Hacking Windows Recall To See Everything

[@1618yt]

Microsoft will screenshot me switching to linux

[@Axodus]

Microsoft: Weird, we stopped getting telemetry from this device after this final screenshot..

[@Sprinkles-r5y]

​@@Axodusthey still won't draw the logical conclusion 🤦‍♀️

[@kaaf9840]

Based 🗿

[@gustavojoaquin_arch]

​@PiplupPlusRetarded leftist

[@Xathian]

Truly the vegans of operating systems

[@Snollygoster-]

Each screenshot is about ~100kb, it says every 5 seconds it takes a screen shot. Use your computer for roughly 8 hours a day, you're gonna have ~150gb of log data just nesting on your drive. What's the obvious next step? "Oh it seems your recall history is taking up quite a bit of space, would you like us to host it on our cloud?"

[@mechaniccat7682]

oh my god. you're right.

[@alextouth6524]

That or microsoft making their own data drives

[@link_team3855]

huh i thought the database was kinda small (like 10 mb after some time of use) then again thats the database not the pics

[@Anonymous______________]

Lol like they are going to actually ask for your permission.

[@casualweekday-ytshadowbang2469]

OR, first issue with the computer, the wife goes to the tech shop - the cheapest one, given the current economy - and there go the family savings, IDs, assets, the kids school name, etc.

[@cal2127]

windows is turning into more malware than actual malware

[@UndercoverDog]

Imagine at some point Windows Defender will just flag Windows itself and self delete

[@anonemoose102]

Still gonna use it to gaming. Got no time to switch to Linux

[@sam3317]

@@anonemoose102 hey there fastman, slow down and install Debian.

[@denis2381]

Rudolph Bitler and the windmill of friendship ❤​@@anonemoose102

[@RanEncounter]

​@@anonemoose102 I don't have one game in my steam library that does not work perfect or even better on linux than on windows. But I don't play games that have other than steam drm. I guess if you play games with drm the experience is different.

[@ChompDude]

I'm so exhausted with tech companies. Don't want Bixby. Don't want Cortana. Don't want Co-Pilot. Don't want Recall. Don't want a "smart" TV. Give me a phone, OS, TV, etc. that just works and piss off.

[@theConcernedWyvern]

Windows caused huge issues with my tablet and I thought it was broken, but I just had to turn off Ink. The game mode also caused a bunch of issues with games, which I also turned off. I turn off more of Windows than I actually use. I would've switched to Linux already if all my Windows programs worked on it without a huge headache and I didn't have to worry about wrestling with anti-cheat to play a game I bought.

[@adrenokr]

2010: there's malware in your operating system. 2024: there's is operating system in your malware.

[@UniqueHandle977]

​@alexthemovie wow aren't you so creative

[@Joniyah444]

I’m waiting for the stupid Reddit sheep to chime in and argue with truth.

[@HksjJkdkd]

​@alexthemovie go on make one.

[@bumblebeegamerreal]

You know its so bad, when it makes even Windows 10 way better by a longshot. An OS that has far less spyware than its reskin

[@blackguard5883]

I was ready to quit at 7, but... Don't judge if at all possible; I'm a PC gamer. I'm on 10, and refuse to go to 11 or higher. I *HAVE* to learn enough command prompts to set up Linux on my next system. To quote my favorite educated miscreant: "Why, yes... My hand shall be forced."

[@someyetiwithinternetaccess1253]

​@@blackguard5883 get Linux mint, you won't need commands for everyday use

[@mathias6369]

@@blackguard5883 there is a youtuber who goes by someordinarygamers who made a tutorial on linux mint, im in a similar situation to you and it seemed rather easy to me (i havent done it yet myself) the video is called how to switch to linux for beginners

[@USSMariner]

You literally don't ​@@blackguard5883 . Most Linux distros don't require any cli these days.

[@lmnk]

Yeah lol... never though I'd say that but... looking back from today, Windows 10 (especially the LTS releases) was pretty good - worse than 7 but not THAT worse...

[@17th_Colossus]

Microsoft showing McAfee how spyware is really done.

[@musicalneptunian]

Nortons has entered the chat...

[@Jarhed1964]

@@musicalneptunian 🤣

[@WashingtonFernandes]

Respect Mr. MacAfee name's, the drug lord king.

[@codecaine]

[@BillAnt]

AVG will flag and disable the Total Recall malware. hehe

[@rlenclub]

I work in the U.S. military as an IT technician. I remember discussing with my supervisor the possibility of the military switching over to Linux for their client systems. At the time, it seemed completely implausible. Now it looks inevitable.

[@akin242002]

German government has decided to go all in on Linux.

[@musicalneptunian]

Linux follows the first basic rule of security: if you don't need it you remove it.

[@RoshiGaming]

the govt should make their own branch of debian/arch and hire a horde of programmers

[@Deminese2]

I work in Medical IT. There is no shot our enterprise security department can allow this. I can't imagine the possible HIPPA violations this could cause.

[@azca.]

You all can relax. The military has a special version of Windows without the bloatware and telemetry

[@starzainia]

Windows 11: The world's best Linux advertisement

[@wwjccsd]

Except your average PC user can’t be bothered for Linux, especially when a lot of apps don’t even run on it

[@laughingalien]

@@wwjccsd 2024 will definitely be the year of the Linux desktop. 2025 will definitely be the year of the Linux desktop. 2026 will definitely be the year of the Linux desktop. 2027 will definitely be the year of the Linux desktop. 2028 will definitely be the year of the Linux desktop. 2029 will definitely be the year of the Linux desktop. 2030 will definitely be the year of the Linux desktop. XZ Utils Backdoor version 2 spreads throughout all Linux installations... 2040 will definitely be the year of the Linux desktop. 2041 will definitely be the year of the Linux desktop.

[@starzainia]

​@@wwjccsdwell bud, I definitely ain't average that's for sure

[@Tsuenciaga]

What apps dont run on it? ​@@wwjccsd

[@abbywindy]

God yes. I finally made the jump (though still have to dual boot for a few specific engineering school programs.) I've been having a blast tinkering. I'm able to play pretty much all of my steam library and I'd say for people like me Linux is perfect even if I'm not a software engineer, the customisable nature of it feels fresh as compared to Windows 11.

