Michael Heiser - Do Satan and his Angels Really Think They Can Win?

This question is about the "powers" and "principalities" or intelligent evil, which seeks to overcome the plans of God. Seriously asking, what makes satan and his angels tick?
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[@DefiantSix]

His strategy isn't to "win" per se, but merely to keep YOU out of the Winner's circle.

[@Prd64twl]

@DefiantSix...I don't think I've ever heard that expressed with such splendid truth and wisdom...thank you! 🙂

[@ForeverInFaith]

Amen!

[@atomovedin3970]

Exactly 👋

[@-Atrocious]

Amen

[@cmtat1976]

I spent some time the other day explaining this to exactly that to my friend. He was struggling with Lucifer's end goal, and just couldn't wrap his head around it at first

[@agathawinters3383]

Lucifer knows he's defeated. His only goal is to take as many people with him into oblivion.

[@johnkoenig326]

_You_ seem rather oblivious. So that's one down...

[@two-tone6524]

@@johnkoenig326 how is she oblivious? It sounds like you are condemning her

[@johnkoenig326]

@@two-tone6524 Oblivious to reality. You most likely wouldn't understand.

[@two-tone6524]

@@johnkoenig326 try me

[@johnkoenig326]

@@two-tone6524 Why don't you ask god what I meant. And while you're at it, ask him where Jimmy Hoffa's remains are located. Enquiring minds want to know.

[@FlavioMarceloSousa35]

They're a higher intelligence and they know they don't stand a chance. They are driven by resentment and hate our guts.

[@danbillingsley596]

Satan was kicked out of Heaven due to his rebellion. He knows exactly what is coming and how soon. He is going to be tied up for 1000 years, so if you might have noticed the world going crazy...Satan has kicked up his efforts to steal souls and deceive as many as he can. The second coming of Christ is at hand.

[@RenewingtheRemnant]

They are driven by their lust for power and hatred for people and The Lord. Satan wants to have complete Dominion over this realm. By feeding off of our sin, our world becomes more dysfunctional and they have more power over us. But through Christ sin has been conquered. Demons try to scare you and torment you because if they can get you to fear them than they are getting you to not fear God over them. Creating more sin. The more sin, the more power the devil gains over our lives, and the devil wishes to torment us with diseases, plagues, natural disasters, etc. Satan is the great Archon(Ruler) who is the Zues of ancient Rome, Baal of Mesopotamia, Odin of the norse, and Quatzequatel of the aztecs, who receives worship even unto today by those who are blinded by his influence.

[@notsev7566]

@@RenewingtheRemnant Well said, perfect explaination.

[@slimchance7335]

The Evil NAZI regime acted the same way in pouring more resources into exterminating the Jews rather than trying to use resources to AND the Jewish prisoners for the war effort aside from a few rocket facilities.

[@danbillingsley596]

@@slimchance7335 There is honestly no difference in the way Nazi Germany did business compared to the way the Democrats are acting. They are openly destroying our nation.

[@kennypayton8833]

The only authority that Satan has over the believer is what they give him.

[@adorabledeplorable5105]

I read a comment once by a wise person . “ every time Satan reminds me of my past ........I remind him of his future “. He knows he will not win against God . So his entire existence , since his fall , is to take as much of mankind to his ultimate domain .

[@kbrown6543]

Amen! Love that!

[@jaradshaw4723]

Obviously he doesn't as the Bible says his aim was to replace God, thus he does not know he will lose. The word of God tells his future, and I have no doubt he's read and heard of it. However, that in no way means he believes it.

[@chuckw8391]

Well said!

[@Micah-6.8]

Jesus has already won the victory over death-when he resurrected by his own power. The Bible says Satan is angry because he knows his time is short (in Daniel or Rev somewhere). Satan hates humans so much because of what Jesus did for us, for the length he went to in order to bring salvation and because we are going to inherit the Earth with Jesus. And because he’s such a malignant narcissist, he’s doing the only thing he can do right now by deceiving man away from God. This is giving him what psychologists refer to as “narcissistic supply”. But no one can snatch us away from Gods hand.

[@nicl8749]

I think they know the war is lost, but they want to take as many down as possible with them before Jesus comes.

[@jeffdavis7543]

Yes true. The spiritual warfare is intense. Let's pray hard for one another, taking the admonition of Jude 20-25 dead serious. Look Up brothers and sisters keep your lamps shining. God bless

[@paulruderstaller5062]

The devils themselves know they're damned. Their wealthy elite counterparts on earth aren't that smart.

[@lynnehalbert]

They rule over and possess the wealthy elite in all world leaders, hierarchy in secret societies, all alphabet groups, government, corporations, Hellywierd, military, education, even the 501c3 churches.

[@yungjewant7291]

@@lynnehalbert on point

[@yungjewant7291]

On point

[@Cryptkeeper0311]

They believe that lucifer is god and that they themselves can become like gods through self-ascension. The oldest lie in the book. That also ties into the New Age movement along with the luciferian doctrine. Not to mention Helena Blavatsky (the founder of the new age movement) herself was a luciferian.

