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On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
If you enjoy war thunder or Microsoft flight simulator 2020 or even dogfighting in Battlefield 2042, consider getting yourself into Digital Combat Simulator by Eagle Dynamics, the Combat side of Aviation with the BVR and Dogfights really provides a different and interesting perspective on aviation. You can fly all kinds of combat aircraft including the F-16, F-15, F-14, JF-17, Su-27, Mig-29, Mirage and the F-18 Hornet along with many other aircraft and helicopters like the Ka-50 and Mi-8.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Finally some World War 1 content for everyone whos been waiting so patiently for it thank you for watching guys and I'll see you in the next one, Much Love.

[@jollyjouster8789]

Some "two morons" WWI would be nice as we'll, if convenient.

[@eoincaomhanach1983]

Just a couple of points: 1. Flying during WW1 was better then the alternative which was getting shelled daily in the rat infested trenches, seeing your mates getting blown up, gassed, etc.. 2. at 14:08 when you talk about the Sopwith Dolphin, you were actually talking about is one oh the following: An Airco DH.4, a Bristol F2A, F2B, or one of the Royal Aircraft Factory aircraft: B.E.2a, B.E.2b, B.E.2c, B.E.2e, or R.E.8, as these were all two seater aircraft, whilst the Sopwith Dolphin was a single seater fighter.

[@forktailedDevilP-38J91]

WW1 pilots were true badasses. Some of them regularly went out on their own just looking for fights basically. No wingmen or anything. Just 1v1 combat

[@tonyrun5802]

They were just spoilin' for a fight I guess. True chads

[@forktailedDevilP-38J91]

@@tonyrun5802 lol Giga-Chads! Actual alpha males!

[@darkphoenix2]

To be fair, did they understand the value of a wingman back then? Air combat was in its infancy.

[@neilgilsdorf1115]

They also had to know how to disassemble and reassemble their aircraft before they were allowed to fly. Obviously aircraft were less complex, but that’s crazy.

[@forktailedDevilP-38J91]

@@darkphoenix2 i'm sure they did. Its basically self-explanatory. I just dont think they cared lol

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Growling as he shoots his guns full auto: “what a horrible death” Casually lighting bogeys on fire: “truly tragic, I can’t believe this happened”

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Lold

[@sacopanchez151]

"Um, actually, bogey is a designation used for unidentified aircraft. A confirmed hostile aircraft would be called a bandit" 🤓

[@frozetti434]

@@sacopanchez151 I love you

[@sacopanchez151]

@@frozetti434 (⁄ ⁄°⁄_⁄°⁄ ⁄) Well thank you

[@manshoon2198]

@@GrowlingSidewinder I thought it was funny you pounced every thing in this video and you hearing of the screaming when they were crashing and catching fire. The virtual reality showing the real life horror and bravery that British and American pilots endured from German engineering.

[@Mitch3lT0mas]

Love how casual he is with the death screams of the burning pilots and tail gunners

[@clayblaze1327]

I mean it’s probably accurate somewhat😬

[@absolutezero6423]

Yeah. The v.a. did a excellent job with that scream.

[@farkinarkin5099]

Those screams are quite disturbing. No way, I'd go back in time for this kind of aerial jousting.

[@narcissus79]

yeah, but where's the Wilhelm scream!??

[@JMBuLLeTCL]

loool

[@zachpeterson4519]

God, the screams... That would be scarring in real life to hear so many fear-stricken screams.

[@TheErilaz]

You couldn't hear anything besides the roar of your engine and your guns firing, and wind.

[@ryangosling6651]

You probably wouldn’t hear anything over the sound of two machine guns firing like 2 feet away from you and a loud ass engine with no canopy.

[@onegg04]

GS: “crazy pilots didn’t have parachutes.” Also GS: “So I started blasting the guys with no parachutes”

[@garnix6390]

That screams when they are burning alive is just haunting. Horrible death

[@GrimaldiJ]

Can't wait to see you incorporate some of the WWI skills into your modern dogfighting. Open the cockpit so you can stand up and check out wing damage, fire a pistol at the enemy, land in fields...the usual

[@ToreDL87]

WW1 dogfights are really good at teaching you staying in their aspect and energy fighting though! You can combine those two and become quite proficient in any other era fighter aircraft.

