You know the best word to describe Warner Brothers? Incompetent. They have the most A- Listed Superheroes in their hands and have no idea how to deal with them.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
They have had every opponent to make a DC cinematic universe and they always find a way to screw it up. ALWAYS.
@marvel22-mf1js3 ай бұрын
Nope,marvel has the most A list superheroes now.
@Villakeen3 ай бұрын
@@marvel22-mf1jsthat’s not the argument
@Kalel2.03 ай бұрын
@@marvel22-mf1jsDC however had an advantage from the very beginning their were no rights issues meaning they always had access to their A Listers like Batman,The Flash,Superman and Batman compared to Marvel who only had the rights to their B-Z list characters a lot of whom were unknown to general audiences
@Stanlos3 ай бұрын
The clue was their holding the WW license for DECADES with no action
@boshwa203 ай бұрын
Making Flash's first movie be Flashpoint is like making Spiderman's first movie be Spiderverse Also, the dude has hundreds of stories, can we PLEASE stop using time travel and/or the multiverse for the Flash!?
@Alf-gm7tf3 ай бұрын
Too much suicide squad, not enough justice league.
@CaseyJustice3 ай бұрын
Making 2 Suicide Squad movies and 1 Justice League movie is craaaaaazy.
@mythos63083 ай бұрын
Suicide Squad got a fucking video game before a modern Justice League game, they got an animated show before Wonder Woman or Green Lantern, and they got a sequel before the Justice League even got one and most of their characters including Batman got his own solo movie it’s actually wild
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
What a waste
@kendi53913 ай бұрын
@@mythos6308 Actually Green Lantern animated series came out before Suicide Squad Isekai.
@daraghokane42363 ай бұрын
@@mythos6308 Also they ruined the point of Suicide Squad the point was there were all disposible c list characters that can die as the writers don't care about them. Harly quinn feels just as immortal as batman and superman now they won't kill her off she is not disposable like the Squad should be
@C.R.Cole3313 ай бұрын
Imagine a ship trying to sail across the ocean with: No captain, no sense of direction and no clearly defined destination. That was the DCEU in a nutshell.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
Imagine a crew that could've chosen a more sunny direction, but instead chose to go headfirst into a storm. Wrecking their ship and sinking.
@yourarchnemesis84533 ай бұрын
It's more like a chicken with its head cut and the body is just running around in circles.
@frogmouth23 ай бұрын
Shoutout to Dwayne Johnson for fucking up the shazam movies because of his ego.
@Cosmicshambler3 ай бұрын
The Shazam movies were always gonna fizzle out cause they casted Zachary Levi as shazam
@NisarKhan-jm1uh2 ай бұрын
@@CosmicshamblerWhat's wrong with Zachary levi as Shazam. I thought he did a great job.
@Cosmicshambler2 ай бұрын
@@NisarKhan-jm1uh hes cringe and he looked dumb in that muscle suit.
@ETPlayground6 күн бұрын
@@Cosmicshambler he's supposed to be goofy and cringe worthy? He's kid with the body of a man; seeing a man, especially one with Captain Marvel's powers (I refuse to acknowledge the name change because it's stupid) acting like a kid should be cringe.
@eriknimo45173 ай бұрын
Zach Snyder ruining people’s fundamental understandings of Batman and Superman didn’t help either😭
@vindozadm77723 ай бұрын
Exactly
@commentor2058-p4b3 ай бұрын
Fr
@jonathanpartido3 ай бұрын
THIS
@disgruntleddev3 ай бұрын
Real
@th_Wall_Boi3 ай бұрын
If anything, there's something to thank Snyder for. Thanks to his version of Superman, people appreciate more the classic big blue
@erikdean54833 ай бұрын
I completely believe that the Flash movie only got made because WB saw how successful Spiderman No Way Home was. They saw Marvel doing multiverses and thought “we can do that”
@mrbluesky48383 ай бұрын
Nope, if you did any research you’d know the film was shot in 2021 and the script was already written a year or two before. They planned to explore the multiverse before No Way Home was even confirmed to be a Multiverse film.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
@@mrbluesky4838the fact that Ezra Miller choking that lady happened in 2020, and they could've recast him then but decided to keep him in is crazy.
@ArishemTheJudge-193 ай бұрын
@@mrbluesky4838 That doesn't mean they didn't take any influcences from No way Home considering it came out the same year the Flash movie was shooting.
