The Best Version of The Burning Crusade You Will Ever See...

[@darkstar2205]

Tbc seasonal would be horrible we need a permanent server

[@Persepolis-o2b]

I disagree- each version of the game will always be best in a "temporary" state. This drives player engagement and helps prevent servers from becoming stagnant. "Seasonal" also suggests that it will return at some point- which is (i think) what people would prefer- I'd rather play through TBC Season 1 with phased content releases followed by a server close, followed by season 2. Permanent servers have poor economies and they depend on community-led raid restrictions because all phases on the content are out after a year or two. As long as bliz can guarantee that they'll continuously rinse and repeat TBC, I would prefer it this way.

[@seriouSamx]

Seasonal servers in MMOs feel terrible imo. I either get severe fomo or I don’t care about grinds because they aren’t permanent anyways.

[@Persepolis-o2b]

​@@seriouSamx I hear ya, but is anything actually permanent? Are Era servers anything like they were in 2019? I'm not trying to play semantics, but the game's entire endgame experience is based on non-permanence, and the community knows this whether a server is labeled "seasonal" or not. A player is either going to grind, knowing that the content is temporary, or they aren't going to grind, because it's temporary.

[@seriouSamx]

@@Persepolis-o2b no of course nothing is “permanent” by definition, but era is still around and cities (on the server I chose) are still pretty full with a lot of low level new players. So while it shrunk in player count, there’s still a player base. I never played SoM but there are in fact 0 people left playing that vs era having thousands. Rep grinds are my best example, “why would I spend hundreds of hours grinding reps that will all be deleted after a few months?” Is kind of my mindset. To each is own, I just don’t see much value of it in the mmo world.

[@seriouSamx]

@@Persepolis-o2b I do like seasonal content in some games for context (Tarkov with wipes, POE, etc) just not in MMOs that are historically designed to be very long term games.

[@Ganily]

There should just be 2 or at least 1 realm permanently for each expansion.

[@Az00069]

My favorites were MoP & WoD for the RBGs. I just liked the abilities the best.

[@FranciszekWolc]

literally this. its easy to pull off so even company as bad as blizzard can do it

[@MNPhantom]

I agree, I don't see why they dont just do Vanilla Wrath and TBC with a few realms each. It'd make them a ton of money plus a lot of people yearn to play a specific expansion for many years. I've played warmanes wotlk off and on since 2017. If blizzard had something permanent like that id play it.

[@frankspike4062]

Signed, i would get back on WoW if there was an official TBC server. DEW IT BLIZZ!

[@jasonparker3361]

Agreeing with many of the comments below - not interested in seasonal servers, give me a TBC Era server and I'm all in.

[@kevinneparidze3973]

For how long though?

[@jasonparker3361]

@@kevinneparidze3973 I’ve been playing WoW since 2006 and TBC was the one true expansion that I connected with both in content and gameplay so I would be happy to stay there for the next 18 years.

[@overmind4280]

Forever

[@Dawhitex]

@@overmind4280 You are fine with doing the same stuff over and over again? Thats crazy behaivor imo

[@GODNATLIVE]

Fresh TBC is actually what I need

[@knifegirl485]

I have played era for months now and im noticing alot more ppl are playing and coming back to era :)

[@johnny_eason_iii]

👍🏼👍🏼😎💯💥💥

[@trx3668]

" The Burning Crusade " is arguably the greatest World of Warcraft expansion ever. Not having a single TBC server is criminal!

[@mistmourn]

I highly dissaggre with such statement.

[@CowsLovesCake]

The idea TBC is better than vanilla is laughable.

[@EB-bl6cc]

@@CowsLovesCake it really depends what you like. If you care about gameplay first then it's not laughable at all - the TBC specs are much better versions of what Vanilla had to offer. If you are a lore/story/feel person then yeah in that case vanilla is unbeatable.

[@annekekramer3835]

TBC as an Xpack is just too small. Yes, the treatments are great, itemization is great, pvp is fun, but.... it's just too short, compared to vanilla.

[@darkstar2205]

@@CowsLovesCake vanilla is laughable. Yeah man let me run around in my bis offset clown suit and stack world buffs to hit target dummies with 1 mechanic. Absolute joke.

