Mid Lane Fundamentals - JUNGLE TRACKING - Everything You Need To Know About Jungle - Episode 5

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[@CoachCurtis]

Thanks for watching guys ! Make sure to pick 1 or 2 things from this video to execute on in your games, given this is a very detailed video. If you want to learn more about jungle, head over to my friends channel at : kzbin.info/door/iB-uBzQWijzmRO2VAY7yJA

[@wizzrobe8503]

I can't believe that your just giving this information out for free. This mid lane fundamentals series has made an insane breakthrough for me, and I really appreciate it!

[@truffleworm1490]

your videos are the only guides that are actually high elo tips, the only thing that compares are the skillcapped lane analysis. I got to grandmaster this season and now the push to challenger is SO much easier knowing that so many macro mechanics actually exist

[@farzamsh9668]

you are by far the best coach I've ever seen thanks for your beautiful contents wish you the best

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[@CoachCurtis]

LOL this is what I like to hear hahah

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Literally me 🙃

[@caozicoaching]

@@femiyusuf3631 Same

[@korsakov319]

True

[@xuanwang347]

Also me: failed my actual class but got ranked up in league

[@ss4adam]

40:15 "And for some reason my Leona just ints, which is pretty standard game-play in solo q"... subscriber for life.

[@cautionmaycontaingaming2834]

Still can’t believe the quality of your videos for how little your channel is, I wouldn’t be suprised if within a month your channel has grown 10x

[@CoachCurtis]

Thanks so much man, I put a lot of effort into these vids and I appreciate you noticing.

[@moisekilonda603]

true

[@Jack-jn8dq]

coach, this has genuinely been the greatest help i have ever received as a mid laner. I have been stuck in d4 for a few weeks now and i wasnt sure what to do about it. As soon as i started implementing what you have taught me in this video and in the other mid lane fundamental videos, i have been extremely successful in getting my team ahead and being able to carry games. It is almost like you flipped a switch in my brain and its was never going to be flipped if you never came out to help me. I was so impressed with your ability to coach players that I decided to look you up, and it was no surprise to me that you were a coach for a professional league team. Never stop making videos, and i will never stop watching them.

[@CoachCurtis]

Thank you very much for the kind words Jack. Makes me happy to hear that you've been able to get results from my content. Appreciate the support man :)

[@defensedefense4942]

Yo, these tips are really coming in handy :D I was blueside as Zed and was versus a Zoe. I noticed the warwick was lvl 5 and did not have items yet, so I knew he was going to back soon. I ward the drag pit with ease as I pushed in my lane beforehand. And lo and behold: The warwick appeared on my ward a minute later. I pinged that he was on it. And we bullied him and his team out of the drag pit. And secured the drag. Later, I won the game because I knew where he was constantly. (50% of the time). but still, feelsgoodman.

[@CoachCurtis]

Ayyy!! LOVE THIS. thats so awesome dude, thanks for applying my concepts :)

[@Michael-ib6ky]

I'm in bronze. How do I predict the enemy jungler's pathing when he can't even predict it himself 🤔

[@CoachCurtis]

I talk about this in the video! If you are in bronze jg tracking isn't important

[@kylios285]

That comment got me

[@tutoramdom6090]

@@CoachCurtis I haven't had time to watch the whole video, in platinum does jungle tracking matter? Excuse my grammar, I'm not an english speaker :p

[@Katherine_Zheng]

@@tutoramdom6090 Yeah I think so, because ppl tend to care enough to watch guides and follow a path

[@oscarwong4201]

haha me too, but i still watch this to learn about jungling as secondary role and more importantly, its coach curtis so why not?

[@Majestic469]

God has uploaded

[@CoachCurtis]

Hahaha thanks man

[@martintsanov4341]

Somebody give this man his own podcast or in the Audiobook business. So easy to listen to!

[@CoachCurtis]

One day man that'd be sick!

[@asves4536]

He has one right now. It is called Broken by Concept

[@ardizzle1]

Hey Curtis, do have any plans to make a jungle tracking video with the current jungle changes? Is there any section of the video that is relevant for today still?

[@iammaster5556]

Things you love to hear: "This video is going to be quite in depth"

[@CoachCurtis]

Hahaha sounds like a Coach Curtis classic

[@SHIFTandCo]

For real, your videos show a more technical, theoretical LoL I never paid attention to, and after 10 years of playing, I kind of rediscover the game. I didn't have the chance to implement your methods fully yet, but the explanation itself is so great I'm blown away !