@erikdean54833 ай бұрын
@@mrbluesky4838 I stand corrected
@grph1t3z3 ай бұрын
Not at all thanks for showing your lack of knowledge on comics
@pedanticat94793 ай бұрын
It is insane how Dwayne Johnson was obsessed with Black Adam fighting Superman instead of his actual arch-nemesis Shazama. Like if he truly cared about the character like he claims, then he would have been all for his character fighting Shazam. And speaking of that movie, the fact that the sequel didn't have Mr. Mind be the villain like it was teased at the ending makes no damn sense. Its even more infuriating since Furry of the Gods basically just use the same post credit scene all over again! I hope in the new Gunn universe, we get a new version of Shazam and Black Adam so that the character can be done justice (as well as Flash)
@kal02473 ай бұрын
DC turned Captain Marvel into a dancing goofball clown in a puffy suit while the Rock wanted a serious tone to his movie, and I don't blame him one bit,I'd rather see him fight Henry's Superman over that own they made Captain Marvel into any day of the week.
@ligtningdog63993 ай бұрын
Dwayne only likes Black Adam because he thinks Adam can beat Superman, because of the magic. He wanted nothing to do with Shazam because he knows that Shazam (being the actual hero in this situation) will beat Adam. His "changing the hierarchy of power" is just a kid wanting to be best-est best of everything.
@goldshot7543 ай бұрын
@@ligtningdog6399 the thing is Shazam actually couldn’t beat Black Atom. Cause literally in the rocks contract it stats that he can’t lose in any fight. Which is the dumbest and most insecure thing on the planet.
@NeonPlanes3 ай бұрын
@@kal0247 I agree the tone shift would have been off, but we all know that isn't why The Rock did it... He has an ego like no other. He simply wanted to be able to say he whooped Superman's ass (since he has it in his contract he'll never lose). No matter who he fought he wouldnt have lost. It would have been like Batman V Superman. Them against each other until a bigger bad shows up.
@Peacemaker2024-A9T3 ай бұрын
Exactly, Dr. mind should be the villain of the sequel!
@primefamous3 ай бұрын
The Rock coming into the DCEU and muking it up even further didn't help either. "The hierarchy of power in the DC Universe is about to change" damn that's so corny lol
@orbboom61193 ай бұрын
Unc thought he was cooking😂
@BlackClaw23 ай бұрын
He did change the hierarchy of power. But definitely not in the way he intended. Lol.
@Amz_683 ай бұрын
He really try to make black Adam the centre of dc along with superman
@GiveonKing3 ай бұрын
@@Amz_68like what a ridiculous stitch and dc allowed that. He didn’t even care about Shazam when his character was created FOR captain marvel
@ArishemTheJudge-193 ай бұрын
@@orbboom6119 He burnt the Kitchen😂
@ashleysmith54273 ай бұрын
The fact that people wanted James Gunn to keep pieces of this universe and salvage it.. I’m glad he’s started fresh.
@gohanson273 ай бұрын
The fact that people think James Gunn can make a successful DCU is mind blowing. Did you not just hear what was said in this video? Guardian only worked because MCU built up that trust. The film boss fight ended in a dance battle. Now add that scene to a DC film.😅
@jangofett7113 ай бұрын
@@gohanson27what?
@gohanson273 ай бұрын
@@jangofett711 ?
@daraghokane42363 ай бұрын
@@gohanson27 That film would work without seeing any MCU stuff, You know a film ending in a dance off feels very silver age
@heathmiller95333 ай бұрын
@@gohanson2710/10 rage bait
@justbruhjustbruh3 ай бұрын
Another major problem with WB is that they don't give characters seconded chances. For example Green Lantern was a flop and as a result we haven't gotten a Green Lantern movie or even a movie appearance in OVER A DECADE. Green lantern s CORE MEMBER of the Justice League not getting a showcase at all in the dceu. On the other hand when a movie/character succeeds they heavily overuse it. Just look at Harley Quinn she got her own movie plus two huge appearances in the Suicide squad movies. WB just sticks to things that succeed/overuse them while completely abandoning characters that don't perform as well.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
What's crazy is the Suicide Squad movies an Harley Quinn movies all bombed. So where are they getting this idea that they're so popular?
@bigbearkat20103 ай бұрын
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp the first Suicide Squad actually was a pretty big hit making pretty close to GOTG numbers, even if it sucked. As for the overuse of Harley Quinn, I always figured they wanted to cash in on being able to sign her to what I assumed was a multi-picture deal before she had become big. From my memory because of the pandemic, WB didn't even really give the sequel a theatrical release, so yeah of course it bombed.
@Alf-gm7tf2 ай бұрын
After the failure of suicide squad kill the justice league and joker 2, hopefully means we won’t see them for atleast a decade.
@CodenamePrince3 ай бұрын
Dark and gritty was stupid. Then hiring several people who didn't know or care about the characters.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
Yup, it was doomed from the start
@Real_Evil_Mario3 ай бұрын
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp It really was
@bigbearkat20103 ай бұрын
I think the reasoning at the time was that dark and gritty was doing really well for them with the Nolan Batman movies. It just never occurred to them that doesn't necessarily work for all superheroes.
@Spac3BirdDuke3 ай бұрын
If it was stupid why was they making alot of money
@Real_Evil_Mario3 ай бұрын
@@Spac3BirdDuke No one’s going to take you seriously if you can’t type a proper sentence.
