MERGED in a massive dogfight | VR | IL2 Flying Circus Dogfighting

[@JakobM16]

Insane that people went up and did this, I have immeasurable respect for the forefathers of combat aviation.

[@CharveL88]

Especially when parachutes weren't even a thing yet and your wings were made of fabric and wood.

[@indyjons321]

You know, if I ever play this in VR, I’m going to use a fan. Lol

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

First time I ever tried VR (on a friend's setup), we did WarThunder with an open cockpit plane and I set up a fan... my brain instantly connected with the time I went up in a real Stearman... really added to the cognitive realism.

[@CharveL88]

Now make that a variable speed fan and feed IL2's airspeed indicator data to it over USB with a driver you get chatGPT to write up for you. 🤯

[@Taipan303]

Awesome, I just got back into the FC/WW1 stuff myself due to the new patch release. Even though there's so much action, it's kind of soothing flying these kits around dogfighting with no systems to worry about

[@indianajon7980]

Love rise of flight! Even if it has been subsumed by the devil! It being in vr adds a whole new element to it! Definitely want to see more.

[@Chio_OB]

IL2 is the best WW2 flight sim available, no doubt in my mind, which also makes it a perfect platform for WW1! Rise of flight was pretty good too...

[@garethroberts9223]

Absolutely Loved this! VR streaming works amazingly well!

[@Kalessin7]

Thanks

[@mitch_the_-itch]

VRnecksaver is a great little tool that lets you assign functions to look behind you in VR. While it kinda defeats the purpose of VR in my chair I simply couldn't turn my head enough.

[@CasmoTV]

Boy that makes my stomach lurch just thinking about it

[@mitch_the_-itch]

@@CasmoTV It has no impact in VR until you use it. You can create button assignments for it. You do really need to see behind you. In real life you have peripheral vision that VR doesn't accommodate for.

[@Silverhks]

@@CasmoTV It's not as bad as you think. It has both a snap view and an angle increase setting. I found the angle increase disorientating but others prefer it.

[@madigorfkgoogle9349]

why would you wanna cheat? I dont mind to lose fights to TrackIR "cheaters" the VR immersion is worth it...

[@Michelsen3K]

I've used the program for quite a while. But turned back to normal. It doesn't feel natural. But indeed it's very useful!

[@monostripeexplosiveexplora2374]

Most fun in multiplayer with big teams on each side!

[@nibbler2281]

Yeah, Davinci's stabilizing is amazing.

[@CasmoTV]

It’s good but I didn’t even end up using it for this one. In some ways it worked but others it didn’t.

[@nicki9knuckles]

Oh man, this was so much fun to watch. You guys are awesome. I can't hit anything haha

[@The81BeeKeeper]

IL2 is for me the best flight sim ever - i love to flight the wwii planes but after i saw your vid i really want to buy this addons too :-) thx for the vid

[@mikemontgomery2654]

Always nice to see good ROF content from a good pilot.

[@JimCook]

That first furball reminded me so much of Simguild's Flying Circus. Great stuff.

[@ColdWarAviator]

I swear, it seems like the bogeys kept purposely turning into the sun to try to lose you when you were engaging! I don't know if that's random or if the game code knows to do that 😂

[@CasmoTV]

The AI has come a LONG way in FC. when it first came out they would lazily turn to the side like Han “I know a few maneuvers” Solo evading a star destroyer in A New Hope.

[@johnleney9541]

I doubt it - the AI is infamously as dumb as a rock in FC

[@greenmarin3]

All the multiplayer videos I watch everyone rudder movement is so smooth almost like trim onto target. I have pedals but no matter what sensitivity I use they still bounce a little bit. Don’t know how everyone gets such smooth movements!

[@CasmoTV]

I feel like I’m all over the place too.

[@RKW1138]

Head on a swivel boys!

