The Truth About THE MOORS Once And For All

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@metatronyt
@metatronyt Ай бұрын
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@ektran4205
@ektran4205 Ай бұрын
brown or tan
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer Ай бұрын
Hiii! I'm totally geeking out, I love this topic (anything to do with the cultures of North Africa and how that ties in with Spanish and other W. European settlements in these areas)!! 🤓So what ya got? Can't wait to find out! 😊
@DS-rv2fc
@DS-rv2fc Ай бұрын
Blacks in the Islamic World were only slaves
@fetusbuddha3908
@fetusbuddha3908 Ай бұрын
Keep saying truths-you gonna turn into an AFROCENTRIC
@ektran4205
@ektran4205 Ай бұрын
@@FireflowerDancer tropical interior africans
@awesomehpt8938
@awesomehpt8938 Ай бұрын
You missed an opportunity with that video title. It could have been “the truth about the Moors, Moor or less”
@evilempryss
@evilempryss Ай бұрын
There could be a follow-up video, "More about Moors"
@devadasn
@devadasn Ай бұрын
@@evilempryssthird video, “after this, no more about the moors”
@Timbo6669
@Timbo6669 Ай бұрын
“May I have some Moor pls sir?”
@GeeAmo907
@GeeAmo907 Ай бұрын
Moors the pity
@ericharmon7163
@ericharmon7163 Ай бұрын
Or the Moops, to quote George Costanza, 😆
@nourerrahmanebrahmia4035
@nourerrahmanebrahmia4035 Ай бұрын
As an Algerian, i was really pissed off when they showcased Numidians and Roman Emperor Macrinus as a Black person. we are North African Berbers, our cousins are the Egyptians and we're not Black people. with all respect to our African brothers.
@metatronyt
@metatronyt Ай бұрын
I appreciate your respectful way of defending your history.
@countofdownable
@countofdownable Ай бұрын
They even do the same in Britain now. Depicting historical White people as sub-Saharan African. There were virtually no Black people in Britain until after WWII.
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer Ай бұрын
Algeria for Algerians! ❤
@patosasesinos6654
@patosasesinos6654 Ай бұрын
Spanish here. Same thing happens when they try to portray us as black/subsaharians when one of the Major points of our fundation as a is the contraposition of Christianity and Islam through the Reconquista. I think it's due to the basic understanding of how ethnicity works by the avereage Joe in the US
@NYCfrankie
@NYCfrankie Ай бұрын
And its always african americans afro caribbeans and some small amount of west or central africans living in the UK or France that claim to be the original moors ancient egyptians or the "real jews" and every other race under the sun but whats scary is that alot of historians archeologists etc in academia won't come out and just debunk their nonsense because their scared of being called racist so now we have here in America certain history teaches in high schools across America teaching this afrocentric nonsense
@smnomad9276
@smnomad9276 Ай бұрын
This is not the first time you have provided completely inaccurate information. The Moors are strictly Moroccans 🇲🇦, not "North Africans," which includes many other countries that are not historically related to the Moors at all. - Tariq Ibn Ziyad, who led the invasion of Iberia, was the ruler of Tangier in Morocco 🇲🇦. - The capital of the first Moroccan dynasty, the Idrissid dynasty (791 AD), that completed the conquest of Iberia was Fez, in Morocco 🇲🇦. - The capital of the Almoravid Empire (1050 AD), which also controlled and achieved the political unification of Morocco and Iberia, was Marrakech, in Morocco 🇲🇦. - The capital of the Almohad Empire (1147 AD), which came after it and also ruled over Iberia, was Marrakech, in Morocco 🇲🇦. Not clearly stating that the Moors are from Morocco is like not clearly stating that the Ottomans are from Turkey 🇹🇷, but rather "Eastern Europe and the Middle East." Your information often lacks accuracy and integrity.
@عبدالرحمنعبدالله-ز4م
@عبدالرحمنعبدالله-ز4م Ай бұрын
Moroccan nationalist.
@jandisueiras4790
@jandisueiras4790 Ай бұрын
And the name of Mauritania its a mistake? Moors are people of north West África for us. And all of them the same... well, better dont say Whats I think about all of them 🤦
@عبدالرحمنعبدالله-ز4م
@عبدالرحمنعبدالله-ز4م Ай бұрын
@@jandisueiras4790 "for us" "what I think" Why assume that any of that matters?
@smnomad9276
@smnomad9276 Ай бұрын
@@jandisueiras4790 Mauritania was literally a Moroccan region called Chenguit before the 1912 french protectorate of Morocco, the french took that territory from Morocco that's why it is a large territory but only has 4 millions inhabitants. It is historically Moroccan and to this day Moroccans call it as South Morocco.
@Kc08246
@Kc08246 Ай бұрын
Moroccans is a modern term and has nothing to do with the moors. The black Africans came into Spain in 1019 to help build the Spanish kingdom until they were kicked out in 1492. Moroccans are not indigenous to that side of the world lol. They Arabs from Iraq that spread throughout North Africa. Just like all the Arabs in North Africa, all invaders.
@massinissaziriamazigh8122
@massinissaziriamazigh8122 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the video ، Your way of explaining is really great , I am a Berber from Algeria, and I see our history falsified by Hollywood and Netflix every day, and this is annoying.
@kennywilliams6991
@kennywilliams6991 2 күн бұрын
So the word moor mean white???
@Aufsammelkabbler
@Aufsammelkabbler 2 күн бұрын
@@kennywilliams6991 Facepalm… The video literally stated that the moors where a diverse group with different ethnicities…
@IoanCenturion
@IoanCenturion Ай бұрын
No Metatron, you don't understand. All of Africa, the second-largest continent in the world with the most genetic diversity, is inhabited by people who look exactly the same, and are all directly related. If I'm an American who's half-Nigerian and half Scotch-Irish, I can claim all accomplishments of anyone who ever lived in Africa as being from 'my people'. At least that's what the average Facebook post has taught me. (Obviously I'm being sarcastic, but apparently it wasn't obvious enough for a couple people lol)
@margareta9081
@margareta9081 Ай бұрын
👏 Exactly! Stupid logic... Let me guest they're Pan Africanist
@generalbelisarius8103
@generalbelisarius8103 Ай бұрын
Invicta and some youtubers depicted the moors, berbers, and numidians as black sub-saharan african, even though they're mostly north african with common mediterranean skin. I didn't know this, i unsubscribed from those channels after reading some of the comments made by fellow north-africans.
@margareta9081
@margareta9081 Ай бұрын
@@generalbelisarius8103 the Moors were not black people it's just some black people are obsessed with Arabs and are self loathing.
@mikebryant614
@mikebryant614 Ай бұрын
It is worth noting that this idea of "Black Moors" and more broadly the scenarios you mention, is that this is almost uniquely and entirely an AMERICAN Blacks phenomenon., most Blacks in other areas know better than this , you don't see actual African Natives making these absurd claims , it is almost always a U.S. based person who most likely has never set foot on the African continent - But yet is somehow an "Expert" on it's history and reality.
@AyaGumede
@AyaGumede Ай бұрын
So, as a South African, I can claim my people fought Rome, built the pyramids, and sailed the Mediterranean?
@pilouuuu
@pilouuuu Ай бұрын
The moor I watch this channel, the moor I appreciate the focus on true historical facts.
@brunobastos5533
@brunobastos5533 Ай бұрын
Right just the fact he say Spain to referre to all Iberia and that pisses me as Portuguese
@BullfrogActual
@BullfrogActual Ай бұрын
Good grief
@brunobastos5533
@brunobastos5533 Ай бұрын
@@BullfrogActual god grief what
@jimbusmaximus4624
@jimbusmaximus4624 Ай бұрын
He's also uploading moor than he used to. The moor I watch the moor I love the channel ✌🏼
@pilouuuu
@pilouuuu Ай бұрын
@@brunobastos5533 bom grifinho
@ducthman4737
@ducthman4737 Ай бұрын
Indeed here in Spain when we talk about the Moors we talk about the Muslims who occupied Spain. Colour of skin is of no importance.
@lactusgalacto1174
@lactusgalacto1174 Ай бұрын
They were black and their are books written about their appearance of books from 1540 hundreds about the moors.😁
@emilegriffith1473
@emilegriffith1473 Ай бұрын
there were black ones white ones and semitic ones, who probably made up the large majority
@MarokoJin
@MarokoJin Ай бұрын
@@lactusgalacto1174 Except that the closest territory from which those invasions happened are in Morocco. The northern part used to be called "Mauritania" or "Mauritania Tingis", those are the people who were known to the Spaniards. Later, Senhaja were a federal tribal system from the southern pat of Morocco (they speak they own dialect, called until now tachelhit) and yes, among them there are blacks, either free or slaves, it depends.
@lactusgalacto1174
@lactusgalacto1174 Ай бұрын
@@MarokoJin Like I said the moors were black and their are books describing them as such and it does not mention any other people that were not black.
@MarokoJin
@MarokoJin Ай бұрын
@@lactusgalacto1174 Ok, I'll forget my own tribes, my own ancestry and I'll follow someone's modern interpretation of "black" because it matches the African-American delusions.
@dzpower9156
@dzpower9156 Ай бұрын
As an Algerian, I felt deeply indignant at the portrayal of historical Numidian figures, such as King Massinissa, as well as the Roman Emperor Marcus Opellius, depicted as Black individuals. We, the Berbers of North Africa, have a distinct cultural and ethnic identity rooted in a millennia-old history. It is crucial to respect and preserve the diversity of cultural and historical heritages without distorting the realities of our identities. That being said, I express these sentiments with the utmost respect for our Sub-Saharan African brothers, with whom we share a rich and diverse continental mosaic.
@-_YouMayFind_-
@-_YouMayFind_- Ай бұрын
Also to mention slavery over quite some time. 9 million of them between 1500 and 1800
@gamalnassertv
@gamalnassertv Ай бұрын
What is your tribe?
@dzpower9156
@dzpower9156 Ай бұрын
@@gamalnassertv kutama
@MR-MR-ud5oo
@MR-MR-ud5oo Ай бұрын
Do you believe ANCIENT Egyptians were "bl/\q"??
@bamboosho0t
@bamboosho0t Ай бұрын
And yet, somehow, nobody knows "Sub-Saharan Africans" history... yet everyone seemed to turn them into slaves. You have no earthly clue what that does to its ancestors, who have to be told by OTHERS that your civilization was so unremarkable that we have no information on it. I do not approve of appropriating other cultures as a retaliatory measure. But you have to understand where that comes from. It's a desperation to belong to something of merit in history when everyone is 🤫 about your history.
@firas47482
@firas47482 Ай бұрын
Bro I'm Algerian and long time fan of yours❤ first i wanna thank you for the video it's like a gift for me for being dedicated to your channel, however i wanna just add two points to your essay: ¹- it's okey to call black people blue people, over here in much of north Africa we call any person with abvious dark skin complex - regardless of race- ZRAG which means blue and it's not derogatory term it's the same as we call everyone one with fair skin ROJO which mean red. ²- Actually much of north African are genetically of Amazigh (berber) origin, it's true since the mideaval era we started using Arabic as formal language (like much of the peoples with native afro asiatic tongue from middle east to the horn of africa into north africa) and started to arabized linguisticaly to much or less degree but we're not arabs, it's like saying that russian are ethnic french just for the reason that the russian cort used frensh as official language between 1700-1800. ...Again i really thank you for putting some light on our history i really appreciate it
@abdibarri9012
@abdibarri9012 8 күн бұрын
THIS GUY IS STUPID THE VERY WORD MOOR MEAN BLACK IS ROMAN WORD IS GOOGLE MOOR FISH IS REAL BLACK FISH SO MOOR HUMAN WOULD BE WHITE MANY RACIST LOW IQ 😢 THEY SHOW THEIR HATE
@devadasn
@devadasn Ай бұрын
It’s moops! - George Costanza
@Chrisdrumz
@Chrisdrumz Ай бұрын
Damnit dude.......I was gonna post that!!!😁
@quentincollins1825
@quentincollins1825 Ай бұрын
Beat me to it 😂
@scottdelo7798
@scottdelo7798 Ай бұрын
I was thinking that the whole time I watched this video 😂
@LamiNalchor
@LamiNalchor Ай бұрын
wonderful
@soulknife20
@soulknife20 Ай бұрын
DAMMIT!
