Want to Save Animals? Eat Beef Not Chicken | Response

[@MsWannabeGamer]

We shouldn't abandon endorsement for veganism in favor of baby steps. We're running out of time. The amount of humans on this planet is only growing, our negative impact on the planet is only increasing. There's no more time for baby steps.

[@kaybyrne9808]

I agree we need to act quickly, but the meat and dairy industry are doing a good job of making veganism seem dangerous for your health and the planet. I encourage my friends to do baby steps so that they'll at least give it a shot...

[@seculair2446]

Right now. We live with 7,5 billion people on this earth.

[@KTKuhBOOM]

I agree!! Maybe we need to focus less on the ethical argument and focus heavily on the environmental argument. Being compassionate toward animals doesn't seem to be enough for most people unfortunately. :( But if everyone only knew that they are endangering their own futures and the lives of their children...This planet is a ticking time bomb and without a LARGE population shift toward veganism I don't think any of the tiny recycling and clean energy changes we are being encouraged to make will do anything to turn our fate.

[@griffrider2114]

in that case we're all fucked.

[@consciousconscience7496]

KTKaBOOM there's no environmental reason to be vegan, perhaps plant based dietarily. the only reason to be vegan is ethics. logical consistency and intellectual honesty are what veganism is predicated upon.

[@martharowen6801]

I am sick and tired of hearing about "mean vegans". I have been vegan for well over 20 years and am in my mid-70s and I have not yet met a single mean vegan, neither while I was a meat eater nor since I became vegan. On the other hand, I've had people respond very defensively when they found out I was a vegan (not something I advertise most of the time). The mean vegan is completely made-up meme (at least in part a product of meat eater guilt) and it needs to die. It's way past time we stopped apologizing even for "some mean vegans" because I think they are rarer than hen's teeth.

[@vantqe]

Ok but there's a comment on this video with 300+ likes - I think the 2nd top comment - and it's literally just calling meat eaters retarded. Mean vegans exist and they are not too hard to find. Of course, there are a lot of sensible, calm ones, but believe me - "mean" ones are there too

[@chriswatson3464]

​@@vantqewhere?

[@BBcorbie]

How are you still vegan when you just slaughtered these very flawed arguments?

[@georgehornsby2075]

It's vegan so long as the arguments weren't made by a sentient being.

[@LexiePersonForever]

i'm a vegetarian that went back to eating meat bc of social situations in high school that's now going vegan. just because someone "fails" once doesn't mean that's the end of it.

[@luxconcept]

exactly, same thing happened with me and now I've been vegan for 2 years. If it wasn't for "mean vegans" aka TRUTH SPEAKERS continuing to spread the vegan message, I probably would have continued making justification for my bad behaviour. Especially if I would have seen this idiot promoting cutting out only one species as a means to "save animals" from suffering.

[@qusic-wildlifemusic3506]

JellyfishGroupStan I'm sorry to hear this. I respectfully and peacefully hope you again decide to support the life against inhumane and unnecessary slaughter.

[@MictheVegan]

Some of you may have noticed that I took down the original version quite quickly. Despite the video file being 10:15 long, KZbin uploaded it as 9:15 so the last minute was missing. This has never happened before so if anyone knows why this happened, please share. Anyway, I hope you guys like it! NOW I CAN SLEEP. Technical note: I restarted my computer and re-exported it 2 seconds shorter to differentiate it. It worked. Corrupt file?

[@SgtTeddybear66]

Mic, I'd like to bring up a very important topic; The guy making all these claims is possibly "Controlled Opposition". Basically, the best way to win a 'war' is to lead it yourself. I have little doubt this Vox guy was paid to say this to help promote the Beef/meat industry in a sneaky way. This isn't uncommon, and is very deceptive. Hopefully people will see through this.

[@bonemarrow21]

SgtTeddybear59 you are everything wrong with veganism! The people (like yourself) who call anybody that disagrees with them a dairy or meat industry shill is ridiculous. And worst of all, THIS GUY IS VEGAN!! It was disgusting to constantly do that to meat eaters, now vegans who dont agree or toe the company line are being accused of this tinfoil hat nutjob conspiracy theory. Get a life dude. You're hurting veganism! Absolutely RIDICULOUS! This disrespect of other people's opinions have to stop, this is why vegans get a bad rap!

[@bonemarrow21]

+ziliruka Huh?!? I was responding to the person I mentioned in my post, not the video.

