Curtis Yarvin - In The Philosopher - "YOUR WELCOME" with Michael Malice

[@mattmullenix]

Condolences to the Yarvin family

[@AngelWest58]

indeed

[@AngelWest58]

@Butt Munch April 2021 --Jennifer Kollmer, 50, passed away yesterday in San Francisco, leaving a husband of 47 and children of 10 and 13, nine years after her diagnosis with the hereditary cardiomyopathy (ARVC) which claimed her father at 31. In lieu of flowers or weird, inappropriate emails, Jen would appreciate a donation to Delancey Street (read about them here ).

[@AngelWest58]

She was his wife

[@trevorfernandes102]

Appreciate MM asking Curtis to talk about her and appreciate how they pivoted when he realizes he’s still not ready to talk about her. Beautiful exchange all things considered.

[@paulfroelich1024]

Seriously, and the "I decided to become a philosopher thing" was hilarious.

[@jsong8282]

On leftist sympathy: Doestoyevsky wrote: “The more I love humanity in general, the less I love man in particular”

[@NothingHumanisAlientoMe]

Jesus "i am the truth the way and the light" Banter man "aye very good, turn ma water intay wine"

[@ShinSheel]

Dostoevsky was a real genius on dark corners of human soul and generally things we are not proud of to think

[@peanutgallery7753]

Where did he write that, Notes from Underground?

[@jsong8282]

@@peanutgallery7753 it’s from Brother Karamazov

[@NothingHumanisAlientoMe]

Born to be wild

[@perguto]

​Seeing Yarvin in more than potato quality feels surreal​

[@danwroy]

Not yet

[@stnkold316]

And not saying umm every 5th word is a relief

[@rawselectmusic4395]

@@stnkold316 he seems far more relaxed here than he did in his other potato cam conversations with Malice

[@dirtypure2023]

@@danwroy Then when?

[@rawselectmusic4395]

@@moomoocowsly a friend of mine said the same thing. I didn’t know about that myself until the end of the conversation.

[@TheAed38]

This episode could be 10 hours long and I'd still watch the whole thing.

[@donotfreeze]

Why watch? You can just listen to it.

[@james5637]

@@donotfreeze Why just listen when you can push your face against the speaker and *feel* it 🤷‍♂️

[@TKRDRJ]

Felt like ten minutes

[@lisar.2549]

Well said.

[@sebastianprimomija8375]

Its always a treat to hear from Curtis Yarvin, a man can bare only so much bland "right-wing" Neoconservatism without crying.

[@withnail-and-i]

Follow the trail of Yarvin and you'll never have to watch the Shapiro/Knowles/Fox purveyors of banality. Interesting right-wing Yarvin has appeared on: - Free Man Beyond the Wall (amazing podcast); -Subversive w/ Alex Kaschuta -The American Mind pocast -David Gornoski - Things Hidden Other podcasts: -Philosophy of Art & Science (which is Ethiopia centric, but oh-so interesting for the western mind) -Unregistered with Thaddeus Russell (guy is a leftist but invites renegades from all fields, more interesting than the establishment media).

[@mysteryman6918]

I have a playlist with every one of his appearances

[@Vingul]

@@withnail-and-i did you hear him on Hyperpodcastism? Guy made a fool of himself there.

[@withnail-and-i]

@@Vingul Gotta say I haven't, but I will! I'm not an avid follower of Moldbug, but I've found that he discusses tradition in interesting ways when he's in the good setting; come for Moldbug stay for the show.

[@josephpalatnik1792]

@@withnail-and-i his appearance on the hermitix podcast is very good as well

[@mememagician97]

My only complaint is that there isn't more of it - I could listen to Yarvin and Malice talk for hours.

[@pod9363]

Them going back and forth is incredible.

[@willosee]

Absolutely.

[@CloverPickingHarp]

I mean he could replace Smith and that would be a HUGE win.

[@svperuzer]

@@CloverPickingHarp I like Smith. I don't think Curtis would want the position though. He seems like he likes to stay under the radar

[@TransRoofKorean]

I know he wants to stay under the radar, but the problem is, strict hour limits really make a lot of conversations feel cut extremely short. But of course, with these guys, they've spent a couple hours talking before the start, and likely will spend a couple more talking after... they don't feel as shorted as we do.