[@killswitchfate]

pls sign petition 🙏🏻

[@Abrupt_Decay]

TBC and Wrath era servers PLEASE. Both have wonderful things that i love, and i play private servers for both because i miss them, but the refined versions with bugfixes and updates that came with classic are truly a work of art. Playing on a wotlk pserver as a hunter main, while still a blast, makes me miss trap launcher that we got for ICC. Such an awesome quality of life change that i would love to be able to come back to on a single wotlk classic era server.

[@hesssy]

We absolutely need a permanent server for TBC

[@Logan6903]

TBC seasonal is going to wreck my marriage.. she’s going to take the kids and 1/2 of everything. I can’t fit this in my schedule. Don’t do it Blizz!!!

[@Contmotore]

Love your takes on a fresh Classic/Classic+ TBC server. But I'm afraid it won't be happening anytime soon... But I'll definitely sign the petition!

[@DaydeeTV]

My pipe dream is TBC w/o flying mounts. Add a few elevators where they used to be essential. Outlands is rather cool world, but it is all lost due to flying mounts imo

[@Ganily]

That would truly be hardcore TBC. Certain areas would be really difficult without flying mounts and I'm here for it.

[@miguelbp85]

Agree... flying mounts killed the game. And LFRaid, finished it.

[@coreyjonesmusic2859]

God I want to play TBC on a live server again

[@LabelRider_113]

Permanent TBC server please. No seasonal stuff, no changes, etc. just want to run around and explore mess with crafting and do the occasional dungeon with buddies. I’m a full time working, married father who have rare windows to game. Call me a casual, but I don’t think I’m alone in my realistic playtime. We don’t all have the time to raid or keep up with a cyclical progression server that resets just after we finally max level

[@brademerson8035]

The problem is that Blizzard is trying to get super casuals, super hardcore players, and everyone in between all playing the same game hoping they'll all love it, and it's just not going to happen. You need parallel versions of the game designed specifically for the people who wish to play at certain levels. If you have servers with difficulty even at the highest raids tuned to be beaten by pugs, and casual players with a great deal of flexibility (perhaps flexible raid attendance numbers), everyone on that server will be happy if that's what was advertised off the get-go. Alternatively, if you tout that you've tuned the raids to be difficult and still require 40 players (or whatever the case) to complete, the hardcore players will be happy, and they'll all likely flock to that server. There will be some people in the middle, and I'm sure there's a middle ground somewhere if a 3rd iteration was to be thought up, but even separating just these two extremes into separate game modes, per se, would be extremely beneficial. This is applicable to Vanilla especially, but to everything, really, at least up to WoTLK and possibly even Cata.

[@emceehamma3693]

your first sentence is literally the entire problem in a nutshell.

[@nairda8323]

Hardcore players should be playing Retail instead xD much harder

[@emceehamma3693]

@@nairda8323 I'm getting back into retail for that exact reason. I want to push highest tier content

[@nairda8323]

@@emceehamma3693 2vs2 arenas are amazing in my opinion

[@emceehamma3693]

@@nairda8323 I main a ret, so pvp is pretty much only ever my option to be "viable"

[@GalickTera]

What needs to happen is turning Cata classic into Classic+. All new content going forward not re-releasing lukewarm expansions so that it just becomes retail 2. Making more servers to further fragment the player population just kills the game.

[@migue.0]

You breefly mention it in the video but I really think TBC with no flying mounts would be insanely great. The world would feel much more alive, more world pvp for those who like it, more fighting for resources. And they can always add a flight path in Netherstorm for TK and the dungeons, which would require an attunement to use (since in original TBC the attunement is the flying mount itself).

[@brandoncastellano1858]

TBC was made with flying in mind though. Blades Edge would be a pain to navigate first off. But then you have Skettis, Kazzak, bombing runs, shadow moon valley’s netherwing faction, elemental plateau, and would you really want to run all the way through Auchidoun every single time? Flying is what’s needed for BC.

[@migue.0]

@@brandoncastellano1858 Do I really want to run all the way through Auchindoun every single time? I mean, you're better off going with a 100% ground mount than the 60% flying mount (cause you take a while to farm the gold for the quick one). That said, you can make the same argument with any vanilla dungeon. "Do I really want to run to BRD?" "Do I really want to run to Maraudon?". Yes, way more fun that than just flying there without any interaction with the terrain and no chance for a pvp encounter.

[@brandoncastellano1858]

@@migue.0 you do ignore the rest of the response of how many areas are locked out due to flying. What would be a suggestion for the rest?