[@CoachCurtis]

My pleasure man, appreciate you tuning in :)

[@AurumMid]

Coach... I don't even have the words to thank you for all this content that you upload. Seriously, a few months ago, one of my friends told me that one of my problems as a mid laner was the tempo and jungle tracking, I looked and search on YT to learn, and at that time, I discovered your channel with this amazing, beautiful and extraordinaly content. I started to watch all of your videos and now, for the first time in a long time, my goal and my dream to become a pro player it's more alive than ever. Thank you Coach... for everything

[@CoachCurtis]

My pleasure man , Keep up the grind!

[@blind_abstract1787]

i just made a notepad full of information from this video, i`m a Talon OTP and went from just being good at my champ, to understand that i actually SUCKED at trading, warding, wave manipulation and all of the stuff that you teach. i`ve been literally studying all your videos since quarantine lol, thanks for the info

[@CoachCurtis]

Awesome to hear that I've been able to help you man, appreciate you tuning in

[@pooyash60]

I know that you say other fundamentals are more important but I realized last night after watching your video and tried to apply it that tracking enemy jungler helps me a lot to focus and not go to the autopilot and it also made me pay more attention to other fundamentals and map awareness as well. I've never enjoyed league like last night. Good job Curt

[@CoachCurtis]

Awesome man ! It actually does keep you alot more attentive, I've found that in my own games also :) Thanks for watching mate

[@AhriMcCoy]

I'm gonna watch this so many times. Having Coach Curtis as a resource is literally op

[@CoachCurtis]

[@bukvajzr]

As a mid main, this video is the most usefull hour of coaching ever.

[@IslamElshobokshy]

Hey mate, thank you SO much for all of your amazing content. Are you planning to redo this video to talk about the new jungle items?

[@kormathawa6152]

As one of those very low ELO mids stuck in ELO hell who has a solid Micro game and an atrocious Macro game, who can consistently carry, but only if the other lanes don't totally throw, even if I am not going to be able to predict an unpredictable jungler (ie. every low elo jungler) this video is amazing in getting into the Macro mindset. This stuff seems so intuitive once you say it, but I never would have thought of it. Can't wait to start working towards those ways to help my team in the small ways.

[@CoachCurtis]

Appreciate you taking the time to watch this vid man , take one step at a time and you'll get there!

[@savannahfreundt943]

Just found your channel and love it! You break down everything so that its easily digestible. A lot of creators who make tutorials also only explain when youre doing something wrong, not explaining why and what could be done better.

[@CoachCurtis]

Thanks so much man, appreciate it. I try to always learn and improve and its good to hear this sort of thing

[@clergi4969]

Since I also play Jungle it's so easy to understand this. Combined with this video I have managed to Jungle track successfully 3 games in a row (I tried tracking the Jungle and then watched the replay to check if I was right). Thanks for the help!

[@CoachCurtis]

Nice! That's what I love to hear!

[@nimbona4]

I'm a simple man I see coach Curtis upload, I press like 🔥

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[@Jack-jn8dq]

i just got scammed by pro guides becasue i didnt see that they charge all payments annually, so i got charged all of my birthday money simultaneously. It's nice to watch a coach who is better at explaining aspects of the game than any form of coaching program i have ever seen. Love you bro. Keep up the good work.

[@CoachCurtis]

No problem at all Jack, hopefully these videos can help you out on your climb!

[@derekedwards7775]

Hey just wanted to thank you, I have noticed a huge improvement in my games do to watching your channel for last few weeks. the trading and warding have made me look like a pro carrying my teams to the W. Also love how you talk about the champions identity, really opened my eyes to matchups and my own pool. Thank you so much.

[@CoachCurtis]

No problem at all Derek, my pleasure. Glad I could help you on your climb!

[@BrokeAhri]

In terms of soloq this knowledge is soo op. Your mid fundamentals never disappoint and are so great, thanks for the content!

[@twoboxtoofurious]

Great content! This is priceless. I am myself an aspirign game designer, and I find learning about games very satisfying, almost as good as playing them. I have a theory that all enjoyment actually comes from learning or exercising a skill.