@BoredSquirell
@BoredSquirell Ай бұрын
Wait, you want to say that anything in this video is controversial? This is like North African history 101
@Xairos84
@Xairos84 Ай бұрын
Which is controversy in the modern age haha 😂
@tgzny
@tgzny Ай бұрын
@@Xairos84 for certain groups in the english speaking countries lol
@prestonjennings6277
@prestonjennings6277 Ай бұрын
@@tgznyis this a reference to Oxford banning Anglo-Saxon?
@sancocho1718
@sancocho1718 Ай бұрын
​@@prestonjennings6277Come again? They banned what?
@patosasesinos6654
@patosasesinos6654 Ай бұрын
​@@sancocho1718they literally banned the use of Anglo-Saxon in the educated circle at Oxford I belive
@schlotch
@schlotch Ай бұрын
A nice introduction to the ethnicities of the Moors around the time of the Iberian conquest and reconquista. I agreed that it’s becoming increasingly relevant to move away from using ‘sub-Saharan’ to reference skin colour. There are plenty of southern Africans with skin as light as a Moroccan or Tunisian, such as the people of Botswana and some in South Africa. Turns out Africans are pretty diverse!
@Hatim.13
@Hatim.13 Ай бұрын
I am Moroccan, my genetic make up is 93% North African Berber/Amazigh (Native North African, 00 arab/bedouin or subsaharan/black) and 7% Iberian (Portuguese and Spanish), I live in the US and most people think I am Latino or sicilian Italian. Light olive skin, dark hair, dark eyes...Moroccans come in all complexions and colors...But the African Americans attempts to appropriate the whole Moorish culture, ethnicity and history is absolutely insane, and is NOT a point of discussion among Africans in Africa, but only African Americans...
@ibrahimihsan2090
@ibrahimihsan2090 Ай бұрын
I think the problem is that some Black activists would associate "Moor/Moorish" with Blackness or the Non-Christian faith of Islam sometime before the American civil rights movement. This was perhaps due to its racist use by some whites as a synonym for Black or Muslim and some Black activists wanted to develop ethnonational ideas which argued that Islam was the native ethnic faith of Black Americans before their arrival to America but yeah, some of those guys make an entire lore out of those linguistic corruptions. Alhamdullilah for El-Hajj Malik al-Shabazz who left similarly ignorant and heretical ideas after visiting Saudi Arabia at least a year before his death which influenced other Black heretics to learn proper Islam instead of whatever mythology they made in America in the early 1900s. Too bad a small, ignorant but loud minority of them still stick to such ideas.
@gillsejusbates6938
@gillsejusbates6938 Ай бұрын
@@ibrahimihsan2090 i think the problem is muslims in europe, get out!
@Benito-lr8mz
@Benito-lr8mz Ай бұрын
7% Spanish lol think one of Moorish expelled?
@drowssapma
@drowssapma Ай бұрын
I am Portuguese but I was told my ancestors were a part of the Moors. That is literally all I know about it as this was told to my mother by her grandmother; all whom have passed away decades ago.
@PFNewsScienceResearch
@PFNewsScienceResearch Ай бұрын
Morroco is a city turned kingdom and its original inhabitants are Asiatic.
@Dejf4299
@Dejf4299 Ай бұрын
I've noticed you've been uploading way more often than you used to. I hope you are not overworking yourself, the older upload schedule was completely fine. Don't forget to take a break! Thanks for the hardwork and keep defending the truth!
@Imugi007
@Imugi007 Ай бұрын
He's purposely uploading a video a day for a little while. He posted about it on his community page.
@RevusX
@RevusX Ай бұрын
He's testing out a daily upload schedule.
@ea5266
@ea5266 Ай бұрын
It should be okay, fellow noble one, Metatron is always two. Steps. Ahead 😅
@damedash3226
@damedash3226 Ай бұрын
@@Dejf4299 when is he going to release his video supporting his claim that ancient Egyptians weren’t predominantly Black? He sort of backed away from that whole topic 😂😂.
@Sleepless4Life
@Sleepless4Life Ай бұрын
He's doin' it on purpose. For more algo involvement. Algorithm was messing with engagement. So he decided to upload daily to see if engagement improved. It did. So he announced on X that he would upload daily for the foreseeable future.
@chrisapperley2616
@chrisapperley2616 Ай бұрын
It’s because they think Africa is a country
@AfricanPrinse
@AfricanPrinse Ай бұрын
true
@uniformityofnature1488
@uniformityofnature1488 Ай бұрын
European education system
@ranojutro426
@ranojutro426 Ай бұрын
​@@uniformityofnature1488 Not really, we studied in Europe that Africa is continent
@InIt2winIt247
@InIt2winIt247 Ай бұрын
Who are they?
@televinv8062
@televinv8062 Ай бұрын
It's laughable and true for many. Some think of it as a country.
@fhirvhdyg5gjyefhitzaphgbiu748
@fhirvhdyg5gjyefhitzaphgbiu748 Ай бұрын
Fun fact : in Morocco we also call a black person "blue".
@Bbderbala
@Bbderbala Ай бұрын
In Algeria blue or zrag in Arabic means rather a person of brown complexion not black.
@jrjoseph9213
@jrjoseph9213 Ай бұрын
Fun fact...all afro-descend people(Africa or west indies) call really darkskin black folks ''blue'',
@LemonThyme1933
@LemonThyme1933 Ай бұрын
In the US, I've heard of people with alabaster skin being called blue.
@jrjoseph9213
@jrjoseph9213 Ай бұрын
@@Bbderbala "Brown complexion" not "black"....can't you see through the BS?? What is the skin color of most so called "Black" person?? In the same way what is the skin color of a so called "White" peraon
@1SUPR3M3
@1SUPR3M3 Ай бұрын
Correct, hence Black People were once referred to as Indians, as that term comes from the colour Indigo. I think people dont realise how brand new the light complexion is. It Could be as brand new as the 1800s after the Eugenics programs.
@bobbobbington6245
@bobbobbington6245 Ай бұрын
Most of my knowledge on the Moors comes from Total War: Medieval 2.
@hernanreipp3321
@hernanreipp3321 Ай бұрын
I started to know about for them with El Cid's campaign of AoE2 the Conquerors. Speaking of Medieval 2 I love them so bad, Because they will never get broke and have great powerful units.
@jimbusmaximus4624
@jimbusmaximus4624 Ай бұрын
Don't feel bad, most of mine comes from True Romance.
@jackyboi5824
@jackyboi5824 Ай бұрын
Aye faction with the most spearmen
@Amza12345
@Amza12345 Ай бұрын
@@hernanreipp3321 as a moroccan moorish guy im broke af bro
@Raz.C
@Raz.C Ай бұрын
Well... Games generally ARE more historically accurate than movies...
@hamsterforever7670
@hamsterforever7670 Ай бұрын
In Polish language a black person, an African is called "murzyn" which originated from "maur" or moors. It's present in our language since the early middle ages
@edstar83
@edstar83 Ай бұрын
But they weren't black. They were Caucasian majority depicted with light skin, hair and eyes by the Christian kingdoms of Hispania as seen in medieval art. Moors was just a general term used by the Christian Kingdoms for the Muslims of Al Andalus. Muslim Spain. And Ameizgh berber of North Africa. In Spanish the term for black people is Negro. It's also the word for the colour black.
@basiakn
@basiakn Ай бұрын
Well, technically moors indeed weren't black, but that's accurate etymology of "murzyn" which in today's Polish means "black person". The word originated in Bible translation in XIV century, as translation of "Maurus". It was used since to describe African people, probably along the way the meaning shrinked to be only "black person". Etymology and accuracy in language rarely go along 😂
@goldbluetears
@goldbluetears Ай бұрын
in german too. A Mohr means a black person.
@Santanna536
@Santanna536 Ай бұрын
​@@edstar83🤣 you wrote a bunch of nothing. You people love saying moor has nothing to do with my people meanwhile Pope Benedict 16th coat of arms will dispel the nonsense you're spewing. "Sub Saharan" is a made up phrase and a poor recent attempt to remove us from the history of North Africa, just search sub Saharan in Google's Ngram tool to see when that term came into existence. The "Moors Heads"(head of a MOOR) found across EUROPE clearly indicates a history you people try to supress with this anything but you guys approach 🤣. From "The Negro Laws of South Carolina" book detailing The Negro Act of 1740. "The term Negro is confined to the slave African (the ancient Berbers) and their descendants. It does not embrace the free inhabitants of Africa, such as the Egyptians, Moors or the Negro Asiatics, such as the Lascars." -- United States Negro Act of 1740 - Section 4
@uniformityofnature1488
@uniformityofnature1488 Ай бұрын
@@goldbluetears moors were black and they predated Islam in Europe, even in French we have a similar word for blacks as an insult it’s called Moricaud.
@O4C209
@O4C209 Ай бұрын
A big issue (particularly in USA) is people associate continents with a particular race. The second issue is that most are oblivious to how close everything is around the Mediterranean Sea. I highly doubt many Americans would believe it's possible to swim from Spain (Europe) to Morocco (Africa).
@edstar83
@edstar83 Ай бұрын
Cross the Pillars of Hercules at your own risk. Barbarian.
@unaihernandez330
@unaihernandez330 Ай бұрын
It's posdible but it's not a good idea
@goodaimshield1115
@goodaimshield1115 Ай бұрын
They probably hink it impossible because the think Spain is in Mexico
@Ace-sb4il
@Ace-sb4il Ай бұрын
I think you have that problem too, when black people aren't in the south of Africa during ancient history
@edstar83
@edstar83 Ай бұрын
@@Ace-sb4il So after Egypt fell the Arabs, black people went back to living as half naked hunter gathers stuck in the stone age?
@iamsheep
@iamsheep Ай бұрын
I’m starting to see “Ancient China was ruled by black Africans” posts on FB now 😂
@beetheking_7
@beetheking_7 Ай бұрын
@@iamsheep we were literally the first ppl to explore the world, we are literally the original human lol if you seriously can’t see the blackness in the Chinese and the connections between the two than your being naive and blind, it’s only denied bc of racism. Every non black group practices racism against blacks. Every country in the world in today’s time we’re invaded by white Europeans later down the line during colonial times and they all took on that racist European ideology. You can’t find a place on earth today where blacks are treated as equal to the lighter ppl. The darker you are the worst you are treated, this is just common knowledge.
@StaticbeyfrmSemoran
@StaticbeyfrmSemoran Ай бұрын
Look up the Naga tribe in Asia
@incorrba
@incorrba Ай бұрын
They must have gotten bored of it and didn't mingle with the non-black Africans.
@iamsheep
@iamsheep Ай бұрын
@@StaticbeyfrmSemoran obviously you didn’t.
@groundzero5708
@groundzero5708 Ай бұрын
Naga tribe still exist today .they are not black .they are asian​@@StaticbeyfrmSemoran
@greysson2933
@greysson2933 Ай бұрын
I think there's certainly some truth to the idea of Black Moors; the Almoravids came from Southern Morroco/Mauritania, which to this day has at least some people which are Black there, and of course trade routes and migration have always occurred, so it's not like there would've been no Black people or at least Black contacts in these regions isn't logical. With this in mind I see no problem with the idea that when the Almoravids came to Spain they would've brought at least some Black/mixed soldiers, civilians and even nobility. The issue is that a lot of the "the Moors were Black" people probably don't know that Spain had already been conquered for several centuries by that point by armies from far further north, and it wasn't long before the Almoravids were replaced by the Almohads who were from further north. So the idea that an all-Black army under all-Black leadership invaded Spain and maintained a continuous all-Black leadership over Spain just doesn't stack with reality. It's not a black-and-white situation (pun not intended), which is why you know that the Afrocentrists who harp on about it are wrong; they want history to fit with their wants and desires, rather than looking at it and taking it for what it is.