[@migue.0]

@@brandoncastellano1858 Either add flight paths to those spots or modify the terrain so those zones are accessible by foot (this sounds harder than it actually is). You could even have npcs / portals that teleport you to some of these zones in the same way you can teleport to the Kazzak area from the Isle of Quel'Danas with that one quest.

[@Real-Ruby-Red]

I wont come back until they add at least 1 permenant wrath and/or 1 permenant tbc server. I don't care which one, both were the height of my childhood and I love and adore both. I loved classic when it came out but TBC was just classic+ for me and wrath was the best, I am so sad it ended, I tried doing sod but quit just after hitting the level cap.

[@Curtis_Plays_yt]

I want wow classic where the stories that are happening actually shift the world and develope and move boundaries and little things change but no huge expansions, just balance updates

[@KingPalegaze]

the idea of fully changing the loot tables is the best idea ive ever heard and it immediately changes the bis chase. incredible idea.

[@cmoney163]

Classic community doesn’t even know what it wants anymore lol. The community is so divided even if Blizzard released this TBC server or Classic plus, with RuneScape voting system, people would still say they messed it up. I feel like what they really want at the end of the day is Vanilla on repeat every year or two, and to be 14 again.

[@matthewjackson6489]

Playing loot musical chairs sounds like a great idea. That mixed with no gdkp and some tuning for ease of use would be a way better experience than whatever the fuck the last tbc classic was

[@LittleDeft]

Love your content. I think a randomizer style loot for bosses is a great idea. It is so sad how blizzard holds the keys but rarely takes the sports car out of the garage.

[@싸넬동지-7성담배]

Classic & SoD cured me from any nostalgia/enjoyment i had for old WoW versions I'm going on cooldown.

[@Sippinskooma]

This, i was hooked on classic/classic era played all the way up till they released cata classic. impo, im burned out from old content lol i think alot of the issue is people just dont wanna move on and realize wow isnt what it used to be, if you wanna play on a server dedicated to one Expac, go play on a private server, expecting blizzard to spend money to cater to a certain small demographic of their community is unrealistic and stupid lol

[@thetrumenshow2783]

I really miss tbc. has anybody else tried the felmyst private server? no addons but also no real money trading of any kind and boosting for gold isn't allowed. so far the people have been super nice and friendly which has honestly been a nice change from warmane's culture.

[@Sippinskooma]

I played private servers when i was younger and will never return lol PirateSoftware did a take on this where he said he'll never put time and effort into a server that at any moment can be shut down by blizzard, theres no guarentee that your work and progress is gonna be there the next day especially if blizzard decides they wanna shut it down

[@danielwalley6554]

This depends a lot on personal taste, but I find even TBC lost something of the original vanilla charm - mainly in terms of the world and encounters with other players. Flying in the outlands means you just don't run into people on foot as much, which was always my favorite part of the game. Running around places like Silithus or Winterspring and duking it out with people trying to farm rep is something that just feels kind of gone after vanilla - it is still there to an extent, but not to the same degree. I think a lot of what changed after vanilla is the game became increasingly impersonal, and that was one of the first steps down that road.

[@nashnya70]

TBC needs to be released as a rotational progression server. I do think some quality of life changes such as graphics and character models could be implemented. Perhaps even some engine refreshments. But what makes TBC so fucking amazing is that it has the original wow vanilla design still. It also makes sense that it does. For those wondering: TBC has MANY features in it that were originally scheduled to be released in vanilla. But after almost 4-5 years of development, Blizzard was about to go bankrupt if they did not release. So timetables were moved around and content had to be putten on ice before the game would never see light of day. Karazhan for example, was in original wow. But it was a more medieval setting and far from finished. Outland also had some mushroom type landscape. Eventually they scrapped this from Hellfire Peninsula. Of course we know some of the idea's were eventually brought back. The Mushrooms did make it into Zangarmarsh. There were so many things that were originally ment for Vanilla but didn't make it into the game. TBC was polished out and the content that was put on ice was brought out in TBC along with many additional features and content. except for some additional spells and ability's... nothing major was changed to the game design and its character/classes. This is why TBC FEELS like it is a prolongation of Vanilla. It is basically at its core, Vanilla... but expanded upon :D

[@TheSnikyT]

I have had such an amazing time in Season of Discovery from the beginning, I sincerely hope Blizzard continues this amazing version of their game into TBC (ofcourse my favourite expansion as a warlock main, brrrrr goes SEED SEED SEED ZUG ZUG) and it would be amazing to see how they could refine the best expansion ever released (and the first) :D

[@likemike422]

Would love a TBC fresh with account wide-attunements, xp and rep buffs and group buffs becoming raid wide with bloodlust reset

[@Stahl42]

I'd resub for a fresh TBC server with phased content. Something like SoD without all the crazy power infused runes.

