Ocular Migraine (Retinal Migraine) vs. Migraine Aura EXPLAINED | How to treat and prevent

[@deztroyer76]

I get the jagged lines in both eyes (not 2 sets of lines…if I close just one eye, either one, it’s there in my vision in the same spot) and slight problem focusing straight ahead in the area of the lines. Usually takes about 20 minutes for the lines to slowly move across my vision until they’re gone. No headache or migraine ever follows. Happens a few times a year.

[@devdroid9606]

This is very likely a detachment of the vitreous humor. It is common in adults 50 and over. It means that the jelly that fills the eyeball is shrinking and pulling away or that there are small protein fibres that are formed within this jelly, called floaters. Floaters look like something like hair is on your camera lens. An optometrist or ophthalmologist can confirm with an eye exam. A related symptom is that when you shake your head in a totally dark room, you see a flash of light.

[@trinacogitating4532]

​@@devdroid9606I disagree. I've had floaters for many years. I have also had migraine with aura, with the jagged line visual symptom. It looks completely different from floaters.

[@joan.nao1246]

​​@@devdroid9606 I disagree. A lifetime of floaters, vitreous detachments, ocular & typical migraines all present with unique & different symptoms, as well as affect each eye's vision differently.

[@ritahall8148]

I get the same symptoms, preceded by some blind spots, with no subsequent headache. My mother got bad migraines and I used to get frequent but not severe headaches that woul last up to a few days, but these were never associated with migraine aura.

[@Moondoggy1941]

I get the same thing, sometimes it gets really bad and vision is affected, now I just lay down in a dark room.

[@phishfan]

I get an aura that starts as a tiny spot and then grows into a jagged kaleidoscope that blocks out the centre of my vision. I was diagnosed with ocular migraines, but it is in both eyes. I do not get the headache nor any other symptoms. The episodes last almost exactly 20 minutes and then completely disappear. Started about 5 years ago, happens a couple of times per year, sometimes while hiking or trail running especially in cool weather. Can also happen spontaneously.

[@mssmssmssmss]

That is the aura without other migraine symptoms, a third kind of experience which the doctor did not discuss. Other comments here discuss this, too. I had my first bad experience in middle age, but I think I may have been having very mild ones for a long time, perhaps even since childhood. My sister had one at an even older age. I am not sure if she has had more, though. I have not been able to figure out what may trigger them, except maybe stress.

[@josephinelong3214]

I get these too. Exactly as you describe. There doesn't seem to be any reason, they don't connect with my "ordinary" migraines

[@lindaladner4949]

I also have ocular migraines in both eyes, as do both of my daughters. I notice I cannot see what I am looking at (like reading) which is not a black dot but rather multicolored. That spot slowly gets wider and my central vision returns with the outer vision being “wavey”. This pattern continues until my full vision is restored. It does not precede a headache but I do feel a bit dizzy during the wavey peripheral vision part. This has been going on since I was in my twenties and I am now 71. I have noticed that bright lights will trigger these episodes so I avoid facing exterior windows on sunny days, etc.

[@lindaladner4949]

PS These episodes last about 20 minutes.

[@johnbrewer1893]

exactly what ive had….nvr knew anyone but me had these

[@repro7780]

In my youth, I would sometimes get an aura, with the zigzag lines, flashing lights, etc. The first sign it was coming was a blind spot, like looking at a face, and I can't see the nose. The aura would get worse, going across my field of vision. I'm also feeling "out of it". Once the aura subsided, then came the hammer; an awful migraine. Now that I'm older, I still get aura's occasionally, but once it goes away, no migraine! I still feel sleepy, a bit dizzy, etc. I saw a neurologist, and he told me that can happen as you age. People who don't have migraines have no idea. "Take a tylenol" they say. No idea what they are like. Your life stops. Only a dark, cool, quiet room with a cold, wet cloth on my forehead would work, and max tylenol dose. I have only vomited a couple of times during a migraine, and its the worst thing imaginable; having a throbbing headache, and retching hard over a toilet...you just want it all to end. 59 yo male.

[@gamerz000.]

I am 15 and have nearly the same problem but I only get the zigzag broken screen like lines that expand thorough the whole eyes and goes away after that a headache with dizziness.

[@Tralfagal]

Omg, this perfectly describes what I have. The random blindspot is always the start of it and then the aura follows moving across horizontally my vision spectrum.

[@kanhaiya153]

​@@gamerz000....Hey. ...I'm also 15 years old...and I too have this problem...since i was 11 years old...but now after seeing this video I got known of this kind of migrane...really getting a aura and after that a horrible headache is a very bad exprience...

[@RedRebel008]

were the blind spots shadowy???? And would these shimmering lights last for 6-7 seconds or 6-7 minutes???? I know I shouldn't rely on internet for medical advice, but I just want to confirm before I go to a doctor complaining of neural disorder.

[@gamerz000.]

@@kanhaiya153 yeah same

[@shewho333]

My teenager has had “migraines” for several years now that mimic a stroke. One time, one side of her face was drooping, she lost sensation in her left sided hand and leg, and while she was talking to me, she was no longer speaking in a language I could understand. I raced her to the hospital, and because she had “migraines” on her previous chart, the triage nurses labeled it a headache and by the time the doctor got to us, it was too late for a CT or MRI and the event seemed to be correcting itself (much like a mini stroke). It’s horrifying every time it happens. Often, she loses all peripheral vision on one side or the other. I wish I could fix it for her.

[@squareonedocumentary-mjisi6058]

Can I ask you a question ? Is it possible to go blind forever from this?

[@squareonedocumentary-mjisi6058]

can people die from this?

[@sugarhill0627]

This happens to me..just happened at work..I get big black spots in vision and it's a warning call that I'm about to get worst migraine ever

[@harishv21]

​@@sugarhill0627Will this cause any big problem?

[@deonsairyfairypage2415]

She could be having a hemiplegic migraine.

[@cyndimanka]

I had the auras, but I never had the headache. I went to my eye doctor, and he told me what it was. I figured it was stress. I haven’t had them for a very, very, very long time. I’m retired now, but it was when I was working and I’m going to say it was stress.

[@annakatebertolet2703]

A misconception is that migraines are really bad headaches, but that's far from the truth. Often a headache accompanies them, but a lot of people (including myself) don't get "headaches". I get violently nauseated and can't see out my periphery because of the aura.

[@118Shadow118]

@@annakatebertolet2703 supposedly only about a third of people have migraines accompanied by a headache. I'm one of the "lucky" ones... not fun. It always start with a weird "phantom limb" feeling, like my hand isn't mine, then I get the aura for 20-30 min, then sometimes numbness in hands or mouth and then a very, very bad headache, which lasts for 1-2 hours. If I manage to time it right, sometimes Ibuprofen does help On the plus side, I only get them 1-2 times a year. I used to get them more often in my teens (I'm in my thirties now)

[@dotsmyfavorite2]

​@@beelzebub3920 antihistamine helps me. I get these when seasons change, or temps change quickly out of season. If it's seasonal allergy time (spring or fall) I also need sinus meds. For about a week's span. I can use Walmart generic 24 hour allergy pills, and during the day add a cheap sinus medicine. That gets me through those week spans. I hope that helps you.

[@biggirlonatreadmill1209]

I had my first one a few weeks after a severe migraine. I had no clue what was happening and freaked out wondering why my sight looked like the mirror dimension from Dr Strange. No pain and after a few minutes it was gone. Haven’t had a migraine since then.

[@skeelatheskink8724]

@@annakatebertolet2703check for a brain tumor.

[@iqqcbe]

My story goes like this. Migraine with aura on & off for 2 years -->Neurologist---> MRI---->Diagnosed with a Colloid cyst (benign tumour) and hydrocephalus---->ETV surgery---->Problem solved and never had migraine with aura again.

[@captsorghum]

Similar with me, only a different type of benign brain tumor. Aura only in one eye, but definitely not "retinal" anything.

[@rbrock00]

It must have been quite severe to warrant all that medical intervention...was it?