[@saved2279]

Nailed it

[@GillAgainsIsland12]

Trying to find rationality in absolute evil is a futile endeavor. There IS no rationality. The original rebellion was not rational. Lucifer swore absolute enmity against God and His creation, man. It's not about winning, it's about destroying.

[@bobpolo2964]

Sin makes you stupid

[@proudhon100]

@@bobpolo2964 CS Lewis - in his science fiction trilogy - brilliantly portrays the very thin line between evil behaviour and insane behaviour.

[@VoDitas]

God has in the Bible killed more than the Devil can Dream of and he created a place of eternal torture to top it of. so who is the insane one?

[@proudhon100]

@@VoDitas Eterenal torment is what humans have read into the bible.

[@GillAgainsIsland12]

@@VoDitas You are.

[@bobbywilson5730]

Devil can't delay or thwart what God has set a time for.

[@ricoparadiso]

Right. I dont agree with this take. I believe Satan is more-so a tool used for Gods Will as shown in Job. Regardless of how rebellious satan(s) endeavors are they ultimately lead to Gods Will being fulfilled in the end. We see this at the end of Job, we see this at the end of Revelation 20 with satans release & subsequent ultimate defeat just as prophesied. So although sin & rebellion are against God, God is still sovereign in that these practices still lead to Gods Ultimate Will in the end regardless of the effort of adversaries.

[@ThaboW11]

@@ricoparadiso Amen, the Bible says the 'dragons and the owls shall'

[@nerychristian]

The fallen angels do not have any hope. They know they are doomed forever. They also can no longer experience any of the good things that we as humans can experience, like love, joy, hope, forgiveness, etc. Every year that passes, the burden of their guilt and sins grows. Imagine living thousands of years, but never being able to ask God for forgiveness for any of your sins.

[@jamesnobilio6247]

That's an interesting way to think about it.. Maybe that's why they keep pushing the envelope. They maybe think since they're already doomed they can do whatever evil they want as it increases?

[@truebankai2762]

They don't want forgiveness they are too prideful so they just decided to take as many human souls as possible to hell with them

[@BCB77B]

True Bankai - Well we know they aren’t granted any forgiveness anyway. Elohim have no way to salvation. So it’s not that they don’t want it - they are denied it. Hence all the more reason to keep striking back and pushing the end as far away in time as they possibly can. What’s humorous is that they think they are still defying God with some level of success, when in fact it’s only that God is allowing them more time as part of his plan to gather the gentiles. It’s his agenda, not theirs, but they seem a bit oblivious to it...or perhaps just in denial.

[@YeshuaCameAndGaveUsLifeandLove]

@@truebankai2762 In Enoch they get Enoch to write a plead letter to God but he rejects it of course!

[@gregzaniewski3996]

They knew better.

[@bradcolby1]

I accepted Christ when I was 7, my Church took my commitment very seriously. As Matthew 19:14 tells us to let young kids come to Jesus and don’t disregard their commitment because of their age.We had a meeting to ensure I was properly briefed on the life of spiritual warfare I was entering into. I’m in my twenties now, and everything the Bible says: from the parable of the seeds,to the fact that there will always be wars and rumors of wars is True. Jesus said “I am the way the Truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me. They also told me when I accepted Christ, some people think being a Christian makes life easier,but this actually means Satan will now attack you for the rest of your life. They told me that since I had Jesus, he can withstand anything but it will not be easy, but God will complete His life for me.This has been proved countless times since. I thank God everyday for Jesus and the life of purpose and deep fulfillment He’s already given me.

[@carolmaplesden916]

that's beautiful praise God for those wonderful saints that schooled you

[@bradcolby1]

@@carolmaplesden916 Agreed

[@andrewpratten]

Short answer is 'no'. They know they have lost and as the Bible tells us: Satan knows that he has but a short time. They just want to take as many souls with them, as they can.

[@liliankuhn4671]

That's what I believe as well.

[@CatsWithShoes]

like other miserable losers in life, they realize that they can't make it, so they enjoy having a hand in making sure others do not as well.

[@melchizedek7373]

this last 100 or so years has been the bumper time for demons. especially the last 20-30 years. drinks, drugs, music, film. and latterly video games and social media. they've had a field day. they've never had a better time. no more.

[@tadeyomphande6060]

I think your comment should have had the most replies but only the deeply discerning can see through. Indeed demons have had a field day with so much distractions now days.Thanks for your insight Melchi

[@rabbitcreative]

@@tadeyomphande6060 LOL what you said was sooo cryptic and elite, lol. Self-awareness. All 3 of us are commenting on YT. ... ... ... You follow me?

[@Tdizzle7775]

God is letting them fill to the brim before laying a beat down on them. It’s amazing people can believe mankind is “evolving” when it clearly is devolving.

[@alcoholfree6381]

There is nothing new under the sun! A wise man said that. I’m 67 and I agree that the last 30+ years have degraded for the worse. The smart phone, computers, the Internet, DEMENTOCRATS, and many other things have lowered the quality of life. The USA is galloping to become the modern Sodom and Gomorrah; we have a ways to go but there is no doubt that the blood of 72,000,000 innocent lives from abortion will be paid for in our judgement!! Watching football on the Sabbath and the violation of every commandment will result in our judgement. Remember that Jesus cried when He saw what was going to happen!! God bless you brother.

