Michael Malice: Totalitarianism and Anarchy | Lex Fridman Podcast

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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
0:32 - Animal Farm
3:34 - Emma Goldman
6:39 - Albert Camus
8:09 - How to be a hero in Nazi Germany
15:15 - Camus on Existentialism vs Nihilism
21:17 - Cynicism is a lie
26:24 - Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union
46:43 - Lex and Michael argue: can most people think on their own?
58:21 - How Lex and Michael use Twitter
1:07:43 - Life is beautiful
1:10:46 - Returning to Ukraine
1:12:39 - Michael is now an underwear model
1:16:45 - The Anarchist Handbook
1:18:32 - Tolstoy was an anarchist
1:31:14 - Anarchy debate between Lex and Michael
2:00:22 - Why Michael doesn't vote
2:17:37 - Austin and New York
2:26:13 - Alex Jones
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Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Gala Games: gala.games/lex - Indeed: indeed.com/lex to get $75 credit - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - MasterClass: masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off 0:32 - Animal Farm 3:34 - Emma Goldman 6:39 - Albert Camus 8:09 - How to be a hero in Nazi Germany 15:15 - Camus on Existentialism vs Nihilism 21:17 - Cynicism is a lie 26:24 - Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union 46:43 - Lex and Michael argue: can most people think on their own? 58:21 - How Lex and Michael use Twitter 1:07:43 - Life is beautiful 1:10:46 - Returning to Ukraine 1:12:39 - Michael is now an underwear model 1:16:45 - The Anarchist Handbook 1:18:32 - Tolstoy was an anarchist 1:31:14 - Anarchy debate between Lex and Michael 2:00:22 - Why Michael doesn't vote 2:17:37 - Austin and New York 2:26:13 - Alex Jones

[@cuzimaluzer777]

Omg that thumbnail is AMAZING

[@bennyyoungblood]

@@cuzimaluzer777 ain't it

[@bezoznaught5261]

I was actually hoping the whole show was going to be Michael being Lex, interviewing Lex being Michael XD

[@adeshmishra1671]

First video in which the purpose of life is not mentioned..

[@jaseboon6282]

I'm Boxer sadly

[@strawmanfallacy]

This is the best podcast intro ever.

[@sultanofswingdrift3021]

I haven't laughed like this in a long time, thank you both crazy humas

[@DarkSlushie]

He forgot the quick mention of our sponsors though.

[@roymakescomics]

Definitely not the first, certainly the best.

[@red-stapler574]

Anar-cast broke me.

[@SolarHeavy]

so great lmao

[@austinfry3096]

I feel like I finally watched enough of Lex's podcasts that I unlocked new skins...

[@cosmicmuffet1053]

and a hidden miniboss.

[@TwinSyndrome1]

Rosie Skin?

[@noahdennis8445]

This is funny af. ❤️😎❤️ We love you Lex

[@reubanrajan2679]

Haha 😂, same thoughts

[@greenreaper7142]

HAHA!! 🤣

[@MFnDahk]

Lex and malice still make one of the best shows I've ever seen. Stay healthy, we need more like yall.

[@swapticsounds]

Humoristic highlight of this episode: Lex: "Don´t make me put on this hat again" :D As a left but non-fundamentalist anarchist, I felt similarly, or at least, I loved that joke. When the concept of the state gets strawmanned too much I feel the urge to defend something what I actually don´ wanna defend but have differenciated debate about it. (Like the polarised debates as well, when presented with humor, as it is done here) I go with Schmachtenberger´s replies to Lex` questions regarding to that topic complex: Do I criticize the current parlamentary democracy model? Can I imagine it better? Yes. Do I want the state to end abruptly and being replaced by the structural power of private companies? No. Do I have trust that private companies will become smaller and fairer as soon as they are not backed up by the state anymore? No. Would I trust privately payed security services and private arbitral tribunals to be more neutral as current police and judiciary? Absolutely not.

[@MFnDahk]

@@rocketBTW if you didn't enjoy these 2 then it's definitely a you thing, no matter what your mom tells you.

[@Dustin-ux6fl]

​@@rocketBTWwhat's your taste then? Rachel Maddow?

