna be convert, but finally I got to the point where I wanted what was on the other side more than I didn't want to go through the process. It ended up being so healing and cleansing for me and I hope that you find it so as well. God bless you.

[@kennethbaker5223]

I'm curious: On what basis do people get an annulment?

[@michaelthrone]

@@kennethbaker5223 An annulment is actually a decree of nullity, and what it proclaims is that there was a significant impediment to entering into the marriage contract at the time of the marriage, so that the contract was invalid and an actual marriage was not contracted as presumed. It is very difficult to achieve an annulment because the 2 partners go through marriage preparation, typically for at least 6 months, and during this preparation, the elements of marriage and the marriage contract, etc., are discussed and made clear. As such, ignorance of some important element in the marriage contract is unlikely, and just claiming ignorance won't fly. Typically, a decree of nullity comes about when it is discovered and proven that one of the partners held back some pertinent information (previous marriage still in effect, mental illness, etc.) at the time of entering into the contract that renders the contract void. Bottom line: People don't actually get an annulment like a divorce. An annulment or more specifically, a decree of nullity, is a declaration that the presumed marriage contract was invalid. This is why it takes time, and it requires investigation into things that could make the contract voidable, so what people ignorantly cry about the process is necessary to make sure of the decision.

[@DavidOatney]

For a declaration of nullity to be granted their have to be grounds. For the grounds to be valid they're going to look at the situation in the relationship as it was on the day of the wedding. Was there some defect in the consent. Because the Catholic Church views marriage as a sacrament, all sacraments other than baptism for an infant must be entered into with full consent and freely. Was there some way in which that consent was lacking, did one party or the other not have complete knowledge of something they should have known about their potential spouse. Was there some way, for example, consent could have been lacking? Weddings where the spouses are really too young to give full consent are often grounds. So our situations where one spouse or the other was carrying on a relationship with someone before the marriage took place and the other spouse was not aware. Those are two of the most common grounds. Defects of form where you have a Catholic party but no proper church wedding is also grounds because the Catholic party ignored their Sacramental obligation. There is a lot more to it, but you can't really explain the details in a KZbin comment!

[@karensilady5729]

It was incredibly brave to share this situation. Bishop was kind and sensitive in his answer. As a cradle Catholic, still practicing my faith daily, I will pray for you that things will resolve quickly that you may return to the sacraments that you crave.

[@londontipton7780]

Megyn, thank you for this conversation. I appreciate your honesty ❤

[@michaelthrone]

Not all that honest. See my detailed response above to Cjean821.

[@song4568]

Megyn, you are a hero for even trying to go through this. Most never do. Going back to the full communion within the Church is so worth it. Be patient as Bishop Barron mentions. Your heart knows the truth. Nothing will ever replace the sacraments in your life, first and foremost receiving the Holy Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[@michaelthrone]

Indeed, but what will happen if the process does not grant her the result she seeks, and appears unlikely? Moreover, since a decree of nullity has not been granted, do you suppose Megyn is living without conjugal relations until a decision is reached? I hope so, but based on her defiance and stated history, it's unlikely. Megyn also has stated beliefs in opposition to other Church teaching, like what the Church teaches on IVF. Full communion is available to her and everyone else, but only on the Church's terms; not hers.

[@docverit2668]

@@michaelthrone Alas, if the annulment is not granted, more and more overly emotional and unwise people will blame the Catholic Church instead of realizing that it did its job properly for the benefit of Megyn Kelly regardless of the result. Wow. Megyn Kelly's support for IVF is also very problematic for her even though it does not appear to have anything to do with her desire for an annulment. Still, support for IVF is a grievous sin, so let's also pray that Megyn learn to reject this, but this will also be extremely difficult for her since she had children via the IVF process that almost always results in destroying some embryos.

[@jwp2166]

How is Holy Communion "the forgiveness of sins to sinners" if it is being withheld from Megyn because she is a sinner because of her former marriage?

[@michaelthrone]

@@jwp2166 Learn why the Catholic Church teaches this instead of ignorantly assuming it is wrong, etc. Go to the Catholic Answers website and the Catechism of the Catholic Church online. Here's a brief hint: St. Paul warns about eating and drinking the body and blood of our Lord unworthily. Good luck in discovering the reason behind with the withholding so you can be disabused of your faulty notion.

[@Yellow-Rose]

​​​@@docverit2668you're saying Megyn shouldn't have had her children? Because without ivf she wouldn't have had her children. It's unsettling to think if any embryos were discarded, but there's a lot worse that happens in life naturally. My mother had 3 miscarriages and we didn't have funerals for any of them, people don't do that bc there wouldn't be anything to put in a casket. It's horrible but that happens naturally. I believe it was nature correcting itself. People have the right to help themselves through science. God gave us the kind of brains so we can develop technology and medicine. There's all kinds of different ways God can bless people, I mean you have your nose pretty high up in the air if you think there's only one way. God works in mysterious ways, and we are here for His entertainment. Eventually after suffering and through her efforts Megyn had her children.

[@jerrytang3146]

As a teen ager I was in church almost everyday acting as an acolyte. College came, and I immersed myself in Catholic organizations. After I got working and raising a family, there was a gradual loss of 'connection' with the church because I was 'too busy'. And then I was attracted to this Protestant TV evangelist who was a great talker, andhe preached that people should 'research' about their religion and join the sect your heart and mind tells you is the one for you. So I did research and study which is the best church for me. It took me a while, but the more I re-immersed myself in Christianity, it became clear that there is really only one true church, and I went back to my faith with a greater understanding and conviction. I am now happily a Catholic again, and I have to listen to our great apologists often to keep the fire burning strong. I will die as a Catholic.