[@readyplayer2197]

„Saying you don’t need privacy because you have nothing to hide, is like saying you don’t need freedom of speech because you have nothing to say“

[@chpsilva]

Or that you don't need to close the door while using the toilet

[@magister.mortran]

Nothing to hide, not even your passwords and credit card data and PIN. 😂This statement is so ridiculous.

[@raphaeltoast]

"You don't need *any* freedom of speech because you don't have anything *bad* to say" is a better comparison IMO

[@olexy.skrypnik]

Privacy and someone using your data to make money on you is not the same thing. People don't realize that corporations need the data to influence their decisions and even life choices.

[@zephyfoxy]

Or "you don't need a lawyer if you're not guilty"

[@msmith2961]

Domestic abusers are gonna love trawling through their victim's PC history without even having to make the effort to install a keylogger.

[@JosephAlnasl]

Then it's the "ab used's" fault for even using win11 or allowing any of that in the first place. Smarter people will always have advantage, so better become the smarter one.

[@lilypad429]

​@@JosephAlnaslUnless you have someone hold a gun besides your head, that's probably right

[@OffensiveAtheist]

Remind me of how many Police Officers are Domestic Abusers...

[@nehemiahjuan950]

Domestic abusers aren't computer savvy enough to run a script

[@volvodude101]

@@nehemiahjuan950 never underestimate a woman who wants to ruin s man's life

[@LecheConGrumos]

Red star OS needs to step up their game if they want to compete with Microsoft's spyware

[@Sprinkles-r5y]

Where do you think MS learnt this SS technique of recall?!

[@musicalneptunian]

Launch Tae Kwo Dong OS 3,2,1...

[@AlyphRat]

Weirdly enough, Red Star OS does the same thing recall does. Prophetic.

[@kylekrasilikovs]

@@Sprinkles-r5y No surveillance under the 3rd Reich, you're thinking of cringe USA and Soviet Republic

[@mozzeralleh]

​@alexthemovieto he honest, you are

[@ojaskumar521]

Mental Outlaw hacks local poor operating system company

[@freedomgoddess]

very micro and very soft

[@DogDooWinner]

I'm sure to the ire of Bill Gates himself. Very definitely to the massive displeasure of the letter agencies.

[@howisthis8849]

macrohard

[@link99912]

Running a python script to collate unencrypted local data isn't really "hacking"... not anymore than me running a python script to rename and move all the images in my screenshots folder, for example.

[@alexxx4434]

More like local BASIC language interpreter company.

[@xXEnigmaXx001]

I hope that the backlash against this is so huge that Microsoft retracts this feature all together. The fact that it logs everything... LITERALLY EVERYTHING... Just is absurd...

[@dingokidneys]

Oh I hope they don't retract it. It's just what is needed to jolt people out of their complaisance enough to actually move to a different OS. Maybe even companies and governments will recognise the massive risk and switch to something safer and more efficient.

[@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755]

@@dingokidneys Hell nah man, more people are sweeping it under the rug than they are actually thinking about side effects. It's also 100% going to be fine in the states as they'll just pay a fine if they at all get charged with something. Our officials can barely use a calculator, much less know the importance of something like this lol. EU is actively against it though, and there's talks of it getting an outright ban (like the rest of the shitware has).

[@CoBud91]

Idk what they have more of between money or monolpy but they will never change anything concerning what's shown in this video

[@hodolski]

@@dingokidneys Jokes on you, South Korean gov still uses XP and 7.

[@atsizbalik]

@@dingokidneys back in 2000s Turkish government was using Pardus (a linux distro made by Turkey) which was so good back then, now they don't since Pardus project fell off

[@ManaNaito]

The gooner's worst nightmare. If I was a hacker I would totally use this for blackmail.

[@Freddisred]

Your Windows Anti-Goon License Is About To Expire.

[@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755]

the 20 people still playing yandere simulator are absolutely shook right now

[@VorynDagoth]

Jokes on you. They all have a humiliation kink

[@CL-fg5ne]

R/gooncave would burn to the ground

[@WhiteSharkfsul]

The only good thing

[@omarmagdy1075]

At this point Windows Defender should protect us from Microsoft more than hackers

[@Lykkos29]

embrace linux, and if some windows software is needed, use wine with bottles

[@smallcube-zn2mm]

@@Lykkos29 nice naming

[@Lykkos29]

@@smallcube-zn2mm wine and bottles are literally the name of those software, sounds like I'm joking haah, but for real those are the names

[@LucasImpulse]

the wine emulator

[@atsizbalik]

@@Lykkos29 Animate doesn't work with wine

[@Microtonal_Cats]

Microsoft pre-hacks you and wraps it all up with a bow for the bad buys.

[@bearwolffish]

Pretty much, used to think as time went on best practices would remove the lower hanging fruit, but apparently it is the reverse in practice. Companies realise the majority will give up security for convenience, and that it's much harder to sell people on a seat belt than a new ecu mapping, especially if the ecu upgrade comes with a waver to scrape and sell all your data.

[@amygdalios]

wonder why the vast majority of viruses are targeting windows computers

[@yurisich]

Linux is a self-owned operating system. Windows 11 with Recall is a self-pwned operating system.

[@Person01234]

@@bearwolffish It's not even convenience at this point. People still use windows because of a stubborn fear of doing anything differently. I was pretty much the same until all this recall stuff came out and that was the straw that broke the camels back. Been using Mint on my new laptop and so far, for me as a normal ass user who doesn't "need" (though in many cases again this "need" is actually just a refusal to learn new tools) any specific and particular software, it's been basically superior to windows in every single way.

[@teresashinkansen9402]

A warped gift on the porch of the Gov't who would have thought bad guys would take it first?

[@AriaLavinde]

Video: *demonstrates one of the grave dangers of entrusting an unencrypted AI assistant tool* KZbin: *shows an ad about a school that assists people with the help of AI for your development* Yes, sounds about right.

[@Gnidel]

AI is like a hammer - you can use it to build a house or to get "involuntary access" into someone's head.

[@linuxguy1199]

You actually see ads? Huh, I haven't seen any for the last 5 years!

[@terry2295]

The frick we’re using AI to educate nowadays? Just recently tried AI with a math problem from school but I the AI calculated it wrong. It wasn’t even a difficult problem.

