MHMD [16] Jews & Christians had their Muhammads, but not the Muslims!

We now come to a particularly interesting episode where we look at the 7th century to see exactly what was happening in that century with the Jews in particular, and especially with this title 'MHMD'.
According to A.J. Deuss, who has done the best work in this area, looking at the evidence from the 7th century it is clear that the Jews considered their Exilarchs (leaders of Judaism in the diaspora, located primarily in what is today Iraq) as 'Messiahs', and even referred to them in Arabic (since that was the language used in Iraq then) as MHMD.
When we look specifically at the successors of Mar Zutra, we find that they are a whole chain of the coming 'Messiah', and thus were known as MHMD.
David C. Mitchell, in his book "Messiah ben Joseph" mentions that all of these Exilarchs in the 7th century were considered by the Jews as Messiahs (Mahmads), but that they were waiting not just for one Messiah, as the Christians were, but two Messiahs, the first who would be a suffering servant, and be called "the Messiah ben Joseph", and the second who would be a conquering king, and known as the "Messiah ben David".
Interestingly, the Qur'an seems to refer to these 2 Messiahs in Surah 61:6, where it says: "And when Isa son of Maryam said: O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah to you, confirming the Taurat before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad".
Later Muslim exegesis assumed that this was referring to Jesus and Muhammad, when in reality it was referring to these two Messiahs prophesied in the Old Testament (See Isaiah 53), and to be fulfilled with the Messiah Joseph and Messiah David.
There are 4 Jewish Sources which refer to these Exilarchs as Messiahs:
1) Between 614-638 AD: The Midrash, Otot ha-mashiah (or 'the Signs of the Messiah') stated that the "Messiah ben Joseph will appear, and his name is Nehemiah ben Hushiel, and with him the tribe of Ephraim, Manasseh and Benjamin, and some of the sons of Gad".
The Exilarch Nehemiah ben Hushiel began his reign in 614 AD, and was killed in 617 AD, and was referred to as the Messiah ben Joseph (i.e. the MHMD), the suffering Messiah.
2) 617-648 AD: The Asereth Otot, Midrash of the 'Ten Signs' was written, where it says "The Holy One, blessed be he, will produce at that time Messiah ben Joseph, whose name is Nehemiah ben Husheil", supporting the earlier writing.
3) 654 AD: In the Pirqei Hekhalot Rabbati (or the "Great Palaces") it suggests that the Messiah ben David (the 2nd and victorious Messiah) would appear 40 years after Nehemiah ben Hushiel, who became governor of Jerusalem in 614 AD, so that would be around 654 AD, which was during the reign of the Exilarch Bostanai, suggesting that he would be the Messiah ben David (MHMD #.2).
4) The Book of Zerubbabel, written by the king Zerubbabel, Nehemiah ben Shealtiel in 516 BC, who built the 2nd temple following the return of the Jews from the Babylonian exile, prophesied that someone from his line would built the 3rd temple. So, he was the ancestor of the Exilarch-Governor Nehemiah ben Hushiel.
Mitchell says that "the statement that Israel's salvation will come after 990 years (from the founding of the 2nd temple) suggests that this deliverance would be around 638 AD.
So, the Jews assumed ben Hushiel would build the 3rd temple. But Umar conquered Jerusalem in 638 AD and built a structure on Mt. Moriah instead.
So, it seems that in the 7th century, the Jews believed Nehemiah ben Hushiel (their Messiah ben Joseph) would be their Messiah, but he only lasted 4 years. Thus, his brother Shallum (also known as Salman Farsi, or according to Al Tabari, even Salman al-Farisi = a Pharisee?) was considered the Messiah ben David, but he was a squib, so that title was then given to other Exilarchs after him.
The Conclusion: So in the 7th century, the Jews are waiting for their Messiah to come, and have given that title to their Exilarchs who were primarily located in the area of Baghdad, so that would have all spoken Arabic, and would have been referred to as MHMD (the Messiah).
At the same time the Christians also were waiting for the return of their Messiah, Jesus Christ, and so referred to him likewise as the "Praised One", the MHMD, putting his name on their coins.
It seems that both the Jews and the Christians were vying with each other to have their own Messiahs. Can you now understand why the later 8th century Muslims, who didn't have any prohetic line would like to fulfill what the Jews and the Christians were waiting for, the final Messiah, or the final MHMD?
© Pfander Centre for Apologetics & Polemics - US, 2024
(105,540) Music: 'Country Girl' by aleksound, from filmmusic-io

[@mo_51_married_aisha_6]

This is another example of how history and archeology confirm that little to nothing originated in Islam or in the Quran. Even the name of their "prophet and best example" came before Islam.