[@ziliruka]

bonemarrow21, sorry, my bad.. I deleted the comment

[@bonemarrow21]

No worries! Thanks for the clarification!

[@drakesheets6612]

Mic., flawlessly reasoned and absolutely logical points, and a perfect video.

[@kristinavee1012]

What makes me kind of sad is how people say "angry vegans don't work". I disagree. If it wasn't for an angry vegan putting videos out on KZbin I never would have thought twice about what I was doing. I remember feeling so annoyed that these people felt like they had any right to critique me until I really opened my eyes. Then I remember saying "so that's why they're angry". I'm not saying you should be an angry vegan, but they definitely do help some people and they help quite a bit.

[@chriswatson3464]

Put videos on KZbin for sure. But don't stop people while they're eating or going about their lives. However it's almost always meat eaters who are the ones that push their beliefs on others.

[@kahra6756]

THANK. GOD. i was waiting for this video. the dumbassery in that video was so intense. thank u for cleansing my brain.

[@donnerparty1815]

what brain? you're vegan remember

[@Komod0_arg.8.0]

Donner Party lel, sarcasm

[@skybluemini]

I feel like he (and a lot of other people) just see "activism" and "angry" as synonyms and then it allows for these kind of interpretations and "solutions" to surface

[@AnaLeonor-ub6en]

Cook good, tasty food and when you can, offer your friend/family a bite, show them that vegan food can be amazing. It can build their curiosity and then they'll ask questions and you might get them interested (a good shout for those who for some reason would never watch a documentary about veganism) Even a small change, that gets people talking about thinking is better than none

[@littlemissink]

I watched the original video a few days ago and was screaming expletives at my phone the whole time! so glad you covered this video, Mic!

[@shaykespeeer7040]

Why the Hell would he start promoting eating beef..... just as the Vegan movement is gaining serious traction in many places around the world? Yes, there were a lot of decades of very little success in converting Omnivores to Veganism, but the last decade has been seeing an explosion in the rise of new Vegans and a dramatic increase in the variety and quality of Vegan food items coming on the market. Terrible timing and bad logic. Send him back to the 70s.

[@indigodragon0613]

It actually makes me really sad and angry that humans, including myself for the first 15 years of my life, just can't grasp logic and ethics above personal pleasure.

[@velliot]

I don't know Mike... The reduction of suffering is absolutely immense when you stop eating all animal except cows. Some still insist on eating some sort of meat even when they're aware it's not necessary. Plus it gets people thinking about animal suffering whereas a fully plant-based diet may be started in self-interest.

[@jeenjeanjeen]

People who are inclined to go vegan for ethical (animal exploitation/cruelty) reasons are the easiest people to convert. They just need to be exposed to the information that's already out there (i.e. factory farm/slaughter/animal abuse footage, Gary yourofsky's speech, etc). But for most people, even those who profess that they're animal lovers, ethical reasons will not be convincing or motivating enough to stop eating animal products. U need to appeal to their selfish motivations, which is the health/weight loss/vanity reasons. But that is still a tall order because most people are so addicted to animal products or have bought into the propaganda that carbs are evil and the only "safe" food (or macronutrient) is protein. There is no amount of activism that will reach these people. The only hope for those is that they'll eventually hit the lowest tolerable low in their health and they're willing to try something that they've never tried before, even if it conflicts with their "carbs are evil" ideology. But then again, most of those people will choose death by chronic disease before that low point comes.

[@robertcollins9362]

nothing about taste? I don't eat much meat at all these days but I still really like the taste. how do you appeal to these people

[@MusicJunkie37]

Robert Collins ask if they value taste over Life

[@CorinnaAtHome]

jeenjeanjeen you are so right. in a world full of negatives, food is an easy feel good for too many people. having to put any kind of thought or work into food choices isn't fun if environmental and animal welfare are important to a person.

[@robertcollins9362]

Deerv / M-Jeyy so there's not a substitute then. good to know.

[@jeenjeanjeen]

Robert Collins You tell me. How do u appeal to these people? U like the taste of meat and won't give it up (cuz you're addicted). How do u get an addict to stop their addiction?

[@indigodragon0613]

Omg thank you. Now make sure Vox sees this. I like a lot of the content on the Vox channel but I couldn't even bring myself to watch this one. I knew there would be a response video soon enough.

