SILK PRESS USING OLAPLEX ON HEAT TRAINED HAIR | NO HEAT DAMAGE| NATURAL HAIR

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Shell Talks Hair

Shell Talks Hair

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Loves, hope you enjoyed this silk press video. I silk press my hair every 2 weeks but I do take breaks in between to give it a break. Any questions, leave them in the comment section.
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@shakiragamble1594
@shakiragamble1594 2 жыл бұрын
Your hair is beautiful ❤️ I can see you easily reaching waist length!Do you have a length goal or are you maintaining?
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! And yes I’d like to be waist length 🤞🏾
@dee.b.2210
@dee.b.2210 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelltalkshair just beautiful, so what products do you use to keep your hair straight for a month? and what do you do with your hair at night?
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
@@dee.b.2210 My hair is trained pretty well to stay straight so I don’t use any products for those first 2-3 weeks of getting a silk press after that I use my growth oil on my scalp and ends. I wrap my hair every night until it gets old then I just wear a loose pony with a satin scrunchy.
@dee.b.2210
@dee.b.2210 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelltalkshair Ok thanks for sharing I will check your growth oil out.
@quitaphillips
@quitaphillips 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelltalkshair what do you do to your hair when working out?
@GlitterSkies
@GlitterSkies 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who heat trains but keeps their curls 🙌🏽
@Olaplex
@Olaplex 2 жыл бұрын
Your hair looks amazing! Thank you so much for including us in your #selfcareforhair 💜
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow... thank you Olaplex❤️❤️❤️
@Olaplex
@Olaplex 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelltalkshair Our pleasure!
@MiracleChild3
@MiracleChild3 Жыл бұрын
So gorgeous! I love that you do the heat trained AND curly hair! Best of both!❤
@quadraticequation8595
@quadraticequation8595 Жыл бұрын
I love your technique because you do what’s best for YOU! I used to be one of those natural nazis with myself, but I’ve been silk pressing for about 2 years now and I absolutely love my curl pattern now. Doing my hair is sooooo much easier.
@briannaje5419
@briannaje5419 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is blessing me… my hair has been acting up. Shedding like crazy.
@MsChicoro
@MsChicoro 2 жыл бұрын
Your hair is beautiful. I just started using Olaplex 0 and Olaplex 3, last week. Great tip to use water to spread it out. It is obviously working for you. Wow! Your hair looks like silk.
@wuvvgigi
@wuvvgigi 2 жыл бұрын
you should make a video on how you make your silk presses last long! love the results by the way 🤍
@jhardywhitxoo
@jhardywhitxoo 2 жыл бұрын
I BELIEVE!🤩 You got it figured out for sure. After seeing coils in your hair as your hair reverted. Woooo that not easy like at all. I need to soak up this knowledge. New Subbie!
@Booksisfun
@Booksisfun 2 жыл бұрын
Your hair looks so healthy and beautiful on both styles.
@feliciadunn644
@feliciadunn644 2 жыл бұрын
Your hair looks so gorgeous! Nice job on your hair!
@aprgwy
@aprgwy 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely ❤ how detailed you are❣️
@Sisima13
@Sisima13 2 жыл бұрын
Well damn ! This is the most beautiful heat trained hair I’ve ever seen 👀
@cJroma316
@cJroma316 2 жыл бұрын
Your mane is absolutely gorgeous! Thick, shiny, and healthy!
@simplymonica6888
@simplymonica6888 2 жыл бұрын
I don't straighten my hair, but I have pulled on it to see the length, and it is the same length as yours. It's nice to see how it'd look if I straightened mine. I believe the last time I got it straightened was about 3-4 years ago. Yours came out so nice.
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@GENRTS
@GENRTS 2 жыл бұрын
I should try it out, we have pretty similar hair type and density. Btw i found that the heated brushes really aid in easily smoothing sections before flatironing.
@amommyintime
@amommyintime 2 жыл бұрын
So glad I found this channel ! Subscribed and left with a new hair growth oil 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@Cam23._
@Cam23._ 2 жыл бұрын
Your hair looks so healthy🤩✨🙌🏾
@laer.393
@laer.393 2 жыл бұрын
a new heat trained natural channel right as i’m thinking about heat training? youtube recommended came through for me today
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Yasss 🙌🏾
@miriamlove5845
@miriamlove5845 2 жыл бұрын
Such beautiful hair and skin!