[@TheYahmez]

@@terry2295 No, we're using education to AI.. Paying them to assimilate us; step 1: profit, step 2: profit, step 3: profit, step 4: cake (&death)

[@littlefoot..]

I got an ad of Chrome saying that it's the safest browser, and it'll protect you from scammers. 😂

[@jasonshere]

This is what I've been telling others since the Recall announcement; even IF Windows wasn't going to use Recall maliciously, it just wraps everything in a neat little package for other malicious actors to access.

[@R3_dacted0]

Can we please somehow convince some big name news outlet to run a story on this? It's actually ridiculous how little people seem to care about it

[@Tsuenciaga]

Listen, buddy, you can't save the sheep, stop trying.

[@IndiIngle]

Microsoft: Keep your PC safe with Windows Defender! Also Microsoft: Creats the biggest honeypot network known to man

[@SidShakal]

overwhelm the baddies with honey so they get bogged down in it. brilliant! ☝️😀💡

[@thecatofall]

The funny thing is that the bad people will never get effected by this change there not going to use this "feature" but people will be looking for people with recall

[@lcoh]

At first i was hesitant to switch to linux completely. Very nice from MS to give me the strength i needed.

[@nottomclancy2439]

Yes, same here. I was on and off of Linux for years, but now? HA!

[@BrianJRichards]

Same, after watching a few videos on this ‘feature’ I jumped ship about a week ago and have no plans to go back

[@GoonyMclinux]

I just swapped out 100%, all the games I like work, no reason to use spyboi 11 anymore.

[@PopCapMusicTrending]

bold of you to assume your pc would run it.

[@GoonyMclinux]

@@PopCapMusicTrending Linux ran fine on the last 20 pc's I installed it on, This isn't 1998.

[@YevgeniyBoreesov]

What baffles me most is that Recall is not even a killer feature. The mechanisms to cope with acute amnesia already exist and have been around for a long time in every OS. If we forgot what documents we’ve been working on, we can use file search, since files have “created”, “modified”, and “accessed” dates on them. If we forgot where we’ve been on the internet, we can fire up browser history. So we aren’t getting any additional value by having such a resource-intensive redundant history-saving mechanism.

[@akin242002]

Exactly! It's not hard to search for files with specific names. The Recall software was not asked for at all.

[@agalerex]

It's (potentially) worse than that. Where are those screenshots saved? To your RAM? Or, the same storage device windows is installed on? If that device just happens to be a SSD, then, that will shorten it's life even more than it would with previous versions of windows.

[@todayonthebench]

Yes, there is ample ways to track one's own history through trivial means. The problem is that instead of MS educating their users on how to use existing tools, they rather remake the wheel yet again for the n-th time, adding onto the growing pile of stupidity that they are building and asking their users to understand. And when users obviously don't understand this, since they never get any real practical information about it, MS goes on to make yet one more feature for the same thing again.... The control panel is a great example of this. Though, to a bit I can "understand" consolidating all file and web search history into 1 place, even if it is fairly stupid in practice... Though, at least it isn't as abhorrently bad as local search also searching the web, imagine how much data leaks out of organizations due to this alone, telling search engines about the name or potential content of potential files spills a lot of information about what happens inside an organization, and I guess Bing/MS could make some real use out of that information...

[@TheYahmez]

It's all metric & training data for companies to fire all their office employees.

[@TheYahmez]

The customer is corporations not humans.

[@DrathVader]

The thing is that even if you disable it in settings, its easy enough for a hacker to enable it through registry. Hell, it will probably automatically enable itself after an update.

[@lazymass]

Well, if you are already hacked, this really doesn't matter, malware can record you, they don't need recall for that at all..

[@1337penguinman]

You're assuming the enable/disable switch will actually do anything. "Oh, it's still running after you disabled it? Must be a bug. We'll fix it in the next patch."

[@blackneos940]

Yeh. It's shitty. I wanna set up a Windows 11 VM and see just how deep the Windows Recall rabbit hole goes.

[@getfucked3559]

Welcome to modern windows, you're not allowed to access files on your computer, end processes that scan and send your data or disable anything through registry/services/group policies

[@armorhide406]

And then they'll remove the option for you to disable it altogether

[@rijaja]

most people will use it, not because they don't care about privacy, but because us linux users just largely underestimate the number of people who won't even open the settings once in their life

[@r4in_o202]

or they will open it to change the wallpaper or something. hate to admit it but i used to be exactly like that, i even accepted all cookies in websites, KNOWING that it collects your data. 😶😶😶

[@theConcernedWyvern]

A lot of people dont think about their OS. Honestly, they shouldn't have to think about it this much. People shouldn't have to be worried about a basic tool like this stealing data and farming it's customers. Most people won't even know it exists unless they keep up with this stuff, and that's terrifying to me. I shouldn't have to try and explain to my family that they shouldn't update to Windows 11 because it makes them a massive target for hackers. This just should not be an issue for a damn operating system.

[@FranoGames]

the fact that the settings option is under privacy & security is just hilarious

[@FelipeV3444]

At least they are self aware I guess?

[@atsizbalik]

oh yeah man, so "private"

[@jason_a_smith_gb]

Now you mention it, yes it is.

[@hherpdderp]

Imagine you turn it off but malware turns it back on 😂

[@BrianJRichards]

Or how about when Windows updates and ‘resets’ your permissions and settings with this as they have before…

[@justinpettit8282]

​@@BrianJRichardsdude I literally fought windows defender for a year trying to disable it so it would stop and eating my CPU and Ram, the thing that really pisses me off is when I would get a "Error: Access Denied" on my own fucking laptop. Yesterday after all the trials and tribulations I managed to complete disabled and delete it off my computer and it literally boots within seconds no problems whatsoever. I don't download sketchy shit and I don't use chromium so I don't need windows stupid defender.

[@calebmenker988]

Yup, I had uninstalled Edge because it's ass and yesterday I booted up my PC only to be greeted with edge saying it had been updated to the latest version, along with a request to be made the default browser

[@escapetherace1943]

@@justinpettit8282 wow, try linux maybe

[@tobyzilla]

​@@calebmenker988 definitely doesn't sound suspicious at all

[@nicolasportela5513]

If you care so little about privacy that you're ok with recall, you might as well install cameras in your house and livestream your life for the world to see.