[@jdwar11]

These two gentlemen had one of the best conversations I have ever seen or heard. I like to try and hold any comments until the very end during either of these guys talks so I can really focus and think about what they are actually saying and let it sink in. I am now watching this for the third time in it’s entirety and just blown away with these two.

[@willy8s]

Michael's impression captures Lex's inflection so well, yet overall it's so distinctly Michael.

[@anonony9081]

"Anarcast"

[@dominicklittle9828]

That’s what I was gunna say, I want to see him try to go full lex tho. That would be awesome to have malice host the show even tho he pretty much does without realizing it

[@harrysachs2274]

"Simpleton" lol.

[@erkkiboy]

Laughing so hard at the intro 😊

[@tomn4295]

I love his impressions in his audio book of "the new right".

[@KevinSmith-gw5rk]

Lex: “It was a joke” Michael: “It was a failure” Lex: “There is no triumph without failure” Love you guys

[@greendholia5206]

timestamp?

[@rayuk3939]

15:02

[@moonbear894]

@@greendholia5206 @14:50

[@rossherrington3185]

And the joke Was funny!

[@rivera2030]

That exchange is so typical of people that are really friends, especially men.

[@John_Notmylastname]

I love Lex’s ability to let things sit and be quiet without inserting courtesies mindlessly. Let the moment play out.

[@stevebuffinton1094]

25 min in and I've only been listening to this. When I sat down and looked at the screen and seen their outfits I cracked up with a giddy happiness. Such deep conversation paired with the silliness of these two men is fantastic. And I'm not trying to cast disparaging comments on their heritage in that statement. Being deep, silly, and honoring their heritage was done quite brilliantly. Love it, love these two.

[@ronaldcarrel5388]

Saw

[@wuvs2spooge]

Michael: *crying* Lex: "You appear to have sprung a leak, here is an absorbent square of paper"

[@HugoTron]

what 0:00?

[@imperatorxi]

@@HugoTron 34:05

[@dirtypure2023]

lol thanks for the laugh

[@chrishaa829]

😂🤣😂

[@KevinSmith-gw5rk]

🤣🤣🤣

[@AliBooondok]

The beginning is fucking the best thing that ever has happened.

[@colbybohannan3394]

No, it’s not.

[@yog-sothoth37]

@WorldFlex extremely bad sarcasm and hyperbole * It's disgusting, I agree

[@cozy4920]

@WorldFlex that’s just how we were raised 🤷🏻‍♂️ thank the parents of your generation

[@MicahMicahel]

@@cozy4920 I think it's because you grow up in social media. We never had the self awareness your generations do, so we were able to be more sincere.

[@Pow3llMorgan]

@@eliyahfeld Millenials is a pretty large grouping and constitute people from ages 25 to 40. I would probably be willing to bet they are the largest audience to this podcast. I'm pretty much in the center of the Millenial generation (born '89) and I've been following Lex's podcast keenly since its beginning.

[@jyotiprakashpanda4717]

The moment when Michael asks if he can swear and Lex goes, "Fuck Yes", is podcasting gold. Wow.

[@skinksinthecity]

Lol, agreed. Awesome episode & I most definitely will watch this again.. Malice is a Legend to me, & Lex is incredible as an interviewer/journalist & I am hooked.👍

[@reveilleamerica3589]

Kim Jon ill is a son of a bitch Got the blue balls,crabs, And the seven year itch

[@deepakx7]

yeah it gave me nerd chills

[@afox3096]

Have

[@artigraphmultimedia1489]

Absolutely Riveting. Conversation on human capacity for good, evil, banality, and cruelty. ""That mediocre person with a little bit of power ... " The courage to be weird, heroism with and without martyrdom.. I will hit you up payday Lex. Thank you Thank you ❤️🙏

[@ChrisWillx]

My ears are burning 💜 Big love boys x

[@kennelson5096]

Thank Mr. Malice next time you speak for another subscriber to your podcast. Cheers.

[@0fuxTaken]

Chris, when are you going to play dressup with Michael? 😁

[@S3aCa1mRa1n]

Oh shiiit modern wisdom 😀

[@2CSST2]

Holy crap I hope you could get some water and relieve yourself! Please next time you don't need to comment it on youtube, it's dangerous take care not to burn alive :O

[@kellanaldous7092]

My dyslexia read that as "love big boys"

[@MeticulousTechTV]

I've watched lots of interviews with Michael, and no one quite tempers the troll side of him like Lex does. As a result, his brilliance really shines in these conversations without his obnoxious side overwhelming the conversation. These conversations are the best of Michael and in some ways also the best of Lex, great stuff!

