World War I Dogfights in Virtual Reality Are Insane | The Great War | Dogfight | IL-2 Great Battles

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On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
If you enjoy war thunder or Microsoft flight simulator 2020 or even dogfighting in Battlefield 2042, consider getting yourself into Digital Combat Simulator by Eagle Dynamics, the Combat side of Aviation with the BVR and Dogfights really provides a different and interesting perspective on aviation. You can fly all kinds of combat aircraft including the F-16, F-15, F-14, JF-17, Su-27, Mig-29, Mirage and the F-18 Hornet along with many other aircraft and helicopters like the Ka-50 and Mi-8.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Finally some World War 1 content for everyone whos been waiting so patiently for it thank you for watching guys and I'll see you in the next one, Much Love.

[@jollyjouster8789]

Some "two morons" WWI would be nice as we'll, if convenient.

[@eoincaomhanach1983]

Just a couple of points: 1. Flying during WW1 was better then the alternative which was getting shelled daily in the rat infested trenches, seeing your mates getting blown up, gassed, etc.. 2. at 14:08 when you talk about the Sopwith Dolphin, you were actually talking about is one oh the following: An Airco DH.4, a Bristol F2A, F2B, or one of the Royal Aircraft Factory aircraft: B.E.2a, B.E.2b, B.E.2c, B.E.2e, or R.E.8, as these were all two seater aircraft, whilst the Sopwith Dolphin was a single seater fighter.

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Growling as he shoots his guns full auto: “what a horrible death” Casually lighting bogeys on fire: “truly tragic, I can’t believe this happened”

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Lold

[@sacopanchez151]

"Um, actually, bogey is a designation used for unidentified aircraft. A confirmed hostile aircraft would be called a bandit" 🤓

[@frozetti434]

@@sacopanchez151 I love you

[@sacopanchez151]

@@frozetti434 (⁄ ⁄°⁄_⁄°⁄ ⁄) Well thank you

[@manshoon2198]

@@GrowlingSidewinder I thought it was funny you pounced every thing in this video and you hearing of the screaming when they were crashing and catching fire. The virtual reality showing the real life horror and bravery that British and American pilots endured from German engineering.

[@forktailedDevilP-38J91]

WW1 pilots were true badasses. Some of them regularly went out on their own just looking for fights basically. No wingmen or anything. Just 1v1 combat

[@tonyrun5802]

They were just spoilin' for a fight I guess. True chads

[@forktailedDevilP-38J91]

@@tonyrun5802 lol Giga-Chads! Actual alpha males!

[@darkphoenix2]

To be fair, did they understand the value of a wingman back then? Air combat was in its infancy.

[@neilgilsdorf1115]

They also had to know how to disassemble and reassemble their aircraft before they were allowed to fly. Obviously aircraft were less complex, but that’s crazy.

[@forktailedDevilP-38J91]

@@darkphoenix2 i'm sure they did. Its basically self-explanatory. I just dont think they cared lol

[@Mitch3lT0mas]

Love how casual he is with the death screams of the burning pilots and tail gunners

[@clayblaze1327]

I mean it’s probably accurate somewhat😬

[@absolutezero6423]

Yeah. The v.a. did a excellent job with that scream.

[@farkinarkin5099]

Those screams are quite disturbing. No way, I'd go back in time for this kind of aerial jousting.

[@narcissus79]

yeah, but where's the Wilhelm scream!??

[@JMBuLLeTCL]

loool

[@submar1n59]

GS: "Such a horrible death" Also GS 10 minutes later: "Very satisfying kill, I love getting these guys"

[@paulvonhindenburg4727]

Richtofen was pretty much that- he enjoyed the kill

[@ToreDL87]

@@paulvonhindenburg4727 The hunt, more so than the kill.

[@swordmonkey6635]

Most WW1 pilots up until things got desperate for Germany at the end were pretty chivalrous and likened themselves of knights of the skies. They did their best to disable the enemy planes without killing the pilot and there were stories of enemy planes flying over a crashed plane to ensure the enemy pilot was still alive (if the sky and ground were clear of enemies). There were pilots on both sides looking for blood, but many understood the danger and bravery of flying and saw themselves as jousters more than killers. Romance was still alive for a while.

[@kennyj4366]

Very true 👍.

