Mercedes, don't be mad. But... - Mercedes EQS 2022

[@1FelixxileF1]

I have never seen a review that said: "I like the capacitive touch buttons over regular buttons" so at this point I don't know why manufacturers still think those are nice and a good idea.

[@Tyradominus2000]

CHEAP

[@CliffordChang-v8c]

Its cheap and it looks cool in the advertisements

[@Jezee213]

I know right!! it's the worst of both a button and touch screen, easy to accidentally touch and no physical feedback other than vibration maybe.

[@sergiogsr]

Because its cheaper and easier you can define functions later by SW. That doesn't make it right BTW.

[@DctrGizmo]

They're always bad no matter what the price range is.

[@zollotech]

Yep…the capacitive buttons are ridiculous in a car at that price. The whole thing reminds me of a Blackberry Storm.

[@misterdragzon]

I blame Audi/VW Group for pushing them for years

[@Erevos85]

Capacitive buttons are ridiculous in any car.

[@LordWaldema]

Man I love the split second that Alex could keep a straight face when Dennis said "I want to feel the balls"

[@chrisogrady28]

Could?

[@LordWaldema]

@@chrisogrady28 I mean probably until his brain processed what he just heard

[@markusnl]

8/10 didn’t quite go deep enough

[@gmourao]

Dude. Wtf. Dennis is hitting on him?

[@tetra1974]

🤣 hahaha

[@JohnIrwin]

Mercedes: we've spent millions developing a full screen gamer style virtual heads up display that actively overlays direction arrows over the road LTT: turn it off

[@marcogenovesi8570]

nobody wants this bs, give us back phyisical buttons and dials

[@piobu5357]

HUD is a useful thing, if done right. I get everything I need there in my Mazda, and since the infotainment screen is on the same level, and I can operate it with the physical rotary wheel without looking, I almost never need to look down, and take my eyes off the road. Easy to use and safe.

[@Katojana]

@@marcogenovesi8570 I totally would love a HUD capacity touch tho? no thanks

[@JohnIrwin]

For reference, this is what the tech looks like. kzbin.infoUgkxQK_wkJi7BbXB9135aFaquiehajBjSU0M I don't disagree that capacitive controls are an issue, but I'd still like to have seen this aspect of the vehicle being reviewed by this channel

[@kornkernel2232]

@@piobu5357 Yeah HUD is great especially when done right. I believe every car should have it really, even Tesla Model 3 where there is nothing on your peripheral vision when looking at the road. It will be far more futuristic that Tesla wants than just having single touchscreen on the middle. But still physical buttons and dials should be mandatory. I never thought capacitive touch is really for cars, we don't feel it. Unless they somehow developed really insane haptics that surpasses Apple. Just don't go capacitive, we have enough touchscreen already and even that I would have some physical navigation controls since it is not safe to use touchscreen that has the UI change every context or even every update. Touchscreen works great on phones and tablets because we directly look at it, not when driving.

[@furykillerBZ]

The most important part of this video is Alex continuing to roast companies over the uselessness of touch controls in a car. The best part of this video is bringing Dennis in as the massage expert

[@kornkernel2232]

We need Dennis for every car featuring massage feature, or even for comfort ones.

[@andreastyrberg7556]

@@kornkernel2232 The wonders of Intel tech upgrade. Now LTT have a meme massage expert that hopefully will test every massage feature they meet. Love it

[@avieshek]

@@andreastyrberg7556 A smart vibrator too, perhaps?

[@michaelgiles9721]

Fun fact: The rear cup holder being “jammed” is intentional. You press it in once for a pen holder, and a second time for the cup holders. Kinda strange but that’s what it is.

[@Dubfiance]

why on earth would you need a pen holder?

[@Naturalhighz]

@@Dubfiance to hold your pens obviously

[@njguy2]

@@Dubfiance I think it is a phone holder, not a pen holder.

[@noveled_1]

@@njguy2 use a pocket and put the cup holder in the inside, exposed, of the armrest like every other car and forget the stupidity of the mechanics and forget making it more expensive just for the car to "feel" more expensive.

[@alexandervanslooten5016]

I think Alex' perspective is really refreshing compared to other automotive reviewers. However, I doubt the EQS' customer base shares/recognizes much of his criticism. Alex seems to really value the characteristics of a hot hatch / sportscar, whereas this car is everything but that.

[@noobssindcool]

S-Class are really focused on a comfortable and luxurious driving experience and not for racing

[@kinch_evl]

It looks like an overgrown Neon.

[@dellonia]

Mercedes has never made sport cars by itself. Only AMG is transforming mercedes cars into sport alternatives. AMG was purchased by Mercedes, but remained independent, so they can modify as much as they want mercedes cars (in some cases they even redesigned entire engines). Hence, when mercedes designs a car, it is not to race, but for conform and safety.

[@mattsnyder4754]

I mean. 1, he does mention that MULTIPLE times during the video that sport driving isn’t the focus of the car. And 2, his biggest criticism, responsive and smooth braking, is - if anything - a more significant problem in a luxury car.