[@VegAnimation]

This is just so dumb... Maybe that "animal rights activist" should rather call himself a "_chicken_ rights activist" Also what's the best strategy to save animal lives? Be vegan and make a social media account to spread the word in any form you can! -(I am self advertising right here, if you didn't notice :P)-

[@VegAnimation]

Thanks so much, buddy x)!

[@phoebe5252]

Lol I love your videos, they make my vegan boyfriend laugh out loud :)

[@VegAnimation]

Aye, that makes me happy to hear, thank you both :]!

[@Kamilicaaa]

I love how they also have motivational music playing in the background. What the fuck

[@eelkeaptroot1393]

This plan is every cattle rancher's wet dream....

[@addangel]

I applaud you for responding so logically and eloquently to such utter nonsense. I think I would have just flailed my arms and yelled "ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED???" And then they'd say vegans are "mean" and "angry". * sigh *

[@MictheVegan]

Lol well that's stage 1 for me too.

[@jacyanthis]

To clarify, Matt Ball never suggested we ask people to "eat beef." He just said that some advocates should focus on reducing chicken meat consumption. Vox wrote the headline, not Matt.

[@plantgoals4271]

I did a response to this video too... I looked onto this guy Matt Ball, and I found out that the started "Vegan Outreach" in the early 90's with Jack Norris... That is right, that guy Jack Norris who gained some fame a year or so ago when he said this, "People say, I'd go vegan but I can't give up cheese. Then go vegan except for cheese" - Jack Norris of Vegan Outreach. Also, I have come to believe that the best angle to take is the one that affects ones ego, play on the ego and show people how THEY will benefit personally/themselves when they give up animal products. Let's be real, people care more about themselves more than most other things in this world, including animals. The key is to show people how they have been mislead and how they will live longer, feel better, and have clearer mental processes, then people will change. It will take time but it is the most effective route. Best Wishes to all!

[@DivergentDroid]

I have to agree with Jack Norris in a way - Those people will still be helping the animals by not eating them and no cow has to die for cheese. It will be an improvement in their health too so only positive things can come from it.

[@MathildeSyrup]

+ beef is the worst for the environment.. wtf.

[@nettierose4915]

Matt never said to replace chicken with beef. Vox made that title. His point is to stop eating chicken. If people don't eat chicken, they will drastically reduce the number of animals they consume. Currently ( and the trend keeps increasing) large numbers of people are not eating red meat and eating birds (and fish )instead. This has caused a huge increase in both the number of animals eaten and especially in suffering, as chickens are the most abused and forgotten beings on the planet. Like Matt I have been vegan for a long time time and an activist for a long time. I stopped eating meat 41 years ago. I cannot tell you how many ex veg*ans I have encountered over the years and how many people who for health, environmental or even out of compassion for mammals over birds, think eating chicken is the better choice. Chicken consumption keeps increasing. The suffering of chickens is heart breaking. It is exactly because of advice like replace beef with chicken which is heard a lot, that we need a don't eat chicken message. Chickens make up more than 95% of land animals slaughtered. At the least, activists should tell people to eat less of the animal products they are eating and not to replace one kind of meat with another. We need to make sure that we don't inadvertently encourage people to switch from eating larger animals to smaller animals. Even when we encourage people to go vegan, most think that going vegan is too difficult. So they replace beef (and pork) with chicken and think it's the next best thing. So they end up eating 200 times more animals! This is a step in the wrong direction not the right direction. This comment will probably be misunderstood like Matt Ball's message has been.

[@nettierose4915]

Gary Dorgan Thanks. I think it is about looking at what is actually happening out there in the real world, not about what we want and hope will happen.

[@Komod0_arg.8.0]

Gary Dorgan i kinda lost your logic at a point plz explain. (Not being sarcastic btw)

[@chriswatson3464]

Also chicken is not a good source of iron, zinc and vitb12. So they end up eating far more chicken just to keep up.

[@austinh6405]

Love ya Mic, wish ya the best!

[@jjjones4982]

I quit beef when mad cow appeared on the scene, it took years after that to go completely vegan.

[@storytyme12]

Yes! The moment I saw that stupid video I hoped someone would do a response :)))

[@69ER509]

I knew you'd re-upload it. Mr. Perfectionist. ;)

[@MictheVegan]

lol well I guess some people are fine with 9 out of 10 minutes of their video XD I just need to go 100% of the way.