[@lukaogadze5071]

normies will do anything. it's too complex for them to understand tech stuff.

[@Raphy_Afk]

A survey revealed that a huge part of gen z would be OK with it to decrease house violence

[@marijn17s]

@@Raphy_Afk that's mental

[@natheyshiro4119]

Ring camera be like

[@tablettablete186]

"At least, it will keep me safe" 😇 - Some user

[@Zortec]

But can it Screenshot Crysis???

[@disinformatic861]

"recall data is stored locally on your computer" "until it isn't"

[@Bodwaizer]

"I Am Altering the Deal, Pray I Don’t Alter It Any Further."

[@rch5395]

Nsa got rock hard when Microsoft revealed this.

[@shrunkensimon]

Who do you think came up with idea - it's them or one of the other 3 letters. MicroShiat has always been a front for the MIC. They are just dropping the pretence; guess they think enough % of the public are conditioned well enough now.

[@FUCKTHEBBC]

They all work together 😂😂😂😂

[@nathanl2966]

@@shrunkensimon Well said, well said.

[@musicalneptunian]

Microsoft thanked the NSA with a gift of 1000000 condoms.

[@duckeggcarbonara]

Yeah basically

[@Arnie97]

I'M ACTUALLY MOVING TO LINUX, this is literally the final nail in the coffin, i was like yeah you can still use windows 11 with tweaks but this it!

[@avisprimey]

Great! I hope you enjoy your stay. We have penguins

[@another-niko-pfp-holder]

HECK YEAH WELCOME TO OUR CULT

[@Junnnya]

welcome to cool people club

[@jollyswagman4714]

Don't overthink it! Hop on a popular distro like Fedora, Mint, or Pop! and just go for it. I moved to Linux a few months ago and it was the best choice I've made in years.

[@96ethanh]

Yay!!

[@zxxtlz]

Already got hacked, and it's not even fully rolled out

[@OlviMasta77]

source?

[@Noneofyourbusiness2000]

Let's not pretend like he is doing this on a production ready version of recall. All Microsoft has to do is perform the trivial task of encryption.

[@zack49]

not like there won't be a different way to hack it, and people will be looking

[@fus132]

@@OlviMasta77 He meant figuratively, it didn't take much to decompile copilot data as you can see, GitHub repo's in the description.

[@w花b]

​@@Noneofyourbusiness2000I mean sure but every new "module" to "feature" they add is a new vulnerability in itself. It's not realistic to audit tens of millions of lines of code so adding more workload is even worse, especially something that can operate on a network which increases the attack surface. I know this also goes for Linux distros which is just as bad but at least I can stay delusional by thinking that anyone can fix the code.

[@cooltaylor1015]

This sounds like when Internet Explorer 5 kept a permanent list of websites you'd visited invisible to the user. Except worse and more invasive. Don't let your windows computers onto the internet, people

[@TheFinagle]

"You should not trust Microsoft to put software in your computer." That is a complete and true statement right there.

[@Sprinkleshitz]

i shed a tear for those unwillingly subjected to windows 11

[@amygdalios]

I can't believe I burned my old motherboard's bios to "upgrade" to windows 11. A software update that costed me 200 euros. after that my windows pc couldn't even handle basic tasks. photoshop would crash constantly, blender was slow, and COUNTLESS blue screens. almost 3 months ago I pulled the trigger and switched to a Mac. Couldn't be happier

[@xynium.]

​@@amygdaliosi never got a single blue screen on windows 10, yet i got 7 blue screens across 2 different devices all relating to "memory" and "storage". i also got locked out of windows 11 because their sign in page glitched out and didn't show the the sign in. only reason i haven't switched to linux or macOS yet is because two games i play with friends don't work on linux at all (wine and vm is blocked by byfron/hyperion and i heard epic games doesn't work on linux), and macOS is too expensive for how broke i am

[@xynium.]

i swear to god windows 11 should be called windows bug edition and instead of fixing stuff, they add pointless malware-like features

[@withmygoodeyeclosed]

W11 24H2 LTSC IoT just came out and doesn't have any of this crap and most likely never will since it's designed to run IoT applications, and it can be activated with MAS. It'll be valid until at least 2034, it's pretty much barebones W11, it doesn't even have the store, but you can add whatever you want which is how it SHOULD be. I keep it around on a separate partition in case need Windows for something until I can be done with it 100%.

[@jazzylev]

my 2019 laptop running windows 10 is never getting updated, but the laptop i bought a year ago came with 11 so unfortunately i have to use it

[@AaronALAI]

It will happen mark my words, recall might keep everything "local and encrypted" but none of that stops recall from contacting Microsoft or police/FBI if it THINKS you are committing a crime. I guarantee this will happen.

[@heinzerbrew]

yep, surprised no one mentions this. I haven't heard microsoft make any promises that it wouldn't report crimes to the police.

[@HatTrex]

Microsoft local encryption is a joke, any process with execution privilege (even non admin) can access the encryption functions api and decrypt everything on the target machine, it's the sole reason Chromium infostealer exist and have been existing for the last 15 years

[@juanignaciocarrano860]

Before, malware/spyware had to run for a few hours/days to collect your data. With recall, the data is already there and the spyware only needs to run for a couple minutes, then it can uninstall itself and you never know you were spied on. The window for detection is tremendously narrowed.

[@rot_studios]

huh... you know you make a good point. Hadn't even realized this.

[@THEPOWER99FM]

The other problem is windows recall doesn’t hide bank account information when it screen shots it. That also a huge problem.

[@Afraaz]

0:50 a lot of people do care. But the mountain of inconvenience of switching to an alternative is growing every single day. It's this very attitude that allows Microsoft to get away with stuff like this because the average user, like me, isn't looking to join a whole community or memorize terminal commands just to download steam only to find out most of the games can't be played without a ton of configuration. Normies don't have a "Windows community" it's just the OS they use. The moment someone can create a Linux distro that people can just use and they never have to see the word "sudo" even once, guarantee they take over and the entire industry changes. But so many Linux users aren't just users, they dedicate enough brain power to it that it's like a part time job and it becomes a community of like-minded people cause that's the beauty of a high barrier to entry hobby. I'm not trying to say that the normies are in the right but I'm saying this way of thinking like comparing the normies to cattle in factory farming does nothing to bring people together and actually serves to drive people apart. At the end of the day it's a matter of convenience, I'm sure there's things you do that you consider not worth it even though it's less secure. The most secure people would just never ever use technology to begin with but eventually you gotta compromise somewhere. The issue is that it's getting more and more inconvenient to switch away from windows as time goes on, not less convenient.

