Michelle Dowd on Surviving Growing Up in Her Family's Cult

JRE #2137 w/Michelle Dowd
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[@jopo7996]

This is interesting, but I need to know what Michelle thinks about the Younger Dryas Period and lost civilizations.

[@mshoemaker11]

....And cold plunges

[@MLG85]

Hahaha. Me too

[@archangelgabriel5316]

and what she would do if she met a bear.

[@danielmeuler2877]

And how much DMT has she smoked?

[@timothyoconnor5734]

But does she practice jiu-jitsu? How is she in the clench?

[@MJ-ip7oj]

Joe- “oh my god” Blows smoke into her face 😂

[@porterhouse7260]

hahaaaa

[@kylebarna9148]

Popped for that too. Thankfully, he's got smoke-eater(s)

[@TheLadyFrom513]

I was just thinking the same like did that really just slowly go in her face lol

[@rachelgee7894]

I don’t think it’s in her face, just in front of the camera

[@Thegoldencar10]

Hahaha y’all are crazy!

[@alwayshatin3973]

Oh wow it happened in California how weird

[@dizzleslaunsen2372]

Manson also happened in California. I mean a lot of weird shit going on in the valley at these times……very strange either way.

[@kittykai2243]

😂😂😂😂

[@Zekethenub1]

Human beings. They create chaos wherever they go.

[@natinatyoutube]

Very true. And the opposite is ALSO true: humans also save lives, help, heal and protect other humans, even animals. Since both side are equally true, we can all decided which one we want to focus on...

[@jesiah391]

Ur mom. She creates chaos wherever she goes.

[@Mk2fSaloon]

"They're gay for the stay" 😂

[@edwardsanchez3708]

I think my 2 cats are in a cult

[@jbred6049]

LOL! Please stop.

[@ejford5083]

Hmmm I wonder if my cats are in the same one as yours 🤔 caught mine the other day sitting with other cats in a circle sniffing nip

[@bushman9315]

1st rule of cat cult is....never talk about cat cult.

[@BarARanchMason]

They just called me on the phone. They know you are on to them. RUN 🏃‍♂️

[@whatevenisthisfor]

They are

[@BIGREDTECH]

Everyone making comments about Joe blowing smoke at her while she’s smoking😂

[@tonybagodonutz]

Getting a Catherine O'Hara vibe from her.

[@xneapolisx]

Yes, the borderline hysteria factor is strong with this one!

[@avaadore4492]

KEVIN!

[@CamMacMastermusic]

Great guest. Thanks Joe and Jamie 🎉

[@dercioferreira6169]

I know Jamie doesn't get the credit as much as he should

[@markminor70]

Good interview he does better interviews than news geeks

[@JoeStumbo]

Yet here we all are in the cult of JRE

[@brettg274]

See you at the next ritual sacrifice

[@gavinstillcrazy]

Bring out the owl!

[@Hunter-rh5qc]

Eddie Bravo is the owl

[@adammayo9302]

We are working on the tax status though.

[@whitegd4100]

Was just thinking the same thing

[@BRADLEY856]

My body is a temple. It just needs renovation

[@charliebad]

Ahhh ruins 😂

[@BRADLEY856]

@@charliebad :). This has been said

[@virginianative847]

Joes guest list is an unreal range hahahaha

[@HeyokaGirlSpeaks]

I did family law back in the day and we represented a woman in a cult (The Remnant) whose 2 year old daughter was taken away from her. At that time there were 875 active cults in the US my religious expert advised. It was an interesting case to be involved in but we lost. We weren't surprised ❤

[@catherinegrace2366]

That’s awful. I’m so sorry. Any promise for the future for that child?

[@pocasanchez]

Why was the child taken and who took them?

[@HeyokaGirlSpeaks]

@@pocasanchez dad never returned her after one of his visits. He was a previous member of the cult and he did not want his daughter growing up in it. After a 3 day hearing the judge gave dad sole custody with mom having only supervised visits. It was a hard case because the cult leader was a creep but mom was a good mom. We presented the best case possible but knew that it was tough going. This was decades ago BTW.

[@pocasanchez]

@@HeyokaGirlSpeaks wow, thanks for responding! The mother wanted to stay in the cult? Did she fully understand she was in one? What did the judge have to say about the cult?

[@Mushr88mBreW]

In case y’all memory holed the Spanking Machine, The Simpsons has an old skit with Bart and Millhouse featuring said exact spanking line. 👀

[@allouttabubblegum1984]

They are all Freemasons and the world is a stage all these events are planned therefore people think that the Simpsons somehow predict the future.

[@kylebarna9148]

Homer accidentally joined the Stone-Cutters (Masons) because Grandpa ABRAHAM happened to be a lifetime member. Abe also happened to be the leader of Ghey and Lez society...for some reason he couldnt comprehend.

