Controversial Debuts In K-pop pt2

[@CoCo-ov9eb]

The hypocrisy of netizens saying piggy dolls promote an unhealthy lifestyle when Kpop idols have to starve themselves to stay skinny.

[@utatwt8688]

Ikrrr

[@hyunlvrr]

They literally promoted that you dont have to be skinny to be beautiful- why are ppl like this

[@mateomtv8469]

Also something so funny is that these people who say these mean comments probably have an unhealthy life style.

[@blinkforever7541]

I swear to God those netizens are on crack

[@SuperArea31]

Shows how much you know about dieting if you believe starving yourself is the only way to remain skinny.

[@pinkicechuu]

Fun fact about Piggy Dolls: Eunyoung, a member of the second line-up, redebuted in PinkFantasy under stage name SeeA! ^^

[@Butterball2829]

Wait... THATS THE SAME GIRK

[@ELmayberry]

ooh.. Love SeeA

[@Whitneygraciedolly]

SeeA is so cute and talented. 🥰

[@Angel-l6e8l]

Omg i never knew this

[@froglix739]

omg i love her

[@unvitals]

The WAO one is really sad. Nobody deserves a lot of hate especially over their body or appearance. 😕

[@CaitCher]

Like how fucking sick can people be?

[@utatwt8688]

@@CaitCher ikr

[@louise3630]

Let's support them !! I'm already stanning them since debut

[@SherylAnneTBien]

I did a video about WAO last week. Those KNetz went too far in mass reporting their Twitter account, just because they are not handsome to fit the beauty standards in K-Pop. I hope that those boys won't get affected by the undeserved hate they received.

[@amyanai8651]

I know I’ve seen so many idols receive hate but this was my breaking point, I was bullied and tormented because I didn’t meet my hometowns beauty standards and suffered for it. It took years for me to over come it I would never wish that on another person.

[@airiri236]

I don't stan WAO, but the members are so cute, its so sad that some people hate idols because of looks :(

[@elmin82]

there's nothing wrong in their looks

[@CaitCher]

@@elmin82like literally nothing wrong. I literally did not understand the hate at all.

[@benmemon]

@@CaitCher fucking exactly. they dont deserve it, not even a bit. nobody deserves to have their physical appearance insulted.

[@Sheepy16able]

When i read about the reason why their Twitter Account was temporary closed, my First thought was literally: "wow we reached a new Level of stupidity" 😖😖

[@kweenlenglengfansite1080]

ALSO !! toxic netizens hated them because there's this rumor that they paid their way to debut.

[@lolo-no9pm]

there's so many standards in kpop that it's so hard to debut even if you're talented as heck,

[@kpopstan4ever641]

EXACTLY!

[@tamiamurphy7820]

Why is it always about looks in kpop? Like netizens complain that some idols aren’t talented and their only talent is their looks but when a group is very talented they still get picked on because they aren’t attractive enough like what more do you want from them?

[@by_tianowen]

preach

[@havensohn3821]

Netizens are just never satisfied. No one will actually win against them.

[@ELmayberry]

right 🙄

[@yuki97kira]

I always hate when people is not listening to good songs because the singer is "ugly"...i mean, thats like someone asks me where im going and i said im 20...

[@rujamofficial6777]

I often forget how controversial Trouble Maker really were. Like geez but this series is very interesting and I love it. Keep up the great work!!

[@ELmayberry]

yeah, same.

[@simran_draws6025]

Honestly even if Trouble Maker was “controversial “ It was still one of the most Iconic Duos in Kpop! Unfortunately there won’t be any such groups in Kpop now:( And I mean the fact they were dating behind the scenes just makes it better I think I mean their sexy scenes seemed natural and they felt comfortable with each other , Not to mention their chemistry on Screen was just another level ! cause most of the times when idols try to pull of such concepts it rather looks Akward than sensual.

[@grunklestan603]

I mean Hyuna and Dawn are planning on doing a project together and I have high hopes since I already loved them in Triple H

[@havensohn3821]

Yeah I kinda had a feeling they broke up when they didn't come back after now.

[@yuki97kira]

I hear one about hyuna and dawn...not really their fans. But jessis fan and theyre in the same company

[@ebiUsher]

i think something that should have been mentioned but wasn't is the fact that hyuna was only 17 when she debuted as a soloist, meaning that not only was she underage, but that she was starring in a music video she herself wouldn't have been able to watch. i often think that netizens babying their idols and not allowing them to mature is ridiculous, but guess what: she was a minor, she wasn't supposed to be "mature", thus cube should have never put her in that situation to begin with. in that sense, people had all the right to be outraged, not at hyuna, but at cube.

[@amyanai8651]

The W.O.A One I was so shocked people could be so cruel it literally broke me to tears. As a victim and surviver of severe bullying for my appearance when I was young. Seeing this group get so much hate hurt me. I wish them all the best in the future and will support them endlessly I hope they can over come this and achieve success.

[@HectorH-M]

Survivor*

[@sammymb07]

Troublemaker was my first introduction to kpop and 10 years later I still f love the song SO much

[@rambosapphire4463]

11:33 - this is actually a really good point. I personally have no issues with non-Koreans in kpop IF their home base is in South Korea and IF they speak Korean or are learning to speak the language (and obviously create their music using the language). You can't say you're kpop and not even run your operations from Korea....that should be common sense.

