Albums I Was WRONG About...

Sleep Token, Invent Animate, Memphis May Fire are all bands that I've had mixed opinions on. Have I changed my mind on the albums "This Place Will Become Your Tomb", "Greyview", and "The Hollow"? Subscribe for more honest music reaction / reviews and to discover new music.
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[@METALBIRB]

Thanks guys for watching. Hoping to get back into more of a routine and I hope you enjoy the discussion vids!

[@InnerWing5]

High Water's outro is one of the saddest angriest moment in Modern Metal.

[@TheNamesFathom]

the whole song just has a “melt into the floor and contemplate life” vibe to it

[@PSZEMKI]

Best ST riff

[@TheNamesFathom]

@@PSZEMKI yup there’s zero competition lmao

[@TheGirfGirf]

Something I saw in another comment thread - the outtro guitar section on High Water sounds like (is a representation of) drowning and being smashed against the rocks in the ocean. The longer notes in the riff are your chance you get to breathe as your head pops up above the waves. The rhythmic part is when you're being tossed around under the waves, battered against the rocks Then, the vocals come fading in, screaming, echoing, but... abrputly stop. Gives me chills every time. Worship!

[@LiquidThunder12]

TELOMERES is a masterpiece

[@ahsokatano4908]

God I love that song. Easily their most underrated song imo

[@Alexjh260]

Such a banger, had Telomeres as our first dance

[@vitaminme4203]

One of my favorites of them and of all time.

[@themcabbages77]

Descending and Like That are so much fun to play in the car with the bass turned all the way up

[@StarkMusic_]

That intro in Descending with the low end is just *chefs kiss*

[@ch_vky148]

Haha, yeap. And Descending is genuinely still one of the most experimental songs by them..and somehow has ridiculously small amount of attention by reviewers 🤷🏻‍♀️ It's a crime

[@dagordol9902]

Atlantic is still my most listened to song of all time on Spotify. That's a 10/10 album for me

[@Joeleon2]

I completely agree with Grayview. Marcus was new to IA and you could tell they weren’t quite sure where to go with him. The Sun Sleeps, As If It Never Was feels like the point where they figured out where to go with him, and Heavener was bringing the aspects in that EP out into various individual songs.

[@ItsAmplified]

The Hollow has always remained one of my favorite all time records

[@beebala3]

High Water is top 3 ST song for me. Lyrically maybe #1

[@inviz88]

TPWBYT is a fucking banger imo. Will be a future classic for sure.

[@missinbrain]

I discovered ST when Nik Nocturnal reacted to The Love You Want and he didn’t really like it. But I was so moved by it on first listen and pre ordered the vinyl right there. I’ve always thought it was funny my first exposure to them was watching a video of someone who wasn’t super into it. But I’m thankful he still exposed me to it!

[@LMonty10]

The fact that you ever doubted TPWBYT rooooookie 🙂 Glad you came to your senses

[@CavToken]

Second half of tomb is perfection. Great video by the way!

[@dravenripley9468]

Definitely going to need a part 2.

[@ksweet7865]

I would love a part 2 for this video!

[@eliodel240]

Fireside is one of my favorite songs of all times

[@seifdog6244]

Same

[@austintate7142]

TPWBYT is Sleep Token’s best album, change my mind.

[@ryancozzolino7832]

Might be a hot take, I’m not sure: IMO, TPWBYT is Sleep Token’s best album.

[@HackerArcade]

Man, the hollow is so nostalgic for me. One of the albums that shaped my highschool years

[@artistrankings6794]

i just listened to it the for the first time and can I ask why its so popular? its rly consistent but every song sounds like the same except the last three

[@eliyugend4660]

@@artistrankings6794 i loved it when i was in high school, and my memory of it and slight revisiting (don't love it so much now but still appreciate) is that it's just really solid crabcore; certainly not reinventing the wheel or anything, but very reliable

[@HackerArcade]

@@artistrankings6794 back then it was groundbreaking for the metal core genre, now the genre has evolved so much it definitely sounds basic but you just have to put yourself in that time

[@Pastronameat]

This place will become your tomb was the first sleep token album I heard. I don’t know, maybe I’m biased, but it’s my favorite album of all time

[@saranaturegirl123]

I've introduced people to ST playing Telemeres. Bit Coldplay-esque imho, in the best possible way of course.