[@danielsvancara4406]

Great guide once again One thing you could have perhaps mentioned, or maybe you will do it in a separate video is some tips for getting the lane into a correct state for these 2:50, 3:00 etc. wards out, cause you can't just run out of the midlane when they are shoving you in and ward their blue or in other unfavourable circumstances. Thanks for the effort ^^

[@CoachCurtis]

Hey mate great suggestion. This is why I kind of did this video after the wave management and trading video. I think that In a lot of circumstances you can just ward between the waves, yes you might miss 1/2 creeps but a lot of the time it is worth it. OR if you are in a really weak lvl 1/2 champ, you have 2 options. 1) wait for the wave to bounce and at lvl 3 try and go for a sneaky ward on the corner of the ledge (after you've undergone threat assessment or with the protection of your jg hovering) 2) ward lvl 1 on the raptors knowing you won't be able to ward for a while

[@danielsvancara4406]

@@CoachCurtis Thanks for the reply, appreciate it

[@vizzyMcExee]

Watching this in 2022, hard to believe that we have red smite or blue smite now but the concepts still apply. As a silver mid finding the enemy jg and pinging that out is super handy to keep ppl alive.

[@NukeOverlord]

Really high quality content. Thanks man! Season 9 D4 recently lane swapped from top to mid and your videos are helping me improve and push my fundamentals to make that push to master tier. Keep up the grind, king.

[@CoachCurtis]

Thanks man appreciate it ! Goodluck on your climb

[@AbdullahAli-ox6qq]

Hey Curtis, was watching the video and saw you put Qiyana as a machete jungler, but I’m pretty sure every pro takes talisman because you can clear red side and then use your lvl 3 and the invisibility combined with the aoe from your q gives you really good healing especially at raptors. Regardless, thank you for another great video

[@CoachCurtis]

Ahhh that makes sense. I believe I've seen Qiyana's do both machete and talisman starts, so I probably should have placed her in the versatile jungle list unfortunately. Sorry about that

[@AbdullahAli-ox6qq]

Coach Curtis yea I mean it’s not a huge deal just wanted to point it out in case people into her, but the video taught me so much I appreciate it

[@dwopix]

You deserve much more then 15k because of the quality of your content. Otherwise, i'm really proud, happy, and lucky to be one of your regular vierwers. The fact that you're not really known makes my climb easier. Because I have much more Knowedge than the others players in my elo. Because of you. thank you .

[@CoachCurtis]

Appreciate the kind words Oozin. You definitely will have an advantage over most people haha, lets see how long it stays that way! My pleasure mate :)

[@michaelroyston719]

These videos are superb Curtis. It's really nice to have this kind of information disseminated because it's surprisingly difficult to come across explicitly in games. Even when I was D2 in season 4 or 5 I was just starting to come across concepts like priority etc. Great stuff!

[@LeDore38]

For Olaf you didn't mention the machette

[@randomperson-cq6lb]

your videos are so rich and spot on they are also entertaining if i had something to add that would be to sum up all the important point in the end because i forgot some of them

[@leopoldszczegocinski1619]

Generally I want to tell you something. This season I've started playing rankeds, and after losing 10 placements in a row I got iron 1. I think then, I have to improve my macro skills in this game, and I found you. I've started watching your videos, write in my notebook the most important things, and try to improve them on drafts. And you know, I am in platinum 3 now . I can't wait next video!

[@CoachCurtis]

Wow awesome to hear Leopold! Thanks so much for sharing that with me. Goodluck on your climb mate

[@williamliu5188]

How did u improve so fast?

[@leopoldszczegocinski1619]

I think it is a question of this that I am not iron player. This were my first placements and after 10loses I got it.

[@leopoldszczegocinski1619]

Then I stopped playing rankeds, and startsed watching coach

[@omegacode7406]

I was a hardstuck silver then i started watching skill capped got to g1 and now i discovered this chanell and really love he is going in-depht.

[@roberthunter6560]

I play jungle, working on impacting mid more and so trying to understand mid laners. This video is amazing for mids to watch! Many of the tips are things that I really don't like as a jungler and could end up taking away a lot of my tempo and pressure. Especially true when spotting early game junglers that wana gank level three. If they can't then they begin falling off every minute that your farming jungler is scaling! Thanks for the great videos Coach, maybe I'll even pick up mid sometime xd!

[@CoachCurtis]

Thanks for tuning in Robert :) This video isn't just for mid laners, a lot of great tips here for how junglers can better punish laners and how they can actually work together a lot better.