[@GrimaldiJ]

@@ToreDL87 oh, I agree in that regard. Most of the same basic principles apply, but everything is closer and slower, so probably easier for new pilots to see how everything works before moving up to modern jets where the fight can be over in seconds, and it can be tough reading subtle cues on the enemy plane.

[@ToreDL87]

@@GrimaldiJ Correct, with WW1 combat you learn to read the situation & enemy's moves, a couple of weeks with a good gang online and you will see results, then you can translate that to WW2 & Jet combat and "level up" faster there as well. Much closer and much slower, so like you said, you learn to see the subtle cues sooner, you learn the important lessons way faster than if you were to basically be cannon fodder in jets or ww2 aircraft for months on end like what most people do these days. My point is, GS is already employing almost everything from WW1 air combat. Didn't mean to be *this* on it, but it looked kinda like you were taking a quick jab at ww1 air combat just a little bit.

[@neo-filthyfrank1347]

@@ToreDL87 cringe

[@donchilders5332]

If you are interested in WW1 flying you should watch The Blue Max. It's a mid-1960s epic kind of movie like they used to make back then. Watching the trailer it looks pretty campy by today's standards but it really is a good movie. Lots of flying and combat along with the pilot codes of conduct issues. Parts of it are a slower pace and there's the requisite love story in it but overall it's a good watch.

[@BrandoBaggins73]

It’s always a good day when I get the notification that GS uploaded again. Love your content dude ☺️

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank u brother much love

[@rocketrockstar8171]

Yeah I'm hooked, I would like to see a group one where raptors and F35 work together maybe taking out AWAC 's and ground defences!

[@BrandoBaggins73]

@@rocketrockstar8171 Dude that would slap!

[@submar1n59]

GS: "Such a horrible death" Also GS 10 minutes later: "Very satisfying kill, I love getting these guys"

[@paulvonhindenburg4727]

Richtofen was pretty much that- he enjoyed the kill

[@ToreDL87]

@@paulvonhindenburg4727 The hunt, more so than the kill.

[@MOTO809]

It's interesting to see a modern dogfighter transported 100 years into the past.

[@everettbruckerhoff6029]

He’s reading the book those guys wrote, and he has 100 years of dogfighting knowledge on top of that. It is impressive for sure.

[@DreadX10]

@@everettbruckerhoff6029 I still can't believe I've watched a sidewinder dogfighting video that didn't have the "he's going one circle", "he's going two circles.' in it.

[@erics8192]

yay, ww1 dogfights are back. I love these :)

[@WhimsicalPacifist]

Something about WW1 combat is just riveting with death so close; well worth a few watches. Had the same phenomena with the film "Wings", actually the assault on the bombers meshes very well with a relevant scene in Wings.

[@PaiSAMSEN]

"So far [we haven't been shot]" Classic GS.

[@hazza_LYX]

The audio from the tail gunner’s rounds hitting your plane is actually phenomenal

[@brandonb404]

*Blasting bullets into people* "I'm trying to be nice here." 😂 I understand what your saying but that was funny

[@tomsbasement4884]

Most VR videos give me motion sickness due to the jittery-ness but this one was really smooth. Well done and a joy to watch!

[@JorisKoolen]

Man, 15 years after Kitty Hawk and they were building these glorious death machines...they're magnificent

[@JohnBeeblebrox]

I love all your WW1 experiences. More please! :-)

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Thank you @Growling Sidewinder. I have been asking for a few WW1 videos. Great video.

[@animalmother556x45]

“…such a horrible horrible death” *1.5 seconds later* “So I’m gonna pilot snipe this guy”

[@KiiDbeamO]

You did so good to be in the blind spot though, that was great flying 🤘🏼

[@vipertwenty249]

That aircraft you thought was a Sopwith Dolphin at 14.30 was a De Havilland DH4. The Dolphin was a single seat fighter.

[@eoincaomhanach1983]

I was thinking it might be one of the Royal Aircraft Factory B.E.2 variants or maybe an R.E.8.

[@Highice007]

Damn, they added 😱 screams. Chilling.