[@inthefade]

Lex also isn't afraid to play along. Just check out the costumes. He is indeed a great foil for Malice, bringing out the best in him. I wouldn't call it tempering, and I absolutely love Michael's trolling, but there is definitely something fantastic about the way these guys interact.

[@phobletera]

It makes Michael too dangerous too soon.

[@VorpalDerringer]

I do like the troll side of Malice, but that is good news, I will make time to listen.

[@MmeO]

Lex brought out a side of Michael I have never seen - his discussion about his grandfather and what his Russian family endured during WW2 - soul crushing.

[@thomasgregson13]

100% agreed !

[@SecondClassCitizen]

Seeing Malice break down caught me completely off guard. He is always so happy.

[@patrickdavidge]

There is only one word that I can use to describe this excellent interview. “Grounding” 🤝

[@petracs1187]

Michael: “can I curse?” Lex: “fuck yes.”

[@FelixDKatz-tb7or]

In his least, but yet still robotic tone.

[@mentalcasanova6420]

You can hear him downloading the vulgarity library.

[@petracs1187]

@@mentalcasanova6420 the best reply

[@NothingHumanisAlientoMe]

@@petracs1187 Neo turn to Morpheus..."I learned the urban dictionary"

[@sageii5614]

Can I speak the truth about Israel? Fuck no. What do you think this is? speaking truth to power?

[@Eyes2theSkies1218]

“The fuckin robot made me cry.” I legitimately laughed out loud and scared my dog 😂😂

[@blacksheepdog9810]

I wonder if he cried just to be able to say that.

[@58frascatti]

Most powerful thing I’ve seen in many years. Gilbert Allardyce, my 1st year history prof in 1968, brought me to the same mental and emotional place. I’ve been a student of history ever since. I’m 78 now, and have viewed the world through the same lens ever since. I’ve been accused of being callous, hard nosed, etc. But the fact is, through years of ups and downs, I’ve never come anywhere near the horrors others have endured. Arendt’s “Origins of Totalitarianism “ made it clear to me how fragile our cushy lives actually are. I see clearly how my country (🇨🇦) is careening into authoritarianism but I have no power to change it’s course. Malice offers the solace of small, personal acts of kindness and humanity. Lines like “…til human voices wake us and we drown”, and “slouching toward Bethlehem “ are more and more meaningful. Meanwhile, spring is on its way, and I consider it my duty to savour each moment.

[@LittleOrla]

What a beautiful, inspiring conversation. Tears in my eyes and a smile on my face throughout. 💕

[@TANGOSVC]

I wish Lex to wear a full adidas tracksuit to his podcast.

[@samanthaqiu3416]

full slav ancap mode

[@jesuud6870]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I would love that

[@Myohomoto]

Full Gopnik

[@akbrooks70]

I grew up with this guy, his dad immigrated from Yugoslavia and ended up owning a few shrimping boats. Their whole family wore nothing but track suits. Even their cousins came over from Yugoslavia in the early 90’s wore nothing but track suits. It was the funniest shit.

[@DBFIU]

Full gopnik!!!!!!!! Do it lex

[@bizarro20daves]

"I've been walking around the house working on my lex impression. I've been leaking motor oil everywhere" lol!

[@JoelNTerry]

Wow, really uplifting stuff from Micheal, usually I love him for his humour and amazing sense of humour but this conversation I found him to be absolutely inspiring and so helpful...Incredible!

[@danepaulstewart8464]

One of the more amazing discussions I have seen between people of this age, possibly ever.

[@foxmulder6602]

And I thought the outfit, where Michael was inversed Lex with white suite, couldn't be trumped xD

[@Xpistos510]

Michael Malice is the guy who will buy DLC expansion packs just for the most ridiculous character skins to view in the cutscenes.

[@Good_Horsey]

Lex is gonna need Alex Jones on for the 300th episode to beat this one.

[@Xpistos510]

@@Good_Horsey Agreed.