[@hufun3789]

How did you know...that just Jay smith and his Fadi and Christians haters assumpstions. I also can used same example such as name Jesus and Christians religion Not real things and never found in early Christians belief it was adobted much later

[@AlonzoHarris235]

@@hufun3789 You can’t be a Christian without double standards.

[@hufun3789]

@@AlonzoHarris235 Cannot agree more

[@gb3007]

@@AlonzoHarris235 do unto others as you would have done to you, unfortunately a concept Islam misses the mark on but surprisingly means the same thing no matter which language it’s translated into, incorruptible message you might say. Unlike the Koran which is supposed to be only understood in Arabic despite being nearly a quarter gibberish which suddenly becomes clear in Aramaic 😮. It’s no wonder you cannot see truth even when slapped in the face with it.

[@tommyrotton9468]

I think the "prophet and best example" was the lie to demand believe it or die by the sword.

[@simonhengle8316]

Excellent research Mel and thank you Jay for using your platform for this information from Mel

[@timmer710]

Dr Jay is really full of knowledge. Old school intellectual.

[@karensaxon5846]

This is such a good series. Thank you both for sharing your and others’ research on this topic. David C. Mitchell did a few expository interviews about this subject of Messiah Ben Joseph on the Christian podcast available on this platform, ONE FOR ISRAEL, FYI. I think it’s a 3-part series, Messiah Son of Joseph-Case for Messiah. Episodes 13-15.

[@mysotiras21]

Very important info. I have long though that the Arabs invented Muhammad and Islam out of sheer jealousy. After all, the Jews had been designated the Chosen People, given many prophets and an impressive scripture. The Christians had their Messiah, along with a scripture (the New Testament). Arabs felt as though God had simply ignored them. Their solution was to claim all the previous prophets, including Jesus the Messiah, while inventing their own super-prophet and last, best scripture. A very childish game of one-upmanship that is too wonky and patently false to convince intelligent, educated adults, but would certainly appeal to undereducated, gullible Arabs hungry for status. These historical data from the 7th-8th centuries merely reinforce my belief that jealousy was the prime impetus for the creation of Islam. Thanks.

[@SI00000]

The Arabs/Muslims were not left out. Are you forgetting the promise of a great nation and of 12 princes from the line of Ishmael? In Islam there are to be 12 rulers after Muhammad. There are hadith from Muhammad where he named the 12 Imams who were to be guides from his descendants the last of whom is the awaited Mahdi who will return alongside Jesus the Messiah. One simple way to know who is of God and who is of Satan is to see who bears the fruits of God's teachings. As Jesus said, by their fruits you shall know them. Satanism and all things demonic are not emanating from the Muslim world but from the once Christian West. Churches in the West are turning to Satan where near naked men dance before children and priests perform same sex marriages while Churches in the Muslim world perform Godly unions of man and woman. Pornography, promiscuous lifestyles, the pedo file age end are being pushed on children in the West but not in the Muslim world. No soda mite or pedo file would dare push any such thing in the Muslim world which is why the Muslim world is about the only safe nurturing Godly environment where a child can grow up free from confusion into a healthy God fearing productive member of society. When Jesus returns it will not be to any Western churches where many don't even know how to say his name, but to a Mosque where his teachings are preserved and where the people pray speak and act like him.

[@karakarachu]

​@@SI00000No satanism in Islam? Slavery(old and modern), slave castration, female genital mutilation, pedophilia(marriage and sex permissible even at age 5 as long as they menstruated), misogyny, prostitution but calls it temporary marriage, killing infidels(beheading, mutilation, burning), prostitution of captives, forced conversion, lying of many kinds as permitted by shariah, active conquest, tyranny, etc.

[@theelizabethan1]

Plenty of the offenses you mention thrive in the Islamic world! Contemporary examples exhibit Islamic immoral obsession: the dancing boys of Afghanistan, the 15-minute "marriages," covert prostitution as currently trafficked in the Emirates, rape of captured Israeli soldiers.....not to mention the polygamy. Jesus specifically warned re: false proclaimers who would come after him .... exhorted not to seek for ANYONE else.

[@justinboaldin4852]

Yes I need more on the two messiah

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Mel is our Historical Hammer!🙏🙏🙏

[@yahayadaudu3992]

Well done Jay & Mel for making improvements in our knowledge base. Now we know who Mohammad (the praised one) is.

[@garybowings1538]

"Alonzo Harris" believes in three gods.

[@michaelsamuel9917]

And Harry Potter is more real than Mohammed?

