Mexico's Flagship Business Class to JFK!

[@Amtran727]

Patrick, thanks for the peek and shout out at the 727s, my favorite plane as you can tell by my screen name:) A classic aircraft.

[@perryelyod4870]

For a fun adventure, book a flight to La Paz, departing from the Mexico City airport.

[@263Leo]

I’m ok with the meal at the start. It allows you to plan and you can then sleep without missing the meal. Now on demand would be even better so people could pick what will work best for them. (Shout out to QR on this).

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I totally agree. Qatar has it nailed on that front

[@johniii8147]

It's not a long haul premium route to offer such service.

[@michaelgordon8763]

Thanks Patrick...another excellent video. My preference for flights 4 - 5 hours long leaving mid-morning would be to have a beverage service with something modest to eat and then lunch half way through the flight with wine. Afternoon to evening departures I'd rather the airline stick to the timing they generally do now. By the way, it looks like I and another commenter found the 'nicer' lounge at the Terminal. I really liked hanging out in the MEX AM lounge. I flew Aeromexico from MEX to PVR and tho' a relatively short flight they served us a very nice lunch and a generous beverage service. I'd fly AM again...Cheers 🙂

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I totally agree. That sounds like a much better setup of food servings. Unfortunately most airlines don’t have it setup that way. Good to know about the other lounge as well

[@Colorado_Ronin]

I’m curious as to your profession to allow you to take all of these business class flights. Good video though, better than most reviewers

[@oldporkchops]

He's a pilot 😊

[@Colorado_Ronin]

@@oldporkchops I see. I figured he’d fly on a ZED fare if that was the case

[@oldporkchops]

@@Colorado_Ronin How can I get a ZED fare?

[@Colorado_Ronin]

@@oldporkchops it’s offered to airline employees. You fly standby on any airline and only pay the taxes of the ticket. So you could get business class international for a few hundred dollars

[@oldporkchops]

@@Colorado_Ronin Thanks for the info. It is a pity that only airline employees can buy these fares.

[@NickEaster-wj2bi]

Another great trip report! Content like this makes Sunday morning something to look forward to!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks man! I appreciate it

[@guadalupeescamilla7803]

@@PatrickSheaAviationVIVA MEXICO 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽

[@alaskafan21]

I like the fact that you narrate what is happen. On some other channels the silence is deafening. Look forward to you next adventure.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks man!

[@Sydorrah]

They should do a beverage/refreshments service first then the combo a couple hours after.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Totally agree

[@jimmyjames6492]

Thanks for the info + video!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks!

[@fxrce3585]

THERE IS NO WAY YOU HAD A 13L LANDING RIGHT BASE INTO JFK YOU ARE SO LUCKY!!!! I have flown into JFK's hundreds of times and only once have I had a 13L landing. You are so lucky

[@kevin19358]

8:09, Oh nice they have a window inside the lavatory. Almost 2 and a half years ago in May 2021, I flew Delta, Airbus A220-100 from San Francisco to Salt Lake city and they have window inside the lavatory, which is good, I love it and my favorite and the flight is good. I wish all airlines and fleets have window inside the lavatory.

[@johniii8147]

So you can pee looking out the window. Classy.

[@stevene465]

Very ordinary- great review Patrick as always

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks!

[@YYZatcboy]

You should use the other Salon Premier on the other side of the second level. Much nicer with two stories of space and also you can order hot food like Chilaquiles that they will bring right to your seat.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

That’s great to know for next time!

[@Akshay_Rajbongshi_]

Nice i love ❤️ tour 😍 ❤️ 💕 💖

[@jtinsfo]

A candid overall assessment :) MEX T2 is a mess of a terminal, but the AM onboard product and their business fares really are hard to beat. Thanks Patrick.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Totally! I do hope to try their 787-9s as well as their transatlantic routes as well to get a look at their most premium product

[@christopherbranski1720]

T2? I’ve got bad news about T1 at MEX

[@clsxx9]

Awesome video as always Patrick!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks!

[@papi8659]

Thats not their flagship business,thats their regional business product for the Americas. Their flagship business is the 787-900 new business class on flights to Madrid and other European cities...

[@Jglendab8153]

Thanks 🙏🏽 for sharing

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks!