[@Drogash]

new TBC server with everyone starting at lvl 1 sounds like a dream no double XP no boost just raw dawg

[@Arisderp]

Tbc is the best classic expansion imo. I’d love to see tbc server with raid wide bloodlust

[@wknowlesfilm]

Stacking bloodlust in a comp group was the best part of tbc - I remember blasting brutallus on my bm hunter getting two lusts

[@BlackRose3610]

Just started up on deviate delight in the “fresh” guilds - seems pretty solid so far.

[@emceehamma3693]

explain what that is, bc im looking for my wow version to play

[@BlackRose3610]

@@emceehamma3693 deviate delight is a classic era realm, where, 3 months ago, streamers started a community driver classic fresh. They can do so because it’s an RPPPVP server, with no auction house link across realms, and there were like 10 active players, so fairly fresh economy. The streamers haven’t logged on in like a month cuz hype chasing bht there’s a solid levelling pop and it feels cozy so far.

[@hibernian87]

IMO Classic + should use the talents and mechanic changes of TBC as a jumping off point too.

[@georgi_hrv]

Ah here we go again the TBC thirst that occurs every few years, then you get TBC, then you play it some, then you forget about it for a few years

[@oiyecant720]

I think people are realizing they took TBC for granted after thirsting over the nostalgia of WOTLK... and now have woken up to the fact that WOTLK was the beginning of the end

[@georgi_hrv]

@@oiyecant720 This has been the cycle ever since tbc was on retail except with private servers now it's happening on retail

[@wickednick1653]

Endless wow had so much potential to be the best TBC private epxerience and I don't know why people left, it is so sad :(

[@JakeWattsComposing]

Just signed, only so many Eversong Woods ASMR play throughs I can watch before going crazy that I'm not doing it myself. Just an off thought, they could even do 1 sever with a war mode type feature, for all the pvpers out there.

[@heylegd7098]

What TBC fresh actually needs: -Dual spec, no brainer. There's literally no reason not to include it. Paying 100g when I wanted to either pvp or farm on my paladin (50g to swap specs, 50g to go back to raiding spec) was balls. -Account wide attunements is an idea I have mixed feelings with, maybe have all your alts automatically attuned, but they don't have the keys automatically, so there's still the need for someone to be attuned in order to enter the raid. -HONORED for heroics instead of revered, from the start. Forcing the farm to revered sucks, specially if you don't have account wide attunements. Make having an alt in tbc viable. -Seal of Martyr/Blood and Vengeance/Corruption available for both factions. This was already done in tbc classic and was fantastic, no one should be forced into another faction in order to play their character how they like. Plus, there's a huge dps difference for sealtwisting pallies with seal of blood. Warmane Onyxia WON'T have this feature because tHeY wAnT tO kEeP iT jUsT LiKe tHe oRiGiNaL (even tho they have pay to win features lol), so I'm not interested in that. And nothing else. I wouldn't remove flying because outland is built based on the fact that you can fly, zones like Blade's Edge and Netherstorme would be total garbo without flying. Maybe have a 1m debuff on dismount where you can't be pvp flagged or something to avoid ppl abusing flying to gank on peeps, but idk. NO EXP BOOSTS AND NO PAID BOOSTS EITHER BECAUSE BOTS LOVE THAT SHIT.

[@15751Chris]

TBC FOREVER, TBC WARRIORS UNITE! Triple spec and win! After watching full video I agree with all these suggestions. But triple spec is a must. Pve spec X2 and 1 pvp spec is ultimate way to play.

[@Bilessati]

Was that some EQ2 origins content at 0:35? Love to see it.

[@oiyecant720]

Signed! I think a lot of people took classic TBC for granted due to the nostalgia of WOTLK... But TBC really was the last golden Era of the game since it was pre-heirloom, and I believe a lot of people have now realized that; myself included.

[@rickdavidson4272]

I like all your ideas MG ... I very personally would like for mages "increase mana regen" - Ive played through TBC twice and after I have worked like a dog to get attune/farm/BiS and organize my life for a raid night, if I get stuck raiding without mana support the whole raid night is a total drag. I like being paper thin, aggro intense, no healing ... I can no longer do TBC mana starved.