[@kokoeteantigha389]

Hope he had his neck muffler on. 😊

[@MrLolof1]

I love this realSimulator in VR with my HP G2 😍👍🏻👍🏻 Thank you Very much for this great vidéo 🇫🇷 Bye Aplushhs👍🏻

[@marklodge1918]

Love ww1/ww2 flight sims this looks awesome,SE5 great bit of kit

[@kokoeteantigha389]

You can see the difference radio communication would've done for those WW1 airmen. Dash it, many must've died who would've lived had radio been available to hear the shout "break, break, bogey on your tail!!"

[@OGSlimer-xq8mq]

What VR headset are you running? I highly recommend the ho reverb G2 due to it being native to Windows mixed reality

[@CasmoTV]

That’s what I have

[@DepartmentOfResults]

I have IL-2, but I haven't gotten into Flying Circus yet. It looks great.

[@Wrath_of_Dog]

One of the decisive advantages the RFC had was their two way radio communications😁

[@CasmoTV]

Encrypted as well.

[@HavocStylesJoe]

That one guy sounds like me. Awesome flying.

[@Delta2Echo]

That does look fun as hell

[@thomashiggins9320]

The courage of the men who flew the real thing in WWI bordered on insanity.

[@CasmoTV]

Facts

[@stumpusMaximus]

Nothing will ever beat Flying Corps. The daddy of WW1 Flight sms. I had all the knee maps of the trenches in the game box - non of this virtual, print the crap out yourself! It was in 3DFX as well - the original Flying Circus.

[@richardashurst8330]

This looks great in VR. I don't fly in VR much, but maybe I should give this a go :)

[@CasmoTV]

You should. You will literally cover your eyes for the sun.

[@Silverhks]

I really need to try FC. I'm stuck in ww2 atm though

[@Jbroker404]

way too many people deny WW1, being stuck in WW2. I was once one of them. Once I experienced a crazy WW1 dogfight, I was hooked!

[@ComdrStew]

Video looks awesome. SE-5 is a great plane. I still love the DR1, but it is a little slow.

[@Hjerte_Verke]

It's all the drag from 3 wings, actually 4 with the mini wing between the wheels. Plus the rotary engine was a dead end as far as making it more powerful

[@ComdrStew]

@@Hjerte_Verke The Red Baron test flew the D7 and that was the plane he was actually wanting to fly, when they sent them the DR1. If he would have got the D7, I think he would had been more deadly. I just love how fast the DR1 turns. Mostly to the right.

[@CanadianSmoke]

I love Flying Circus, but for added realism, cut the radio chatter... it makes it far more intense.

[@CasmoTV]

Yeah I’d like to try that sometime but the reality is we have other ways in real life to communicate that can’t be replicated in game so it’s a wash.

[@barbarossa1234]

Great game!

[@flipeecupsstuff7632]

I feel bad for the guy who parachuted into no man's land

[@adamwash917]

what vr headset do you use?

[@CasmoTV]

G2

[@M24Tom]

Sorry to ask but I don't see it in your hardware listing, what's your current VR headset? How active is the group flying in WW1?

[@CasmoTV]

G2. Not super active, we fly when we can.

[@VagabondTexan]

Now imagine doing all that with pretty much zero ability to communicate with anyone around you.

[@CasmoTV]

Imagine a LOT about that time period. It’s wild.

[@vielplaysdagames2298]

If you have never seen the movie aces high it’s worth a watch it’s about a se5 squadron in ww1 little dated but still very good

[@CasmoTV]

Hmm never have. I’ll check it out

[@MrGreatGeorge]

Looking nice!

[@WilliamClydeBSCS]

The only thing stopping me from playing this is the lack of support for touch controllers. I use them in X-Plane without issue, Warplanes as well.

[@CharveL88]

I think we need about another year before a decent enough VR headset that checks enough boxes is affordable. A couple have already broke that barrier but they're still too pricey. I played VR exclusively for about 3 years (mostly PC sims) including IL2:Sturmovik, which I played with TrackIR for about a decade, but it wasn't good enough for advanced sims really. I sold it off and picked up a Q2 for my daughter and figured it would be enough improvement to get back into IL2 but...no, not really. So, I've been playing pancake since then waiting patiently for a VR headset under $500 that has latest gen tech (fovial, eye tracking,120deg view, sufficient contrast, improved lenses for godrays, less weight, 120fps refresh, no half-baked onboard processing/more weight, or AR crap). Also waiting for IL2 to stop living in the last decade and include VR cockpit controls that don't have to map to the keyboard but you can "virtually" manipulate. That's when I go balls deep again.