[@JerseySlayer]

We should petition both wear Power Armor in episode #250. I guess It's acceptable if Michael dresses as Liberty Prime.

[@itsmorgan10]

Michael doing the intro.... I can already tell I'm going to enjoy this one.

[@Menaceblue3]

When Michael dressed in the white suit, black shirt getup a while back, that was peak humor Now there's Lex playing into the joke as well.... I can't even....😆😂🤣

[@philthedrill2244]

"Michael is a simpleton" 😂😂😂

[@mikejackson8963]

Wish I could finish this... Lex has his moments that are special.

[@kobun6474]

this is such a fantastic dynamic, I absolutely love you two bantering

[@paulpilecki4037]

"...wtf the robot is the one that makes me cry" Couldn't contain myself with that one😂😂😂

[@pqfilmedits]

O s

[@Omnia-ad-gloriam-dei]

I'm watching almost everything from Michael Malice lately.

[@MrMoonFlame]

Same here. I really admire his ability to value personal relationships over political beliefs.

[@southernpoop]

I find myself doing the same.

[@abautistajab]

Same

[@Reblwitoutacause]

One more “same here” from myself.

[@Phoenix-wy3qi]

Me too

[@TheGoodDogTraining]

Thank you for this very special conversation between friends-exchanging ideas and life. 🙏❤️

[@martefact]

This entire conversation describes and explores my childhood experience. The banality of evil is so very very real.

[@jtrich1975]

“The robot made me cry.” Classic….

[@kevalnirgun2720]

This is like dunccan trussell on joe rogan.

[@kslanov]

Lmao right!!👏👏👏

[@sethchyna]

not at all.... comparing Michael to duncan is kinda strange

[@HoLeeFuk317]

No it's not

[@bobbluh9651]

Double loving it

[@Alwayspeaceful556]

But wayyyyyyyyy better!

[@socratesrising]

Lex is not a robot. He's a slow-moving monolith that is so good and making his guests look inward before asking the big questions. Awesome show. A poem for Michael. {Let Goodness Rein} I breathe in the good like my life-force depends on it In a world covered in concrete and hate Good is like a defiant flower rising from the cracks of our many prisons The eye is cut by a world full of right angles Nature is not natural And love is built on a series of well thought out conditions Each new acquaintance is critiqued beyond acceptability and promptly publicly berated for our pride’s personal amusement The echo of our anger is a language in song That only the ‘One True Choir’ can understand Every space is concurred by the socially righteous Policed and purified in their own image Where good is a clever insult or Good is our neighbor’s suffering because the empty soul cries out for their pain Good is the destruction of the things we hate Even if we only hate them because we hated ourselves first In a world searching for the meaning of pain Not Life Good is the spaces between the raindrops that are easily forgotten L E Crane

[@BaseDeltaZero1972]

I know very little about Michael, but his humanity shone through here. Well worth the time to watch (as always)..

[@nem447]

I love Lex. He always looks like a robot trying to learn how to feel emotions. And those uniforms are crack up!

[@jlghinis]

Nah, you should see his speech during ju-jitsu training, the expression and emotive inflection is great. Totally human 😉

[@raznewman7406]

What do you mean “looks like”? He is most definitely a robot 🤪😂

[@mobilegamersunite]

His genius father built himself a robot son 🤖 😂😆😂

[@AdamBerke]

CRACK UP !!!

[@mitch3357]

That intro is too good!! “Michael is an Author, AnnaCast and simpleton.” -

[@samanthaqiu3416]

sorry for the interruption but there is no such thing as annacast OP meant anarchist thanks and good afternoon

[@mitch3357]

@@samanthaqiu3416 starting to think that he also didn’t mean that Michael is a simpleton 🧐 upon closer inspection THAT WAS Michael. Now I’m confused 😝 ✌️❤️

[@n.s.3812]

Came here literally just to read comments about the intro. But then it gets better!! As soon as it cuts to Lex and Malice, Lex is talking about his love for Animal Farm, and I swear he says it's an "Al Gore-y..." (rather than 'allegory') - Damnit, 30 seconds in and I can't stop laughing

[@Ayra_Is_Cool_lol]

@@mitch3357 lmaoo

[@deadliestvice5356]

It's worrying to think that you made up a word of which you didn't know the meaning.