@ArishemTheJudge-193 ай бұрын
Their first mistake was hiring Zack Snyder. Their second mistake was trying desperately to copy the MCU, like seriously why the hell would you make an awful Superman movie then follow it up with Batman V Superman???? Thats like if Marvel released the first Ironman movie then released Civil War right after that, what sense would that make??🤣
@AJ-xc4qe3 ай бұрын
I read a subreddit thread reminding me that one of the reasons why DC (and Fantastic Four) kept falling wasn't just executive meddling but because they didn't have their own independent studio yet like Marvel did. And now they do and I'm excited for the DCU.
@Soundwavedits20123 ай бұрын
Man of Steel was actually pretty good
@Batx0123LOLXD3 ай бұрын
@@Soundwavedits2012if it wasnt we wouldnt have a dceu it was what followed which was awful
@Tom-bq7eb3 ай бұрын
First of all Zack Snyder never wanted bvs it was wb do some research and stop being stupid
@Batx0123LOLXD3 ай бұрын
@@Tom-bq7eb stop glazing
@ironman99ify3 ай бұрын
Imagine telling someone before the 2010s (hell even now honestly) that there would be a DC cinematic universe and not only would it suck but the most financially successful movie in the franchise would be about the guy who “talks to fish”😂
@Kalel2.03 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree especially considering even back then DC was always thought to have a bigger advantage over Marvel when it came to starting a cinematic universe with zero rights baggage and telling someone in the 2000s on a fan forums or site Aquaman would be the only billion dollar hit would ģet you laughed at😂
@harryrao42963 ай бұрын
@@Kalel2.0but wv and dc only ever wanted batman 20+ before the mcu they never had any desire to oush other then batman/superman .The only reason why flash ww or aquaman movies is because of mcu taking lesser characters and elevating then.
@malikpierre-louis33433 ай бұрын
Dc keeps fumbling the bag I REALLY hope James Gun fixes this mess.
@ahmadmohammed42123 ай бұрын
You and everyone else have been forgetting that Peter Safran is working with James Gunn on business side of things and Gunn will handle the new DCU on creative side of things
@optillian41823 ай бұрын
The DCU's gonna be goated. Mark my words.
@blockwearingman3 ай бұрын
he will
@malikpierre-louis33433 ай бұрын
@@ahmadmohammed4212Fine I hope Peter Safran and James Gun fix this mess.
@malikpierre-louis33433 ай бұрын
@@optillian4182Alright.
@dionysisnance42043 ай бұрын
dc not releasing batgirl when it was basically finished
@anubusx3 ай бұрын
I'm more interested in The Vought Cinematic Universe.
@om584993 ай бұрын
It would have bomb spectacular so yes that was a mistake the amount of laugh we could have gotten from it
@Loreweavver3 ай бұрын
DC didn't know if it wanted to have a golden age of cinema or go do grimdark and we got some silver age campiness as a result
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
A nice balance would've been perfect, but they always choose one or the other.
@abiodunsulaiman22973 ай бұрын
Still crazy how the dceu's only billion dollar movie was aquaman
@ilovemakoto3 ай бұрын
Then the 2nd movie went on to do terribly
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
@@ilovemakotoyes, but out of the final DCEU movies it still did the best lol
@kingt02953 ай бұрын
@@ilovemakotowasn’t that bc the dc universe was publicly being rebooted when the sequel released? No one is gonna see a dc movie apart of a universe that is gonna be deleted soon lol
@yungfirefly3 ай бұрын
Zack really ruined perceptions of many DC characters. Batman and Superman, heavily. And the more we see him talk about them; the more we see he hasn't the foggiest clue about them.
@Tom-bq7eb3 ай бұрын
Many ?? Bro got zod right wonder woman how many characters did Snyder even use so stop being dumb
@qrzt20003 ай бұрын
@@Tom-bq7eb Is English your first language?
@Tom-bq7eb3 ай бұрын
@@qrzt2000 well I leave in Scotland why do you ask fool
@Tom-bq7eb3 ай бұрын
@@qrzt2000 the real question is that is English yours because I clearly gave out a well sentenced text if you can't understand it then you must be stupid
@yungfirefly3 ай бұрын
@@Tom-bq7eb Getting a villain right isn't as important as getting a hero right.
@user_miike3 ай бұрын
after spiderverse, invincible, and xmen 97 i think comic book projects should stay animated
@CreativelyBankrupt-gc4dw3 ай бұрын
Yeah. The DCAU isn’t perfect but it’s miles better than the DCEU for sure. Some of the visuals in DC would most likely work when they’re animated rather than live action and it would just be overall better to look at rather than the cheap CGI.
@sahirfareeda57653 ай бұрын
My gripe against black Adam is the fact that they listen to the rock and pushed Shazam to the side . Black Adam always shoulda been a Shazam x Adam story .