[@fiendish1875]

An episode of SpongeBob had something like that too, not exactly but something similar

[@stevengrabo]

@@fiendish1875yes

[@theecentralscrutinizer9978]

University of Minnesota Spankological Survey.... One of the best Comedic lines by Ned's Beatnik parents: "We've tried NOTHING, and we're all out of ideas"😂

[@nanying7747]

What a beautiful woman with that killer smile

[@EazyDuz18]

incel

[@JeffreyGlover65]

​@@EazyDuz18you gay? Wtf says incel?

[@Flat_Earth_Addy]

no

[@jesiah391]

LOL

[@bigmig808]

This all goes back to the orphans of the late 1800/early 1900’s that were educated by the weird organizations like The Oddfellows. All men as well. Free mason etc had a huge hand in training these orphans. A lot of them went in to be very successful and influential

[@ruckinehround6965]

At least Joe is curious about everything.

[@goatman1957]

this chick seems cool

[@MisterStifler]

I know right? Like a fun neighbor to swap stories and drink wine with lol

[@Flat_Earth_Addy]

no

[@user-lw1be2vj6e]

Frl tho she seems so happy abt this situation lol😅

[@plantfeeder6677]

Ya she got inked...😑

[@Shane-zx4ps]

I’m waiting for joes fire alarm to go off with the clouds he’s blowing into the ladies face😊

[@HomelessNinjaKennedy]

Being Mormon wasn't as bad as this, but still, I'm feeling something ptsd-esque about my mormon days while listening to this. I'm so glad I got out, and I'm so happy for all the people that escape their unhealthy brainwashing.

[@luckyb4541]

Sounds a lot like the Worldwide Church of God in Pasadena . I survived that cult.

[@cynthiag1557]

I was thinking the same thing, I too survived WCG

[@hjertrudfiddlecock4394]

do any of you feel to tell us a lil more?

[@RadicleMichelle]

Me too!!

[@RadicleMichelle]

@@hjertrudfiddlecock4394google Herbert W Armstrong

[@luckyb4541]

@@hjertrudfiddlecock4394 you got Lots of time?

[@briansierzega]

4:03 … lol 😂

[@Queendomcruz]

Joe blowing huge smoke clouds in her face is killin me lmaoo 😄

[@BRADLEY856]

Daisy chains after skipping and holding hands in the tulips and whistling the theme to Batman🌷

[@lsporter88]

That was some sick sh*t. Cults suck. Great video.

[@janetesantos5143]

Omg! I lived In Pasadena CA for so long- it’s hard to imagine how different other peoples lives can be right near tou-

[@Igor_tigor]

Joe looks hilarious in the thumbnail 😂

[@virginianative847]

It’s always the Boy Scouts man

[@amochswohntet4434]

the last minute 😯

[@taboovsknowledge1603]

Now, think of this on a level of billions of people.

[@jesusurbina1258]

So billions of people claim to be the prophet of God and will lead his armies? 😂😂

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

It *IS* on a level of billions. Beliefs trump (lol) science. Personal biases supercede logic, compassion, honor, justice, etc. Overall, humanity in and of itself IS one gigantic cult. Outliers are mocked, blocked, tr011ed, cajoled, censored, and... lol... "excommunicated". 💪😎✌️ Stay classy, humanity.

[@cobbfutbol62]

No they’re stupid enough to believe the person claiming to be 💀

[@GraduateJLN]

I’m assuming you’re trying to make a joke about religion cause you’re a heathen?

[@crazestyle83]

​@@jesusurbina1258you thinking all of the billions would be THE cult leader is funnier.

[@darkangel13915]

7:02 Is that a SpongeBob reference ?! 😂

[@user-zo6di3by5t]

You take the good you take the bad you take them both and there you have the facts of life x 2...

[@xneapolisx]

This lady speaks so fast, I thought I had my player set at 1.5x speed. Seriously!

[@jesiah391]

Woo woo woo! Lol

[@chuzzrocket]

This is so saddening. For all the kids who grew up in the 70s or 80s.this was common.

[@SamoanHillbilly]

I thought she was the mom from shameless for a sec

[@whitneysmith9314]

I can totally see that!

[@skillz0729]

I love how Joes cloud of smoke completely envelops her 😂

[@Microtonal_Cats]

4:20 Islam banned coffee early on, but then un-banned it. Reason give to un-ban was "Coffee helps you stay up later to pray longer."

[@donjon123]

Islam never banned stop the fuckery

[@Princesss855]

I believe she grew up in a Mormon household not Islam 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@mojukin3018]

Yeah mine too.

[@user-gt5wl3uz9c]

Her facial muscles and the tension of them is insane

[@JakeJ.-yi1du]

I'm pretty sure it's the plastic surgery

[@annacroixx]

@@JakeJ.-yi1du She doesn’t look like she had any plastic surgery. That’s why her face is so expressive. She’s just an attractive older woman.