@j.michellebeauty
@j.michellebeauty Жыл бұрын
Your hair turned out so pretty 😍 and I most definitely don’t use 450 on my hair because that’s exactly how I got heat damage!
@mstaylormonae
@mstaylormonae 2 жыл бұрын
Your hair looks sooo good! 😍
@BriannaMelissa
@BriannaMelissa 2 жыл бұрын
Came out so effortlessly wow 😍
@sierralafaye
@sierralafaye 2 жыл бұрын
You did such a great job! Your hair is gorgeous!!
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@akiyatiffany
@akiyatiffany 2 жыл бұрын
You’re so pretty & you’re hair is beautiful and so healthy
@ashleyscott4028
@ashleyscott4028 2 жыл бұрын
You just gained a subscriber. Love your work
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Appreciate you subscribing ☺️
@Msleelee9487
@Msleelee9487 Жыл бұрын
I want to try this product I never straighten my hair due to fear of heat damage but this product looks great if you use it right you got great results ❤️ I wish you were in Texas😀
@Tionaintown876
@Tionaintown876 2 жыл бұрын
The end result is perfection
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Aww thank you ☺️
@mschelle2762
@mschelle2762 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heat settings information
@MrSynhair
@MrSynhair 2 жыл бұрын
Looking absolutely beautiful ♥️♥️♥️
@Pineapple-zj3nx
@Pineapple-zj3nx 2 жыл бұрын
straight to the point. gorgeous..👏👏👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! ❤️
@dez700
@dez700 Жыл бұрын
I Would really love to hear your thoughts on the color wow heat protectant spray for doing a silk press. 🙏🏾 Your hair looks beautiful and your videos are really helping me create a routine for my first silk press in 5 years.
@marialugo3767
@marialugo3767 Жыл бұрын
I used it yesterday. The way they put a hole on the cap, it actually goes along way. I still have some
@MelissaKimm
@MelissaKimm Жыл бұрын
Beautiful result! What are your thoughts about Revair tool?
@TwinGodesses
@TwinGodesses 2 жыл бұрын
Love olaplex products! Your hair looks great!
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@dev7386
@dev7386 2 жыл бұрын
Im obsessed with your channel! Hope you see this since its an older video. Do you use protein treatments? Im high porosity and I want to start heat training. Want to incorporate more bond builders and im currently using curlsmith bond salve biweekly. Would you recommend more protein than just that product?? Thanks!
@Danajanene
@Danajanene 2 жыл бұрын
This is my first time seeing you. When you said you use this on your clients. I was like what? Clients what? You sitting up here looking like you are in high school. You have a new sub...your hair turned out really pretty.
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Lol thank you!
@monifeaw9649
@monifeaw9649 Жыл бұрын
Looks so pretty
@neshaa02
@neshaa02 2 жыл бұрын
your hair is beautiful ❤
@annoverton706
@annoverton706 Жыл бұрын
Very beautiful hair. Yes, I would like to set up an appointment! I have some questions and concerns.
@tinamckoy8459
@tinamckoy8459 2 жыл бұрын
You have some beautiful hair 😍
@tameashajanaye3200
@tameashajanaye3200 2 жыл бұрын
Your hair is so beautiful I subscribed
@natashahammon1778
@natashahammon1778 2 жыл бұрын
👏 Beautiful healthy hair
@prettylady818
@prettylady818 2 жыл бұрын
The straight hair is beautiful but that curly fro right before you blow dry 😍
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Yassss I love them both ❤️
@astrochick6171
@astrochick6171 2 жыл бұрын
Don't mind me, just mentally preparing to take out my braids & have to detangle my hair again after three months. My hair is very similar to yours in texture, density & length. Excited to straighten & trim it but I'm not excited to dodge rain, wrap it several times before a shower & hear people ask "is that a wig?" Beautiful results! You're also gorgeous 😊
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
I know the feeling lol and thank you!
@Cantetinza17
@Cantetinza17 2 жыл бұрын
I've always struggled with silk pressing. I'll raise my temp from 420 to 430. I have a ceramic flat iron.
@chloenunoo2610
@chloenunoo2610 2 жыл бұрын
What are your olaplex must haves? I have 4a/4b fine hair but I am interested in heat training
@shannonarmstrong6364
@shannonarmstrong6364 2 жыл бұрын
Such a gorgeous ABUNDANCE of hair
@tyracrenshaw4724
@tyracrenshaw4724 2 жыл бұрын
When curling your hair, do you straighten your hair first, then go back in and curl with the flatirons? Do I need to add extra heat protectant?