[@iqqcbe]

@@rbrock00 I tried to take it take it one step at a time to control my stress level… did not think too much about it…before I knew it everything was over and I sat by the beach thanking the lord for everything.

[@maryleigh8990]

Well its migraine aura for me. The trigger is reflected light. A bright flash of light, like the sun reflecting off the river. But there in no headache.

[@MMAdiehardfan]

Why does it start out of nowhere randomly though also is there any correlation to floaters

[@lesliebooth2833]

@@maryleigh8990 I was always triggered by bright light and glare and was always looking for the darkest sunglasses possible back then (70’s-80’s) but these I’ve experienced recently haven’t had that as a trigger (not really sure there IS a trigger). But yep, dark glasses were a THING back in the day! I started getting them in 7th grade and my 1st period class was on the east of the building with an east wall of windows, so super-bright and no escape!! Texas History. Ew.

[@captsorghum]

@@MMAdiehardfan I can't believe they have anything to do with the eyeball. Probably all of these should be called migraine aura.

[@Madridchic79]

I get auras when I go inside from a bright day outside. One time everyone in Target was walking towards me in a shimmering, zig-zaggy pink bubble, lol!

[@snookman62]

I've gotten them from the reflected light (like off chrome trim on a car) but a few times from flash heat like an opened oven door. I'm a cook and my first one was triggered from opening an oven door. That was 25 years ago.

[@larynjanay4878]

Wow! I'm over 50 and have been having what I thought was ocular migraines for the last 10 years or so, after watching your video I now realize I don't have ocular migraines I have migraine aura! Thank you for making this video Dr. Chua!

[@RG.......]

Have you figured triggers and how to stop it

[@larynjanay4878]

@RG....... for me it seems like lack of sleep, stress, hormones, looking at my phone too much, flashing lights and some foods and drinks. If I go lay down in the dark or with an eye mask on for 10 to 20 minutes it seems to go away.

[@RG.......]

@@larynjanay4878 Doesn't matter what you do, it will go away in 20 minutes, that's the mechanism how it works. I kept a diary and recorded everything but absolutely no co relation with sleep, caffeine, stress etc. Absolutely frustrating!

[@dragonofcuriosity757]

This video really helped me yo be less scared about what is happening when I experience this. Thank you.

[@TangentOmega]

These can be very hard to describe accurately. I was misdiagnosed with ocular migraines because of intermittent blurry vision. Turns out it's Multiple Sclerosis. Because of varied symptoms, each specialist diagnosed me with a condition in their specialty, without putting them all together until i saw a neurologist.

[@stevielloyd6519]

He talks so fast it gives me a migraine.

[@donicarobinson24]

RRMS here. I've gotten these fifteen minute fractal, ice-on-a-window, annoying vision problems without pain for a decade. I'm sure mine is related to old brain scars and fluctuating blood flow, but I doubt everyone else posting about it here has MS. I'd love a name for it.

[@TangentOmega]

@@donicarobinson24 SPMS. Sorry but my vision problems stopped soon after getting diagnosed. Never got any more clarification. If there's no pain, you can still function and it's not progressing, 👍🏻

[@sheela4537]

Did you have white lesions in your brain and spine?

[@TangentOmega]

@@sheela4537 yes. When I asked, how many he said they were uncountable.

[@MR-ik4id]

After watching this video and reading these comments I realized I am not alone! I found out after 15 years that it’s called migraine aura. It’s a thing and I am not crazy!! Sometimes you gotta search the right words to get the specific information you need. Thank you so much for sharing this video. Very eye opening! The moment I get migraine aura, I get a warning of severe headache coming which will lasts for a week or two and then sensitivity to light for a month. I recently called in sick last minute from job and there’s no one to cover. They were pissed as it was only migraine and how come it happened last minute? Little did they know that it’s not just migraine. Blurry vision, nausea, dizziness, severe headache. People can’t understand how hard it is for us. You can’t study for your exams, you can’t go to work. Your life stops, and then some people say it’s just a migraine!

[@Blessedhappygood]

I understand it's disabling and makes one dysfunctional.

[@liezltabora8389]

Do u have eye pain too behind the eyes

[@Blessedhappygood]

@@liezltabora8389 yes, in one eye

[@Blessedhappygood]

@@liezltabora8389 yes, behind one eye everytime. And it keeps shifting one to another during

[@liezltabora8389]

@@Blessedhappygood yeah my doctor's finding is that it's cluster headache

[@lgbtrain1]

Migraines with aura started 40 years ago, occurring biweekly. Neurologist prescribed taking 81mg aspirin daily. Migraines stopped by at least 95% over all these years. I still take it daily. When the migraines subsided, l asked how the aspirin actually prevents occurence. His reply "We don't know exactly, but we know its affective with many patients."

[@MariannaV]

My neurologist also put me on aspirin (cartia) and it stopped my auras. I never got headaches with my aura. The auras started when I was in a very stressful job.

[@juniperjasmine12]

Well I'm glad someone knows about these migraines. I feel like I know more than most of my doctors about migraines. One nurse straight up just thought I was having a stroke and wouldn't believe that it was a migraine.

[@cindicindicindicindi]

I was having a stroke (bleed in the occipital lobe actually) and the ER thought it was a migraine. Similar symptoms!

[@juniperjasmine12]

@@cindicindicindicindi they are very similar! But I have these migraines and have a family history of them, so when the doctors don't know what they're talking about I feel weird about it 🥴

[@LTWILTON]

It's that 3rd cup of coffee every time! There's never any pain (& I don't get headaches anyway, lucky me) and the duration is about 20 minutes. One thing I would add is to IMMEDIATELY STOP DRIVING. If I avoid that 3rd cup, then I avoid the ocular migraine ... I mess up with the caffeine maybe every 3 years or so, but knowing I'll be okay in few minutes is very calming. Thank you for this video!

[@kenwittlief255]

the blind spot stays in one place (in your vision) so if you move your eyes or your head you can scan your field of view, if you are driving for example when it starts, keep moving your eyes side to side until you can find a place to pull over and park for 15 minutes the dangerous thing about the blind spot is it does not look black or white, it just looks like there is nothing there, but there could be a car or a person.

[@moeflo3596]

Yes mam!! Caffeine ( coffee) absolutely does trigger it for me

[@gregorypirog6134]

This Video is very well done. Thank You Doctor Chua. It was Coffee & Tea for me and my sister. Took my sister 20 years to get it diagnosed in the 1990's. I am grateful that she informed me, when I finally got it. Ours also had random occurences of Vertigo. My Aura, both eyes, would start out as the vague blind spot, then 4 scintillating tiny squares which would grow into a zigzag letter 'C' of many many tiny scintillating squares. The C would grow larger and larger, till it seemed it must be 10 feet tall but I could only see a small portion of the bottom arc. Then all gone. I totally agree with the food journal but it didn't help me, because after first starting to drink Tea again, after none in 10 years, it took two or three weeks to ramp up and get the first Aura. Also if I drank Tea on Monday, the Aura might not appear till two or three days latter, randomly. So, I recommend that besides the daily journal, to also keep a running list of all food types consumed for a week. Then start a new running list each week. I think the correlation will become a little more obvious. The randomness will be less of a confusion factor. As Kenwittlief above said, the blind spot is odd, it is not Black or White. To 'see' the permanent ones that we all have, Google: "How to find the optic nerve blind spot" Videos Gregory/ The Pigeon Meister ... . 🐦‍⬛

[@gregorypirog6134]

This Video is very well done. Thank You Doctor Chua. It was Coffee & Tea for me and my sister. Took my sister 20 years to get it diagnosed in the 1990's. I am grateful that she informed me, when I finally got it. Ours also had random occurences of Vertigo. My Aura, both eyes, would start out as the vague blind spot, then 4 scintillating tiny squares which would grow into a zigzag letter 'C' of many many tiny scintillating squares. The C would grow larger and larger, till it seemed it must be 10 feet tall but I could only see a small portion of the bottom arc. Then all gone. I totally agree with the food journal but it didn't help me. Because after first starting to drink Tea again, after none in 10 years, it took two or three weeks to ramp up and get the first Aura. Also if I drank Tea on Monday, the Aura might not appear till two or three days latter, randomly. So, I recommend that besides the daily journal, to also keep a running list of all food types consumed for a week. Then start a new running list each week. I think the correlation will become a little more obvious. The randomness will be less of a confusion factor. As Kenwittlief above said, the blind spot is odd, it is not Black or White. To 'see' the permanent ones that we all have, Google: "How to find the optic nerve blind spot" Videos Gregory/ The Pigeon Meister ... . 🐦‍⬛