[@roberthunter6560]

@@CoachCurtis I 100% agree! That's why I'm here, to increase my skills in the mid 2v2! Thanks for the sick content. It's great to have during this pandemic lockdown! Cheers from South Africa!

[@marciomolina5525]

@coachcurtis think you could update this video to new jg items? and also the warding video for the new ward placements?

[@aggronex720]

As a main jungler, that never plays in lane i have to say this is very detailed, this should be basics for laners, got few more tips that could be very useful. First you forgot about twich jungle and his level 2 ganks (and where to ward to avoid the first blood while not playing like a bi***), second is a big tip for higher elo, do not get your ward on raptors get spotted at 1.30, junglers can crate mindgames and avoid that ward so you feel safe while you actually are not, in general a good tip is not to get seen placing those wards because sometimes they harm more than they benefit if spotted, another tip is to check the bush on the oppsite side of the red wall(while warding raptors) , there might be a defensive pink and you will lose only 2seconds more so its definitely worth. And it worked for me and maybe could work for you too about your camera problem, i use my f1 f2 f3...keys on my mouse so i can quickly check all lanes, as a jungler i use them every time my teammates lose health, breaks a fight and whenever i change mapside, could work for midlaners too.

[@CoachCurtis]

Yeah in hindsight I probably should have mentioned twitch jungle. I think thats a great point though about trying not to get seen warding as a mid laner. I actually have 2 of the lanes bound on my mouse but I need more side buttons :(

[@danseps]

I watched this video already like 3 Times And for me, this is deffinitelly the most helpfull vid you've done. I love it

[@CoachCurtis]

Appreciate it Dan the man.

[@nylenasir3581]

Great video coach. But I’ve got a question. When I’m playing something like a Kassadin mid and I can’t push out, what do I do with my wards? I often sit on 2 wards because it’s very risky to get a ward on the dot brush.

[@subaruthecar2217]

I believe that in one of his vision videos he mentioned that champs with no early pressure such as Kass and Vlad can use their trinkets to get deep vision at level 1.

[@RxzeroCP]

What I'd recommend is : Let the enemy push, let the wave crash, build a slow push, make it crash under the enemy's turret and then you will be able to ward more efficiently.

[@RxzeroCP]

Although that could take a bit long, it's safer and more guaranteed to work at least

[@CoachCurtis]

Either ward around 2:20 while getting pushed in inbetween the waves OR ward level 1 on the raptors :) OR sit on the 2 wards for a little bit and ward just as the wave is bouncing of your tower at lvl 3. Remember if you do ward as your minion wave is bouncing out, to be assessing gank threat, your junglers location and the time in the game

[@Spageety]

Thank you so much for posting all these vids. I'm newish and have much to learn. Thanks from NY

[@ryuustrider823]

I just found your channel yesterday and i tried watching one of your videos, it was lit, the content is great, ur coaching is amazing and i just finished watching my 7 th video (this one) im getting on a soloq now and imma try it, im excited! KEEP AT IT MAN, your channel is going to Explode anytime soon.

[@CoachCurtis]

Appreciate the kind words man! Thanks for tuning in to all my videos :)

[@FlynnVLRBR]

Curtis post, I like for real tho, you 're by far the best league educational content creator I've been watching you since I started playing league 5 months ago, and your videos helped me to improve a lot in very little time Thank you for all the great content man, you're awesome!

[@CoachCurtis]

awesome to hear man, appreciate the support Tom

[@MrMiki43]

This is a video i've been looking for i was not able to hit over d4 cuz i didn't really have good jg tracking and was holding me down to climb.Even tho iwas tracking jg somewhat decent i was never able to do it really efficiently and somehow always get caught by jungler even tho i knew he was on my side of the map. Nice video!

[@CoachCurtis]

My pleasure man, glad I could help you out

[@rorolonglegs4594]

Such a great video. Your channel is vastly underated.

[@CoachCurtis]

Appreciate it man , thanks for the support

[@defensedefense4942]

I’m gonna be honest, I never jungle tracked in my life.