@canigetit2008
@canigetit2008 2 жыл бұрын
beautiful!
@Silena94
@Silena94 2 жыл бұрын
What brand of shears do you recommend for trimming?
@lakeithadixon-paul4389
@lakeithadixon-paul4389 Жыл бұрын
How often should one use the 0 and 3 together. I used #3 in the past but I believe I overdid it and it led to breakage. I'd love to start over and do it the correct way.
@Barnes247
@Barnes247 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried K18 yet instead of Olaplex? Thanks. 💕
@sophiasmith1760
@sophiasmith1760 2 жыл бұрын
What was the name of the flat iron you used in this video
@MrsNicecamera
@MrsNicecamera 8 ай бұрын
If I had to choose between a paddle brush and a denman brush for blow drying, which would be the better option for textured or 4c hair?
@Haileaux1
@Haileaux1 4 ай бұрын
Any tips for the gym? Beautiful btw❤
@jasminewilliams1519
@jasminewilliams1519 Жыл бұрын
I know I’m super late seeing this video, but do you have any recommendations for dry brittle crown area hair?, I find that my crown is always dry and more kinky than the rest of my hair
@saramendes4306
@saramendes4306 Жыл бұрын
Hello good afternoon, please can you tell me how you make your growth oil?
@MsRobin-rt4jm
@MsRobin-rt4jm 2 жыл бұрын
Hi where do you get the olaplex mask?
@patriciafuller3516
@patriciafuller3516 2 жыл бұрын
Great silkpress
@mehr0304
@mehr0304 2 жыл бұрын
Hello.... what straightener are you using?
@lisalee8334
@lisalee8334 2 жыл бұрын
What can I use to give my hair more body?
@peaceandpink8364
@peaceandpink8364 2 жыл бұрын
Does your scalp get itchy when you straighten it? I don’t know why I feel like my hair is more itchy
@karthompson1280
@karthompson1280 2 жыл бұрын
How do you maintain straight hair for a month
@HaiNanaForever
@HaiNanaForever 2 жыл бұрын
How long have you been heat trained for? Your hair is so beautiful 😍. I'm thinking about heat training too but need more education on the care aspect.
@8MauLau23
@8MauLau23 Жыл бұрын
Can I do a trim on just blow dried hair not silk pressed?
@vonnechik362
@vonnechik362 2 жыл бұрын
So for me I’ve been natural for about 6 yrs my issue is maintaining a regimen for summer months vs winter im here in buffalo ny and the winter is the best for straight and the summer is just amazing for my natural curly hair. Now given I only silk press maybe twice n the winter and let them last about 2-4 weeks so I can cleanse but that heat damage oweee maybe I need olaplex ? Just do explensivemdo u feel it’s worth it
@Lovelyp33
@Lovelyp33 2 жыл бұрын
How do I trim my ends myself
@rachelwagoner4187
@rachelwagoner4187 2 жыл бұрын
How do make your hair 🤔 thicker?
@EmpressChunkybabii
@EmpressChunkybabii Жыл бұрын
Should you put a leave-in in your hair before you silk press??
@moreriah705
@moreriah705 2 жыл бұрын
I love straightening my hair and am scared of heat damage. Can you make a video talking about how you avoid heat damage and what's the difference between a ceramic flat iron and a titanium flat iron?
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
I did.. it’s the last video I uploaded on my page ❤️
@LMSupreme39
@LMSupreme39 2 жыл бұрын
Ur hair is beautiful 😍
@Magique88888
@Magique88888 10 ай бұрын
How long did it take you to get more heat trained, I am trying to see if I can commit to this because I really want your result or something similar?
@bellefairydust
@bellefairydust 2 жыл бұрын
So silky!
@missn.a.ndlovu3322
@missn.a.ndlovu3322 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, you are more beautiful when you wear your hair curly than when silk pressed. You should wear your hair curly more often.
@everlyngathoni3027
@everlyngathoni3027 2 жыл бұрын
So therapeutic
@Kweennicolee
@Kweennicolee 2 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous 😍
@tracibryant4511
@tracibryant4511 2 жыл бұрын
Your hair looks great. What serum do you use and s that a special brush?
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I use biosilk serum and the brush is a denman brush
@desirehernandez3401
@desirehernandez3401 2 жыл бұрын
YOURE HAIR LOOKS SO GOOD💗 i have a question. Whenever i try to get my hair this straight , it always immediately frizzes up. What are some suggestions to combat that? Should i sit in a cooler area?
