Men's Rights Advocates don't care about male victims

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Expatriarch

Күн бұрын

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@kikijewell2967 2 ай бұрын

Ug. I'm so sorry. Even male victims are victimized twice by uncaring men. That really sucks dude. I'm so sorry.

@thing_under_the_stairs 2 ай бұрын

They don't care if male victims become their victims too, as long as they can keep their misogyny. It's disgusting.

@JessiD-111 2 ай бұрын

This is so true. Those "men" use male victims to rage against women. The damage they do to both sides is so horrible. And it's all for their little egos. Sick.

@thomascarney569 2 ай бұрын

No, it's not true, it's a lie. What would be the point of being an MRA? There is NO social benefit. Most of us found the MRM because we were being affected by the issues in the first. This is an ignorant and insulting take.

@JessiD-111 2 ай бұрын

@@thomascarney569 Sadly a lot of men (not all, but a LOT) who call themselves "MRA" are just hating on women. How does that help anyone? If you fight for men's rights, you have my full support - just like he says in his video: Most women are absolutely on board to help men, especially male victims. But a lot of so called "MRA" is not about helping men. It is about taking rights from women, hating women, insulting women, degrading women and exploiting male victims for this. Tell me: Does that help anyone?

@NoxAeterna-wf4iv 2 ай бұрын

@@thomascarney569 "US"? There's no US, buddy. Play your MRA drama game somewhere else.

@zacharybosley1935 2 ай бұрын

I think that the whole "you don't care about male victims" is a really flimsy psychic defense mechanism. In order to make the world look safe, normal, just, or predictable enough to not require any change, deflecting from the problem helps to justify inaction. They get to convince themselves there's nothing to be done, because nobody's doing the right thing their way. Its the same strategy used when people talk about doing shit about racism, only to get stonewalled by the "but why do we have to focus on Those People?" Argument

@alankent 2 ай бұрын

I am a male victim. All of my family (including extended family) insists that I am lying. They do not want to admit that anyone in my family (particularly brother) is an abuser. But they also refuse to admit that he beat his wife who was in a wheel chair. Apparently it is more important to present to the world that they are wholesome, spiritual, god fearing, evangelical christians.

@AG-iu9lv 2 ай бұрын

The last 6 words told me everything I needed to know to believe you over your family. I'm so sorry you come from such a toxic crowd. Hopefully you're healing & have found good people to surround yourself with.

@JaneAustenAteMyCat 2 ай бұрын

I hope you have made your own life, separately and far away from those toxic people with your own chosen family. They say blood is thicker than water, but not when it involves abuse. I'm so sorry this happened but as someone who deconstructed their own Evangelical faith I can understand the mechanisms at play. It's disgusting

@BlauweWolken 16 сағат бұрын

@@alankent I'm so sorry to hear :(( thank you for sharing your story and I hope you are in a safer place now

@godswillm575 2 ай бұрын

An honest, open minded and not- self-serving man. One who is genuinely HONEST...... one who is not looking to manipulate the reality to his own advantage. Refreshing, and respectable. We need to protect this man. God bless you Sir!

@phastinemoon 2 ай бұрын

“I’m not doing ‘being a male victim’ right” Oof. That hit the truth right in the guts.

@vitisvinifera1590 2 ай бұрын

I just got to your channel, and I didn't know what happened to you. I'm sorry it did. I'm glad you've found healing and hope you find more

@chey7691 2 ай бұрын

And when a man who is also a victim of abuse or SA speaks up, those men who use them as an example quickly try and shut them up. Almost like they don't care about other men or anyone but themselves... So they can't come in with that high ground contrairianism and attack someones experience without being completely in the wrong. When I explain my experience and state the truth that it's bad no matter who it happens to and how often. I will get other men looking for cracks to get chance at blaming anything other than the perpetrator. Or themselves for defending the indefensible.

@maggie6152 2 ай бұрын

Good god, man. I'm sorry. I hope you have at least some support with all this.

@lilyinthewater161 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for your compassionate, intelligent and articulate discourse. Internet needs this so badly. 🙏

@jrr3418 29 күн бұрын

As a male survivor, yes. I’ve never had a single woman invalidate me. Men though..

@FullShade 2 ай бұрын

I’m so sorry for your experience. Thank you for doing what you can to make the world a better place. I hope your kindness and insight catches on 💜

@higurashikai09 2 ай бұрын

Yes!! My cousin was physically injured by his crazy ex partner who even tried to argue that he couldn't have any custody of their child because he has a pace maker. As soon as their kid was allowed to have his own lawyer and refuted her claims that my cousin beat their child, she didn't want the child any longer! She pays child support and doesn't want him at all. Yeah, men can be victims of domestic violence and other crimes as well at the hands of women, but talking about female victims doesn't erase that at all.