[@CoachCurtis]

A lot of lower elo players don't, so I thought it'd be good to show whats possible :)

[@rayenelafrit64]

Hi just found the channel and already watched all episodes of mid fundamentals, great and unique content ! keep up your channel will blow up soon

[@CoachCurtis]

Appreciate it Rayen :) Thank you so much

[@strahinjajankvic9384]

Dude you're a genius, these guides are so in depth and useful

[@CoachCurtis]

Appreciate it man, glad I could help you out :)

[@peepo19]

Rengar has a cheese route on blue side that allows him to be top at 2:30, it’s red, 2 small raptors, wolves, blue.

[@KingTut927]

Just picked up league and have been watching tons of your videos! Quick question: you talk about talisman vs machete junglers, but how do you know/guess if they are starting blue buff or red buff?

[@ketilmathiasenviborg3542]

Great video again! Also for beginner junglers. One small thing, in my experience many machete junglers do not do Golems on the first clear or last in the clear. Golems takes the longest and is far from river. I as an Elise and WW main would almost always take blue, gromp, wulves and red. Then gank, scuttle, clear rest or reset. Golems are great to take when comming from base its on your way onto the map 🙂.

[@CoachCurtis]

Hey Ketil, in lower elo you are spot on. Most junglers don't do krugs which is actually a big mistake since you want to clear them asap, because on your second clear Krugs are really valuable and get you very far ahead. Now even if you do the other path where you do Blue-->Gromp-->Red etc the timings are all similar the the warding and tracking stuff still applies :)

[@ketilmathiasenviborg3542]

Yea it is a small thing and does not change the warding position, it only change what side to lean on. Really, i have not seen that pathing in plat. Ill check it out 🙂. Thanks again 😊!

[@searching4skill33]

Comment for the algorythm Btw. incredible guide, as always ;)

[@CoachCurtis]

[@joetehbro]

Aye, just found your channel and I love the content. Just a suggestion though, it would be lit if you got a drawing pad or something to draw arrows; it's really a small detail, but it would look fire. Also, if possible, cheat sheets would be great to have as a way to remember the contents of your lectures.

[@CoachCurtis]

I have something in store so stay tuned for those cheat sheets ;) But a drawing pad would be awesome I gotta look into that for sure

[@gg_Talon]

So I don’t know if this a stupid question, but what about jungle tracking around mid game? I actually figured a lot of those wards out on my own intuitively, so the early game is usually okay. I sometimes watch King Nidhogg’s videos where he precisely tracks the enemy jungler by consistently counting their cs, but how can you do that when junglers often catch waves when their laners die or back? It would mess up their cs in tab. I feel like mid game tracking could help with objectives like drake or rift herald. Amazing video, by the way :)

[@CoachCurtis]

Mid game jungle tracking doesn't really exist. Any jungle tracking post 7-9 mins is not realistic because there are too many variables. The only thing you can do is make educated guesses based off how laners are playing, what the next objective is, and which side of the map is actually winning. :)

[@btayar2412]

At 43 mins, you are against yi, so basically he should take the red side then move to the other side for blue and you should ward around 2:30 in bush at blue side so you can see him depending on what you explained earlier. My question is why did you ward the raptors while its a machete jungler at 2:15

[@KurzedMetal]

Mid lane main doing the best informative Jungle video I've seen so far :3 Shame on Junglers, Midlaners 5Head (or maybe just Curtis)

[@CoachCurtis]

Hahaha we will be the big brain role

[@Mist1260]

just a quick heads up, qiyana's not a jungler who starts machete, she's better off going talisman since she needs that mana regen early on, plus, she can use grass q to heal at multiple camps with the burn. other than that, its a pretty nice guide, keep up the good work!

[@SwiftBlade17]

Nice Video, I can finally Understand how junglers clear and gank. Thank You.

[@CoachCurtis]

No problem Manveer :) Glad I could help you out!

[@lazerwithaz3434]

Hey Coach Curtis, do you think that the new jungle items in season 11 will effect some of the concepts taught in this video, primarily VSing talisman/machete junglers, or will champions still maintain the same clears as before? And if those concepts will still be worthy to learn and applicable?

[@bingsoo2743]

Hi Coach, I love your videos and ur channel is awesome. You put a lot of effort into them and they are very informative and has helped me improve a lot. Keep up the great vids! I have a question regarding warding in the enemy jungle(near raptors). You said that after the first ward expires around 4min we should place another one. What if the jungler find the ward and get rid of it because when the first ward expires it leaves the blue mark showing where the first ward is so they may know. I was just curious about this.