[@Localpref416]

My favorite thing about SoD was 1. Do the new event day one for 50x fhe reward because its over tuned then nerfed to give 1/50th the reward. Or 2, wait for blizzard to add "catch up" mechanics 6 week in to a patch that lasts 16 weeks.

[@arkadious9320]

Or. . they will release Classic +. A revamped classic experience with some more likely than not sight class tuning. which would also include Outland and all of the originally planned content because it was supposed to be in the original version of vanilla

[@qlalatheone]

Atunement are necessary for an era server (including an extra atunement for sunwell to avoid sw trash mob raid run).

[@T-sm1bs]

Id love for them to fix the attunement stuff, raid wide lust, and once you get max level your alts get joyous journeys

[@CowsLovesCake]

Interesting you start this video with a picture of a graph of SoD population in which you stopped the date range before p4 came out and there was a large resurgence in the player numbers. Did the fact the numbers have gone up by several orders of magnitude since p3 not play into your narrative too well?

[@Skullybot]

As long as there is no level boost this time around, i am in.

[@ArTeMMaXElite]

People please take the 1 minute to sign the petition, thank you! Make TBC great again!

[@Damnit1Lost]

Temporary servers remove any drive I have to progress. It's just integrating FOMO into the base game experience.

[@KelvinSuddith]

This only works if we decide we are okay with it not being TBC, and just an expansion based on the TBC expansion

[@FranklinSan]

I signed the petition, but I’d just be happy with a fresh server. Wouldn’t say no to easier attunement, would definitely make the alt-game stronger for sure.

[@Nuxyn]

signed! but, is it a pipedream? wish we had perma tbc, its my fav expansion (by far), but i really doubt it will happen. Blizz dont think like gamers, they think like businessmen, and TBC "may" increase subs initially, but it will die out naturally. Saying that, i REALLY hope they bring TBC servers out to the public.

[@claytonmurrayguitar]

Currently getting ready for Onyxia TBC 👊

[@andrewramsey7405]

TBC is my favourite expansion, but the War Within is outstanding! And may finish off Classic as a whole if the War Within keeps getting better. I love Classic but don't play it these days because of how good the War Within is.

[@MNPhantom]

"I play a vanilla server on a wotlk client" It's warmane huh B) Tbc prepatch came out yesterday for onyxia.

[@zenithquasar9623]

If they did Season of Discovery type thing but TBC, I'd play it!

[@Mug_O_Tea]

my idea for the classic world vanilla/tbc/wrath Wrath client. Wrath talents. Locked at 60 till you complete vanilla. Have it full progressive. You have to complete MC doing MC gives the key for zg and bwl. Clearing zg gives a key fragment and same for bwl which opens aq 20/40. Clraring those gives the key for naxx. Clearing naxx gives the key for karazhan or a fragment of it and it opens the he dark portal. Etc etc. Give solo queue arena and for 60 have standard points and buying items with points.

[@itachiaurion3198]

How could you progress Naxx 40 in a wrath client? It will already be on the WoTLK version, unless dev time is spended to have both at the same time wich would probably be a headache. The second issue with that is you can't enjoy this unless you play regularly from the start. If you don't jump on the bus or fall off you will be too far behind for the vanilla content or TBC content mattering because the top guilds are already on Naxxramas Wotlk or Ulduar.

[@Mug_O_Tea]

@@itachiaurion3198 yes of course that's a challenge but it's far from impossible as I know for sure that P Servers have done it. It's just an idea as well 🤩

[@incubi51]

I haven’t seen many classic players that love the leveling experience. Most got boosted from a mage pulling full dungeons.

[@Sippinskooma]

nobody loves leveling alts on the classic leveling experience lol

[@bloodcards3084]

I think classic plus is going to be announced this winter with sod wrapping up soon

[@The4Dev]

We need TBC back, absolutely. I've seen more outcry for them the past months.

[@itsado-so1iz]

Share the petition link in your discords and with friends! Lets make this happen!