[@dallasbrat81]

Sorry research will not point you to Catholicism

[@rayeemon]

We love to read that

[@tonydugal5275]

Thank you for sharing your personal annulment journey. The annulment process also challenged my faith, my trust in the Church. It was not “cathartic” as advertised. But, in hindsight, I better understand why the Church offers this sometimes difficult blessing. Hang in there. Follow the Bishop’s advice to be patient with yourself. God loves you.

[@LeMcCHarStar4ever]

I love you Bishop Baron and I am praying for you Kelly!❤

[@richbryant9365]

I’m going through an annulment and I pray that my heart is extremely ready for the holy Eucharist. In the meantime I go to adoration Monday - Saturday and then Mass on Sunday with out receiving Jesus in the Eucharist but I do go up for a blessing. I trust in Jesus and will be ok with His will for all things to include the judgement of the outcome of my annulment. I do pray for his Mercy during Divine Mercy coming tomorrow. Either way I will never leave the mass ever again.

[@AnnulmentProof]

If your annulment is based on canon 1095.2 or .3, and you had kids, it's error.

[@tinajer9]

This conversation mesmerized me...I couldn't break away. I didn't know this about Megan, but now I like her even more than before I knew this about her. This conversation will help so many people and save so many souls. Thank you, Megan.

[@ScottChase-f3r]

I went through a formal annulment myself. It is an arduous process, but so worth it in the end.

[@2Uahoj]

It's only worth it if there are real grounds for it. Falling out of love with one's spouse - which is the case for must separated couples - is not grounds.

[@ScottChase-f3r]

My marriage was annulled, thank God for his mercy! Who knows about Meghan? There are several grounds, which I hadn’t even thought of previous to filing. The tribunals are very thorough, so BB’s advice to her is solid. Either way, it’s better to know one way or the other, in my humble opinion.

[@slademcmanus]

@@2Uahoj - Right. And worth it for who? How about the children? We can't make blanket statements about annulment. There are absolutely tribunals that have a 100% nullity rate for formal cases. That is not ok.

[@colajax]

I shall pray for you...Meghan....🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@ScottChase-f3r]

@@slademcmanus it’s worth it for anyone whom the Church grants it and even if they don’t. I keep coming across people that make comments like yours regarding annulments. The annulment process is clearly not 100% foolproof, but that’s no reason to be negative about it. Unless there is a deeper reason behind the criticism.

[@TJ-fd9vb]

Well into our respective 2nd marriages, my wife and I converted to Catholicism and went through the annulment process. I thought it was dumb. Then I started attending regular Mass and leading a men’s Bible study. Through this I noticed our marriage growing stronger. Now, by the grace of God, she’s pregnant with #4 which is an extra special blessing with us being in our mid to upper 40’s. I came to realize that Marriage, as a Sacrament, is so much more than the ceremony. It’s ongoing and present in our each and every day. Having gone through the annulment of our first marriages allows us to see the blessings present in this “final” marriage. Where two are present, so is He.

[@Momof2825]

Wow Megan! Thanks for being so vulnerable. I love seeing successful and famous Catholics speak about their faith

[@corneliaengland4008]

Thank you for being so vulnerable! God bless you on this journey❤

[@erinyvv]

I went through this annulment process too. This was when I decided to become Catholic. At first I was bitter but as I slowed, prayed and took it in, I found so many reasons that lead me to bad decisions in the first marriage. I am grateful for the process. It was such a life changing process! Don’t give up Megyn Kelly !! Let the Holy Spirit lead you!! ❤ Praying for you to see what God is showing you as you go through yours !! Much love 💕

[@timothysmith3230]

What a courageous example you are, Megyn! Thank you for speaking from your heart and letting us know exactly what you’re going through so that others can learn from you as well

[@susanbetts761]

Bishop Barron is just brilliant. Take heart, Megyn, God bless you.

[@laurahamer9165]

Megan take the Heart of Jesus at the cellular level ( check out all eucharistic miracles) .

[@michaelkeane8508]

He never supports Gods Commandments .He never says unless the person has committed adultery .I would think a drug addict or alcoholic who beats or hurts his wife or children mentally and physically it should be looked at .First get the hell out of the marriage .Yourself and your family come first God understands that .

[@greglaprade7507]

God's Word is more brilliant , infinitely so. This RCC system twists and rejects much of God's Holy Word

[@tony1685]

Barron follows catholicism, which isn't Christianity.

[@Donnamarie304]

Thank you Megan for bringing this up. You have no idea how many of us are going through the same thing.♥

[@annettemcdonald6502]

My husband and I went through the same as we sought annulments from our former spouses. My feelings were exactly what you expressed, and as we went through this process, I found myself becoming angry that these people I didn’t know were delving into our my personal past. I tried different churches too, but I found deep in my soul I could never leave the Catholic Church. It took a while, but we realized it was the right choice to make, my anger turned to relief, and we both returned to the sacraments. So trust you are doing the right thing, Megyn. God bless!

[@tingmedina4448]

Our dear Bishop Baron. You never ever let us down. You are wonderful and always give us such enlightening answers. Your love for mother church is so genuine. God bless you

[@pattytada9117]

Christ didn’t die on the cross for his teaching to be transformed into utter rubbish by Baron

[@easymoney7007]

​@@pattytada9117 Demons working strongly in you. Drop the negatively.

[@Procedentesinvictoria]

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[@2Uahoj]

​@@pattytada9117Are you a Christian?