[@69ER509]

Haha. It felt strange for your video to have a flaw. I just knew I would get another notification any time soon of the same video. Of course! We all got to go all the way. Not just switch to beef. *Drops mic*

[@VegAnimation]

Mic. the Vegan Not satisfied with 90%? *Extreme vegan confirmed!*

[@MictheVegan]

Oh snap!

[@69ER509]

VegAnimation​ Nooooo! Go away unnatural vegan advocate. Jk Jk. 😂

[@patriciajackisch744]

I know we all want to save animals (obviously) but do we not also want to save peoples lives? Eating red meat...? or any meat at all... how can he say those things? It is so unhealthy! I do not understand!!!! I spread the message by doing Vegan cook nights where I hand out leaflets and people start to listen. Both my parents have started eating more Vegan just through the info I am giving them, and my dad is a chef. Please don´t ever give up on spreading the message

[@Modvegan]

Just finished my editing my response video, haha. Really glad you did this. I thought of "Before the Flood" instantly, and I'm glad others did as well. I like Ball's basic idea (stop eating chicken), but it boggles my mind that he would jump to "eat beef instead." So frustrating. I kind of think the animal rights movement would be better off if he just retired, at this point. Keep up the great work 👍

[@FPOAK]

"...it boggles my mind that he would jump to 'eat beef instead.'" He never said what you quoted him as saying.

[@Modvegan]

No, he just showed pictures of cows and pigs and stated that it would take "200 chickens to equal the same number of meals" that could be gleaned from a cow." He kept himself morally grey enough to call himself a vegan while Vox took the logical step of entitling the video "Want to save animal lives without going veg? Eat beef instead of chicken." I don't think we need to praise Ball for committing a sin of omission.

[@FPOAK]

I just generally find it more useful to critique the strongest version of somebody's argument rather than the weakest. The idea of replacing chicken with beef seems to only come from the video's title-it's not the position taken on the One Step for Animals website. Yet the gist of most of the criticism I've seen focuses on explaining why more beef is a bad thing and so therefore Ball is wrong.

[@Modvegan]

Fair enough. But no pragmatic vegan (except abolitionists, who would object that it is speciesist to focus on one species) disagrees with the idea of asking people to eat less chicken. We aren't trying to critique the idea of veganism, we are concerned that the way he presents his argument will hurt other animals. My first jab in this comment was at the climate change consequences of increasing beef even marginally. Since Ball is making no recommendation to eat less meat (he asks people to give up chicken and leaves it up to them to decide what they want to do, even going so far as to claim that if they make up the difference with other meats, it is still better than eating chicken), he must be cognizant of the fact that his comments would increase demand for beef if taken to heart (especially following his little chicken/pork/beef animation).

[@mochihammer5459]

According to Vox: 200 chickens = 1 cow So... 200 cows = 1 elephant Therefore, *we should eat elephants* If we take it further... 100 elephants = 1 blue whale Therefore, *we should eat blue whales* Good job, Vox.

[@12345shipreck]

The guy said that eating less chicken and more beef kills less animals overall. Which is true, chickens are smol, and cows are big. Less cows replace the same volume of chickens.

[@pderitis]

I have no words. I would characterize Matt Ball at something other than "beaten down," but I'm trying to be as civil as I can right now.

[@karenlindsay6460]

I keep it simple because mi english is not to good but YOU ARE THE BEST, thanks for your GREAT WORK always supported by well constructed arguments and science to back up. Regards from Mexico.

[@avidian888]

Wow didn't know the meat industry was that desperate. x'D

[@hudsontd7778]

Ya I agree, I am just going to eat both, Thanks Guys!

[@honeydew_6299]

thank you for making this video, I've watched the other vid yesterday and it bugged me sooo much.

[@willb1405]

*Want to save animals? Don't eat any of them.

[@Oracle_Speaks]

Another good job making common sense! It was great meeting you at Vegfest LA... keep up the good work!

[@postraumaticbadactivist1598]

Well said!! Thank you so much for this video, Mic the Vegan!!

[@TheMonsterReapz]

keep up the good work!

[@Rickiwarhammer92]

"yeeah new video" ... "gone" .... "nnoooooooooooo", refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, "yeaaaaah"

[@MictheVegan]

I'm sorry. That is the exact experience I envisioned happening. A "Poof" per se. Still don't know the cause of KZbin shortened my video. I am just glad I was able to fix it.

[@Petra44YT]

So by that logic, eating whale meat should even be better than eating beef. In Japan, you can get some ...

[@flamingomingo9810]

This might be an extreme analogy, but it's like saying to just use stronger and more skilled black people to use as slaves.