[@mattbaldwin247]

To be honest if we are students of history you’d see that it’s really no worse now than it ever has been. Death and destruction have followed humanity since the fall, the Roman Empire, the French Revolution,etc. time proves that there is nothing new under the sun.

[@TheHereigoagain]

It’s like trying to understand why my ex-wife absolutely had to have a fight with me at least once a week! Futile!!

[@ChildofGod-q7j]

I pray “ the fullness of the gentiles” happens VERY soon . I hate all the EVIL , pain and suffering I see around the globe. All those suffering because of the principalities, powers of darkness, etc.… Blessings to all

[@MrSaltyeye]

I wonder if they understand that the more that evil abounds, the closer we are to the end. Also, this implies they are under the constraints of time, space, and matter.

[@zenyattamondatta7757]

@jay The end IS a positive thing, but some Christians seem to want the powder keg in the Middle East ignited so as to bring upon us earlier the end of this age and the return of Christ. What these people don't get, I think, is that, like Mike said, the return of Christ is dependent upon the fullness of the Gentiles. The side of evil, then, is simply engaging in whatever tactics are necessary to delay the fullness of the Gentiles and this extends their reign here as long as possible.

[@annallen5838]

O.

[@alexandernorman5337]

The devil and his angels are under the constraints of time, space, and matter. The universe is naturally ordered. That's why we can analyze it and make predictions with science. If there were millions of beings working their own petty agendas outside of (and above) the constraints of natural laws then we would know it by seeing the chaos. Satan cannot do anything except what God allows. Revelation does seem to imply that he will be unchained to show his true power for a little while in the last days.

[@arelisreginello5463]

Every day we are that much closer.

[@matthewmiller9526]

Project Camelot interviewed a man, one of the most intelligent people I have ever seen interviewed. Kerry Cassidy asked him at the end of the interview why. Why would they continue this agenda knowing the end can not favor them. Bill Woods answer, they are insane.

[@mtkz13]

This is way believers need to be evangelizing. It's not about getting distracted with what your government is doing and not doing. It's about winning lost people to Christ Jesus. If you want God's Kingdom to come faster; start winning the lost to Christ Jesus. Not stockpiling food and supplies and hiding out from the government.

[@IsaacNussbaum]

*"...start winning the lost to Christ Jesus."* I don't disagree with you, hearthemusic. I do wonder how that works in practice, though. Church membership is off and falling fast. The numbers of those who self-identify as Christians is in steep decline. Churches don't convert sinners so much as take members away from each other (i.e. church members playing musical churches.) I am an old man and in my lifetime I have known only a handful of people, in or out of the church, who had a deep interest in things of the spirit. There must be some other route to bringing in the Earthly Kingdom of God. As far as I can tell the evangelism way isn't working.

[@kennethm.johnson]

Judgement has already been pronounced so it's a last ditch attempt to fight the authority that pronounced it.

[@bridgeofgraceandyou5687]

They have no choice but to war because its clear in their hearts that they have no method of redemption. They know they are without God, that is an infuriating reality to them.

[@heritagelegacy]

Can you imagine for them they cannot receive grace and mercy from God like we can due to their original estate. I wonder if that has anything to do with the passage “As to this salvation, the prophets who prophesied of the grace that would come to you made careful searches and inquiries, seeking to know what person or time the Spirit of Christ within them was indicating as He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow. It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, in these things which now have been announced to you through those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven-things into which angels long to look.” ‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1:10-12‬ ‭NASB

[@H.Nenningger]

Exactly. It's game theory. The enemy doesn't have to "win" but keep the game going without going down the road of Tribulation.

[@ruintheliarsschemes]

Not so. Haven't you been listening? China and Russia are preparing to accomplish the Lord's Judgement though that is not their belief that's what it will be. God is not mocked and since you have chosen to mock me I will choose to mock you on the day of your calamity. Men do not decide what prophecy is. That belongs to YAH Most High. Just because a bunch of rebellious stiff necked people back away from the battle doesn't mean the battle won't continue as it is written "you will pursue your enemies into the darkness" and "I broke my enemies till they could not rise again" "by your strength I have done this" so this is not a game and the wicked will find that out really soon

[@oliverqueen6077]

Satan and his fallen angels can't keep any "game" going. Everything is in God's hands. He is the only sovereign of the universe. No one can stop Him or stay His hand.

[@oliverqueen6077]

God foresaw it all before it ever even came into existence

[@JohnMac2023A.D.]

Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

[@Ebsonic]

This is very brilliant. God be praised!

[@canadiankewldude]

*_God Bless All from Jesus of Nazareth, Our Messiah_*

[@accabb2487]

That was actually my question. Brilliant answer by Mike!

[@auntpurl5325]

That makes sense. And Yes. Please do a chat about the day of the Lord!