[@eduardosanchez7827]

Brakes shouldn’t have a weird pedal feeling. This is something notices by almost every car reviewer out there. Also, using touch controls on the steering wheel is no luxury experience at all. It’s a lame attempt by MB to lower the price

[@advitgarg399]

Every time shortcircuit drops a video on an ev, i am reminded of 3 things 1) Alex drives a golf GTX 2) Alex is over 6 feet tall 3) Car manufacturers are forgetting the very basics of making a car and butchering practicality for gimics

[@prateekpanwar646]

If VW makes Golf RTX, Instant sold.

[@kuebby]

The reason I'll be driving my 04 4Runner until it dies, probably in the 2030s.

[@EdwinDPZ]

"Is that deep enough for you?" "I don't feel the balls" Oh lordy

[@chrisogrady28]

A transcription from my bedroom

[@nasjho420]

thats what she said

[@aaz1992]

Lmao

[@whygamewhy]

"I want to feel a bit of pain"

[@konigderwelt2174]

I had the chance to test the EQS. I agree with a lot of what you said. One thing I did like about the car is that with inteligent recuperation, I basically didn't need to brake. The driving assistance feels helpful more often than it feels annoying. Which was a first for me.

[@TechboyUK]

I really like Alex's reviews. He talks about the things that matter when driving a car 👍

[@devyncoyer1942]

Haha yeah the real Short Circuit 🙄

[@MetalLead]

Imagine a world where the reviewer only tries to track this thing! 6k lbs lol

[@BaskuraCorp]

Alex on cars is highly entertaining!

[@snjert8406]

Heck yeah! Fully agree, also his videos when he builds something on the main LTT channel. Those are also super fun to watch

[@Austin-ts4th]

The cup holder in the back wasn't jammed, it was designed that way. The first click is a pen holder then you give it a half click to get the cup holders. Not sure why its like that but it is what it is. Having the lumbar controls in the screen allows you to adjust the lumbar to a more specific spot to help pinpoint specific spots. The MBUX infotainment is very intuitive and easy to use. Yes there are a lot of sub menus but its easy to figure out.

[@Fulvica133]

Andy: "Hey Mercedes" Mercedes:"How can I help?" Andy:"I want to go home" Mercedes:"Oh, wry, Gods" Andy and Alex:"What was that" It was the funniest part of the video!!!

[@noxious8]

Maybe the car got it that they don't like to drive - because they want to 'go'?

[@michaelthomas3646]

maybe the car thought Andy meant China, and the car was thinking water and electronics don't mix!! either that or the number of charging ponts it would have to calculate it would need to find in a working condition, and the number of weeks it would take to charge to get to China!! haha

[@abrahamolvera3491]

Its like we watched the same video or something

[@Paveynator]

Maybe a bit flip lol or it’s sentient?

[@EnsignLovell]

Was it just me or did it kinda sound like the car was mocking his heritage... Probably just me.

[@Neekzu]

1:16 Expensive 2022 Mercedes still having lagging displays is truly unacceptable.

[@LPRD]

It looks a lot better irl. Not that laggy

[@serrael-182]

Im remember a vw tiguan like 14 years ago. I already asked myself back theb when theyll have a infotainment system that actually responds in realtime. :D

[@BadMax02_VR]

12:54 i think you guys colored either the graph or the legend of the EQS and S90 in the opposite colors, because it shows the EQS in purple having very good sub bass and the S90 with less bass below 40hz

[@Nullpersona]

Some shots showing the car testing and readouts together might be interesting, or help ensure accuracy during continuity checks of the script and what's shown.

[@dylanevans5644]

@@jinkim89 Yea agreed, I did pause but unless you are a real audio nerd it's all a little meaningless. Alex is talking about the audio in the background, which I missed as I was pausing and then playing and reading, so lost what he was saying. If his scipt was laid out to use the labs data as a reference it would be better - so "Overall I enjoyed the audio in the car, it feels like it lacks a little bass response in more bass heavy tracks and this is backed up by the data from LTT Labs you can see here *insert graph* - a more in depth explanation can be found at the LTT Labs link in the description" Just dumping these data sets in requiring a pause is complete changing how their viewers are having to interact with the video (IMO in a worse way) which I think they still need to work on. Even the editors notes in this video were so quick I had to skip back multiple times - they are funny and I like reading them (especially the bit about hitting a person on the road and being "dumb that you can't do it") but dang do they go quick.

[@MichaelAW17]

@@dylanevans5644 This!

[@labman472011]

The LTT Lab notes were a nice touch! Really enjoyed the extra info!

[@HolybasilYT]

The thing I really like about these car "reviews", ignoring Alex, because he is a delight every time we get to see him. Is that you bring on different, connoisseurs if you will to discuss certain features. Loved seeing Dennis in this one.

[@NikTek]

The Devil: I like nobody The guy who decided capacitive touch controls on a steering wheel is a good idea* The Devil: That's my boy

[@jivewig]

2:38 for those confused, yeah it’s 107, not 170

[@RealWorldReview]

“So much capacity” really confused me because 80-100kw doesn’t sound like a lot, so 170 looked insane. I would say 107kw is like a 4800 mah battery. Pretty normal.