[@tiffanyclay54]

I will never tire of this episode. Best opening ever.

[@fancyshmancy]

Haven't watched this one in awhile. Its one of those you learn something new each time

[@fretpound]

Michael’s impression of Lex was perfect with the exception of one thing: He did not mention love once in the introduction.

[@igrammergood2763]

He didn't even say "beautiful" 😔

[@Saddamuel]

What is love?

[@SecretMarsupial]

Thumbnail made me spit out my drink. First few second had me rolling, this is going to be a great one. Thanks for this gem guys.

[@malihareza4754]

same here man, same here.

[@lizp5004]

Until u get 33:11 🥺🥺🥺

[@MisSkeeto]

I love how playful you two are. It's obvious you are both having fun which makes it fun to listen to. Thank you!

[@brainseagle]

Thank you both for your honesty.Lex I find your conversations well worth the time and attention they require.

[@ryanbryzelak8326]

Lex really pulls off the uniform, great look on him. Michael looks like a a supervillain in a bond movie.

[@annaak7849]

Spot on

[@paladinsmith7050]

😂

[@minttjulep]

The bit about Russia and Ukraine was heart breaking. I’m Ukrainian and Polish. My great grandfather died in Ukraine when a bomb went off on some railroad tracks. So my grandpa and his little sister came to America. He died from a heart attack before I turned 5, and it’s one of my biggest regrets that I could never speak to him about his life.

[@JK360noscope]

Don't worry, if he made it to America, he made it much further than he thought he would at the time. Be happy you were able to meet him at all. Polish here, this Michael guy being from Lwów is 110km from where my family is from/still are. Was a little too close to home at the beginning of this episode, had to turn it off

[@MB-yl9hm]

I'm Polish-Ukrainian, too! Funnily enough part of my Polish side is also from Lvov like Michael, but when it was still part of Poland. When Michael started choking up talking about what his family must have been dealing with during WWII really got to me. I remember when my mother first started explaining to me my heritage and why I don't have grandparents like the other kids and all that. Learning about the horrors that your family has been through when you're a kid is hard, but so necessary. But it's frustrating too, because then you see very clearly the complete ignorance of so many people with regards to history and politics. I love America, I love being an American, but holy shit you can literally tell some people here that half your family was arrested and killed for criticizing the communist party and they'll just look at you like, "Yeah, and what about it?" People here are so spoiled here that they don't even know how good they have it.

[@jeremyshaffer9200]

My grandmother was a teenager in Germany in WW2..she told my mom she had alot of family die in bomb raids

[@wilrsjasac]

It’s not regret, just an opportunity lost. I feel the same about my great grandfather on my mother’s side

[@gar50172]

Good genes on your side hawt damn

[@bilderberg2418]

This is an amazing episode,thank you Lex and Michael.

[@susanh326]

Your exchange is what's been missing in my life. I've known this depth before, and lost it. Thanks for giving it back to me again.

[@aisharoy3499]

Profound. I was feeling a little depressed but hearing malice talk about how he hates cynicism and there's hope ,made my day a lil brighter

[@swarajnanda7874]

Aye, this episode is indeed good.

[@RenameUranus2Caelus]

Agreed. Cynicism is the soul-rot that caused my depression. Malice (ironic name 🙃) is, to me, a beacon. Through him, I see a way back from the enveloping blackness of despair. Antidepressants have also helped 😁. I can do nothing but stand in gobsmacked astonishment, and respect what a paragon he remains after *years* of abusive criticism. 👏👊 These two, where it counts, are beautiful people.

[@tsoliot5913]

@@RenameUranus2Caelus well done man. I hope you're still making progress. These two stoics are wonderful polarities, and Malice has something properly understood.

[@godsofohio6734]

@@stanleysmooth so has optimism

[@logicalconceptofficial]

@@RenameUranus2Caelus Logic is the light in the darkness and will lead you away from despair, but only if you faithfully reckon (reason properly and honestly) with this one true God.

[@teabreezy9522]

Malice: "Can I curse?" Fridman: "... Fuck yes"

[@thes7450]

Haha

[@Cartersvillain]

Some slight latency on that one - don't worry we have our engineers working on it

[@rosalapeligrosarojas2063]

Great show. Two champions of conversation that matters.

