Diagnosing the Donated 2011 MacBook Pro

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In today's video, we will be doing a full diagnosis of the 2011 MacBook Pro that was recently given to me.
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[@TehChozen1]

Boot Loops! My favorite cereal!

[@Adamlol642]

Lmao

[@TechNetworkUK]

My favourite too

[@m333x]

You can disable the gpu and use intel intergrated graphics

[@blakecasimir]

More information, please.

[@m333x]

@@blakecasimir DosDude1 has a tutorial on how to do this on his website dosdude1.com/gpudisable/

[@MichaelMJD]

I'm currently looking into doing this exact thing haha! Hopefully I can get this machine up and running again

[@SStarlight9614]

@@MichaelMJD see if the dosdude1 will replace your gpu with one that won't fail and if he says it will just fail anyways just do it anyways and run a fan controller like macs fan control and have it have both fans run at high speed all the time

[@davidr6427]

i agree, i did it. I hope he can figure it out & doesn't use it for parts. Hes close...he in single user mode, he just has to implement the commands to disable discrete gpu

[@mikepxg6406]

Love the way you say Toesheebar

[@MarchMountain]

Collin Mistr (dosdude1 - creator of the High Sierra patcher you used) is working on a product you can solder to your board to permanently bypass the bad GPU on these models. Your machine would run as it should on the integrated Intel HD 3000 graphics. I don't know if he is selling them yet, but it could save a pretty nice computer from the digital dump.

[@Dan-TechAndMusic]

The MuxHat is already finished, pretty sure Collin is already selling them. EDIT: He sells them on eBay, but they are currently out of stock. This site has a link to both the eBay store, and a Google Form for getting on the waitlist for MuxHats: computeco.de/MuxHat.html

[@Dan-TechAndMusic]

Update, the MuxHat might not be coming back soon. Collin already developed a new solution that involves flashing his custom developed firmware to the gMux IC to disable its GPU switching capability, so it needs no board modifications. He's gonna develop a special flasher that you can use for solderlessly flashing the chip. Source: facebook.com/groups/lowendmac/permalink/10155931974486689/

[@goysb4jays566]

Tech&Music anything for the 2010 nvidia issue..?

[@Legoguy1979]

Apple fix for this was to add a rubber piece to create pressure on the chip. Also, im curious if resetting the smc will do anything.

[@Poire33]

The rubber was for the late 2012 and early 2013 retina Macbook Pros, not the 2011 Macbook Pros.

[@Poire33]

Still, Apple made a HUGE mistake that Apple did.

[@Legoguy1979]

@@Poire33 that's for sure, if people are paying 2x the cost of a comparable computer they better have some great engineering. But, if they did that then they wouldnt be a trillion dollar company.

[@goysb4jays566]

Rupert C any solution for the 2010 MBP Graphics issues? (Nvidia & intel)

[@jonglass]

You don't think it would be worth taking in to Apple? They would have fixed it, had the original owner known and taken it in... who knows if you don't try?

[@davidonx159]

That would cost atrocious amounts of money to make it not even worth it as the program for the GPU's has ended.

[@crashbandicoot4everr]

It's not fixable. All they do is reflow the GPU and give it back to you.

[@IansTech]

Did you try resetting NVRAM and SMC?

[@MichaelMJD]

Yes I tried to do both of those but it still didn’t boot

[@RubenAparicioProductions]

I have a 15 MacBook Pro that needs an OS because it didn't have a hard drive. I am not sure how am going to make a fresh install of macOS. I've tried Mountain Lion and that didn't work. It looks like I need Sierra or High Sierra. I don't have another Mac that can support High Sierra. The only Mac that I have that does not support High Sierra is an iBook G4. I will need some people that can help me clean install macOS with Transmac. I only used Windows to format the drive that was expected to be the install USB.

[@MY5TCrimson]

Not sure if it applies to 2011 MBPs, but for my 2010 MBP, poidevin's tool works for me flawlessly. You can see in detail how it works, and download it here: forums.macrumors.com/threads/gpu-kernel-panic-in-mid-2010-whats-the-best-fix.1890097/#post-23312990 No hardware modifications or repairs required. It's not perfect, but it does work and lets you keep the Nvidia GPU.

[@Josh.Davidson]

Good video - but be careful, those 2011 MacBook Pros are awful machines, they will all have GPU problems kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4bEe2umedGrn5om13s 10mins, 13sec

[@SteelT]

Whoever said there was no hard drive was really spot on

[@namenotallowedinyourcountr2709]

good timing

[@themrenerd7384]

Yeah I instantly recognized that sound since I own a few Macbook's myself that don't have any HDD's in them :P I'm the one who commented that on the original video btw :D

[@davidonx159]

You can reflow the GPU and still get some life of this machine, of course it isn't a permanent fix as it isn't the problem in the solder balls but it works for some time, depending on your luck, that's what I did with mine 4 days ago and it's still working, I've stress tested it with Furmark - no problems so far. Also, there's a software patch to disable the dedicated GPU so you can keep on using it with integrated GPU with hardware acceleration, but there are some drawbacks like displayport not working. If you plan on changing the motherboard look for a 2012 one, if you go with a 2011 it will fail again soon. So I recommend reflowing the chip and see how it goes from there, you may get very lucky and it could work for a very long time still if you don't push it too much and put on a decent application of thermal paste.

