METAMORPHOSIS (S1E02) Clark Floating, Bug Boy, Suspending Disbelief & Hidden Messaging

[@rochirudabart7880]

About Tom’s question at the end, Clark floated several times later on the show, he floated to the caves and woke up right there when Lex entered, once in the middle of the street and in the end dancing with Lois at the Homecoming episode when Bug Guy reappears.

[@ryandeffley7652]

He was referencing that specific convo never being brought up again which always bugged me too. I would've loved in Rosetta when Clark talked about sleep flying if Johnathan had said "At least last year you didn't leave your room when you were floating above your bed."

[@redlox2]

Yup the specific scene is never referenced. Clark has jokingly said he is earthbound (when he is no longer controlled by Jor-El) seemingly to show he considers flight not possibly (at least till he meets other Kyptonians who can fly freely like Zod and kara).

[@nicklor24]

@@ryandeffley7652 I took it as Jonathan & Martha were taken back and didn't know how to deal with the floating. So they didn't mention it. That was just my take on it.

[@ryandeffley7652]

@@nicklor24 - I think they could've done a one liner with any of the "anti gravity" moments just for continuity purposes. It's always nice when stuff links up. It could've been cool with Johnathan/Clark talking in Vortex about the tornado or the scene from Rosetta I mentioned, etc.. Or like in Insurgence when Clark does the super leap of faith from the DP and Johnathan says "This is a big step up from floating above your bed" etc..

[@gregarious7731]

If I remember right don't they also address it to some degree in season finale of Season 3? I feel like I remember Kara mentioning something about Jor-El teaching him to be able to fly instead of floating while sleeping.

[@insideofyoupodcast2510]

Hey it's Rosenbaum here. yes. It's really me. Just thanking all of you for listening and watching. We are working out the kinks and trying to make a better show each week. Unfortunately we filmed a chunk of these and on Tom's end... the sound isn't ideal. Bear with us. It will get really good after episode 6. Much love to all and thanks for the continued support. Love, Michael Rosenbaum

[@kurtboneschans560]

This is a lot of fun. You guys are doing great. Another count you might want to consider is which character had the most "cheesy" one liner's on the show referring to other movies or TV shows. For example when Pete says "I heard someone tried to go all "Swimfan" on Lana in S3. Seems to me Lana and Chloe had alot of those. Poor them. lol Thanks again for making these pod casts.

[@mrtommypickelz3441]

You guys have done a fantastic job. Thank you guys for hosting this podcast!

[@CrazyLocoInsane1]

Lol sure buddy and I am the king of England.

[@benjaminjohnson4230]

Kinks or no... I'm watching the heck outta this podcast! You guys rock!! Keep it up!!!

[@corinneroussille9034]

I d kiné tout hear subtitles in French because I don’t understand English totally

[@Alienfodder]

I know I'm very, very late on commenting, but one thing I love about Lex is that his character had this really great ambiguity when it came to his true motives. I always believed that he only wanted the best for Clark, his family and Lana but it would have been easy to think the opposite.

[@Margotrivera1980]

I always thought he just wanted to be enough for someone and he tried to prove to Clark that he could be trusted and Clark could just never take the leap to trust him

[@christopherlee8989]

I'm so glad that Tom owes Mike enough money that we get 269 more episodes of this

[@stoic_1394]

Why does Tom Welling owe Michael Rosenbaum money?

[@christopherlee8989]

@@stoic_1394 I don't know, I just remember in the first episode that's what he said, that he owes Michael a considerable amount of money, and Michael asked Tom, instead of paying him back the money, do the podcast rewatching Smallville and help him earn it.

[@stoic_1394]

@@christopherlee8989 Yeah I saw that too in the first episode, I thought he was joking lol. But you won't hear me complaining if it's true, because it brought us this amazing podcast

[@christopherlee8989]

@@stoic_1394 same man. I'm happy they agreed to do this

[@chud1858]

@@stoic_1394 Tom owes Mike money for the Porsche Tom ruined when he hit Mike driving on the bridge.

[@sacredspace.]

I love the quote from this episode: Lana told Clark “Life is about change, sometimes its painful, sometimes its beautiful but most of the time its both” Smalllville had so many gems like this throughout.

[@carnthecorby]

100%. I was going through something hard with a girl 3 years ago when I first heard Lana say that and it gave me some perspective about life 👌

[@Dominatorri]

"As much as some things change, some things always remain the same" - Pete

[@Broth8492]

Smallville scenarists did an AMAZING job in terms of dialogues and ligns 👌 Every season, you get inspiring quotes and life lesson as well as some witty humor in it.