@ShadowWingTronix3 ай бұрын
As far as Black Adam, I think Johnson went into wrestler mode, and wanted a shot at the champion. He liked Black Adam, didn't care about Shazam (the REAL Captain Marvel to me), and just wanted to fight Superman, comics be damned. He really has gone Hollywood.
@TheSsjJoker3 ай бұрын
“It was me barry, I ruin these films…I made the Dceu collapse”
@mlgodzilla42063 ай бұрын
The biggest failure was not letting Batman fight Godzilla in the 60’s
@Alf-gm7tf2 ай бұрын
We didn’t even get to see batman fight in a giant robot bat 😔
@kal83_3 ай бұрын
The whole Snyder universe was just to piss real fans off 😂😂 its aight to change sum things about characters and be unique but they uniqueness just made it ass 🤷♂️
@Walupeach45283 ай бұрын
The only people who would actually enjoy the Snyderverse are edgy teenagers
@ii-mp1sp3 ай бұрын
Justice League 2021 is one of the best superhero movies I've seen, Warners made a crime not to continue it.
@Alf-gm7tf2 ай бұрын
@ii-mp1sp found one
@jaredgarcia86383 ай бұрын
Well MCU Fans are fading now. People are sick of Disney's shit period
@ligtningdog63993 ай бұрын
It took Diseny almost 20 years to ruin the MCU. WB ruined the DCEU from very start.
@faiyaz97683 ай бұрын
Sadly I hope the MCU and DC get their shit together
@IndecisiveJR3 ай бұрын
I mean still got Deadpool and Wolverine, Loki, X men Spider man fantastic four coming and a still existent universe so they still doin better than dc atm.
@rorylumley47273 ай бұрын
honestly mcu seems to be getting stuff together with quality over quantity. The dcu is a constantly changing mess.
@pianist1503 ай бұрын
Honestly, I can genuinely believe that Jaden Smith would've watched The Flash and thought it changed his life. Probably made him rethink the concept of time or some shit
@ligtningdog63993 ай бұрын
Probably did change his life. The few hundred dollars WB payed him must of made his day.
@pianist1503 ай бұрын
@@ligtningdog6399 I'll be real, if WB was like "yo tell your friends the flash is the best movie ever and we'll give you $200." I'd say "You want it on twitter, instagram or should I just send a group text."
@SaperBossTv3 ай бұрын
I wonder if it changed his opinion on the economic state of the world though.
@Alf-gm7tf3 ай бұрын
As meatcanyon once said about Warner bros, “ they’ve only been around for 97 years, their probably still developing good business practices”
@nizarali97113 ай бұрын
WB keeps fumbling and pushing harly quinn and the suicide squad like we had more 15 freaking suicide squad adaptions and a new harley quinn every week the goddamn kite man got his own show but no to a batman beyond movie by spiderverse writers we didn't get any batman beyond content since the 90's or the early 2000's but What do we expect from the people who promoted flash as the greatest superheroes movie ever
@yourarchnemesis84533 ай бұрын
Harley Quinn and fucking Kite man got an animated series before Wonder Woman 😭
@nizarali97113 ай бұрын
@@yourarchnemesis8453 we could've got wonder woman vs the greek mythology like the kraken the minator or the titans but they settled for a show about Harley quinn shiting on other beloved charcters Damn WB wants harley quinn to be dc deadpool so fucking bad
@Amessbyalbert3 ай бұрын
Anyone remember that time in dc fandome when they spent six minutes talking about Barry’s new shoes in the flash show
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
They did that? Wtf?
@hoodieboykeylin61423 ай бұрын
They just need too make a Martian Manhunter movie
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
Are you sure you want one from WB? They always find a way to screw things up
@tylerlong51123 ай бұрын
To put it simply they had no real plan they where so desperate to catch up to marvel that they didn’t have a clear vision and got the wrong people involved.
@AhabweArthur3 ай бұрын
HOT TAKE: Zack Snyder's Justice League is a mid movie (it's not bad, but it ain't good either). I think it's looked at with rose tinted eyes because of how bad the Josstice League was. If it was released instead of the josstice league, it would have received mixed reviews. It's better than BvS but not as good as man of steel. Also Snyder's best DC film (in my opinion) is watchmen.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
Honestly, the best Justice League would've been a combination between Josstice League and Snyder's Justice League. They both had elements that were good, but both also had a lot of bad.
@AhabweArthur3 ай бұрын
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp I agree
@boshwa203 ай бұрын
Nothing in that movie changes the fact that only like 3 members of the Justice League actually had screentime before it. Well.....two actually, because Batman's only movie was a fucking VERSUS MOVIE
@ii-mp1sp3 ай бұрын
Justice League 2021 is one of the best superhero movies I've seen, Warners made a crime not to continue it.