[@concinnus]

Looks like they also got the Volvo and EQS lines switched at 12:55.

[@AlexanderPavel]

@@RealWorldReview Yeah, 170kWh with only 350mi range would be terrible.

[@Gellis12]

Hey, I met Andy at a quick charger after they shot this video! To be honest, I never would have guessed that the car cost that much from when I saw it; even on the outside, it just seems kinda like a cheap VW with a bit of a facelift. Though to its credit, the underglow and ground-projected logo that appears when you open the doors was actually kinda cool and managed to not look tacky the fact that they block you from getting under the hood is ridiculous though, stuff like this is exactly why we need tougher right to repair legislation.

[@user-ce5oh4bp4l]

The question is: What do you want to repair yourself on a EV like this with a lot of high voltage systems and parts that were designed to the extreme to match the high airflow design (and compact design under the hood)?

[@Gellis12]

@@user-ce5oh4bp4l the cabin air filter, for one. There's also the brake fluid reservoir hidden under the plastic panel, and a bunch of other basic maintenance stuff.

[@levygaming3133]

@@Gellis12 50:50 that’s where the 12v battery is, that or the trunk. Also probably have to pop the hood to make brake work easier.

[@axelsundelin4171]

At 12:54 there seems do be an error. According to the context given by Alex and the previous graph I think the colors of the graphs for EQS and S90 were switched. Otherwise great information from ltt labs!

[@Captain_Coleslaw]

Minus the audio dip. Thats fully intentional, when you pull up to a light, or come to a junction, or a car is in your blindspot. The car will lower the volue slightly so you automatically become more aware of your surroundings... And you can turn it off btw

[@thecanmanification]

On the previous slide they said ESQ instead of EQS too. I don’t think they proof read the labs report lol

[@__dm__]

and they spelled frequency wrong

[@MichaelAW17]

I think this was a pretty poor showing from LTT labs. Data was displayed too quickly and too much was given.

[@michealpersicko9531]

@@MichaelAW17 Ok and the 7 people this information pertains to can pause the video and read it there's no reason to make the part of the video containing useless information a good majority of the people watching don't give a shit about drag along just to give the handful of people that do car about that info a chance to read it

[@Kitteh.B]

YES I LOVED THE LABS GRAPHS! That has me SO pumped for seeing results on audio equipment, it's my favorite part of looking up Rtings reviews!

[@Jur1_00]

I started smiling when he talked about bringing a massage expert because I knew who it was 😂

[@handlemonium]

Who?

[@simonezini5944]

@@handlemonium Dennis. Watch his intel extreme tech upgrade

[@Jur1_00]

@@simonezini5944 there's also the massage gaming chair he unboxed on shortcircuit

[@Mr3ppozz]

Same ! Loved that he brought on Dennis because Dennis has a funny way of explaining things xD point in case; I wanna feel da balls ! XD

[@handlemonium]

@@Jur1_00 ah yes, Mr. need-my-back-feet-torso-massage-scarf-with-attached-armrests Dennis.

[@mrfourtwenty6082]

Well I drove the eqs aswell and also found the brake feel a little weird. But you can actually change the regenerative braking with the "shift pedals" so just using one pedal driving is very usable. Also I missed the sub base but maybe because I am just a 19 year old bass lover. Overall this is a very nice car for S class customers that drive for themself and maybe have a assistant always next to them. Kinda like a youtuber that travels a lot with their cutter/cameraman. It feels like its very well tuned for german roads and autobahn where you can use the great fast charging network of europe. In the US and Canada it's probably pretty lost for this, with a lack of really fast chargers. It's not a car to daily to work rather to travel from city to city

[@MitsumaYT]

I think I know why the capacitive touchbuttons move. Feels like they tried to struck a middle ground between buttons and touch. So you know when you pressed it. Of course it seems to fall flat by the point that you still have to actually look where you press...

[@David-jl7cz]

we knew this was a bad idea when blackberry released the storm.

[@concinnus]

Since you have to look, you can tell when you've pressed it. But if it has to move to register, it protects against (some) accidental touch.

[@rullerr]

Seeing the labs graphs come up for the audio was so great. Really looking forward to seeing this kind of detail and review data/normalization when discussing products.

[@Neoxon619]

The screen makes me wonder, how will the Apple CarPlay update work with this car? Also, I love how Dennis was the one to judge the message function given his Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade.

[@_framedlife]

New UI is reserved for new cars. It will continue to use a slightly facelifted version of current UI

[@AshokkumarJakkula]

i dont think this car will get the update. the apple keynote said late 2023 cars, so.....

[@carholic-sz3qv]

@@AshokkumarJakkula i might actually get the update with need to plugin the iPhone, I think Mercedes’ uses nvidia chips for the infotainment or something like that.

[@skirata3144]

@@carholic-sz3qv I’ve never seen a German car manufacturer updating software when they do major OS updates. And opening up an api to read safety critical information and allowing it to also overwrite your dashboard with their own design is quite the major change if we go by the standards of German manufacturers.

[@Neoxon619]

@@AshokkumarJakkula Are you sure they didn’t mean late 2013 or later?

[@N0N0111]

5:31 OMG i almost died how perfect that was!