[@sintaxera]

Finally someone who agrees with the coldplay thing

[@saranaturegirl123]

@@sintaxera haha ✋

[@McYates24]

II's drumming on that ST album is incredible... Telomeres is probably still my fav ST song

[@nerdyoutube7847]

Brightwing is immensely underrated for me

[@lizzsaeglopur8666]

This place will become your tomb simply took my heart away

[@midnighthymn]

When Grevyview came out I put that album through the dang ringer, but it’s grown on my tremendously, too. 4. Heavens 3. Greyview 2. Everchanger 1. Stillworld

[@mixtape2185]

the Hollow was SO GOOD back in the day.... never listened to anything after that

[@mmf-rules]

Personally, I found The Hollow like one of the most original albums of those years, most of the bands at the scene got the Atttack Attack!/Asking Alexandria type of Electronicore, and the way MMF mixes the instruments with synths and eletronic elements sounds pretty modern to me and still sounding like something that was release like 2 months ago or something like that (despite most of the modern bands made trap beats with emo stuff combining with no sense and a cohesive concept these days). But, my favorite album (tied with Remade In Misery, that was an strong comeback after 4 years with nothing new since Broken) is definitely Challenger, the tempo changes, Matty's falsettos, Kellen' riffs and Jake's drum fills are a masterclass of how to make a balanced metalcore album and still being iconic, and then Uncoditional was released and the southern metal vibes with Metalcore was a gift and hug to our hearts, lyrics are explicitly honest, and the remastered edition was on point of what the album was looking for. This Light I Hold and Broken were the Rock era of the band, the way they wanted to try rock stuff in an easier way to understand what's next for them, and with the passing time, some tracks hit the radio (so, it worked for them). Really thankful to those album for make them capable to mix Rock and Metalcore in a succesful way with songs like Misery, Make Believe, and Bleed Me Dry in Remade In Misery. You should check those materials having in mind what the album is trying to do for the listener and the result of it. And now MMF is on their PRIME era, and I hope this new album mixes a lot more heavy, rock, and experimental stuff, thinking out of the box, and that's how their are more closer to Metal's throne than ever before (even The Hollow itself), so excited tbh.

[@JackVGM]

One of the reasons I didn't get super into Sleep Token until TMBTE singles started releasing was because on a first listen I wasn't huge into TPWBYT but since going back to it the album has become one of my favourites since I can really appreciate it for what it is and it tells a super cohesive story throughout the album, TMBTE and Sundowning probably have more individual bangers on them but as a full album TPWBYT flows the best for me

[@brandonb.5304]

I love TWBYT, but Missing Limbs has always been a skip song for me. Saw it live and it was fine, but it's never been a song that's caught my attention and captivated me. People compare it (feeling wise) to Euclid, but I find Euclid to be such a better song musically, so much more interesting. I think the album suffers ending on such a forgettable song. It would have been better to end on High Water.

[@mylesfell7589]

It’s good to change bro. Sometimes it’s where we are at mentally as to how we process songs and albums. Nice to see you revisit a few.

[@roninsohei]

MMF is a guilty pleasure for me. I know they're not doing anything amazing but I do absolutely love this album. As far as Sleep Token goes; Take Me Back To Eden actually made me love This place Will Be Your Tomb more! I don't know why, but that's the Sleep Token album I enjoy from start to finish the most.

[@ShayneMacGregor]

Was never much of a Memphis May Fire listener/fan, until I saw them live. I was pretty blown away by Mattys vocals live. The band had great energy too, really changed my perspective on the band.

[@jlynnb1]

i honestly think if MMF weren't christian they wouldn't get haldfrhe "generic" flack that they do. Matty is a top tier vocalist, Kellen writes great riffs. Jake and Corey are an underrated rhtythm section. I do think they were better with a second guitarist....but all they'd have to do is go the Gideon route and everyone would love them lol.

[@AutomaticDuck300]

I was the same as you. Never fully enjoyed Invent Animate but I see the appeal. It’s growing on me.

[@christianhackl474]

To sleep token's case: Nice, I always loved telomeres! This and high water are both my Favs on that album, Atlantic and hypnotic are close seconds! :)

[@jellyglonut744]

I have been begging for years for Memphis May Fire instrumentals. And with Chaotic and Paralyzed they finally did it, and then took it up a notch releasing a cappellas (Which are hella ready for an EDM mix btw)

[@mesmer6131]

The Hollow was the first metalcore album I've heard and what got me into metalcore. I could still remember how blown away and happy I was when discovering this album and the genre as a whole. But their new stuff, I don't dig it, still prefer listening to The Hollow than the rest of their albums.

[@sintaxera]

High water is their best song. Change my mind. And good luck

[@Embersword281]

glad to hear you turned around a bit on Greyview, Heavener is the better record for sure but Greyview has a lot going for it. As you mentioned though, by the time Heavener came around, they found their sound with Marcus and really honed in on a sound they could make truly special.

[@domnvlst5031]

This place will become your tomb is probably my favorite album of all time. Telomeres, high water, and missing limbs especially

[@derivinity]

Greyview definitely works better as a whole, if you have 53 minutes to listen, it creates such a great soundscape, even though it does blend together in the last half. Heavener does that AND each song can stand on its own, like you said. I can't remember the order of half the songs on greyview, but i could instantly tell you which song comes on when on heavener. 100% will admit i am a fanboy lol. Stillworld is still one of my happy places too.