@mikebryant614
@mikebryant614 Ай бұрын
This is true, but if you give "certain groups" any ground, then they will claim it all. The reality is , the Moors only known writings are in Arabic ,the "original" Moors were nearly entirely Arabic in origin and there simply weren't enough "Black" Moors to make mention of up until the Moors began conquering their way across Africa, ultimately into Spain and converted many Blacks to Islam, which if they did and also learned to speak / write in Arabic they were allowed to join the Moorish Military ,and this is how and why the modern afrocentric myth of "Black Moors" came into being.,as in the Moors were all, or predominantly Black .They simply were not, the original Moors were all Islamists , not an "African" religion and wrote entirely in Arabic, not any "African" language(s) and were Arabic genetically .
@greysson2933
@greysson2933 Ай бұрын
@@mikebryant614 I think that denying it is ultimately more self-defeating than conceding that there were some Black Moors, though. By outright denying it not only are you essentially lying to yourself as well as them, but you also give credence to the idea that "they know the truth but they're hiding it from you" which just feeds into more conspiracy nonsense. Saying there were Black Moors from the south of Morroco and Mauritania is just intellectual honesty; even the Almohad leadership looks to have been Black, as the chief tribe seems to have been the MasMuda, and when you google "Masmuda people" now you find plenty of pictures of Black people. It's not a black or white issue, there's nuance and grey areas to it, and it doens't benefit anyone to ignore this.
@juancorzo5081
@juancorzo5081 Ай бұрын
I'm from Spain and studied spanish history. And some black slaves were chained to the tents so they could only fight and not flee. That is where the Navarra flag comes from (one of the three spanish kingdoms who expelled the moors) We call them moros here, usually for people from the magreb but all muslims in general. If have never seen a black moor. In fact it is surprising how many of them are light skinned and eyed. Never forget arabs were big on exclavism. They even started transatlantic slavy trade.
@divinechariot5542
@divinechariot5542 Ай бұрын
​@@mikebryant614The original Moors were literally Africans aka Berbers. "Moor" derives from Mauritania, a region in northwestern Africa and which is also the name of a country in that area as well. The Islamic Moors didn't change much beyond adopting a new language and religion, they were still firmly African. Yes, not all of them were black African but plenty were given the large area thet inhabited. Berber groups like Tuaregs have straight up black African members too
@calm123
@calm123 Ай бұрын
Moors wasn't a race or people, it just referred to African Muslims, it was an Islamic coalition from Brown and Black Muslim tribes
@veuzou
@veuzou Ай бұрын
I've heard "blue men" ("hommes bleus" ) used in French to refer to the Tuaregs because of their traditional blue clothes and the fact that the dye used to make them blue was supposed to rub off and make their skin blue. My grandad worked in Mali in the 20's/30's and he saw the women on markets chewing samples of blue fabric the rub it on their hand back to be sure the fabric dye will rub off and make the skin blue as it was supposed to do.
@Joshua-fz5zx
@Joshua-fz5zx Ай бұрын
I'm grateful to be able to learn from a teacher like you that isnt a thinly veiled "____ supremacist" of any variety. Its so hard to find a source without an agenda of some sort. I just dont have the time, skills or intelligence needed to research these things by myself. Lately, I've been trying to learn more about Roman and Greek history. A science fiction book series im reading is heavily influenced by Roman and Greek history/culture. These videos have ignited a love for learning ive never had before. Thanks!
@seustaceRotterdam
@seustaceRotterdam Ай бұрын
So much to unpack here, 4.8 K comments so good luck if you even see this! The Greek word you mentioned, isn’t it like Μαύρος (Mavros depends on gender) meaning black. Does this also connect to the Italian name “Mauro”? Finally Blámenn at least in Iceland “blaumen” is similar to what we say in Irish “Fear Gorm” blue man for a black man. Indeed Iceland and Ireland had a lot of contact during the Viking era.
@MKfanmomo
@MKfanmomo Ай бұрын
Greetings from Tunisia Metatron, Thank you for shedding light into this subject for your audience especially in the USA. Because i grew tired of explaining how North Africa is so mixed and diverse in my online encounters😫
@personofinterest8731
@personofinterest8731 Ай бұрын
What a scintillating history lesson, thank you so much from South Africa 🇿🇦 with love! 💜
@shellysands7342
@shellysands7342 Ай бұрын
I really love that you post everyday. I love learning new things about history that aren’t necessarily common knowledge amongst us lay people. The subjects you cover are always fascinating to me. Thank you for the work you put into each and every one of your videos. 😊
@nextmovementmu
@nextmovementmu 24 күн бұрын
How do you explain the countless depictions of the "Moorhead" in European coats of arms as being distinctly "black" Africans?
@Weezy-zy9qy
@Weezy-zy9qy 23 күн бұрын
Idk whether you’ve seen it but there’s a photo of an Arab from 1930s and he has a darker complexion than any modern day Arab. The reason is likely the lack of access to shade/proper housing for commoners, lack of Colonial European admixture in their genes etc..,. Besides, not every dark-skinned person is ‘black African’ or akin to say…Zulu people, Bantu people, Pigmy people, Masaai people etc..,. There are South Indians and some Polynesians who are as black as they come by skin-color, but has no genetic connection to ‘black Africans’. Also I don’t think most people deny that there were ‘black Africans’ amongst the ranks of Moorish Conquerers. What people dispute or deny is the idea that the Moors were entirely or majority ‘black Africans’ and that North African/Mediterranean looking Africans weren’t there and these sorts of hypotheses are purely Afro-Centrist agenda-driven fabrications. Like, just because The San people in Africa have stereotypically Asian facial features, doesn’t mean there’s a genetic link between them and the native Inhabitants of Japan or China, yet there are Afro-Centrists who peddle the lie that they are original Asians 🤷🏽‍♂️😅 And there’s Eurocentrists who think that there was an Aryan Invasion of Indian Subcontinent where blue-eyed,blonde-haired, pale-skinned people who brought civilization to India even though the ‘Aryan’ migrants are actually from Iran-Iraq regions and not from Skandinavia 😂 There’s a lot of nuances that’s all.
@baibureh3268
@baibureh3268 23 күн бұрын
​@@Weezy-zy9qytalking points of a eurocentrist
@theprancingrat
@theprancingrat 23 күн бұрын
​@baibureh3268 it's fine to be wrong just gotta recognize it and learn
@gamalnassertv
@gamalnassertv 23 күн бұрын
Blackamoor (decorative arts), you're welcome.
@baibureh3268
@baibureh3268 22 күн бұрын
@@theprancingrat in this case might you enlighten me as to who is wrong and on what topic did that analysis derived from.
@PMMagro
@PMMagro Ай бұрын
The "Moors" invading Iberia in 711 and the ones in Granada 1492 must have changed alot. As a Swede "blåmän" is very clearly "blue men". Black-blue ("blåsvart") is a deep black colour used still but for hair but our parents generations said blue negro (black as dark as black-blue). Berber/Turag blue is a wll know term for that people today though. I just had to say that black-blue skin is not as weird in Scandianvian as it might seem in English.
@fritolaid6805
@fritolaid6805 Ай бұрын
I think Tuaregs wore blue clothing which dyed their skin blue
@John_Saint-Patrick
@John_Saint-Patrick Ай бұрын
Alfred Gustav Badin... "Morianen". Morianen = The Moor
@Bbderbala
@Bbderbala Ай бұрын
​@@fritolaid6805 Exactly, they call themselves "Blue men" too
@uniformityofnature1488
@uniformityofnature1488 Ай бұрын
Moors pre date Islam, Moors being Arabs is one of the biggest lie fabricated. The first moors were what we’d call Cushities or Ethiopians from Nubia. Washing the Ethiopian (or at some periods the Blackamoor) White is one of Aesop's Fables and is numbered 393 in the Perry Index. This text dates back to 500AD. They were in Europe or known before Islam. The moors were blacks from North Africa, even parts of Mali. These Guys took many trophy wives and had many mixed kids hence why today even the North African paternal linage is directly descended from these groups while the maternal is a mixture of euroasian women with minor South saharan admixture. During the early Middle Ages African empires were at the peak of their imperial prowess for example Kanem Borno in Nigeria and Chad( lasted 900 years ) and encompassed almost all of modern libya as it’s zenith. The Mai of Borno trace their linage to Nubia.
@tpnpzauber4795
@tpnpzauber4795 Ай бұрын
The amazigh touaregs are famous for their blue colored clothing merely for practical reason related to the fact that this exact colour is a very effective against desert heat
Ай бұрын
I am a Sicilian & my ethnic DNA is part Arab, Berber & black African but mostly Greco-Italian.
@gamalnassertv
@gamalnassertv 23 күн бұрын
How much of each component, in particular black African?
23 күн бұрын
@@gamalnassertv 9% Arab, 4% African & 64% Greco-Italian
@albertwayne2323
@albertwayne2323 Ай бұрын
Hi Raffaello, Spanish here and long term fan and follower of your channel. I don't know the common knowledge about this topic in the US, but here in Spain we know that moors (we call them 'moros" from "maurus / mauri" in the exact way we say 'toro' for "taurus" or bull) are heavily mixed. Commonly we're taught that the moors in Spain were a majority of North African people ruled by an Arab elite and intermixed with them with Black Africans added to the mix. By the way I don't know the exact battles but it's also common knowledge here that the Islamic kings fought with black slaves. There are drawns and pictures representing moorish troops with black people in chains fighting; I even remember one account about that specifically by the Almoravids. And you can see the arms of Navarre in the Coat of Arms of Spain actually. By the way one famous surname here in Spain is 'Matamoros' which means 'Moorish killer'.
@gillsejusbates6938
@gillsejusbates6938 Ай бұрын
i hate moors
@Shaq34332
@Shaq34332 Ай бұрын
They brainwashed you!
@brahmaistrash.indiaisatoil5292
@brahmaistrash.indiaisatoil5292 Ай бұрын
You are delusional
@gkase3979
@gkase3979 29 күн бұрын
You forgot the canannites/Phoenician/cathaginians were in the Maghreb before the Arabs
@OseeQuanKang
@OseeQuanKang 10 күн бұрын
Which are the black people (Mauri)
@gstvntt
@gstvntt Ай бұрын
You're killing it with the uploads!
@pavelavietor1
@pavelavietor1 Ай бұрын
love how he made all this up , an ItaloMoro that consume tomatoes from the United States Mexicanos and believe and defend Pizza is From Napoles , hahajaja. to comical I love this channel , saludos
@metatronyt
@metatronyt Ай бұрын
Thanks! Moor to come
@pavelavietor1
@pavelavietor1 Ай бұрын
@@metatronyt thank you Romano you are the best. saludos
@jacquesstrapp3219
@jacquesstrapp3219 Ай бұрын
@@pavelavietor1 Pizza’s history begins in Italy, with the earliest documentation dating back to 997 AD in Gaeta. It evolved from flatbread dishes in Naples between the 16th and mid-18th century. The modern pizza we recognize, with toppings like tomatoes and cheese, became popular among the working poor of Naples as an inexpensive and quick meal. The name ‘pizza’ was first recorded in central and southern Italy, and it spread globally through Italian emigrants. Here is a link to educate yourself. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_pizza
@TheSeeking2know
@TheSeeking2know Ай бұрын
@@pavelavietor1👍🏾
@braedynhoward3644
@braedynhoward3644 Ай бұрын
So glad you covered this! I just arrived in Morocco a few weeks ago and am studying abroad... the Moroccan people have been explaining their ancient, medieval, and modern history to me, talking about the Islamic influence, Berber (Amazigh) influence, Sub-Saharan influence, and their history with Europe and Christians as well as Jews. They stress multiculturalism and acceptance, with some tensions towards Europeans. They also seem to want to distance themselves from Sub-Saharan Africans historically and modern day. While a lot of what they have to say is interesting, I was left wondering how history, in general, classified these people and what their interactions with Europe and Christians were ACTUALLY like, in comparison to the ideas Moroccans have about history. Many Moroccans, including my professors, are slightly biased against European and Christian history, but also against some Islamic history, and also want to be distinct from darker Africans. So, I'm attempting to do more research. Edit: Also, I would LOVE it if you would make more videos about Islamic history. Because I'm living in an Islamic country and am surrounded by Muslims (of Moroccan culture and descent, obviously), including my professors, I am interested in learning more about the spread of Islam from a nonbiased perspective and its history in certain regions and in historical events.