[@CasmoTV]

Yeah a switchable cockpit would be great. Or even a control mapping process that didn’t make me want to throw people out of windows.

[@Nsane211]

That was awesome. I can't play IL2. I set my screen for 4K and now the menu is off the screen no matter what setting I have. I can't press play or change the settings. Happy flying

[@CasmoTV]

Yikes

[@Nsane211]

@@CasmoTV So I had to give it a try again. I had it installed in 3 PC's. I uninstalled on all. the just reinstalled it on my 3090TI rig works great. VR here I come. going to wait until Flying circus is on sale. Happy Flying

[@m96920]

No hi speed diving boomzoomers there? No firing at 500 metters? No one shooted?

[@S3NTRY]

Sweet

[@lunarpollen]

in VR, are the images for the left and right eyes slightly offset to make it 3D?

[@monty156]

Yeah, basically you look through VR and it's as if you're there. It's about as immersive as you can get. If you've never tried VR, I highly recommend you give it a go if the opportunity arises.

[@lunarpollen]

I would love to try it, but I am still living the peasant life, stuck using a Windows 7 Lenovo laptop as my PC... I can't imagine the expense involved in getting the right kind of machine for this type of gaming, the proper kinds of graphics and sound cards, etc.

[@Michelsen3K]

​@@lunarpollen yeah vr is pretty hungry and super expensive in terms of pc hardware. But worth it!

[@maamold]

Looks fun. Now do a mission without talking to each other because they couldn't other than hand signals.

[@steveman1982]

Wow, this looks epic! Are the planes difficult to fly as well? Always heard they were death traps.

[@CasmoTV]

Need lots of pedal input

[@steveman1982]

​@@CasmoTV I really need to finish my DIY pedals first then :D Does make sense with these being prop planes with possibly radial engines.

[@Hjerte_Verke]

If you read the accounts from the actual pilots and modern day pilots who fly replicas, they're all different. The best, most well rounded plane was the Fokker DVII at least for its era, said to be light on the controls, having very few vices and very responsive.

[@lioneaglegriffin]

great vid.

[@dcikaruga]

I've got Rise Of Flight but got bored of it after a while, this has got mixed reviews and for the money, I'm not too sure. What are your guys opinions?

[@TransAmDrifter]

How this game compares to Rise of Flight? Aren't they the same, just RoF being a more multiplayer oriented game but based on the same engine?

[@CasmoTV]

Never really got into ROF so I’m not sure

[@TheRaptorXX]

You wanna watch the Albert Ross bloke, he's always causing trouble!!

[@matthewbrook7683]

What VR headset did you use ?

[@CasmoTV]

G2

[@matthewbrook7683]

Thank you. !

[@qatsi4897]

Looks like great fun, thanks! Question, seeing you use the G2 in OpenXR, did you try the OpenXR Toolkit? Does it work?

[@MrEDET]

Yes that works awesome for IL2. Gives a lot of extra fps/headroom to increase resolution and graphic settings. Only FFR doesn't work with IL2.

[@teacombu417]

Is there Farmans?

[@CasmoTV]

Idk what that is… so no.

[@biffrapper]

Is that as good and complete as Rise of Flight, yet?

[@CasmoTV]

Not sure never got into ROf but they just released a new map and some more planes and announced the follow up volume 3

[@natekott]

As I understand it Flying Circus is effectively Rise of Flight brought up to IL2 great battles standards. The company that made ROF took over IL2 great battles. They contracted with a third party to improve the ROF assets to make them flyable in the great battles engine. It isn't as complete as ROF. However, the tool Casmo is using to make his mission is the Pat Wilson Campaign Generator and it is awesome. It will autogenerate a campaign for pretty much any of the Great Battles content. I too have no idea why it uses that goofy waypoint system for its patrols. (I expect that there is actually a good programming reason)

[@biffrapper]

@@natekott Hmmm, that is a bummer. I really enjoyed Rise of Flight. They have done a wonderful job with IL-2 BoX, however. I would love a modernized RoF that is as complete, dynamic campaign included.