[@AndreasKingMedia]

I feel like you've got to check out 'Sleepwalking' from MMF (the previous album), it's a lot more of the southern riffage than 'The Hollow' which I totally agree with your take on.

[@Wiggz22]

Controversial opinion, I actually like the second half of tomb more. You hit the nail on the head about ST’s writing tendencies. Slow build into everything coming together for a bit then it ramps down into an outro. I feel like the second half had more diversity to it than the first half - 2/3 of the album (other than Fall for Me).

[@BoonerGotMossed]

Hypnosis is probably one of my favorite Sleep Token songs

[@OG-PranksterCat]

I saw the title of the video and immediately thought, everything from Erra prior to their 2021 Self-Titled album 😂

[@AppleFillet]

the audio clips in the video do not sound clear. idk why kinda the same with your mic, they are almost slightly muffled and drowned out. I just compared to the official Monarch audio on youtube and it sounded much clearer to me as well.

[@patrickstar6247]

Did you ever hear ‘Remade In Misery’ in full? I think there’s some stuff on there that’ll surprise you like Death Inside, The American Dream and Only Human.

[@daveckel]

THANK YOU FOR AKNOWLEDGING DESCENDING!!! Haha no kidding I think it’s the most underrated sleep tonen song !!

[@barnabyijt5012]

interesting!, love heavener, but I personally feel Greyview is more of a straight shooter, the guitar work is clear, the ambience sits above the riffs and acts more ornamentally rather than drowning it. If it makes sense, I was heavener obsessed when it was released, didn't listen to much else, difference is, I'm still jamming Greyview at least weekly now.

[@mtempz3165]

Completely agree with Vessels writing. He is insanely talented. Like the band or not, he is a Gem

[@BoonerGotMossed]

Cloud Cascade is a banger of a song!

[@vxoblivionxv]

I know it might be recency bias, but heavener has quickly become like a top 3 all time favorite for me. Greyview sounds like good melotic metalcore, but only Heavener sounds like heavener.

[@ChristianLittle1325]

The hollow is such an under appreciated album.

[@syntezjaofficial4240]

Telomeres and Atlantic got me right after first listen, pretty good album. Just Take Me Back To Eden took this band to another level.

[@chunktaa]

Secret Sun / Eden are 🔥🔥🔥

[@lancehildebrand4025]

I always thought MMF's Between the Lies EP was that perfect goldilocks between that pure southern filth and their eventual Risecore demise.

[@neilkennethofficial]

Be Careful What You Wish For still holds up IMO. Trivia: They re-used the same breakdown in that song for "The Haunted" in The Hollow album with some few changes.

[@Sillyygxrl]

I love missing limbs one of my favorite songs

[@loz6445]

This Place Will Become Your Tomb is so much fuckin better than Take Me Back To Eden. Eden has the better guitar tones, but thats basically it. Tomb is muuuuuuuuuch better

[@AveragePunEnjoyer]

I feel the opposite about The Hollow. Love The Sinner but never really care for the other tracks. Weirdly enough, I love Challenger and even Unconditional to some extent even though those albums are even more generic Risecore

[@TeeBagGee]

Look, finally hearing missing limbs live was a religious experience.

[@sirdo946]

Heavener is nowhere near as technical and complex as Greyview. They watered their sound waaaay down for Heavener, which works and makes it more accessible (i still love it). But to compare it to Greyview compositionally is just... come on. Though, if Without A Whisper is your favorite Invent song, it makes sense in the context of your tastes.

[@user-jd2kv1mr7m]

they are all overplayed already, and we haven’t even made it past the half way point of this decade

[@carriefish]

Tomb is so 🫶🏻✨️

[@andrewhilton7557]

I might be the minority but grayview is my favorite ia album

[@PSZEMKI]

Id say TMBTE is the worst ST album😅 still 10/10 but I think its to all over the place and incoherent. Love it tho

[@PSZEMKI]

Sundowning GOAT

[@midnighthymn]

Heavens was disappointing to me to be honest. It seems like they actually LOST their unique sound for Deftones-core.

[@tylerseidel809]

Tomb is best token, fight me

[@vaporoaroar]

Fun video idea 😊 I would love a revisit on Darker Still by PW. “If a god can bleed” is still atrocious, but I believe a lot of the non-singles holds up.

[@itsonlyhugs9486]

Sleep Token doesn't have a single song I like.

[@user-jd2kv1mr7m]

Sleeptoken became a fuckboy vibes band the more popular they got

[@pharm30]

Agree with ST take 👍🏻. Don’t find myself going back to listen to that album

[@synleth]

I’ve never understood the hype behind ST. The production and mix is great but idk nothing really hits

[@0owmjapo0]

I hate the sleep token vocals soooooo much