[@cahayakebenaran8746]

THE SON OF GOD EQUALS TO THE FATHER IN SUBSTANCE: . 20 "Lo, I am sending a Messenger before thee to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee in unto the place which I have prepared; 21 be watchful because of His presence, and hearken to His voice, rebel not against Him, for He beareth not with your transgression, for My name (YAHWEH) is in HIM (JESUS is also known as YAHWEH, fully God, equals to the FATHER); 22 for, if thou diligently hearken to His voice, and hast done all that which I speak, then I have been at enmity with thine enemies, and have distressed those distressing thee. 23 `For My messenger goeth before thee, and hath brought thee in unto the Amorite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Canaanite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite , and I have cut them off." . Exodus 3:2 (RNKJV) "And the angel of YHVH (JESUS CHRIST PRE- INCARNATE) appeared unto Moses in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed." --------

[@borneandayak6725]

allah, kaaba and hajar aswad. They bow down these three gods 5 times a day 😁😁😁

[@commentfreely5443]

flying spaghetti monster is 1 god so is true not like the rock licking religion of islam and each chapter of the quran is a god influencing your final judgement

[@sgt.grinch3299]

He won’t respond, his tongue is stuck on the black stones.

[@sgt.grinch3299]

How deep is this rabbit hole? Mel has taken us on a long journey with many different twists and turns.

[@dmacnet]

I believe I heard Mel say (and Jay repeat) a humorously wrong version of an idiom in this show. The phrase "damp squib" means a firework that doesn't go off properly because it's wet. Something anticlimactic. But people who don't know what a squib is can hear it as "damp squid," which doesn't make sense.

[@IslamicOrigins]

I usually think the word was squid, thanks for correcting that. That makes more sense.

[@nevetsM5CS]

Thank you both.

[@joelt905]

Hey Dr Jay, did you ever make a video on Elagabalus?

[@voiceofreason9258]

@PfanderFilms - Can you get Tom Holland to make a full documentary about the origin of Islam from your discovered materials?

[@channelone3773G]

At least you have agreed that you have been waiting for Machamadim

[@bonjih]

Love the snappy music at the end.. who composed it?

[@seanmacsweeney2985]

Would like to hear more about changes by the Ottomans to the SIN when they seize Baghdad

[@Jesus_9065]

Great 👍

[@channelone3773G]

The New Testament jesus" in the Light of Old Testament is an impostor.... The Book of Revelations is Based on an Anonymous Person's Dream, And in His Dream He saw (A Polycephaly) Multiple Heads Animal with Horns in and Horns out, Most probably that Dream occurred because of His excessive Eating 🍖🥩🥓🌭 and Drinking 🍺🍷🍾🍻🍸 .. How could christians Rely on such a Dream ?????

[@tommyrotton9468]

I believe the headline has described how the prophet Mhnd came about. The Arabs simply didn't have one, but they had all the material written after 200AD to make a small book for the Imam to wave about as authority. So they seem to have just looked at what an Arab warlord/leader was like, add the Jesus Christ model, realised the man of the story was psychopathic schizophrenic, so 1 came up with the Mecca (before) Medina (after) eras then 2 abrogation to remove the critics of contradictions of what the man said And it took hundreds of years after the fact, and it being set in a land nobody went to as to keep the secret of the lies.

[@EeustaceE]

In surah 61:6 - (and bringing good tidings) was added later. Its supposed to be... the Torah but when he came...

[@SEnricoPIndiogine]

Yes, that is correct. The Ahmad clause is an interpolation.

[@Maria-sb1xu]

Lets find the true history of islam🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@margahe9157]

It is sooooo interesting! We all have to learn history new! - I wonder, how nowadays Jews deal with their Messiah problem. I have heard that there are ideas to build a 3. Temple. I have heard, that they have made already most of the needed furniture for the Temple. There are Christians who think they should help them to achieve that goal. I don't think so! Sorry, I know, I'm jumping ahead.

[@cascarrabias397]

Nice.

[@yidiandianpang]

For someone jumping in to this video with no previous context, this is utterly insane.

[@mysotiras21]

How so?

[@yidiandianpang]

@@mysotiras21 Tell A Muslim that Mhd refers to Messiah, Jesus, Jewish exilarches and I they will probably think you are insane. But it may actually be true!

[@mysotiras21]

@@yidiandianpang , yep. The more historical data we discover pertaining to the use of "MHD", the more likely that seems.

[@yahooarchie8306]

Which explains why the arab world refuses to let archeological digs happen. Also why rich arabs are buying up these old coins to cover it up. Its all based on lies.

[@davidmcintosh3468]

This is SUPER interesting history! I wonder if everytime the jews "created" a new false messiah, there was a new "revelation" and a new cult started... And for everyone out there, who missed the real Messiah the Lord God Jesus Christ (or the "second Lord" that King David wrote about in the psalms): read Matthew 16 May God richly bless you all!