[@555Trout]

Glad to see Curtis plowing along after losing his wife. He's a very strong man. There is no harder blow then to lose your wife with young children to raise . Keep him in your thoughts and prayers.

[@teoteo3522]

he is so strong he is already looking for a replacement...

[@burritodog3634]

@@teoteo3522 source?

[@dannyhightower911]

@@burritodog3634 lol he has multiple substacks almost immediately after he death advertising that he wants a new young wife

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

Danny, wow. If true, gross. But typical. Partner with your own age. And he thinks he will, what? Get with a woman who has no children? LMFAO. Nope. Dude is looking at a blended family. Time for him to man up and recognize. Women are known for waiting after a male partner dies, out of respect and grief. Men jump right out there and look for something they see as an upgrade... Which is really just someone who is easier to prey on. This is especially true for men because they cannot bear to be the single parent. Sure, they get all this crazy praise for it, unlike how single mothers get slammed for their status, but the praise wears off fast and they need someone else to do the heavy lifting. Men don't want to pay attention to children all day and they don't want to hire a nanny. So they set to work sniffing women's asses. Pathetic.

[@AlanGarciaC.1093]

Wow... he is the smartest and most fascinating thinker that I didn't even knew existed 2 hours ago. I love what he said about 'not being allergic' or not having an emotional reaction to a system of ideas. It is so rare to find someone who can analyze stuff objectively without tainting it with some a priori moral judgement.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

It's called autism, man. Shit works.

[@juanme555]

@@carpathianhermit7228 At which point? Queen Victoria reigned for 63 Years , and around the 1860's what you just said wouldn't have happened like you said.

[@Cajlenos]

another one bites the dust

[@rpjswish]

He's intriguing for sure, but feel for the sake of integrity I must have brain, heart and body aligned.. or thought, feeling and action. Discernment.

[@AlanGarciaC.1093]

@@rpjswish I'm okay with a-posteriori judgements. But you can't really understand something if you approach it in a judgemental way. Description > prescription.

[@DrProgNerd]

I had such a positive reaction to Yarvin using the word 'fags' - unapologetically - that it actually caught me off guard. I realized it was because I was listening to someone who was just being authentic - instead of parroting the same virtue-signaling nonsense. I'll take 'ugly-words' and truth over 'safe-words' and drivel any day of the week.

[@illex759]

It's a perennial favorite in my house. I said it as a kid, now my young teenagers say it. Never irt a gay person, either.

[@memesofproduction27]

REPORTED jk

[@sirmount2636]

“I would have never called him that if I knew. You don't call retarded people retards. It's bad taste. You call your friends retards when they're acting retarded. And I consider Oscar a friend.” -Michael Scott

[@tophan5146]

@@sirmount2636 LOL

[@TopShelfTheology]

Damn auto correct of "conscience." And I can't edit the post because it went up with a thoughtcrime word in it.

[@leslietaylor6375]

"Paris Syndrome" was first used to describe symptoms experienced by young Japanese females on holiday in the French capital. The idea is that the gap between the idealised Paris they had in their heads and the reality they encountered triggered mild to severe psychiatric symptoms. Some had to be hospitalised.

[@burritodog3634]

wow

[@jonathanhamel]

wat

[@aristocraticrebel]

They had the image of Brigitte Bardot's Paris in their minds. Instead they got a city that increasingly looks like Lagos.

[@troymalone8711]

@@aristocraticrebel LOL. That would be a shock.

[@gustavocvieira8584]

Watching too many movies lol

[@xlasingx]

..Michael.. ..bring back Curtis!! ..this was an absolute treat..

[@12yearoldscotch]

Started reading all of Yarvin’s stuff, can’t put it down.

[@Scott-qo1eq]

Yep I’m the same. Just read everything he’s ever written and now I’m giving it a second read.

[@captainradio5894]

Same this morning I read every word he’s ever typed and tonight I’m going to watch every podcast interview he’s even been mentioned in.