[@theogusat7968]

No, it does not make any sense. "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. " 2 Thes 2. It seems to me the Devil is unpatient, cannot wait to throw the Antichrist into the scene. It is not stalling, he WANTS to bring the end of days. But it would have made more sense (just saying) to theorize about the number of Devil's army. That when he had a third of the angels, he lost. And then he lost again at the cross. So the only viable option is war at Jerusalem. Why Jerusalem? There's the door to Heaven, right under God's feet. That's why he will declare himself God in the Temple. That spot is the direct link to Heaven. There is another door at Bethel, Jakob's ladder. He thinks that last time Michael defeated him because of the numbers. This is a more viable theory: WAR. This evangelist is "humanizing" Satan, he seems unable to grasp the concept of pure evil, not being able to stop from doing evil and finding pleasure in it. The Holy Spirit is in the world and yet how much evil can we do? Now imagine something absolutely separated from God, in which there is no love. What Lucifer did not want to understand is that no one can have more goodness than God and even more: no one can be good from himself. The moment he stepped down from his position and sinned was the moment he was utterly transformed into a (powerful) dragon, nothing good in him. These evangelists should STOP HUMANIZING SATAN because his evil is not negotiable: yes, he would rip in you in half and send you to Heaven if he cannot convince you to renounce Christ. Those who refuse 666 will be beheaded. So no, it does not make any sense what this man is talking. Better than humanizing Satan, the answer would have been: I don't know, bro, what makes the Devil tick, and maybe we will never find out because in Heaven we will look at him as you look at garbage: "But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet." (Is. 14:19)

[@studmalexy]

quite simply..yes..they thin they can win.(by performing and fulfilling prophecy in a "same but opposite" pattern, they attempt to make a "legalistic" claim to this realm.

[@Gary_The_Gray]

You are reasoning simply from a human level,@@theogusat7968. Read my rebuttal from 4/5/2019. Satan has NOTHING to gain. He's heard his judgement. He knows what his punishment will be. He's served his purpose in the justified plan of The Father and seeing how his own actions have betrayed him his rage against mankind will be his revenge. But Jesus will strip him of his last power stroke when death over humans is destroyed and the demon legions are also done away with. If I were a wagering man I would bet against your theory, but alas... Keep the faith.

[@zenyattamondatta7757]

@@theogusat7968 I think Satan wants this to go on as long as possible, but I agree he is beyond humanity

[@samthegreekboy6812]

The demons that Jesus sent into the herd of swine asked Jesus if he is sending them to the abyss before their time, so they knew that they were going to the abyss.

[@LeeHardingSask]

The pastor from People's Church in Toronto wrote The Quest for Souls. He said Satan's forces were especially fierce against foreign missions for the reasons described here

[@apostlemichaelwarren7442]

Satan knows he is NOT going to win. He knows his time is coming to an end. He’s just trying to trick as many souls as possible to go with him.

[@StRock-wz6yx]

The angels good and evil are vicariously influencing and living through our thoughts, we all are at war in the battle between good n evil

[@WillMunny22]

solid video Michael Heider. I often find myself wondering this question also, along with other bibical mysteries. thx. bless

[@Croiseeman]

Isaiah 14:16They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms

[@Gary_The_Gray]

I love that story cause it puts Satan in his place. A little weasel of a creature that's looked down on in disgust and disbelief. Ha! Nothing to him. Greater is He who's in me than this rat who's running this wicked world. Lol.

[@snowyskylar8821]

Very helpful. Thank you.

[@JoyRaptor]

Such a great answer. Thank you.

[@BCB77B]

Wonderful question and great explanation! 👍🏻

[@genesiswestcontractingltd1819]

It's not about winning it's about causing as much damage as possible.

[@patp3800]

A reset is what they want...when you reset something you start over....we are not looking to start all this mess over again...we are looking to see it end...the start of something entirely new

[@ShadowofTheAlmighty]

It DID end!.... If not then Jesus lied....😢

[@helenhighwater5313]

" Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time." Revelation 12:12. Yes, Satan knows he's not going to win.

[@TNJ-gn2gv]

I genuinely think that they are trying to hurt God as much as possible while simultaneously lying to themselves that they are a match for God because of pride.

[@foxiefair123]

Yeah, me too.

[@gregzaniewski3996]

Aweome.thank you.

[@supernatural9r406]

You are a Great thinker Mr Heiser.

[@stevetaylor4415]

Supernatural 9R your name suggests you know you’ve been judged [ niner ] supernatural [ angel ] and your emoji well you know those who winketh the eye and stick out the tongue.... just sayin

[@jamesnobilio6247]

Prolonging it isn't victory

[@Roseredeemed]

I feel/think this time is at hand many things have shown me this which scares me for people sometimes to a point of heartache & panic!

[@fellowshipwithme9133]

They just want to hurt God as much as they can, and how do they do that? By hurting what God loves the most.. his Children. May we overcome and show that fool no one matches our God and Lord Jesus Christ.

[@jtzutube]

There's one thing that drives King Lawful Evil - SPITE. Such is the case with those "already Judged" and knowing it.

[@nealjolly5434]

Satan knows he can't win against god. His only goal is to take, as many lost souls to hell he can on the day of judgment.