@zanechima-azubuikezane29662 ай бұрын
Finally someone who isn't glazing the Synders movie. It wasnt that great
@gabemyers45163 ай бұрын
Also I love how he refused to be a villain in this movie only for him to come back to WWE to play one of the greatest villains of the 2020’s
@Kalel2.03 ай бұрын
That wasnt the plan tho. They were forced to pivot with Rocks heel turn after the teasing and making him vs Roman at this years Mania was received horribly by casual and hardcore fans. It wouldve been like if the plan in 2014 was Triple H beat Bryan in the opener of WM 30 and advanced in the main event Triple Threat.
@gabemyers45163 ай бұрын
@EddiePGRPlayer420 In recent times yes but WWE has always had top tier villains
@Silver_Spectre3 ай бұрын
My biggest fear is Flash getting the Green Lantern pretreatment, that because the show and movie were hated WB convinces themselves nobody wants more Flash content
@ColeTrainWayne3 ай бұрын
I still do think a cool moment from the Flash should’ve been when Zod was talking about Baby Kal, imagine how cool it would’ve been if Kal el stepped out from behind Zod and fought Kara
@SecretMagician2 ай бұрын
Imagine if that was Nicolas Cage's Superman's showcase instead of the random cameo where he fought an alien spider.
@Brolygarcia923 ай бұрын
What hurts me the most about all of this is that we're not gonna se the trinity together in the movies again for a long, long, looong time...
@msibi3 ай бұрын
Everytime The Rock says 'listening to the fans' he means his ego 😂
@kzakulenga51383 ай бұрын
After 10 yrs of watching them fuck up trying to imitate Marvel,I am NEVER watching DC live action movies again. As a fan i gave them 10 years worth of chances only for them to reboot it all because they epically fucked up their entire universe.
@The-Heavenly-Badger3 ай бұрын
So even if the new DCU was good, you still wouldn't watch it?
@kzakulenga51383 ай бұрын
@@The-Heavenly-Badger nigga i gave them 10 years 😂😂😂😂. I'm only interested in their animated projects. If i want to see a live action super hero I'll watch a Marvel film. I'm good on their new projects. Everything I was interested in and had hope for died with the flash movie.
@kzakulenga51383 ай бұрын
No.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
They wasted time and resources on the Snyderverse and Arrowverse instead of doing a proper DC cinematic universe. And now they're asking us to stick woth them for another 10 years for Gunn's version. No thanks
@society73943 ай бұрын
The biggest tragedy of the Flash movie is that it isn’t even about the Flash but the characters reputation still had to go down the drain for it, like at least Green Lantern was actually trying to be about the character.
@SourRobo83643 ай бұрын
The DCEU is going to be taught in schools on how not to structure an expansive story franchise.
@monobro1413 ай бұрын
Harley had like two movies Batman didn't get ONE focus movie(Not counting how Micheal Keton solo the Flash movie)
@samuelwanzio47033 ай бұрын
The black Adam movie should of been a movie about a villain being the villain why is he acting a antihero. If they just made him a villain and the justice society try to stop him the entire movie and he stays a villain the entire movie. I think the movie would of been better that way
@hexagonshorts21863 ай бұрын
Crazy how both Ryan and Rock made 2 B listers into MCU and DCU One wanted to shift hierarchy and one wanted to be Marvel Jesus One worked and one flopped The difference Ryan made a joke of himself while Rock couldn’t even leave his ego for a second
@cahe61613 ай бұрын
I have a friend who won't come near anything DC just because of the DCEU's bad reputation
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
Yeah, i get that. I only really like Aquaman, Wonder Woman, and Shazam. Thank goodness they're very standalone. Almost feel like early 2000s superhero movies.
@johans31643 ай бұрын
I have friends like that too. Its seriously sad by this point
@karimdavis7065Ай бұрын
Then he must be an MCU shill DC is INFINITELY better than Marvel. You wouldn't even have superheroes/superpowers if it wasn't for DC/Superman
@karimdavis7065Ай бұрын
Then he's probably an MCU shill This shows that you know nothing about DC Comics DC is INFINITELY better than Marvel. You wouldn't even have superheroes/superpowers if it wasn't for DC/Superman
@sdfawe-qo8eq3 ай бұрын
Their biggest failure is rejecting my “Rise of the Titans” screenplay
@Alf-gm7tf3 ай бұрын
A cinematic universe where superman is evil and Batman uses a gun was destined to fail.
@mohamedaljassmy3 ай бұрын
The sad part that dc had the big hitters since day one and marvel had to create big hitters. And dc didn’t trust their own hero’s they wanted to catch up with marvel instead of doing good stories. Look at the Batman 2022 people say it’s the best thing since the dark knight because of good writing and a great story.