[@user-gt5wl3uz9c]

@@JakeJ.-yi1du it’s Stressful to watch her face.

[@user-gt5wl3uz9c]

@@annacroixx deluded

[@annacroixx]

@@user-gt5wl3uz9c You’re deluded, and jaded. What do you look like? How old are you? She has crow’s feet, wrinkles on her forehead, under-eye bags, etc. just like Joe. They look roughly about the same age. She might be older.

[@bigvanpapi]

10:17 Cough “Jared Leto” Cough

[@tvviewer4500]

Joe Rogan: How did he pull it off? Also Joe Rogan: I have a cult that I started.

[@Zwizzlesworld]

Full on sponge bob spank line that’s wild

[@johnqdoe]

LOTS of parallels to mainstream political thinking in her stories.

[@CarolJamieson]

Sounds like it could have been a branch of Seventh Day-Adventism. There were many branches that came out of that Millerite Movement in the 1840s. Branch Davidian (Waco) was one.

[@davidjanbaz7728]

Many cults from the Restoration Movement!!!

[@johndoe-fq7ez]

she seems cool af

[@bernardmccole3215]

human beings blow my mind

[@marksamuelsen2750]

Please Interview the guy from The Why Files. Extremely Interesting

[@fu9793]

2:28

[@ricardobjj24]

I don't know Pasadena for a Rose parade I just know Pasadena for being Pasadena

[@davidjanbaz7728]

LOL 😂 you do know the Rose Queen and court come from Pasadena City College and the Rose Floats are put together in Pasadena : try again bud.

[@derekmoody1358]

She meant generally. Geesh.

[@astrogumbo]

She cray

[@TheBorwig]

Never heard of an almond cult before

[@3XTS]

She never Hit that Cigar LOL

[@hubrisnaut]

I lived in S. Cal for 4 years in the '90s. You would be surprised how religious a LOT of people are there. There are Baptist churches (many are huge), and others, all over the place and I heard about strange cults.

[@davidjanbaz7728]

I had a class on cults in Seminary at Biola University: I have papers on many of the cults but I don't remember if anyone in class wrote on this cult; because they obviously were secretive.

[@hubrisnaut]

@@davidjanbaz7728 I knew someone that went to some "program' to be a "Baptist" pastor of when he was young. They did tent revivals in the Midwest. He told me it was all a scam. His conscience finally made him stop.. Pretty despicable to take of advantage of people seeking faith like that.

[@charliebad]

​@@hubrisnautCatholic?

[@jeremyw6246]

​@@charliebadthey're all cults in their own way. Tent revivals though are not catholic, they're famously scams, with those guys who claim to be healers.

[@Lockdown335]

Horrific to say the least....

[@cadamham]

Did he ask her about the DMT entities that sit upon a Bonobo throne?

[@paulwilliams6415]

And bow hunting

[@jopo7996]

It's hilarious that new religious orders are all considered cults, and all the old religions are not.

[@delbomb3131]

There's some differences, but a lot of older variations slightly don't fit a lot of cult models. Look into the bite model.

[@MLG85]

The 'new' are the cults and the old are the crazies!

[@elchronico]

EXACTLY 🙄

[@JinxMarie1985]

There are many Christian and Catholic cults everywhere. Scientology is a cult 100%

[@Clambam]

Yeah and they do weird things like symbolically eat flesh and drink blood and don’t question or you go to hell, just gotta have “faith” 😂😂😂

[@user-wq7yk9fj8p]

some of the statements she has are what our goverment and news preach

[@AubLaw]

How do you join at 5 or 6 yrs old?! What parent is allowing that? Are they only offspring of current followers? What am I missing?

[@denniswrande6004]

Wow being been born in a cult must be a hell of a experience but they might learn too be adapting too society but its indotricate just young kids is just crazy.

[@deborahdicembre9579]

Dang. What a horror story. The bass note of all Religion is cruelty. The opposite of spirituality the opposite of the Creator. The opposite of freedom.

[@truckerdude977]

Wowww

[@SavageKingz1900]

Joe "The younger dryas impact theory" rogan

[@fletchermunson6225]

A good book about freaky stuff in early Pasadena, in the 40s. check out Strange Angel by George Pendle. Sex, drugs, rockets, JPL, L Ron Hubbard, Alistair Crowley. A great read.

[@johnnyripple8972]

Lucifarians remain in many powerful positions.

[@zack3799]

@@johnnyripple8972podcast hosts and comedy club owners

[@kickasskris]

You lost me at “Elrond” Hubbard 🙄

[@nbe4671]

*Soon as she said Boy Scout…done✅😵

[@twistpv]

Old stuff never happened right ? He’s the only one and should have wrote a book.