[@misc3741]

I love how he says "Such a horrible death" literally after he caused it

[@Sacto1654]

Actually, the plane that drove the German pilots crazy was the Bristol F.2B, especially once the Royal Flying Corps figured out the two seater was extremely maneuverable. The F.2B racked up a lot of kills because they could take on German fighters with both the front guns and the observer-mount rear gun.

[@YT-zd3eu]

Oh my God ! Those scream😢

[@adamlannerd1408]

That poor pilot was dead before his gunner....

[@basementdustproductions1069]

That poor gunner was alive after his pilot. It’s gotta be worse going down with absolutely nothing you can do

[@jonqueller4444]

@@basementdustproductions1069 if u check the reply, u can see the pilot's head tilted to the right, meaning he was already dead before his gunner

[@basementdustproductions1069]

@@jonqueller4444 Sorry, I completely flipped them for some reason

[@Kammandier]

at this point after watching numerous dcs content from other channels i am convinced growling sidewinder is an aircraft sniper

[@mikehoncho_9857]

The death screams…. Legit.

[@jbmbryant]

I personally absolutely love these WW1 dogfighting vids.

[@Charles_Bro-son]

Those screams man!

[@J.D.Vision]

You can hear the pilots screaming in pain, that is some nice attention to detail.

[@justicier10-7]

Love the WW1 content sir! I have to mention, the "Noooooo!" heard by the Sopwith pilot at 11:44 would have been hilarious if it was Vader's from Revenge of the Sith ;)

[@Bassjunkie_1]

I don't think i will be sleeping tonight after all the screaming in this lol

[@gatling216]

It's a wonder these things were able to get off the ground at all, seeing as how they had to cart the massive balls of the pilots with them.

[@anthonysmith3593]

If they could pull it off if you want early dog fights the pilots used to bust out their pistols and shoot at each other.

[@JorisKoolen]

You can actually do that in IL2 😂

[@agidotexe7167]

the screaming is brutal, ver well edited GS

[@LimoMcG]

This might be a dark take but the screaming sound effect is hilarious 🤣

[@BlyGuy]

The engineers who were able to design machine guns that were timed perfectly to not hit the propeller blades blow my mind. Can anyone explain how they were able to accomplish that?

[@BlackFoxFalcon]

In a very simplified way, the engineers connected the firing mechanism to the propeller shaft via a gearbox. Or something similar to one. It was constructed in a way that in between the propeller blades, a push rod was moved upwards via a protrusion on the prop shaft. Once it moved up, given that the pilot pulled the trigger, the forward mounted machine guns fired.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I think it was some sort of interrupter connected to the propeller in the machine guy mechanism so every time a propeller was in front of the gun it wouldn’t fire.

[@BlyGuy]

@@GrowlingSidewinder incredible. I wish I was that smart. Great upload/flying brother!

[@BlyGuy]

@@BlackFoxFalcon thanks!

[@BlackFoxFalcon]

@@BlyGuy You bet.

[@EdMcStinko]

The screaming is tough to listen to because I know I'd be screaming even louder in that situation.

[@AHSValor]

I'd love to watch a longplay campaign series in VR

[@t1mblim]

I don't know what's so satisfying about these ww1 videos

[@richardalldredge9129]

I own IL2 but I’m not good at managing energy… I understand the principles a little bit of energy management and not being able to turn all crazy to maintain speed without bleeding energy, but if I feel I get out turned every time.. and when I do try turning more I stall…. I feel that I lack training to fly these sim games lol

[@debbiestimac5175]

You have to really, really understand the flight/performance envelope of your aircraft and your adversaries, to effectively manage energy in a dogfight. It is why study time is ten times or more, than seat time, today. Back then, the pilots were more or less on their own to figure things out and why they lasted minutes, instead of days, in many cases. The experienced pilots, like Growling here, ran roughshod around enemy aerodromes, picking of new fliers, that knew little of things as clearing six or using the sun or cloud hopping, to hide your approach to the enemy. Most that died, never saw them before the rounds started shredding their kite. Brave, brave, brave... cannon fodder.

[@JorisKoolen]

It's a bit easier with the WWI birds like this Pfalz D.IIIa. Always full throttle, and pull the stick to turn until things get shakey.