[@natekott]

@@biffrapper It's still worth looking at especially if you fly in VR. It goes on sale a couple times each year. WWI in VR is amazing. Between the two flying circus games there are twenty plans. The Pat Wilson Campaign Generator is a free tool that generates dynamic campaigns, sort of. It tracks pilots, including enemy pilots, but you can't change the course of the war. But you can degrade opposing air squadrons.

[@KiO_YT]

@@biffrapper After the release of Volume 2 last week both FC Volumes now include a dynamic career, as well as this with the annoucement of Vol 3 the entire roster of RoF will be complete when that releases with Vol IV bringing additional aircraft alongside that as well!

[@ishootbirds]

Casmo, if you're taking requests... could you do a quick a dirty brief on recording VR? I've got OBS and Resolve but am fumbling with the settings needed to get an end result that isn't a puke-fest for the viewer.

[@CasmoTV]

Honestly all I did was crop the image in OBS down to my right eye. That’s it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ea4744]

Is this PvP or PvAI?

[@CasmoTV]

AI

[@arthurcrego8297]

nice

[@Taipan303]

ps you probably recognise my profile pic after flying it now ;)

[@Andrew-se4tg]

Phalz d3s, not albatross...

[@CasmoTV]

Correct………..

[@Hjerte_Verke]

Pfalz and Albatros were both sighted in this game. But the Pfalz planes were misidentified as Albatros. Close enough eh?

[@generalgrevous2458]

l didn't know Discord existed in WW2.

[@CasmoTV]

Along with VR

[@generalgrevous2458]

@@CasmoTV 😄👍

[@Andrew-se4tg]

Ww1

[@santobr]

There was no radio at that time, so you are cheating. Just kidding.😇

[@CasmoTV]

If you ain’t cheatin you ain’t tryin.

[@thunderccr5056]

Looks like a great game, you should stop using the comms. Didn’t have them in WW1 scout fighters. Regards.

[@CasmoTV]

I’m Here to have fun. Not recreate the misery.

[@shawncollier571]

Fucking Dog fighting in those days was 99% luck and 1% skill

[@CasmoTV]

And 1000% balls for sure.

[@Gunfreak19]

Not really, the aces were aces for a reason. There are descriptions of how some aces could fire a 2 second burst and take out a plane and did so repeatedly, while others would blaze away, not doing much. There was clear skill difference.

[@paulrward]

If you REALLY want to be realistic, TURN OFF YOUR PLANE TO PLANE COMMUNICATION !! WW1 aircraft did NOT have radios - they communicated by wing waggles, hand signals, and flares.

[@CasmoTV]

…have you figured out how to do hand and arm signals in IL2? Or replicate the natural ability to see detail in the game that the human eye can discern in real life? ME EITHER. ITS A GAME

[@Beery1962]

The AI in this sim are both incredibly stupid and ridiculously good shots. It's pointless to play this for anything except arcade fun.

[@CasmoTV]

Well that’s just like your opinion, man.

[@Beery1962]

@@CasmoTV It's a fact.

[@imellor711]

😂😂😂😂😂😢😊👌

[@wimziekman1104]

all this blabla is irritating

[@CasmoTV]

Turns out you’re not required to watch videos on YT you don’t like. Doesn’t hurt to be polite either. Bye.

[@wimziekman1104]

@@CasmoTV AFRAID OF CRITICISM? LITTLE EGO DESTROYED?

[@Anitguegaming]

Question, i have IL2. but its not installed. How many people play this mod? Id like to install it if its easy to get into a game

[@CasmoTV]

It’s not as popular as it should be.

[@gregprouse1173]

headset?

[@CasmoTV]

G2

[@garylabita8843]

You talk to each other? Not very realistic

[@CasmoTV]

Video game where I don’t die. Not very realistic.