[@gregorypirog6134]

This Video is very well done. Thank You Doctor Chua. It was Coffee & Tea for me and my sister. Took my sister 20 years to get it diagnosed in the 1990's. I am grateful that she informed me, when I finally got it. Ours also had random occurences of Vertigo. My Aura, both eyes, would start out as the vague blind spot, then 4 scintillating tiny squares which would grow into a zigzag letter 'C' of many many tiny scintillating squares. The C would grow larger and larger, till it seemed it must be 10 feet tall but I could only see a small portion of the bottom arc. Then all gone. I totally agree with the food journal but it didn't help me. Because after first starting to drink Tea again, after none in 10 years, it took two or three weeks to ramp up and get the first Aura. Also if I drank Tea on Monday, the Aura might not appear till two or three days latter, randomly. So, I recommend that besides the daily journal, to also keep a running list of all food types consumed for a week. Then start a new running list each week. I think the correlation will become a little more obvious. The randomness will be less of a confusion factor. As Kenwittlief above said, the blind spot is odd, it is not Black or White. To 'see' the permanent ones that we all have, Google: "How to find the optic nerve blind spot" Videos Gregory/ The Pigeon Meister ... . 🐦‍⬛

[@imonearthnow1903]

Excellent information presentation. I wish more KZbin channels would stay on point the way you do. Thank you.

[@KBradAdams]

Great Video Doctor. I have aura's in both eyes always. Started late 20's, has gotten worse over the years. Sleep is my number 1 cause. I have tried to eliminate certain foods over the years with no help there. Lately I have been chewing 1 aspirin and 1 Advil or Tylenol and that seems to stop the headache but they usually last 3 hours and I get all the symptoms, then numbness and aphasia but it always passes. Sometimes I get a increase is hearing or smelling before the aura's start but not always. Usually blind spots in my vision then the zig zags. I hope everyone watching this video figures it out or can at least improve their symptoms.

[@kt1696]

Have you ever had a fraction of a zigzag aura stick in your field of vision for a week. I'm on day 9 now. It's like the tiny zigzag that's starts the aura and then recedes after an hour or so. Except I still have this tiny portion not resolving. Suffered since age 6yrs now 75yrs.had all kinds of auras and associated symptoms that go with migraines. Ever evolving. 🤔😩

[@KBradAdams]

@@kt1696 I have never had that! Did you take any medicine for it when it first started on day 1? I would probably schedule a visit with my eye doctor just to make sure nothing else is going on. I had a retinal scan recently but it showed nothing however I was not having the zigzags at the time or a migraine. I hope it goes away soon.

[@kt1696]

@@KBradAdams I had half dose of my medication, consisting of one tablet called migralive pink. Has an anti nausea and a strong pain killer. When the visual aura struck. I've had several more full blown auras followed by a migrain headache, just took the same dose, each time. Those auras dissapeared like they always have done in the past. At the start of this problem when I looked at my hubby's face, his right appeared very vivid and big whilst I couldn't see the left side of his face from his eye to his lip area, if I looked at his left eye, I could see both eyes and his face, but the left eye appeared very light coloured and smaller. That issue has now resolved, all I'm left with is just small area of this aura from a week this Monday. It doesn't matter which of my eyes I cover up, the aura is the same, so i know it's not my eyes, it's definitely my brain. I am due an eye exam, but I don't see how i can get an accurate one while this darned aura fragment is in the way. I'll probably have to pay for two. But yes i will go. I'm hope another day or two will resolve the issue. I've also experienced some weard auras I've never had before. In all other areas I'm fine.

[@RG.......]

​@@KBradAdams How's it going- any luck or progress in reducing? I'm trying the Carnivore diet now with salt water

[@KBradAdams]

@@RG....... Funny you should ask. I retired at the end of May and have not had a migraine since thinking maybe it was work stress but I doubt it. Anyway last night around 10PM I saw the weird aura blocking some graphix on the tv and said damn there is it. I took advil immediately and fell asleep about 30 minutes later. I believe it was due to not sleeping the day before or night maybe 3 hours then traveling from out of town back home. Slight headache today but if I am going to get one best to be right before bed I guess. How has the carnivore been helping? I went keto strict and honestly it did not hurt or help. Really about the same but I like the way my bodies feels and looks doing carnivore. Keep us updated and how it works for you, praying it does!

[@rachelrachel3214]

I had this today. One of the best eye clinics around diagnosed me by phone and said I didn’t need to come in, that I was fine.

[@lily-n-grey]

For months I had an ocular migraine and then I had a lacunar stroke. Your vision is no joke, it can lead you to other stuff going on in your body. Thank you Dr Chua for your info 🥰

[@juliejohnson9740]

I use a technique that I heard from my husband for cluster headache. When having the aura, I hold an ice cube between my thumb and fore and middle finger in the eye I'm having the aura. Hold for about 5 minutes. 9/10 times it takes the headache away. Hope it helps those who need this. It helps me. Peace ❤

[@catherinerose1607]

I will try that. Thank you.😊

[@ShakuraKazuki]

I don't get migraines but one time, I got really scared by an aura. I was at work, reading something and then my vision became weird. The text in my visual focus was blurred but I could still read what was around it. A black blob appeared in my field of view (not in the center) that grew a little, then stopped growing, but prevailed. It also moved. Other than that, I was fine. No headache or anything else. I got scared, got up, got out for breakfast and it disappeared right after I finished eating. It was 8 or so years ago and I never had something like that ever again.

[@JaneCrossan]

As it disappeared after you'd eaten it may have been that you had low blood sugar. This happens to me sometimes. I have diabetes and also suffer from migraines ❤

[@BrennoFerrari]

Some people have migraine aura without migraine headache. I do from time to time.

[@ellehan3003]

I get migraine auras and have noticed the same thing with reading. Its as if your brain cuts out the middle of your vision so you have to read one letter at a time..

[@painetdldy]

Freaked me out the first time it happened to me. I was temporarily blind! No migraine before or after

[@RG.......]

​@@ellehan3003 have you figured out what causes the aura? What treatment options are you doing?

[@silicon212]

I get both types of migraine ... both ocular and classic. Classic migraines for me started around age 9, while ocular migraine started around age 17. I'm 55 now and still get both.

[@KMx108]

I'm 48 and have had these migraines since I was a young teenager. I was recently diagnosed with pernicious anemia and started methylcobalamin (B12) injections. I was amazed at how the frequency of my migraines reduced. It seems like all I really needed all these years was methylcobalamin. All I was ever given was expensive pharmaceuticals. Of those, though....I have to say Nurtec ODT is the most effective. Expensive, but effective.

[@Furthea2]

I got very lucky. Years ago I had my first Ocular incident and it was very worrying and then nothing for months, then suddenly another. Passed from center to the edge of the eye and gone with out a trace. Starting in my very early 20's, That happened maybe 2-3 times a year, but after the first year a light headache started after, then a moderate. The very last one I had came with pretty bad nausea and a strong headache and it hasn't happened since. I'm just glad that after the first headache, I had the warning of the Ocular. It was only a couple years after the last incident that I learned these were actually a version of Migraine, which my mother suffered full-blown for much of her adult life.

[@helmuthahn1352]

Finde einen Arzt, der klassisch homöopathisch arbeitet. Die Homöopathie kennt solche Phänomene und hat Medikamente dagegen

[@RG.......]

@@KMx108 Have you figured out the cause of the auras? Are you following any treatment or eating methods to stop them

[@RG.......]