[@CoachCurtis]

I don't really know about that interaction, they can't use sweeper twice anyway, so even if they know its warded its still massive for you because it gives you a big side to lean to :)

[@bingsoo2743]

@@CoachCurtis ah ok, anyways ty for ur vid, I learnt a lot from it

[@saffironix7776]

Curtis i have a question. In my games i see that the junglers, no matter if they're machete or talisman, they start in the buff where the bot lane is to get a better leash. I didn't see any talisman jungler start in red. Maybe is just because i'm platinum 2 and junglers aren't that good. But in that case where should i ward? Thank you for all the guides, i'm feeling better at the game every day and that is only because of you!! :)

[@CoachCurtis]

Hahaha that is usually something you see in silver. But in Platinum that really shouldn't be happening often LOL. But if you know for a fact that they started blue then just ward raptors or the opposite side dot brush because you know which side they will end up on :)

[@saffironix7776]

@@CoachCurtis Thanks my lovely coach!!

[@Turk656]

I'm not sure how the "chapter" segments thing in youtube works (you have it for some of your coaching videos in particular where you label what's the discussed topic at what times), but it would be really nice if this video could also get a similar treatment, given that it's an hour long :)

[@gigantycznejabko9362]

If anyone is wondering, this is not outdated. Stays accurate to what happens, even if items built are only talisman.

[@Arzhanov04]

So the junglers who used to buy matchete now are buying Emberknife, and this ones who used to buy Talisman, now are buying Hailblade, or I'm not understanding it?

[@gigantycznejabko9362]

Nope. Everyone buys talisman, but you track them as if they had machete, if they’re the machete champions.

[@primordial6966]

Jo i dont know if it matters yet, but qiyana uses talisman quite well, by using it with the stealth q you can heal up alot and get a very healthy clear.

[@CoachCurtis]

Yeah I mentioned this in a few other comments , my mistake

[@primordial6966]

@@CoachCurtis NP, great video otherwise, keep up the great work

[@JeppeS96]

The only thing seperating good jungle qiyana from bad jungle qiyana players is using the talisman on her to stay healthy in aoe camps by utilizing the invis for as long possible before camps reset. Thats due to the nerf of her W passive AS. So you dont wanna take the Hunters Machete as you recommend. And the level 3 path for machete users who likes to level 3 gank isnt red -> krugs -> blue, but red -> blue -> gromp. Krugs take way too lang time to clear and the path is just bad and slow. Great video though, keep up the GREAT content.

[@CoachCurtis]

Appreciate the feedback man, makes a lot of sense :)

[@jususi71]

gonna bingewatch the whole thing, probably today

[@CoachCurtis]

Take your time, it's a bit heavy

[@mohamadzakaria96]

"Like first. Watch the video after liking." Vi 2020

[@CoachCurtis]

Hahaha make sure you watch it all!

[@Phoeniiks.E]

26:16 Curtis mate, you're the next picasso, nice guide once again, you are really helping people be better, and all your subs are actually future challengers xD, i have one question though, how to counter this tracking for reksai for example, maybe oracle to clear the raptors at 2 30 ?

[@CoachCurtis]

You mean if they use sweeper on your ward?

[@Phoeniiks.E]

@@CoachCurtis yes, using sweeper as the rek sai, i try to find a counter to the tracking

[@xuanwang347]

Another great video as always! Btw coach, is there any possibilities that u can creat view only google docs for these fundamental videos that just list out major points of each video and post a link in descrption? That would be way more efficient for us to revisit the video.

[@CoachCurtis]

I've got something in the works, don't worry :)

[@berlenbombercraftlp3582]

I noticed that you put Qiyana in the Machete section but she is actually pretty reliant on talisman in combination with her brush Q to stay healthy in her clears!

[@CoachCurtis]

Yeah I actually noticed this from another comment pointing that out, I got put off because a few qiyana junglers I've seen also go machete but I think she is one of those versatile ones

[@ushandrul]

Well, i'm quite agree with you about the tracking & pathing But it works on hi elo, where junglers know better. In low elo, it's not that simple! Junglers can be unpredictible with erratics moves.

[@CoachCurtis]

I do mention this within the video, that in gold 4 and below jungle tracking is very hard because the junglers don't know what they are doing. But with the jungle understanding like I talk about in my examples, you can still know what camps they have/haven't done.