[@TheNin-Jedi]

Smallville had so many amazing quotes over the years. Two of my favorites come from Season 7. "In textbook talk, Isis is the goddess of love, and life, and healing. She even marched to the ends of the earth to help jump-start the man she loved. What the textbook left out is that Isis is also the Goddess of the underworld. She's responsible for bringing the Great God Ra (the man she loved) to his knees."- Chloe Sullivan-Smallville (Season 7, Episode 7: Wrath) "My father often reminded me that despite the power of the sun, it's always night on half the planet. For all the good you do, there will always be darkness. People who would kill you or abuse your power for their own gain."- Patricia Swann-Smallville (Season 7, Episode 14:Traveler) Those quotes made such an impact on my life that I still have them saved to this day.

[@andieweigner]

I swear she didn’t say that until the episode where Nell was moving to Metropolis and Lana moved in with Chloe.

[@TheeLeodraco]

24:45 yo imagine being in a hotel restaurant, the Remy zero song starts playing, and THEN Tom welling walks in lolololol

[@modelno2004]

This episode was fairly significant in the long term. “Bug boy” returns in the final season at the Smallville High reunion (“Homecoming”) and tells Lois how impactful Clark was to his life, ultimately in a positive way. It’s one of the rare times we see a ‘freak of the week’ return, and he doesn’t even want a round 2 fight situation.

[@simontchang]

Ahh right I knew it was either him or the electric boy from the pilot that came back, thanks.

[@shiningnight12]

Mannnnn that episode homecoming was great. A nice reflection episode of the entire series. Plus Brainiac 5

[@gatensgirl6932]

Wow, I'm so impressed you remembered this! I literally got finished with the series this year, and I forgot about that!

[@joedavis9842]

Was just about to say the same thing. I loved that episode because he was questioning every decision and doubting himself in that season, and that episode was more of showing how big of an impact he has had in the past and the impact he makes in the future.

[@jessicavessica]

Aha - Tom was right! Bug Boy wasn't dead after all!

[@JDSharar13]

Tom is 100% right about the show earning the special effects. We all wanted to see Clark do cool shit, but they never just handed it to us, it always came as part of the story and it made the payoff way more satisfying as a viewer

[@TalkVillePodcast]

well said bud

[@tabxtra7057]

The superspeed effects on smallville are better then on Flash..

[@JDSharar13]

@@TalkVillePodcast a reply from talkville?! You just made my day, can’t wait to see next week already!

[@ninjanibba4259]

@@tabxtra7057 shameful isn't it, as time goes on it's supposed to get better not worse

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

@@ninjanibba4259 FACTS I've been saying a similar subject about the 2008-2012 early movies on the Marvel Cinematic Universe vs the Marvel Cinematic Universe/Disney plus shows we have now. Hell even Love and Thunder vfx sucks so bad that even the director came out and admitted that his movie sucks

[@terrymcginnis2878]

I feel that this episode established the theme of the series, Clark has a heroic complexity thanks to his upbringing by The Kents, Lex is suspicious by nature but his intention are genuinely pure in his friendship to Clark. The whole Scooby-Doo mystery with Pete, Clark and Chole figuring out the plot of Greg abilities as a result of exposure to kryptonite laced bugs was very much establishing Clark’s interest in Investigative reporting a nod to his future career as reporter for the Daily planet.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

well said, this kick starts a lot

[@ricardomiles2957]

I think most of Lex's creep vibes comes from his upbringing. The way he interacts with people is like he's trying to make a bussiness deal. Plus his loneliness that's makes him desperate to befriend

[@-M0LE]

That’s a great theory

[@l3layze]

One of the interesting character traits in the comics for Lex is that he IS smart enough to figure out that Clark is Superman, BUUUT he refuses to believe that someone with all that power would want to live as a normal person and not use this power. It's a testament to Lex's lust for Power

[@danielduvall22]

198 episodes from now Michael will be surprised to find out that “Bug Boy” did in fact survive.

[@edelmar17]

😂 Michael scolding Tom for leaving a voicemail question when he himself left one asking about taking his shirt off lol

[@Stop_It_Just_Stop]

Honestly, Rosenbaum being nervous in the beginning worked perfectly with the story. The more evil Lex got, the more swagger he had.

[@daniellewilliams3959]

Unlike others, I really enjoyed the set-up of the "freak of the week." It was interesting learning all of the different ways the meteor shower/kryptonite affected people. And it also gave Clark 'practice' saving people/fighting bad guys. What this episode really started too was the odd fascination literally every character ends up having with Lana. Poor thing. lol

[@TCTUnlimited]

"Sometimes you're the windshield, Sometimes you're the bug!" Is a really good line. One of my favorites in the show

[@TalkVillePodcast]

agreed, great line

[@starlighter93]

1:04:23 I will sound like a total weirdo, but a few years ago when I watched through the series again, I actually wrote a list that in every season who was saved by who and how many times, who had died and who had found out Clark's secret and how many of them stayed alive or just forgot the secret. :D To Tom's specific question, Lois is the winner, in total she was saved 58 times, though not only by Clark. On 2nd place, it's Clark himself, he was saved 54 times. 3rd place is for Chloe with 48 times, then Lana with 41 and finally Lex with 35. These are the top 5. :D As to how many people Clark saved, the cheap answer is that he saved the whole world like 5 times. :D I didn't write down what exactly happened, so I only remember the finale of the series, but I guess everybody knows about that.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

love that this exists

[@vbrandy7088]

All these savings let's see if they end up with the same numbers at the end of the podcast ;)! But Tom's question wasn't how many times each characters were saved on the show, it was who Clark saved the most.