[@mysteryman6918]

Just be aware you’ll never be the same person again.

[@mysteryman6918]

@@captainradio5894 Kudos if you truly read all of both Gray Mirror and Unqualified Reservations in one morning :)

[@soldatenderrgottes1005]

@@captainradio5894 rru?

[@coreyworthingtonii9230]

That thing Yarvin mentions about having order and feeling safe in Japan is 100% true. My gf is Japanese and when I’ve been there in the past, just walking down the street at night feels like walking down the street during the day here. Feels like the socially safest place on earth.

[@coreyworthingtonii9230]

On the other hand, when I’ve walked around China in the day (only once), I felt like it was only a matter of time until someone would come up to me asking me for money or trying to scam me. Interesting comparison.

[@nulltheworm]

I'm always curious of people's experiences and impressions while traveling. I've felt incredible safe in many Eastern European cities. Budapest, Ljubljana, Bratislava, Brasov, and so on. I've felt completely terrified in parts of American (and Canadian) cities. There are huge sections of Philadelphia, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, and Houston that I would never go at any time of day. I've learned to avoid many neighborhoods in Toronto at night time. Usually you're safer if you fit in. If you look like you belong. I've had all sorts of people speak their local language to me in parts of Europe. I'm a pale skin white man with short red hair and blue eyes. I've been racially harassed in American cities. But then in Asia, where no one would ever assume that I'm a local... I've felt mostly safe. Except for the occasional scammer. I've been in the shady market areas of Bangkok and Ho Chi Minh. Other than prostitutes or someone trying to hustle a few extra dollars out of me for some item or another, I've never been bothered. But yet... very nearly everyone that I've ever spoken to said that they're treated with respect in Japan. That they always felt safe, and were never harassed walking down the street. I'm planning on finally getting to Japan after Covid, in part to experience it for myself.

[@coreyworthingtonii9230]

@@nulltheworm Yeah man, it’s hard to explain the feeling in Japan. But pretty much everyone has some like accountability to the social norms there. So the feeling I had walking down the street at night was like that it would be considered rude for someone to harass you or try to swindle you. Completely different in China where I felt it was more of a cut throat environment and people were just out to make a buck. I’ve been to Japan 3 times though, and I only spent a day in China, so maybe people have other experiences. I felt Thailand very friendly and safe. Even though most people there are poor and a lot don’t speak English, people were generally friendly and accepting. I’ve been as Far East in Europe as Prague, and I generally found that to be a nice city. Overall, Europe is nice and friendly (except for the regular local homeless and beggars). I hate to say it, the only time I felt unsafe in Europe was around some of the African migrants. 😬

[@walesdoesntsuck6635]

Stop racemixing

[@maximusmeridius5705]

I have a feeling its a combination of a >90% conviction rate along with, from what I’ve heard, the Yakuza won’t allow low level crime as it hurts businesses they make money off of. That’s not to safe Japan has always been super safe, there were a lot of teenage biker gangs in the ‘80s and fights between them.

[@christianarnold9620]

Yarvin is an insanely informed guest. Nobody should discount him based on a cursory google search. Good on you Michael to keep him as a guest and friend. His ideas need to be heard in terms of dialectic!

[@JaelaOrdo]

Looks like I’m staying up later than I planned tonight

[@GodsOwnPrototype]

Mentions 'Paris Syndrome', (which at least started as a Japanese thing rather than Chinese but may have expanded), but never explains what it is. Which is that due to the painful contrast between expectation and reality several tourists a year just go catatonic and need an embassy member to come get them and put them on the first flight home.

[@tophan5146]

Wow

[@NothingHumanisAlientoMe]

Imagine reaching heaven and be like... "God, brah...is that it?"

[@moebel303]

well, one must understand, that millions of Asian tourist visit Paris each year, one to three get this syndrome. many think its a just a travel syndrome that might happen wherever you go. google Jerusalem syndrome :)

[@esterhudson5104]

My first reaction to Paris exactly.😆

[@marccas10]

18:20 This is exactly the reason for White flight from London. About 2 million English have cashed out and taken little Tarquil and Tabatha to the Cotswolds or the home counties. They say it's for "more space for the kids" but they stop being hipsters and realize they were prepared to "dodge the mamba's" but can't abide the thought of their children having to.