[@scottatutube1]

I had not thought of this before - the main objective of the kingdom of darkness is to buy time - forestall their ultimate judgment that they know is coming. Hence the fierce opposition all over much of the world against cross-cultural evangelism - missions. Matthew 24:14 - And this gospel must first be preached as a witness to all ethnos, and then the end shall come.

[@missesraisin]

If they are all about accusing us, I'm assuming our transgressions are their plea to THE HIGHEST GOD JESUS. They are saying that we are worse than them and sometimes they are right, so they also have a right to everything we get. JESUS ROCKS!! He is coming to judge us all YAY!!

[@TheHeartOfTheHour1]

I captured an image that showed about 20 entities with precise detail, revealing their nature: demons, and after I had finished outlining them for a picture, the image then became fuzzy and their shapes became distorted. They were one step ahead of me.

[@marcalampi5036]

Excellent video

[@jilltilghman3027]

Great point

[@karenmurphy8790]

Good word 👍🏻👍🏻

[@zeltrix]

No he knows they can’t win. But sure can make our lives a living hell while we try progress towards Christ

[@canadiankewldude]

Verily, Verily I say unto you, not all follow Jesus Christ. *_God Bless All from Jesus of Nazareth, Our Messiah_*

[@jefferylord3068]

I often wonder if these creatures have any good at all in their nature? Ive heard many preachers say , concerning people, that hell will be full of “good people “. Really sad to think about.

[@mistersunflower4156]

The way I see it: Satan does not believe he is doing bad. Every way of a man is right in his own eyes. Man isn't much different from Satan and is of his father the devil. Look at it again in Isaiah 14. Satan did not try to overthrow God. In pride, he desired to be LIKE the most high and help him his own way. This is what iniquity is. Doing good things (supposedly) but it's not God's way. I believe he thinks God will come around to his way of thinking. Satan appears in heaven daily to argue with God. He did this with Job. He is the accuser of the brethren. "God, you're not doing things the right way. You should do it my way." I think is what Satan says. Satan has his own laws, humanist manifesto for example; and his own gospel. He believes man should work for everlasting life. He is clueless about "love". For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Satan and those he deceives will go to Hell because they do not believe in God's love through Jesus sacrifice on the cross.

[@sammcrae8892]

It's not like they have a lot of options. They've already been told that they are toast. So going down fighting is about the way to go. 🙏✝️👑🙏

[@Angelalex242]

He's just trying to get every soul he can burning in Hell. It's about taking us all with him.

[@cvdevol]

The "plan" of all the ungodly is to cease to exist. They actually hate existing, and existence itself. Which means they hate the source of existence, God. So they don't think about "winning" or "losing", they only think about how to end everything, including themselves.

[@GillAgainsIsland12]

Yes. It ultimately is about existentialism. They know they are going to the Second Death which means they will cease to exist. Astonishing attitude. God's children can't comprehend it.

[@GillAgainsIsland12]

@orangeclawhammer777 You must always check scriptures through the Holy Spirit. Remember, God wrote His Laws in our hearts. And Jesus said, "The letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." He was clearly indicating that when you only rely on written text then you're relying on your human brain to interpret God's Words. That's not adequate. The Scribes and Pharisees made the same mistake.

[@nerychristian]

They dont hate existing. They hate dying. They wish they could prolong their lives and enjoy the things of this world as long as possible.

[@Jaiden_Anime_Shuns]

And God being merciful will grant them this wish.

[@Samartitxiki]

As an atheist i must say my life has changed for the better since I stopped believing in ridiculous things such as but not limited to heaven or hell. I quit worrying about if i was living right by gods standards and started living my life as if its the only one i get. When i read the bible as a Christian i was scared of life, if i do one thing that god doesn’t like i can get tortured or cease to exist depending on which verse you read or how you interpret it. When i read the bible again as an atheist i realized that if god truly existed then that being should be put on trial and found guilty for its crimes against humanity.

[@treytutko1015]

I know its so funny isnt it. He's given power to reign here on earth. The great below, but will never make it back to heaven

[@stringtheoryguitars4952]

No, God gave MAN authority over the Earth, not satan. Nowhere does God give authority to the enemy. Any authority satan exercises over the Earth is purely due to deception. He simply tricks mankind into surrendering his authority to the kingdom of darkness.

[@cclip46]

@@stringtheoryguitars4952 And besides..according to the book of Job, satan doesn't do anything without God's permission.

[@stringtheoryguitars4952]

@@cclip46 And Job is a rare example of where satan WAS allowed to operate! We blame the devil for everything when in fact it's wicked men doing his bidding! If everyone resisted the devil he would have ZERO power on Earth!

[@cclip46]

@@stringtheoryguitars4952 true...without Christ in a person's life the destroyer has legal access. Plus the curse of sin thru lineage doesn't ease the problem at all.

[@stringtheoryguitars4952]

@@cclip46 We just have to remember that when we see war, murders, torture, and other atrocities; that it's happening by the hand of man. Yes satan is behind it, but men have a choice and they CHOSE to do evil! There's very little that satan can do without A) God's permission and B) Man's cooperation

[@scottmenzies2263]

Today Satan is everywhere in the hearts of the selfcentered and the mouths of decievers.