[@easymoney7007]

@pattytada9117 the devil is working thru you to display such negativity.

[@franbalsamo8922]

I remember you bringing this up with Fr. Mike when he was on your show, and I wondered if you did eventually decide to get an annulment. I'm glad to know you are, and I just want to encourage you to stick with it hurdles and all. You're so accomplished, and I'm sure you'll get through the process of annulment with your faith stronger than ever. You may even see this as your best accomplishment ever. God bless you and Doug.

[@MelaniesManicures]

I’ve been through the annulment process too. Waiting over a year to go through RCIA when I was ready to receive our Lord in the Eucharist felt so unfair and I was impatient. But He was worth the wait. I also had to confess every sin I could remember since my baptism as a baby. That was humbling and so freeing. Just please be patient and know that the Catholic mass is the ONLY place that Jesus is present Body, Blood, Soul & Divinity. Just being there to worship Him and in His presence is absolutely worth it. It’s our duty as well. I struggle when I’m in a state of mortal sin I start missing mass because I don’t feel worthy to be in Christ’s presence. My priest told me that it is the devil who is deceiving me. Jesus loves, encourages and is merciful. The devil deceives, discourages and is condemning. This may help someone else. That’s why I am sharing.

[@retired201064]

I completely understand what you are saying, when you have sinned and avoid going to church. Father Is correct when he says that is the devil causing you to feel this way. He doesn’t want you to seek Jesus’ help because he hates Jesus. All the more reason for us to go to Mass and confession so we can receive the Eucharist. I find that when I receive the Eucharist it lifts my spirit up to God. When I go to confession I feel relieved that I am able to receive Jesus. When I was small and would have nightmares, my father would come into my room and make the sign of the cross + on my forehead and say the Our Father. He would tell me to tell the devil to go to hell where he belongs. But that’s the only one I can say that to because he is evil and trying to win you away from Jesus. I still do it. I’m now 78 years old. He was a real man of God. God is good in all things in heaven and earth. Trust in Jesus. He wants us to be with him. Sometimes when I receive the Eucharist I get so emotional that I find myself crying. Mostly because I’m so grateful and humble by His love and Grace. That He forgives me over and over and over is a purifying gift from God. I pray this pray ANIMA CHRISTI , Soul of Christ sanctify me, Body of Christ save me, Blood of Christ inebriate me, Passion of Christ strengthen me, Water from the side of Christ wash me, oh good Jesus hear me, within Thy wounds hide me, suffer me not to be separated from Thee. In the hour of my death call me and bid me come to Thee, that with Thy angels and Thy saints I may praise You for all eternity. Amen. My favorite prayer after receiving Holy Communion or anytime.

[@dshey6802]

I'm Protestant. I enjoyed your conversation immensely. It was very informative. Thank you for the question about communion. Bishop Barron's explanation made me understand what the bread and wine are all about during the ceremony when they become Christ's body and blood. He explains so well. What a great teacher.

[@gantz0949]

Read John 6 it's foundational in our theology of the eucharist

[@lacedchemist1295]

He also said you can get to heaven by works without knowing Jesus and that Jesus is just the privileged route. I stopped listening to him after that, minus this video bc I was curious about Kelly.

[@johnpglackin345]

And only a Catholic priest has the Authority and Power to consecrate the bread and wine into Our Lord's Body and Blood.

[@JonathanMoosey]

I will pray for you Megyn that your annulment is successful, that you will come closer to Jesus and make your way back home to our wonderful Catholic Church. I will also pray for Bishop Barron that he keeps finding the strength to lead us and save our souls.

[@brookehanley3659]

At this point without the annulment she is not allowed to receive Catholic sacraments like Communion. She knows this. However I know several who still go up and get communion despite no annulment with remarriage.

[@docverit2668]

@@brookehanley3659 Indeed, and those who eateth and drinketh the body and blood of our Lord are eating and drinking condemnation unto themselves and also need your prayers and the prayers of others to seek forgiveness and reconciliation. Megyn Kelly also knows that attending other false churches does not bespeak a heart seeking reconciliation, which is what she also did. But now that she wants to be fully reunited with our Lord's Church, she can once again receive the sacraments even if an annulment is not granted, provided she do things I hope she will accept but such appears unlikely. This includes giving up conjugal relations with her "second spouse," and she also needs to repent of her mortal sins involving support for and use of IVF that almost always aborts unused embryos. Alas, Megyn Kelly's split from the Catholic Church goes beyond her decision to give up on her first marriage (assuming it was and remains a legitimate marriage still in effect), so reconciliation will be a heavier burden that she may not be able to bear without a firm purpose of amendment and extra grace from on high. Pray that she be given the strength she needs to once again enjoy full membership in the one and only Church that Christ Himself set up 2000 years ago.

[@samaldridge7554]

Only Jesus lived a perfect sinless life. Therefore only Jesus could be the sacrificial Lamb to bring redemption and salvation. The priest may be a Godly man, but he can save no one. Salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone.

[@sbaumgartner9848]

Megyn, I'm not religious but I am impressed with how you have shared your personal thoughts about your 'crisis of faith'.

[@jameslawracy2666]

I just came across this discussion by chance. I’m a cradle Catholic and married within the faith to someone who supposedly was a raised the same. Unfortunately she withheld great secrets from me for over 25+ and then after 44+ years walked out. I’ve been struggling with this issue and will be requesting an annulment very soon. I really love Bishop Barron’s words.