[@PolarPenguin]

Loved the labs stuff but can be kinda annoying to keep pausing the video to read. I am not saying you should remove it from the video all together, but maybe provide a transcript of the notes somewhere where it is easily readable, like a complementary blog or something.

[@wildwilie]

As soon as he talked about the adaptive breaking, I knew this isnt it. One thing almost everyone will hate is if your brake pedals isnt consistently smooth. Makes you feel so much less in control of the vehicle and much less safe.

[@user-ky1sv6ee7g]

👆👆Congratulations I got a surprise for you🎊🎉

[@Koda14]

I Have the adaptive regen braking enabled on my Hyundai EV and honestly once you're used to it it's fine. You learn to predict how it is going to respond depending upon what's in front of you and can respond appropriately. If the Mercedes version is anything like this, I would be more than happy to live with it.

[@wildwilie]

​@@Koda14 I'm not just trashing adaptive braking all together, I'm mostly talking about how alex is saying how he feels about it. I've test driven the Hyundai's with adaptive breaking and its feels a little odd at first but nothing alarming.

[@Punz18]

Fun fact: Mercedes has a patent on the sound it's car doors make when you close them

[@MtnCactus]

Its probably a trademark! Patents are usually technological ideas

[@Gruntled2001]

🤮 I hope they trademarked the 4-5 digit numbers that their average repairs usually run. There is a sucker born every day, and Mercedes is happy to cater to that market.

[@FaZekiller-qe3uf]

The possessive form of "it" is “its”, not the contraction “it’s”. The latter means “it is”.

[@mydimeisup5103]

@@Gruntled2001 My opinon: I don't think German cars are half bad if you can repair them yourselves. I have a 2013 Audi allroad with 152k miles and in the 2 years I've owned it I've only spent about 2k on it. I did timing chains since they're known to stretch and grenade the engine (this is a maintenance item), brake pads, suspension control arms, motor mounts, etc. all the normal stuff for every other car except timing chains. Timing chains were 2k job at local mechanic, 3.5K at dealer. I did it for $490. If you're getting an E46 with the v8 with rod bearings that wear every 100k miles then yeah you're a sucker for a cool car, but most of them aren't that bad.

[@robertp457]

@@mydimeisup5103 No one buys a luxury brand to save money.

[@robertbrown7563]

I have now owned my EQS 580 for about 13 months, and I like it much better than my 2017 S550. It is smoother, quieter and more responsive than old S class, and its interior is every bit or more cosetting. The sound system is top notch. It is by no means a sport vehicle, but it is the perfect vehicle for long, comfortable drives on surface roads and major highways. The somewhat unusual brake pedal movement is not in fact a problem because it very quickly becomes second nature. The adaptive crise is excellent and the anticipatory nature of "intelligent recuperation" takes the stress out of city driving. On the "strong recuperation" setting with the "creep mode" disengaged, the car is a very competent "one pedal" machine. The Intelligent recuperation mode is much more sophisticated and efficient, however. Combined real world range is about 325-360 miles in the summer and 260-280 miles in a Northeast US winter with the heat on. My average range over about 20,000 miles has been 281 miles. Of course, highway driving is less efficient that city driving because of wind resistance. The range is excellent for long trips even through charger deserts like the 250 mile stretch through in central Pennsylvania USA The haptic controls are very easy to use, and their combination with a relatively sophisticated voice recognition system make operating the vehicle a breeze. There is no need for knobs and buttons. Because of supply chain problems in mid 2022, I was unable to get some options like auto-close doors and the fragrance system. I am looking forward to adding those features and whatever else has been developed on the next EQS version (perhaps the facelift). I drove the EQS with the Tesla Model S prior to my purchase, and by comparison with the EQS, driving the Tesla is like riding around in a sardine can. We almost never take people for long rides in the back seat, but our friends have found sitting in the back quite an opulent experience. The huge space under the lift back gives the car substantially more utility than our top of the marque, mid-sized SUV Of course, the absence of ICE stench and noise combined with the speed convenience of at home charging, qualities shared with other EVs, is an unmitigated blessing.

[@therevanchist1123]

My first TownHouse was 119k… that about sums up my thoughts on this. Also I imagine this in a commercial with Shaq saying it’s got plenty of room with him getting inside and his head sticking out of the sunroof 😅

[@spiderjerusalem6887]

119k? Ah yes, the Before-Trudeau times.

[@springrollpapi]

that same townhouse probably goes on the market now for about a million

[@emiledhaene1297]

@@spiderjerusalem6887 ah yes, trudeau, the sole reason housing is up across the whole world

[@davisbradford7438]

@@spiderjerusalem6887 It's not just a Canadian problem. We are now ahead of the 2007 housing crisis in terms of housing cost compared to median income in the USA as well.