[@Hunorion]

This intro from Michael has saved my soul so many times. Every time I feel hopeless, I watch it again and I can't really explain this, but it makes life tolerable, even joyful sometimes. Thank you!

[@theaklair]

Michael being so emotional on WW2 theme and his family on that time got me too. Thanks for honesty.

[@SebastianMikulec]

Any podcast with Lex and Michael is one I 100% want to listen to

[@klclose1]

This was so fantastic. Thank you.

[@rufusray]

I love watching the episodes with michael back to back, you guys rock together

[@joshuastephenward5316]

Maybe it's just me but seeing Malice in tears talking about his grandma makes his words freakin' sobering.

[@tunnelsloth5948]

Yeah, I teared up during that part. When Yeonmi said Michael truly cared about the North Korean people during her podcast episode, I certainly believed her, but wondered how one can really tell. Now that I've seen this, I can unmistakably tell that he sincerely empathizes with their suffering and the experience of the gruesome crimes against their humanity to an extent most other Americans don't (currently) seem to.

[@csglazing6380]

Some leftist that think they have it hard because of WORDS need to watch that!!!!!!

[@olekkuvppl]

Yeah shame that he forgot to mention that Red Army invaded Lvov that supposedly his grandmother lived in just 2 years prior in 1939

[@aghostanimage]

This was probably the best podcast I've seen in a very long time.

[@hasanmahmud6998]

Second that.

[@tomasschuman6576]

Thrice

[@Mr-Papa-Giorgio]

MEH

[@nathanskinnermusic]

Quad

[@badcornflakes6374]

Jordan Peterson one with the North Korean woman got me

[@dasgunt2549]

Awesome conversation - happy, sad, informative, inspiring!! ❤❤

[@vembdev]

So many great things to learn with these podcasts

[@Tylerius87]

"the fucking robot is the one that gets me to cry wtf is going on" thats exactly how i felt at the end of terminator 2 when i was 10 years old.

[@cosmicmuffet1053]

I was going to make a crying joke, but yours was better.

[@vincentvega8337]

Undefeated comment lol

[@k.u.m.o.r]

You should have seen my 10 years old daughter's face the moment she realised that Arnie also has to die. She never cried so badly, not when she was in pain or anything. Best movie ever

[@mitchmarvinmartian]

Interesting fact. Arnie kills no one in that movie. If your a kid in the 90's and you see all the 'good guys' killing people left and right then you go through a whole movie with one hero deliberately not, because of a kids command, kinda leaves that capital H Hero impression on you.

[@galihad1980]

My 10 yo son cried like a baby when Arnie was saying goodbye. 🤣

[@ignacius8466]

Oh jesus, the first 5 seconds and I'm dying of laughter.

[@undefinedvariable8085]

I started at the thumbnail. Probably the only man that can get Lex out of a suit.

[@lukecpo]

Imagine the scene in the dressing room.😅

[@fidesedquivide3486]

One of the best interviews. Love you both.

[@Non3MA]

Thank you both - always incredibly thought provoking! Sending appreciation, admiration, peace and love. ☮🥰

[@UsDiYoNa]

From a guy who rarely laughs, that intro fuckin’ got me 😂

[@dusanjevtic1961]

Dude same i don't laugh when i am alone(listening to podcasts etc) but the ''I was leaking motor oil'' part i was laughing for 2 min strait.

[@Cartersvillain]

"He is one of my closest friends; we've never met." As someone who grew up on the forums this statement hit so hard.

[@garywaters6356]

Woooooooooow. Wonderful honorable podcast. Thank you.

[@_middleside]

Lovely conversation. So invigorating. Great cap off with the Kerouac quote.

[@rileyjoseph3488]

You two always have the most human conversations and that’s why I love them.

[@69brazzo]

The deconstruction of biases in this convo is off the hook!

[@dirtypure2023]

Is there such thing as... non-human.. conversations?

[@Aminal92]

That’s ironic considering Lex is a robot.

[@Reblwitoutacause]

“A unrelenting Anarchist and a cold Robot walk into a bar...” Turns out the punchline is something about them being wonderful friends and inspiring personalities; Truly, two good men worth looking up to.