[@martharowen6801]

I was thinking of an analogy like this too. What if abolitionists and feminists in the 19th century had decided that since they didn't seem to be making progress had decided, "Well, maybe if we just limit the number of slaves a person can own" or "Since we're not getting the vote right away, maybe we should pass laws to take votes away from former slaves so at least we can feel like we're not alone"? Smh!

[@wen6519]

That was a pretty good discussion! Thanks for sharing!

[@AF-ke9by]

I'm not sure what the best method is, but I look for ways to get positive messages about the effects of eating a plant-based or vegan diet in front of the people I care about. In particular, when they are suffering from a condition, which can be helped, I will find an appropriate article or video (or two, or five) and forward the information to them. I've actually used a number of your videos to that purpose, Mic.. Thank you, and keep up the good work!

[@JL-tw4uj]

Please never stop fighting the good fight Mike, thank you!!!

[@anyawinkelmanv7818]

Hey mic and other vegans! I've been vegan for two-ish months and I love it! However, the people I work with have caught on and anytime food is brought up they needle me with malicious questions/are just really rude about it. I'm a really soft/sensitive person and it's getting to me haha. Any advice??

[@jeanbettanny9876]

It's the price for being different. Hold your head high, Anya. The world will eventually catch up with you and then you will feel proud that you had the courage to stand out despite the discomfort.

[@jsdog6705]

Post your next lipid panel.....

[@Petra44YT]

Why "haha"? Stop the "haha". Stop being nice. And stop being nice to those people. Tell them that your diet is none of their business, and that you'll file a complaint for BULLYING if they don't lay off!

[@avianmind2293]

How come I’m a vegan an have met like 1 vegan ever but somehow everyone else knows like 10?

[@adrianpop4809]

People should start comparing meat production to the Holodomor.

[@WellYourWorld]

Good work Mic! Vegans need to show people how easy it is to be vegan. We need to show others how healthy it is and why it is right. Don't just "push it", explain it! Good job!!!!

[@NikoRittenau]

Again great video!

[@moonpunam4298]

Congrats on 102k. You are growing. 👍👍😊

[@QarthCEO]

No, the average person could not afford to replace all their chicken consumption with an equal amount of beef. The price disparity is far too large. If a person stops eating chickens, they are far more likely to consume much less meat overall. So "stop eating chickens" does not necessarily mean "eat more beef".

[@mshailbop]

Hey Mic, i've been binge watching your videos because I think having a scientific understanding on veganism helps in debating with people who are AGAINST all forms of not eating animals. A question I've received a lot from my family is what will happen to all the cows and the chickens once everyone becomes vegan? Most meat-eaters in my family say that cows will go extinct. I haven't been able to find any reliable sources on it yet. Is that possible to answer?

[@luxconcept]

The world will not go vegan overnight, meaning, slowly as people stop eating animal products, the industries will stop mass-breeding of these animals. It's all about supply and demand. It's not as if cows and chickens will go extinct over night. And besides, like I said, these animals are being mass-bred, trillions of animals are slaughtered every year to keep up with the demand for meat. Another argument is, if these animals population numbers ever get low, they would probably be placed on the endangered species list and we would have conservation efforts for them. Another argument is, these animals would rather not be born than suffer a horrific life and untimely, painful death. Most of the animals bred for food are killed between 6 mos - 1 year old, that's a baby in every respect.

[@mshailbop]

Thanks so much for the reply. I feel like these are common sense answers but it is hard to convey that there are solutions to these issues that meat eaters feel would be unsolvable problems in the "very near future" (Like you said, not everyone is going vegan overnight) but these are the questions I get asked.

[@MictheVegan]

There is no reliable source for an alternate future. I do know that if the world was run by animal lovers (real ones, not ones that eat them too), then animals wouldn't have anything to worry about in terms of going extinct. Perhaps the only ones that would are animals that are bred so extremely that they suffer by default. But honestly vegans love sanctuaries and I am sure there would be hundreds of them. We don't eat dogs in the US and they aren't extinct here.

[@qusic-wildlifemusic3506]

I just subscribed after this video. Thank you for your voice!

[@cbest9692]

I'm currently transitioning. I haven't found any info on why organic (Springer farms). Boneless and skinless chicken breast is nutritionally harmful. Also is avocado or walnut oil harmful as compared to the whole foods. Are the endothelial cells effected.