@Riley-wu7pe3 ай бұрын
The black adam suit with the hood 👍
@judahdar65523 ай бұрын
The DC games aren't good either and there aren't many of them and the only justification for not putting more emphasis on it is that the DC movies failed miserably (and it's not certain either because I don't know to what extent because maybe there were still people who grew up on the DCAU or series And the other animated movies. Maybe the DCMAU was more successful than I think and so is the arrow universe and the justice league action series. Of course the teen titans go is still successful and popular. I don't know because I live in a country where superheroes are not very popular.) DC is going in a good direction, there is no reason not to invest in superhero games.
@TheBatman6672 ай бұрын
Shut up
@Foxatemysushi3 ай бұрын
What do you use to edit and voice record?
@neymar30d683 ай бұрын
Great Video. I always felt that the DCEU just crumbled after 2017 Justice League. Besides Aquaman tho.
@werty43353 ай бұрын
One minute ago is wild
@itstaemonson3 ай бұрын
Black Adam should have been the main villain in a third Shazam movie if we’re being honest.
@GiveonKing3 ай бұрын
It’s also interesting and ironic how the 2 biggest hits from DCEU came from the flops eg justice league and Aquaman
@B-man_117_3 ай бұрын
The worst part about it is I think that almost everyone who was cast in the DCEU were perfect for their roles. Even if they didn’t get to fully show it off.
@madison_birra54893 ай бұрын
gubernatorial
@Wanderer23313 ай бұрын
They barely advertised Shazam 2 & Blue Beetle. Yet they went full out to promote The Flash.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
Snyderverse was doomed from the start when they hired Snyder to make Man of Steel. It's not hard. Build up Batman for a couple of films. Build up Superman for a couple of films. Then World's Finest. After that just build up the other Justice League members. Then Justice League. It's really not hard, but WB ALWAYS figures out a way to screw things up.
@daraghokane42363 ай бұрын
You don't need to build stuff Up everyone knows these characters just jump in. The arkham games started with Batman taking Joker back to jail again then gets traped in the jail with him. We didn't need to see there first enoucuter we didn't even need to see there most recent encounter, Marvel retconed that Ironman was not the first hero Antman was one decades ago. You can start the first superman movie with Superman exissting in meteroplasis for a while and everyone thinks aliens exsisting is normal. You think that is confusing or hard to follow My little pony the movie just jumps into a magic world with no exposition and that is a film for four year olds
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
@daraghokane4236 I'm not saying make origin stories for Superman or Batman, but the other Justice League members definitely would need one since they're less well known. Batman and Superman should have movies that show why they matter, but still allow for their world's to be built up. They should have a starting point to introduce these versions of the characters to the audience. For example, for Batman a good starting point would be for him to already be established as Batman. And the main story is about Bruce Wayne adopting Dick Grayson, while investigating the death of the Graysons. It's a good story to start with because portrays Batman as a father figure. That's why Batman matters. Kids in real life learned from him. And it also opens the door for the rest of the Batfamily as well as the Teen Titans. I like your idea on Superman. It's the best way to start with Superman. I'd have Lex Luthor create villains from the shadows such as Metallo and Parasite, and maybe portray them as heroes. Then they get out of control and Superman has to stop them. Something simple.
@skittlesareretcon61093 ай бұрын
In all honesty they could've done what the MCU did with its trinity and do better since the justice league trinity is more popular.
@ii-mp1sp3 ай бұрын
Justice League 2021 is one of the best superhero movies I've seen, Warners made a crime not to continue it.
@hyperburno73103 ай бұрын
It's a good thing the bat girl movie got canceled ngl
@GOATSportsMIXES3 ай бұрын
The fact that Batman vs Superman had so many sale is proof that even a shitty movie can make you money if you focus on your heavy hitters
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
Problem was that it didn't do justice to either character. In Batman's first appearance, he wants to kill Superman. In Superman's 2nd appearance, he dies. How am I supposed to get hyped up for this?
@bigbearkat20103 ай бұрын
BvS' financial success should be solely credited to WBs marketing department. They had a huge opening weekend because of it but once word of mouth kicked in, the box office fell off a cliff. Over half the movie's domestic was made in the first three days.
@ayiza85113 ай бұрын
in my books every movie in the DCU was a flop expect the first Wonder Woman
@GiveonKing3 ай бұрын
And Aquaman. Everything else flopped
@TheJanissary903 ай бұрын
One of the reason this universe was one of the biggest Failure for me including William Dafoe to universe NOT as Joker but random ass supportive character in Aquaman.Guy who made this casting decision should be removed from hollywood.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
Wasted time on the Snyderverse and Arrowverse for 10 years instead of really dedicating the time and resources to a proper DC cinematic universe.