[@bobandkelly]

🙏

[@gantz0949]

Yes sounds like ur case is open and shut. Prayers ur way

[@chrisroberts4001]

Prayers for you @jameslawracy2666

[@stephanmcmahon3013]

Megyn's confession on not observing Lent (@1:30) was truly humbling for her... stay strong , and stay in prayer. I hope that you and husband will receive communion soon.

[@jmjalways]

Wow Megyn! I remember when you brought this up to Fr Mike Schmitz! The Holy Spirit is moving in you. Prayers for you as you are going through annulment 🙏

[@scottsirk9364]

Beautiful thoughtful answers by Bishop Barron

[@edwardrangel6323]

I went through the process as well. It’s intimidating, humiliating, and personal. The pain, anger and sorrow you feel for your past mistakes is real. And then you realize that a tribunal of men will decide your fate is ridiculous, at best! Megan, it’s a cross you must bear. Don’t say no to it. It would be so easy to walk away, as I wanted to many times. I promise you that as you continue the process you will get closer to God. Sometimes we’re away so long that the way back is difficult and humiliating. What you’re feeling is so real and natural. Many times I just wanted to walk away and continue my life somewhere else. When I was ready to walk, God somehow encouraged me. That difficulty brought me closer to Him. I prayed more and asked for help. By the end of the process (17 months), I was more in love with my spouse, more forgiving of my ex, and had a deep and genuine relationship with God and His Church. This is your Good Friday Megan. If you want to follow Jesus, pick up your cross and remain faithful. I, for one, will mention your name when we offer our prayers at Mass. Faith, Hope and Love to you.

[@laurenflowers2023]

Why humiliating? I went through the process and never experienced that at all. As for men doing a review, you married a man ! Be a little more tolerant. Men are great people.

[@2Uahoj]

Why is a tribunal of men absurd?

[@edwardrangel6323]

@@laurenflowers2023 if you did go through the process then you know they ask lots of very personal questions. The process must get as much information as possible. Maybe you weren’t affected by these questions but I was. I had no idea they would ask these and then review the answers with you if they needed more info. I’m glad you didn’t feel a sense of humiliation. However, your personal journey through the process is just that. Others might agree and disagree. It matters not what we experienced. We completed the journey of the annulment process and are better for it. At least, I hope you are. I am still a Catholic who admires all who take this journey, regardless of what they felt AND what the decision was. Remember, not all sacramental marriages end in annulment. Some are sacramental and binding.

[@edwardrangel6323]

@@2Uahoj to clarify what I believed when the process began, I questioned whether a tribunal made up of men who were never married could understand the reality of marriage between a man and a woman. That wasn’t meant to be a sexist remark. As I went through the annulment, I came to the understanding that the tribunal was very pastoral and listened to all who participated with the questionnaire. They’re not there to discover the problem(s) in the marriage and offer ways to help. Their sole purpose is to determine if a sacramental marriage occurred. I began the process as a skeptic but God opened my eyes to another sacrament, the one of Holy Orders. My Advocate (a priest) and the Tribunal (3 priests) were absolutely wonderful.

[@2Uahoj]

@@edwardrangel6323 Well, can a person who was never in the military or in Iraq protest the US military presence in Iraq? Can a woman teacher judge male students, or a woman judge, judge a male defendant? This idea that we have to share the same gender or social characteristics in order to be "fair" to others is ridiculous. But as you correctly said, the "annulment process" is not about pastoral care or counseling, but determining if a valid sacramental marriage existed from day one. The problem is that so many Christians believe that simply falling out of love with one's spouse is grounds for annulment. But truly valid annulments are extremely rare. This is not because the Church is hard-hearted, but because the Church follows a man named Jesus Christ.

[@Thebink21]

Wow! Thank you Megyn for talking about this with Bishop Baron. Thank you for being real and honest about your thoughts....people need to hear stuff like this. I will pray for you and the process you are going through. Hold strong to your Catholic Christian faith. Blessings...

[@marilynclawson]

Megyn, thank you for being so open.

[@gburlison1]

Hang in there, Megan. Thank you for being transparent in your faith journey. God bless you, Bishop Barron. ❤🙏❤

[@johnhonovich6832]

Thank you Bishop Barron.

[@stephenedwardleemusic8997]

Im a life -long, struggling Catholic!! Thank You for your honesty and integrity Megyn.

[@angelakeep5238]

@@stephenedwardleemusic8997 Struggling lifelong ?? *BECAUSE Roman Catholicism IS A GINORMOUS C U L T , led by Dope Francis ! THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE GOSPEL CHRISTIANITY / SCRIPTURE+SCRIPTURE-MEMORIZATION / CHRIST JESUS HIMSELF / The fellowship of the saints {the saved} within a Bible Teaching church .

[@chasa4347]

Megyn, both my wife and I went through the annulment process, and I felt the way you described. We visited friends in Houston and attended a small Lutheran service with them. We talked about changing religions while the process drug on, but the other church just didn't feel like home. I'm so glad we stuck with our church. After being annulled, we prepared for marriage, something that neither of us did the first time around. Meeting with Fr. Desmond over the years to get the annulments and the months to prepare for the wedding was a blessing. Next Tuesday at 6 am, as I spend my hour with the lord in adoration, I'll burn a candle for you and send prayers for peace for you and for all Catholics undergoing the tribunal. Your show touched my heart! And thank you Bishop Barron for your kind words and loving guidance. your Brother in Christ, Chuck

[@AnnulmentProof]

Chuck, if your current marriage went way south, could you get it annulled?