[@MerkDolf]

I believe Mic's approach is great, teach people, show actual facts and not anecdotal references. Health aspect may work for some, but think about all the millions of people who smoke even though they know it's bad for you. Just think if restaurants still served the human killing dead cow but made you sit outside to eat it people would still do it, because they like it knowing it is killing them yes others would give it up. When you are trying to reeducate a society it takes approximately two generations.

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

I'm a plant-based vegetarian. When I'm in a group of people having a meal together, I've actually successfully prevented people from eating meat. They ate cheese pizza with vegetables on it, but at least its not meat.

[@sgtsnakeeyes11]

the ethics of it actually do make sense though no one is disputing that i hope...

[@AdamUnwiseowlKoenig]

We all gotta channel our inner James aspey if we want a vegan future..

[@saiferayo1]

hated that vox video. very glad you made this response. your array of rational counterpoints is excellent as always.

[@isabellezablocki7447]

The best strategy for saving animal lives is every day activism. It does require not just social media but psychological touch. What is the best way to get the message across to that person or that group? We have to be intelligent and collected activists.

[@erikl3508]

The number one thing we need to do when talking to people about veganism is teach them how to replace their calories. Most people think we just eat kale and salads. I always point them towards all the vegan meats, ice creams, plant milks, etc. Then I really focus on talking about starches because when they are out at a restaurant socially, that is when they could slip up. It's easy to get rice and beans, pasta, noodles and tofu, potatoes, etc at almost any type of ethnicity restaurant.

[@aquamarinedream8304]

I am interested in making videos to support veganism, but I feel like all relevant health info is available because of great channels like yours and bitesizevegan''s I want to help the cause in this way but I don't see a clear path to what could be relevant and help people that isnt already done

[@Kwizii]

Namaka Lis I think different takes on the same information is still beneficial. All the info is available, but if you do you, you will probably have your own audience. Vegan gains gives out the same info as well yet touched a whole different crows :)

[@architdharod9355]

someone great once said, - its not about doing different things, its about doing things differently. you can have the same content, but do it in your style. Present it in your way. take a different approach to it. All the maths teachers try and teach maths, but some are good at it because they they it their way. good luck mate

[@bagiee1]

It doesnt matter.... there is room for everyone who have something to say. If you have anything to say about the topic, Go for it! The more the better.

[@HarbingerBK]

I make videos so people I know in real life can hear me talk about this without having an actual face-to-face discussion (where they may feel defensive). They watch because it's me giving the information, a presenter they know, and because they're curious. It also gives a chance for the information to digest and then they can ask me questions in real life after the info has had time to simmer. Also making videos is a good outlet for me... it prevents me blowing a fuse in real life haha

[@tonyjays]

Namaka Lis Try arguing veganism from various religions or show their compatibility

[@piotrnowak8725]

I think our message should be very clear: going vegan is the solution. Going vegan is too difficult for you? Think again. Still think going vegan is too difficult? Fine, then reduce your meat and dairy consumption while we will do anything in our power to make going vegan easier. Not everyone will go vegan now. but as it gets easier and more attractive more people will try and eventually some day the world will be vegan. It just might not happen in our lifetimes. The most important thing is to make progress.

[@andrewhay2241]

Never let an idea that looks good on paper or doing research get in your way.

[@lesliesmith7312]

I live in Michigan and there was a Veg bash here at a farmers' market with vegan food trucks and stands from restaurants. They were scheduled to go from 6pm to 10 but they were ALL totally sold out of food in a half hour because so many more people came then they were expecting. It all went so well that they scheduled two more for later in the year. So yeah, vegans may have an image problem, but we're growing everyday. I think what we really need is the right information out there to help people who go vegan stay vegan. There are so many youtubers and younger people who go vegan for a few months or a couple years, then tell everyone they don't feel good or they were hungry all the time.

[@SoniaBTextiles]

I think this guy just sold himself out. The channel wanted to find a vegan who would say these things bc their channel is set up to be informative but not give any real solutions, incase it offends its viewers. I just don't understand vox. It needs to tell its viewers that you can't be an environmentalist and still eat meat. Maybe the production team needs to figure that out also.

[@Komod0_arg.8.0]

Sonia B Textiles he has other videos answering and giving solutions but i do agree but this video was technically a debate not an idea or education video per say

[@MissChibiGodd]

Im not allowed to cut all meat out of my diet yet, is there a lesser of two evils in meat? like chicken is healther then cow and pig, or is another meat healthy compared to other meat? Guess that be a good place to start on my way to vegan. Thanks for help.