Have you figured out the cause of the auras? Are you following any treatment or eating methods to stop them

[@mikeh2613]

Very informative. I began suffering migraines, with aura, 60 years ago after suffering a compressed fracture of the skull and have lived them ever since. In the early years they were full on. I dreaded them, nausea, violent headaches etc. over the years I found that if I took ibuprofen painkillers at the onset of the aura, which usually last some 20 minutes, I would be pain free and no nausea. A friend’s daughter who suffered with them now does what I do and can now deal with them as I do. It does make me smile when I hear someone say, “I have a blinding migraine headache”, for any old headache. There is nothing like a migraine headache and I used to be out of it for a couple of days. I now manage my migraines pretty well thankfully.

[@Anfaltlm]

Can recurring migraines accompanied by aura cause a brain tumor or heart attack?

[@ang3ni]

Love this. Such clear explanation of both types of migraines

[@terriem3922]

Thank you. Now I know that I have migraine aura. I see a shimmery white area that blocks out part of my vision, and it is exactly the same shape in both eyes. Fortunately it isn't painful. It usually passes within 20 minutes, and happens 1 to 3 times a month. I have never told anyone about it.

[@KabobHope]

I have this same thing. A shimmery spot appears that is the same shape in both eyes. I lie down and it usually resolves in a half hour. There is never pain.

[@Sydroo1969]

Same here. Never any headaches. Blind spots in both eyes. I usually just go lay down with my eyes closed til it passes. My mom and siblings have painful migraines.

[@carlr2837]

@@Sydroo1969 Yes, exactly the same here, blind spots, but no headache. I had three in a week a few years ago, identified the trigger, and stopped doing, whatever it was. I haven't had one since, but I've forgotten what the trigger was.

[@carlr2837]

@baiseduezcke2295 Hehe, maybe. I've been thinking about it, and I think it was too much coffee, and I cut back by a cup or two a day. I've been creeping back up, so if I start getting them again, Ill know for sure.

[@RG.......]

​@@KabobHope have you figured out what causes the aura? What treatment options are you doing?

[@seeceejay8912]

Suffered migraines since my early 20s, they were just awful with vomiting.. in 52 now and peri menopause seems to cause more frequent attacks, but the difference is i now also sometimes get auras. Just today I felt the tell tale headache and took my tryptophan in time, but suffered 45mins of my own light show instead.

[@kenwittlief255]

same with me: cloudy vision, could not speak or write clearly, numbness in my face, emptied my stomach, terrible pain in my brain, passed out a few times - 3 to 5 years apart was not correctly diagnosed until the 4th overnight stay in the hospital, CT scans, MRI, spinal tap...they thought drug overdose, stroke, aneurism.... till one Dr got it right: complex migraines

[@drjewlsy]

I have had 7 spinal cord surgeries, I get meningeal migraines from then cutting into my spinal cord and removing cysts and tumors. I get a vibration in my spine at the beginning of a migraine. Took years to connect the 2. As in some of my surgeries I had spinal fluid leakage, which predisposed me to these migraines. Don't let anyone diminish your symptoms. Be the squeaky wheel.

[@Nouglas]

I had the first one of these that I knew of in my late 30s. Was in a meeting at work and feeling very frustrated. I stopped being able to see people's faces and overall I felt off (though that might've been terror at what might be happening). The meeting ended and I went to the washroom and look at my face in the mirror and it was just all jumbled with prismatic lines. Happens mostly in my left eye (but that is also likely because I am very left-eye dominant, it's still pretty much there if I close my left eye). I couldn't read properly and thought I was having a stroke. Then it went away an I got better. Very minute headache persisted for a couple hours. It has since happened four times (I'm 40) all of which occurred on a day when I was hungover and was experiencing some annoyance and/or decision fatigue (driving once, shopping once and once when my dogs were acting up and I was kept from doing what I wanted to do). The last two were way shorter, 15 minutes max of visual disturbances and then feeling 'off' for an hour or two, and then suddenly feeling very good. I've noticed that this happens almost exclusively when I'm dehydrated (hungover and not drinking enough water, or in a meeting for hours not able to drink water), and another thing that affects it is always preceded by me feeling annoyed or kept from doing what I want to be doing. In the meeting, the first one, I was trying to say something for like 25 minutes but the blabbermouths just KEPT ONE NOT SHUTTING UP. Other times, I was reading an email from my boss that severely angered me. The other times I was just getting annoyed by traffic or not finding what I needed while shopping. So, for me what works is: Stop getting annoyed at dumb shit and DRINK MORE WATER.

[@KreeH2023]

For me, it's slowly moving lighting bolts on outer periphery of my sight even with both eyes closed. It usually occurs during or after a long aerobic exercise session. Sensitivity to bright lights is another symptom. No headache and symptoms go away after 10-20 minutes. I believe this would fall into the Migraine Aura category.

[@ohana8535]

My doctor told me they were Ocular Migraines. I would think they could both be classed as Auras.

[@KreeH2023]

I wonder if someone can have both? I see the lighting bolts with both eyes, but I also loose partial vision in one. Most always during intense, long aerobic sessions. What fun!!!

[@kennethryesky417]

Thank you, thank you, and thank you for putting it all in concise perspective. Approximately 16 years ago I experienced, in both eyes, what I had described as a "pixellating green phosphene" (probably what you call "shimmering shapes." No headaches or digestive distress, but central vision makes it difficult to do my work (on laptop computer). My optometrist informed me, after I described it to her, that it was the same mechanism as a migraine. I experienced these from time to time (anywhere from 2 hours to three months between episodes), and my remedy was to quietly lie down and close my eyes, and after anywhere from 15 to 30 minutes I was back to normal. The instance before the last episode, I was out doing shopping; it all disappeared in about 5 minutes. I have not done any statistical study, but episodes seem to be more prone to occur when I am more sleep deficient than the norm. I now am located overseas (have not lived in Orange County for more than 65 years), and some of the physicians here have trouble understanding what I had been trying to describe. Maybe some American-trained physician here will be able to figure out what my issues are (if they recur; have not occurred for the past few months) if I use the term "Migraine Aura."

[@mssmssmssmss]

You are lucky that an optometrist knew about it. I think many do not. It is a different specialty from ophthalmology, and my former ophthalmologist, who had become the head of the department, said it is not really an eye issue, but a neurology issue. And he didn't suggest seeing a neurologist -- it seems there was not enough to be concerned about or treat -- they go away pretty quickly but be careful when driving because they can affect you more than you realize.

[@WaynesWorldUnlimited]

This was a good video. I’ve seen those things like wavy lines in my eyes off and on over the years I’ve not had any for the last three years none at all has been great but just this morning it come on quick I took some painkillers knowing that the bad migraine is about to come afterwards, but usually how it works for me, so this was an interesting video. I’ve had that as well completely loss of vision in both eyes where the world goes black and it usually can take up to 30 minutes to an hour before my site comes back, but I’ve not had that problem for many years.

[@Mntguy-nr9vl]

I have ocular migraines in both eyes simultaneously and I can see it when I close my eyes in both eyes.

[@tarabooartarmy3654]

Same.

[@captsorghum]

I had these when I was developing a benign tumor. Usually one eye, but in at least one case alternated to the other eye immediately afterword. I don't believe the retina is involved at all. My one-eye scotomas were definitely brain-related.

[@maryjacobs7046]

Blinding white light in both eyes. No pain, loss of balance.

[@sherriemuller4272]

I had migraines from the time I was six until I was into my mid thirties. They were aura migraines. I also got v vomiting with these headaches. I tried prescriptions nothing seemed to work. On a occasion I went with a friend for a drive when she rent to see her chiropractor, not for a treatment. When she was getting her treatment she explained to the chiropractor that I had severe migrains. He explained to me that he found free me of my migraines. I thought okay I will give it a try. I had my first adjustment that day. He told me to come back in a week for a second adjustment. The day if the first treatment I had the worst migraine I had ever had. I went back in a week and had the second adjustment. To this day, thank the LORD, I have not had another migraine, I still get the auras from time to time and still to this day wait for the migraine but it does not come.

[@JonesieMoon]

Thank you! I always wondered why only one eye was my “aura eye!” I have both chronic migraine with aura and one eye aura.