[@chasa4347]

Not this marriage. Both of us went into this marriage doing everything the right way. I just don't see a tribunal nullifying this one. (Way different for both of us compared to our first marriages.)

[@AnnulmentProof]

@@chasa4347 but if it hits the rocks, isn't that proof that "something was missing?"

[@chasa4347]

Or it could be that someone has not followed up on their vows after having participated in a valid wedding. Not being an expert, if the second marriage is invalid for an approved reason, I think it can be annulled as well. (For example if you were coerced into both wedding not of your free will.) Now if you are the party that took the marriage seriously, and your vows seriously, and your partner starting cheating or developed an addiction after the marriage, I'm not sure if the answer would be tough luck, or if looking back, you'd see cracks in the persons psyche / soul?

[@AnnulmentProof]

@@chasa4347 if the primary purpose of marriage is procreation, what difference does it make if there are cracks in one's soul?

[@septemberdawnclark432]

I’ve been working through something very similar in my faith (LDS). Thank you for sharing. Through my tears, I could completely relate… I’ve never commented on anything before but your sincerity reminded me that I can’t sit in this empty space any longer. There is so much in this world that we cannot control. What we can control is the relationship we choose to have with God. He is always waiting for us. And it is the most important relationship we will ever have. ❤

[@pennylane8318]

Born and raised Catholic. I went to prayer meetings in the Charismatic Movement and started for the first time to read the Bible. Came to see there's religion and there's relationship. God seeks a relationship with His creation. I began to find God in His Word. "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." John 1:1

[@annb9029]

Everything in the Catholic Church is in the Bible Baptism John 3:5 - “Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” Matthew 28:19 - “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” Confirmation Luke 24:49 - “But stay you in the city of Jerusalem till you be endued with power from on high.” The Eucharist John 6:54 - “Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink His blood, you shall not have life in you.” Sacrament of Penance [Confession] Psalm 41:4 - “Heal, O Lord, my soul, for I have sinned against Thee.” John 20:22-23 - “And with that he breathed on them and said, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.’” Anointing of the Sick [Extrem Unction] James 5:14-15 - “Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the priests of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith shall save the sick man, and the Lord shall raise him up, and if he be in sins, they shall be forgiven him.” Matrimony Matthew 19:4-6 - “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, let no one separate.” Holy Orders Matthew 10:1 - Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness. John 20:22-23 - “And with that he breathed on them and said, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.’”

[@MB-sg8dx]

Well said. I too was raised Catholic and began to read my bible in my early 20’s which led me to discover that God desired to know me PERSONALLY. So beautiful. ❤Megyn, im praying for you on your journey. He sees you; He loves you; He will direct your path. Just keep looking to him.

[@et1016]

Amen 🙏

[@rae984]

Yes, AMEN!! DID THE SAME

[@goldodenigbo3860]

Religion and relationship are not mutually exclusive. God shows us how he wants us to relate to him through religion. If understood properly, true religion is the highest and most intimate form of relationship.

[@milliemitchell58]

Thank you for sharing❤I feel you

[@AZ1306AZ]

Megyn, good on you for going through the annulment process and for sharing this journey with us. I know it can't be easy discussing things with others. Sometimes, when I go to Confession, I feel nervous at first, but after I receive absolution, it feels amazing. I will pray for your journey! 🙏🏻

[@MrToddChris]

My current wife and I both went through the annulment process for our first marriages. It was by far the best and most important process I’d been through. You have to be brutally honest in the process about your experiences and failures in not properly engaging yourself with the sanctity needed for a proper marriage the first time.

[@rachelreimer3832]

Hi Megyn. Thank you for your strength in approaching this topic publicly. I am exploring the Catholic faith and really wrestle with questions like this. I'm so sorry for the pain that you are experiencing in this moment. I am so grateful to watch someone approaching this in an everyday setting. Words such as "trust the process" are meant with the best of intention and also don't help the person suffering in any tangible way in this exact moment. Witnessing your suffering has allowed me to grow deeper in my faith to be exact on what I want my relationship with God to look like; while also listening to what God would like for me.

[@jennifershaw8951]

In my own faith journey, I found reading and studying the Bible is how the Lord drew me and spoke to my hesrt, rather than through the keeping of many man made rules some denominations espouse. If your heart truly seeks the Lord, the Holy Spirit will speak through His Word in Scripture. Read the Word yourself and the Holy Spirit will help you understand. May God bless you as you seek Him as we celebrate Christ"s resurrection and our redemption through Him. Hallelujah! ❤

[@kellyb.5306]

I am so glad you are drawing close to the Lord, there's none greater than Jesus Christ. Denominations come from a division, the Catholic Church is the original Church founded by Christ. I too read the Bible and have the Lord speak to my heart. I also have the blessed opportunity to receive the Body Blood Soul and Divinity of Christ daily. Talk about an eternal well of grace. The early Church is how the Catholic Church is, daily Eucharistic partaking. The Our Father translation is actually from "give us this day our "supernatural" bread." Praise God for His gift of the Eucharist.

[@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc]

Apostles + original group of Believers compared to today’s Catholicism are quite Different.

[@Greenbeenz2]

What a beautiful and public sharing. Thank you for bringing this up in the public arena. It is a real pastoral matter, and having been through the process myself, it felt invasive and unnecessary at the start. But by the end, I am glad that I went through it. It was healing and cathartic in its entirety. Trust the process… ❤🙏🏻

[@jwp2166]

The process is not Biblical, arrogant, and harmful. Why should she trust it?

[@DavidOatney]

​@@jwp2166it is entirely biblical. What does Jesus tell us about divorce in Mark 10?