[@kenfaulds8818]

Scott Menzies, right and he is thereby trying to make God a liar: but, we know hasatan is the accuser and is the father of liars - he ain't going to hang that one on our LORD GOD ALMIGHTY.

[@crisseven1764]

I think after the fullness of the gentiles, the great tribulation will begin and that is how Israel will be brought back to the fold.

[@geraldjohnson8871]

*As for Satan and his powers of darkness he knows his time is coming and to delay that, like Heiser said he has to keep the nations In Doubt of Salvation in Christ Jesus our Lord and our God*

[@katcorona3553]

Heiser is a genius

[@ornip1]

Thanks Dr. Heiser for the enriching material and thoughts he shares with us. Concerning the devil as a prosecutor without a case, I wonder if this makes sense: that the bad deeds we did against other humans, animals, and so on, is what the devil has against our Lord and God Jesus Christ, when He's paying the ransom for our souls, paying others for our sins. What do you think about this idea? Bem hajam.

[@robynbaker5516]

Jesus is going to have his way I like that Amen👍

[@williamearly6526]

Rev. 6 :9-11 head count of saints blood to be spilled

[@sledge1960]

Any faint hope that they could influence their future fate was utterly demolished on a hill outside Jerusalem 2,000 years ago. The Word tells us that Christ mocked them in the presence of angels. They can however win souls to join them in their place. That's our job, to win them, for our place.

[@sauravgupta7415]

By bringing all the people of Earth to Hell, the Devil wants to make the sacrifice of Jesus worthless.

[@teetee_555]

That is exactly what is going on

[@1monkey1typewriter]

With fallen angels working against Jesus just as the Jewish leadership was doing at the time, it leads me to believe that the parable of the wicked servants was not only an inditement of the leadership at the time, but of the fallen angels to a certain degree.

[@thebabaa5001]

Yes, he/they do think they are gonna win. That's how self deceit in pride and arrogance operates. Seared consciences operating in blind, mad, hatred. No soundness.

[@cosmic4037]

No idea what they were thinking. But they now have no choice anymore but to try anything.

[@harleyrider9640]

They wanna take as many souls as possible because they hate humanity..Jesus will triumph in the end&they know it.thank you Jesus for freeing mankind!!

[@WishfulSinful1969]

They must know about the script? Answer: brainwashed and deceived, of course, by their master-the sharp-tongued advocate.

[@TheElizabethashby]

YES BUT THEY DONT UNDERSTAND IT ANYMORE THAN MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT BORN AGAIN

[@stevedoetsch]

Once they rejected God they lost all freedom; they now have no choice but to fight a battle they know is lost.

[@EricSmyth4Christ]

Satan wins battles, God wins wars

[@eda8612]

Henry Morris Sr speculated that Satan developed the theory of macro evolution convincing himself God evolved first, but Satan could manipulate his own evolution to equal or surpass Jehovah.

[@RobertaMariaAtti]

Very informative, but my question is this: in Dr. Heiser's opinion, and I realize it is only an opinion, what exactly keeps believers from "entering the Kingdom"? And what should believers be doing to ensure the success of the whole Operation? The answers might be obvious to some, but for a reformed Catholic like myself, having gone full circle from the Church, to Buddhism, to Theosophy, Anthroposophy and Gnosticism, and all the steps in between, they aren't clear to me. Thank you anyway. Every time I listen to Dr. Heiser I get a bit more clarity and that bit is precious at this time. Thank you.

[@jeffreywileyjr5615]

Roberta Maria Atti denying the sacrifice of Jesus, not accepting what was done for them and not believing on him keeps them out.

[@wan4891]

Still wonder why "the princepalaties on high places" takes the devils side, knowing they choose the side of the "loser"?

[@wan4891]

@@arqeph.private Would that be the reason and for that timely goal give up eternal happiness?

[@wan4891]

@Bridget Walker It is a great pity but indeed, I tend to believe that they dislike God...?

[@wan4891]

@@arqeph.private Yes, that all sounds true. Still wondering however, if these people are born with such an evil soul or that an evil spirit has influenced their (at their birth) Godly soul?

[@wan4891]

@@arqeph.private Probably you are right; however I thought at the word that we are made after the image of God. After being born, we are exposed at the sins in the world and we will become sinners........?

[@wan4891]

@@arqeph.private Well, I can remember when I was 2 years old and honest, I really don't remember that there was sin in me....... As far as I can remember, it came only later. When we are born, we are kind of a "love song" of God without sin: sin penetrates us out of this world (i.m.o.).

[@dreamersruleNOW]

It’s all about atonement. Rich famous people plus the unrighteous will pay for their crimes here on earth or forever alive in hell begging to die. That’s all that is left to complete. Failure to compensate they who’s lives they’ve robbed, all those involved will be paying at the judgment. There is no free ticket out!

[@maaliemaal1373]

Satan believes he has a legitimate call to the throne because of what he knows about dark matter. What he doesn’t understand is how light can come out of darkness and therefore overpower it!! This is a spiritual battle and these words don’t do full justice but, the devil feels he’s an scholar in darkness and light

[@Nexus-ub4hs]

God can destroy all the evil in the universe without batting an eyelid. He is so vastly more powerful. Pretty sure evil knows that.