[@JohnSmith-ry8tj]

I'm sorry but your take on this is WAY OFF! Blizzard deliberately tanked SOD. Why? Simple, they had a retail expansion coming and couldn't afford to have it flop. Just compare their approach in SOD from Phase 1 to Phase 3, it will tell you ALL you need to know. Blizzard knows that with this 20 year old game, they have a captive audience which swishes around between game versions, so they tilt the bowl in the direction they want their player base to go and with the help of content creators pushing along, the player base obliges them. No big mystery and this will continue until someone figures out how to make an actual MMO or everyone just gives up on the genre all together because it's a very limited player base.

[@Sippinskooma]

i was with you till you said MMO'S all together as a genre has a limited playerbase lol For example, Classic SOD has around 20k people on Crusader Strike US, and that's just one realm lol with multiple servers on retail having 20k plus as well, and that's only mentioning WOW lol Yes i agree that the retail expac might've affected SOD, but to say the genre has a "very limited" playerbase is just laughable as if there arent hundreds of thousands of people playing MMO's that aren't wow lol

[@JohnSmith-ry8tj]

@@Sippinskooma The problem with your take is math. You think 20k players is a lot, it isn't. The reason it isn't is because MMOs take a ton of money to develop. How would you like to own New World right about now? 150+ mil down the drain, not that Amazon can't afford it but you get my point. WoW retail is the cash cow: xpacs, cash shop, etc.. The classic player base contributes the monthly sub and that's only assuming they don't play retail. Any time you really want to understand something, just get a calculator out, it explains everything without the shaping, framing, positioning or packaging.

[@Sippinskooma]

@@JohnSmith-ry8tj my comment and the mention of playerbase was mainly pertaining to one server tho, 20k is alot for a single server, with multiple servers on the game reaching the same playercount. Not only pertaining to retail. With a few Cata classic realms eclipsing the same numbers. if you look at it like that, yea of course 20k isnt alot, but if you look at it as 20k players on 4 servers, Thats 80k people split between 4 servers, which is alot of people imo lol

[@anavgamerican2251]

Warmane is about the least sketchy private server and is about to launch TBC with some QOL improvements

[@arisenfromash6489]

Nothing was ever better than TBC

[@ComradeAndrej]

I agree with everything, buy would like to add the most important thing if the servers come, you HAVE TO balance racials in TBC. It's for balancing alliance - horde population and tbh it's just boring seeing everyone run orc/troll for pve and orc/undead for pvp...

[@bradenalexander1568]

I see two viable options: 1. Vanilla > TBC > Wrath on 3 year cycles 2. TBC era with an accompanying seasonal server after the first year. At the end of each season, your characters get transferred to era and a new fresh would launch. The same would apply with the Wrath client, but I would stagger the launch and content releases so that players can play both so the players won't be overwhelmed with content from both at the same time while also not suffering through a drought between phases. Also, implement the ability to copy your characters from classic era to TBC and from TBC to Wrath and even classic to Wrath. In both options I would like to see dual spec as well as shared reputation between characters on a single account. Grinding out reputation from ground zero on every alt is stupid as f*ck and nobody enjoys it. One of the reasons people didn't like TBC was because it was inherently grind heavy. Common sense QoL changes like dual spec and shared reputation for alts would be a sensible addition that I believe would encourage some of the TBC haters to look favorably upon the expansion. I prefer option 1 because I think it is healthy to have separation. 'Absence makes the heart grow fonder, familiarity breeds contempt' is a phrase that I believe applies, at least for me, in this scenario. But everyone is different, and I don't think forcing that view onto other players is the right thing to do. I would honestly be happy with either one!

[@marshallmcelmurry7087]

Option 1 would keep me invested permanently.... Just sayin...

[@yeahhsp]

Im also for Option 1, but with like 3-4 month per phase or so.

[@theradhattah1435]

I agree with option 1. I would literally never stop playing. As long as at the end of the cycle the characters are wiped and servers are fresh

[@OBudful]

The World of Warcraft experience is the journey from Vanilla to WOTLK. You think you want permanent TBC era servers but you really don’t. Proof is that Vanilla serv are almost dead atm. People get bored. What Bli2 should do is resetting classic after the end of WOTLK. Making classic wow a permanent Vanilla - Wotlk loop. This my friends, is the way. I hope Bli2 will finally understand that it would also be the infinite money glitch 💰

[@yeahhsp]

@@OBudful 100% true

[@Koush88]

if you can get rid of your prejudice there is a vanilla pserver that is in its last phase and will transition into tbc in the coming months ive been playing it since it launched last year, yea it goes through phases very quickly which is perfect for my style of playing, i have been having a ton of fun in it. Doesnt really bother me if you join or not just putting it out there ;)

[@xmoxipavonispetinus8539]

People don't want warname full of scripters

[@Koush88]

@@xmoxipavonispetinus8539 some dont some do

[@olov244]

only thing I care about is allow us to duel wield dragonstrike like in original . I liked hyjal, but I always wonder what they could do to make it better so other people wouldn't hate running it

[@JeremyHollabaugh]

Cata classic was the end of WoW for me, I’m back on classic. I love the leveling, the difficulty, give me a proper classic plus or just TBC.