[@petergrimshaw492]

How extremely interesting. An Arabian Messiah to compete with and outshine Jewish and Christian Mahomets.

[@loulasher]

Damp squid? I guess we watch a lot of The I.T. Crowd.

[@RoninofRamen]

Sounded more like damp "squit" than squid. Both examples of distortion due to squib not being in common parlance in parts of the anglosphere.

[@Jakiahtul.Mushrefa-le7sg]

I don't know what they're talking about their Mohammad but in Islam Muslim NEVER WORSHIP prophet Muhammad saw period.

[@user-so4mf9ln9d]

The Prophet, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, sent a letter to Caesar, King of the Romans, inviting him to Islam, and it included the Almighty’s saying in quran: “Say, ‘O People of the Book, come to a common word between us and you: that we worship none but Allah, and that we do not associate with Him Yes, and let us not take others as lords besides God, for if Turn away and say, “Bear witness that we are Muslims.” (Al Imran: 64)

[@user-so4mf9ln9d]

God has told us about the unbelievers that they are too arrogant to follow the Qur’an And God Almighty said: “And among the people is he who disputes about God without knowledge or guidance or an enlightening Book He will taste on the Day of Resurrection the torment of burning.” [Al-Hajj: 8, 9].

[@shlomobenmichael7101]

Volker Popp raises the question where the term 'Arab' comes from. He explains that this was an area West of Mesopotamia that Khorow conquered and in good Persian tradition relocated the Syriac Christians from the 'Arab' into pocket communities in Persia. There they have been called 'Arabs' because they were from the Arab. That would give an idea, how the ''Arabs' would celebrate their freedom from Persia, even if the Mhmds were actually Persians, but would bring the Arabs (Syriac Christians in Persia) back to their homeland West of Persia free from Khosrow. Would you have some similar findings or any comments on that in your next show?

[@paul_321]

Have you gone over Mohammed’s letter to Herculius ?

[@mozi4305]

Nabiyyee Eliyaaa Seeen , Nabiyyee Eliyaaa saaa , Nabiyyee Elijah , and Jesus , ( Issua"AAA = The Issua )

[@user-so4mf9ln9d]

Allah Almighty said in the Qur’an: “And the Jews said, ‘The Christians are not based on anything.’ And the Christians said, ‘The Jews are not based on anything.’ And they recite the Scripture. Thus say those who do not understand “Limon is like their saying, for God will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that over which they differed.”

[@maxschon7709]

I watched AP with a nice Jews Guy and He asked him the question :Why to the Jews Worship Erza? And the jewish Guy Had No Idea what He meant because Had No knowledge that the Quran says so. But with that facto of Mel it Made sende: If the Exilarchs were Seen as Messias , Ersa would have been the greatest of them.

[@venonparni]

Do you expect Arabs to require a prophet from a different part of the world who spoke a strange language they didn't understand? Any people especially in the past, needed a prophet from their own culture, speaking their own language. It's quite normal.

[@mozi4305]

Mh-maaad , Mh-sin , Mh-Sinai , Yaaa seeeen , Eli-yaaa Seeeen , Elijah ,

[@OttoNomicus]

One obviously weird thing is that in the Quran the God of Israel has a bizarre obsession with people ascribing partners to him. Did he ever say anything about that anywhere in the Torah? No, he was only concerned about people having other gods instead of him entirely, not partners with him. Not one person in the Bible ever had the idea to worship YHWH and a partner. In the New Testament they did, yeah, no question, then it was God and God Jr, plus the Holy Ghost, he had two equal partners. Where did the "Holy Ghost" idea come from? Probably Enlil. "The Sumerian word "líl", whose Akkadian equivalent is zaqīqu, means "ghost, phantom, haunted""

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Hi.I read that Holy Spirit was labelled Holy Ghost a few hundred years ago. The New Testament is about getting understanding of The Father in a different way and using Jesus as advocate. Ps.I kind of understand that God is Spirit,Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost are all the same substance,and the Holy Ghost part could potentially actually be Mary.

[@truethinker10]

​@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 wrong, Holy Spirit is not Mary. Read Acts 2.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

@@truethinker10 . Not Holy Spirit is Mary.Holy Spirit could be a mix of Jesus and Mary. Holy Ghost which is understood as Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost could be fully Mary and not having the same facet as Holy Spirit. I will read ACTS verse u put up.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

@@truethinker10 I understand that their is,God is Spirit,Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost. I had experience with all three,and I class each as uncreated due to same substance eg God is Spirit.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

@@truethinker10 . Do you know what a classic hymn is? Psalms 98 Glory to the Father,and to the Son,And to the Holy Spirit,As it was in the beginning is now,And shall be for ever.Amen Hopefully u get to sing or have sung the above,hence you will know what power is.