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, it can be for many reasons. I mostly see it’s because people don’t get trims often. Having a lot of split ends can cause hair to frizz up, could also be because the hair is dry and deprived of moisture or you have active sweat glands or the hair is not heat trained. These are some of the reasons this could be why it’s happening.
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
And yes a lot of humidity can cause this as well.
@ayooKondom
@ayooKondom 2 жыл бұрын
Try the Paul Mitchell Super Skinny Serum, it’s fantastic for frizz and I live in Florida
@ravenmorgan8109
@ravenmorgan8109 2 жыл бұрын
I just started following you and I love your work. If you had to choose 5 top shampoos & conditioner as well as heat protection products which ones would you recommend?
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
I really like olaplex shampoo and hair mask, Aveda cherry almond shampoo and conditioner and briogeo matcha green tea conditioner and shampoo. Those are my top favs.
@ravenmorgan8109
@ravenmorgan8109 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelltalkshair thank you for your feedback I love to do silk presses but it’s always been finding the right products that I have struggled with.
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
@@ravenmorgan8109 ohhh for silk presses I would recommend the olaplex shampoo and hair mask but use a detox shampoo like Paul Mitchell first. The other two products I mentioned are good for when you want to wear curly styles.
@ravenmorgan8109
@ravenmorgan8109 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelltalkshair thank you
@kennedyparker1715
@kennedyparker1715 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! New subbie! Would you recommend titanium flat irons for heat trained naturals? I would say my hair is in between fine and medium and seems to be prone to breakage. I started using Olaplex to help prevent further damage. I want to flat iron my hair every two weeks and I hear mixed reviews about titanium irons. Thank you!
@Kedesh14
@Kedesh14 2 жыл бұрын
She recommended using ceramic flat iron over titanium if you’re not a professional or have a good knowledge on how to use the titanium one as those tend to increase the chance of getting heat damage
@babyallen1232
@babyallen1232 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful hair thts alot
@jaDOREbella23
@jaDOREbella23 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Hair… I have been trying to grow my hair out i have fine thin natural hair my dilemma is I always get a gap in my hair whenever i get a little length the hair that lays on my shoulders is always long where as the hair in the middle(nape area) is extremely shorter. I do wear sock buns often which I believe one of the issues but I have cut my hair even about 4 times and no matter what it always grows with the gap in the back. Is their anything I can do to get it to grow full and even I’m tired of growing it and then cutting? I asked my stylist and she just said my hair probably grows slower in that area which is a possibility but I don’t think that the main issue I’m not sure what to do please help… Thank you!
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, typical when I see this it’s because of buns and ponytails. I would stay away from any ponytail or bun for a while. If you do want to wear one use a silk scrunchy and have it very loose.
@wheresraven_
@wheresraven_ 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime I straighten my hair it always looks like it's still blowed dryed( puffy) , I don't know if I'm not blow drying Long enough or if I'm straightening my hair wrong.i need help (my profile pic is when I got my hair done on September 6th 2021 , I went to the Dominicans) that's how I want my hair to look like when I straighten it but I dosent work when I do it ? I need answers
@Danieei
@Danieei 2 жыл бұрын
It might be your blow dryer or how your blow drying your hair
@andrina94
@andrina94 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Do you take any hair vitamins? 😊
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
No, I try to eat whatever food source I’m lacking as far as any nutrient deficiencies.
@LA-jy4sc
@LA-jy4sc 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Video, how did you get your Hair so long? Do you use the water- oil Methode ?✨
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I keep my hair on a consistent routine and use my hair growth oil. You can see my growth on my product Instagram page.
@LA-jy4sc
@LA-jy4sc 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@BiancaFox
@BiancaFox 2 жыл бұрын
How often do you straighten your hair in the winter months? This is what I’m planning to start doing with my hair. Your curls look great still!!
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
I do it about every 2-3 weeks but I’ll still take a month or 2 break somewhere in between September-April
@BiancaFox
@BiancaFox 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelltalkshair so you do it back to back? And Thank you for responding
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
@@BiancaFox yes and Yw ❤️
@cherylbrantley4736
@cherylbrantley4736 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t get trims in sooner I would say 8 to 12 weeks depending on your hair and , make sure they only remove bare minimum otherwise you won’t see any growth.