[@ArdynSol]

Okay, I have kind of a general question- I honestly never did much end game in Classic/Era mostly just leveled then made an alt and leveled again very casually. When they EVENTUALLY do some sort of fresh start- whether it's Classic/TBC/Hardcore I want to go all in. Should I start getting some practice in now on either Era or maybe this TBC Private server? Thanks for any feedback.

[@nickperez610]

Low lvl pvp backets where the best, you’d have no try hard just people geared through questing and dungeons. Occasionally you’ll have twink, but that’s the best. Now days everyone races to end game there’s no que’s

[@spaghettata6942]

men playing tbc another time with a less toxic guild would be amazing

[@tainicon4639]

The real classic plus, the holy trilogy… but reworked to all be level 60. Redo the talents to be an average of the 3, such that you get the optimizations and refinements of the first two expansions but in a vanilla package. Re itemize the gear around these modified talents and level 60 classes but don’t engineer excessive power creeep. Instead incentivize the acquisition of the new gear by having it be only marginally better but provide raid specific improvements (MC gear has fire resistance on it so you are rewarded for running MC, ICC has frost resistance… etc). Reputations should do the same, offering the required to progress in the raid if you can’t put skill things. Oh and improve the mechanics such that they are more engaging but don’t make them too hard as to chase away casuals. Instead make the difficulty come from the gear used, and provide optional achievements or cosmetics for running the raid with certain items levels or levels of resistance, etc…

[@snakebebop]

When I started playing WoW back in 2009 I was told TBC was a bad expansion. Once TBC Classic came out I realized that it's the best expansion WoW ever had. But one there's two changes I would like to see for a new TBC experience. First would be to bring a Plate specialization type thing to make it so that as a Ret, I won't have to roll on leather anymore. And second I don't want flying mounts. From a PvE player's perspective that would be a dumb thing to do, but from a PvP player's perspective it would bring back a huge boost to WPvP and just more player interaction's in general. Everyone complains about retail and how the game has been dumbed down, no social aspect, etc. Well flying mounts is the one thing that vanilla never had and players keep going back to. One last thing is no flying mounts would make Outlands feel like a much bigger world.

[@paradigmshift7541]

Good luck finding enough Shamans to stack your groups for Bloodlust, it was toxic as hell getting enough to satiate players.

[@ibrahimhakim6232]

Most of those ideas are great, only one “but”… It’s Activision we are talking about here. You probably will have a bigger chance to succeed by sending it in a letter to Santa on December!

[@ahidinger93]

era is fine and dandy always a nice time but having the option to play TBC would be really nice. dont change much just give us 1 pvp server with faction balance, pve and maybe an rp server per region. thats all it would take. no seasonal server just make them permanent. would love to wield stormherald and seal swap nerds again

[@ulrikskouboe1010]

We are all going through the portal in 2 days on the Warmane server.. with 12.000 players..... So we are not going to play Classic Classic before we are going through the portal again !!

[@fankrys]

balance the tank, in particular give paladin hand of reckoning. Tanks is often the bottle neck of group content, so re working classes to be better at it benefit everyone.

[@Kyriacos92]

i disaggree on the summon inside idea caz it will take out the immersion and impact aspect of the game raids location will look empty and this does not feel tbc classic. it would be nice tho to have 2 talent trees one classic tbc talent tree and one retail for runes and new spell that u learn each one every 10 or 15 levels for example!!so a talent tree and a rune tree or mastery tree

[@marioeguerrap]

Include: Heroic Modes of Vanilla Content Some spells from WotLK to avoid a 1-button rotation from several specs Redo some T6 content that was trivial (MH and the first 6 bosses of BT) Bloodlust should be raid wide, keep totems party-wide. This avoids shaman group swapping but still incentivizes the use for them in several groups. Slightly tune up/down several specs so they are slightly more balanced. EX. 2% nerf to Arc Mages, 4% buff to Moonkins, 3% Threat bump to Prot Warriors, etc etc etc. Legendaries should be a long quest chain Introduce class/spec based long quest chains for lore specific items per class/spec. Keep the original versions of dungeons throughout the entirety of the expansion, the nerfed versions become trivial after better gearing. Profession-based quest chains for item upgrades (EX. you can double enchant a certain item during a question chain, you can add a gem socket during another, you can lower CDs for item X, etc) HD-Models: The game is 20 years old and it **can** start to show.