[@jwp2166]

@@DavidOatney He's not in favor of it. Who is? But where does he lay out the Roman practice of annulment?

[@DavidOatney]

@@jwp2166 Jesus is more than not in favor of it, he prohibits it. Remember that he is God and if he says no, the answer is no. So if the answer of almighty God to divorce is no, then the Church, which is God's agent on Earth, the Church is the body of Christ and Christ is the Second Person of the Trinity... Has to then determine what constitutes a valid marriage and what does not. Christ gave the apostles the power to bind and loose, and this is right up that alley. You're viewing the faith wrong when you demand to know where in the Bible the practice of annulment is laid out. The need for it is laid out the minute Jesus prohibits divorce, because since Jesus made the prohibition, the church then must determine what constitutes marital validity and what does not. Because if a marriage is not valid, then the people involved are not married. Also recall that the canonization of the New Testament historically was an entirely Catholic process. It's our book, and the Protestants got it from us. The Church existed before the books were even completed, hence the Church can determine their meaning and their context, and she has.

[@elizabethshearer8390]

Megyn, I'd like to let you know that I am praying for you and Doug to be able to complete the annulment process and to be in full communion with the Church. I could hear your yearning for Communion but also the frustration of the process. It IS long and tiring, but worth it. Just imagine the day you both will be united in a deeper, more meaningful way than you already are! Praying for that day to come soon!

[@CBlackartist]

There is a book called the Sacraments by Bishop Fulton Sheen. It explains in a simple and profound way each sacrament. I went though the process of annulment to reconcile with God through his church and that book helped me through the process.

[@jwp2166]

So you jumped through the hoops of law in a church that is supposed to be all about grace? Interesting.

[@MaryLicata-rh3yx]

@jwp2166 I can’t speak for the person you wrote this to but it sounds to me like it’s a church that hates divorce and respects marriage at it’s fullest. Every church has standards. If not, and they accept everything people desire, that’s not a church I’d want to be part of. Blessings to you.

[@jwp2166]

@@MaryLicata-rh3yx One can hate divorce and respect marriage without forcing people to go through the totally unbiblical process of annulment which is simply calling a former marriage not a marriage. It's harmful silliness.

[@gantz0949]

​@@jwp2166unbiblical? Mt 18:18

[@MaryLicata-rh3yx]

@@jwp2166 There is so much more to this than the "silliness" that you call it. Clearly you're not looking for answers, only to criticize. I won't argue with you, and I wish you all the best.

[@darrencook731]

He is Risen

[@robertdagit4315]

He is Risen Indeed!

[@2021-j2d]

Amen

[@lacedchemist1295]

Amen

[@prayangelm]

Bishop Barron's eloquence is not just about his intelligence. I feel the depth of his love for Jesus in the Eucharist. I have tears in my eyes listening to this. Praise God for this moment. And Ms Megyn Kelly, how I admire your courage. Thank you for this conversation and for your show.

[@deborah5763]

I am so happy I listened to you because I feel going through the annulment process was traumatic and caused a crisis of faith also. I am a convert. I was 56 when I converted and I was 33 when I divorced. I never remarried, but I guess I wanted to make sure I could have an annulment before knowing if I could remarry. I converted from the Episcopal church which is very woke!! Thank you for speaking up about the annulment process. It was not healing for me and even seemed to fracture my relationship with my son. I am glad to know I am not alone! I am 72 now and I was in my mid-60's when I went through the annulment process.

[@michaelthrone]

Another rationalization. The annulment process is not traumatic in any way, shape, or form for all people who approach it honestly. Those looking for an illicit way out of their marriage can find it traumatic that the Church will not just grant them what they want, and will not grant them an illicit annulment unless a mistake is made.

[@patriciao5239]

​@michaelthrone I'm sure it can be quite difficult, even feel traumatizing to some, just by virtue of the subject matter - 100% of people seeking annulment have had their marriage fail. So of course it's going to be a sore subject. That's not to say there's anything wrong with the process, just pointing out that your comments are unnecessarily harsh and perhaps lacking in understanding. Sure, some people who seek an annulment had an obviously valid marriage that cannot validly be annulled...but blanket statements like yours aren't valid either. It depends on the interplay of many factors....thus the Tribunal has to review and discern in each individual case. They weren't mass marriages, so likewise, each needs to be individually considered. Peace.

[@michaelthrone]

@@patriciao5239 Thanks, wimpy. What I set forth comes directly from Church teaching, so if you want to challenge somebody for a lack of understanding, challenge that person who looks at you from the other side of the mirror. Try again, and stop being so harsh in your comments.

[@johnsalamander-dz1qz]

I have been through huge issues with the Catholic Church. I love and respect your tenacity, and find inspiration in your trying to stay. YES, the Church has issues. But thank you, Ms Kelly, for exploring deeper. I will also do so, thanks to you. Nobody said this path would be easy.

[@matthewbroderick6287]

John, can I ask what issues you have with the Catholic Church? Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!

[@dianesullivan5521]

I’m speculating, but if I understand your meaning by issues in the Catholic Church, my wise spiritual mentor would remind me that if it is true that the Catholic Church is Christ’s established Church on earth, it is in that Church where Satan will be most active.

[@johnsalamander-dz1qz]

Hi, guys, and thanks for the lovely messages. I had issues at parish level, but which reflected things higher up. But, really, I do love the Church, even if grudgingly at times. And, typically of "my type", as I call myself, I was in a religious order for a while. I still do the Daily Office, still pray... but I have been outside of the fold for a while.