[@rdslayer738]

You know, as much as i disagree with islam as a religion, i do feel sad for muslims, imagine your entire religion, everything you believed, every imam/teacher you trusted. Even your holy book is one big fabricated lie. Damn, it must hurt.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

lol it is sad,yet i think 2% of Islam can be correct. My stance is,that the Muhammad character and his quran are of something of facts.

[@nataliamundell6266]

​@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9wouldn't it be easier just to look at actual verified facts then try to find the meger 2% in the quran

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

@@nataliamundell6266 . As AL Bukhari threw out 300,000 non-quranic hadith,so to accept 2.5 % of 300,000,which is a ludicrous claim. Same can be said about islamic narrative that only 2.5 % could be viewed as correct.That 2.5 % is muhammads character and his quran arabic is the 2.5%. Ps.Islamic narrative has destroyed Muhammads character anyway with vile filthy guidelines. Eg Muhammad claimed it's ok for Adult males to sleep with children,or it's ok for me to sleep with married female war captives. Above is rejected by me as fictional fibs.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

@@nataliamundell6266 Because i have understanding that Muhammad is real,i then attribute the 100% of the Qur'an as potentially his,in that it all came out of his mouth.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

@@nataliamundell6266 . The islamic model is very ugly.Its nothing like the New Covanent. After Jesus there cannot be a new religion.The islamic religion is made up of a lot of fakery.

[@123dsj123]

What is a Sea? A sea is a large body of salt water - it is a part of the ocean that is partly surrounded by land. There are seven oceans on earth and approximately 50 seas (i.e., Mediterranean Sea, Dead Sea, Caribbean Sea, Philippines Sea, etc.) All seas are connected (joined, or a part) of the seven salt-water oceans. * In the Quran, Allah talks about two seas: (1) a fresh-water sea and (2) a salt-water sea. Allah also tells us that he placed a forbidden barrier (blockade) between the two seas so that one does not cross over into the other. Quran 25:53 reads, “It is he who has let free the two seas - one palatable (pleasant) and sweet, and the other salty and bitter; he has set a barrier between them - a partition that is forbidden to be passed. * Here is the problem: We cannot find one (single) fresh-water sea on earth - in the same way we cannot find the Great Bronze Wall that Alexander the Great built between two mountains for Gog and Magog when he (Alexander the Great) walked 93 million miles into space between earth and the setting place of the sun. [See Quran 18:86]

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Hi,Quran 55:20 Between them is a Barrier which they do not transgress: 55:22 Out of them come Pearls and Coral: Abdullah Yusuf Ali. It's seems the two waters,is about Coral reef water,that is 100% salt water.Any less than 100% the Coral dies. As for Radma(roof and wall),it's likely the images are found at 👉 Greenland Mysterious object,on Google. It's likely humans are imprisoned rather than some fictional fantasy crap like monsters that Islamic lituratures brag about.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Hi.quran 55:19 He has let free the two bodies of flowing water,meeting together,20 Between them is a barrier which they do not transgress.22 Out of them come Pearls and Coral: Above seems to be talking about coral reef water,where water has to be 100% salt-water. As for Radma(wall and roof),it could be images found at,Greenland Mysterious Object.88 kilometres long.

[@123dsj123]

@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 There are no fresh-water coral reefs. Coral reefs are an underground ecosystem found only in salty water - especially seas or oceans. All coral reefs are held together by calcium carbonate in warm, shallow, clear, sunny, and agitated water. There are no forbidden barriers to keep the salt-water sea/ocean from reaching the coral reefs.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

@@123dsj123 . In normal water as sweet water and salt water mixing,that is normal.Tafsirs suggest it means the above two waters don't mix. I suggest they wrong.as I said the only waters that don't mix are waters around coral reefs where coral grows,and that water cannot have fresh water mixing with it. To me sea salt have fresh water do mix.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

@@123dsj123 . The verse two verses later,mentions of getting coral and pearl.Coral is from salt water only.A barrier is keeping the salt water as 100% salt water.

[@maxschon7709]

If MHMD in East was an Exilarchs the issued with the Jews might have his Origin in that: The Jews in Israel followed the Tora altered by Ezra - what MHMD das as an "corruption".

[@violetIkia]

Please do Ishmael. I think we are taught wrong. Ishmael's mother Hagar was Egyptian, Ishmael married Egyptian so they can't be Arabs. Most probably Pharaoh and Coptic Egyptians.

[@Amaan2344]

I think I'm Kafir now .