[@jackMeought-fr8vl]

You're right. Linux chads need to realize normies can't open the terminal and run anything.

[@wasabi333]

Yeah, Linux fucking sucks for desktop

[@tobyzilla]

​@@jackMeought-fr8vl dude Linux isn't just a terminal it also functions like a normal computer operating system and Linux isn't just one os thare is a long list of Linux distos out there like Linux mint and arch Linux

[@バスネット咲希]

Bruh...you can use beginner focused distros like mint. Its fine if you dont want to rice your PC. Also, you can get away without typing sudo like stuff, if you gotta update your distro. It is understandable that certain professional softwares aren't available. Same for games as well. However, the "sudo" argument is nonsense. I am certainly getting away without doing any sudo related stuff.

[@APNetworX]

Linux is definitely terminal focused, but it is not as hard as you outline it to be. There are many distros that are beginner friendly, you just have to have the patience to learn something new

[@dontuo]

Adobe recently changed their license agreement and adobe can now use your photos without your agreement

[@CODE_Abyss]

Never use Cloud for it. Only save your files locally.

[@gingersolacemusic7590]

Imagine buying a license for Adobe products

[@xynium.]

​@@gingersolacemusic7590i pirated ae

[@VioletRM]

GIMP chads cannot stop winning

[@princemegahit]

@@gingersolacemusic7590 Imagine editing a lot of "duck" photos with Adobe's Software 🤫

[@tfksworldoflinux]

The Free as in Freedom on Linux just got a whole new meaning. That footage of the cow carousel is probably the best visualization on how M$ sees its user base.

[@thegodofalldragons]

They're definitely testing the waters for scraping data to give to advertisers, because otherwise this is a completely superfluous feature that provides nearly zero value to a real user.

[@borisvaiser]

Law enforcement, not advertisers.

[@rucker69]

@@borisvaiser both

[@gingersolacemusic7590]

​@@borisvaiserAbsolutely both

[@FelipeV3444]

Law enforcement doesn't pay their bills

[@user-om3xz2fi8p]

Found the idiot ​@@FelipeV3444

[@Lord-Sméagol]

"Assuming that people are still able to compromise the PCs" No need to assume; This is Microsoft and Windows!

[@codygranrud6212]

This is some dystopian foreshadowing Microsoft.

[@cyberbillp]

I switched to Linux Mint because of this. Never been happier. Everything just works. Games included.

[@teaboy301]

Any game with harsh anti cheats wont work though

[@avisprimey]

@@teaboy301 Yeah, but if you're okay with rootkit-type anticheats, then you probably don't have an issue with Windows Recall, either

[@notaboutit3565]

@@teaboy301that’s why I don’t play those games. Is a game really worth that to you?

[@klop516]

@@teaboy301 Can play this games with Nvida GeForce now.

[@cyberbillp]

@@teaboy301 Except they do. I just got done playing Gray Zone, Insurgency Sandstorm and World War Z, all have Anti-Cheat.

[@federalist46]

I moved to Linux several years ago, just as they stopped supporting Windows 7, have no regrets and do not miss any of the bloated "features" of MS Spyware.

[@WreeperXD]

what distro do you use?

[@ikytsu7822]

i moved few months ago, since i saw windows 11

[@MrQuay03]

Manjaro, EndeavorOS, Mint, PopOS Zorin, *ubuntu, Fedora, Debian. They are pretty much all good

[@wasabi333]

Good luck if you make music or something like that professionally

[@AnOriginalYouTuber]

I introduced a friend to linux for running game servers. He was amazed Minecraft ran on only 1 core and 4 gb of ram. He wants all his VMs to run linux now.

[@SirWuffleton]

Laughing like a gremlin because I facepalmed right as you played that clip - as a Windows/Linux admin, this doesn't surprise me in the least. I actively dread having to start from the ground up to defang Windows 11 with its own GPO and regkeys via GPP so that we're not actively deploying a steaming dumpster fire to everyone (it's bad enough that home dirs are on OneDrive...)

[@TheyCallMeIce]

Windows 11's home directories are WHAT No, no, like, seriously. As someone who hasn't used Windows in years, is Microsoft really uploading your whole home dir to OneDrive?? Most file exfiltrator malwares don't even do that

Yes you can deactivate telemetry with GPO (in Enterprise and Education) and you don't need to use OneDrive for the library directories.

[@SimpMcSimpy]

I have to use Win laptop at my work. First thing I did when I got a laptop was disabling OneDrive. To my surprise later on I learned even if you remove bloody thing there is some background service still alive, pushing all Document/Desktop etc. files to the cloud. At this point Microsoft should just make Windows fully run on Azure.

[@akin242002]

​@@SimpMcSimpy At work, your IT department sets requirements to push your info to the cloud to backup your info. In case you upgrade your laptop, you can get the same documents/files with little drop off (you will have to reinstall apps). This is why I encourage people have a separate non-work desktop or laptop 💻 . It scary to hear about 6 figure income employees never invested in their own home setup.

[@hugofontes5708]

​@@TheyCallMeIceyeah, everything goes there by default. And basic storage is tiny, then eventually non-tech people get messages saying they are out of storage and need to rent more, guess what happens

[@link29911]

This is the best idea I've ever seen to get the quickest class action lawsuit

[@KingSvenDeluxe]

Is there anything stopping you from _modifying_ the data? That could be abused for blackmail, framing someone, etc...

[@LionessOfLahore]

Just about started watching, but in any case, the biggest takeaway - shift to Linux and abandon Windows if you deeply care about privacy

[@leoncioferreira570]

Well if you deeply care about privacy, you would have jumped ship long ago

[@bulletflight]

@@leoncioferreira570 The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.