[@shariweber2291]

@@vbrandy7088 I got really curious and looked up some stats and crunched the numbers and Lois still wins with about 44. Chloe 34, Lana 32, and Lex 30 times. I say "about" because I included characters' possessions and partial/attempted saves such as when Clark stopped Lois from suffering "cosmetic acupuncture" in Facade but then needed to be saved by Lois because of kryptonite.

[@deecobb9018]

The record of saves : was that deliberately written in thr writing? Nifty

[@tomwadek]

The Calling “Wherever You Will Go” playing at the end when Clark returns the necklace was such a great scene.

[@emiddleb2]

The music of Smallville brings back all my emotions from that time. I was 18 when the show debuted.

[@kdhoward83]

@@emiddleb2 It’s great to hear someone else feel this way.

[@ThatOneDude219]

A shame they only released 2 soundtracks

[@rosiealiceb]

The music on this show is amazing. I built my own soundtrack on Amazon music as I worked my way through all the series!

[@gatensgirl6932]

@@ThatOneDude219 ooh, I wonder if anyone on Spotify has made an unofficial playlist???

[@KartikChainani]

I love how Rosey’s save count doesn’t include Clark’s first save; Lex.

[@luckyDancer100]

Yes!

[@maireadsbookshelves]

Came here to say this!! I would also say that baby Clark saved Martha and Jonathan from the car.

[@ryanbennett1933]

Right??? Isaid that to myself each time they rehashed the saves

[@protalghulnist4126]

@@maireadsbookshelvesYeah but it’s not written that way in the show until a later episode, in the pilot the Kent’s just wake up in a flipped over truck and see baby clark out the window, the next shit just shows them holding him with no indication of any saving.

[@VioletEmerald]

​@@ryanbennett1933yeah is this a joke that they didn't ever catch that Lex was saved?? I'm still watching but does no one notice before they air this? Do they notice the next podcast episode?

[@beautifulsoul150]

I love when Tom babbles. I can listen to his stories all day.

[@shawn2587]

Wow, you’ve been on KZbin a long time.

[@beautifulsoul150]

@@shawn2587 pretty much since it started lol

[@Kevin-gb8gb]

So have you.​@@shawn2587

[@ChadStormTheAftermath]

I never made the connection the "zits" were "bug bites". Great observation, Ms. Welling!

[@TalkVillePodcast]

right!?!

[@KateSuhrgirlPlays]

Same. Always assumed he was just a nerd with bad acne.

[@dtnetlurker]

They might have had a bug incident where the bites are explained but as is the case with most shows in the sci-fi genere, it got cut for time and might not have even made it to filming.

[@BluDemonOzzy]

Wouldn't it be funny if after Lex closes the box, he's like "wait a second" opens it again and closes it like 5 times, watching Clark's reaction.

[@noemimondini5050]

It'd be so funny🤣🤣

[@RedK5]

@@noemimondini5050 yep

[@RitsychServare]

"omg you're allergic!" what he'd say

[@HeyTash]

😂😂

[@mariahdibben4066]

ahahahahahahaha and Clark's just like STOP IT

[@cyndigirl418]

I'm currently re-watching all episodes, and I'm on Season 8. As an adult now in my 40's, I have a greater appreciation for the character arcs and journeys taken by many on the show. I'm so glad that we have this masterpiece of a show to look back on and share with younger generations! This is definitely one of the greatest series of all time, and I thank you all for the sacrifice and dedication you gave to bring this brilliance to our lives! ❤❤

[@jmace2424]

The more time passes the more I appreciate how special Smallville is.

[@urieldiaz8504]

It was barely mentioned but the scenes showing off Clark's super speed were well done showing how a "speedster" reacts or time slows down. Especially in the later season how it kind of has those waves emanating from him to visually show you that he has sped up. One of the best visual effects that represent speed to date imo.

[@Zachary-]

Still the best representation of super speed. Some modern movies could learn something from Smallville.

[@danielocean3699]

Tom is a lot more thoughtful about this stuff than I would’ve expected

[@FrederickLopez]

Got to love the use of Papa Roach on a bug episode. Smallville always had an amazing soundtrack over the ten years. It was great revisiting this episode.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

great subtleties.

[@cheesychickengran]

I love that you both don't think you are watching yourself. Michael questioning if Lex is creepy with Lana 😂

[@pillarpod]

Michael is so unfiltered, it's amazing. So happy you two are doing this! Always loved Smallville growing up.