[@AShifter]

If it does fail, there's a neat trick you can do called a gMux Bypass that will permanently disable the GPU - Just search gMux Bypass on google but basically you run a few wires on the board (specifically LVDS data lines) to "bypass" the gMux chip that switches between the Intel integrated graphics and the dedicated AMD graphics. Dosdude1 made it, the same guy that made the patcher to run macOS Mojave on older Macs. It's actually quite a good mod, without using software patches that will get reset on a PRAM reset. Glad to hear that your laptop is working! :)

[@davidonx159]

AShifter yeah, I saw that too but without proper microsoldering equipment and knowledge it would be like rocket science to an average joe like me lol

[@kristiantodorov5080]

3:26 the best transition from mac to windows xp home edition xD

[@saadmaqsood9804]

I had the same issue, apple just replaced the logic board however, that didn't help because the problem would happen several months later. Finally when the extended warranty by apple was over this happened again, and i was forced to look else where. A person on ebay traded my logic board and gave me a "fixed" logic board that actually had the issue removed, basically they fixed issue on their own logic boards and trade in yours. I had to give $195 since then no problem. Everything works great.

[@Reziac]

Best Buy has the Kingston 120GB SSD for $20 pretty regularly. Too many early deaths for me, I stick to Sandisk for real-use, but for a quick-and-dirty SSD, price is right. Rooted around ebay, looks like the best price for the board and chip is about $110.

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

its funny how in the last 5 years the reputations have swapped around, with most people staying away from sandisk and many having experiences of kingston ssds being reliable

[@Reziac]

The only regular RAM I've had trouble with, and more than once, was Kingston. So they kinda start in the hole with me. Still for $20 for a scratch drive, not so bad.

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

@@Reziac Yeah for RAM they don't really compare to Hynix or Samsung, I've only had Kingston for laptops but its been fine for me in the years I used it. It's probably thermals which they can't handle, they came in early 2000s Macs which had 0 ventilation for the RAM sticks - they likely give out in intensive activities over long/frequent periods of time

[@rartolak]

Liked the video and it was as expected.. Sorry i had to be true there last haul vid. :c For a little insight.. It seems apple decided loudness over cooling with thoes machines. Sandybridge along with the amd graphics chip on the same cooler is bound to overheat along with such a gradual fan curve. The amd chips were run out of thermal spec and would degrade the die and its connections, be that on-die or substrate connections, significantly faster than if it was engineered with better cooling in mind. Granted i know their limited with the chassis being so small since most consumers are after thinness.. I too accept the flaw in the chip as well as it has its potential of being hot garbage as well as the whole system. Food for thought.

[@MichaelMJD]

Thank you! I appreciate the info

[@seshpenguin]

I really love the old macbooks. I have a pre-unibody that I use once in a while (early 2008) and it's quite nice, though it's limited to El Cap sadly.

[@Rolatnor]

This is the simplest fix I've seen lmao

[@davidmolin8944]

I had a 2010 which had the graphics card issue, had to boot it in safe model todo anything with it, eventually gave up with it and put it in the bookshelf of dead electronics, I have a newer pro which works much better but I’ll always remember the 9 years that 2010 ran for

[@nikolan123]

Hey! This is my laptop!

[@thewonderfulwizardofozisan7573]

try blowing on the graphics chip with a hairdryer for 3 minutes or so... (cover the other parts around it). I've actually tried this on an internal nvidia graphics card on a Sony Vaio I think it was... and it worked (to my surprise!). I know it's not a permanent fix... but it's fun anyway and for me that computer worked fine for more than half a year until I gave it away... so maybe it's still up and running.

[@freetayk47]

4:40 "This could actually be my main mac... When I actually decide to use a mac." Oh okay so almost never.

[@hblaub]

You need a SSD. It's way better for those old Sandy Bridge computers. Plus it's better for a laptop with less power.

[@MichaelMJD]

For sure! If I'm able to get this working it's definitely getting an SSD. Pretty sure the hard drive it has now is 5400RPM, which probably contributes to why its so slow haha.