@joshjones97493 ай бұрын
DC/WB has to be the shining example of the worst planning a company has ever done lol its baffling when you look at the full picture
@RabbiJoeInJerusalem3 ай бұрын
It was so easy to make mine DC when I was a kid. Superman dominated the movies from the late 70s to the mid 80s, Batman from the late 80s to the mid 90s. But the MCU is just objectively better--even in 2024. And Marvel dominated even before that, with Blade and X-Men and Spider-Man.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
MCU was better up until Infinity War. Everything after that has been mid to bad
@TheFallen33 ай бұрын
Since subscribing like 5-6 days ago, I’ve been watching youre videos non stop and I’m glad I’m early for one.
@onigames73093 ай бұрын
Yep, a reboot was the way to go. They had chances to course correct, but never took em'. The DCEU was damaged goods. Even with better leadership, they couldn't have undone years of terrible storytelling.
@rorylumley47273 ай бұрын
The only issue is that it isn't a total reboot. It has a lot of holdovers from the dceu and is already a very established world. So it might not feel like a fresh start reboot.
@indulgencerofindulgence59703 ай бұрын
I actually think have been better if they ditched the cinematic universe and just focused on stand alone sagas and trilogies.
@comixproviderftw_023 ай бұрын
Black Adam, the movie that bombed so hard it gave The Rock a mental breakdown and tried to sabotage the main event of Wrestlemania 40. (And he thought he was gonna get a Black Adam Cinematic Universe out of it 😂)
@Alf-gm7tf2 ай бұрын
How much you wanna bet Warner was paying those celebrities to say those things about the flash.
@blitzeleven19793 ай бұрын
One of the dumbest articles I’ve read on the flash movie before it was released that the head costume designer said that “Ezra miller performance is so good that you would forget about all there crimes” like that’s not how that works, all these celebrities saying this movie is good were definitely being paid off, I’ll believe if Martin Scorsese says and I’ll still won’t believe it.
@mdpeterson273 ай бұрын
Great post. Funny thing is black Adam made $67 mill its opening weekend. Damn good for a C level character people barely know. But that 2nd weekend’s terrible word of mouth devastated it.
@slackstarfish81333 ай бұрын
I can’t be the only person who clearly sees why the Batman and joker were so successful. Because they DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. People can watch the trailers for those movies and instantly feel interested in them because they feel more mature, visually they are filmed with WAYYY more care put in, they have atmosphere. The cinematography is actually good. Whether people realize it or not, they are tired of the green screen CGI-everything slop fest that superhero movies have become. So when they get something different, it sticks with them. Marvel has doubled down on green screen, and people really wonder why every movie feels the same. Why do you think Guardians of the Galaxy was so successful? It was one of the first superhero movies with a true comedic tone, it had James Gunn unique visual style, and the music choices in the movie were amazing. It seems like James Gunn is aware of how important identity is to the success of these movies so I am cautiously optimistic about his leadership.
@kevinharkin83342 ай бұрын
2:41 The biggest failures is Dawyne Johnson as Black Adam because he is very cheeky to james gunn and Zachary Levi
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
I only enjoyed Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Shazam. That's it. 3 films.
@NeonPlanes3 ай бұрын
Honestly though unless you're about 30 or just a huge Batman fan, you had no idea why George Clooney was at the end of Flash. You probably thought he was just his real life self lol
@bigbearkat20103 ай бұрын
Just because we like to pretend Batman and Robin doesn't exist, doesn't the younger audience doesn't know about it
@meltedcopper92473 ай бұрын
Elseworld's Finest a batman superman film labeled the flash... no reverse flash no flash rogues no flash actor cameos.. but a dead superman a never was superman both appear in the flash....a miss labeled film
@andrewarcher24933 ай бұрын
Gunn's suicide squad failed all round the block, even physical sales were a disaster
@Cashmoneez3 ай бұрын
Honestly, worst superhero flop ever is pretty impressive considering shit like Shaquille O’neal in Steel exists ☠️
@fr0ck3603 ай бұрын
I’m so glad WB never touched Monsterverse. The fact that WB technically owned both of them is hilarious
@alfredborden56753 ай бұрын
The future Superman films should be filled with hope AAANNNDDD optimism... just like the Christopher Reeve Superman films. For example.....Reeve's Superman choked his evil twin to death in Superman 3. He killed Nuclear Man in Superman 4. He took Zod 's powers away, made him human, broke every bone in his hand, choked him, then threw him against the walls of the Fortress of Solitude as he sank down to the arctic. Superman 2 theatrical version didn't specify of Zod died but critics didn't complain anf cry about Superman killing back then. They should have cried like we do today. We need more hope like when Reeve's Superman gave up being a hero in his second film, took away his own powers, said "HAVEN'T I DONE ENOUGH"?, so he could sleep with Lois. I especially loved when he went to the diner at the end of Superman 2, and beat up a human truck driver when he got his powers back. He broke a pinball machine with that trucker's head🤣. I loved when Reeve's Superman peeked through Lois' blouse and said "it's pink" in reference to her underwear. Not awkward at all if you brought your child to see the film or watch it with them on TV at home. Nothing fills me with more hope & optimism than watching Superman smile at the camera as John Williams theme plays even though 7 minutes prior to that we watched Lois sinking into the Earth while being crushed within her car as her mouth filled with dirt during her horrific death scene. "Real DC fans" didn't even make 2006's Superman Returns go over 500 million whereas 2002's Spider-Man made 825 million. Where were "rEaL dC fAnS" For Superman Returns? 😂
@GenerationWest3 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention Aquaman 2, even though it's not the biggest bomb, but it still was the final embers of the DCEU, and that didn't hit as hard as they wanted with 7 bombs in a row. 2023 was pretty rough to every CBM... that wasn't GOTG3 or Spider-Verse.