[@TheBigLou13]

Not only privacy. Security, safety and by now even performance as well! Most games run faster on Linux than on windows, thanks to Valve. And you don't give up your control about your very own stuff.

[@senatrius1968]

@@TheBigLou13 To be fair *most* games still don't run on linux at all, let alone faster (I suppose you can use wine or something, but that's not reliable to say the least), even with efforts and advancements valve has made. But not being able to play some video games is worth the trade off of not having native malware preinstalled on my machine. At least to me it is.

[@Itsgone99]

What do y'all do with this iron curtain of privacy anyway? I've done some risque stuff on my bare IP and it's becoming obvious the privacy industry is an inflated issue propagated by scammers and other cyber criminals who need normie scapegoats to blend in with... Privacy is the new tool for division and conquest. If you cannot see that, then surely you must be blind!

[@zer0bitz]

I have used Windows my whole life, but month back I fully switched to Linux. Only regret I have is why I didnt do it earlier.

[@erk_viewer]

Yes! I'm a Linux user for a week and it was super ez to switch. Linux has rised to the level of usability as windows and the only things you loose is gaming (not on steam) and some professional programs Linux is better than windows not limiting you from doing things windows won't let you do like that crap microsoft edge uninstall and their services.

[@kipchickensout]

i tried some distros but i guess i gotta configure them more because of things windows comes with (e.g. features, shortcuts) that didn't exist out of the box on the linux distros I've tried :/ also there's some tiny, niche, obscure old programs that I run on windows - would wine be enough? just some fears for me but i get more and more eager to do the switch

[@23Butanedione]

​@@kipchickensouthonestly just stick with windows, they are going to implement this anyway and your change of OS isn't going to deter them. Why make your life more complicated?

[@nickcoul699]

​@@kipchickensoutDon't listen to the bootlicker. Run dual boot instead. Everyday usage you use Linux, if you need the special software you boot up windows.

[@Yolakx]

@@erk_viewer yeah I miss some games :')

[@Tubeytime]

Jumped to Mint this year and I'm learning a lot, spending more time on that pc than my win7 machine lately!

[@Person01234]

Switched to Mint a week or two ago and it's been lovely, it's much nicer to use than windows 10.

[@MichaelUrocyon]

Windows 10 sunsets next year, think that'll be the time I finally learn linux.

[@TheAechBomb]

learn it now so you'll already know it when you need it

[@YISTECH]

try it out NOW. Get your workflow up and running first. Try everything out.

[@LethalBubbles]

so this is whyjWindows 11 installs itself like a trojan

[@JodyBruchon]

*Setting up Microsoft Recall is basically surprise starting an OnlyFans.*

[@fus132]

Ah, the Elon Musk manoeuvre

[@OffensiveAtheist]

OnlyFans doesn't let you search "passwords" between time and date

[@Huntsman6791]

Bro I literally built a "recall" type program for Windows like a year ago. It took a screenshot every ten seconds at 1080p, it deleted ones that were less than a specific size and then it deleted them after they were a specific age. I had no security set up for it, but I think I would trust it more than Microsoft's.

[@ZphyZphyer]

​@UTTPNINTENDOWARRIOR this was actually funny

[@Makinri]

@Proclesty My brother in Christ I get it

[@jerzyczajaszwajcer]

this is mindbogling and only enterprise will install it to spy on employees but when they will get hacked by hackers using employees passwords they gonna retract

[@ProfestionalCrayonEater]

no one wants to live in a constant surveillance state

[@shinigamiauthor]

Imagine being okay with paying over 100 usd for the privilege to be served ads and spyware/malware. Now imagine over 90% of computer users are in fact okay with it.

[@backpacklv4]

I legitimately cannot wrap my head around HOW some people are okay with this. I've spoken to many people about this already and SO VERY FEW of them see it as an issue, even after trying to explain why it is wrong.

[@wh0_am_152]

I've grown up on Windows. I used 95, 98, and a major part of my life on XP a year or so of Vista here a year or three of 7 there. I remember everyone going crazy about 10, I built my first computer for 10 I have been on 10 since 2018. Once I saw Microsoft hold your data hostage by tying it to an account an encrypting with a tpm, as well as all other spyware, I decided I was never going to 11.... Now I know for a fact that my days with Windows will soon vanish with 10, it's going to be hard, really hard, I have spent the last 6 years learning the ins and outs of 10, setting up a nas, a minecraft server, a palworld server, and many other things.... It's going to be pain going to linux. But 11 is unbearable. By golly Microsoft, what Orwellian world are you trying to build?

[@musicalneptunian]

Linux mint is the easiest way! Maybe Pop OS if you need a gaming distro.

[@dingokidneys]

Moving to a new OS is rather like moving to a new country and learning to drive on the other side of the road. You basically know where everything is and how it works but things don't fall to hand quite as easily and it can be a bit scary at times. However, you quickly get used to it because the fundamental concepts remain the same.

[@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755]

@@dingokidneys I learned pretty quickly by using a lot of the video guides people have on here, as well as scanning through the linux mint forums. Basically in 2 days i went from lifelong windows user to using mint. Swapped my dads laptop over to cinnamon mint, he's in his mid 60's and he's doing just fine, i taught him how to use the update manager and he's been enjoying it this last month.

[@darkgenix]

Linux came a long way. It's not hard to learn at all. Terminal commands like DOS. So may flavors. Mint, Arch, MX, Kali, Endeavours, Ubuntu and the list goes on and on.

[@stingfiretube]

The window has grown into a door wide open

[@dingokidneys]

Why did this comment make me think of Goatse? "Come and get it boys!"

[@theyellowarchitect4504]

door? More like a gate. A bill gate.

[@pompomaddons]

Redline Stealer: Now powered by Windows Recall!

[@freedomzvision]

Microsoft is setting itself up for liability suites - fireworks and beefy lawsuits. Total Madness.

[@shirayukinobunaga9424]

Microsoft is gonna make the FTX Lawsuit seem like chump change in comparison

[@deffdepth824]

For new or future Linux users, avoid niche distros (or flavors) of Linux. Pick something with a lot of support like ubuntu first. It will provide a much better user experience while you learn.

[@musicalneptunian]

Mint!