[@Vedioviswritingservice]

They are winning so far. All one has to do is take a long around and see what life on earth is like. Again it is how you define winning. I am not saying that Satan can seriously challenge God, but evil is every bit the equal of good on earth, in fact, it has the upper hand.

[@shawnglass108]

Yes, Satan does rule the Earth and is the God of this age..for now

[@Gotchism4Life]

One of my former theological professors stated that sin has driven Satan insane...he can't win but is so driven by hate and rage. Also, God is sovereign, and as Martin Luther pointed out, even the devil is still God's devil.

[@mikepasatieri502]

Dependence on organized religion, instead of Christ, is one method that certainly slows down the fullness of the gentiles 'coming into' the Kingdom of Christ.

[@andylineberger6795]

I think the Devil still tries..(because I still walk in the flesh even though I KNOW better)

[@jasonsage1417]

Have you read King David's List how to keep GOD getting madder at you than a one armed basketball player playing the Globe Trotters Basketball show Team by himself? I think it's like... one of those "LEG BRACELETS" they give you when you are bad enough to be punished, but not enough to be locked up... That's kinda how I see King David's short List. If your are "NEARING ANY OF THESE" particularly with your finger pointing at another running your mouth "FOR THE LORD" for their OWN GOOD... "You were NEVER Christan, if you loved GOD, you wouldn't have ever [insert something] after you knew the LORD, obviously your Baptism was a FRAUD!" Well. When we Stumble on such venomous sheep we must kid glove, for GOD, despite them spitting on us, and to keep us from being grumpy ogres and biting sheep's heads off and being petty thorns and not useful sheep dogs... again.. King David Quick Reference Sheet, To Avoid LIGHTING STRIKE ACTS OF GOD from SPLITTING YOUR WIG :) Also "Angry Man's Stay out of Jail Free Mental MANTRA from King David" haha - When ANGRY? Repeat over and over with "HELP ME GOD, I'm ANGRY" Be Reverent... Can't LOSE. Obey the mantra, be one with the mantra... Pray too. :) Proverb 6:16 - "There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are an ABOMINATION to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19 a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community. It's useful when "Love thy enemy" taunts make you see red and you want to represent GOD under all circumstances.. this "short list" tends to help people from running off cliffs when "out of sorts" forcing usually a big REAP what you SOW lesson later... Save yourself.. Listen to King David. :) PEACE

[@kbrown6543]

Praying you have surrendered completely to the Lord and are walking in spirit and in truth. Its not easy but its so worth it.

[@mrbrucewayne631]

The Nature of Satan and his angels is like that of a beast....they have absolutely no control and are hungry for the evils. They taught man those evils and then, they themselves became chained to those evil desires. So, they are not trying to defeat God as much as they are trying to perpetuate evil eternally

[@user-vg1cn4if4x]

The Almighty would not tolerate them if they did not serve a purpose and that purpose is judgement. "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

[@edwardbanda6018]

What was once of angels who had fallen, can no longer glory in the house of God, they are not angels...they are demon.

[@redit5332]

Their status is temporary only. Jesus work on the cross says it all. I sleep easier knowing.

[@julioluisveve905]

Satan and his fallen angels know their destiny. They know that Jesus is going to trash them into the Eternal Lake of Fire. This is why demons asked Jesus, "And suddenly they cried out, saying, “What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?” -Matthew 8:29. So Satan and his minions definitely know that they are going to be eternally punished by God and their only purpose is to fool as many humans as they can to take them to the Lake of Fire with them. This is their insult to God. To rob as many souls as possible.

[@bradleywolfe1188]

If one sole is lost and separated from God Lucifer wins.

[@Jamie-Russell-CME]

I think Satan knows God has a timeline and there will be no changing that. For Jesus first coming was on the day, necessarily, on time.

[@ironcityblue]

Like a squatter in a beach house. He knows he's going to be evicted but wants as much time there as possible.

[@Vedioviswritingservice]

This has always baffled me. I try to put myself in their position. I think we can all agree these fallen spirits are vastly more powerful and intelligent then we could ever hope to be. If I were in their position I would be looking to marginalize my losses. What do I mean by this? They must understand they have lost and will face final judgement, but the nature of that judgement will surely vary. ie; Satan's judgement will surely be more severe than some low-level imp foot soldier's punishment. I would not be looking to add to my sorrows by continuously doing evil on this earth and corrupting mankind. Fallen Angels still have free will. They can still make choices. Yes, redemption may be closed to them, but the retribution they ultimately face is within their control. Rational intelligent creatures would seek to minimize the punishments. If the answer is that they are now enslaved evil and can do nothing else, does that not in of itself sort of mitigate their actions? Yes, they are made the wrong choice in following Lucifer, but all their subsequent actions really in their control?

[@gheffz]

Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short. Rev 12:12 And suddenly they cried out, saying, “What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?” Matt 8:29

[@Brian_L_A]

The verse Dr. Heiser was looking for: 2 Peter 3:12waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God. On that day the heavens will be set on fire and destroyed, and the elements will melt in the intense heat. If we can hasten the day of God, then with Satan hindering us, we can push it out. Satan's whole purpose is pushing out judgement day.