[@Youcantdothatbud]

It's like looking in the mirror for me I have Tom's demeanor but Rosenbaums witty humor not to sound like I'm braging but I'm funnier and it makes this watching this so much better ❤❤

[@ejhumphrey5383]

I can't get over how Lex immediately became Clark's hype man by telling Clark to bring Lana her necklace. Talk about best friend of the year award

[@kristenballinger500]

Greg “bug boy” shows up again in season 10 in the Homecoming episode which is one of my favorite episodes of the whole series! The Homecoming episode also addresses Clark’s flight again. Him shedding the weight of the past and having the support and love from Lois gets him to float/fly at the end of the episode when they are dancing. Which it seems he doesn’t even realize he is is doing it.

[@ailene_e]

Yes I loved that call back all the way to episode 2 and getting the same actor too!

[@jessicabarrett3603]

Good memory! I thought Bug Boy didn’t die either. I agree this is also my one of my fav episode! It had the best song and it was a callback to Clark’s past. I CANT wait until we get that far!

[@rgvguy]

He even mentions the positive impact that Clark had on him and apparently helped him change his life around which was a bit of twist

[@thebatmanbadass30000]

Definitely my favorite episode so awesome

[@edelmar17]

Yes I agree. I remember Clark saying something to the affect of “let’s not worry about anything else right now, let’s just live in the moment” and they start the slow dancing and that’s when he is able to float

[@cannon9521]

This show is so 2000s and I love every minute of it. When they play wherever you will go by the calling it was this beautiful mix of ironically enjoying the song while also very honestly feeling the moment. God I love smallville

[@TalkVillePodcast]

well said :)

[@alw5101]

Truth spoken 👍✨🤍

[@jasonchamberlain1267]

I like how they brought the bug guy back for the 200th episode, and he's there to thank Clark for helping him!

[@ArmandoOriz_]

Spoiler*

[@vlogdaThalli]

I can't believe it! After this episode, I want to re-watch the first season again. My favorite scene is when Lana says, 'Did you realize you could see my house from here?' and Clark quickly moves the telescope. 😂😂😂

[@SnarkyPhysicist]

“You were tied to a stake in the middle of a field. Even the Romans saved that for special occasions.“ That was it for me. Don’t ask why, but I absolutely fell in love with Lex at that line. Also, about bug boy’s death! He comes back in the finale, raving about how Clark inspired him to be a better person back when they were in high school. By, um, crushing him under a slab? I guess it was a very inspiring slab.

[@TMSokoya]

Greg did that to himself if you watch that scene again. Also, Clark warned him earlier that he was becoming a slave to his instincts, but Greg didn't listen at the time.

[@garrettmick3618]

Not the finale! He comes back in "Homecoming", the 200th episode. Yeah, he definitely didn't die in Metamorphosis. :)

[@lpphillyfan]

I rewatched that line like 10 times. Lol

[@Brook11223]

I loved that scene with Clark Kent being scared about the abilities he is having and the floating was a nice one because fathers are supposed to know the answers and you can tell he badly wants to help his son and doesn't know what to say. It is very much Clark Kent going through growing pains, puberty with powers. I feel they should've explored Jonathan and Martha helping Clark navigate with his abilities but I feel everytime he had a "Freak of the week" to deal with it.

[@terrymcginnis2878]

The show really did a great job in showcasing how instrumental both Jonathan and Martha were pivotal in helping Clark adjust to his emerging powers and how supportive they were in guiding him to use them responsibly. As a result Clark took it upon himself to help those in need whenever the opportunity presented itself which often came through a confrontation with the freek of the week villain or Saving people in Smallville to eventually the world ultimately.

[@ck_sidekick8306]

I just want to say to Tom: The babbling is precicely why I'm here. I can absolutely listen to 15 min of conversation about the episode itself, and 45 of you and Rosie shooting the breeze about "life on set".

[@VioletEmerald]

Same :)

[@ruanialuvizotto2521]

I discovered Lifehouse because of Smallville and they are my favorite band to this day. I know all of their songs and they inspire me so much! Smallville soundtrack was always amazing!

[@latifahraleb2137]

Agree

[@goodknightmoon7733]

On one hand, I'm sad I didn't hear about this podcast sooner. On the other hand, I have a whole year of episodes to binge as much as I'd like 😃

[@rejeananicole3432]

"WHO'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF MY BUGS?????" My husband and I died laughing. Who can take that line seriously? The funniest line in the show. 😂😂😂

[@MalcomMcLeod]

I have to say the visual effects especially for Clark's super speed scenes was really well done. You could see Tom really doing the stunts. With something like The Flash you can see when Barry turns into a CGI puppet and it just doesn't have the same impact a lot of the times.

[@Brook11223]

When I saw "Hot Head" I didn't realize that you got Dan Lauria from Wonder Years playing the unhinged Football coach. That was awesome. The guest stars always helped the show elevate.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

crazy right!

[@Brook11223]

@@TalkVillePodcast It surely was. I remember him also guest starring on Boy Meets World which is another show I enjoyed during the 90's.