[@abwilson2011]

In conversation I have found that people generally turn off to the actual word "vegan", so I initially promote a "Plant-based, whole-food diet" for a healthy lifestyle and that the biggest reward is that no animals are harmed and the environment will be able to be healed. I do throw in that it is a vegan lifestyle, but after I am able to speak about the benefits of the Plant-based diet. I am not a millennial, but I also share on Social Media, you didn't address that age group and how they promote veganism (gap is 34-65 which is part of the boomer generation). Think Diet for a Small Planet, Fast Food Nation and other books written on promoting a plant based diet. Thx for doing these videos!

[@kaybyrne9808]

I have a lot of friends who are afraid of failing to be a perfect vegan. I tell them to try to be vegan one day per week to make it seem less scary. A few of my friends have moved up to being full vegan! The trick is to make it seem less radical and to tell them the little steps you took to aid in your own transition.

[@postraumaticbadactivist1598]

Katie Byrne, It is clear that you are trying to help, but being clear about the situation with your friends is also very important. It would mean a lot if you could more deeply consider what is shared in this post.; facebook.com/notes/keith-berger/message-to-my-fellow-vegans-baby-steps-are-for-babies-were-all-adults-here/1027853170578115/ Please understand I mean this in the nicest possible way***, but I kind of feel you are selling your friends short. I also say this considering that when I was vegetarian alone, I really wish I had a vegan make this more clear to me. Veganism is not* extreme or scary, and I hope so much that you don't describe it this way to those who are not. There is no such thing as a perfect vegan. Either a person is vegan or they are not. (Sorry to state the obvious, and definitely not meaning to personally insult you!) Anyone who has access to plant based food can go fully vegan, at really anytime they choose. Words alone can have a more powerful impact than you may think. I point this out to you to try to encourage you to be more mindful of the words you use. I am sure you already know this, but baby steps still involve technically unnecessarily paying someone to abuse animals. I am sure you wouldn't want to give the impression that this is "asking too much"... I am leaving this comment because I feel you may be giving this impression, and by doing this, you are not having the positive effect you truly hope to have. I am not attempting to personally disrespect you in any way, please know this.* If you might like a resource to share with your friends, feel free to check out here as well.; earth-species-love-awakening.tumblr.com/

[@postraumaticbadactivist1598]

Also, for the record, my channel name is meant to be a joke only!

[@kaybyrne9808]

weaklydeficientandiabolicalcultistveganbully- I couldn't agree more with all you have to say. I will definitely change my approach to reflect my beliefs more now. Thanks!

[@postraumaticbadactivist1598]

I am so happy you can understand! No, I thank you* so much & all the best of luck to you!! 💛

[@paveldkohout]

Hey Mic, make a video with your weekly food plan and vitamins you take!!

[@rachelAO]

His generation perhaps. Using social media to undo work on social media that is making benefits is crazy. He hasn't thought this through on any front. Thankfully you have Mike!

[@entopique_tv]

I can't believe that we really need to talk about this .. this is just stupid ! Like the way you approched the subject ! Good job !

[@TorBarstad]

From the perspective of what's best for the individual animals it might not be such a bad thing if the size of rainforests are reduced, all things considered. Comparing life qualities is complex, but I don't know what I would choose if I had the choice between being born as a random factory farm animal and a random rainforest animal.

[@Rauzwaiz]

Ya good stuff again dude, and grats on that 100k btw!🌱💚

[@agatabilkova6609]

thank you

[@bringdabeat]

Mic! You know so much about health. I was wondering... do you drink? Could you make a video about alcohol consumption?

[@dropj3]

Thanks mic! needed this after that rediculis video.

[@musicismylovee14]

Can you make a video talking about the pros/cons of choosing to only eat "white meat" as a non-vegan or non-vegetarian alternative? Many people that feel it is impossible to go vegan or vegetarian choose to cut out "red meat" instead, as the health risks appear to be more well known for beef, hot dogs, pork, and sausage compared to chicken and turkey. Basically, your videos are freakin' awesome and I would love to hear your opinion on poultry!

[@blablablublu509]

thanks for this mic. the vegan!!

[@nathanmullins836]

Using this logic shouldn't we eat blue whale?