@margareta9081
@margareta9081 Ай бұрын
Please do!
@thevoyagerv4499
@thevoyagerv4499 Ай бұрын
They are separated by an entire impassable desert, how can you get anymore separate.
@hez859
@hez859 Ай бұрын
​​​@@thevoyagerv4499 wasnt THAT inpassable. This narative that there was zero contact like that is simply not true. Many moroccans lived in Timbuktu for instance.. this description he says of Moroccans is extremely generalized. I know plenty of Moroccans that are closer with black Africans than Europans and I know a few that talk about having black Moroccan relatives
@xouri8009
@xouri8009 Ай бұрын
Then you gonna be even more surprised about the berbers. Check them out, they also inhabited and still do, Morocco.
@margareta9081
@margareta9081 Ай бұрын
@@hez859 ok most Moroccan's couldn't pass for Nigerian or Congolese and genetically we're NOT the same most black Africans don't have Arab admixture!.
@nydz2697
@nydz2697 Ай бұрын
As an mixed Berber (half Dutch, half Moroccan Berber). I can say from a genetic standpoint that entire Maghreb is still Berber genetically. They haven’t really mixed throughout time. Barely any North African has Arab admixture in their dna. The only thing that happened is that majority got arabized. Meaning they started talking more Arabic and less Tmazight. Most of our grandmas still have the Berber face tattoos. Next to all of this most North African people tan to a dark brown colour but, with less sun have an olive yellowish or as I say a caramel skin tone. The reason for example that Tuaregs are so diverse and have a lot of black skinned berbers. Is because they are a nomadic Berber tribe with a lot of Nigerian admixture. Hope this kinda clears things up.
@evanpereira3555
@evanpereira3555 Ай бұрын
Exaclty. According to studies (using haplogroup), around half of the DNA of modern Northwest African comes directly from Berber heritage. Genes of Arab contribution account for less than a quarter, except in Lybia wherethey reach around 40% (which is still slightly less than Berber DNA). The rest comes from other external contributions (mainly European and Levantine in the North and Subsaharian in the South).
@Strive4MoorKnowledge
@Strive4MoorKnowledge Ай бұрын
Fulanis in Nigeria are in the same group like what is this guy talking about
@nydz2697
@nydz2697 Ай бұрын
@@Strive4MoorKnowledge Fulani and Tuareg do look a like. Just like entire rif looks like eachother with some exceptions.
@yojimbosatoshi
@yojimbosatoshi Ай бұрын
You guys are like the Mexicans of the Muslims
@nydz2697
@nydz2697 Ай бұрын
@@yojimbosatoshi Not really. Most are still indigenous. Most have around 80% Berber dna and then some Italian and Iberian because of the Roman’s and Spanish invaders. Mexicans are mixed a lot more. We still have our native tongue and culture in some areas for example Al Hoceima. We still live in tribes some are nomadic and some aren’t. Nomadic tribes will be more like Mexicans because they mix a lot. Nomadic tribes are a minority and most tribes don’t like mixing with foreigners.
@ther3
@ther3 Ай бұрын
🔥 My favorite teacher. Bravo desde España! 👏🏽👏🏽
@anomaly8751
@anomaly8751 Ай бұрын
Mori in Greek is now pronounced "mav-ree" Modern meaning for "black people" It is not really a negative term.
@turinturambar347
@turinturambar347 Ай бұрын
I ran into an Afrocentrist recently who called himself a Moore. He thinks they’re all Moores. He then called me a colonizer because of my European ancestry. I reminded him that the Moors invaded and colonized Spain and attempted to push further into the continent before being pushed back. So as I said, if you truly are a Moor, then your ancestors taught the Europeans everything they know about colonization. He got angry and walked away with his megaphone.
@karimmodewna2457
@karimmodewna2457 Ай бұрын
Well "moores" didn't taught Europeans about colonization lol that's really the stupidest shit I saw here white kangs and black kangs are really funny, Europeans were into colonization even before Islam ask the romans and Greeks and franks about it Also the "moores" didn't make the countries they conquered a hole like Europeans did with Africa "moores" made a jewel in the middle of the shithole western Europe was and they didn't had to commit genocides and ethnic cleansing for that, that's why you can't name any genocide committed by them while I can start naming the ones Europeans did and I won't stop by tomorrow, they didn't commit 1% of what Europeans did in Namibia alone, so don't play the victim and throw your shit on us
@deadmoney5580
@deadmoney5580 Ай бұрын
​@@karimmodewna2457"Moors", or arabs , never made any "jewels" in western europe they were prevented any meaningfull occupation in western europe by Charles Martel. Your bias and misinformation is absurd , you sound psychotic in your anti european rage, seek help.
@sallywag8489
@sallywag8489 Ай бұрын
Ok colonizer
@turinturambar347
@turinturambar347 Ай бұрын
@@sallywag8489 Thank you!
@wasif2881
@wasif2881 Ай бұрын
He is just racist I guess. Thinking that every white person is a colonizer is very delusional. Afro-centrism,Euro-Centrism etc divide people.
@pickme.picker
@pickme.picker Ай бұрын
I'm Maltese and there are lots of legends about the horrible things the moors did to us throughout history. Perhaps you could dive deeper into the origin of stories like this in Malta, Sicily, Italy etc...
@unaihernandez330
@unaihernandez330 Ай бұрын
Search about Almanzor probably you find similarities with his actions in Spain.
@Arab-1995s
@Arab-1995s Ай бұрын
This is propaganda
@Arab-1995s
@Arab-1995s Ай бұрын
​@@unaihernandez330 What did Al Mansour do?
@averagesauceenjoyer7209
@averagesauceenjoyer7209 Ай бұрын
That's a lie, they were the good guys
@MalikaGhawta
@MalikaGhawta Ай бұрын
Lol you are literally a moor speaking an Arabic (maltese) dialect that was converted by force to Christianity
@lilneefe
@lilneefe Ай бұрын
White and black is modern terms that ancient people never use nationality is the order of the day
@gamalnassertv
@gamalnassertv Ай бұрын
The Moors were composed of Moroccan and Mauritanian Berber tribes, Umayyad Arabs, native Iberian Muslims, and Black Africans. You should check out some of the genetic studies on Islamic burial sites around Iberia, confirms a lot of this, but with most being mixed between Southern European and North African populations.
@Galbaudix
@Galbaudix Ай бұрын
Moors literally just means inhabitants of the Mauritanian kingdom which were from the mauri tribe a Berber tribe so moors weren't blacks nor Arabs they were Berbers
@JannyBesmircher
@JannyBesmircher Ай бұрын
​@@GalbaudixAnd Berbers are/were white/Eurasian not Sub Saharan Africans.
@admirekashiri9879
@admirekashiri9879 Ай бұрын
Indeed
@seekingallknowledge
@seekingallknowledge Ай бұрын
​@@Galbaudix 🤦🏽‍♂️ you guys are so ignorant it amazes me. Berber was a language, just like arab/arabic.. ITS NOT A NATIONALITY OR IDENTITY...
@admirekashiri9879
@admirekashiri9879 Ай бұрын
@@seekingallknowledge I have and what he is saying is true! 🤷🏾‍♂️
@mrh4900
@mrh4900 Ай бұрын
It’s okay to be Anglo Saxon
@lionandwolfboy8714
@lionandwolfboy8714 Ай бұрын
​@Monk_ChudI'm assuming you come from an alternate timeline where the Muslims won the Battle of Tours and conquered Saxony?.
@KevinPlump
@KevinPlump Ай бұрын
Why?
@danorris5235
@danorris5235 Ай бұрын
Not if you're a "white" AS. 😂 College teaches me words actually don't mean anything unless they're the ones I'm supposed to write down to prove that I think the way I'm supposed to regardless of what the evidence says.
@ordinaryrat
@ordinaryrat Ай бұрын
What is the point of this comment? I see it everywhere on videos that don't even have anything to do with white people. I agree with what you are saying but I don't think there is a point in getting as annoying as the other side to try to prove a point.
@pl0xie494
@pl0xie494 Ай бұрын
​@@ordinaryratI assume it's a dogwhistle of some kind if its being said alot
@Kaito-jr
@Kaito-jr Ай бұрын
Fun fact: There are also Moors in the Philippines. There, Muslims are commonly referred to as "Moros" (moors). This term originated during the Spanish colonial period when Spanish colonizers used the word "Moro" to describe the Muslims in the southern Philippines, particularly in the Mindanao region and the Sulu Archipelago. Another fun fact: the Spanish expression "no hay moros en la costa" (literally, "there are no Moors on the coast") originated during the centuries when coastal regions of Spain were frequently raided by Muslim pirates from North Africa (Barbary corsairs). People would warn each other if "Moros" (Moors) were spotted, as these raids posed a danger. If the coast was clear, they’d say, “no hay moros en la costa,” meaning it was safe to go about their activities. Over time, it became a figurative way of saying "the coast is clear," or "there’s no danger." I wonder if in Sicily, home of Metatron, there is also a similar expression.
@azborderlands
@azborderlands Ай бұрын
Fun fact, those “colonizers” were actual CRIOLLOS. Mexican born Spanish people who already had culturally accepted the term “Moro” in their terminology and used it to describe many things. They departed from Mèxico and brought the THLAXCALAS with them to invade the Philippines for a bit.
@madizo9056
@madizo9056 Ай бұрын
As an Algerian, I thank you for the clarification. I really hate that my history keeps getting stolen today. Cheers from the other side of the Mediterranean
@aulenebeckford6268
@aulenebeckford6268 Ай бұрын
Are you original people to Africa?
@Akbgbvow
@Akbgbvow Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@madizo9056
@madizo9056 Ай бұрын
@@aulenebeckford6268 am I a colonizer, no
@secondchance6603
@secondchance6603 Ай бұрын
@@madizo9056 'am I a colonizer, no' Your intolerant racist, sexist Muslim slave trading ancestors were though.
@incogb6696
@incogb6696 Ай бұрын
Algerians are just like them tho
@DanteChazydarthvader
@DanteChazydarthvader Ай бұрын
Apparently Portugal is not part of the Iberian Peninsula
@soulknife20
@soulknife20 Ай бұрын
Since when? It's right there. It's been that way since, forever
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 Ай бұрын
​@@soulknife20it is part of Cornwall, England.
@vansan2120
@vansan2120 Ай бұрын
Apparently Portugal was never occupied by the moors
@paulos012456
@paulos012456 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this comment, brother. The disrespect to the heroes and the nation is insane.
@Neoprototype
@Neoprototype Ай бұрын
Portugal belongs to Spain.
@dshevach77
@dshevach77 Ай бұрын
I come from a morrocan-jewish family, blonde green eyes as most individuals from my whole family, originally from spain, later resettled in fez, tetuan, casablanca, marrakesh, essouria, there are morrocan of all colors, from white red-haired to black. People just dont know the history of north africa, the mix of peoples and cultures, from semites such as myself, arabs, phonecians, to greeks, italians, spanish, portuguese, german (as north africa had a german vandal kindgom) to blacks coming from numidea, mali and other places
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer Ай бұрын
❤❤ That's just neat about your family! My sis has red hair and green eyes and looks Italian, I have light gold skin and look Polish or Russian, and my brother looks like Nicolai Tesla. 😅 Then I have a 'little' sister who's six feet tall and looks like a Nordic fantasy or something. My mom is Mediterranean-Western European and dad was Eastern European. So we are colorful, yes!!
@damedash3226
@damedash3226 Ай бұрын
@@dshevach77 what makes you think Black people had to come in, but all the other group you mentioned didn’t have to migrate to North Africa? I truly want to know who taught you that Black Africans aren’t indigenous to North Africa.