[@mohammadislam2652]

I like your videos Flight report

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks man!

[@hanj31]

hopefully they upgrade the seats soon.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Maybe. The 787-9s in their fleet are updated so who knows

[@EpicThe112]

Excellent trip here Patrick and here's the problem with Mexico City Juarez airport it's the elevation which is why their Transpacific flights need a stop San Diego/Tijuana on some days. For AM cross border flights the busier routes should be using B787-8/-9s otherwise crowded B737s. 2-2-2 direct aisle business class does exist it's the Apex suites made by B/E Aerospace nowadays Rockwell Collins original manufacturer of the B-1 Lancer bomber when they were called Rockwell International corporation. Apex suites from SFO are on Japan Airlines B787-8/B787-9s if fitted and Korean Air B777-3B5/ER later ones

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

As of this moment their transpacific flights are all direct from Mexico City so that is great to see. I do prefer AM’s 787-9s as they have all seats with direct aisle access. I’m hoping to try it out soon

[@marcoschavez1028]

Salon Premier has significantly deteriorated since the pandemic. A much better lounge in T2 in Mexico City is the Centurion Lounge. It can be very busy, but a completely different league.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Good to know!

[@nisookh]

Great video as always .. prefer the meal mid flight if it’s going to be one meal . For a guy who rat every few hours I may have a meal on board to supplement this or eaten one just prior to boarding too . 😊 excellent review

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Totally agree! Thanks!

[@shamsqasr6173]

Excelent video! 👏🏻👏🏻 I've flown AM before and I've always found them way too expensive and service way too cheap. Mexicana was much much better (but I don't know how it's gonna turn out under the new NG admon). Domestically, I'd rather fly Viva, as Volaris has become un-lowcost now, haha... My vote is for midflight serving. IMO, it always kills time (and also makes you feel the sense of time) during long flights. Video obs: As another viewer pointed out, the soundtrack of Colombian cumbias... WHY???? 😖😖 As a northerner/west-coaster Mexican I cringed. Mariachi was not a bad choice, hehehe! Other than that, great reviews, new fan here! 😁

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks. Sounds like there are some mixed opinions on the Mexicans revival. Viva is intriguing but only recently announced their first Bay Area route from Oakland to Monterrey (I think….)

[@kevin19358]

6:56, I think all Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner, including Jetstar which I flew last May and August from Honolulu to Sydney round trip for 400 US Dollars and they have the air vents, which is good to cool off the cabin and it's comfortable. I think almost all Boeing 787-9 and 10 Dreamliner don't have the air vents like on the Airbus A350.

[@johniii8147]

It's a carrier choice if they have them are not. All UA's 787s have them for example and some 350s do not on other carriers. They choose the interiors.

[@kevin19358]

I see.

[@samhu5878]

The one thing special for Aeromexico in my experience is the amount of alcohol they offer to people. I had a flight where one my neighbors ordered 5 shots of vodka and a coke for their drink. The flight attendant didn’t even blink and served it to him. I was personally a little bit worried that the dude would end up throwing up next to me.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

It’s a party man!

[@tiklemeangi]

I need to fly from PVR to JFK and this connection from MEX to JFK seems to be the only one! Do you think its worth it getting this on points? I will need to do my makeup on the plane for a wedding right when I land lol.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

If it’s the 787-9 then absolutely. You have far more space on that airplane. The 787-8 might be worth it unless you can do it in the normal lavatory

[@Bacchusmbt]

Interesting music choice, it sounds like music I hear in Panama. What is the group playing?

[@tally1604]

I wonder how they can compete with Latam on the South Aemerican routes with this hard and soft product? And with JetBlue also flying to NYC, who in their right mind would chose this?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Well I will say that most people seem to flying strictly between Mexico and New York, not from South America as much. So I don’t see that as direct competition, but I do agree that LATAM’s 767 and 777 business class is much better. AM’s 787-9 has a 1-2-1 setup at least

[@tally1604]

@PatrickSheaAviation if you can chose JetBlue or AeroMexico on the NYC to Mexico DF route, what would you chose? And likewise, from Mexico DF to Sao Paolo, would rather fly this or LATAM?