[@igorthelight]

Mint or Pop_OS and definitely not Ubuntu ;-)

[@raphaeltoast]

Debian is good too. Ubuntu, while definitely one of the most usable distros, has some privacy issues of its own I believe

[@Neon-ws8er]

its such a wasteful process too, its just a glorified history tab.

[@sasch2307]

Right? I m still looking for the new -useful- featuress in this 24H2 release. That image generation in paint, yeah, cool. But few people actually use paint on a daily basis. Recall? Okay, no.The 2 times per month this feature would actually be useful I would much rather trade for an Excel or Word that does not lag or crash on a regular basis.

[@Sammysapphira]

"Being able to ai search complicated queries to find contexts in files is just a glorified history tab" You people are so clueless it hurts.

[@scientificthesis]

@@Sammysapphira It really is though. It is a glorified history tab for your windows activity instead of your browser activity, just much less useful.

[@sasch2307]

@@scientificthesis Phones even have image queries. I dont see the proclaimed innovation or „AI“. Most is done by OCR-scanning (files). The wirst thing about this is the unencrypted storage of the snapshots that can be maliciously accessed. No hard drive encryption will help, if somebody is directly on your device. This is far more invasive than the library processing of images on a smartphone to image query. There sure is more to come in terms of more practice oriented AI. Why would I use recall to reopen something, when I can - instead of searching within recall to reopen it - reopen the file itself. Only usecase: I deleted a file permanently and want to access contents of it. This is the only useful case I can imagine.

[@YISTECH]

Yes, thats why the word 'glorified' was used. ​@@Sammysapphira

[@cheesechasers1650]

3 weeks into linux and i must say holy shit how blind i was as to not try it before. It feels ethereal to not have microsoft breathing down my neck to see everything that i do and grab every last pixel as their adspace

[@avisprimey]

It's a liberating experience if you use your PC a lot, but do keep in mind that due to the nature of the internet, you will still have some telemetry in web-centric apps like a web browser or Steam. At the operating system level, though, it's radio silence, just like it should be

[@darkshadowsaver]

​@@avisprimeyi don't mind web ad space but the OS should never have telemetry or ads baked in. I could understand telemetry if it was only for system integrity health so patches could fix potential problems in the future. Problem is I don't trust microshaft since I found them over paying for vudu through the Xbox live. Yes I have a Xbox for watching vudu.

[@sleepywitches]

Windows being the best Linux advertiser. Keep it up microsoft, focus on security adding the most hackable and unsecure "features" on your system. Nicely done!

[@BobGoldfield]

Now you can go through the recall history of you looking at the recall history

[@HollywoodCameraWork]

Doesn't this violate GDPR and PCI? If I'm a customer service representative, this means saving customer data locally and unencrypted. If I'm taking a phone order and entering a credit card into a virtual terminal, I'm changing the whole company's PCI classification by having this information saved locally. And since it's part of the OS, a malware scanner won't even detect it, bypassing another PCI requirement.

[@someguy4252]

it likely does outside some obscure series of loopholes im not aware of... i wonder if microsoft is counting on their market size being enough to make legislators balk at taking any action. a lot of things run on windows even atms, if they had to suddenly cut windows outta the country it would cause mass chaos. if i can see this microsoft likely can too... if lawmakers decide to go f it do it anyway this could spell disaster for microsoft as it would break their "monopoly" in the area by creating an exploitable vacuum that competetors/ third parties can exploit. it could also renew calls to break up microsoft as well once the new cycle picks up the news that they got hit with regulation and the results are in joe smiths face... a clever marketing team at microsoft might be able to prevert the anger twords the legislature instead with varying degrees of success.

[@HollywoodCameraWork]

@@someguy4252 This has nothing to do with regulation, it's PCI compliance with Visa/MC/banks. If a company has a data breach and is found to not be PCI compliant at the time of the breach, the penalty is high. As soon as you store a number, the security demands are very high on how you store it. Yet Recall will force every business that takes phone orders to store credit card numbers unencrypted. It's a severe violation, and exposes every company to massive financial liability. This is why we don't run our own payment systems anymore. Storing payment information is a sober responsibility.

[@HEEEX]

All my homies turning to linux

[@musicalneptunian]

Mint!

[@avisprimey]

Debian! But I'd recommend starting with Mint

[@another-niko-pfp-holder]

@@avisprimey I'm really confused, is it just me who went through absolute package management hell on Debian? When I tried Mint there was always SOME new package manager that I needed to install, then it most likely didn't work so I needed to fix it, and then what I was trying to install didn't launch properly anyway. On Arch I either do Pacman or from the AUR, or sometimes just a regular makefile or bash script.

[@Nick-ue7iw]

@@another-niko-pfp-holder No, I switched to Manjaro this year mainly over the absolute nightmare that is getting current MESA onto anything running debian. About the only thing I mess from Mint is certain UI elements.

[@another-niko-pfp-holder]

@@Nick-ue7iw You could just install the cinnamon version of Manjaro, it worked fine for me

[@moetocafe]

a vital skynet component, no doubt

[@apolodelsol]

I guess this would be the perfect time for a Linux tutorial 101

[@Carbon3979]

i almost "upgraded" to windows 11 yesterday glad i didn't, Think imma stay on 10 for a while and then eventually move to Linux mint which from what i tried is very user friendly for someone is very tech incompetent such as myself. I just hope wallpaper engine gets linux support

[@da_roachdogjr]

There might not be that many people actually leaving windows to linux, but our numbers grow by the day

[@ValleyMansonOfficial]

feds to newer feds: *we're going to watch this as a cost cutting measure*

[@Tigeristiger]

I'm waiting for the flood of videos of "Feds were able to find X person due to the Recall function in Windows" I just know it will happen.

[@insomnium369]

all the fed would have to do is search through their computer, and the evidence would be all there! assuming theyre stupid enough to do something illegal on windows 11, but some people seem like they really dont think...