[@khanondrum]

Is there any chance of this being updated for the new jungle items and champion meta?

[@oraziorillo9878]

Man, your videos are so detailed, I literally love them. Btw I have a question about the case in which I am versing a a Talisman jungler: for this situation you suggested 2 very deep ward locations. But if I am not able to push my lane I won't have the priority to put any deep ward, so how should I use my early wards in this case?

[@CoachCurtis]

You can also still just ward dot brush inbetween the waves around 2:30-2:40 if you want to see them on the scuttle eventually, or you can even ward raptors level 1 :)

[@Aphixy]

Hey coach could you perhaps redo this video and how it applies to the new meta especially now since there is only blue and red smite and no longer machete and talisman. Thanks.

[@julius3167]

Hey,great video as always . :) Are you going to create a Talon mid guide in future? I would love to see one!

[@CoachCurtis]

hey man, for sure in the future at some point :)

[@julius3167]

@@CoachCurtis Would be amazing :)

[@diwakardayal954]

I have never been so much interested in jungling lol, thanks , can you release a guide for top lane?

[@CoachCurtis]

Unfortunately I'm only doing mid lane content for the time being :)

[@AdrianWan]

Found this so helpful thank you!

[@michael11291995]

I love these videos Curtis! They are extremely helpful. What do you think about Azir in the current meta? Also, what leagues would to define as 'high elo?' Thanks!

[@CoachCurtis]

I think Azir is actually not too bad, currently with Lethal Tempo or even Hail of Blades it's not bad. I'm actually going to do a video on him soon. I define high elo Master+ or GM+

[@michael11291995]

@@CoachCurtis Thanks! I can't wait for the video!!

[@RAramon]

why does noctrune starts with machete when his passive and his q is for focusing more than one creep, also love your videos coach!

[@matlc3253]

Thanks for your quality content mate, I'm actually starting to figure things out better and climbing Elo.

[@CoachCurtis]

My pleasure Mat!

[@DarkMatterVisuals_]

Hey Curtis! Love your videos, not trying to be rude but, do you know or recommend any channels similar to yours? I main jungle and, I get a lot of value out of your videos bc i go mid second but, just thought I would ask. Keep up the great work!

[@CoachCurtis]

Hey mate, my friend Nathan Mott has a good channel for jg, I've pinned his channel in the comment section

[@DarkMatterVisuals_]

@@CoachCurtis Wow sorry for not checking through the comments didnt expect it to be right there thanks!

[@darkdamnation22]

This is such a good tip vid, don't stop !

[@juansong22]

Hellooow. So far so good with the ekko guide, 10 games 10 wins with him in midlane. Thanks coach

[@CoachCurtis]

ayyyy thats what I like to hear!

[@StormKamui]

Love the super detailed coaching videos, they are so helpful! Hopefully will let you know once I hit diamond :)

[@CoachCurtis]

Let me know man!

[@jonjarvie6382]

Bro you're so underrated. Riot should have a segment with you lol.

[@CoachCurtis]

Hopefully one day :)

[@caozicoaching]

So are you saying that you always get shoved in on purpose if you are playing a melee vs ranged matchup or are there certain conditions that have to be in this particular matchup (+jungle matchup)? And how do you know that for instance a lee sin or any other machete jungler will do a Red--->to krugs----> to blue clear OR a Red---> to Blue.---> To gromp clear? Or is it just a 50/50 ?

[@CoachCurtis]

The red/krugs/blue vs Red/blue/gromp really doesn't change too much, the only difference is that the gromp path is a bit faster, aslong a you are warding at 2:30 you are fine regardless, there is no way of knowing. Generally it really depends on the matchup both mid and jungle. There is no clear cut formula :)

[@KyleBarta]

curtis I'm in Gold 3-4 and 90% of the games I play my jungler starts bot side for a bot side leash. this makes it very difficult to track because they do it even on junglers that would normally start on the opposite side for aoe camps like raptors. I could just always ward topside at 2:30 but if they happen to have started top it leaves me feeling very blind and unsafe. Thoughts?

[@bobatea1095]

Amazing video man! definitely gonna apply what u taught in my next few games

[@CoachCurtis]

Thanks man, my pleasure!

[@curtisfox8175]

Extremely helpful video on jungle tracking thank you!