[@craigmoffitt2374]

A good example of that was the dogfight that occurred between Ernst Udet and Georges Guynemer. It ended when Udet had both guns on his plane jam and instead of moving in for the kill, Guynemer gave him a wave and broke off.

[@dudeinadoughboy4327]

When Manfred Richtoffen (The Red Baron) was killed, a British pilot flew over his funeral and dropped a wreath

[@greva2904]

@@dudeinadoughboy4327 He crashed behind British lines and it was the British and Australians who gave him a military funeral and buried him.

[@MattH-wg7ou]

The European (in English) movie The Red Baron is a great movie about this time period and Richtofen.

[@onegg04]

GS: “crazy pilots didn’t have parachutes.” Also GS: “So I started blasting the guys with no parachutes”

[@zachpeterson4519]

God, the screams... That would be scarring in real life to hear so many fear-stricken screams.

[@TheErilaz]

You couldn't hear anything besides the roar of your engine and your guns firing, and wind.

[@ryangosling6651]

You probably wouldn’t hear anything over the sound of two machine guns firing like 2 feet away from you and a loud ass engine with no canopy.

[@garnix6390]

That screams when they are burning alive is just haunting. Horrible death

[@PaiSAMSEN]

"So far [we haven't been shot]" Classic GS.

[@ilankeren1449]

"such a horrible horrible death..." *proceeds to kill more guys*

[@donchilders5332]

If you are interested in WW1 flying you should watch The Blue Max. It's a mid-1960s epic kind of movie like they used to make back then. Watching the trailer it looks pretty campy by today's standards but it really is a good movie. Lots of flying and combat along with the pilot codes of conduct issues. Parts of it are a slower pace and there's the requisite love story in it but overall it's a good watch.

[@BrandoBaggins73]

It’s always a good day when I get the notification that GS uploaded again. Love your content dude ☺️

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank u brother much love

[@rocketrockstar8171]

Yeah I'm hooked, I would like to see a group one where raptors and F35 work together maybe taking out AWAC 's and ground defences!

[@BrandoBaggins73]

@@rocketrockstar8171 Dude that would slap!

[@GrimaldiJ]

Can't wait to see you incorporate some of the WWI skills into your modern dogfighting. Open the cockpit so you can stand up and check out wing damage, fire a pistol at the enemy, land in fields...the usual

[@ToreDL87]

WW1 dogfights are really good at teaching you staying in their aspect and energy fighting though! You can combine those two and become quite proficient in any other era fighter aircraft.

[@GrimaldiJ]

@@ToreDL87 oh, I agree in that regard. Most of the same basic principles apply, but everything is closer and slower, so probably easier for new pilots to see how everything works before moving up to modern jets where the fight can be over in seconds, and it can be tough reading subtle cues on the enemy plane.

[@ToreDL87]

@@GrimaldiJ Correct, with WW1 combat you learn to read the situation & enemy's moves, a couple of weeks with a good gang online and you will see results, then you can translate that to WW2 & Jet combat and "level up" faster there as well. Much closer and much slower, so like you said, you learn to see the subtle cues sooner, you learn the important lessons way faster than if you were to basically be cannon fodder in jets or ww2 aircraft for months on end like what most people do these days. My point is, GS is already employing almost everything from WW1 air combat. Didn't mean to be *this* on it, but it looked kinda like you were taking a quick jab at ww1 air combat just a little bit.

[@neo-filthyfrank1347]

@@ToreDL87 cringe

[@YT-zd3eu]

Oh my God ! Those scream😢

[@MOTO809]

It's interesting to see a modern dogfighter transported 100 years into the past.

[@everettbruckerhoff6029]

He’s reading the book those guys wrote, and he has 100 years of dogfighting knowledge on top of that. It is impressive for sure.

[@DreadX10]

@@everettbruckerhoff6029 I still can't believe I've watched a sidewinder dogfighting video that didn't have the "he's going one circle", "he's going two circles.' in it.

[@erics8192]

yay, ww1 dogfights are back. I love these :)

[@brandonb404]

*Blasting bullets into people* "I'm trying to be nice here." 😂 I understand what your saying but that was funny

[@seniorslaphead8336]

The blood-curdling screams are just adorable.