[@shirayukinobunaga9424]

The scariest part about this, is not microsoft auto enabling this on sight but a hacker downloading the amperage kit to the infected computer and simply turning it on. Imagine the juicy data harvesting on Non-copilot+ pcs

[@Ryanska_u]

Ive been switching on and off from windows and arch a lot, but this is the final nail in the coffin. It has also gotten easier to just emulate windows through Linux and use all adobe products (or maybe my autism spectrum is just too high to call it "easy" lmao)

[@Ryanska_u]

Matter of fact my university has given us thinkpads with Linux Mint installed since this year began lmao

[@GruntyGame]

If the dislike button plugin I use is within spitting distance of the actual number of dislikes. That's got to be the best ratio I've seen. Goes to show there isn't much controversy over the position of this being a scary feature.

[@MyurrDurr]

Cant wait for the sheer amount of login credentials and propriety code leaks caused by Recall to happen!

[@Macintosh007]

I was already pissed off at windows due to so many issues, this updated finally pushed me to linux.

[@musicalneptunian]

mint!

[@GDNachoo]

installed mint on my machine almost 2 weeks ago, it has its downsides, but it's so worth it... plus it's faster

[@Macintosh007]

@@musicalneptunian Yea that's the one I'm picking.

[@Macintosh007]

@@GDNachoo For now I'm still keeping windows just in case and will try linux from a bootable external ssd.

[@avisprimey]

@@Macintosh007 Just make sure you have BitLocker disabled on Windows first!, else you'll need to unlock it when you try to get back into Windows

[@karenpojar2514]

Nothing like taking snapshots of your credit card info or uploading your confidential business plans to an AI.

[@naimahmed6147]

As a long time Windows user, I began using Linux Mint on an old laptop. Quite inconvenient to use but better than getting spied on.

[@DaiBataieFrate]

If that code is already implemented into the system. I am 100% sure that this will still be active even if you turn that off. Maybe not to that extent but still its there. And its also easy to reactivate it by some hacker... so they have the spyware tool already built in. On the next visit they have everything they need handed over by M$

[@JJFX-]

Recall is going to make a lot of people in India very, very happy.

[@pulaski5220]

Do not redeem it saar

[@rot_studios]

Yeah especially if Recall is gonna be on by default, which means the average victim doesn't even know their entire life is being logged, ripe for the plucking by scammers.

[@meanpillscasper]

Wouldn’t this violate every NDA signed by people that use Windows for work?

[@nocaptcha8110]

I think this will blow up to be way funnier than it actually is, the app data directory keeps getting bloated to the point your windows can't boot, now they're gonna add 25 gigabytes of screenshots to it. Amazing feature, I still can't understand why every apps garbage needs to be in the app data directory and why you can't change it.

[@P-39_Airacobra]

The BEST way to counter hackers is to expose HOW they do it... assuming Microsoft even cares.

[@j.r.8176]

This was the final straw for me. I'd been dual-booting Linux and Windows. Since yesterday I'm only running Linux and never going back.

[@KORUPTable]

I went from testing live linux distros, to dual booting linux and windows to finally just using linux full time and turning my windows partition into a VM if I ever need it (I still haven't found a need for it but it's nice to have)

[@Petrezen1982]

Hackers get easy life with every new windows. This never gets old. I've heard that in 1996.

[@avisprimey]

It never changes, does it? The ways we could make fun of Windows back in 1996 are the same ways we could make fun of it now

[@Petrezen1982]

@@avisprimey Corrupt since 96. Thats a brand quality.

[@totallynuts7595]

This sealed it for me. Never running windows on my machines ever again. I was considering getting windows to run a few multiplayer games that don't work well with proton, but it's not worth it. I gave up on using windows about 6 years ago, for me at least that's roughly the same amount of time that I had been consciously using windows and the very beginning of me trying to understand how computers work, funnily enough.

[@HkRines]

I've always been that type of person: "I don't care about spyware" But this is crossing any reasonable lines! Microsoft is completely fucked up presenting this feature. If this trend will continues in the future I may seriously consider switching to one of the Linux distributions. Congrats Microsoft, you canceled this feature but i think not for long

[@SuperTort0ise]

My favorite part is it's "opt in" as in the OOBE forces you to trun it on and then you can turn it off later. Can't imagine anyone forgetting to turn it off later so not a problem, definitely opt in feature, and Microsoft is the best!

[@CrucialFlowResearch]

No, it's opt out not opt in

[@SuperTort0ise]

@@CrucialFlowResearch yes that's exactly what I said, it's called sarcasm 😀

[@mars5train601]

​@@SuperTort0iseClearly if you read the first seven words it says opt in. Definitely nothing after that. :)

[@CrucialFlowResearch]

@@SuperTort0ise difficult to know if people are serious or not, given how stupid tech is becoming

[@SilesianWarrior]

It will opt you back in automatically after each update of course. In 2 months the slider will move to some obscure submenu. In 6 it will disappear completely.

[@M0onnCake]

I am in the process of moving to Linux, currently dual booting win11 and garuda hyperland. I wanted to do something wack for my... Second time in about 5 years using Linux, and so far really enjoying it. Not enjoying the issues, but so far I've been able to work through most of them. It's in a mostly stable state right now, and once it's fully up and working I'll probably try and get rid of the rest of windows

[@ehtrude]

I am simply unable to understand how people tolerate this garbage. Just use Linux Mint or something, it's not hard at all.

[@russrockwood6720]

Just got cinnamon today 😎

[@ClyDIley]

First off, you people who know the contemporary jargon have no idea how unintuitive this shit is, even for well educated people who been using computers since ever, and the jargons always changing. Not a fuckin thing outlaw did in this video is comprehendable by 99% of the population. I rebuilt my own trucks automatic transmission and even I got stumpedast tome trying to go Linux

[@scrambledmandible]

​@ClyDIley Well either it's a little learning curve, or being a sucker for corporate spyware

[@aijokker]

We are cows we are stupid

[@ehtrude]

@@ClyDIley for people who don't know how a computer works, all they need is a web browser, that comes preinstalled, and an office suite, that also comes preinstalled.

[@luqmanhamdan9285]

I got the eerie vibe that Recall is a point of view from massive surveillance system on every single computer and no doubt these features gonna be loved by various threat actor alike including 3 letter agency. The reason I said this was because everyone seems totally forgot Snowden revelation back in 2013 and it's already 10 years ago.

[@Shockwaveo]

Windows , your front door to the NSA

[@YISTECH]

🤣

[@debianlasmana8794]

this is literally the first time yt popping video from my subs list this fast... if it aint a sign....