[@wildcrafttattoo]

I’ve been getting them lately after riding my peloton really hard…thank you for this video. Made me less stressed, and I feel like I need to work on my hydration and turning down the headphones while I ride . 🙏🏼

[@kellyherald1390]

I get the wavy aura with a blind spot but no migraine. It goes away after 15 or so minutes. I've mentioned it to my ophthalmologist and he mentioned the same thing to try to find a common thread to what causes it. Haven't found a common thread yet. Also something to be very aware of is what happened to my mom. One day she started feeling light headed which after a week progressed to dizziness and then she started having vertical double vision. When she finally got it to her ophthalmologist and he determined it was indeed vertical double vision and not horizontal double vision he told her to immediately go see a brain surgeon. She finally did and they found a 1 inch tumor on the base of her brain which is the area involved with balance and vision. She had it removed but it came back aggressively and unfortunately she passed away from this. All of this was in the span of 3 months! So if you have vertical double vision GET IT CHECKED OUT QUICKLY. It is extremely serious.

[@Genesh12]

MY CONDOLENSES ON THE LOSS OF YOUR MOTHER.

[@KMx108]

I have never been told the difference between ocular migraines and migraine with aura. Ive been diagnosed with both but have never been asked if the visual disturbances happen with one eye or both. For me, Nurtec ODT is absolutely amazing medication for my migranes. Ive found that my episodes reduce when i get methylcobalamin (B12) injections.

[@Deadmau5l]

I experienced my first migraine aura yesterday, 30 year old and it scared the hell out of me. I didnt experience much of a headache afterwards but that could be to do with the fact ive used magic mushrooms in the past few weeks and they are proven to help sufferers of migraines

[@roowyrm9576]

When i was around 11 (1966) I developed periodic black/blind spots in the centre of my vision, no headache, but followed by vomiting. Since then i have gone through phases of migraines of various different kinds. Sometimes with visual disturbances, sometimes with sickness and sometimes with headaches. I'm now nearly 70, and i'm still getting them. They all, however, fit into the aura category.

[@robertivers4200]

When i get an ocular migraine aura i take 2 ibuprofin and keeps from getting a migraine. Started in early 40s now 75. Have had cataract surgery😊

[@Elephantine999]

Bright lights can be a trigger for mine.

[@Barbara-u5h]

I live in the southwest. It's always very sunny. If the blinds are open. The sunlight coming in, I can get a aura migraine. One side zig zag lines.lasts about 1 hr. When I'm watching TV in my room. I keep my blinds closed! Outside I'm fine!

[@faustbos]

I have had either ocular migraine or more probably migraine with Aura for over 10 years now. I believe I found my trigger too. I will see it in both eyes, though its always more pronounced in one or the other. I NEVER experience pain with this which is why it took me so long to figure out what it was. Anyway, I have DME, and what I have found is the problem seems to coincide with either a low blood sugar, or a crash (fast drop). When I start to get one now, I immediately eat something. Without eating they will last no more than 25 minutes. If I eat, it can sometimes stop before it really gets going. I get the jagged lines but float around the eye and increase in size until it begins to dissipate. . about 1% of the time I might see flashing or a spot. Every now and then I notice a loss of peripheral vision. That's not in both eyes, always just one. I also feel "odd", that one is hard to explain. I'm not numb, but I'm not right. Knowing that I'm having a blood sugar episode, I'm not sure if my odd feeling might be more related to that or no. Once I realized these were related to my blood sugar, I find them easier to manage and get them less frequently. I get my eyes treated every 2 months and I'm reviewed by doctors most of those visits. I have mentioned this to them as well but I think I will bring it up again now that I have a couple of actual terms I can use rather than explaining the symptoms. Thanks for this vid. It was clear and to the point!

[@KC73]

Interesting. I have had these after eating a meal tho. Blood sugar wouldn’t be low then.

[@RG.......]

have you figured out what causes the aura? What treatment options are you doing?

[@ElizabethFloraRoss]

This was so helpful! I experienced my first ocular migraine a few months ago, and it freaked me out. I have a long history of migraines with visual aura. But this was completely different, and I had no idea what was happening. I was scared. It hasn’t happened again, but I did discuss it at my annual eye exam.

[@liezltabora8389]

Do u have eye pain too

[@luannpatterson5888]

I had migraines as an early teenager. I’d get an aura that was like the sun reflecting off chrome. Grew out of them. Had my first OM when I was 8 months pregnant.

[@alphalunamare]

An epic presentation of how the multiplicity of words can oculate true meaning.

[@jenjen2868]

I had migraines with aura for years. Which was very scary at first. They started after a surgery. But they went again. I haven't had any in 10+ years.

[@xomikey5725]

i currently have migraine with aura i’m 19 years old almost twenty and have been having them sesne i was 10 what have you done to not have them for 10 years?

[@RG.......]

@@xomikey5725 have you met with a neurologist? Read up on magnesium and Vitamin B2 (riboflavin) supplements

[@puff0288]

thank you so much! These were very scary to experience initialy without knowing what in the world was going on.

[@_Julie_Bee]

I was seen by my ophtalmologist and they saw new optic nerve bruising that wasn't there in 2019, previous to getting covid a few times. (I'm since fully disabled with long covid btw) As we looked into my debilitating headaches and signs of idiopathic intracranial hypertension I saw a neurologist who finally validated that the "kaleidoscopes" that I've been seeing since 2010 were not just in my head . They were in both my eyes and obstructed my view at 80% sometimes hours and left me completely out of it. Drained for hours. I'm on topiramate now. Changed my life.

[@squareonedocumentary-mjisi6058]

Can I ask you a question ? Is it possible to go blind forever from this? or get a stroke?

[@eh6454]

Your mention of the word ‘kaleidoscopes’ put me in mind of the visual anomaly I used to have regularly as a child, and sometimes get now. It’s different to my occular migraines (which are shimmering, enlarging C shape in centre of vision), in that it’s like a black kaleidoscope movement framing my field of vision, and I’m interested to know whether this is what you experience, too? I’m sorry you’ve had such a difficult time.

[@aanaperdigao]

Só do you have migraine or intracranial hypertension? Or both? And what caused the hypertension?

[@_Julie_Bee]

@@aanaperdigao both, which will be further investigated more. I got hypertension with long covid. My first occurrence of retinal migraines go back 20 yrs. And regular migraines after discussing with my neurologist, pretty much since my early teens. He's a top expert, being both a neuro psychiatrist, a neurologist but also a surgeon. Being that I have severe cptsd from childhood that most likely is the cause of my migraines, were able to go back and work it from the root.

[@_Julie_Bee]

@@squareonedocumentary-mjisi6058 you could go blind if you didn't get the proper treatment yes. Sadly. Stroke, not. Blind, yes

[@summerlove522]

This video made me feel so much better. I have had them for about 8 years, and don't get them frequently, but EVERY time they scare me. I was laying down watching tv last night and one started. I could see a tiny bit of static in the bottom of my right eye until the zig-zagging bright lights start to form an arc. Never lasts incredibly long, maybe about 20 minutes but still scary nonetheless. The past times I have had them I did not get a headache after but the one I had last night I did get one. Hurt enough that I had a very hard time sleeping from the pain.

[@DrunkenUFOPilot]

I made an animation, just a few seconds long, showing how the aura looks for me. The moving colors, overall shape. It does not capture how the crescent grows. I do not experience a blank area within the crescent, or maybe somehow I don't notice it. No flashes or other non-ordinary visual phenomenon. I never have a headache or any other symptoms at the time. This happens once or twice a year, since I was maybe around 20. Someone suggested making an animation running the full time the aura lasts, showing how it starts, how it fades away. I might do that someday.

[@spiritwaterwolf]

I so appreciate you sharing the knowledge to help some of us whom suffer with migraine auras. Migraines are definitely in a special category of their own, but there are many more variants out there and medical specialists that can go further into depth into those various migraines. The one variety that I had been very well versed in, is the type that is triggered by atmospheric pressure changes. Nausea, light sensitivity, and other triggers from the inflammation, and over sensitive pain receptors. Some medications may not be as helpful, and have found that magnesium supplements offer some significant help in buffering the neurons that become over excited and cause the pain, discomfort, and also minimizing the chances of migraine and auras.