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

Man, those screams give me the chills every time! To answer your question, 50 million in gold! That’s what it would take.

[@emmano6340]

Same man, and to think that many of those pilots were actually volunteers...i don't know how they could fly with the weight of their balls of steel.

[@hphp31416]

50 million in gold is probably more than entire airforces were worth back then

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

@@hphp31416 if they want me to fly, I have a price. The 50 million in gold is a jab at the amount of gold in Fort Knox at the beginning of WW1

[@Tacticaviator7]

@@emmano6340 I will be honest, I would pick to fight in planes anytime, being ordered to run into enemy machine gun fire during trench warfare just isn't for me you know.

[@oscarzheng9902]

jeez the screams in the video adds a whole new dimension to the experience. if I were to go back in time and be a ww1 pilot for 3 days, I'll like a billion

[@TheErilaz]

You couldn't hear anything besides the roar of your engine and your guns firing, and wind.

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

@@TheErilaz you have no idea how loud screams can be.

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

@@TheErilaz but in general, you are correct.

[@adamlannerd1408]

That poor pilot was dead before his gunner....

[@basementdustproductions1069]

That poor gunner was alive after his pilot. It’s gotta be worse going down with absolutely nothing you can do

[@jonqueller4444]

@@basementdustproductions1069 if u check the reply, u can see the pilot's head tilted to the right, meaning he was already dead before his gunner

[@basementdustproductions1069]

@@jonqueller4444 Sorry, I completely flipped them for some reason

[@mikehoncho_9857]

The death screams…. Legit.

[@poolman7495]

so gruesome the way the scream

[@Charles_Bro-son]

Those screams man!

[@gitfoad8032]

Brisfit did badly at first because the combat was delegated to the rear gunner; as soon as it began to be used as a fighter in it's own right, it held it's own well.

[@WhimsicalPacifist]

Something about WW1 combat is just riveting with death so close; well worth a few watches. Had the same phenomena with the film "Wings", actually the assault on the bombers meshes very well with a relevant scene in Wings.

[@Highice007]

Damn, they added 😱 screams. Chilling.

[@JorisKoolen]

Man, 15 years after Kitty Hawk and they were building these glorious death machines...they're magnificent

[@JohnBeeblebrox]

I love all your WW1 experiences. More please! :-)

[@animalmother556x45]

“…such a horrible horrible death” *1.5 seconds later* “So I’m gonna pilot snipe this guy”

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Thank you @Growling Sidewinder. I have been asking for a few WW1 videos. Great video.

[@hazza_LYX]

The audio from the tail gunner’s rounds hitting your plane is actually phenomenal

[@ivanbarbancon8750]

let's say that in nearly 30 years, we came from little recon aircraft, to jet fighters.... 30 years between the first fights (1915) and the first jet in 1939 (heinkel 178)

[@andrewb325]

Absolutely brutal. Their screams will haunt my dreams.

[@tomsbasement4884]

Most VR videos give me motion sickness due to the jittery-ness but this one was really smooth. Well done and a joy to watch!

[@graustreifbrombeerkralle1078]

Man, watching these WWI dogfights is much more haunting and terrifying than those WWII dogfights, hearing those poor guys screaming while burning to death and falling from the sky... :(

[@TheErilaz]

You couldn't hear anything besides the roar of your engine and your guns firing, and wind noise.

[@alganhar1]

@@TheErilaz That is true enough, but every pilot and gunner knew what was happening in those aircraft. Every. Single. One.

[@Bassjunkie_1]

I don't think i will be sleeping tonight after all the screaming in this lol

[@misc3741]

I love how he says "Such a horrible death" literally after he caused it

[@KiiDbeamO]

You did so good to be in the blind spot though, that was great flying 🤘🏼

[@vipertwenty249]

That aircraft you thought was a Sopwith Dolphin at 14.30 was a De Havilland DH4. The Dolphin was a single seat fighter.

[@eoincaomhanach1983]

I was thinking it might be one of the Royal Aircraft Factory B.E.2 variants or maybe an R.E.8.

[@giftmorzel6318]

at this point after watching numerous dcs content from other channels i am convinced growling sidewinder is an aircraft sniper

[@jbmbryant]

I personally absolutely love these WW1 dogfighting vids.