[@patrickpick3091]

Breakfast flights are always the cheapest and rushed meals for any airline. I'de be interested to see the lunch or dinner meal options on the return leg? I'm sure delta doesn't offer anything better on the route. They tend to follow each others offerings on all routes. You have fantastic reviews Patrick. Am a devoted follower.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks man! And I totally agree, lunches are better, but dinners are typically where I feel each airline thrives

[@JeanClaudeCOCO]

Someone finally did a flight review of AeroMexico. The flight is standard when compare to the region. The lounge however is disappointing. The seating and food option could be much better. Breakfast is such a hard thing to get right for any airline and AeroMexico is no exception. I would love to see a review during lunch time or early evening as their transatlantic peak begins. Is the lounge any better or worse? Over crowded, or upgraded food? For one thing the space feels claustrophobic and it could use some TLC, in seating, lighting, and connectivity.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Totally. I do plan on trying it out again on one of their trans-oceanic flights and hopefully I’ll get a better idea for the lounge at other times of the day

[@dustinbeaudoin9014]

@patricksheaaviation what seat number is this?

[@dianeschroeder3980]

Hi Patrick, yes that is the original seats and how the 787 was delivered to Aeromexico. It’s definitely not their best product. As with most airlines on a four hour flight, they want to get you served and the service over with immediately so the flight attendants can sit down for the rest of the flight. You would’ve found better service in the 1960s, 70s or 80s. Nice review ❤️✈️

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Totally. Thanks!

[@stefanjordan4770]

Do they serve. Mezcal ? And tequila?

[@VaibhavShete1981]

Will like to see your review of asian Carriers

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I’ve got some plans to go try some more of them out. US to China is finally returning to pre-pandemic levels slowly

[@madtownbbbear]

9.975

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I’ll take it, ha! Thanks!

[@stevemendel275]

I think the timing of the meal should be a consistent practice and a lot of flights serve a meal right away. So people may plan on that. A pre-landing snack should be offered.

[@johniii8147]

Not on such a relatively short flight. This is NOT long haul.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I agree. A little snack before landing goes a long way and it doesn’t have to be anything too craxy

[@rudolfpunt3286]

Perfect time for a meal depends when you depart for me.

[@johniii8147]

It's not the type of flight you get your prefered meal time. It's not dine on demand.

[@rudolfpunt3286]

@@johniii8147 I only fly business class, so no it’s not dine on demand. My point was, if I leave at breakfast time I want to eat right away, if I leave mid morning, give me time I most likely have already had something to eat. Etc

[@johniii8147]

@@rudolfpunt3286 If you travel enough, you learn the schedule and adjust accordingly if want to eat on the plane. On such a short route the meal is pretty unimportant to me. It only becomes revelenet on true long haul flights.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I would like to see a better timing of meals based on departure time. It could also go a long way towards helping with jet lag on the longer flights. On the shorter flights though, they often just want to get it all taken care of and out of the way since there’s less time to perform their duties however

[@johniii8147]

@@PatrickSheaAviation That's the thing. We are talking about a day time flight of 4 hours. Not a big deal. This isn't a market where they will worry about meal times. Get it over with. The most unfortunate part actually is the 3rd world lounge. Not much to eat there but to be expected. I'm more curious about the current hotel. Haven't stayed there in on oh maybe 10 years now.

[@maybe.julius]

Is the new Hawaiian 787 in your plans for next year? SFO - HNL?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I’ll be there!

[@juanjotm4821]

Is the plane landing at JFK´s airport or La Guardia. ?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

JFK. LaGuardia’s only international arrivals are from pre-clearance destinations like Canada I believe at this time

[@jhecht424]

How was your climb out of Mexico City? Was it bumpy? My experience with high altitude airports has been that takeoffs are generally turbulent. I’m just curious.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

It wasn’t too bad actually. I know what you mean, but MEX hasn’t been that turbulent in my experience at least

[@christianeduardo1]

Great video! Just think to adapt the music a bit better with the video, it was unnerving and sounded more Colombian than Mexican 😊

[@shamsqasr6173]

Exactly!!! So distracting! I would expect this from a review about Avianca 😂 There are far more Mexican musical genres to use... I mean, even cliched Mariachi songs would have been better!