@AzureReborn3 ай бұрын
Wait there was a sequel
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
What's crazy is that it still made the most money of all the final films in the DCEU. 😂
@yourarchnemesis84533 ай бұрын
You forgot ATSV.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp3 ай бұрын
@@yourarchnemesis8453 that movie was so mid
@yourarchnemesis84533 ай бұрын
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp still made money.
@CaptainMarvel4Ever3 ай бұрын
Black Adam used to be my favorite villain since I’m a big Captain Marvel fan, but now I can’t look at the character.
@mrkaji89133 ай бұрын
7:16 I liked it
@koushikraja3313 ай бұрын
I still remember when burton batman fans were comparing that the flush movie would make a billion because of Grandpapa Keaton and how it is similar to tobey and andrew.... Like wow, are they delusional😂😂😂
@LucasHopkins20063 ай бұрын
The DCEU is definitely one of the most impressive failures I’ve ever seen, they had basically everything they needed to succeed, most of the actors casted were great and starting later could’ve allowed them to improve in things Marvel may have screwed up by that point or in the future (though at least Gunn can do that now when he’s starting even later and worked with Marvel so he can improve on the things he experienced there), but WB in their infinite stupidity somehow found a way to mess it up over and over again (I still don’t get how Walter Hamada and all those other morons with DC thought that removing Superman and turning Batman into a Nick Fury-type role while replacing both of them with Supergirl and Batgirl instead of having the two of them be a part of their supporting casts like they’re supposed to be could’ve possibly been a good idea)
@heathmiller95333 ай бұрын
Green lantern better be a central figure in the dcu pleassee 🙏🙏
@Walupeach45283 ай бұрын
There's gonna be a green lantern show called lanterns
@heathmiller95333 ай бұрын
@@Walupeach4528 hope it’s good
@theinvictussamaritan47783 ай бұрын
I still can’t believe that after a decade of development, Dwayne Johnson said THAT script was the one they would use. I forgot who the villain was the day after I saw it. I loved the Flash, though. The CGI should’ve been better, but that’s beating a dead horse; everything else works for me.
@qaim.r.7413 ай бұрын
Snyder, The Rock and Ezra all have the same problem, one trick pony, Snyder for his "direction", the rock for being a bad actor that plays himself everytime, and Ezra for repeating the same crimes and expecting different results
@PR1ME983 ай бұрын
I hear so many people say “just do what marvel is doing” But here’s the thing… Marvel PLANNED their stuff YEARS AHEAD!!!! As a matter of fact, they were working on/filming IW and EG while doing the all of the prior movies too. Marvel had an actual structure and plan.
@BCRivers3 ай бұрын
The fact that Dwayne Johnson tried to reboot the universe where Black Adam, of all characters, would serve as the main protagonist, main antagonist, and connective tissue all at once.
@weebmeister-harry3 ай бұрын
Yea Dc had a rough decade, with Zack Zynder & his d-riders the rock & WB meddling. But now everything seems ok and I’m actually looking forward 2 DC projects again. Hopefully Gunn delivers (I feel like he will) and bring DC back from the trenches a lil bit
@ii-mp1sp3 ай бұрын
Justice League 2021 is one of the best superhero movies I've ever seen. They won't do better.
@KingOfTheTrolls3 ай бұрын
Flash did better than The Marvels 😏
@realamerican80693 ай бұрын
Aquaman 2 was awful!
@eliteghost10013 ай бұрын
The dceu was a mess and wb didn't know what they were doing and they dont even know their own property heck they dont even have faith in superman or the other characters to make a game
@shamimaahmadkhandaker14223 ай бұрын
Summary 1 dceu That's it
@chrisszostek67003 ай бұрын
The main problem was having Snyder a very divisive director at control.. you’d have to be stupid to later find out his dceu was divisive 🤦♂️
@mattsell23613 ай бұрын
I ain’t gonna lie Tom cruise praising the flash tricked me into thinking it was gonna be good and then I was immediately disappointed watching it😂
@josep7543 ай бұрын
The dceu was a mess, stumbling from mistake to mistake while randomly releasing unconnected movies, the "dark" aesthetics really didnt fit dc and the ways the characters had to be bent to fit in made it no favours.