[@Sacto1654]

Actually, the plane that drove the German pilots crazy was the Bristol F.2B, especially once the Royal Flying Corps figured out the two seater was extremely maneuverable. The F.2B racked up a lot of kills because they could take on German fighters with both the front guns and the observer-mount rear gun.

[@benjaminmacdonald7656]

Great clip. It must be awesome in vr. There was one part in particular I really liked. When you stood up to look at the damage to your plane I could tell in your breath that you were literally standing up.

[@Just_some_Bible_Stuff]

The picture of your German pilot's late wife in the cockpit is a nice touch

[@agidotexe7167]

the screaming is brutal, ver well edited GS

[@MrRecorder1]

So happy to see a few more of these!

[@windmuhlenmann7741]

Could you do a video as a tailgunner? Love your videos.

[@LimoMcG]

This might be a dark take but the screaming sound effect is hilarious 🤣

[@chalermlab8925]

moden jets: disintegrate from 1 trigger pull ww1 planes: wings looks like swiss chese, still flying

[@LegendzAnimations]

In this video, I learned and enjoyed more WW1 content while at the same time, hear the screaming of men on the battlefield. :3

[@Mr.Scootini]

What I think is crazy is that actual people did this in real life, over 100yrs ago. That’s just insane to me

[@therelatablegamer7012]

your content is some of the best on youtube. i hope your channel keeps growing!

[@kevelliott]

Your Sopwith Dolphin was an Airco DH9a! The Dolphin was a single seat fighter, with a rearward set upper plane, like the Beech Staggerwing.

[@Ambaryerno]

I thought that was a Brisfit.

[@kevelliott]

@@Ambaryerno No, though there was a Bristol Fighter somewhere in the video; but at the time GS was talking about a Dolphin, it was def a DH9.

[@alganhar1]

@@kevelliott The Brisfit was the one he commented on burning so easily, which struck me as odd as ALL aircraft of that time were literal fires waiting to happen, and the Brisfit was one of the sturdier WWI aircraft.

[@fishinwithbigmike2674]

Awesome video bud. I found your channel 6 months ago and this what ive been waitin for. WW1 and WW2 videos. Thanks man. Keep up the great work

[@ATP-Flo]

Thanks for more VR content. Really like it! It feels more immersive watching you.

[@t1mblim]

I don't know what's so satisfying about these ww1 videos

[@anthonysmith3593]

If they could pull it off if you want early dog fights the pilots used to bust out their pistols and shoot at each other.

[@JorisKoolen]

You can actually do that in IL2 😂

[@gatling216]

It's a wonder these things were able to get off the ground at all, seeing as how they had to cart the massive balls of the pilots with them.

[@justicier10-7]

Love the WW1 content sir! I have to mention, the "Noooooo!" heard by the Sopwith pilot at 11:44 would have been hilarious if it was Vader's from Revenge of the Sith ;)

[@mattw3606]

Sweet landing. Love the gameplay!

[@schadenfreude191]

I was watching this with my daughter until the guys started screaming in agony 🤣

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Looool ya in my defence I do tag these videos as not for kids for KZbin lol

[@schadenfreude191]

@@GrowlingSidewinder not your fault at all it was just funny. She looked at me and said the planes are sad.

[@Ruteger100]

Great show, very intense. Thanks GS,

[@jefftheriault5522]

Rectangular radiator is Dehavilland DH4, The roundish radiator is the Bristol.

[@kristopherhorn93]

I’m so happy these are back!

[@there_can_only_be_one__unicorn]

Awesome!!! Fighting with gliders, lol.... Thanks for the time and effort you invest in your productions they are very much appreciated and enjoyed!!! Thank you💌🇨🇦

[@dobermanproductions8184]

Finally, another one of these!

[@AHSValor]

I'd love to watch a longplay campaign series in VR

[@EdMcStinko]

The screaming is tough to listen to because I know I'd be screaming even louder in that situation.

[@handsomesquidward8507]

Always nice to see u posting

[@jaggedskar3890]

Loved this video!

[@doomerdave2891]

I love the skill GS shows off in these damn biplanes!!

[@R_Ragwell]

Need more of this my guy

[@kanebehne3604]

More of these WW1 battles please! They were awesome

[@rlsuth]

Great video. Love the WW1 vids. Thank you.