[@realitywins9020]

"better schools" is another excuse they use...

[@AE-xb9uw]

The addict harbors the shame while their enabler harbors a self righteous sense of pride. Both hate anyone who seeks to hold them accountable (at least until they're ready). Because the enabler see their sickness as a virtue they are nigh impossible to reach. Untempered compassion ultimately does more harm than good. In my experience, if you confront an enabler on their behavior, first they will say "WHAT ABOUT YOU?" and, if you persist beyond that, they will play the victim.

[@Drewbie176]

Speaking as both a reformed addict and a reformed enabler, I think this is quite cogent.

[@paintbender1503]

Speaking as a person who doesn't offer up any identifiers to strangers, it seems like many narcissists demonstrate the same pattern. Their "go-to" is to blame others for the things they themselves are guilty of doing.

[@darthbiscuit]

Why fix someone's problem when you can extract attention and gratitude for a lifetime? Reminds me of munchausen by proxy

[@yodythewoadie]

@@paintbender1503 but there was inherently an identifier in the subject of your very first sentence. Dopamine and serotonin are inversely correlated as evident by their relationship with the hormone prolactin, and this is the basis of understanding altruism, God, cancer, among other things.

[@Romulan64]

HELL TO THE YEAH. MOLDBUG, FATHER OF THE REAL DISSIDENT RIGHT. You're doing the Lord's work here, Michael. Thank you as always. 👍

[@dirtypure2023]

This pod was the micropenis of the Lord's work.

[@brewmastermonk9356]

Puh-lease

[@Pau11Wa11]

According to Yurvin’s etymological breakdown of the “Lord,” this podcast is a proverbial loaf of bread. Thanks, Michael!

[@Varlwyll]

The man! The OG! One of 5 people on the planet who ACTUALLY has a dissident opinion!

[@carterghill]

Who are the other 4?

[@goldfishy]

@@carterghill THE ARISTOCRATS!!

[@IvorMektin1701]

Sheath™ Underwear preferred by philosophers everywhere.

[@mesasone2280]

They’ve got a pouch for your philosopher’s pipe and another, separate pouch for your philosopher’s stones

[@tophan5146]

@@mesasone2280 🏅

[@SuperAwesomeHobo]

When micheal said "we are running out of time, what has been..." I almost gasped. JUST 1 HOUR!?! you could have him on every day for a year and I still wouldn't have enough

[@skraminc]

michael needs to really work on his autistic scheduling. he had alex jones on and things didn't start really rolling until 40 minutes in which leaves 15 minutes of spectacular content. do two hours. do three hours. why is he constraining himself to 58 minutes? you can do 10 hours if things are going well. very strange why he's so strict on doing weekly or biweekly podcasts which end up being 4 hours out of his entire month.

[@reactionarydm]

@@skraminc Agreed. Very irritating. I'll happily listen to more of his ads in exchange for more content. I even feel like this sort of content is incredibly easy to produce- Yarvin just goes.

[@jackiverson1545]

@@skraminc I think this could be a GAS Digital issue. Michael appears happy to go longer for his own livestreams, so I'd be surprised if he's the driving force behind the 1hr episode length cap. The issue is probably studio / production time as the bottleneck.

[@sherryberry776]

I listened/watched this twice today mostly because the first time I listened I was playing a game and missed a ton of shit! This is such a great interview! Also My heart goes out to Yarvin for his wife’s passing. One of my favorite and most intelligent friends passed away last week and it’s absolutely tragic watching a young person die. It’s even more difficult and unfair when they leave behind a husband or wife. 😔

[@Swansong32]

Longing for this to start! Once you dig down as far as Yarvin all other political discussions seem pedestrian.

[@Confucius_76]

Peter Hitchens is pretty good, although his scope is smaller than MM's

[@NothingHumanisAlientoMe]

@@carpathianhermit7228 Domesticated? I dunno, I think he accepts he is a mere human in a corrupt world. Not everyone can be a cosmopolitian juggler of political reality.