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer Ай бұрын
@@damedash3226 Show some evidence for an ancient black kingdom in Morocco, and then we can talk. Right now you're just sounding like you want to be provocative. 🤔😅
@damedash3226
@damedash3226 Ай бұрын
@@FireflowerDancer Ancient Maauratina is where the blackamoors came from. The original berber people were Black African. Maybe you suffer from the same thing metatron suffers from, where in your mind a Black person has to be from the Congo or they aren’t Black. Look up the archaeological records of North Africa. All of the ancient remains show tropical aka negroid skeletal types. None of this new information. This has been known since the 20’s.
@seekingallknowledge
@seekingallknowledge Ай бұрын
​@@damedash3226 islam fam, @FireFlowerDancer is a bit delusional🤪💫🥴. Even in the face of truth, she'll still deny. Take baby steps with these children👍🏽.
@erichamilton3373
@erichamilton3373 Ай бұрын
There's a group of African Americans who call themselves Moors. They claim to be indigenous to North America as they descend from a Moorish Empire that conquored North America 1.000 years ago. They would disagree with this video.
@Baniadam_3ady
@Baniadam_3ady Ай бұрын
African Americans are getting out of hand
@afaria6173
@afaria6173 Ай бұрын
they aren't relevant to this conversation. Just meddlers.
@margareta9081
@margareta9081 Ай бұрын
@@erichamilton3373 😂 😭💯 of course they're African American....
@thecaracarn6544
@thecaracarn6544 Ай бұрын
Lmao
@James-yp6kt
@James-yp6kt Ай бұрын
I bet you didn't know they wuz kangz
@Danielle-zq7kb
@Danielle-zq7kb Ай бұрын
In my grandfather’s historical novels there was a term blackamoor that was included as a descriptor distinct from Moor that was also used. These books were from the 1950’s and earlier.
@d.o.a7552
@d.o.a7552 Ай бұрын
Now do the Barbary slave trade
@KSmithwick1989
@KSmithwick1989 Ай бұрын
Turns out a lot of the pirates captains were not even North Africans. There were a significant number of Turks and Europeans taking advantage of the situation. They essentially function as mercenaries sometimes hired by the Christians to attack Catholics and Protestants or vice versa. So of them like Jack Ward and Jan Janzoon, are highly regarded in their home countries. In general, the raids outside the Mediterranean were conducted by European pirates who already knew the areas they were attacking. Often with support of their home country because it benefited them, by undermining their rivals.
@d.o.a7552
@d.o.a7552 Ай бұрын
@KSmithwick1989 most of them were Muslims of varying background it was an institute of the Ottoman Empire with some European and Africans helping
@dreamer554
@dreamer554 Ай бұрын
​@@KSmithwick1989 Care to site were you have acquired such information?
@maassrddd
@maassrddd Ай бұрын
IT was the Ottomans and christians
@d.o.a7552
@d.o.a7552 Ай бұрын
@KSmithwick1989 it was the ottomans mostly with small numbers of Africans and Europeans. The barber coast were Muslim Ottoman territory, which is why it was called the barbery slave trade
@Playwright-Lorde
@Playwright-Lorde Ай бұрын
Hoteps incoming. Can already hear the war drums in the distance.
@ruanniemann2604
@ruanniemann2604 Ай бұрын
I smell the kfc
@illuminahde
@illuminahde Ай бұрын
Praise Yakub
@KevinPlump
@KevinPlump Ай бұрын
​@@ruanniemann2604 I smell a jealous troglodyte cave dweller
@KevinPlump
@KevinPlump Ай бұрын
What exactly is a hotep?
@rainmaker9300
@rainmaker9300 Ай бұрын
@@KevinPlump Hotep? Hoteph? Hotef??? An ancient egyptian name, I take it.
@DarkPassenger
@DarkPassenger Ай бұрын
According to the moors they invented everything, and were the first everything...
@brunobastos5533
@brunobastos5533 Ай бұрын
The fact is they really get many thing the fact you call 1 2 3 algorism because of one Moor
@adamjg5061
@adamjg5061 Ай бұрын
@@brunobastos5533 a persian came up with that right? they were already civilized before they became muslims.
@Wizzy678
@Wizzy678 Ай бұрын
No the ppl who are saying that do that because they claim moors were black like them, the real moors in north africa right now dont say that.
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer Ай бұрын
@@DarkPassenger "Technically that was the Greeks!!" 😅 (It works for me, I have Greek ancestry lol I'm just kidding around). I had not heard that about the Moors, though. Can you tell us . . . Moor? kk I'm out!
@seekingallknowledge
@seekingallknowledge Ай бұрын
​@@FireflowerDancer your still so ignorant😕
@iX_ETHER
@iX_ETHER Ай бұрын
The more i read these comments on these type of videos the more i hate being called" Black". Black is not a Culture nor a People
@seekingallknowledge
@seekingallknowledge Ай бұрын
💯
@TheAndreArtus
@TheAndreArtus Ай бұрын
The term "blackamoor" (before being used to reference an art trope ) was used to specifically refer to black Africans.
@alpharius_nox
@alpharius_nox Ай бұрын
@@TheAndreArtus The word means “black as a moor”.
@ibrahimihsan2090
@ibrahimihsan2090 Ай бұрын
Ok. But if you wanna connect that to Moors as a whole then it's would be logically fallacious.
@alpharius_nox
@alpharius_nox Ай бұрын
@@ibrahimihsan2090 Can you show me any source prior to the 19th Century, where “moor” refers to anything other than a black African?
@ibrahimihsan2090
@ibrahimihsan2090 Ай бұрын
@@alpharius_nox First of all, I am not an academic, I am a lay person. Second, whilst terms derived from the term "moor" did eventually mean "black people" in different langauges, the etymological derivatives of that term was also used(if not mostly) for Muslims from an Iberian perspective. The Moro people in the Phillipines were called that by the Spanish because they were Muslim, not black. Same with the Muslims in India and Sri Lanka whom were called Moors by the Portuguese. Anyhow, I am glad people who wanna have genuine educational discussions or just wanna learn something are the majority in this video's comment section, unlike some of Metatron's other videos.
@unaihernandez330
@unaihernandez330 Ай бұрын
​@@alpharius_noxIn Spain now moro means person from Magreb but sometimes it's use for al islamic people in general and sometimes for arabic people.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 Ай бұрын
As a little autist i noticed the diversity of black phenotypes. Most were very dark brown but a couple ppl I knew had super black skin.
@ROMANTIKILLER2
@ROMANTIKILLER2 Ай бұрын
Very informative as usual. I can see some parallels between the use of the term "Moors" and "scimitar": an umbrella definition used by Europeans to describe a more or less specific category of islamic people/swords, which found no use among by these same populations.
@ibrahimihsan2090
@ibrahimihsan2090 Ай бұрын
The term "scimitar" is arguably a French corruption of the term "shamshir" which is a Persian sword. While Turkish swords are called "Kilic/Kilij" and the Arab swords are called "saif". There are more terms but these are the most famous. Also, it is argued that all these swords descended from Ancient Central Asian curved swords hence why they are all categorized as "scimitar" by the West despite being known by many different names in different regions.
@mehdia5924
@mehdia5924 Ай бұрын
Hello @metatronyt. You did a great video explaining the history the Moors of north africa and Morocco. As a moroccan who follows your channel, I am very pleased. Yet I could notice some inaccuracies. What you said about the Greek and Latin origins of the word Mauro Mauri is all true. Yet you omitted to mention the berber roots of the word Mauro/Mauri it comes actually from the berber word Ammour Ittan which means the far land (realm) from byond in berber Ammour meaning Land (mother land) and ittan far away. This demonination is due to the complex sociocultural structure of the berber tribes at that time. From the Iberomorusian groups till the late antiquity berbers, the socioéconomic structures of the population were based agropastoral activity which led them adopt tribal and clanic social structures. In search for fertile lands and in order to fructify they trades they established a seminomadic life style that adapts according to climate change (rain seasons, drought, and desertification episodes) and the geopolitics. Berbers (or Amazigh /Immazighen) during these eras difined themselves according their their tribal allegiance ; specially during times of clanic and tribal wars. Yet when interacting with neighbouring cultures (Iberians, Italics, Greeks, Phoenicians, Romans, Vandals and Nors), they define themselves as from Ammour Ittan, The berbers used to define themselves by their land. By hearing the word, the greeks helenised it and created the word Mauretania to locate their place of origin (With Mauretania Tingitana for the north of Morocco and its trading post Tingis the actual Tangier, and Mauretania Caesaria for the actual north of Algeria during the roman period) and the word Mauro/Mauri. Only this time the latter word was not related anymore to the specific geographic place (North Africa) but rather to the population's skin tone. When The greeks encountered us (or our ancestors) they described them as curly dark haired men and women with hazel eyes and bronz skin. The Moors like you said are a stereotypical depection crafted by the christian european states during the middle ages, they would rather consider all the muslims coming from north Africa as a uniform ethnic and political entity. The moors like you said are the byproduct of various mixing of populations during time according to eras. One of the most vivid examples is the case of the Moorish Spaniards (Muslim andalusians and sefardic Jews) and their descendants the moriscos. The funny thing is that they look more like europeans than berbers and arabs why? because their north african ancestors (half berbers half arabs) intermied with the Iberian natives for nearly a millenium. Another inaccuracy I noticed is that at the 13th minute of the video you depicted the moors as arabs. They are muslims so of cours they would have a strong arab cultural and religious back ground, never the less, the vast majority of the moors were berbers or of mixed ancestry of arabs and berbers. But there is an exception that applies on the populations that have their paternal ancestry directly related to House Banu Hashim, this part of the population called shurfa "Noble Ones ; those of nobility", descend directly from the prophet Mohamed's lineage and have a status of nobility among the Moors and the muslims in general. Ethnically and Antherplogically speaking this part of the population is rather defined as a cluster of berberised arabs who kept their paternal arabian lineage for 13 centuries. The most famous moroccan noble houses are the Alawits of the Alawit Dynasty who rule Morocco for more than 400 years and the Idrissid Houses and clans who descend from the Dynast king founder of the Kingdom of Morocco Idriss the first or the Grand Idriss (Idriss Al Akbar). Just one correction please, the Map of present day Morocco shouldn't split into two pieces. Our borders in the south extend till Mauritania. Anyway it is a very impressive video, and I'm pleased that you are also interrested in neareastern and south mediterranean cultures. A pleasure to be your follower have a good day fratello.
@YeS1711
@YeS1711 Ай бұрын
2:42 not sure how much the ancient word μαυροι has changed in modern greek, but the word means "black". The word for someone dark skinned but not black is μελαχρινος.
@lucha0075db
@lucha0075db Ай бұрын
Good to see some people correcting this guy. right or wrong.
@byaran1
@byaran1 Ай бұрын
You are right, all one has to do is Highlight the words, right click and choose translate
@uniformityofnature1488
@uniformityofnature1488 Ай бұрын
False
@uniformityofnature1488
@uniformityofnature1488 Ай бұрын
Not correct
@YeS1711
@YeS1711 Ай бұрын
@@uniformityofnature1488 what? Dude I'm a native speaker. Explain yourself.
@weeooh1
@weeooh1 Ай бұрын
Any my grandmother once told me anecdotes? Your work is incomplete without those. 😆
@ibrahimihsan2090
@ibrahimihsan2090 Ай бұрын
No, I want all that to end. I want genuine discussions, not low IQ, immature, sometimes racist trolls.
@tomfuller4205
@tomfuller4205 Ай бұрын
Here in the States “Blues” are Blacks whose skin is so dark they do have a bluish tinge.
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer Ай бұрын
When my mom was a kid growing up in LA, there was one kid in the neighborhood that was extra good at night time hide and seek, he was so dark. But my mom told me, I kid you not, one night she caught him because when he smiled his teeth pretty much glowed in the dark! I don't mean to be odd, or rude to point it out, but I sometimes stare when people are that dark. I think it's beautiful!