[@quantumrobin4627]

I never missed a Smallville episode, this podcast is pure genX nostalgia

[@alw5101]

Seriously! Hahahahaha it was my Alarm clock ⏰ forever.... Somebody saveeee Meeeeee.......✨🤍

[@TalkVillePodcast]

hope you never miss one of these :)

[@chiantiprice92]

Tom’s humility is refreshing

[@chiantiprice92]

Tom’s laugh is infectious and love Ryan’s one liners 😂

[@zhozho800]

@17:48 what Tom says about Kristin is so sweet. It probably started when she was a teenager and she quickly learned how to reject them with kindness.

[@jasonbrophy7921]

This is so awesome thanks dudes all seasons please bring Kristin in too For a spot or two I’ve always found your connection with her in interviews genuine and like old friends

[@TalkVillePodcast]

That's the plan!

[@Kopacko]

I am absolutely loving this. Smallville is one of my all-time favorite shows ever. I binge watched the first few seasons with my wife (while she was pregnant) to get catch her up. My oldest son and I are planning to sit down and binge watch the series as well.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

love seeing stuff like this. thanks Jason

[@Kopacko]

@@TalkVillePodcast Michael, you are very welcome sir. We need to get Tom's setup at his house fixed though....his mic sounds funky.

[@arstropica]

That voicemail reminded me that Rosie's superpower is his voice.

[@gatensgirl6932]

26:11 - love how Ryan just jumps in with "yes" before hearing the second half of the would you rather question XD

[@DJDREXTV]

Thank you guys.... Yesterday I was laid off after 3 years and a father of 2. This hit me hard, but watching this podcast and having memories watching Smallville helped me get thru my horrible day. Thank you helping my spirits.

[@TMSokoya]

I'm wishing you all the best with finding a new job. 🙏

[@DJDREXTV]

@@TMSokoya thank you fam

[@tryinmyhardest]

Yessss I’m so excited for this, I grew up obsessed with the show. Lex Luther was my gay awakening

[@TalkVillePodcast]

hope you enjoyed

[@alw5101]

SOMEBODY SAVEEEE MEEEE Was our alarm clock ⏰ for YEARS‼️ And now Thanks to Talkville we have it back AGAIN ‼️ I Love You Guys 😘🥰✨🤍

[@TalkVillePodcast]

what a wake up

[@NewLeaf-bq1rd]

"I wonder how he would feel if he got crabs"?! 😂😂😂😂😂 Bruh😂😂😂

[@lolaoroni7087]

Tom calling the hotline with his questions 😂😂😂

[@kayron3952]

I want Tom to know that some of my favorite acting from Tom happens in this episode. The emotion on his eyes and face when he sees Whitney taking Lana to the car, the pain in his eyes my heart broke for him, i have felt that myself in life. Congrats Tom!!!

[@gatensgirl6932]

4:30 major props to Rosey for crediting everyone involved in the episode and giving a synopsis before you got started! I rewatched it before the podcast, but that's still so helpful, and I'm sure the creators, director, guest stars, etc., would be so happy to hear you reference them!

[@Dnq013]

I love how deep you guys went into the aspect of Tom actually giving 10 years of his life and just how you guys took the time to reflect on this very important aspect. That's why i Love this podcast. It goes way behind "behind the scenes". This is raw and real. Love it. Thank you Michael & Tom. Greetings from ARUBA

[@rjladd2787]

I want to make a couple comments before I watch this episode. I forgot just how awesome the cinematography is in Smallville. This show was shot very beautifully!

[@NickelPickel369]

Watch the episode last night. I loved the loft being referred to as his "Fortress of Solitude" goes along with Lana's "are you man or superman" from Episode 1

[@TCTUnlimited]

I also wonder if it was a callback to The Lois & Clark Series because Clark had a tree house named that in the show. Its on HBO Max if you want to see it

[@karenp1687]

@@TCTUnlimited The Fortress of Solitude started with the comics.

[@DiscoverMVP]

I recently caught a few minutes of one of my favorite early-season Smallville episodes, the one where Lex is split into Evil Lex and Good Lex, and Evil Lex utters the line, "You were right all along, Mr. Kent. I am the villain of the story."

[@williamnh]

Don’t forget Clark saved Lex in the first episode, and Greg came back for Homecoming

[@brandonjones2249]

Just started watching these podcasts...so glad i discovered this. I watched smallville live when they aired on tv from start to finish. Loved the show so much. My wife who has never watched smallville, was watching Superman and Lois on the CW and i would say this reminds me of smallville and she said id like to watch it as much as you reference it. So i saw it was on sale on VUDU and i bought all 10 seasons and we binge watched it. She loved the show and i remember why i loved it so much! Thank you for doing this. I will be binge watching these as well!

[@bluesuperman1]

50:06 I love how Tom instantly knows it's Michael 😂😂😂

[@ryanhackett5832]

This is great! I love seeing you guys together again talking about Smallville. It's been one of my favorite shows for a long time! I watched it when it first aired on TV, and have watched through the DVDs a few time. Would love to see Kristin, Sam, John Glover, or Annette on the show! Thanks guys. Keep it up!