[@aaronmusa234]

my dad was a pastor in Dallas. today his church is a pizzeria. selling slices a much better use of the property muslim since 2002

[@user-mc9ds8kn6s]

Why? I am not saying that I don't like to eat pizza. My real question is, why did you become a traitor and turn to Islam?

[@timmer710]

My name is abdul. The apostacy within my "religion" looks like the first cranks in a gigantic dam that is gonna to break. The only thing we can resort to is violence, lies and promising jokers an endless orgy in the afterlife.

[@davidabramovichkosciuszko4216]

❤

[@britanikothegreat8513]

Genesis 3:9-13?!. Leviticus 5:17. Jeremiah 7:1-6. Jeremiah 8:1-9?!. Genesis 3:23-24. Daniel 9:1-23. Daniel 12:3-4!!! Vincent. Morning has broken. Psalms 144:9. Malachi 4:2. Psalms 44:21. Job 40:7-9?!.-12. Hebrew 4:12.

[@aaronmusa234]

yessss mayor siddiq khan rolls to 3rd term as London mayor. karma

[@sgmovies7864]

Isaiah 42 refers to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) based on the connection to Kedar and parallels with his life and teachings. Kedar was Abraham's grandson, and the second son of Ishmael (Genesis 25:13). According to Islamic prophetic tradition, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was descended from Adnan. Adnan was the ancestor of the Adnani Arabs of northern, central and western Arabia and a direct descendant of Ishmael. It is not confirmed how many generations are between them; however, Adnan was fairly close to Ishmael. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is seen as the servant mentioned in Isaiah 42:1, who brings forth judgment and is upheld by God.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

ISAIAH 42:1 (part says,he will bring forth justice to the nations) If the above was to be speaking about Muhammad,then you need to know,that no justice is coming from Sharia Islam or anything of the islamic madness. It's odd that you don't realise that stinky islamic lituratures have already destroyed Muhammad character as to him being of anything of rightiousness.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Isaiah 42:1 says he will bring forth justice to the nations. Their is no way ever that the religion of Islam also known as Sharia law, can give justice to the nations.

[@sgmovies7864]

@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 We live during the time when there is no caliphate. So you cannot assume the full knowledge of the Shariah to give your opinion.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

@@sgmovies7864 You may have misunderstood me. If there was to b a future Khalifa kingdom,it most likely will have 88 or is it 188 abrogated Qur'an verses. After Christ their is no religion to be seen to be made.Also quran 2:62 suggests that, Those who believe(in this Qur'an),and those who follow the Jewish(scriptures),and the Christians and the Sabians-- any who believe in Allah and the last day, and work right- eousness,shall have their reward with their Lord; So Christians/Nasara will get reward? Even when 100% of Christians have faith that Christ is/was crucified ? Ps.Hadratalllh Mustafa Muhammad is acquainted with the Nasara word.Hes called Nasarun.

[@sgmovies7864]

@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 Again we do not understand full theology and context. We do not live during the prophet's time. We leave to God almighty as He guides whomever He wills. To those Jews who accept Jesus Christ (Isa ibn Mariam), they became nasara/"Christians" and those who did not remain as Jews. Surely there is a reward for them (Nasara/"Christians"). There are also those "Christians" who believe that Jesus (pbuh) is not crucified. Muslims do not enter into dispute with persons but on their belief.

[@ingoschneuing1073]

Think about it: The Jewish teachings in the Talmud state that the Messiah ben David will reign for 1000 years and wipe out Amalek/Christianity. In 1683, the army of misguided Talmudist Exilarchs was outside Vienna. That was the end of the 1000-year reign of the Talmudic Messiah ben David that had started in Medina/Mekka 😊

[@maxschon7709]

Islam Always got it stuft wrong: they still say that Jews Worship Erza because the believe in the coming of Elia and the Messias.

[@BREAKDANCE-mi7ik]

I’m proud ex Muslim look what bin came across in the past and not many Muslims know that or deny this themselves!!! This is a holy Hadith and you cannot deny it, the news about Muhammad was bewitched!! How can Muslims still follow such a person and for this reason and another reason I left Islam!!! and there are other things that have kept me away from Islam such as the black stone in Mecca 🕋 (pagan) and sex with virgins in Allah's heaven!! for me that does not come from a holy man but from a bewitched man as stated in this Hadith!! Read Narrated Aisha: Once the Prophet (ﷺ) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done. ‎حَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْمُثَنَّى، حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى، حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامٌ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي أَبِي، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم سُحِرَ حَتَّى كَانَ يُخَيَّلُ إِلَيْهِ أَنَّهُ صَنَعَ شَيْئًا وَلَمْ يَصْنَعْهُ‏.‏ Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3175 In-book reference : Book 58, Hadith 17 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 53, Hadith 400