[@CoachCurtis]

My pleasure Curtis :)

[@dawidlol1337]

Great video but whenever I play both junglers take completely random paths with no logic to them and there always seems to be a jungle diff... I've switched from support to mid as I think I understand the game better now and my friend has decided to do jungle but he isn't the greatest if he doesn't get fed. On a separate note, would it be beneficial to play a bit of jungle to understand the opponent's thinking? I usually bully the enemy mid but the reason I ultimately lose lane is that the enemy jungle gets fed and just constantly camps mid and I can't even farm under tower without getting one shot. Is there anything a mid can do to stop that apart from the usual ff15 and spamming jg diff in all chat, I learnt that much from my short experience of league.

[@caozicoaching]

You said that when I am versing a kindred I should ward in front of the pit before the wave arrives but how does that help if kindred COULD just go from red---going river --- passing pixel brush into the blasting cone? Like how am I or my team gonna see her Then? I kinda calculated that kindred needs like almost most junglers 10 sec for red buff (+ 2; -2 seconds) so at around --1:40-- she finished red --- going to pixelbrush should take her like around 10 seconds so we at ~1:50 game time and from there she will need like 5 seconds to the blasting cone (or she q's over to blue) and at around ~2:00 gametime she she will start blue which will take her like 13-14 seconds so at 2:13-2:14 there is no way my jungler will be there at blue. I am thinking like that it's a 50/50 guess if she goes through pit after red or she moves through from red normally to blasting cone (Don't get me wrong it would be dumb to go like a regular jungler from red to blasting cone if they invade because it's time inefficient for kindred to do ). All I'm saying is that ESPECIALLY in low elo kindreds that vertical jungle won't use their q to skip terrain so they would just move to blasting cone and if they do that the ward I placed in front of the pit wouldn't spot her. EDIT: I have no idea why some stuff is crossed out Ps: I just wanted to see if there is like high elo players that do exactly the same specific strat curtis was talking about when It comes like to kindred and bro... the first thing I was searching in search bar was "Dopa tf vs zed" (why dopa? Because I am a fan boy of him) and dopa was actually versus a kindred in that game and holy shit he placed the ward right where you said in the video. Now you got full credibility my man curtis.

[@aeonangel2584]

yo man i will get challenger from these videos :) thx for this contect keep the amazing work

[@CoachCurtis]

Keep up the grind!

[@EnzzoCz0708]

I always like to play 2v2 with my jg to fight at 3:15, is Zed good? I know from your videos that Zoe is good, Sylas is it too, Rumble (with heal even more), but I'm not sure if assasins as Zed, Fizz, Irelia or Nocturne are good... is there any way to know that quickly because I would like to know if my enemy is better than me or at least even in 2v2s just by seeing if he is a mage, an assasin or something like that.

[@cekavicok]

24:00 Actually if you are clearing blue buff and play against kindred by the time she finish red and come your blue, you will be doing gromp and he will be on maybe 30% hp and thats ez kill for her.

[@Arzhanov04]

So the junglers who used to buy matchete now are buying Emberknife, and this ones who used to buy Talisman, now are buying Hailblade, or I'm not understanding it?

[@MrTriple3D]

No

[@harley4683]

Okay, so i just picked up Diana about a week ago, (roughly the same time i started watching your amazing video's) and i have been doing really well in my ranked games. I have tried putting your advice to practice def not easy as i am not a great macro player, but i am finding my self winning games based on my opponent goofing up and me punishing them in lane. So i don't know if its that i am good, or they are bad. Do you think i should slow down my 1v1's, even though they are working? I'm worried it might just be reinforcing bad habits rather than me actually improving.

[@CoachCurtis]

Honestly if you are winning just keep at it, my guides will come into play once you start plateauing, and are struggling to find out what to improve on :) So keep it up man!

[@harley4683]

@@CoachCurtis I have definitely learned alot, its implementation I'm still working on but thank you so much for the hard work you put into this fantastic content

[@verwundert]

around 25:00, Graves does a similar thing as kindred/rek'sai.

[@robertopulina9107]

Jeez, I freaking love your guides!

[@CoachCurtis]

Thanks Roberto :)

[@jackmarrot5316]

Is this the last video or are you planning to do more mid lane fundamentals?

[@CoachCurtis]

My next video is going to be another one within this series :)

[@florin920]

I don t even play mid but i find your videos very helpfull

[@CoachCurtis]

Awesome to hear :)