[@TalkVillePodcast]

thanks Ryan

[@KrisTomLuver]

Smallville always had the best shots. The music, the lightening, everything was so well thought out. Very few shows can hold up 20 + years later. Maybe I'm bias, but I still think everything looks great. No superhero show has come close to what you guys made!

[@SCOLTON97Archive]

So happy this podcast is a thing, this show meant so much to me as a teen and still does. Thank you!

[@TalkVillePodcast]

thank you for returning :)

[@gatensgirl6932]

32:50 - THANK YOU, Rosey, for defending Tom on that point! I cannot imagine how consuming the show was for both of you, but especially him as the main star. And in the first podcast episode you mentioned the physical suffering you had to go through as well. I was so sad that I never saw him go on to do more acting, but after that, I'm sure I would've wanted out, too!

[@VioletEmerald]

He took a long break but seems to be enjoying acting more in recent years in small projects. He was a recurring guest star on Lucifer and in some movies etc.

[@dcw3483]

I'm rewatching the series. Smallville has a great soundtrack. They have a ton of hits from that era. A lot of other shows would use random songs that not many people knew

[@KrazyKobold]

I think you guys need to get Hulu to sponsor your podcast as it's the major streamer that currently has all the seasons of Smallville. Loving what you're doing here.

[@thuo1000]

Just finished re-watching Smallville (all 10 seasons today). It took me like 2 months to complete all 10 seasons. Talk about a trip down memory lane. My first time watching smallville was from age 13 to 21. 11 years later, I decided to re-watch it. Rewatching it gives me a whole new perspective and appreciation of the show. Smallville really set the standard. I enjoyed watching every episode. I can't say the same about any other superhero show that came after smallville. Personally, I enjoyed Smallville the most from season 4 onwards when Erica Durance (Lois Lane) came to the show. Erica/Lois was refreshing and she added humor to the show. Also the relationship between Lois and Clark has to be one of the best character developments I have seen on TV to date.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

perfect time to start this pod then :)

[@PozoBlue]

Omg, I feel the exact opposite.🤣 Never hated a Lois Lane before the smallville version. Couldn't stand this Lois or her relationship with clark. To the point I stopped watching the last seasons once Lex, Lana and pete left and she became a main character. Found her THAT irritating.

[@diegoortiz5139]

I hope I'm not the only one, but I'm so glad that Ryan is getting to participate more in the podcast. I'm happy to see he's doing good (I've been a Warp Zone fan for years now)

[@TalkVillePodcast]

love that :)

[@ryandeffley7652]

Yep I enjoy this aspect of it too. He cracks me up because he'll have the occasional zinger or moment of insight out of nowhere. Being a "fly on the wall" fits the Metamorphosis theme. LOL **His Papa Roach catch was awesome and it always cracked me up they put a song from the group in a bug episode. 😁

[@airwreck213]

@@ryandeffley7652 Yeah bug boy even had the Papa Roach poster in his room haha

[@AmeeraG242]

Lex was such a good guy in the beginning, i loved clark and his relationship. It made me so sad when it changed. The music in every episode is so perfect

[@LeoTheHero]

This episode’s ending is still one of my favorite’s from season 1 and the entire series. I went back and watched it and it’s is still a work of art. Clark returning Lana’s neckless to “Wherever You Will Go” by The Calling, leaving the neckless on the door handle and Clark walking down the path after with the shot tilting up to the night sky after Lana finds her neckless is peak. Great moments like that are what made the show great and are why Smallville is the only show I own on DVD.

[@killabstorm9361]

It kinda feels like an episode of smallville. Something to look forward each week. I'm excited to see where this podcast goes. Stay nerdy my friends

[@Joshuadmathews]