[@sacundim]

Those screams when the airplane becomes a big fireball are unsettling

[@TonyTheKiwi62]

what a plane! That Sturmovic was a class ahead of everything you were fighting & the Camel was a pretty good plane in it's day

[@AsbestosMuffins]

we'll never know but I do always love the apocryphal story that these guys were friendly with each other till one day one of them brought a gun and shot at the other side's planes, then the next time they met they were fully fighting with whatever they brought

[@therelatablegamer7012]

your content is some of the best on youtube. i hope your channel keeps growing!

[@EdwardKirkpatrick]

In the replay, I think the pilot is already dead before he gets the gunner on that first bomber...

[@ccmoore73]

The Albatross series of aircraft were very pretty.

[@schadenfreude191]

I was watching this with my daughter until the guys started screaming in agony 🤣

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Looool ya in my defence I do tag these videos as not for kids for KZbin lol

[@schadenfreude191]

@@GrowlingSidewinder not your fault at all it was just funny. She looked at me and said the planes are sad.

[@mrroofish]

The screams of the burning crewmen are… a nice touch

[@LordHolley]

Whoever made the screaming voice sounds did an amazing job...

[@davidpalmer4184]

The first dogfight "The pilot is setting the gunner up." yeah, as a meat shield!

[@CapSalty]

“If you shoot the wing roots, the wings will fall apart from the stress” ! So now they both scream all the way to the ground ?? LOL …. bro - your really chasing the Nobel Peace Prize aren’t you :)

[@tanewoodley9806]

Being a WW1 pilot must be the flying equivalent of going up against 10,000 angry strangers in ancient times protected by nothing more than a shield, some prayers and body odour...

[@fishinwithbigmike2674]

Awesome video bud. I found your channel 6 months ago and this what ive been waitin for. WW1 and WW2 videos. Thanks man. Keep up the great work

[@javiernoriega7668]

The death screams are absolutely disconcerting, but I love it. This is sofa king cool, thanks again for everything, you're awesome.

[@kanebehne3604]

More of these WW1 battles please! They were awesome

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

One thing i take away from this is the screams of the pilot as their planes catches fire.

[@Woody-nc1ru]

11:10 sounded like Marty Mcfly yelling when Doc was shot.

[@Phoenix2.5D]

I love how at some points you can see the same principles applied in modern dogfighting in this video

[@ThomasThePanzerTank]

“I think we got him.” *Sounds of enemy pilot burning alive*

[@codeycox247]

My buddy’s dad flew f111s and f15s in the USAF and his saying is “go up blow up”.

[@99zxk]

"Can you believe that people used to get in metal planes with afterburners and would shoot rockets at each other?" Growling Sidewinder, 3023

[@OntologicalQuandry]

From Blackadder Goes Forth "Private Plane": Try to land somewhere soft sir. Fine, I'll aim for between General Melchett's ears...

[@edwardfletcher7790]

The horrifying screams make this a very different experience ! You're definitely shooting down people not aircraft !

[@FrozenMurican]

"The red nose, they call him the dragon because he never stops until he sees flames" - The Brit survivors probably.

[@christopher5723]

3 days.... There were periods like Bloody April where that was longer than the average life expectancy of a new RFC pilot after arrival at an operational unit...

[@foreignmandirector]

The screaming of the pilots in IL-2 FC is insane and somewhat disturbing!

[@doomerdave2891]

I love the skill GS shows off in these damn biplanes!!

[@motorgearhead]

the screams from burning is chilling...

[@Botboi8866]

More ww1 dogfights please

[@Brian_C_]

It's crazy how they added the screaming of the crew...

[@georgedavidson957]

the life expectancy of a new pilot was 20 minutes! (According to blackadder) even the trenches start to look not bad a proposition with those odds! ps: my grandfather survived the somme (admittedly his teeth did not)

[@nooneyouknowhere6148]

My grandfather made it to 1964. Died the day before i was born due to mustard gas destroying his lungs. He outlived his unit. Had 1/2 of one ling left the last 5 years of his life.