[@Astruelo]

w video but the slow rotating in your damn edits GODD DAMn does that make me die

[@Radshak]

Thanks for what you do!

[@ajaakola2]

Oblivion is such a vibe game

[@michaelramos7026]

You anit slick, I hear that Skyrim: Dovahkin track

[@pipobimbo1072]

TBC with all the QoL changes that WOTLK can bring? Where do I sign? One thing I would add is actually using WOTLK Talent Trees too. Also soloQ and raid Rated Battleground.

[@paradigmshift7541]

Auras need to be raidwide, group stacking for buffs ruined TBC for me, always needed shaman or else it sucked.

[@johaadganor1684]

I would like numbers tweaks for classic servers. Just so its not predetermined that X class is Best in tier 4, and then Y class is garbage in tier 6. Was a bit of a bumber in WoTLK starting out knowing your class is good at the start and then falls off hard by the end of the expac.

[@h4l03rul3z]

1000 votes for a TBC classic server isn't even remotely enough to catch Blizzard's interest.

[@sproosemoose285]

any expansion where Warrior is top dps and the best tank has my vote!

[@Nomaxdd]

So there is Era, Hardcore, SoD, Cata and Retail and you want a TBC server too? idk about this

[@Sippinskooma]

what ive been saying, people stopped playing Cata cause they felt it was too far from being "classic wow" so they created classic era, now people are tired of vanilla content so they want a TBC server lol

[@sheetmetalcards7987]

The problem with classic is that there are too many versions and it is splitting the player base too much. I know people want a tbc server. I think it would be cool since I was unable to experience it a couple years ago. But I am not sure if it is worth splitting the player base even more

[@MetaGoblin]

The playerbase is already incredibly split by their own extremely different desires and needs from an mmo.

[@FrostyWoW]

Personally id love to see SoD go straight into TBC. Not a new expansion .. Just a new phase If AQ is phase 6 and naxx is phase 7. Make TBC phase 8 with the same spreading out the TBC content through 2 month phases.

[@daqimber]

its clear to me what Blizz wants , they want us to alternate between classic, SoD and retail Classic team is so small , there is low chance of adding TBC or WOTLK servers, unless they are convinced of a profit

[@Sippinskooma]

Well didn't they add classic era because people were complaining about cata classic? wouldnt adding TBC or WOTLK servers just take away from classics playerbase? theres no fix for it imo lol they shouldve stopped classic at WOTLK, they added the part of the game to classic that many refer to as the expac that "killed" the game lol so idk what they were expecting

[@espenmolde2148]

love it!! TBC hype

[@vytis47]

I'd love it but every TBC private server launch that was hype ended in disaster. Turtle WoW is holding me over. Bought TWW, went back after a week.

[@spowbits3696]

Twow is the only home where i can come back alwawys and never have the feeling of fomo

[@Bennyboy087]

If casual friendly means that casuals can do all forms of all the content then I think the notion is missing the mark. In OG WoW the raids got progressively harder with no difficulty settings what so ever. MC can still be done by the casual player with the difficulty ramped up with higher FR requirements for those more dedicated players. That doesn't mean casual players HAVE to do heat 3. This doesn't mean casual players have to do the bronze/blue/red/black trials in BWL. If the notion of casual friendly means that casual players can do every bit of content even the try hard players can then you'll lose the more hardcore players as well. I like the changes in SoD but I also don't want my raiding experience to be a snore fest. Casuals do easy mode, let the big boys do the harder difficulty.

[@Hraesvelg]

Should’ve put the call to action about the petition at the start of the video too!

[@OptiRaz]

The only reason TBC won the poll is because its the game people have forgotten about the most.

[@secretsecret1134]

Yeah we forgot because it's terrible.

[@Faustdc]

How did they miss the mark with MC having difficulty levels? If you want a more casual experience don't raid the higher difficulty?