I think Clark always could fly, because he was Kryptonian, but due to limitations he conscientiously put on himself, he stayed "grounded"; however, subconsciously when he was in the unconscious state of sleep, those limitations were suppressed and therefore he was able to float. I think what is interesting for the first four seasons, basically, Clark doesn't want these powers, he just wants to be normal. This is interesting take of Superman, because Wellings presents a Superman that wants to be "normal". He wants to marry Lana, run the farm, and just be a normal person like his Dad. These are his "dreams", not having this greater destiny imposed upon him by a "father" he never knew, and who very well could have abandoned him. However in contrast, in Season 4's opener, where he is just "Kal-El" and his Clark persona of his psyche is suppressed, he is able to fly and use all of his abilities. His leaping ability is also linked to this psychological limitation. The more he embraces his role as a hero, and suppresses his own wants, the better he gets at leaping. I believe this is why the first time we see him perform a super leap was when he went to Metropolis and jumped off the Daily Planet, because in part he was psychologically embracing this idea of needing to let go of Smallville and help the "world". Season 6 displayed one of his best leap/flies to date because being on Red K, and not repressing his feelings/attractions for Lois, allowed him to leap/fly with her across almost all of Metropolis. Then in season 8, when he becomes the Blur, we see Clark mastering the ability to jump vertically/leap buildings in a single bound. The specific scene was when Doomsday was attacking the night club. As stated throughout the show, Doomsday's presence and him embracing his role as the world's destroyer, would externally force Clark to embrace his roll as the world's savior, because he wouldn't be able to sit idely by (hence him vigorously that season chasing down after this "serial killer"). In season 9 when Jor-EL was walking him through flying simulations off the statue of liberty, Clark is not able to focus because he thinking about Lois and in his mind at that moment /season he put the limitation on himself I am either going to have a future with Lois as Clark Kent OR I am going to be this Savior called the Blur, in his head/heart at the time, he didn't see where the two would co-exist. But as is shown throughout, its actually romantically falling in love with Lois and trusting her and the confidence that she brings him in him accepting to himself, that the more he is around Lois, his Kryptonian powers strengthen. Her direct quote in season 10 is this, "Don't listen to it, Clark. Just trust yourself. You did it for me your secret. You trusted yourself, and you were right. The only way to see the truth is to close your eyes and ears and take a leap of faith. I believe in you." Her belief in him bolsters his confidence in himself, and he is able to fly with her (as paralleled in season 6). In the background the Daily Planet is focused upon because in key major scenes where Clark in this show has demonstrated flight, the Daily Planet has been present, which in this show is a image/theme that is representative of Clark's "future" where he has embraced his role on earth as a Hero. Before that shot ends, we see Clark look into Lois's eyes, it is acknowledgment that season 9's Clark didn't realize, that he can have BOTH, be the hero and have a life with Lois at his side. After this realization hits him, Clark is then seen, much like the final shot in Pattinson's, "Batman", with Clark "looking up" into the sky's of Metropolis. Then in the season finale, when fighting Darksied, it is Jor-El who says to him, "You have always had the power within you. Seize your destiny".

[@VioletEmerald]

Interesting theories. :)

[@albertocorpa]

The first time we saw the opening. What a great moment every time this theme sounds. l love seeing Kristin smiling. She is absolutely adorable

[@gatensgirl6932]

13:55 - OMFG the self-deprecating honesty and humour Rosey has is incredible. I love seeing celebrities be so open about themselves. What a gift.

[@Axel12968]

Something I wanted to point out is Tom's question at the end of the podcast, my siblings and I are big Smallville fans and he recalled later in the show the other times that Clark floated/flew; later on in the show when Jensen Ackle's character comes in (SE4); Clark becomes possessed by his Kryptonian persona and flies in the show. I think it's the first episode. Anyway, when Ma Kent gets Clark back, Pa Kent asks later in that episode, concerned, "Your mother tells me you can fly?" and Clark responds with "Kal-El can fly, Clark Kent is still earthbound". I think they get a little relieved at that but I believe Pa Kent mentions that its an ability he can probably do too with practice like his other abilities, but Clark states it's harder for some reason. I think in the show he mentions that he actually has a fear of heights. So, Clark had psychological barriers that prevented him from flying on his own. I hope this helps Tom out.

Just love the podcast! Guys, you do a great job! One reminder, the bug boy didn't really die, we saw his comeback in the season finale, episode „Homecoming”. So, minus one in the died list.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

true

[@rosiealiceb]

But you can add one back in for bug boy's poor old mum 😂

[@TheGeekAuthority]

One of the better commentaries I've heard so far on a podcast rewatch show. I was worried that Tom would be more shy about the behind the scenes stories but it turns out his detailed expositions, insights and description of production behind the scenes and acting were completely exciting and just fun to hear. Thank you Tom! You're quite the person and seem very comfortable with Michael in your insights. Michael you just hit it out of the park with this podcast too! Thank you to you and Ryan! Bravo gentlemen!

[@gavriecox2229]

Clark floats again when he is dancing with Lois after the reunion dance.

[@VioletEmerald]

Aw he floats when feeling the romantic butterflies maybe

[@superman-rp5fu]

The thing that makes Superman "Super" is his character! Unwavering character! He was created to give hope to Americans during the war. To be an example of what an American is suppose to look like in the face of danger, hardship, etc.! All through Smallville, the times I feel most proud of Clark is when he stands up against his friends family to do the right thing...... which inspires them to do the right thing! *I will post this part only to leave something "short and sweet" as they say and the more IN ACTUAL REALITY part, I will put in a different comment (more book but whatever)* :)

[@EmilyKresl]

I'm only on my second episode of Talkville and I already feel like I'm hanging out with my old school friends. Thank you guys for doing this!

[@JDSharar13]

We all want this pod to be huge!! I really think you gotta get Tom some proper sound mixing if you’re going to be doing it from different locations a lot of the time. It’s funny that he has equipment but it still sounds like a zoom call 😅 love you guys and will be here for every episode!!