@soulknife20
@soulknife20 Ай бұрын
Blue gums. Don't use that in polite society by the way
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer Ай бұрын
​@@soulknife20I never heard that phrase, but I'll take your word for it 👍
@tomfuller4205
@tomfuller4205 Ай бұрын
@@soulknife20 The only people that I have ever heard use that term were not white people.
@roringusanda2837
@roringusanda2837 Ай бұрын
​@@soulknife20I've also heard blue-nails, as you were supposed to be able to tell even distant B ancestry by the bluish shade at the base of the fingernails.
@persieprince9345
@persieprince9345 Ай бұрын
As a moor im not black plus i have green eyes, but my ancestors used to trade with slaves So anyone want to claim we are black i need to remind him with what was real history ,arabs and Berbers took blacks only as slaves and even worse castrated slaves The blacks in Morocco gained some social status only after the 1600 and you can look about the history of what was called the slaves of al bukhari the era of Ismail dynasty
@gamalnassertv
@gamalnassertv Ай бұрын
Where are you from?
@Ace-sb4il
@Ace-sb4il Ай бұрын
Have you ever heard of the Barbary slave trade
@gamalnassertv
@gamalnassertv Ай бұрын
@@Ace-sb4il Have you ever heard of genetic studies: A study in 2023 that sampled modern haplogroups from 264 Algerian Berbers (Chaoui), found many to be linked to the Neolithization of North Africa from Iberia. The times of coalescence for these clades were ~6,000 ybp for H1cb1, U3a1c, and U5b1b1e. The other European origin lineages like H1e1a, were given a time of ~3000 ybp, as they were also found in the Canary Islands. Middle Eastern origin lineages like J2a2d were dated to ~9,000 ybp, and was said to represent potential pre-agricultural contact between the Near-East and North Africa. T1a7 was associated with Arabization and Bedouin expansion from 1,000 ybp. Sub-Saharan lineages like L3e5, L3b1a9a were dated to ~ 10,000-5000 ybp, and may be from trans-Saharan migration during the Green Sahara period with a prehistoric origin. However, the great majority of sub-Saharan sequences in North Africa do not form phylogenetic clades, and therefore, show no signals of having evolved in North Africa. This is in accordance with a recent arrival for the majority to the region as suggested by the genome wide evidence. 'Whole mitogenomes reveal that NW Africa has acted both as a source and a destination for multiple human movements'
@jbone9900
@jbone9900 Ай бұрын
You lie stop it.
@gamalnassertv
@gamalnassertv Ай бұрын
@@Ace-sb4il And have you heard of the Khef el Baroud ancient Moroccans, as well as the Trans-Saharan trade?
@ordinaryrat
@ordinaryrat Ай бұрын
I think it would be intresting to hear more of Islamic empires. In the west or at least in America we barely hear about them at all.
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer Ай бұрын
Absolutely! A basic discourse on the Caliphate and Ummah would be really revelant, imo.
@als3022
@als3022 Ай бұрын
There is a reason, admitting the invasions means the Crusades are a political event with lots of context, not a stick to beat with.
@someanimefan5990
@someanimefan5990 Ай бұрын
​@@als3022Yeah and it also means talking smack about non white people which academia is against
@unaihernandez330
@unaihernandez330 Ай бұрын
In Spain we learn about it in school. It's important for our history and in Portugal too
@mugiwara7347
@mugiwara7347 Ай бұрын
Flash point history did amazing long format video on the caliphate. Especially the on in spain. You should check it out. It's amazing
@joshbuddha6112
@joshbuddha6112 Ай бұрын
As a black man; i apologize for other black people stealing other peoples histories.. Its frustrating because black history is very interesting and we don't need to steal others people's histories.
@waynemyers2469
@waynemyers2469 Ай бұрын
No apologies necessary but you have earned a seat at the table the grown-ups sit at during the nearly mythological "Caucasian Barbeque at the end of time". Just bring your own hot-sauce if you don't like mayonnaise...😉
@GeromeSmith-me9im
@GeromeSmith-me9im Ай бұрын
Black history before europeans. Huts Spears Being butt naked. How fascinating 🙄
@gamalnassertv
@gamalnassertv Ай бұрын
Likewise, it's beyond ridiculous 👍🏿
@pjmccoy9682
@pjmccoy9682 Ай бұрын
You ain’t black … just off how you started your statement it’s easy to see! You don’t see other races apologizing!
@casualpain8316
@casualpain8316 Ай бұрын
@@pjmccoy9682 There's no black or white....it's just different ethnicities. When you see at the world as different ethnicities then it becomes clearer.
@TankinatorFR
@TankinatorFR Ай бұрын
Wait, there is people who believe the moors to be something else than what's presented here ?
@metatronyt
@metatronyt Ай бұрын
Yes there are channels that push the agenda that they were all Black. That's nonsense.
@haaxeu6501
@haaxeu6501 Ай бұрын
There's a number of terminally online black supremacists (mostly americans of course) who want to appropriate and identify as "moors", they say things like "we conquered Europe and taught white ppl how to bathe". Of course, the "moors" weren't all black, they were mostly berber and arab, they didn't conquer Europe, but only Iberia, and they didn't teach white people to bathe, so it's just racist and hateful revisionist history. And even IF the moors were indeed black and did all those things, it's moronic that some black americans think it means they are related, Africa is a huge continent and Black people are not all related. It would be like if Italian people claimed and appropriated the Vikings.
@Snoy_Fly
@Snoy_Fly Ай бұрын
@@M86KIA Yes, same people...
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 Ай бұрын
some Mediterraneans have lnferiority complex, just take a look at all these crybabies trying to run away from their African bIood. lmao
@michaelthethinker7214
@michaelthethinker7214 Ай бұрын
@@metatronyt That’s interesting. I’ve watched a lot of videos about the Moors. The predominant view is that there were both Arab Moors and Blackamoors - so mixed. The real argument seems to be - were they mostly Arab or mostly black? I do remember seeing one that said they were mostly black Arabs. Anyways, I haven’t seen any that say they were ALL black. Could you post some links? I’d like to hear their arguments.
@pejuodunlami238
@pejuodunlami238 22 күн бұрын
Thank you very much Metatron for this exposure. Love from Nigeria
@deeipomar2366
@deeipomar2366 Ай бұрын
As an Egyptian Arab, I can confirm that your Arabic pronunciation is impressively correct, but again I wouldn't expect nothing less from a linguistic expert such as yourself.
@AmunRaa
@AmunRaa Ай бұрын
What does "Egyptian arab" mean ?
@deeipomar2366
@deeipomar2366 Ай бұрын
@@AmunRaa An Egyptian whose native language is Arabic
@AmunRaa
@AmunRaa Ай бұрын
@@deeipomar2366 so algerian are algerian french, Nigerians are Nigerian English and chads are chad french ? Because you conflict language with ethnicity
@deeipomar2366
@deeipomar2366 Ай бұрын
@@AmunRaa To be honest, I could care less. I just wanted to make it obvious to the reader that I am an Egyptian whose native tongue is Arabic, as you would be amazed how many foreigners are unaware of this fact. And, for your information, I happen to be a child of a Saudi father and an Egyptian mother, but I was born and raised in Egypt my entire life, therefore I am technically an Egyptian Arab even by your own standards.
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer Ай бұрын
@@deeipomar2366 You shouldn't have to defend that you're both Egyptian and Arab! I happen to know that Egyptians have their very own dialect of the Arabic language which is pretty rad. And you guys still have Coptic, too. I don't get the drama, but for some reason people are like 'jealous' for Egypt and they can't help but go around telling actual Egyptians their own culture! I am a Geeek-American belly dancer and let me tell you, a lot of people don't get what I'm about either. They haters, let them hate. I am having my best life now and I don't have time for it. 🤩
@kinghenryxl1747
@kinghenryxl1747 Ай бұрын
This battle of pop history between the black nationalists (hoteps) and Eurocentrist chauvinists is exhausting
@ejacks3
@ejacks3 Ай бұрын
True indeed!!!
@zeddii7126
@zeddii7126 Ай бұрын
Nah, it’s not even between black and European. We don’t care about both, we Moroccans are the closest descendants of moors and some of us can have fairly tanned skin but we are not black. People stealing our culture is not ok…
@CarlosMunoz-sx7bn
@CarlosMunoz-sx7bn Ай бұрын
​@@zeddii7126I am Spaniard and here in Spain we don't even talk about skin color, we talk about moors and Muslims, sometimes we call them Arabs. But we assume they are Arabs and Bereberes.
@zeddii7126
@zeddii7126 Ай бұрын
@@CarlosMunoz-sx7bn they were 90% Berbers but arabised (just like morocco today, we are ethnically Berbers but official languages is Arab then amazigh)
@anapaiva7962
@anapaiva7962 Ай бұрын
One constructive critique if i may, you didnt say anything about the important part of the first portuguese king, Dom Afonso Henriques in the "Reconquista" of the Iberian Peninsula. Not just Spain!
@brunobastos5533
@brunobastos5533 Ай бұрын
Chateou-me como tudo
@joseanfigueroa8785
@joseanfigueroa8785 Ай бұрын
The accurate name of the peninsula is Spain, 'Iberia' was not used until the 19th century. Even Camoes is identified as 'Principe dos poetas de Hespanha' in 18th century editions of Os Lusiadas.
@pliniojr95
@pliniojr95 Ай бұрын
Tugada como sempre querendo ser mais importantes do que são
@BasedGhoul
@BasedGhoul Ай бұрын
@@pliniojr95 Senhor, you have the understanding of Portuguese/Spanish history of a lobotomized baboon.
@brunobastos5533
@brunobastos5533 Ай бұрын
@@pliniojr95 lol Brazuca , com país de terceiro mundo corrupto , com tamanho para ser dos mais fortes mas como são uma merda como pessoas continuam na fossa
@lero_
@lero_ Ай бұрын
Japan was ruled by black africans, WE WUZ SAMURAIZ AND SHIIIIEET
@Nerdlikehistory
@Nerdlikehistory Ай бұрын
You sound slow
@SuperBROKEN81
@SuperBROKEN81 Ай бұрын
​@@Nerdlikehistory He made a point that you were too slow to get
@YouWish55-h1i
@YouWish55-h1i Ай бұрын
@@SuperBROKEN81 Nah...His point was short bus worthy... So must you be, to entertain such base....'humor'
@SuperBROKEN81
@SuperBROKEN81 Ай бұрын
@@YouWish55-h1i You failed.
@InIt2winIt247
@InIt2winIt247 Ай бұрын
@@lero_ your mother is ruled by a BBC!
@DEML91
@DEML91 Ай бұрын
As a Portuguese, I don't remember Moors ever being depicted as black or all black in the history classes, all it matters for us was that we kicked their asses.
@Arab-1995s
@Arab-1995s Ай бұрын
Civil wars occurred between Muslims
@Arab-1995s
@Arab-1995s Ай бұрын
But we took Anatolia and Constantinople
@beetheking_7
@beetheking_7 Ай бұрын
@@DEML91 racism silly
@meenas8144
@meenas8144 Ай бұрын
​@@Arab-1995s, you did what? Ottomans weren't Arabs. People living under Ottomans may have been predominantly Muslim, but they were not Arabs. Moreover, if you really think about the origins of the women in the sultan's harem, most of the sultans were of North or East European descent.
@meenas8144
@meenas8144 Ай бұрын
@@Arab-1995s Mehmet II's mother, Sultan Huma, was from the Balkans. According to some historians, his son Bayezit II's mother was Greek or Albanian. Some even say she was French. Yes, they do convert to Islam to get better treatment in the harem, but think about it: Would you really accept the religion of your captor willingly? It would be just for the show and nothing sincere.
@Anastasis-is-here
@Anastasis-is-here Ай бұрын
To this very day we still use the word "μαύρος", yes it describes tanned people as well as black people (Αιθίοπας is the word used in antiquity to describe black people), even if you are Germanic for example but you stayed out and got tanned then you will be described as "μαύρος", dark, despite being very white and the tan won't really last that long.