[@jalbers3150]

Lex: that was a joke michael Michael: it was a failed joke lmaoooo

[@nfvoodz8828]

That was arguably the best part

[@kayjitsu3151]

i liked it ;D

[@ignorasmus]

Well, I found it worth a chuckle... 🙂

[@blksheep176]

No punchline

[@jonathanpopham5483]

without failure there is no triumph

[@BuilderLee72]

Watched this podcast after seeing several other Lex/Michael conversations and I will be forever grateful to them both for my newfound education of totalitarianism and communism, and for the empathy and understanding I've gained as a result of their honesty and love. Thankyou.

[@leeluo5228]

I love your conversations/podcasts. Stay safe.

[@Xpistos510]

This is the greatest thing I've ever seen. I love both Michael Fridman and Lex Malice.

[@stevemacbr]

I laughed,... when Michael laughed. I cried,.. when Michael cried. And I empathised with Lex,... when he did neither. .

[@allanroney]

😄 😓 🤖

[@RyanAustinDean]

😂😂😂 …😐

[@victorsavage4638]

thank you so much for this conversation it gives real hope

[@sarahrenay341]

I've always liked Michael and enjoyed listening to him as a guest on various podcasts, even certain ones that I've went back and listened to again over the years, but listening to this podcast- I truly fell in love. I'm converted. and I will probably be listening to his podcast exclusively for the next week. What an amazing human being. We don't deserve it, but we certainly need more people like him in this world. 🙏

[@brettfromla4055]

“Thank God, this isn’t your life.” - Michael. That would be a great name for a book on totalitarianism.

[@SirEmoSushi]

I've never seen Michael this emotional. This was raw.

[@krisersn3092]

Hes on cocaine from his book money

[@Demontoastslayer]

@@krisersn3092 Yeah hes totally coked up in a 2.5 hour interview, you must not know shit about drugs to think that

[@ilovetheatf]

@@Demontoastslayer your right, Michael is obviously bumping hard on ketamine.

[@josephcohen9480]

He is so happy he finally learned how to drive. He a Texas boi now!

[@Valkyrie1941]

He just try to be hard ball troll on twitter and on his channel. But in reality he's just a pusy ..

[@lukeanderson6844]

Few things have brought me as much joy lately as Michael malice as the MIB speaking in Lex's dull staccato intro voice. Both of you, thanks for being you

[@JJL1342]

You two were made for each other. I love this.

[@graysonhetherington]

“It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners” 7:18 Wow.

[@oldhouseredux7733]

Seriously great.

[@busfahrer09]

But what's wrong with being on the side of the executioners when you're facing communists and cultural-marxists?

[@busfahrer09]

@@ffnovice7 'Communism' is a defined term. You can't just start another blame game and call people NaZiS first and then you'll call them communists as it fits your agenda. I'm no future boomer, I'm 24 and just hate communists and have no problem minecrafting them.

[@DanielGomez-qg8vd]

@@busfahrer09 you really don't understand why it's wrong to execute communists for being communists?

[@yescommunitiesnorules9623]

@@DanielGomez-qg8vdIts not wrong...

[@loganculver9058]

Had to pause 15 seconds into this just to regain my composure

[@bradm8529]

Hahaha, I think that’s everyone here.

[@anthonyhewitt9397]

I pass up every intro of lex's but I'm glad I seen this one.

[@charlieb8735]

I see why this came into my youtube suggestions. Fantastic episode, one of my favorite of this podcast.

[@blottoarregato8935]

Thank you Michael and Lex, for "soldiering" through some pretty tough moments in this podcast. It had depth, beauty, meaning, eternity.

[@FynfromGames]

Michael Malice: "Not everyone has souls." Nick Cannon: 😃👍

[@EdoKwin]

Top tier comment

[@ilovetheatf]

@Ferny Fresh you won't win, good and God will always prevail.

[@robertconklin]

@@EdoKwin hhh

[@nedyah151]

I am a proud sub-human.

[@iamatlantis1]

That was a spot on impression at the beginning. Deserved more recognition

[@christendenise220]

33:05 just crying with you all, hung on every word. Thank you guys for all you do.