[@matthewbroderick6287]

@@johnsalamander-dz1qz Thank you so very much for sharing! Praying for you on your journey! God's grace and peace to you always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink! Mother Mary and Good Saint Joseph, watch over you!!

[@johnsalamander-dz1qz]

​@@connieeiden21Thank you, (Connie?). I appreciate your care and concern. Yes! Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament! I agree with you. I haven't been there for a very long time... but I must admit that I miss it. I remember the things that I felt in my time with the Franciscan community that I was in... But, again, thank you! Every blessing from South Africa 😊

[@DoctorPepper0]

Praying for you Megyn, that you resolve this and grow in faith within God's one true Catholic Church 🙏🙏

[@chantalsmalley400]

Hang in there Megan! Am going through it now myself … it’s not about a “man” who decided. Bishop Barron is correct and your patience will be fruitful. Praying 🙏 for you!

[@ciao2315]

It took my annullment about a year to go through. It was hard to relive all the bad moments on paper but freeing knowing I was correct in it not being a sacramental or proper marriage. I never went and read what was written nor discussed what my witnesses wrote because I know they wrote the truth which was clear as day. Anyone going through this now just have patience and believe ❤

[@christinapaget7667]

Love this discussion!!! As a Catholic Christian, I've certainly struggled with the authority of the Church, but learning to be humble and trusting God has been truly liberating 💖

[@KH-vp4ni]

Praying for you Bishop 🙏 you are so wise and so helpful, I'm so thankful for you.

[@janetplonka8110]

God bless you Megyn for sharing your deep thoughts on what you’re going through. I have been listening to Bishop Barron for a long time & one book he published is “This Is Body”. He explain throughly from the Old & New Testaments! It will help you understand. I’m a life long Catholic, grew up with faithful Catholic parents who lived by examples & still learning! My husband went through an annulment & took a few months. We’re still friends with his ex-wife Cheryl. They were young & married for the wrong reasons along with counseling for 2 1/2 & but the marriage was broken. I’m Very blessed we have been married 23 years this month. I will be praying for you Megyn. God bless, strengthen & protect! Keep sharing truth! ❤

[@EfrainValles]

I am going through annulment and i feel what the interviewer brings up. I just surrendered my process to God. The outcome is the Lords for his glory. Thank you for sharing this interview it strengthens us as the body of Christ.

[@marianbris61]

Thank you for sharing Megyn! I am now married to a Pastor, but raised Catholic. I too feel the Catholic faith at a cellular level, every time I am exposed to it like this morning. I miss the reverence and liturgy. God bless you.

[@marybeth8788]

Come home to the Catholic Church

[@andreamiguel3523]

This brings me so much enlightenment and wisdom. Thank you for this! Love my Christian Catholic faith 🙏💖💖

[@gaiblyon991]

Megyn, thank you for opening your heart and be so transparent about your crisis of faith. I deeply desire to share with you and share about the questions of your heart. Christ loves you so much that he is looking to give you his peace and truth that will make you free.

[@MovedByBeauty]

Bishop Barron is a huge gift to the Church. ❤

[@MB-vu3ow]

Megyn, Thank you with all my heart for this. ❤️

[@evelinmonterroso8723]

I loved this conversation, I loved the way Bishop Barron delivered his answers

[@robertdean741]

wow Megyn as a Catholic I applaud your bravery and sincerity. My prayer is that you will get your declaration of nullity & will commit to pray for that until you do.

[@rocketfrogg6198]

This made me cry. I feel the struggle.

[@lux-veritatis]

I went through a similar process these past few months annulling my first marriage as well. I wasn’t practicing the faith when I married and so it was a lack of form case. It was scary and difficult to put myself into someone else’s judgment and to reopen old wounds and bare myself to a faceless bureaucracy. Reflecting though, it helped bring me a lot of closure and to also understand the seriousness of these matters and how I took it all for granted previously. It’s affirmed in me a much deeper understanding of marriage moving forward and the sanctity of a union that I don’t believe I will ever forsake again. What I took for granted the first time around has been thoroughly examined through the annulment process and I thank God everyday for the opportunity to make it right in the future.

[@smithberlitz]

Thank you for having this conversation.

[@mosesmartinez4364]

GOD BLESS YOU MEGYN FOR DOING THIS

[@michaelthrone]

See my detailed response above to Cjean821.

[@calvinholt5630]

I went through the annulment process for a failed marriage that ended seven years ago. The process was hard at first but it was truly a blessing for me and my faith. Trust in the Lord!

[@rae984]

Right there with you! I walked away from catholicism , not God, when I attempted to go through the annulment process...I decided I did not need a group of MEN to review my personal business, I could go to God myself, and I CERTAINLY was not going to pay money to buy one! That wasc50vyears ago, and have never regretted it, and am now even closer to Jesus

[@sergesavard636]

Uh oh an angry feminist with daddy issues. You are now your own pope like all Protestants

[@sjh60633]

You walked away from God when you left His church. That's the truth.

[@rae984]

@sjh60633 you are soo wrong. I never walked away from Hus church, I walked away from catholiciscouldnt be closer to Him now..bedt thing I ever did, I listen to JESUS, AND THE HOLY SPIRUT, not men...the catholic church is an embarrassing mess...the pope especially. AHE dies not represent God!! You just pushed my buttons.

[@rae984]

Sorry, so irritated, I cant even type! Best you not judge me!!