[@joecarbone2316]

History had been falsified to serve the rulers. The fact is only few of the Jews after the second temple was destroyed went into diaspora. Majority of the remaining converted to Christianity and believed in holy trinity imposed on them by the Roman Catholic Church, some believed Jesus was only a messiah but not son of god, and some remained Jewish to this day. The ones who believed Jesus was not son of god and refused holy trinity, also believed another messiah would come and rebuild the 3rd temple, and this group is what started what you call Islam today with the help of their Arab cousins who were Nestorian Christians. The 3rd temple had been rebuilt since the last 1300 years, it’s the dome of the rock. Technically the “Mission was accomplished”, but Christianity and Judaism will not recognize it regardless of who the Islamic version of Muhammad was.

[@abj136]

Imposed on them by the Roman Catholic Church. Impossible. The RCC was not sovereign until after 400, but the teachings of trinity (minus that word) were established centuries before. And besides, the Jews could not be imposed upon in this way, they’ve always been steadfast in religion. In any event this video is about Babylonian Jews, who were far far outside the influence of Rome.

[@cahayakebenaran8746]

need more deep research

[@silvesan9162]

There are errors in your assertions. Also, you should provide your sources. 3rd temple prophesied in the Bible is zero like the Muhammadan dome. The 3rd temple, wherein sacrifices would be made, would have revealed the anti-Christ. Neither sacrifices not anti'Christ have yet to happen.

[@Cross77774]

The Roman Catholic church appeared in the 8 century with Charlemagne and became official with the Great Schism of 1054. Before that the Church was Orthodox. The word Catholic is a Greek one from the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed and is used by Orthodox Greeks.

[@Louis.R]

The Messiah ben Joseph in Judaism draws upon Genesis 49:22-26 Israel's blessing of Joseph. I am a Jewish convert to Catholcism and note that the rabbinic Jewish interpretation of these passages, including the "shepherd rock", is wildly different to that rendered by St Jerome in the Vulgate (I side with Jerome).

[@user-dw1jp7tp6i]

So, you are also familiar with the blessing upon Judah that the scepter shall not depart from between his feet until Shiloh comes. Do you agree that Jesus is Shiloh? Jesus confirmed this through the destruction of the temple and the dispersion. The regathering then of Israel can only be the lost "sheep" not the goats. These "sheep" can only be those who have accepted Jesus and honored his image in others. So, how is it a group can usurp the scepter of Judah from Jesus and claim to have the right to the name Israel to govern itself while committing abuse to any who have accepted Christ without being in high treason and "zionist" antichrist?

[@Louis.R]

@@user-dw1jp7tp6i they *are* in high treason.

[@julietabraham476]

Nothing to Do With Islam and yet everything and everybody was always a Moslem .Allah and Momo forgot the Gharqad tree is Jewish😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 God bless you brethren and keep digging for more in Pandora's box..😂😂😂😂

[@user-by7zt1ns8g]

FREE PALESTINE🍉🍉🍉

[@KittykKatte]

Get a job

[@ItzTankzz]

​@@KittykKatteGet a heart

[@sgmovies7864]

Muslims are true 'Christians' John 5:30 - I cannot do anything of my own will, but according to that which I have heard, I judge, and my judgment is just, for I am not seeking my will, but the will of him who has sent Me. Muslims submit their will to God Luke 2:22 - And when the time of purification according to the Law of Moses was complete, His parents brought Him to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord Muslims practice circumcision Luke 4:2 - where for forty days He was tempted by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and when they had ended, He was hungry. Muslims practice fasting Luke 24:36 - While they were describing these events, Jesus Himself stood among them and said, “Peace be with you.” The phrase "Peace be Upon You" is a common Muslims' greeting Matthew 26:39 - Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” Muslims prostrates (touching the forehead on the ground) when they pray Matthew 7:22-23 - Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Jesus Christ is not his real name. On Judgement Day, be sure that you do not only profess while lacking full surrender to his Lordship in your life.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Muslims submit to god? there is a quran translated verse,which says,don't say your are believers,but say you are Muslim because faith has not entered your heart. Your Muslim self fictional definitions of 'one who submit'👈 what a load of crap. Muslim is Hebrew word Meshulam. Abram/Abraham was Meshulam.Hawareyeena(quran 5:111) are Meshulam. Islamic Muslims are not Meshulams.Meshulam is to do with peace-keeper word.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Muslims are true Christians ? What a disgusting claim. Abraham and Hawareyeena are Muslim,yet that is Hebrew Meshulam,which is to do with peacekeeping. Islamic Muslim is nothing of Meshulam.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Muslims are the true Christians 😒. What kind of vomit speech is that? When did Muslims change from genuine Abrahamic flesh circumsizion,to then adopt a false ring-method flesh circumsizion?