[@TalkVillePodcast]

yup had an issue in this one, fixing moving forward

[@JDSharar13]

@@TalkVillePodcast you guys are the best!! It’s only so clear because of Roseys silky smooth radio voice! Seriously you need to do books on tape or calming videos with those pipes!

[@gatensgirl6932]

@@JDSharar13 Rosey has an amazing voice for reading everything, I agree!!

[@michaelroth6975]

@@TalkVillePodcast did tom not press record?

[@karenp1687]

@@JDSharar13 Or have Michael read books with Lex's voice! I would LOVE that. He did so much exposition about history on Smallville, it would be like an extention of that!

[@ejhumphrey5383]

Wherever you will go by The Calling just reminded me that Smallville shaped the playlist of my life.

[@Lordbloodwolf7]

I know I'm late to this party, but, I gotta say that I'm loving this podcast! The way Michael and Tom are so hilariously childish with each out just makes me laugh. Thank you guys for the opportunity to join alongside y'all in this rewatching series, you're all awesome! 😃

[@RRRackCity]

Talking about the 10 years of your life thing: I'm turning 31 soon. To even think about giving up ages 25 to 35 sounds insane to me. I appreciate Tom giving us those years and Michael giving us the 7 he did. It's a lot to ask of someone, regardless of compensation. The older I get the more I realize just how valuable time is

[@shakeemwinn3647]

It's a shame you guys never touched on the ending of the episode. It's one of the most romantic endings in television or Cinema history in my opinion. Instead of outing out Whitney and returning the necklace to Lana in order to win her heart; Clark takes the road less travelled. He takes the road of the hero and returns her property anonymously. This seemingly, simple act of selflessness does more to put Clark on the path of becoming Superman then battling the main freak of the week. This is why Metamorphosis is one of my favorite episodes in the entire run of the series. It shows the difference between being a hero and being the average Joe. The hero will make the choice that no one else can or will.

[@ninjanibba4259]

Wherever You Will Go is on my playlist cuz of this episode, I think of the ending scene everytime I listen to it

[@alw5101]

I agree with the both of you Shakeem and Ninja 👍✨🤍

[@misoboskovic]

Great comment!🙂i totally agree! It really showed raw " stripped of powers" Clark. He can do whatever he wants, and still choose to be selfless. He actually had every right to be upset with Whitney, and he decided to step aside and let Whitney to shine. That' s what i like, and i'm sure many fans like about Clark. That's so rare in real life ( almost non existent) and actually reminds us how flawed we are, sadly.

[@shakeemwinn3647]

@@misoboskovic Indeed

[@blossomrockranch5037]

Yes!!!!!

[@webeonceing4793]

I love that they talked about the shot at the beginning going up to the sky then down again, I remember watching the show for the first time on a VHS tape and the shot was so seamless like watching a movie length episode, so much nostalgia

[@Homelander___]

I was 10 when Smallville came out and I feel like I grew up with you guys as my friends. I love to see that you guys are so genuine and cool on and off screen. Love ya guys.

[@calhounsusan]

I once counted how many times Clark super speed away while the other characters' back was turned. 😆 I forget how many times I counted.

[@JACK27909]

I can't say enough of Tom and Michael. I spent a lot of time rewatching Smallville when I was younger. I can't believe it has been 20 years. The 2000's had some really great shows, sports, films, and music. And if I am being on honest I would have never heard of Jensen Ackles and Supernatural if it wasn't for watching Smallville because that was the only WB show I watched at the time.

[@thehermitman822]

It's so great hearing that the Smallville cast got along so well. It's really fitting for a show about a young Superman.

[@smallvillefan72]

Doing a great job Michael. Thank you guys for doing this. I really means a lot to us fans.

[@TalkVillePodcast]

means a lot that you're returning. thanks bud

[@Diegesis]

Never watched an episode of Smallville. Not a diss, just not my type of show. But I am loving this podcast and shall watch every episode. You two are camera gold together. Mike you especially have one of the best interview shows of all time. it's like an actor on actors situation. You being able to bring the actor perspective to the interviews is just killer. Thanks guys. Love y'all.

[@karenp1687]

You are in for quite a treat. I know you will enjoy the whole 10 years worth you missed!

[@TMSokoya]

Are you interested in watching it now?

[@ThemagnificentMichael]

50:05 😂😂😂😂 You’re too much ! I’m in tears

[@Dennyh025]

I always thought they were zits too, the fact they could be bug bites never entered my mind at all, but it makes total sense!!

[@Lily-ul4dj]

Y’all need to have Kristen on the show it would be amazing

[@relaxntakecare3438]

They're having her back for the pool episode 🤞

[@Lily-ul4dj]

@@relaxntakecare3438 really?

[@relaxntakecare3438]

@@Lily-ul4dj no clue lol sorry

[@madpuppet666]

she was on michael's podcast, so I'm sure they'll get her on this also.

[@Steger13]

@@relaxntakecare3438 hahaha sound good to me..

[@dionsekone]

YES! I watched the first Talkville episode 5 or 6 times. So excited for this.