[@TonyTheKiwi62]

what a plane! That Sturmovic was a class ahead of everything you were fighting & the Camel was a pretty good plane in it's day

[@kiwihame]

Love the IL2 battles.

[@AsbestosMuffins]

we'll never know but I do always love the apocryphal story that these guys were friendly with each other till one day one of them brought a gun and shot at the other side's planes, then the next time they met they were fully fighting with whatever they brought

[@EdwardKirkpatrick]

In the replay, I think the pilot is already dead before he gets the gunner on that first bomber...

[@BlyGuy]

The engineers who were able to design machine guns that were timed perfectly to not hit the propeller blades blow my mind. Can anyone explain how they were able to accomplish that?

[@BlackFoxFalcon]

In a very simplified way, the engineers connected the firing mechanism to the propeller shaft via a gearbox. Or something similar to one. It was constructed in a way that in between the propeller blades, a push rod was moved upwards via a protrusion on the prop shaft. Once it moved up, given that the pilot pulled the trigger, the forward mounted machine guns fired.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I think it was some sort of interrupter connected to the propeller in the machine guy mechanism so every time a propeller was in front of the gun it wouldn’t fire.

[@BlyGuy]

@@GrowlingSidewinder incredible. I wish I was that smart. Great upload/flying brother!

[@BlyGuy]

@@BlackFoxFalcon thanks!

[@BlackFoxFalcon]

@@BlyGuy You bet.

[@kevinloper6551]

Great video!

[@MarvelousLXVII]

My great grandfather was a mechanic in The Red Baron's squadron. My mom has a photograph of him (my grandfather, not Richthoven) in front of a bunch of planes (unfortunately, not the Fokker DR1.) In WW2, he operated spotlights while my great grandmother shot Flak 88s at bombers. I've always been a big fan of WW1 air combat. Looking forward to trying this out now that they have a campaign (and on sale lol.)

[@Hansiwansi]

Yeah, Play it in VR too! Its absoloutly insane! From Tank driving to flight! Love it!

[@richardalldredge9129]

I own IL2 but I’m not good at managing energy… I understand the principles a little bit of energy management and not being able to turn all crazy to maintain speed without bleeding energy, but if I feel I get out turned every time.. and when I do try turning more I stall…. I feel that I lack training to fly these sim games lol

[@debbiestimac5175]

You have to really, really understand the flight/performance envelope of your aircraft and your adversaries, to effectively manage energy in a dogfight. It is why study time is ten times or more, than seat time, today. Back then, the pilots were more or less on their own to figure things out and why they lasted minutes, instead of days, in many cases. The experienced pilots, like Growling here, ran roughshod around enemy aerodromes, picking of new fliers, that knew little of things as clearing six or using the sun or cloud hopping, to hide your approach to the enemy. Most that died, never saw them before the rounds started shredding their kite. Brave, brave, brave... cannon fodder.

[@JorisKoolen]

It's a bit easier with the WWI birds like this Pfalz D.IIIa. Always full throttle, and pull the stick to turn until things get shakey.

[@ccmoore73]

The Albatross series of aircraft were very pretty.

[@operatorsanonymous1741]

Like these better than the jets. Pretty sick

[@alisonjones7747]

These were REAL airplanes!

[@Logan_67]

Love your videos Growling

[@CapSalty]

“If you shoot the wing roots, the wings will fall apart from the stress” ! So now they both scream all the way to the ground ?? LOL …. bro - your really chasing the Nobel Peace Prize aren’t you :)

[@Wolf_3125]

The OG dogfighters!!! Absolute madlads!!!

[@insanity2477]

The screaming 😂

[@andersandrea69]

I love these vids!

[@bitanchowdhury4028]

I was waiting for this for long time .....The true dog fight

[@jdquesadilla8827]

Nice change up from the jet stuff. 👌🏼

[@vinniedayhikerb4977]

The screams were a nice touch.

[@keredrellit3992]

love the ww1 stuff!

[@sacundim]

Those screams when the airplane becomes a big fireball are unsettling

[@urviechalex9963]

Those screams are gut-wrenching...

[@Phoenix2.5D]

I love how at some points you can see the same principles applied in modern dogfighting in this video

[@mrroofish]

The screams of the burning crewmen are… a nice touch