[@MMGabrielle]

Mic, you da best. Thanks for doing what you do

[@user-yp3yj4ig7g]

Mic, could you please make a video talking about humans ability to run long distances? My friend showed me a video today that was about how humans are hypothesized to run long distances to exhausted their prey.

[@isabellezablocki1102]

Best strategies for saving animal lives is to always to listen to people and find the angle by which they can be more receptive: health, animal suffering or environment. My personal trainer at the gym made jokes to me about eating animals. "if God did not want us to eat animals, he would not have made them out of meat". He knew also to a certain extent about animal cruelty. But that did nothing to him. Yet when he came to the gym one day with an inflated knee because of arthritis and I told him he could experiment for 3 days how he would feel on a raw vegan diet because a lot of raw foods combat inflammation and I gave him a list (with some cooked food also) he agreed to it and then became very excited at the idea of doing it with his wife. That's a start I think.

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

I'm surprised this guy doesn't say "save the animals by making them extinct". Once they're extinct, there will be no more death.

[@plant-baseddanny1538]

Spot on. Love this and love you channel.

[@KitKat-7417]

My fiancé and i have recently stopped being a part of the harming of animals. So in my opinion, vegans are not failing. Its just a slow battle. But what The Health, and learning all the real cruelty invalved in consuming animal products, plus the negative effects it has on the planet, was all more than needed to give us motivation to go from vegetarianism to veganism. The only real reason we weren't vegan was because we believed that we needed animal products in our diets but we both feel so happy now with our new diets.

[@maggiecheung1429]

I really like your videos. I even like that you're a little angry at times because it matches how I feel on the inside when my soul says no to eating dead meats and my monkey mind says eat it. New vegan here. (Transitioning) SO grateful to learn more from your channel, Thank you.

[@MsCellobass]

Mike, i need ur help. i have a friend who is a well known author that has stomach cancer. I have yelled at him( using caps) to quit putting himself in the hands of the US medical system to give him radiation, chemo and he is thinking of allowing them to do survery. He himself is a trained medical doctor ( he isnt practicing) and ive begged him to use his research powers to get alternative means to rid his cancer. He has not said a word and continues to get chemo. what would u suggest?

[@enfisya]

I think the best strategy would be on a governmental level, of course. Advertise studies showing land meat is cancerogenic --> increase production of veg meat -- > ban production of all land meat, and leave instead "lab meat". Then the same strategy for milk, eggs and sea animals.

[@gavinparks5386]

It's a pity Mic , you can't take a wider view of farming. Most of Europe has more than enough water falling out of the sky to grow grass. Average wheat yields are 4 tonnes of grain per acre ( very high by world standards ) , but grassland - which doesn't need ploughing or sowing each year - it can grow well for 20 years or more - gives huge yields of forage. 20 tonnes or more per annum - fixing lots of carbon in the process.

[@1998tkhri]

Also, falafel, hummus, and chopped salad are staples in Israel, that is also really helpful, besides just the comparison.

[@simonb2268]

Hi Mic. I'm 15 and been vegetarian for 2 years and I'm going to go vegan. I didn't do it sooner because all my life people have told me that veganism isn't adequate but I've watched a lot of your videos and I now know it is but my mum is still sceptical but I was able to persuade her to let me go vegan. However you often mention veganism is a adequate for all life stages if it's planned well. However you haven't really got a video about it. I was wondering if you could make a video on what a adequate vegan diet is. Thanks.

[@vanilladingdong2542]

you are awesome!

[@upittman1]

Mic, what are those things hanging behind you? I'm looking at the clean blue wall behind you and I can tell you, it matches your eyes and would lend so much more authority to your vids minus those hangy things. Everyone else, relax. Not throwing shade just making a suggestion. love your content.

[@kieferwest1964]

I think the MOST important thing that can be taken from both videos is that Vegans should try to be better stewards in helping people that eat meat to becoming vegans. If that means in the short term making a dietary change from Chicken to Beef in order to become Vegan than so be it. This will save more animals lives in the long run and be better for the environment, everyone wins. The end goal is the most important thing when becoming Vegan, the different routes that people take to that end goal should be celebrated not shamed.

[@tfernn]

You know how they have PSAs abut not smoking, exercising, not missing school, not drinking and driving etc. I wish they had PSAs that encouraged people to go vegan. Too bad animal agriculture makes a lot of $$$

[@thegazetteyt]

Vox made that video? WTF?! They are generally okay with their content. *sigh* This is a 6 year old's argument. Actually, even I wouldn't insult a child like this.