[@Anfaltlm]

Can recurring migraines accompanied by aura cause a brain tumor or stroke?? Can recurring migraines accompanied by aura cause a brain tumor or stroke??

[@genehunter1626]

I'm over eighty and have had migraine aura since I was a teenager. In my case, I would have a series of incidents over several months, and then it would be quiet for as much as a year. It usually starts with a blind spot in the centre, growing into shimerring lines which gradually expand out of my vision, lasting about half an hour. The odd thing is that I had a heart attack about six years ago and was rushed into emergency for a stent implacement. I had an incident before and during the surgery. As it turned out, I needed a second stent, and when that procedure occured several weeks later, the same thing happened. The really strange thing is that I haven't had an occurance since.

[@lmw716]

Just learned the ocular migraines I was diagnosed with are aura migraines. Thanks! (They’re super rare for me, so I’ve never been able to find a trigger.)

[@nrd515]

I've had the migraine auras without headaches my entire life. I asked my eye doctor about "The flashing snake", as I called it at 5 years old. He shrugged his shoulders and said not to worry about it. In my early 20's, I asked my then eye doctor about them, and he said the same thing. When I was 63, I had a really weird one eyed wall of purple shapes that almost totally blocked my vision in that eye. Scared the hell out of me and that's when I finally found out about what I had been seeing all those years. An ultrasound was done on my carotid arteries and everything was fine. I have no other side effects but the light show. Usually it is a arc of zigzag yellow and black lines with pulsating rainbow colors. Some are amazingly pretty, and others are disappointing. I can and have worked, driven, and even had sex during episodes without knowing what it was. An odd thing is since I had cataract surgery, I don't have them as often, and my sleep pattern has changed too.

[@learnova1761]

Had this for the first time in my life while driving today (migraine aura) and it was absolutely terrifying! Glad it wasn't anything more severe haha, thank you!

[@minkymandy6065]

Oh my goodness this is so fast

[@johnwarren8032]

Excellent. Thank you. You organize the material clearly and do a great job explaining it.

[@phillipbottrell]

Just experienced my 2nd aura, this one ended as a long zig zag pattern that lasted around 30 minutes. No headache but im experiencing a pain now n then around 2 inched behind my left ear. I thought i was having a stroke and called an Ambulance. I will go have a CT scan asap just incase it wasnt an Aura, my heart and pressures all good

[@phillipbottrell]

maybe it was ocular ...

[@xomikey5725]

@@phillipbottrelli also have this exact aura and it last about 40-1 hour and then a very bad headache and nausea

[@DConner]

Great video full of info people should know. I had a branch retinal artery occlusion. An eye stroke. Woke up with a red spot in my visual filed, making the entire upper quarter of one eye blind, hidden by a red-black shadow. Called the eye doc and got the answering service, who gave me an appointment in the next week. Reading more about my symptoms made call the office again. This time, the doc called back, saying have someone drive me immediately to the fantastic eye er we have in Philly. They examined me and got me in for immediate mris of brain and arteries, a echocardiogram, sonograms of anything related. They were all fine. No brain stroke. But -- had I gotten in the day after the stroke, they likely could have saved my vision. As it is, the loss is permanent, but since it's only in one eye, my brain is adapting.

[@Nemesis_T_Type]

I'm currently having one right now. And it is definitely not related to vision because if I close my eyes I still see it.

[@ellenstrack6274]

Occular migraines are horrible. I was getting them a few times a month until the neurologist figured out a med routine that got my headaches/ migraines under control.

[@AelwynMr]

So many people seem to have this without pain. I think it must be much more common than doctors realize: most people would not seek a diagnosis for something painless that goes away on its own, and doctors themselves have no incentive to study something that requires no therapy!

[@colowaa]

yeah have had ocular migraines for like 3 years almost every day, never any pain, headaches are exceptionally rare even, and ive only had migraine auras twice in my life

[@nancycarter5101]

I’ve had ocular migraines for years…never saw a doctor

[@jar00agr03]

I had my first ocular migraine about 12 hours after a car accident that caused mild whiplash. Luckily it was only the kaleidoscope visual changes and happened shortly before going to sleep, it resolved within 30 minutes, and I never had a headache. Haven’t had one since.

[@makmelaf]

I believe I have migraine aura. 99% of the time it starts as soon as I walk into a store. I think it is triggered by the overhead lighting. I get very bad kaleidoscope vision. That's how I would always describe it to people, now I know I'm not crazy. Normally I will quickly leave the store and it goes away. Recently I tried to work through it in a store and I had a seizure. That was scary. After I was helped up and left the store, I felt better.

[@hamhamuniverse]

This happened to me last night as soon as I entered a grocery store. I'm glad I'm not alone. Maybe we need to start wearing sunglasses lol

[@darcybrummett7004]

Several years ago, I was seeing halos around lights. I especially noticed it in Christmas lights. (It was December.) I went to my ophthalmologist and was told I had an ocular migraine. While I do get migraines once in a while, there was no headache associated with the halos but it was a little annoying.

[@Banana87887]

Sounds more like astigmatism

[@sarabellaj]

I get zigzag flashing strob light kinda thing on the outside of my line of sight a blurry kinda moving patch that effects the lower and mid line of sight no pain happens every couple months and last 30 mins or so.

[@MariannaV]

I have the same. My neurologist put me on cartia (aspirin) and it stopped the auras

[@joshuastoner9727]

Med student here in snowy MN, I had an episode of bilateral scintillation scotoma but no headache whatsoever. Was well hydrated and no identifying trigger except studying by a window with a lot of sunlight bouncing off the snow and a lot of screen time. My brother in law came back from ice fishing in similar conditions and also had the same visual changes. Both situations resolved in under an hour with resting the eyes.

[@txlady1049]

I went for years having ocular migraines. No one believed me. Even this year, I spoke with my optometrist, and he had no idea what I was talking about. Mine starts with a sense of pressure in one eye, along with slight blurring of my vision. Then I get a shimmering circle in the center of my field of vision. At that point, I can see well enough to walk, but not to read or drive. After a few minutes, the shimmering circle starts expanding, eventually reaching the edge of my field of vision and disappearing. My vision will be normal at that point, and there will still be a little bit of pressure in the affected eye, which goes away after a few minutes. There is no pain associated with this.

[@jeffro118]

I had the same issue except I never felt pressure, but otherwise your description is spot on. My optometrist was also no help. I think caffeine tended to trigger them for me, but it wasn't consistent. I started taking fish oil supplements in late 2013 for other reasons, but the occurrence and duration of my ocular migraines began to fall off until now I can't recall when the last episode was, except it has been multiple years. It took a few months to fully work, but the ocular migraines became less frequent and were noticeably shorter in duration when they did occur. I read somewhere that fish oil may increase the elasticity of the blood vessels in your eyes and brain, and if spasming of the blood vessels is what causes this, then perhaps increased elasticity may be what counters it. My theory only, but it has worked for me.

[@reeeseeee]

@jeffro118 same, mine today and when I woke up because of cellphones flashlight, usually mine triggers super bright light. Having anxiet sometimes. Especially when this occurs. Kinda scared tho. Been like this for 7 years, usually once a year but lately it's like once a year anymore.

[@RG.......]

Are you taking any vitamins or treatment to reduce the visual aura migraine? What does your Doc suggest

[@RG.......]

​@@jeffro118 have you figured out what causes the aura? What treatment options are you doing?

[@jeffro118]

@@RG....... I think they probably have multiple triggers, none of which consistently cause them, so you can't definitively say it is this or that. One update is last March I was preparing for a medical procedure, and they recommended stopping all supplements prior. For two weeks I didn't take the fish oil supplement, and I started having a mild episode of one. First time in many years. I restarted the fish oil soon after, and it hasn't happened again. Anecdotal and not scientific, I admit. But there it is.