[@korndud]

@@spiderjerusalem6887 how dumb do you have to be to think it's trudeau's fault. you think house prices are going to dramatically decrease if there was a conservative in power? lmao

[@georgelopez9411]

12:54 The S90 and EQS colors are inverted. Love the Lab notes integration

[@malteroeper3723]

The 170KWh showed would really be absolutely crazy capacity ^^

[@dylanza]

It’s 107kw he was wrong

[@neverendinghobbies]

He said 107 they showed 170 on the screen

[@robindas1207]

170kw but only 2 miles per KW kinda low

[@jacksontint]

The text on screen for the battery capacity said 170kWh when it should be 107.8kWh

[@-Eduard-]

Oof ... the short flash of the BMW iX was like a jump scare with that grill xD

[@catbertz]

Oh 100%! I literally groaned out loud. 🤣🤣

[@radicalrick9587]

*I half expected a big BOOM! when he started to open that hood.*

[@BabyShotgun]

That Dennis massage tips part was ripe for some low hanging innuendos.

[@jstan5802]

At that point it's no longer even innuendos lol

[@NTGuides]

BTW guys the battery capacity is 107Kwh not 170Kwh

[@marv7907]

Love this test! And I love to see that you show the frequency graphs for the audio systems. This was the first time I saw this. Here in Germany the EQS is at the moment the best of all according to some car journalists. But they didn’t show the touch capacitive steering buttons or the cheaped out buttons or talk about the difference between base model and equipt model. And sometimes thy praise the software. But what you showed doesn’t look like even close to be the best. In my opinion this is overall a great car. But in certain spots it doesn’t live to it price batch.

[@benwu7980]

I believe it's the debut of featuring Labs content.

[@reyods]

It's actually quite funny how German car reviewers bash on cars from the US like the Mach E, and American channels complain about cars like the iX. But I totally agree with you. Magazines like "Auto Motor Sport" have always been quite biased, especially towards Mercedes. Don't get me wrong, Merc has made a really interesting car, but things like the buttons were not discussed (or only briefly), so it's kinda nice to see someone mention them. Especially the steering wheel buttons. Whos idea was that, that's so stupid.

[@Mr.Morden]

"Journalists" don't exist anymore, these days it's just people on the payroll writing "reviews" padded with talking points and sales pitches. It's the same thing as fake Amazon reviews.

[@ContraVsGigi]

I think he messed those graphs, they are reversed. There is a comment about that.

[@djhokage1]

120k for a car in Germany. "best of all" lol.

[@user-pv6qk6rm2u]

The EQS is with the new S-Class one of the worlds first cars with a real autopilot. In Germany you can already try it out.

[@eamonjun]

god damn we need more of dennis

[@jstan5802]

He likes it so deep that he can feel a bit pain

[@tramcrazy]

Uses for the Lab: 1) Driving cars into the warehouse for an indoor car filming space 2) Running a LAN party and pop-up screwdriver store

[@greyant7069]

Love alex's review and the lab notes ! Really great review !

[@soerenbo]

The title of the video perfectly describes the problem with this video, Alex actually didn't understand the targetgroup of the EQS. The owners are the same as for the classic S-Class, rich (older) people and CEOs who want to drive or be driven absolutly hassle free and with the most comfort possible. It's a luxury cruiser, not a Tesla Model S "sportssaloon" rival. The EQS is an absolute master piece in most of the stuff the target audience wants, and that has been the case for the S-Class as well for many, many years. Alex describes it as "not the best" driving experience, but it's just not made to be engaging and fun, instead it's made to just flow. I think he mostly just stepped a little bit too much out of his typical zone and tried to propose his expectations on what a car should be on this, instead of seeing it as what it is supposed to be. I definetly get some/most of the other critical points (especially the capacitive touch), i'm not here to overly praise the car, it has its flaws, even some big ones! I just felt like Alex missed some points because of his personal point of view.

[@simonrothmann]

In Germany they were the first to implement level 3 automated driving with this one and the s class. You definitely should take a trip down here and try it. It’s freaking amazing.

[@s.i.m.c.a]

eeh...sorry, but i still like to be in control and not being hacked, while in automated mode, in a poorly secured Mercedes

[@jambio3162]

@@s.i.m.c.a lol

[@Captain_Coleslaw]

@@s.i.m.c.a Mercedes are the ONLY manufacturer to develop thier security FULLY in house... And thier operating system is also made fully by themselves, with the hardware being made by Nvidea.... They are just about the safest when it comes to hacking

[@BritishTeaLover]

@@Captain_Coleslaw Just a point, but proprietary does not mean secure. It means that it hasn't been tested by too many other groups, and very few will have validated it. Doesn't mean it's insecure either, but it's not a plus. Security through obscurity won't work for very long once the system becomes more common. There's a reason why open-source stuff is considered to be more secure for most use cases, since it gives so many people a chance to break it that you either find the flaws, or have it proven how secure it is. Hence why most encryption standards are open-source.

[@B_R_E_I_Z_H]

@@Captain_Coleslaw my rule of thumb is generally : if it ain't open source and it hasn't yet been stress tested by actual hackers, then you have no reason to trust it

[@frollard]

So much traditional automaker feel crammed into a futurecar that as you say it just seems to break stuff. Editors: Awesome topgear/grandtour vibes on the glamour b-roll delivering the feel of driving while also being interesting. Awesome work.