[@annb9029]

Jesus started church Jesus said to Peter, "You are Rock and on this rock I will build my Church." (Matthew 16: 18) Jesus said "build," as in to create a structure. Jesus built His structure on specifically chosen human beings Peter and the apostles. Baptism John 3:5 - “Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” Matthew 28:19 - “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” Confirmation Luke 24:49 - “But stay you in the city of Jerusalem till you be endued with power from on high.” The Eucharist John 6:54 - “Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink His blood, you shall not have life in you.” Sacrament of Penance [Confession] Psalm 41:4 - “Heal, O Lord, my soul, for I have sinned against Thee.” John 20:22-23 - “And with that he breathed on them and said, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.’” Anointing of the Sick [Extrem Unction] James 5:14-15 - “Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the priests of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith shall save the sick man, and the Lord shall raise him up, and if he be in sins, they shall be forgiven him.” Matrimony Matthew 19:4-6 - “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, let no one separate.” Holy Orders Matthew 10:1 - Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness. John 20:22-23 - “And with that he breathed on them and said, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.’”

[@dongonzales7077]

The more I listen to you Megyn, the more I like and respect you. Stay with the Catholic Church

[@starbright9618]

I went thru the annulment process too. ...Bishop Barron's advice about " trust the process"...you will come out on the other side"stronger". During my "process" I too went to other denominations looking for something. I didn't find it there...there is no substitute for Holy Mother Church and the Sacraments.....you will become stronger.. . Ad Majorem Det Gloriam

[@IreneWirtenberger]

I have gone through what you are experiencing. I had a first marriage that if I remained in I would not be here today. I was in turmoil due to not knowing what to do. I was no longer able to receive absolution, receive communion without getting an annulment. I could not do that because of my three grown children. After five years of feeling lost, very wonderful caring, loving man entered my life. He invited me to attend his Lutheran Church. The moment I experienced the service which almost identical to the Catholic service. The body and blood of Christ was in the communion service. I received General Absolution which lifted the enormous burden off of my shoulders. I am now married to this wonderful man and have attended the Missouri Synod lLutheran Church ever since and am at peace in my communion with my blessed Lord. I hope this helps you to find the Peace that passes all understanding.

[@DonnaSauer]

As a canon lawyer whose husband had to go through the invalidity process (the correct terminology, rather than annulment), I understand your consternation. But as Bishop Barron pointed out, it is because the Church values and protects marriage that we have this process at all. My prayers are with you, and I commend and support you for undertaking the process. I pray you ultimately see its value, purpose, and fruitfulness.

[@VeilandArmour]

Thank you, Megyn, for your courage and vulnerability. God bless 🙏🏾

[@michellelipe4590]

I also tried other churches but ultimately I was drawn back to the Catholic church it’s not the easiest but it feels right for me. I honor and respect all our Christian brothers and sisters and love celebrating Jesus with them.

[@KnowJesusAndLive]

Great interview!! Rome sweet home as crazy as the place can be at times!

[@jdglock9114]

Megyn Stay with it. RUN THE RACE. 🙏🏻👍🏻

[@marrietvisser6195]

What a lovely honest conversation 😊

[@codynunez5246]

Fellow Catholic here praying for you Kelly. O Blessed Mother and Patriarch St Joseph pray for us!

[@bobbyrogers3084]

Bless you, you are on your faith journey. I will pray my Daily Rosary for you.

[@jodynaumann]

Megyn, I’m glad I stumbled upon this video. I am going through the process now, it’s is slightly different. I am much older than you, remarried 11 years ago, not in the Catholic Church and my husband isn’t Catholic. The past few years it’s been gnawing at me so the process began with my speaking with my Pastor. I was divorced in 1978 from my first husband, I got my annulment several years later so I was good but was not going to Church on a regular basis, not receiving Communion, not going to Confession. I was going to Mass on Sundays, hit and miss. A few years ago I started going regularly, found a Catholic Church that spoke to me. I told my Husband I wanted to see about getting married in my Church, he said he would do whatever it took. I was told that since he was married the first time to a Catholic in the Catholic Church, he would have to get an annulment. I was shocked at this but he said he would do whatever it took so he met with our Deacon, got the questions, struggled through (he had been married for 35 or so years and divorced now for 12). It was a challenge but he did it. All was submitted in January 2024 to the LA Diocese Tribunal (Catholic Lawyers). It’s definitely a process. I was told it could take up to a year to get an answer, we are hoping it is much quicker than that. I couldn’t understand why he needed an annulment, he wasn’t Catholic but nonetheless these are the rules/Canon Law. We don’t get to be Cafeteria Catholics (pick and choose the parts we agree with) if we are serious about our Faith. I have had many Catholics tell me how crazy it is and I should just receive Communion anyway but that is not me, I will go by the rules, not interested in piling on more Sins. I don’t know if he will be granted the Annulment but I’ve already decided that if not, I won’t turn my back on the Church. I am a Catholic, I will always be a Catholic and I’m grateful I was born into it and my parents raised me Catholic. I will be disappointed of course but God is in control, he knows my heart. I’ve made a lot of mistakes. Stay the course, it’s worth it. Ironically I will never be able to receive the Body of Christ, two years ago I was diagnosed with Celiac Disease, the host is wheat. It’s a no go for me. There are Gluten Free hosts but the Vatican does not recognize them so that is out. The best I can do is to receive the Precious Blood and even that I’ll have to be sure there is no Gluten in it and I’d have to be the first person to drink out of the Chalice or have my own Chalice. We will work that out if and when the Annulment is granted. So for now, I wait and pray. The ceremony is called a Convalidation Marriage. I wish you the best ❤

[@donhorn548]

Well done and hang in there. Christ is with us and teaching us through trials.