[@emZee1994]

Couldn't have said it better myself. After reading Moldbug I feel that there is no one else to read. He has ruined me for all others 😂

[@Mooxieclang]

Jesus that really got to me when he started to choke up when Michael brought up his wife, Rest in Peace

[@cannedeals]

Before this episode, I never thought I wanted to see Micheal and Curtis do philosophy together.

[@gregthebaritone]

I saw that the Unsafe Space channel is doing it's monthly book club this Sunday and has chosen as its book, The Anarchist Handbook. They invite people to sign up prior to join with them in the review. It would be a good prank if MM showed up, particularly if he could pull off disguising his look and voice. Another option would be something like the Marshall McLuhan scene in Annie Hall, where he steps in on a friend's stream.

[@withnail-and-i]

Is that a good outlet to follow? Never heard of it before

[@gregthebaritone]

@@withnail-and-i I really like the show. It depends on what you are interested in. There is a large crossover audience with Triggernometry, which is unfortunate, because one or two days a week their streams overlap. If you like Triggernometry, there would be a good chance you would like this. The channel consists of Carter Laren, who is an atheist and an AnCap, and Keri Smith (now Garcia, who has done a number of interviews on other channels). Keri is an ex-SJW who went from woke to awake and quit her career as a manager for comedians. She also rediscovered her Christian roots. The channel mostly explores the issues in the progressive movement, but through a wide range of opinions that are primarily against it, and there is a bit of an emphasis on fostering acceptance of differences of opinion, as long as these differences allow for an open and civil discussion. On occasion, but not often, the show turns a little preachy for me, but I'm certain that for religious types, they would be equally annoyed by the occasions when the topics turn to atheism.

[@J2thaAMES1]

@@gregthebaritone Thank you for taking the time to write that synopsis here. I appreciate it and am going to check the channel out because of it.

[@withnail-and-i]

@@gregthebaritone I haven't heard of either the channels, but now I'm curious, I'll look up the Malice review. I concur with the previous sentiment, thanks a lot for the conteztualization!

[@juanme555]

My most anticipated content in YT.

[@theulysses7236]

“HD Moldbug isn’t real, he cannot hurt you.”

[@maryturula7620]

Curtis will roll with ANY joke, and for that I love him.

[@jimoconnor4766]

This needed to be three hours long. Michael was able to keep Curtis from wandering too far afield, or maybe not but it worked better than other interviews where Curtis loses the topic. Always interesting but sometimes I wanted to see where the main thread was going.

[@mysteryman6918]

One hour is just too short. Moldbug needs 2-4 hours to really get going.

[@theguy9067]

@Aaron Dickson To*

[@nathanc1496]

With Tucker’s recent love profession for Yarvin and now this, the priesthood will set their target beams up to 11 for moldbug

[@Paul-A01]

@@Ones_Complement he mentioned him by name on his paywalled show.

[@diogynees5725]

Thats fucking based

[@spencersperle8441]

Like tucker carlson?

[@captainradio5894]

Moldbug gets little mentions here and there by big names but he’s still, thankfully, off the radar.

[@mysteryman6918]

@@captainradio5894 they can’t really comprehend him

[@Lakoda26]

The discussion around empathy cannot be over stated. The point that is often lost is that acting on true empathy is responsibility. A lot of people who seem to lack empathy are often wise enough to recognize they cannot (or do not) want the responsibility of their involvement in the lives of others.

[@cf6713]

I made this point to MM on Twitter before I was excommunicated. He was railing against sympathy which I agree with and brought up the seemingly related but beneficial empathy. I don’t know if he disagreed or was bringing eyes to what I said in his own way but he hit me with a “no” to which I got dog piled. The empathy argument is art of war Jesus level I brought you a sword shit. Know your enemy. Love them as you love yourself.

[@alecbrantley1298]

This was fantastic. The world needs more Yarvin, and Michael was great as a "carrier" for the conversation. Great back & forth.