[@setayo7639]

Here's one thing I'm not entirely clued up about that bugs me.... They claim that EV cars look slightly weird because they need to have less drag coefficient and aerodynamics... But why aren't they making ICE cars as aero efficient as possible? We could of been having ICE cars that looked like these that would be getting better mileage for years now right?

[@theproffessional9]

Because gas car drivers don't care about efficiency. *Ahem* 20% efficiency *Ahem*

[@setayo7639]

@@theproffessional9 I would expect it to be a whole money scheme where many suited individuals hold many flavoured pies, but there are some cars like the honda insight? I think it's that one with some modification people claim to be getting 90+mpg

[@cagatayy1182]

Most ICE cars have a grill at the front for engine cooling. That should be changing the air flow a lot

[@setayo7639]

@@cagatayy1182 oh yeah that would affect it quite a bit, but there is definitely some clever ways to cool such as BMWs active grilles that open and close as required for a workaround

[@hullabaloo9072]

Most high mileage sedans look kind of like this already. For ice engines luxury cars could be hideously inefficient because Rick people didn’t care about mileage, but Rick people do care about range on EVs

[@kbhasi]

According to Doug DeMuro's review, the quirk with the rear seat cup holders is intentional. It's for quick access to a pen.

[@KalleKilponen]

Yeah, one press: Pen holder, two presses: Cup holders

[@CH-bn7qb]

The reason they don’t want you to open the hood is because they scrimped on the paint job 🤣

[@Victor-vj5ds]

It doesn't matter how big the battery is when it comes to charge time, you can always increase the charge current as long as you have sufficient cooling. A 50kwh battery and a 100kwh battery will charge in the same time under a 1C load.

[@tavajava]

would love to start seeing write ups of the LTT labs data with the accompanying video as it can be hard to appreciate the data in a video format

[@prateekpanwar646]

13:36 If you reduce front grill design, It'll look like tata tiago. I actually like this design it's botton grill is similar to AMG One. It feels like a grill is there but hey didn't add fake grill which increases drag. It seems to be good balance btw reducing drag and keeping aesthetic.

[@PatiShorti]

The LTT Labs measurements and comments are great! Love it!

[@user-wt1gg8fx8o]

LTT Version of Top Gear. LOVE IT. NEED MORE.

[@user-ky1sv6ee7g]

👆👆Congratulations I got a surprise for you🎊❤🎉

[@alhollywood6486]

Unless you're Linus....😂😂

[@alecfortin6958]

Alex is genuinely really good at these reviews. I’m an avid car guy and tech guy and I really like how he blends both coming from LTT.

[@user-ky1sv6ee7g]

👆👆Congratulations I got a surprise for you🎊

[@flapjack30000]

Great review and amazing editing! You guys have come a long way since the first car reviews and its really showing, can't wait to see where you'll be in the next few months!

[@mikegoggin570]

I've watched all of these electric car reviews and just wanted to say that I love seeing Alex review these cars. I had no idea there were so many electric cars on the market and I'm glad someone is taking the time to find out how good or bad they are so I don't have to.

[@mydimeisup5103]

As a car guy I love this review. I love my ICE engines. I love my V8s and Audi supercharged 3.0T v6 however I'm excited to see what electric counterparts we can have along side ICE for the average non-car guy/gal. I was expecting this to be like every other tech channel's review of electric cars "Ohh big screen. Ohh technology. Ohh this!" but you very critical of options being hidden in infotainment, Mercedes' effort to stop customers working on their own car, and the capacitive buttons and lack of physical controls, especially climate controls. I've tried cars with climate controls in a screen and it doesn't work. Physical controls are just miles better (pun intended). Thank you for a real review of the car as a whole and not just looking at the shiny screens and technology.

[@JCUDOS]

8:23 Is this yours? Whose remix is that? I love it!

[@BrianLewis515]

I want to know too

[@tagg8233]

I think it must be, Shazam doesn’t know it. But it is a pretty simple mashup of Bizet’s Habanera with Something Called Karma. Pretty cool tho

[@cabrge]

Took me some digging but I'm pretty sure it's Something Called Karma (c) on apmmusic

[@JCUDOS]

@@cabrge Thanks!

[@jonasboekema8619]

My dad is in his fifties and recently bought an EQS. I think he's the perfect audience for this car, he's had his sports cars but now he just wants to drive around in luxury in an electric car. And it really is pure luxury, sitting in this car feels like you're floating on the road in absolute silence.

[@Raaaphael]

We have an S- class. The driving experience in those cars is just amazing!

[@TomF1F1Gameplaysandmore]

How nice is it being rich?

[@WybremGaming]

Plastic crappy buttons, shit tier Android system that doesn’t work, ugly cheap design. I’m sorry but this isn’t luxury.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

paid comment brought to you by Mercedes

[@jonasboekema8619]

@@TomF1F1Gameplaysandmore not bad

[@Brandon-dj9cq]

8:29 forget the car, that's a cool soundtrack, what is it? (for anyone wondering, I think the remix song is from Maria Callas - Carmen (Habanera) (Chuy Ayala Remix) That's the closet remix I'm able to find, if someone can find the exact song, pls let me know

[@Killerpixel11]

The current S class will absolutely be better. But it depends on what you're reviewing, because that one is absolutely an executive's car. It won't corner. It won't go as the EQS does. If possible, I would like a little more time devoted to "EV stuff". How does it handle charging? Does it do the advertised power? Does it handle preconditioning? How is the route/charge planning (it's supposed to be really good in the EQ series) stuff like that. As a whole, having seen a number of reviews, I think the EQS should've been the EQE...and the current EQE should just not exist. Because this most definitely is NOT an S class, in no way. It's also worth a mention, that pretty soon the EQS (and the S class) will be the first production cars you can order with actual, certified Level 3 autonomy capability according to EU regs. At least here in Germany , not sure about other markets. It'll be very limited (almost uselessly so) but it will be there.