[@Truthster772]

Just based on the title, I say yes. They do think they can win. It’s the ultimate narcissist. As Satan has already made his declarations. That alone sets the mind set.

[@stjohnssoup]

It depends how you define victory. Not to destroy God but to keep army in the field.

[@johnnyb2799]

Amen!!!

[@Daniel24445]

Isaiah 24:21-22 is the answer along with those who usurp The Throne of God and His Son. All Kabbalists will be with them.

[@whateverjones5473]

"...they know they can't defeat God. They're not idiots". They must have thought so at one time, or this would never have started.

[@hummingbird_saltalamakia]

To the fallen; The war is lost Yet The daily battles rage on We are the targets. Spiritual warfare has been at hand. It is a struggle. We're in for the fight of our lives. When you're a threat to evil, through our savior, Yeshua Ha'Mashiach Aka (jesus the messiah) The demons, and the fallen ma'lakh learn of you. They know who you are. And they will be attacking at all times, whenever they can. Even a moment of weakness or letting your guard down is all they need. That is why we're meant to be in continuous prayer to Adonai (The Lord) My sins have been plentiful. I have fallen, I have tried to hide, I have turned away and sinned against God more times than I can count. I do not deserve God's mercy or grace I don't think I even deserve forgiveness. I have faith in Adonai Just none in myself. I will fail You of that I'm sure. I will remind You of the pain forever more. I will try. And do my best to not slip or fall into sin. Living with sin is the easiest thing in the world to do, and satan will do everything to make sure you have a pretty easy life so long as you're not looking to God at all. I have toiled for many years and never felt the cost. I know I will stand before Adonai and account for every sin I've committed, every wicked thought, every foolish choice I will be judged. My sins will probably be in the millions. For I have led an unclean life. Never forget, God saw the end, even in beginning, God saw just how many times each and every one of us would sin And despite that, Elohiym still gave us Yeshua Ha'Mashiach. He who died on the cross for us. A sacrifice from God, for us, in the hopes that no one would fall. I feel sick to my stomach for sinning against Him, knowing this and knowing what I've done, even today I have sinned.. I would rather wake up blind than to ever sin again. God declared us worthy and deserving when He was sacrificed. It's hard to see ourselves as worthy and deserving sometimes. But the fact is, God proved that God believes we are worthy and deserving. That is what unconditional love is all about. Love God even when you feel God isn't being fair. Lord knows we didn't deserve it outside of that one reason. We certainly aren't fair to God. Countless people hate God, think God is a lie, believe God doesn't exist. And even the ones who do believe sin against God. It's basically to spit in God's face. We should be ashamed. We're trying to force God out of the world, yet God created the world. God built this place for us and we want God to get out? We are all the way out of our damn minds. We *NEED* God God does not need us God *WANTS* us We need to want God I know this was really long, if you've read this far I truly and sincerely hope God is in your life. I pray that God keeps you and blesses you always. I have lived such a blessed life despite my short comings, failures, sins, transgressions and ignorance. Toda la'El that I've gotten this far Toda raba, Elohiym for all the help you've given me. Bless You, Adonai Blessed is Adonai I pray for the salvation of the lost and wicked souls. For the souls of the unsure and lukewarm For the souls who know You and for Israel Peace in Jerusalem. I hope and pray for Forgiveness, grace, mercy, Wisdom, discernment, protection, guidance For myself and any whom come across this, their loved ones, and their loved ones loved ones. Forgive us of our trespasses. Let no one be left behind. May Adonai bless us, help us, and keep us forever and ever. God bless

[@brentphillips7297]

I think to really answer this question on what they plan to do, is to understand that when Satan lured one third of the angels to rebel against God, they did so knowing that God who could kill them instantyy be He could not do so because the heavy loses to heavenly government. that's what they counted on. that God could not get rid of them. but surprize surprize, God created Adam and Eve, this frightened them terribly for they knew that when He got the same number of humans to replace the number of fallen angels their time would be up and would be cast down to earth and then into the lake of fire. Satan and his angels are on the defensive and have been on the defensive since the day Adam was made. their only motive for which they are working night and day, is for either thwarting or deceiving or killing as God-believers as possible is to prevent that number being reached. There is one, very obscure verse in Revelation which alludes to this very thing of the scene in heaven and God is finishing counting up every God-believer who ever lived until that replacement number is fulfilled: "And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, SHOULD BE FULLFILLED."

[@strohdog242]

God couldn't kill all the rebellious angels because of too many losses toheavenly government?? And God needed to fill the gap with humans?? When the numbers are replenished to original numbers then the end will come?? Where in the world do you get this from...not from the bible. You just make up whatever sounds logical to you??

[@monthc]

I think it's just pettiness. It's observable in human behavior, why wouldn't fallen angels be similar? If you can't bring yourself up, the only thing to do is try and bring others down to your level. Destroy them like you're destroyed.

[@johnkoenig326]

Do fallen angels believe in fictional beings like you do?