[@jcbaily5559]

An airline that feels it must control my window tinting does not deserve my business. A light sandwich snack prior to arrival would have been nice and maybe served with a small dessert! I remember years ago I was on a flight between Den and Sea late evening and after drinks were served, they came around with apple pie and ice cream for a snack! Airlines nowadays just don't use their imagination when serving food! Another example was a 45 minute flight I took in Alaska and after drink service they came around with a tray of quarter size variety of sandwich's, that you could select, cherry tomatoes and a small package of cheese and the flight was almost full so these stories you hear about not having enough time to serve a meal is a bunch of hogwash as the flight attendants are too lazy! Thanks!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I do think that a bit more creativity would benefit meal services. There are definitely a fair share of bland meals that are only served to satisfy the requirement to feed passengers with no feel of pride in the food

[@Imfirsttocomment]

Terrible music choice but everything was good

[@KareysiRuiz]

You are so cute.🥰

[@peterrisbergs7156]

What kind of lounge is that? No tortillas, no guacamole, no cerveza. Unacceptable.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I do feel like they could have done more with the food for sure. Mexico has some of the world’s best food and there’s not really any of it here

[@pacmanc8103]

14:05 “Tasteful” and “tasty” are not synonymous. “Tasteful” is used to describe something that has taste (e.g., a tastefully decorated room) and “tasty” is used to describe something appetizing or with a good flavor.

[@ChuckConnNYC]

lol mex - jfk isn’t one of their premium routes?

[@OnThaMove]

That’s exactly what I thought.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

It’s definitely one of their most profitable but it’s nothing like their trans-oceanic routes. Those have a completely higher level of service and everything

[@tiklemeangi]

@@PatrickSheaAviationdo you think its worth 50k amex points? Or should i just stick to economy for 24k? ill need to do my makeup on the flight so wondering if the extra space will be helpful. I do tend to like to save my points for transatlantic flights if I can though. Amex has a transfer bonus right now so its 50k otherwise its 80k points.

[@tiklemeangi]

Oh actually its on their 737 so maybe not worth it? Would appreciate your insights im new to this lol

[@jascha1188]

Dirty shoes again?!🤣

[@johniii8147]

LOL. I've given him grief on that before. I do more so leaving his passport laying around to lose.

[@paulkazzer]

I enjoy your videos. To save time have you considered limiting the non stop narration. Telling us “this is a foldout table” or this is “ mango yoghurt” is probably unnecessary. You could limit the narration to pertinent points to avoid listener overload. Many thanks.

[@ianhamilton396]

A nice review but of course alot underwhelming.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I agree, but it is standard for this type of route. I am curious about their trans-oceanic routes though

[@pacmanc8103]

It’s odd that the reviewer comments on the lack of amenity kits and lie-flat seats on a flight that is less than 4 hours long. It’s one thing to ‘critique’ a product; it’s another to nitpick, IMO. The competitors to the US market don’t, do they?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Must have missed the parts where I said it was normal for these routes and markets…

[@VicTheflyingDentist]

Nice video. I think most of the Continental American carriers are stingy and provide the bare minimum service and amenities as compared to the Middle Eastern carriers.

[@johniii8147]

Different market and middle east carriers' mission is completely different. They are fully goverment owned and funded and exist to promote the country.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

^what that guy said. It’s a much different market. It is also tougher because of the sheer size of North American aviation markets

[@krishnakaushik6234]

FIRST

[@lpm6114]

really lousy business class ... seats and food....

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I agree it could definitely be improved upon, but it is fairly standard for this route

[@user-vs2ey1yg1h]

I wish people posting videos in Business Class would not wear shorts and dirty tennis shoes. Where's the class?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Nah man people can wear whatever they want man. No need to be judging people’s outfits

[@hotelgulf]

Sounds very underwhelming.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

It kinda depends on what your comparing it to. I think if you’re comparing it to domestic US routes or the typical Mexico to US routes, then it is par for the course

[@vipulrohitshah4945]

Seen most of your videos I advice to you pls change your shoes most videos have same shoes as you display it..thanks

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I’ve only got one pair of shoes…. But maybe I’ll go out and get another pair for the videos

[@artnarez6105]

My goodness you complain way too much.

[@bodyloverz30]

Babe's he is giving a "critique."

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Lol welcome to “travel vlogging”. You must have missed the positive notes or full on positive videos I’ve got up