[@antoniosteiger9443]

Holy moly, those lab notes are AMAZING!! But guys, I don't think it makes sense to just plonk those into the video unexplained. Completely explaining them is maybe overkill for shortcircuit, but maybe highly technical extended videos will become a thing?? :)

[@NealChauhan]

Alex is such a good host. I love this series

[@stanstatic]

I love that your test drive took you through the posh neighborhood where people are riding horses along a trail next to the road.

[@PaladinofRealm]

Love the LABS stuff really great for audio folks like me. Quick side note at 12:50 there's a spelling error in the top right corner.

[@njguy2]

There's no need to press the logo to open the rear hatch. You can just kick your foot under the rear bumper where there is a motion sensor to do that. I bought an EQS 450+ at msrp for a lot less money than the 580. The car offers so many things that you will not find with Lucid or Tesla, like Apple CarPlay, SiriusXM radio, a sunroof that actually opens for fresh air and the 4 wheel steering. There is also a shade on the sunroof. Almost any feature can be accessed by saying Hey Mercedes, including changing the color of the ambient lighting. With two years of free charging at Electrify America, I have had almost no cost in driving 4000 miles. With Plug and Charge, adding juice is as easy as a Tesla. My only problem was a low tire pressure alert that the dealer fixed in five minutes. You can only fit three golf bags in the back which was a little disappointment.

[@benjaminsmith3625]

Love the audio graphs! Having a labs website for the audio and colour data you collect will be great!

[@handlemonium]

"public database" please 👍

[@mrdzin1209]

11:49 "Hey Mercedes, do you cook rice?" *cue the most adorable laugh ever*

[@friddevonfrankenstein]

"Is this deep enough for you?" "I can't feel the balls, I want to feel the balls. I want to feel a little pain" That was EPIC! I can't stop laughing xD

[@divyam._.maheshwari]

THAT'S. WHAT. SHE. SAID.

[@LostScot]

Those windscreen wipers have a little notch at the end. Like it's smooth to 99% and then the last 1% happens after. I can't stop seeing it and it's driving me crazy.

[@theproffessional9]

I hate that there is no going under the hood, they're trying to iPhoneafiy cars "Fixing doesn't happen often, so fuck it let's make it hard and expensive as hell to fix the tiniest things and make excuse about how you might get hurt or damage something"

[@carholic-sz3qv]

I get that but seriously what are you going to to under the hood!? Apart from putting the windshield liquid what else would you do!? Nothing!!

[@skirata3144]

EVs just are inherently dangerous to fix by the owners themselves unless they belong to the relatively small group of people that can be trusted around high voltage electronics.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

@@skirata3144 exactly!! From the high voltage battery to the cables to the power electronics a non qualified person has litteraly nothing to do on EVs, you can watch Chris fix on KZbin on how to change the oils on your ICE vehicle and all the service at home but it’s a totally different case with EVs

[@kadenk.3760]

10:20 That's the most body roll I've ever seen aside from the Suzuki Samurai (which is known for rolling over)

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

Me in my 1997 sub compact hatchback, that cost me $1000, regardless of seating position: ah yes there is room for my head in here Alex in a brand new electric Mercedes that costs $123,000 USD sitting in the back: ah yes my head is against the roof and will slam into it if we hit a bump. I want electric vehicles to be available, especially in countries like this one where not owning a car puts you at a severe disadvantage due to lack of public transit, lack of bike paths, frequently long distances between residential and commercial zoning, and lack of sidewalks in high traffic areas. Well ideally I'd like all of those things to be fixed but since that's not gonna happen electric vehicle proliferation becomes important. Before someone like me would ever make that jump though they have to be 1)significantly less expensive 2)run as few things through a computer as humanly possible. I don't need heated seats, massage seats, a giant screen for satnav and stereo, a screen for a gauge cluster, or basically anything else that would reduce failure by not being so "futuristic". Not to be an old man here, but I've got no power steering, a manual transmission, crank windows, fully mechanical door locks, a key that doesn't require a chip to start the car, lights that have to be manually activated, a passable sound system, no ABS brakes, rotor ignition, and good fuel economy (34 city, 42 highway) and I like it.

[@user-ky1sv6ee7g]

👆👆Congratulations I got a surprise for you📦

[@NikHYTWP]

I think this is a car that works way better in its SUV version. The looks are improved A LOT and it becomes a great family car, that is good for road trips with a fantastic range. The only thing that's missing is an 800 volt battery and charging system, the Taycan which is on 800 volts charges from 5 to 80 percent in 15 minutes on a 350kW charger! Granted, it has a much smaller battery but there's still a 70kW difference in peak charging speed between the Taycan and EQS which is entirely due to the voltages of both cars.