@helgaioannidis9365 2 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry for what you went through. I hope you feel safe now ❤

@heidithesausage 2 ай бұрын

Thank you Thank you Thank you. Why is it that the people who have never been victims of DV or SA are full of more hate & anger than actual victims? They have the victim mindset without the trauma. How they still expect empathy be shown to them, when they feel none for actual victim's. When they say women are more violent than men, men are just better at it, you know you're dealing with s whole new level of ignorance

@beardlyinteresting 2 ай бұрын

Hmm I have a sneaking suspicion you wanted to say something a little more spicy and short then that final statement. Every time I see anyone talking about female victims regardless of the perpetrators sex or gender identity, without question some guy comes along with "wElL wHaT aBoUt MaLe ViCtImS!". Well if you're so concerned about male victims why aren't you looking up stats/research/survivor stories from men and just here complaining about research/stats focusing on women instead? I'm so sorry you not only have your own stories but that your story gets downplayed and dismissed by these people who seem so hellbent on claiming they care about you. Stay strong friend and thank you for your education in this space, the more positive male role models we have the easier it will be to show how and why toxic masculinity is terrible and not that masculinity itself is toxic.

@AG-iu9lv 2 ай бұрын

It's amazing to me that they ever bring up male victims, seeing as most male victims' abusers are other men, and acknowledging such a thing would fly in the face of the cult of man.

@thekelderhouse 2 ай бұрын

I just found your channel tonight. This is the first I'm hearing of what happened to you. I'm so sorry! That's never okay. Thank you for taking on such a large and heavy topic. It's admirable - and appreciated.

@susannehuber3996 2 ай бұрын

You’re work is AMAZING ❤❤❤❤WE NEED YOU ❤❤❤❤❤

@WhichDoctor1 Ай бұрын

Back in 2018 I got out of an abusive relationship with a woman, and at the time I was still presenting as a man. I felt soo stuck, because the only advocacy I could find for “male” abuse victims was soo vial. And I didn’t what to be associated with people like that. So yeah I did feel shame and a sense of failure for “letting it happen to me”. But I couldn’t find any community to help me through that because the only people who looked like me at the time and were talking about it were not people I wanted to be associated with. Its soo hard to come to terms with things like this if you don’t have the language to articulate it, don’t have roll models of people who’ve been through it and come out the other side as someone you look up to. But anyway I went through a lot of therapy, and Ive had two more relationships with women since then that have both been wonderful and healing. I’m still with my girlfriend of 2 years now and our relationship is still incredible. And now I identify as a woman too. But it still upsets me how many men victims of dv must remain silent like I did because they couldn’t find any communities they felt comfortable joining and the only rhetoric they ever heard around this issue was vial and hateful. You can’t heal from trauma with anger and hate. It’s always going to be a part of the process, but you have to let go of it eventually to fully heal and live your life beyond then I’m soo glad to find men out there now talking about their experiences with dv with compassion and empathy and a genuine desire to help men victims.

@NeoRelic-o8p Ай бұрын

I've had tons of women minimize and hate on me when i talk about what women have done to me

@WhichDoctor1 Ай бұрын

I’m sorry the women around you are soo deep in internalised misogyny that they’d treat you that cruelly. there are lots of women who aren't like that. You deserve to be around people both women and men who will respect you and honour your pain. I hope you find them soon

@Kootenay613 6 күн бұрын

@@WhichDoctor1 Those women don't have internalised misogyny, they have externalized misandry.

@syedarizvi7290 Ай бұрын

I just want to take a moment to express how much I respect you and am filled with such admiration for you. I am so truly sorry for all the hurt you have gone through and I respect you so much for not being like how those red-pilled people want you to be. I respect you because despite all the hurt you have gone through, you have such eloquent and beautiful stances on feminism and I am so moved by it. I am sorry if my words come across as disrespectful or hurtful in anyway. I do say this sincerely that I really respect you and watch all your videos and feel empowered by them. thank you so much. God bless you.

@manifest2203 2 ай бұрын

Nicely put. Respect.

@kittyroxs 2 ай бұрын

I can not believe how youve gone about being a victim. Did you not get the handbook? 🙄🙃

@ex.patriarch 2 ай бұрын

@@kittyroxs I did not. No doubt a woman is to blame. 🫠

@ak5659 Ай бұрын

How interesting. Every male victim of DV I've ever encountered has reported zero support and sometimes worse.

@becbrown212 4 күн бұрын

@@ak5659 have you looked at the experiences of female victims? It's terrible across the board.

@turquoiseopalfruit 2 ай бұрын

Peace to you sir 🙏

@bludbought Ай бұрын

I am so sorry for what you went through. I am so sorry. I hope you are doing well.

@maggie6152 2 ай бұрын

OOOOOHHHHH SNAP what a comeback!!!!!

@Kootenay613 6 күн бұрын

The National Social Survey has a module on victimization, that includes questions on domestic violence. One of the questions asks why domestic violence victims don't go to the police. Male victims are far more likely than female victims to report that they believed their story would not be believed or that they would even be blamed for the abuse they suffered, so men who say "what about men" are not being unreasonable. We should ask "what about men" and keep asking it until men get treated equally to women.