[@deferencetodusk]

3 weeks actually

[@georgedavidson957]

@@deferencetodusk the reference to "20 minuters" was on one of George's cigarette cards in blackadder goes forth (ep4 Private Plane). didnt say it was historically accurate. :o)

[@Clementinewoofwoof]

I just think it’s really dark at how well done DCS made the screaming of the pilots going down or burning

[@CaptainXanax]

I wish they would show one of those guys getting shot, catching fire, crashing in the forest, then running away only to get eaten by a bear.

[@vinniedayhikerb4977]

The screams were a nice touch.

[@Darcstar-du3dh]

7:35 of course the catch fire quickly they are made with fabrick hulls

[@thickoc4539]

how many of these would it take to down an F14..? please show us lol

[@alanhilton7336caradventure]

when the pilots scream that's pretty brutal.

[@thomashenshallhydraxis]

Being a pilot in ww1 was probably way better then a soldier on the front. Navy was probably the best job in ww1

[@henrik6567]

1:44 that's why you bring a gun on the plane.

[@DimRagga]

You forget that the alternative to being a pilot was trench warfare with mustard gas raining down on you. I get exactly why guys would volunteer for pilot training and go out in a quick fire than dying in the mud.

[@311Bob]

You can hear him screaming when you go by him!

[@oldmanfunky4909]

So I ended up buying this since I own a VR headset and honestly. I like it a little more than DCS in VR! I think it is because the slower speeds allow you to enjoy the a little better.

[@acftmxman]

GS, loved all the screaming on the kills. It made me laugh. The VR looked pretty good. When I was a kid, I saw a Sopwith Camel being put through its paces at an air show. Damn thing took off and landed within the same 20 foot length on the runway. Dope and fabric aircraft are pretty amazing.

[@Isaacsbased]

Is it not crazy how far we’ve come in 100 years, the men who flew those planes in WW1 would have never imagined one day (not so far from then in the grand scheme of things) that we would have something like the raptor

[@boejiden7093]

They probably can’t even fathom the Idea that we’d be using missiles with IR guidance that can pull 9G maneuvers to destroy an enemy fighter while also being able to eject from the airplane when necessary.

[@FusionAero]

I'm sure The Red Baron and his rivals would be awestruck by a modern fighter, but I'm also sure they wouldn't turn down the opportunity to take the stick. Any time traveler looking to bring WW1 flyboys up to speed on a century's worth of advancement in military aviation would do well to bring the collected works of Growling Sidewinder.

[@ryangosling6651]

@@boejiden7093 I’d say it’s scarier to imagine the speed. These men flew planes that couldn’t reach half the speed of sound- so imagine flying massive hunks of metal traveling like 15X that.

[@there_can_only_be_one__unicorn]

Awesome!!! Fighting with gliders, lol.... Thanks for the time and effort you invest in your productions they are very much appreciated and enjoyed!!! Thank you💌🇨🇦

[@Viper2132]

That screaming effect they do is absolutely haunting

[@KanJonathan]

Those rear gunners deserved VC.

[@kristopherhorn93]

I’m so happy these are back!

[@nerag7459]

I cant get over the screams of the dying pilots.

[@titantanic7255]

I recommend you try boom and zoom against those bomber gunners, get up high, roll on to them get some shots on the way down then try to pull up and get shots from below without his tail gunner, go back with the energy you used and repeat. I’m not sure if these bi planes can even do that cause I remember that the bf109 couldn’t even dive because of the engine so I don’t even know about these ones. Even if your engine wasn’t like that, your wings would probably rip off from from all of the force from the wind pressure.

[@collinlingaitis8872]

I grew up practically Idolizing pilots in WW1. In response to your question of "How much to go back and be a WW1 pilot for 3 days?" Theres a big part of me that would pay to do it rather than be paid. Call me insane but... I'd do it. Not even to be a hero or live out a fantasy. I feel like I owe it to those guys I spent a big portion of my life hero worshipping to really understand and experience the hell they went through. Even just to fly over the front once and see, hear, smell... to experience just a snapshot of that event that irrevocably changed human history. I think I owe to those that lived it if only to have a grasp of what they did.

[@R_Ragwell]

Need more of this my guy

[@sethwallace4878]

This is one of the most impressive combat sims I’ve ever seen

[@ronaldkonkoma4356]

If you love this check out Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome across the Hudson from Woodstock

[@FEAROWNAGE]

That bomber was a Vickers Vimy, I believe.