[@jfolz]

The Labs analysis is cool, but I have to pause the video for a couple of minutes every second to actually take it all in and then rewatch it to actually hear what Alex had to say. The format needs work, guys.

[@Toastmaster_5000]

While I too hate capacitive touch buttons, it looks to me the "squishiness" was a deliberate design, maybe for those who like something a bit more tactile.

[@mustapha154]

I love your energy

[@MaverickBlue42]

Capacitive touch buttons are the best idea for driver safety, you know, when you have to take your eyes off the road and actually look at every button you want to press. Much better than the old days when you could just use the tactile feeling of the buttons to find them with your fingers, while keeping your eyes on the road, it's a wonder drivers that had to suffer through old style buttons aren't all dead by now.....

[@jerrycaidic08]

At least it doesn't suffer from porpoising.😏 Also, the "can you fit a body on inside the trunk" part. Very Top Gear-ish (the Clarkson, May, and Hammond version), very nice.

[@TheKing-fo4xo]

Love the ltt labs note. Cannot thank you guys enough. It is the greatest information addition about audio. Thank you very much.

[@shinokami007]

"hey mercedes" moment are priceless, love you guys :3 Thanks for the content, as always ;)

[@peperoni_pepino]

For the other non-Americans: Alex tells us he is 6 feet -> about 1.80 m. He recommends only sitting in the back if you are 5 foot 8 or less -> 1.72 m or less. (For reference, the average Dutch man is 1.81 m and the average Dutch woman 1.69 m; so generally, the backseats are only comfortable (and safe) for children and teens.)

[@maxzett]

I actually don't own a car. However I really really like your car reviews. I also don't even want to own a car, BUT for some reason I really enjoy watching the reviews. It's a bit refreshing from all the usual hardware, and it's actually interesting what cars are capable of these days in terms of tech. I honestly am more interested in the cars interior than exterior or performance metrics.

[@supermarioray1]

Throttle house and LTT are carrying my torch for my favorite Canadian car reviewers

[@pumpuppthevolume]

I want to see Linus review it ...it will be interesting if he has gotten already the tycan wagon as a daily

[@ggandalff]

He hasn't

[@pumpuppthevolume]

@@ggandalff yeah we would have heard about it if he had it

[@benwu7980]

@@pumpuppthevolume Still with the Volt.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

@@benwu7980 yeah that's the latest they showed about his car .....but he did say he bought the tycan wagon ....it's just not clear when he'll get it

[@benwu7980]

@@pumpuppthevolume He said yesterday hie's still driving the Volt, so not sure what up with the Taycan.

[@TorkildKahrs]

In fairness, the seat settings will be set to one of the three memory buttons on the door. It might be fiddly and annoying when you need to access it, but once the settings are saved it’s a nonissue.

[@joosteillebrecht1823]

Yes another great Alex car video :DDD

[@jessebrook1688]

Having lived in Surrey and Langley for a while. It's so much fun to see bits of it in this video.

[@steventhane9849]

3:03 “If we roll over I’d Die” I get the point and I am sure it would just be uncomfortable constantly having your head touching the roof, especially over bumps. But if they can’t roll a Telsa Model X, there is no chance of rolling this. Other than that fantastic review!

[@hazloner117]

Till you huck it around a corner on a mountain road, it understeers and hucks you off a cliff.

[@rishabhrawat7856]

I think they showed in a video that tesla Model X is just hard to roll or will get upright even if it gets rolled, it's not completely impossible

[@steventhane9849]

@@rishabhrawat7856 Of course it’s possible. Throw it fast enough sideways into sand and it will eventually flip. The point is they tested the Mode X at speeds well above the standardised tests, for a car with a much higher centre of gravity than this. With Alex’s comments on the cars handling, the likelihood of someone being able to get this car into a situation where it could roll (especially with passengers) is incredibly low.

[@GlitterGuru]

I've heard from several automotive project managers and engineers that capacitive buttons actually cost more to develop and aren't a cost-saving measure 🤯

[@sleepy_dobe]

I love cars, and I love PCs. LMG is perfect for me. And I especially love that you guys aren't afraid to be really critical of the cars you review. A lot of the traditional car magazines tend to be nice to the carmakers and not mark the cars down in areas where they are bad, probably for fear that they won't get sent future models for review. I know Linus doesn't give a rat's ass about that so hooray for us, consumers!

[@BillyBraga]

Nice to see the lab already bearing fruits with this frequency response graph and all the description with it! Good job!

[@NocturnalMarshmallowOrder]

North up navigation. I agree. Thank you Alex.

[@RodTuckwell]

This guy could start his own car review channel ... Really good!

[@jaredjantzi5915]

This is actually a really good review. Better than 99% of most auto journalists honestly.

[@egg-roll8968]

I feel the editor had a fair amount of fun with this one, also yes Alex we need context at 1:50! (I'm sure Alex isn't a sociopathy/psychopath however, so likely the latter)