@uniformityofnature1488
@uniformityofnature1488 Ай бұрын
Till this very day, people who say they are descended from Greeks refuse to learn Ancient Greek literature and instead substitute recorded history for brand new Western Europe colonial lies. black-a-moors predate Islam in fact the earliest mention of them comes from Herodotus however during 500AD Washing the Ethiopian (or the Blackamoor) White is one of Aesop's Fables and is numbered 393 in the Perry Index.
@trappedinpodcast7182
@trappedinpodcast7182 Ай бұрын
I’m here. 💆🏿‍♂️
@metatronyt
@metatronyt Ай бұрын
Welcome
@emmanuelseka1026
@emmanuelseka1026 Ай бұрын
Why Black in antiquity doesn't means black as black people today but white means white as white people today. When people described vandal as white no problem they are white as white people today. But when the same person describ mauri as black it doesn't means black people as today.
@Santanna536
@Santanna536 Ай бұрын
Because they love saying moor has nothing to do with our people meanwhile Pope Benedict 16th coat of arms will dispel the nonsense they're spewing. "Sub Saharan" is a made up phrase and a poor recent attempt to remove us from the history of North Africa, just search sub Saharan in Google's Ngram tool to see when that term came into existence. The "Moors Heads"(head of a MOOR) found across EUROPE clearly indicates a history they try to supress with this anything but you guys approach 🤣. From "The Negro Laws of South Carolina" book detailing The Negro Act of 1740. "The term Negro is confined to the slave African (the ancient Berbers) and their descendants. It does not embrace the free inhabitants of Africa, such as the Egyptians, Moors or the Negro Asiatics, such as the Lascars." -- United States Negro Act of 1740 - Section 4
@Xavier-h7c
@Xavier-h7c Ай бұрын
He's pointing out that the language being translated to English has differing native meanings. Not sure why your unable to grasp this, it's really not that difficult.
@musthaveacamel2157
@musthaveacamel2157 Ай бұрын
@@Xavier-h7c He's most likely black so has the IQ to match
@emmanuelseka1026
@emmanuelseka1026 Ай бұрын
@@Xavier-h7c but we don't have this problem when the word is white . How de we know that vandal were white like people we call white today ?
@Santanna536
@Santanna536 Ай бұрын
@@Xavier-h7c You're doing exactly what he was talking about 🤣. White meant the same everywhere?
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin Ай бұрын
_"I can't take these comment section puns."_ - Annie (Moor)
@storkrm
@storkrm Ай бұрын
The Moors? Tell me more!
@metatronyt
@metatronyt Ай бұрын
The Moor you know
@captainobvious1961
@captainobvious1961 Ай бұрын
@@metatronyt I wish you a fine moorning sir
@GentlemenofAction
@GentlemenofAction Ай бұрын
There's moor to come
@edstar83
@edstar83 Ай бұрын
Moore, Roger Moore. Shaken not stirred Gracias.
@adriansheldon7778
@adriansheldon7778 Ай бұрын
​@@GentlemenofActionmoor or less old chap.
@Jer.Har.101
@Jer.Har.101 Ай бұрын
Finally talking about the MOORE'S
@illman8876
@illman8876 Ай бұрын
wrong spelling
@ryantannar5301
@ryantannar5301 Ай бұрын
Moors are African/Arab, Moore are an Irish surname
@SardonianSmile
@SardonianSmile Ай бұрын
Another mastepiece from you- Greetings from Greece fratello mio
@Mackeriv
@Mackeriv Ай бұрын
Hey Metatron, don't forget about Portugal! Both Spain and Portugal were conquered by the Moors. 😅
@xibanyae
@xibanyae Ай бұрын
well, at the moment that happened, they were not Spain nor Portugal, it was the Iberian Peninsula ruled by the Visigoths 😉
@Mackeriv
@Mackeriv Ай бұрын
@@xibanyae Yeah. I was referring to the region currently known as Portugal. Same as Metatron did with Spain.
@joseanfigueroa8785
@joseanfigueroa8785 Ай бұрын
Portugal is a region of Spain which did not join the other regions politically...
@goodaimshield1115
@goodaimshield1115 Ай бұрын
Thing is, historically speaking, the entiere Iberian Peninula (which he mention as such) was called Spain. In fact, this was the case till merely 200 years ago with the birth of nationalism and nation-states. At the time fo the Umayyad conquest, the entire region was a single kingdom called Regum Hispaniorum, but was commonly referd to by everyone as Spania, so in reality, despite what many epople may believe, calling the region Spain, or Epaña, is actually the most accurate way to decribe it. People (not you) claiming there was not a country at the time are completely wrong, there was literally a kingdom called Spania (which is late Latin for Spain, really), so people in previous comments going "They didn't invaded Spain because there was not a country called Spain", well, that's exactly thee name of the KINGDOM they invaded.
@Mackeriv
@Mackeriv Ай бұрын
@@goodaimshield1115 As far as I know (and according to some research I did), the overall region in Roman times was known, to them, as Hispania. That was their province. After that, there was the Visigothic occupation and it became known as Visigothic KIngdom. When the Muslims came over, it had their own designations (i.e. Al-Andalus most of the time). After the Reconquista, several kingdoms showed up (Aragon, Leon, Castile, Portugal, etc). It only gained the name Spain ("España") in late 16th after all these kingdoms (not Portugal though) unified. The name seems to be a revival from Roman times.
Ай бұрын
Alfonso X (1221-1284 AD), king of Castile said: "All of the Moorish soldiers were dressed with silk and black wool that had been forcibily acquired. Their faces were black like pitch and the most handsome of them were black as a cooking pan." (Cantigas of Santa Maria) The Cantigas of Santa Maria were a collection of 420 poems that were partially written by Alfonso X and often attributed to him. This isn't the only person who bare witness to black Moors. Procopius of Ceasarea (500-560 AD), a Bynzantine scholar who wrote in Greek, said in his History of the Wars: "beyond that there are men not black-skinned like the Moors"
@TheProBlackConservative
@TheProBlackConservative Ай бұрын
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@AAAA-ld3dp
@AAAA-ld3dp 23 күн бұрын
Alfonso X in his Manuscript ''Cantigas of Santa Maria'' has depicted all the Moor rulers as non-black, and 98% of its army as non-black. You literally just debunking yourself. John Skylitzes is a Byzantine scholar who made the Skylitzes Manuscript which covers the reigns of the Byzantine, which he depicted the Moor ruler and soldiers/army as non-black.
@TheProBlackConservative
@TheProBlackConservative 22 күн бұрын
@@AAAA-ld3dp Your name is random characters. Your argument falls on deaf ears
@inigo9000
@inigo9000 Ай бұрын
It’s also possible that “blue men” refered to the blue tagelmust or Litham (type of veil & turban) that covers part of the face and was worn by different Imazegh tribes that faced the Sahara conditions especially the Tuareg , they also call them self kel tagelmust( people of the veil) and are often refered to by others as the blue men of the desert
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer Ай бұрын
Yes! Blue was also a very important color in the sacred garments the Israelites wore. Could there perhaps be a connection? 🤔😉
@ketle369
@ketle369 Ай бұрын
No, we didn’t really differentiate in old Norse between dark blue and black.
@wambokodavid7109
@wambokodavid7109 Ай бұрын
Amazigh and tuaregs are different people.amazigh are a new type of people.basically descending from Arabs, Spanish,Romans blah blah and the word is used to describe them selves as a separate"race".tuaregs are black African people who roam the desert although some are mixed with berbers.
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer Ай бұрын
@@wambokodavid7109 Nah, that's bs. Taureg are like other Berbers. I have seen them. They are not a 'black African' group. Although that does not exclude the fact that some of them could, and would be, just like with the other ethnic groups of N Africa. The Nubians are the darkest N. Africans (the Cushites).
@FireflowerDancer
@FireflowerDancer Ай бұрын
@@wambokodavid7109 Amazigh is basically a synonym for Berber, and neither of these terms are fully native.
Ай бұрын
I have not read them yet or bought them but what do you think of books like The Golden Age of The Moors, by Dr. Ivan Van Sertima (1935 - 2009 ) , The Story Of The Moors In Spain, by Stanley Lane-Poole ( 1854-1931)?
@andychrist2922
@andychrist2922 Ай бұрын
Very very dark African people look blue in certain lighting conditions and that is why Scandinavians call these people bluemen
@uniformityofnature1488
@uniformityofnature1488 Ай бұрын
In the ancient and mediaeval world blue was synonymous with black hence why ancient Egyptian deities are painted in blue/dark green or black same in India.
@zeehero7280
@zeehero7280 Ай бұрын
I see your SEGA dreamcast, oh fellow man of culture
@darkgifts420
@darkgifts420 Ай бұрын
Hey Metatron, I have a question. My great Grandfather and Grandfather moved to America in the 1930s from Palermo Siciliy. Everyone in my family for the most part has black hair, brown eyes, and olive skin. I'm getting a lot of different information, about the Moors and that they conquered Siciliy and southern Italy hundreds of years ago. Now if this is true, then were the people there at the time more Caucasian and then the Moors came in and mixed with the population? Some info I get is that I'm mixed with people from African decent, while others say I'm mixed with both African and Middle Eastern ethnicities. Lastly when I did a DNA test it just says Sicilian/Southern Italian but doesn't really give more of a breakdown. I would love to know. Please direct me if you can and thanks so much I really love the work that you do!!
@samiman5606
@samiman5606 Ай бұрын
Will my italien brother the people who conquer sicly are the native berbers light skin of North Africa most of them are Tunisian native berbers light skin nearby city's before the call of the arab leader aglabid dinsty to invade sicly and in did they invade it with majority light skin native berbers of Tunisia and Libya and even the conqueror and the founder of emarit of bari in Southern Italy is a native berber light skin leader even the hestorien ibn khaldon said scily was full of berbers families
@comosaycomosah
@comosaycomosah Ай бұрын
youre well read. very very rarely are these videos correct in comparison to the actual literary resources available to us. well done bro ive watched you many times but it really shined on this one
@metatronyt
@metatronyt Ай бұрын
I appreciate that thank you
@comosaycomosah
@comosaycomosah Ай бұрын
@@metatronyt absolutely dude! You do great work!
@robert48719
@robert48719 Ай бұрын
As a German I am really feeling hungry for a Mohrenkopf right now
@ibrahimihsan2090
@ibrahimihsan2090 Ай бұрын
Sweet.
@jonasw3945
@jonasw3945 Ай бұрын
13:35 Wrong, the majority is Berber not Arabs. You've made the mistake many times in the video, Arabs never made a majority of the demographic composition on North Africa let alone the Maghreb region. You should also keep in mind the historical nuance between an Arab and an a Muslim Arabic speaking person which many old historians didn't make which results in the wrong categorization of the people of the region as Arabs just because they speak a variant of Arabic while for them the Berbers were only those who didn't speak arabic which is obviously not correct.
@Galbaudix
@Galbaudix Ай бұрын
Yeah I've noticed that about him he always likes to arabize north Africa and contribute all the merits to Arabs and neglected numerous times the Berbers,one thing he did that also frustrated me was the flag of morocco which had a star of David (israeli star) there is no way he didn't notice that when he edited his video he purposely did that In conclusion I don't trust this channel anymore there are loads of times where he says dumb shit he doesn't even sound historian
@metatronyt
@metatronyt Ай бұрын
@@Galbaudix I don't trust someone who says: "he purposely did that ". Prove it. In front of a court of law. What a baseless accusation. Very disappointing. This was the result of my research and the research of a very highly respected historian and archaeologist. The information is legit. Of course feel free to disagree but since you use terms such as "he says dumb shit" then I can see you are probably just a hater. A shame. You are not trusting well researched truth. Also what's the problem with the flag I don't get it. This was not edited by me it was edited by one of my editors. Keep the emotions out of it. What is the problem with the flag?
@Vox_Popul1
@Vox_Popul1 Ай бұрын
@@Galbaudix the Star of David isn’t specifically Israeli, it’s supposed to represent the Seal of Solomon and was commonly used both by Muslims and Jews before it became the symbol of the Zionist movement after the creation of the modern state of Israel. The Pentagram Morocco uses now is another representation of the Seal of Solomon, which was chosen after the connotation of the Star of David changed. Idk why he would show the old flag of Morocco, but that’s what it looked like before so it’s not random.