[@eclipsses]

Who else grew up as a JW?

[@changingworld7467]

Reminds me of the dnc...

[@Kevs442]

I always think of Leah Remini leaving Scientology. Psychopath leaders that prey on peoples weaknesses. Lookin at you to, Joel Osteen.

[@user-px8lx9dp6h]

😢

[@MatthewBall-wd9cv]

May Joe be with you

[@sgt.lincolnosiris4111]

All the hours spent "working", addies, baddies and alcohol really aging togan.

[@unodos149]

Joe: "Male only org, how strange" Um... Catholic Priests anybody? Scouts... choir boys... level of success seems to be the main difference between "religion" and "cult" lol

[@davidjanbaz7728]

Actually there R many: it's counterfeiting the original religion into abuses!!!

[@user-oj9ed2it9i]

GREAT POINT!!

[@RedManSEOConsulting]

Never heard of nuns, sisters and mothers? Mother Theresa ring a bell? Girls choir ring a bell? Unbelievable how ignorant you people are.

[@Killa_Suerte]

Catholicism, imo, is cult like, but there are differences between religions and cults. That being, the goal/purposes of that collection of people. Cults are groups of people that are joined to strive towards a common goal. The knowledge of the devotion is also usually hidden, or only shared between the inner circles of the group. Religions are groups who beliefs are not hidden, and are also known to worship a supernatural entity/entities.

[@RedManSEOConsulting]

​@@Killa_Suerte Catholicism is the first Christian Church. What comprises a cult has specific definitions, none of which apply to the Church

[@DJButterSmooth]

The best cults are also successful businesses

[@leviathannephilim7769]

Yeah the pic is kinda sus lol 😅

[@KenKennedy-pz5xo]

The cult was almond? Apparently they have problems with all the nuts? No peanuts, cashews or macadamia nuts?

[@mymumdroppedmeinthewomb367]

WHERE TF IS MAX JOE!? WHERE IS JEROME!?!

[@ruckinehround6965]

Wow…….haha. Awesome.

[@tragedy-and-comedy]

N Corea LOL We are policing one another in the west!

[@rakeshroshan4119]

why she kinda...?

[@BBDumfuk]

Yes

[@annacroixx]

Kinda what?

[@rakeshroshan4119]

@@annacroixx attractive, bang-able, whatever.

[@jeffreysmith5230]

Interview the grandfather.

[@crazycasy]

Sounds like the nicest cult ever..everyone needs something to believe in..

[@kasperspardigm]

Just a bunch of Cult-ures but if you get too deep, itll leave ya surrounded by Vultures.... 😂

[@rolandconnor575]

Ok, so but is there life after death?

[@mauriceharris9087]

😊

[@W.O.P.R]

Super interesting, yet feeling disgusted

[@-.6666.-]

This kind of stuff angers me…

[@jamesdelcol3701]

Was Jesus involved in this cult? Calvinism that lasted into that time was a splintered group from the 1800's. Calvinists were pretty crazy folks. The root of that cult she belonged to has its roots in Calvinism from the 1800's. If they talked a lot of Old Testament stuff, that is sure sign that it was an old form of Calvinism. Her Great Great Grandparents could have been in and were Calvinist, but after the war these groups became splintered and on their own migrating west. Some went north. She mentioned they spoke a quote about St. Paul the Apostle. So this was Christianity, but not Protestant or Catholic. It was Calvinism, which has its roots in the 1560's Europe during the reformation years. It was already splintering then. So by the time it got here it was watered down a bit. These are interesting histories. I could make a movie about her roots. It would be fun too.

[@Jus4kiks]

I am not a Calvinist, but they have nothing to do with what she is describing..

[@clayton9136]

But has she tried DMT?

[@uenmm4745]

Elvis died in 1977 so thats practically the same thing as the end of the world!

[@user-dc1dr9kr8x]

ATTENTION JOE week after Graham needs to be comedians so we can decompress

[@dominicconnor3437]

I don't think she actually enjoys the cigar? Joe does and it's easy to see from the clouds of smoke blowing in her face!

[@RustyCordova]

They were never celibate 😂😂😂

[@littlevman2997]

Example of dropping the cross to follow satan and live a life of sin. He promised her all the things of the world and gave her excuses to walk away from God. .ay truth and discernment fill her soul in the name of Jesus. God bless

[@StaceyJayne-pe7ww]

Oh Jesus! Smh

[@Melinda09985]

😮

[@thabangdiswane6503]

No women! Thats crazy.

[@squirtchimsley8682]

She’s smiling so much its uncomfortable.

[@randomelvis3359]

We’re ALL born into cults …FAMILY!!

[@TheLumberJacked]

This is a dumb dumb comment.

[@devonhedinger4132]

It depends honestly

[@matshanssen2070]

Definition of 'cult'..?