[@RoyalistKev]

The course in order: 1. Open Letter 2. Gentle Introduction 3. Moldbug on Carlyle 4. GrayMirror

[@benjamintreitz1647]

You forget "how Dawkins got pwned" ;)

[@pablerdo]

Patchwork too

[@fenrisunbound8891]

"Technology, Communism, and the Brown Scare" is the cherry on top of UR before moving on to Gray Mirror. Open Letter is probably what I would consider the most important work, but TCBS is my favorite. Really compact and dense little red pill.

[@Scott-qo1eq]

Moldbug on Carlyle is my favourite. The second chapter where he debunks libertarianism is awesome

[@RoyalistKev]

@@Scott-qo1eq Yes

[@RandomGuy1606]

An Anarchist and a Machiavellian walk into a bar

[@KrepsyK]

They practice "philosophy"

[@sirmount2636]

@@KrepsyK Only once. They’re not Keynesians!

[@umerjavednisar]

@Danny Archer 22:20

[@essiotll]

Beautiful banter! The inter-foreplay between these philosophers, sublime.

[@sheriffbigdog9671]

Everyone wants more Malice-Yarvin.

[@Bobble29667]

Everything post Michael bringing up the passing of Yarvin’s wife, her memory, and his tear jerking reaction is fucking incredible. His wife still brings the absolute best out of him and it’s so beautiful.

[@Scott-qo1eq]

I almost thought I was all alone in the world until I stumbled across Moldbug’s writings and found someone who could articulate brilliantly everything I had ever thought about the world!

[@tophan5146]

I felt the same way about Jordan Peterson. I was interested in Jungian psychology AND christianity (as an nonbeliever) etc for years prior to discovering him. People who only know him from reacting to SJW or self-help are missing out, go back and check out his old university lectures or bible studies. Speaking of brilliance, if you’re interested in Stalin - check out a historian Kotkin! I binge watched all his videos after his podcast on Lex. If you like Moldbug you won’t be disappointed! He also does historical and sometimes modern geopolitics.

[@Scott-qo1eq]

@@tophan5146 Yes I like Jordan Peterson’s stuff and also have an interest in Jungian psychology (having done a lot of psychedelics I shifted from atheism to paganism). But he’s a bit too “trad con” for my liking and trad cons are part of the reason we’re in the mess we’re in right now in my opinion.

[@tophan5146]

@@Scott-qo1eq What do you mean by that exactly? What are some examples of things you disagree with him on?

[@NothingHumanisAlientoMe]

@@Scott-qo1eq "he's too trad con" That is a low resolution description there bucko, could ya flesh it out ...like ah, like uh roughly speaking seperate the wheat from the chaff there to arrive at a more optimal schema of interperation...SO, anyway Dostoevsky...

[@Scott-qo1eq]

@@NothingHumanisAlientoMe I do like a lot of what JP says, particularly about hierarchies and his criticisms of postmodern leftism but he is essentially totally “blue pill”. Whilst I’m not an atheist per se I’m also not a huge fan of Christianity (as I’m somewhat of a Nietzschean) which he clearly is. If you’ve read Moldbug you’ll probably know that progressivism is essentially Christianity without God. It had caused men to have no boundaries with women and has contributed towards what is destructive 4th wave feminism. Just a few initial thoughts.

[@actualphysicalkelp]

Always a good time when 2 philosophers get going!

[@grinderswitch9107]

Yarvin is totally correct on NYC. I was just there and felt the same. It’s even worse in rust belt cities. It’s code red fight or flight just walking downtown.

[@trevor5834]

Damn you Malice and your consistent schedule of posting at 11pm! How am I supposed to waste these next 9 hours???? Being a productive member of society?

[@Paul-A01]

You know better than that. Use that time to troll people on twitter.

[@skdjirrrdjdm3926]

Just found Yarvin and wow! Incredibly thought provoking. Thanks for having the balls to have him on Michael!

[@AWSKAR]

I am very much looking forward to your next conversation with Mr. Yarvin.

[@TheApple411]

He’s actually much better at interviewing in person. Fantastic video!