@Galbaudix
@Galbaudix Ай бұрын
@@metatronyt yeah sure buddy first of all stop liking your own comment second of all I did prove it in my comment and I can still come up with more proofs and stop acting sensitive (in front of a court law) that was childish,this video is loaded with inaccurate and highly false claims to be provided from "highly respected and intellectual historians" I doubt they can make such bold claims + You know exactly what you did with the flag don't act dumb like common man lmao 🤣🤣 you speak like you don't review your videos before publishing them and tell your editors to remove such part of add such part In conclusion Keep your agendas for yourself
@Galbaudix
@Galbaudix Ай бұрын
@@Vox_Popul1 it did not look like that lmao it looks just like it looks like now,that's like speaking of Germany and showing the flag of France,just out of place,why didn't he just come out with a normal flag of morocco? Is it hard to just tap on Google "flag of morocco" download it and add it in your video or is it necessary to falsify it?? And the USA has more ties and connection with Jews so it's totally normal for me to add a star of David on the USA flag right? Nonsense
@Noah-dg3ng
@Noah-dg3ng Ай бұрын
When I think of moors, I usually think of Spain and the reconquista and its significance in History and the spread of Christianity in the western hemisphere particularly Catholicism thanks to Spain driving them out and establishing a unified Spain under Christianity, granted it was not a perfect or sympathetic process for some but and thier influence on the Spanish language with the Arabic language and led to the golden age of Spain with exploration and spread of Spanish culture and the becoming the first truly global empire throughout thier domains worldwide which traversed between two major oceans the Atlantic and pacific and not just along Africa and Southeast Asia like Portugal , which gave Spain the title and deservedly the first truly global empire and the start of globalization and beginnings of the Spanish empire which began from a chance discovery of the western hemisphere by an italian from the Genoa region of Italy under under the Spanish Catholic Kings. Spain became the envy of other European kingdoms together with thier Italian and netherland possessions through inheritance. Spain is Very interesting. ✝️🇪🇸🇵🇭✝️🇺🇸🇪🇸
@Arab-1995s
@Arab-1995s Ай бұрын
Hahaha, do you mean the Inquisition?
@Arab-1995s
@Arab-1995s Ай бұрын
Muslims are more tolerant than Christian Spaniards
@aae3967
@aae3967 Ай бұрын
The issue of the moors is similar to the germanic kingdoms in spain. The ruling elites were germanic while the majority of people were native hispanics... The moors elites were arabs(seyids and yemenis) while the majority of subjects were berebers , local hispanic muslims (mozarabs), and african blacks.
@joseanfigueroa8785
@joseanfigueroa8785 Ай бұрын
mozarabs = not arabs; refers to the latin speaking, christian population.
@WimBosma
@WimBosma Ай бұрын
Mozarabs were Christians, the Muladis was the name used for Iberian Muslims. Native Iberian Muslims usually lived in the outskirts of big cities like Cordoba and were relatively poor.
@Benito-lr8mz
@Benito-lr8mz Ай бұрын
African blacks lol is a very very minirity in Rome in Rome empire have many more for exemple.
@TtJi-pt2pr
@TtJi-pt2pr Ай бұрын
This is it. Most of Iberias population was Muslim Iberians, most of the military was Berbers and later they ruled as Al Moravids and Mohads, while the ruling class was of Arabs. Most of Andalusia's history is basically the conflict between the Yemenites and Qaisis.
@Ace-sb4il
@Ace-sb4il Ай бұрын
​@@TtJi-pt2pryou're wrong
@bewolfzr9969
@bewolfzr9969 Ай бұрын
The Africocentrist biting their fingers rn 😂😂😂😂😂
@margareta9081
@margareta9081 Ай бұрын
@@bewolfzr9969 😂🤣😭👏 Exactly!!
@Eliburgo
@Eliburgo Ай бұрын
Mali [IMAGE]The Moor of Mali inhabit a small kingdom in the upper reaches of the Niger River. They are nomadic Berbers who number over 300,000. The term "Moor" is generally applied to any person, regardless of skin color, who speaks one of the Hassaniya dialects. Therefore, there are both black and white Moors who speak the same language. Hassaniya, in its purest form, draws heavily from the original spoken Arabic. It is believed that the Moor probably emigrated from neighboring Mauritania into the Sahel region of Mali. The Sahel lies immediately south of the Sahara and stretches from the Atlantic Ocean to the Red Sea.
@Eliburgo
@Eliburgo Ай бұрын
Nah just you racist eurocentrics still fearing a black planet
@troyelam8978
@troyelam8978 Ай бұрын
@@bewolfzr9969 does it bother you that Black people were also in ancient Ireland? How much does that knowledge make you bite your fingers?
@Megaspinosaurusrex
@Megaspinosaurusrex Ай бұрын
​@@troyelam8978we don't about who was of which pigment and where. Stop trying to appropriate our history then call us invaders for being born here, plain and simple
@achraf2095
@achraf2095 Ай бұрын
Im a moor tho here in spain is used in a peyorative insulting manner, i prefer the term amazigh 😁
@Yorahme_unrío
@Yorahme_unrío Ай бұрын
Para los afroamericanos es un halago JAJAJJA
@achraf2095
@achraf2095 Ай бұрын
@@Yorahme_unrío a ver si les parecera tambien un alago que yo use la N word
@BugaAsasira
@BugaAsasira Ай бұрын
Thanks for your research, we can now build on it to answer a lot gaping holes in history.
@mrtrollnator123
@mrtrollnator123 Ай бұрын
ANOTHER BANGER 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
@joaobarroso2068
@joaobarroso2068 Ай бұрын
"That conquered spain" Spain did not exist, i think it is correct to call it either Hispania (roman province) or Iberia. Sorry, portuguese here getting triggered everytime someone calls iberia "spain". Keep up the good job!
@paprskomet
@paprskomet Ай бұрын
Metatron obviously mentions it as Spain just to simplify and make it easy to anyone to know what region is talked about.By the way-there was no province of Hispania.Hispania(without any additive names)was just a term Romans used for entire Iberian peninsula.
@brunobastos5533
@brunobastos5533 Ай бұрын
@@paprskomet simplify what Spain only came to be in VXI and Portugal borders date back 1297 and what was there beside us , Kingdom of Castile-Leon because no fucking Spain back then OK. NOT HISPANIA OR OTHER VARIATION just kingdoms
@brunobastos5533
@brunobastos5533 Ай бұрын
Fodasse moço vi metade do video e começou-me a tirar do sério
@jhallo1851
@jhallo1851 Ай бұрын
Earlier in the video he says "the iberian peninsula, which includes MODERN DAY SPAIN" Like we all know spain didn't exist and he even says that through implication. Jesus.
@casey203
@casey203 Ай бұрын
Also keep in mind that during that time period contemporary writers would not uncommonly refer to all the Christian kingdoms of the Iberian peninsula as using the catch all term “The Spains” which included modern day Portugal.
@atheistbushman
@atheistbushman Ай бұрын
In classical times North Africa was part of the Mediterranean world, thus culturally and ethnically closer to the Egyptian, Greek and Roman civilizations than sub-Saharan/black africa.
@klausroxin4437
@klausroxin4437 Ай бұрын
I agree. But try to explain that to a hotep, who thinks that Egypt was a black civilization.
@HuwiteMcCrackerson
@HuwiteMcCrackerson Ай бұрын
@@klausroxin4437 > Ignores the fact that there are people who believe Egyptians are YT LOL Egypt also was under rulership of “Kushitic” People for a period a time. So yeah…
@klausroxin4437
@klausroxin4437 Ай бұрын
@@HuwiteMcCrackerson The Kushites are referred to as the 25th dynasty in the sources, ruling almost 2,000 years after the Egyptian civilization was born. Do you really want to say that they make Egypt a black civilization? By that logic, Egypt was ruled by white Macedonians much longer than it was ruled by black Kushites and should be viewed as white. No, not really my opinion, just a "reductio ad absurdum" to your false claim that the Kushites would make Egypt a black civilization.
@HuwiteMcCrackerson
@HuwiteMcCrackerson Ай бұрын
@@klausroxin4437 Did you ignore my first statement? Ok, sorry I was playing 4d chess. The people who say Egyptians are white usually believe so, due to it being under Roman rulership, that’s why I brought that up, but you switched it on me, wow.
@atheistbushman
@atheistbushman Ай бұрын
@@HuwiteMcCrackerson You were playing 2d tic tac toe
@mohammadahmad932
@mohammadahmad932 Ай бұрын
Occupition and Evangelization campaigns by Britain and Estimated Casualties 1. India: 15-30 million 2. Pakistan: 2 million (related to partition violence) 3. Bangladesh: 1-3 million (especially during the Bengal Famine) 4. Sri Lanka: 1 million (estimated casualties during uprisings) 5. Myanmar (Burma): 300,000 6. Egypt: 1-2 million 7. Sudan: 1-3 million 8. South Africa: 3-5 million 9. Kenya: 300,000 10. Nigeria: 1-3 million 11. Ghana: 250,000 12. Uganda: 300,000 13. Tanzania: 300,000 14. Zambia: 50,000 15. Zimbabwe: 50,000 16. Malawi: 100,000 17. Sierra Leone: 100,000 18. The Gambia: 30,000 19. Botswana: 30,000 20. Lesotho: 20,000 21. Swaziland (Eswatini): 10,000 22. Australia: 750,000 23. New Zealand: 100,000 24. Canada: 150,000 25. United States: 1-3 million (during colonial conflicts) 26. Ireland: 1-2 million (Great Famine and conflicts) 27. Jamaica: 1-2 million (including deaths from slavery) 28. Barbados: 100,000 (due to slave trade and revolts) 29. Trinidad and Tobago: 50,000 30. The Bahamas: 5,000 31. Malta: 10,000 32. Cyprus: 20,000 33. Malaysia: 100,000 34. Singapore: 100,000 35. Hong Kong: 10,000 36. Palestine: 100,000 (casualties during ethnic cleansing) 37. Iraq: 100,000-200,000 38. Jordan: 10,000 39. Kuwait: 10,000 40. Oman: 10,000 41. Yemen (Aden): 10,000 42. Fiji: 10,000 43. Belize (formerly British Honduras): 5,000 44. Guyana: 50,000 45. Mauritius: 20,000 46. Maldives: 1,000 47. Brunei: 5,000 48. Qatar: 5,000 49. Bahrain: 5,000 Total Estimated Casualties: ~100 million
@Tim_the_Enchanter
@Tim_the_Enchanter Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it' "Moops."
@DarkAnarchy666
@DarkAnarchy666 Ай бұрын
Just a correction Metatron, Mauros, "Μαύρος", in Greek doesn't mean dark. It means Black. Dark is Skoteinos/Σκοτεινός.
@MrAdmitos
@MrAdmitos Ай бұрын
In ancient greek the meaning was dark/without light, μαύρος/αμαυρός. The meaning black added through hellenistic greek and on.
@DarkAnarchy666
@DarkAnarchy666 Ай бұрын
@@MrAdmitos I thought that might be the case but didn't look it up. Thanks for the info
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 Ай бұрын
Ancient Greeks refer themeslves as Mavros
@michaelpierce3264
@michaelpierce3264 Ай бұрын
the majority of moors n Iberia were Iberian converts!
@mypiebecamepizza9503
@mypiebecamepizza9503 Ай бұрын
They should have stayed in Iberia
@MarokoJin
@MarokoJin Ай бұрын
@@mypiebecamepizza9503 they were kicked out by the Catholics.
@groundzero5708
@groundzero5708 Ай бұрын
Moors should have stayed in africa
@TheProBlackConservative
@TheProBlackConservative 17 күн бұрын
I'd love to see a Metatron and The King's Monologue Podcast. 💯💥 In a "Perfect World" you 2 could break down history from many sources to finally reach a definitive conclusion based in facts and truth on much of history. It could be much more productive too.
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