[@crashbandicoot4everr]

Delete the AMD kexts from /System/Library/Extensions while using the HDD on the 2009 machine and then put it back into the 2011 machine and boot it up. Mac OS will boot without graphics acceleration. To fix this, run this command in Terminal to disable the AMD card then restart: sudo nvram fa4ce28d-b62f-4c99-9cc3-6815686e30f9:gpu-power-prefs=%01%00%00%00

[@DoctorKosher1978]

Michael! I'd love to see a followup to this! I find your videos very entertaining, especially when there's a followup video regarding something like this, or the Dell computers you recently reformatted. Since you're looking up a solution to fix this particular problem, I'd love to see what your conclusion is.

[@MichaelMJD]

Thanks for the feedback man, I appreciate it! I'm looking currently at a few options to get this thing up and running again. Should be making a followup video in the near future : )

[@DoctorKosher1978]

Sweet! -I don't know if you saw my comment in your video, reformatting those Dell Inspiron laptops, but I think it'd be awesome if you started a Discord server for your subscribers! -I recently tried my hand at dual-booting my Dell Precision M6400 Mobile Workstation Laptop, by cloning my Samsung EVO 850 TB SSD (which has my Windows XP Pro install) to a Western Digital Scorpio Blue 400 GB HDD, and creating a partition for Windows 7, and it instantly reminded me of you and your awesome videos and channel.

[@Kubovec20]

Fan on a MacBook Pro goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[@MrWilkat1]

Have a similar issue but still starts on occasion and runs beautifully until the next shut down or kernel panic. There are some fixes including a ship that can be installed to permanently bypass the AM GPU but I've not done that--still thinking it over, and may try changes under S mode. BTW: My screen shows up in bright blue not black in the mode and does that when recovery fails too.

[@Endogamy]

Boot it up with Puppylinux, a 260MB files size operating system with no hard disk needed.

[@israel6870]

Mine have that bootloop, the solution was (weird ) only change the battery and reinstall MacOS

[@stevewoodhouse6106]

you could try to go to support page and see if Apple issued a Software Update for that specific Model

[@swag-cc4uc]

The first issue I saw is that this is the dGPU enabled model, which tends to cook itself.

[@mohammedmaslehuddinkhan157]

In Mac try install Windows or Linux

[@EldiasMahdiSastra]

You can disable AMD and force Intel as the main GPU by removing the AMD Kext from Library.

[@HoLDoN4Sec]

the 2008-2012 15" and 17" unibody came with nvidia gpu's, apple stopped using nvidia and turned to intel iris pro and amd graphics with the 2015 macbook pros onwards

[@goysb4jays566]

HoLDoN4Sec any solution for the nvidia models?

[@ashisharky]

GENERIC APPLE HARDWARE IM DEAD

[@AdamSmith-gs2dv]

Why are you using XP on those insperions? They can easily run Windows 7 or Windows 10

[@HoLDoN4Sec]

i've had one of these machines myself when it was brand new, it originally actually came with windows vista and an option of downgrading to windows xp with one of the included utility disks it came with. that inspiron though was quite a good laptop for its time, it is so modular and upgradable you could even add a backlit keyboard to it after the purchase altho these were a pricy luxury back in that time

[@nikolan123]

Its the same model!

[@JessicaFEREM]

120 for $20 or 240 for $30

[@jlawson910]

I have "fixed" this issue by installing theorigional is version.

[@jlawson910]

Apple refused to replace my board because I had Yosemite on it, which they claimed could not run on that hardware!

[@braggie8367]

Second

[@comicsanz97]

Yeah, there was an issue back in 2011 when nvidia tried a new soldering method for the macbooks and some of their graphics cards, which caused issues, the gpu unblocking from the socket.

[@davidonx159]

2011's use Radeon graphics and it was never a problem with how it attached to the motherboard. The chips themselves were defective, 2012 Nvidia models don't face such problem.

[@comicsanz97]

@@davidonx159 Yes, this problem was at the early 2008 macbook pro. Sorry! But the problem here can be solved by completely disabling from software the dedicated gpu. forums.macrumors.com/threads/force-2011-macbook-pro-8-2-with-failed-amd-gpu-to-always-use-intel-integrated-gpu-efi-variable-fix.2037591/

[@goysb4jays566]

Serban Iordache what about for a 2010 with nvidia? I tried that program that alllows you to switch GPUs on the fly and switching from Nvidia to intel made no difference? Any help?

[@700gsteak]

Is that a late 2011 model?

[@crashbandicoot4everr]

Either early or late 2011. Both suffer from the same issue with the gpu.

[@xBZZZZyt]

try installing linux

[@MichaelMJD]

Linux would be cool to try out on this machine for sure!

[@TheTechnoGuy18]

Hi

[@MichaelMJD]

Hello!

[@hugosimoes5119]

And this video was sponsored by Fixit kit and get that macbook to louis rossmann or go to visit him

[@ce1cecl]

Third. Dang! Edit= 21 likes/0 dislikes last time i checked lol

[@JediSlayer21]

ChrisEric1 CECL dislikes aren’t shown