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Muslims don't even adopt authentic Abraham circumsizion technique. Muslims use ring-method,hence you are unlike Abraham in flesh private part. Who introduced you to a replicate circumsizion ?

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Muslims use ring-method for circumsizion. That's not like Abraham. And don't class ring method as being anything of authentic.

[@AlonzoHarris235]

Jay Smith believes in three gods.

[@borneandayak6725]

Yes : allah, kaaba and hajar aswad 😁😁😁

[@AlonzoHarris235]

@@borneandayak6725 Why do you believe in three gods?

[@MU-we8hz]

1924 quran 😂

[@Atlantis_will_repeat_from_YHVH]

Al-lah😂😂😂

[@garybowings1538]

​@@AlonzoHarris235"Allah is uncreated and eternal. The Quran is uncreated and eternal. Allah and the Qur'an are co-eternal. We are one short of a trinity." - Alonzo Harris

[@aaronmusa234]

rome razed the temple in Jerusalem to the ground. 70 ad. would never allow romans to worship rabbi Jesus as god. so they created Rome Jesus. who taught trinity trigodism ate pork chops. and worshipped on sun day. the day Rome worshipped the sun god. on Sunday

[@garybowings1538]

"Dear Broder: Lo! Behold! Al Masihu Isa Word of Allah! Lo! Behold! Al Masihubnu Maryam our Savior! Muh? Amin." - Bob Muh

[@SaintRegime]

Not supporting any denomination, but you should know some facts. Acts 10, the food laws were confirmed as over. Acts 20 and 1 Corinthians 16 point to the 'first day of the week' that the Believers would gather.

[@aaronmusa234]

@@garybowings1538 quran ' say he is one. eternal. he was not begotten nor does he beget [rules out a man/god/jesus]. and there is nothing like unto him ' this is why rabbis allow jews to pray inside any mosque. but never inside a church [ roman pagan trinity]

[@aaronmusa234]

@@SaintRegime jesus returrns !!!! a pastor invites Jesus for dinner. p ' here ya go my lord our finest glazed ham ' Jesus ' what is this swine you place before me ? pastor ' no worries my lord Paul said its not what goes in your mouth that is filthy ' Jesus ' how dare you think I would break the kosher food laws. and who is this Paul you speak of ?

[@garybowings1538]

Really? It seems the Ummah can't agree where Allah is. What an unmitigated clown 🤡 show: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWfUgGyknpanpbssi=kBQ1VUj8sdjpgdk1​@@aaronmusa234

[@aaronmusa234]

harretz Israeli daily. 12/21/17 ' we do not have the torah of moses today ' bart ehrman ' their are 50k Biblical manuscripts no two alike and none of the gospels were written by any apostle ' pastor Bosworth smith after 11 yrs of research ' the quran is the only scripture preserved in its original language ' so when god in quran removes the slanders of biblical scribes ' yahweh/jesus murdered infants in cribs of Egypt [ passover/infanticide]. yahweh/jesus murdered 7 million people in noah floods for the disbelief of a few dozen in noah community I tend to follow the quran instead bible barbaric. also no stoning to death in quran. but stoning to death is in bible for gays adultery and apostates barbaric

[@garybowings1538]

Sunan Abi Dawud 4449 Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar: "A group of Jews came and invited the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) to Quff. So he visited them in their school. They said: 'AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them.' They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who sat on it and said: 'Bring the Torah.' It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: 'I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.' "

[@garybowings1538]

"It is prescribed that if the married man and woman commit this crime then they be stoned to death, and the punishment for unmarried culprit is a hundred stripes." (Sahih Bukhari, Kitbut-Tafsir p. 657

[@hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo]

Bart Ehrman says the Quran was invented over a 300 year period, it's good to see you're a fan.

[@annemurphy9339]

You post myths and then stand proud of the most heavily rewritten and plagiarized book of ideology in existence.

[@rob7724]

Hahaha.. good jokes. You should become a comedian

[@user-so4mf9ln9d]

Firstly, Muhammad is an Arabic name, and it means the one who praises God, praise be to Him abundantly, so do not try to attach your disgust to us, and the Qur’an is the final revelation from God. Believe it or not, this does not matter. Islam today is one of the fastest-spreading religions.

[@Voyager_on_thyme]

None of what you have said has any empirical standing. Most other religions do, and so does Christianity. Ignorance is your biggest fault, and it also the same thing that is going to make Islam fall. Where force is used to spread religion, there is no God, just soulless sets of believes.