[@DannySullivanMusic]

Will be interesting if history reframes this as an actual conversation between two totalitarian dictators

[@luzm.9868]

🤪👍scary thought but, so possibly true

[@n77n77]

Hahaha

[@artofthepossible7329]

Preferably long after these 2 (and us) are dead.

[@mackturner1505]

One of them is an anarchist...

[@luzm.9868]

@@mackturner1505 that's a likelihood 🤔

[@wherebandshaman]

I never in my life expected to see lex filmed in anything other than his trademark suit. I'm so glad I don't only listen to it on spotify.

[@truthbetold2020]

these two men are great men. I needed this in my life right now. much respect for this conversation.

[@catjohnson2522]

I absolutely love your interviews.

[@heidi.k252]

I've learned so much from Michael Malice. He's keeping white pilled.

[@heidi.k252]

@@mabaker Thankfully I appreciate an edgy smartass.

[@eeuphoria9077]

@@mabaker way too sad. Saw his video with valuetainment? Malice was being a smartass with the facial expressions of knowing it all. How do people love being a anarchist? This guy is confused trying to be "different" .

[@chacdogful]

@@eeuphoria9077 yuuupppp I just watch him on other people’s podcasts’. He basically liberal from what I’ve seen. I’m sure he’s talked crazy anarchy shit elsewhere, but I don’t subscribe to it.

[@NathanCassidy721]

This started out funny, then it got sad. Talk about emotional whiplash.

[@BigDaddyDru]

I just started it and laughed my ass off….might turn back now, shit..

[@BigDaddyDru]

I’m not going to stop, but I appreciate the heads up.

[@NathanCassidy721]

@@BigDaddyDru It's a good podcast.

[@iamwhoyousayiam6773]

Life

[@Travelbythought]

Such a brilliant conversation.

[@timothymchugh6232]

I have some training in first aid, and taking care of injured and or disabled people. One of the concepts to be aware of is “level of consciousness”. I’ve noticed a very wide range of LOC, amongst people who are not considered injured or disabled as well. It seems to be a concept that applies to the bigger picture of human behavior beyond first aid.

[@lahazard]

Worked for 38 years as an RN, mostly in behavioral health, and I have always understand the concept in terms of brain health when it comes to a physical illness, but have not thought of it in the way you mention. I can think back and see where such an understanding of it in this way would have been extremely helpful. It still can now when I begin to get agitated with someone. It may not be the case for them, but at least I can respond by considering it before I react. Thank you.

[@HearMeOutGuy]

10000000% true. I work in health field as wel

[@damien1065]

“Can we talk about world war 2 and the Soviet Union?” That sentence is so funny when considering that Lex is dressed as a Soviet officer hahaha

[@ZalexMusic]

wait til you hear the rest 🙃

[@Ryantrock8888]

I feel like it’ll become a meme template

[@oregonpug6924]

Nothing gets passed you huh

[@LetsTalkAboutPrepping]

@@Ryantrock8888 make it so, number one

[@dirtypure2023]

lmao fr

[@terryeaster1]

37 minutes in and this is not the podcast I expected. This is incredible on another level. Thank you guys

[@hasanmahmud6998]

True

[@adamdonovan4071]

Camus’ The Plague is one of my favorite books of all time. Dark, but utterly uplifting and inspiring as the story unfolds.

[@mr.goldfish7473]

I just got it because of this comment. I better enjoy it.

[@adamdonovan4071]

@@mr.goldfish7473 I hope you do. Post here when you finish it and let me know.

[@lahazard]

First time I read this I was 13 years old. I was at the grocery store with my mom and started reading it from the paperback rack they had. She had reservations, but agree to buy it for me. This was 1964. I did not understand much of anything at that time, but still couldn't put it down, and the desire to better understand what I had just read started me down an entirely different road than I was already on. It was a watershed book for me. I'm 72 now. Still don't think my understanding is a whole lot improved. This discussion with Lex and Michael, and your comment, have it back on my current "To Be Read" pile.

[@adamdonovan4071]

@@lahazard I’m glad that I could rekindle a memory of yours and contribute in some small way to your life experience. It really is a great book. My tip would be when you go back to read it again, as you are reading think about who the narrator is. If you do make it back to reread the book, let me know your thoughts. We can have a book club in the comment section! Have a great day.