[@mjgeltz8842]

Was interested in this topic as I have had issues with migraines for a long time. I wish you would slow down your speaking so I could have absorbed more of the information.

[@flamencoprof]

I get migraine aura a few times a year but without any headache or other symptoms. It is purely a visual phenomenon. I will notice a "blank" area in my visual field, exactly at the "fixation" point, while peripheral vision remains unaffected. This blank area slowly expands and becomes surrounded by the shimmering ziz-zaggy effect, which seems to be oriented radially, centred on the blank spot. Then the whole effect slowly expands until the blank spot becomes clear, but still surrounded by the zig-zag shimmering ring. The shimmering ring then slowly dilates and becomes less distinct until it fades out at the edge of the visual field. The whole process takes about 20 minutes. The most disconcerting aspect is if it happens when I am driving on a motorway, and the fixation point is me watching the car ahead, but it is invisible, especially I want to see Brake Lights!

[@DK-zg8ik]

You described the aura perfectly that is exactly how I experience the visual aspect.

[@flamencoprof]

@@DK-zg8ik Thanks. It is interesting that it should be consistent between individuals, when, as I understand it, we all have slightly different brains.

[@KC73]

Excellent description. Exactly what I experience

[@KC73]

What a put blood pressure meds. Mine caused migraines

[@KC73]

I got relief by avoiding aged cheese, smoked meats, lunch meats, citrus, anything aged.

[@shumailakanwal6213]

I was here after a swear attack of migraine with aura. But on seeing your smiling cute face i forgot all my tension. God bless you dear . I think you have some healing power for others.

[@clovislyme6195]

Like many others, I had migraine in my 20s and 30s. They went away, but in recent years I tend to have the zig zag lines in my left eye from time to time, and retinal migraine - whole or partial loss of vision in my right eye (very rarely my left, and never both at the same time), lasting for only a few minutes. The latter is very alarming when first it happens, but now I just relax, close that eye, and it soon clears. Both phenomena can happen at any time - even when I am sleeping. They can occur more than once in a day, or several times a week, then vanish entirely for weeks. I can't find any triggers for them. Over the past few months I had cataract operations and I think (it is early days), that I may be experiencing fewer occurrences of both phenomena - which is contrary to my intuition that they might provoke more.

[@elfo7]

Did you develop floaters or blue field entoptic phenomenon after having these migraines?

[@clovislyme6195]

@@elfo7 I have had many floaters for years (I grow old). I don't usually notice them, and I don't associate migraines with any increase in them. During the minute or two of retinal migraines I sometimes see blue lines or patches if I close the affected eye (as I usually do). They disappear with the end of the migraine.

[@elfo7]

@@clovislyme6195thanks for your answer. Wish you good health.

[@elfo7]

@@clovislyme6195 Thanks for your answer, wish you good health.

[@elfo7]

@@clovislyme6195 thanks for the answer, good health for you

[@sinstarussunniva6890]

I have ocular auras. I've spoken with two other doctors, a neurologist, and orthologist. neither knew what I was saying and then here it is. my aura goes well with my extremely loud tinnitus

[@scottsutoob]

I think what I have are ocular migraine. I see a shimmering "C" shape. it is very hard to tell if it is both eyes or one. It has only happened 3 or 4 times over the last two years so figuring out triggers is hard. Usually after a lot of focused screen time. There is never any headache with it, and the weirdest thing is they last exactly 20 minutes. I can look at a clock when it starts and tell you when it will end. It doesn't fade away either, it just stops suddenly. I have cataracts. Would they trigger this since there is some eye strain from trying to focus on screen work?

[@eh6454]

My experience is very similar to yours, in that I get a shimmering 'C' shape, which gradually grows bigger. It's nigh-on impossible to tell if it's in both eyes or one, as it's visible whether eyes are open or closed. It lasts around 20 minutes, until it gets too large to be contained within my field of vision. It's never associated with a headache. My father experiences this, too, apparently.

[@DollyNipples]

​@@eh6454I've experienced this in both eyes. It happens very rarely and I hope it won't ever happen when I'm driving on the freeway (though that's one incentive to drive slowly and keep a few car lengths away from the vehicle in front of me) and I want to know what to do in case that happens.

[@eh6454]

@@DollyNipples The good thing is that the visual anomaly starts off very small, so if you’re on the road when it begins, you have time to get yourself to a safe place to pull over and wait for it to pass. Here in the UK, the motorways have a ‘hard shoulder’ you can pull over onto in case of emergency, but I would prefer a services car park to that, for safety. Fortunately, it has never happened to me when driving.

[@vincentlynch3652]

Great video! You do a great job. Finally I have some understanding of my aura migraines.

[@avatarcowboy2435]

Diagnosed with occular migraine many years ago. No headache, no other discomfort. Most often occurs when looking at computer screens. Sudden onset, lasts 10 to 30 minutes. I rest with eyes closed during an episode, if at all possible. Better to "see" the patterns on the inside of my eyelids. Computer work stops as words and shapes on the screen become distorted. Driving or operating machinery is a no-no. If driving I pull over as quick as safely possible, Can go many months without one or sometimes would have a few episodes in a month.

[@Michelle.M.G]

Same symptoms as many reported here: curved, flashing lights that distorts whatever you are looking at/ trying to read. I have had multiple episodes per month since 2008; wearing blue light blocking glasses (amber ones) makes a huge difference for me!

[@Jjoa1]

CELERY JUICE 3-5 times saved me from the aura.I have not had it since! Preferably organic celery. I used to get aura attacks weekly, and after I discovered celery juice Im 100 % fine. If too many days passes between my juices I may start to get pre warnings, I then drink a full glass and it goes right away! It does not always help against migraine, but the aura is gone thank God!

[@xomikey5725]

thank you i will try this celery juice 3-5 times a day ? or week?

[@Jjoa1]

Per week, use the whole stack, leafs and everything, make sure its organic

[@gypsylizardqueen8572]

Celery juice can cause photosensitivity…. Along with being exceptionally high in oxalates…. I’d avoid it

[@thefreckledafrikan]

WEEKLY????????? 😮😮😮😮😮😮 😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@Venomule]

I had an ocular migraine a few years ago and couldn't bare the pain. Only for it to happen again yesterday when I tried on a new pair of sunglasses with NEW prescription lenses, then switching to my old prescription normal glasses a few minutes later. I lost my peripheral vision out of one eye and I instantly recognized the sensation. When my vision came back, the NASTIEST headache came and I couldn't keep my eyes open at all without any light hurting my head at all.

[@dawnliphard9591]

I am not prone to migraines, however I have been experiencing the jagged light (auras)for years. It’s annoying as it hinders my reading or tv watching and to an extent my driving. It usually starts on one side of the eye and moves across until it fades out.

[@madhatter5331]

I've had these symptoms as a 9yr old.No rhyme or reason to trigger it ,but luckily it doesn't happen alot while driving. Fast forward as a older adult, it still happens only in one eye. I just live with it and go on living life.

[@joywebster2678]

Colored lenses in screen viewing or in sunlight really help. Yellow helps both.

[@eileenmcgann1043]

I was terrified when I started getting aura episodes, jagged lights crossing my field of vision on 20 minutes or so. At its most severe, unable to read. Haven't had an episode in years. Put it down to stress and menopause

[@VickiBowers]

I've experienced scintillating scotoma (both eyes) on occasion since my teens, but have almost never had the debilitating headache to follow. Scared the heck out of me until we figured out what it was. Recently, though, life has added the monocular effect of a blind spot, fringed with glittering light in just ONE eye, that usually dissipates within 15-20 minutes. Often looks a lot like the scintillating scotomas I've experienced in both eyes most of my life, except it's just in one eye, and the blind spot is more opaque. THAT frightened me the first time I noticed it. I figured at first that it must be some hella floater, even though they're different from the way I know floaters. Your suggestion about keeping an event diary sounds very helpful, and I will certainly arrange to keep such a diary for myself going forward. Thank you for making this video!

[@jupiterlove76]

What about shimmering in both eyes equally in the peripheral vision only in very bright light. Never in dim or low light?