[@huskypup3489]

First time hearing Curtis. His takes are spot on. I'll have to check out more of his work. Well done

[@topman8565]

Guess I'm adding another 100 books to my list tn

[@qwertasdfg3447]

This needs to happen again. This guy is brilliant

[@madisonromero3529]

It takes a lot 1) to make me laugh out loud 2) feel enlightened by new info. This video gave me both. Thanks Michael and Curtis.

[@IvorMektin1701]

"The parson was a grammarian and therefore could see farther into the future than the rest of us." -JRR Tolkien

[@Vingul]

I’d just like to point out that that’s not a direct (verbatim) quote, moreover it’s basically a joke in «Farmer Giles of Ham», not a stated opinion of Tolkien’s.

[@konberner170]

"...what's being stroked there [with abstract sympathy] is their ambition. Because essentially what you are saying when you help someone else, is that you create power over them." Great!! So important, I'd rank this as the key to understanding nearly all of political philosophy.

[@konberner170]

Here at least We shall be free; th' Almighty hath not built Here for his envy, will not drive us hence: Here we may reign secure, and in my choyce To reign is worth ambition though in Hell: Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav'n.

[@stevem815]

As long as you remember it's 'abstract sympathy' (ie a specific category) he's talking about and don't try to spin it into an excuse to be a dick. It's oversimplified too, even on a personal level displays of sympathy and charity often function in the same way, in some places it's still the basic social structure, like the tribal 'big man' system that operates in places like Papua. So the 'abstract' qualifier isn't really a safe indicator of the quality of the sympathy. I think a better way to think about it is to measure the selflessness of the sympathetic act. It's one of the fundamental qualities of charity that Jesus talks about (don't worry I'm not a Christian), basically that whatever worldly reward for charity you take on yourself cancels out the act in the eyes of god. It's a built in shield against virtue signaling and other exploitation of the social mechanisms that encourage selflessness. That's the active ingredient, not whether the sympathy is abstracted or not.

[@konberner170]

@@stevem815 Did you listen to his quote, or are you being a dick and even more so by calling me one when you are wrong?

[@stevem815]

@@konberner170 I'm not calling anyone a dick, seems like you're the only one who's done that so far.

[@Adam-tp8py]

Can confirm. Left iPad on train to Kyoto. Got it back at Shin Osaka 1.5 hours later.

[@asisbusi]

KEEP. BRINGING. THE. HEAT.

[@MarchelloMastrayani]

“Sorry, we keep getting back into philosophy” 😂😂😂☠️

[@Rzepik]

The homosexual tension was too much. It was the second gayest thing I've seen on the internet.

[@MarchelloMastrayani]

@@Rzepik are you repressing some deep philosophical thoughts?

[@sirmount2636]

@@Rzepik Tension? It was open.

[@brandnew4451]

This guy is super smart, great guest MM!

[@adarax1]

Need more time with Yarvin

[@georgelynch7047]

I’d suggest to take notes during this. That’s of course if you’re ready to go down rabbit hole after rabbit hole. Oh and something to help the red pills go down easier than a philosopher at an Egyptian brothel.

[@HeloIV]

Curtis looking chadder than usual in the thumbnail

[@CemKumral]

I always want more when I watch Yarvin

[@hollisarkham]

The most interesting thing about Yarvin is how he pays fealty to contemporary and historical narratives he knows aren't true so he can keep a seat at the table in polite society. "Based ruling class nerd makes good for the plebs". Embodied philosophy

[@Milligan777]

I smiled when Malice said he hadn't seen "Hilter Lives". You just knew Yarvin couldn't wait to talk about it.

[@noyesharrigan6217]

These guys work great together. They are developing a good chemistry.

[@F1r3w4t3r]

CANT WAIT!!!!

[@abyss87walker]

I’ve been waiting for this one. I find Yarvin’s ideas fascinating

[@sickboy4029]

The Sith Lord & Mr. Anarchy!? Can’t wait to hear another great conversation between these two.

[@philipmacfarland7860]

Your transition to the Sheath ad was perfectly timed

[@95MAFS]

Great material. Excellent interview!!!