@phoebechristina
@phoebechristina Жыл бұрын
Hi! how do you prevent the burnt hair smell when flat ironing it on high heat? I use heat protectants and make sure that my hair is completely dry but it still happens
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair Жыл бұрын
You could be using to much product or the wrong products.
@phoebechristina
@phoebechristina Жыл бұрын
@@shelltalkshair thank you!
@Toya123
@Toya123 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any tips for dandruff? I’ve tried just about everything. Love this video btw
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Are your follicles blocked? Are you using any grease or heavy oils on your scalp?
@Toya123
@Toya123 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelltalkshair They could be. I do use tea tree oil to minimize flaking.What do you recommend?
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
@@Toya123 try using a scalp scrub once a month to remove any products and dead skin cells. I like briogeo scrub. Wash your hair once a week and don’t use any heavy oils or grease.
@Toya123
@Toya123 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelltalkshair Ok. Thanks so much for responding 😊
@Voe646
@Voe646 Жыл бұрын
My hair is too hard to straighten. It fights me back.
@aignersmith1035
@aignersmith1035 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me the name of the flat iron used in this video is called?
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Its a babyliss titanium flat iron
@aignersmith1035
@aignersmith1035 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelltalkshair Thank you!
@susanx6782
@susanx6782 Жыл бұрын
i don’t know what i’m doing wrong, i blowdried my hair using revlon then straightened it at 200°c and my hair still looked all big and blow dried but with flatter roots, i wanted more of a straight look but idk what i’m doing wrong. i put it at 220°c but i thought it was too hot i was so scared of burning my scalp helppp my mom said that overtime it will be easier to get straight but idk i do have very thick hair though
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair Жыл бұрын
Don’t use the revlon dryer before straightening. It won’t give a proper blowout for a silk press
@jessicas9844
@jessicas9844 2 жыл бұрын
How do you keep it straight for a month? Do you not wash it?
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
I can keep it straight because I don’t have scalp issues or active sweat glands. And no I don’t wash it. This isn’t something I do often tho.
@tyeshahoward651
@tyeshahoward651 2 жыл бұрын
Will you be restocking your hair growth oil? I wanna try it
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Yes... I’ll update you guys when it’s available ❤️
@KoriDaze
@KoriDaze 2 жыл бұрын
I straightened my hair only once a month and still got heat damage ☹️ what’s the secret to you pressing it every two weeks and still able to maintain your curl pattern ?
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
I have a video up explaining how I did it. It’s my second to last video. Was your hair healthy before using heat? And did you use ceramic tools on low heat?
@sophinitea
@sophinitea 2 жыл бұрын
My hair is thin, whenever I straighten it I look like a wet dog. How do I get body in my hair. I trim my hair every 3 months at least.
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
You can get body by doing curls or feathering the hair. If you can, use a round brush to blow dry and blow dry the roots in a upward direction.
@sophinitea
@sophinitea 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelltalkshair thank you❣️
@HairByPierre
@HairByPierre 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I just got a silk press and I bought #3 and didn’t know anything about the others. I might get some of the other products now. Thank you! Do you use Olaplex before and after straightening?
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please get the others I mentioned in the video and leave them on for the same amount of time! It’s 3x more effective if you use #0 before #3. And I typically like to use olaplex after I straighten.
@HairByPierre
@HairByPierre 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelltalkshair thanks so much for replying okay I’ll do just that!
@IamParalegal
@IamParalegal 2 жыл бұрын
Are you saying you don’t wash your hair for a month? How do you keep it from smelling and from reverting?
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
Yes about a month but I don’t do this often. I don’t sweat a lot and my hair is trained so I don’t have a problem with it reverting.
@mjchronicles1438
@mjchronicles1438 2 жыл бұрын
Hello !my hair used to always straighten really good with little to no products. I’ve been natural all my life until I mistakenly put a keratin straightening treatment in it which damaged my curls . My curls were gone and I had to regain my coiled curly texture(I’ll say about 3 yrs after the incident). Since then , when I try to do silk presses at home like I used to , it does not straighten the same . It looks like a grandma press . I even use the same type of flatiron you used in your video here and the hair just does not seem to get silky like it used to . What do you suggest I do ? Or what products should I be using ? I Have 3c4a type hair.
@shelltalkshair
@shelltalkshair 2 жыл бұрын
If it’s been 3 years you may still have the keratin treatment on your hair towards the mid shaft and ends depending on how long your hair is. Also, if you have gained a lot of split ends during those 3 years it’ll make your hair appear frizzy, dry and dull. Have you gotten trims and treatment during those 3 years?
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