[@susancrawford5927]

Bright white light can trigger this. Always wear sunglasses in white open spaces, like drug stores or Walmart's etc. First time this happened to me along with stuttering and under stress, I thought I was having a stroke. It went away once I went into the natural light, sat down and closed my eyes for a few minutes. I still get these every so often.

[@jupiterlove76]

@@susancrawford5927 this is every single time i go into bright light.

[@417cycleguy]

Just listening to you causes me stress and maybe a migraine!! Please… SLOW DOWN!!!

[@allysonburns6214]

Tap the settings gear icon, go to playback speed and tap the one up from normal, .75. It help me alot!

[@RG.......]

Thanks for sharing Doc - I have the same symptoms with no headache. Went to my Eye doc and he suggested I should get an MRI? Is that really required? I have no other symptoms, but the very thought of going into that MRI machine is making me very anxious and stressed. When exactly is an MRI scan recommended, what are the res flags?

[@ritahall8148]

I have experienced episodes of migraine aura for several years and never considered getting an MRI or seeing a doctor about it. I learned about this condition from a neighbor who described his symptoms to me a few years before I started getting them. They are somewhat more frequent now, occurring at about 1 or 2 month intervals, no pain or headache, just zigzags preceded by blind spots.

[@RG.......]

@@ritahall8148 Are you doing anything to manage the condition? Have you figured out what triggers them?

[@RG.......]

​@@ritahall8148 have you figured out what causes the aura? What treatment options are you doing?

[@ritahall8148]

@@RG....... I don't do anything about the aura except maybe lie down for a few minutes until my vision returns to normal. I do not worry at all about this peculiar condition.

[@RG.......]

@@ritahall8148 Oh you don't worry about it?? I'm scared out of my head, it's a terrible feeling for those 15 minutes. How often do you get this?

[@terismidt4920]

I get migraines every time it rains. I get what I call orbs on the sides of my eyes a lot. I also get what feels like one eye is bouncing around. I ask people around me if they can see it bouncing, and they say no. Thank you for this video.

[@MMAdiehardfan]

Have you been evaluated by a Retina specialist aka ophthalmologist

[@krystalmarie3887]

Anyone else here with a migraine ?? xD

[@JasonTryingToHelp-w3p]

THIS MAY HELP SOME PEOPLE I'm 54. April 2, 2023 I had my first aura (without headache). Since then I've had 4-5 episodes per month (41 in total); sometimes twice in one day. I had an MRI and a visit to an Ophthalmologist; everything was fine. On April 11, 2024 I had a very unusual episode- a scary one. The entire field of vision was moving left to right and back again- bouncing side to side. It lasted a few hours and then it resolved. It never reoccurred but it scared me. I wanted to see if there was anything I could do to stop the aura so I made some changes: I was taking a blood thinner (Xarelto 10mg) and multivitamins (one-a-day vitamin, fish oil, saw palmeto, vitamin D tablet- nothing strange)- taken on the same day. I decided to both space them out and separate them. I now take the blood thinner on Monday, Wednesday, Friday afternoon and Sunday morning. I take the vitamins Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. I initiated this spacing on April 20. My last aura was on May 23. I haven't had an aura in 78 days and counting! I'm not sure if I was taking too many blood thinners, too many multivitamins, or it was the interaction between the two. I did read later that multivitamins, while being useless can also interact with medication. I no longer take that multivitamin tablet at all now. No one told me that auras could be caused by the interaction of medications/vitamins. I hope this helps some people!

[@eonreeves4324]

Things to avoid: "Changes in weather" "Stress" lol

[@eonreeves4324]

@@user-me1971 it def has something to do with the alignment of the stars.. there is no avoiding them

[@kaylasmusic]

I get these ocular headaches too and it’s so frustrating

[@stlounsbury]

I get the Zigzag aura in both eyes since I was 16. I’m 64 now. I get them weekly since 16. I take sumatriptan. Also avoid foods that have aged protein (Tyramines ?) and that helps keep them at bay.

[@tpbchocoholic]

Thank you for posting this and clarifying these conditions; very helpful- eduction is key.

[@barbaramelady110]

Thank YOU DR. great explanation

[@A.S.K.1]

I started getting Migraine Aura (both eyes, but with NO headache or other symptoms) a few of decades back. They started out of the blue - for no apparent reason. A spot right in the centre of my vision, when trying to read... it was like the central letter or two of a word just didn't exist.. the rest of the word/text was fine. Then the really bright, jagged /zigzag - shimmery rainbow (and they were actually arced as well) lines, would start at the left side of my eyes (both of them) and slowly move across my field of vision to the right side of my eyes, and then would disappear. It happened at first only once: then a few times, each year. The it stopped as suddenly as it started. Haven't had it happen in over 20 years. I knew what it was eventually, as I have my eyes tested every year and they are always fine... apart from age related changes. Which sucks; but IIWII.

[@rinpocherags3169]

I had untreatable migraine aura for months. MRI was normal, so it was just chalked up to migraines. Three days later I had a very large stroke. Sometimes assuming migraines as its own condition is dangerous.

[@alaskabarb8089]

As with many other folks, my auras begin with a visual deficit similar to the kind one has for a few seconds following a camera photo flash. The aura then progresses into an undulating sawtooth pattern, moving widening peripherally; at that point, the central field of vision is visible again, accompanied by some occasional nausea or mild disorientation. In about 15-20 minutes, the peripheral undulating sawtooth pattern subsides. On rare occasions, when my body was under moderate/high stress (hiking/climbing or emotional) I developed hemiplegic migraine, just before the cessation of the aura phase. I thought I was having a stroke, after noticing unilateral partial facial numbness and confusion. I was sedated with Demerol and don’t remember much for about 20 hours. I had some residual problems recognizing written 3s and Es for a few days post-incident, before a complete recovery. In my case, stopping activity, lying down for about 20 minutes until the aura completely resolves, has resulted in no further hemiplegic incidents. A completely different “ocular” symptom is unilateral double vision, or inability one of the affected eye to focus. My ophthalmologist called it an “ocular migraine,” which resulted in temporary macular swelling, for about 12-24 hours. Has anyone else had this problem? Best wishes to other migraneurs. I hope there are effective treatments for you now. ❤️🌈 My generation had ergotamine tartrate, pain meds, and a lot of misery.

[@MicheleHaan]

Upper cervical chiropractic is an instant relief for me when I get a migraine. Apparently I have an abnormality in a cervical (neck) vertebrae that tends to make people prone to migraines-and yes, a lot of family members with migraines. I have laid down on the adjusting table with a blinding aura and intense headache, gotten an adjustment and sat up 30 seconds later completely aura and pain free.

[@josssolimov7010]

very good information set out in an understandable way. Thank you

[@Dfoto679]

I’ve had severe migraines since I was 20 years old with tremendous auras of flashing lights and smells. I actually end up losing my sight and hearing and the left side of my face and arm becomes like a stroke Now that I’m older in my 70s they’ve changed and I get a grid of dots in my eyes. My ophthalmologist said this is an ocular migraine. This is something entirely new for me, how it’s changed as I’ve aged

[@beckasmith6725]

I started getting migraines when i went on birth control for the first time. I would get the aura/flashing lights, which i described as the test pattern in the old black and white TVs. It usually affected only one eye (for that episode), but i could see with my peripheral vision. If i could get home before the headache started and get into a dark room, it was somewhat better, but once my headache lasted three days, with horrible nausea. I got put on cafergot, but that just made the nausea worse without diminishing the headache. As i got older, the frequency and severity of the headache. Nowadays, if i get a couple aspirin before the aura fully develops, i don't get the headache. Neither Tylenol nor ibuprofen have any effect on the pain, and never have.

[@LolaInTheDesert]

My aura presents as Scintillating Scotoma. It’s like a big black spot that is shimmering…makes it impossible for me to see an object in its entirety. Comes in without warning.

[@TinaLee2042]

I’ve had aura for years. When I started getting flashers and floaters as I aged, I freaked out… but no headache followed. I still get aura and can tell the difference luckily.