[@TheApple411]

I hope Lex sees this and has Curtis on his show

[@hhhhippo]

I don't, cause I'm a selfish hipster. If the plebs hear Curtis he isn't cool anymore. Curtis not loving cathedral becoming mainstream is the same feeling. But good ideas unfortunately spread to the undeserving, myself included.

[@TheApple411]

@@hhhhippo I doubt the plebs would become monarchists, but it would be an interesting exposition of his ideas. He might not even want to do it, but I’d still enjoy hearing it

[@sydneysimon7112]

Such an amazing conversation

[@MAGAeminem]

33:32 Next time someone says you can't make a funny WWII joke, I will point them here 😆 That was quick wit worthy of a stand-up comedian.

[@marshalforward8166]

The great Curtis Yarvin!

[@NorthenTasawwuf]

Awesome! Thank you for introducing me to Curtis Yarvin! As a meat head on the side of working with philosophy (in the real sense, not the implied one in this discussion 😉), it's a bonus that he sounds like Jay Cutler 😀

[@harter517]

The two best history teachers on this planet.

[@bridgebum826]

One of the rare instances where Malice is the less interesting person in a one-on-one conversation.

[@tophan5146]

@@zootsoot2006 it was sort of charming lol Despite often ruining the punchline for Yarvis

[@marialiyubman]

That was fascinating. This is what political history class SHOULD be!

[@ramia1289]

happy to see mr yarvin, my condolences to him.

[@OblateSpheroid]

Thank you for your work.

[@uGotGot1618]

1:00:19 Michael's joke in the background here was so subtle but so savage! I literally laughed out loud alone in the car

[@mytruthslays1303]

Bahahahahaha I didn't catch that! Well done.

[@contekozlovski]

What does he say? Assuming he's not fat?

[@aliertufekci1993]

"Assad must go" Instructions unclear; ended up funding ISIS

[@cranmore2]

I rarely laugh out loud at a podcast, but there were many laugh out loud moments in this podcast.

[@doctorbritain9632]

So sorry to hear about Mr Yarvin's wife, sincere condolences.

[@rustycage]

this guy sounds like louie ck

[@buttholesurfer1266]

Lmao rusty didnt expect you here

[@TopShelfTheology]

For the record, and I said this elsewhere... I lost my job about a month before Curtis' wife died. I couldn't afford the Gray Mirror Grift at the time, and I cried at every post for a month. When I finally landed a job 3 months later, I spent part of my first paycheck on a donation to Delancey Street. Then subscribed to Gray Mirror with the change.

[@Nexus-hh1lx]

After watching I ordered "The Red Decade" Lyons and when I opened the book to chapter 1 "In Defense of Red Baiting" I laughed for five minutes.

[@djkymaera]

A philosopher is a degenerate driving the speed limit.

[@Hooga89]

And Curtis Yarvin is Ben Shapiro just with 1 standard deviation higher IQ.

[@exmachina2600]

lmao

[@minasamir3161]

THIS IS GONNA BE EPIC!!!

[@cdcaleo]

Michael should have Yarvin on once a month to do a general discussion of current events. It would be awesome, and necessary.

[@SuperAntichicken]

I read the whole open letter, it was illuminating

[@floridaman3823]

Michael Malice has two questions answered in an hour! a new record!

[@danwroy]

33:41 Honestly impressive

[@nsh1980]

That underwear ad was perfectly timed

[@henry8628]

An Anarchist and a Monarchist walk into a bar…

[@Stephen8454]

Man, why have I not heard of Curtis Yarvin before this!?

[@adamhaney9447]

I'd like to think I'm a critical thinker on many historical issues, but some of the things these two are saying (which make so much sense under inspection) are completely foreign to me. Like the idea that the Axis Powers of WW2 never really existed because there was no real cooperation/coordination between Japan and Germany. Geez... Everyday I learn to distrust public education more.

[@Paul-A01]

22:22 so you can listen to the Voltaire story again.

[@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign]

Nice one, wish it had gone much longer. Better when malice does his own stuff

[@sadwookie11]

My very sincere condolences

[@topman8565]

God Bless you micheal

[@youtubearenaziscum7945]

I always say I found Hong Kong very safe. Families were walking around the center late at night with small kids. Very nice place