[@scottietrademark]

Its so funny to me that netz were hating on piggy doll for "promoting unhealthy habits" when we all know their faves starve themselves to keep their skinny bodies.

[@suyeesia7770]

Yes

[@Dervis128]

I would love to see a deep dive into Global Icon (GI). Their group was such a roller coaster. They had a unique concept, their company did their best to say that they were going to have a "global debut," but just uploaded their song to different digital platforms in different countries, then two members sued the company for mismanagement, the group went through line up changes, and completely re-did their image....it was a whole mess....

[@aesist]

I know this will probably NEVER happen, but we need another group like piggy dolls again. They were so talented and beautiful, and I loved their concept. I wanna see plus sized girl groups with powerful voices on stage again! As a plus sized girl myself, that would make me happy to see. Piggy dolls shouldn’t have had to lose weight to fit the beauty standards in Korea. They were beautiful just the way they were. Being plus sized doesn’t make you fat, and being fat doesn’t mean you aren’t beautiful. I hate the word fat, but it’s a term so many people use.. 🙄

[@aghasearmyshawolblinkonce8039]

the fact that even when they lost weight and netizens still were nasty towards just makes me upset.

[@greenturkey2303]

one of the piggy dolls members is in pinkfantasy now and i agree 100% with what you said

[@maddieee8554]

i like your pfp

[@miwami.]

True! But I also heard their company would force them to be fat.. so there's that--

[@bongowrld]

I think the concept would work better now

[@chaewonsglasses]

right after I was done taking my pizza out of the oven, you decided to upload a part two?????? I applaud you!

[@lavendervvitch99]

I just learned about Lana & have been weirdly fascinated by her. It's definitely an interesting issue - unlike Kaachi and EXP Edition, she did go through the training system and learn the Korean language. She also technically *is* Asian - she might be Caucasian but she was born in the easternmost part of Russia, near Japan. The main issues with her, I think, were that her debut song was poorly mixed (it's actually kind of a bop but god the mixing is awful) and that her live vocals were kind of weak - which could have been nerves, or it could've been that maybe she needed a little more training in that area, who knows. But obviously these things weren't really her fault - her company, while small, could have handled things a lot better. Maybe things might have also been better if she debuted in a group instead of solo. Anyway, I'm glad she seems to be doing well for herself in the Chinese market.

[@Lifunia]

I remember when Piggy Dolls debuted. My first thought was, why did they have to give the girls that name? Is it because they're not skinny enough to fit the korean beauty standard? I then became happy to see that Korea might finally open up a bit towards different body shapes.. but boy was I wrong. Their story is really sad :/

[@camila-qj9ch]

as a queer person, i'm not sure if you could say a real person is "queerbaiting", because while of course companies would do anything to appeal to a broader public, we're talking about real people here. we don't know if the artists in question are actually queer or not, especially in an environment so conservative like sk, so I don't think is fair to treat the self-expression of an artist/group at the same level of the writing of a fictional character, because again, they are real human beings.

[@chenmae9747]

Yeah, but assuming they are straight is just as bad, unless they come out. (Which would probably happen, never.) That they are queer or straight we don’t know. Like they are lgbtq idols, they exist.

[@TMJW]

Same, it’s very messy when you’re talking about real people. I’m more bothered by the fanservice aspect - if this is just to titillate a straight audience, I’m uncomfortable with that, then it really does make queerness a performance for the appeal of a straight person’s fetish

[@pinkicechuu]

2:39 the way Red Velvet and OnlyOneOf are my 2 ult groups- 💀 But let me say OnlyOneOf actually portrayed LGBT couples! The members themselves said they were acting as partners and some scenes in the MV are referencing LGBT movies, it was not a pure marketing strategy but an actual representation. And of course it's sexy, the title of the song is literally libidO- 💀

[@jiminscomputer]

I agree.

[@jiminscomputer]

They did represent the LGBT in a good way, not in a queerbating way.

[@GotInterest]

I don't know about that. As a gay man the video made me a bit uncomfortable. It felt kinda "sexy gay men aimed at a female audience" tbh. Like it's sexy, which is fine. It never felt fetishy to me. But like... it did not feel authentically gay to me so I don't really consider it praise-worthy representation. There was some stuff there. But the video definitely felt aimed at women and not gay men. Same thing goes for the Red Velvet video. Weirdly the best kpop video i've seen with this concept is Chuu's Heart Attack. It just feels authentically sweet. Reminds me of having a crush in high school.

[@aspidiske]

@@GotInterest @PINK ICE CHUU that's because the creative director is the same, Jaden Jeong. Not sure about what he wants to send out as a message but it has always been his theme (even probably during his time with Lovelyz)

[@bettschwere]

@@GotInterest i'm a gay man and i didn't feel that way at all. it feels and looks like a gay indie movie.

[@Megan-bw5zh]

Oh, Imitation clips! I love your videos. Once there's more episodes out, you should definitely do one on how realistically the industry is portrayed in this drama. It's scary how much goes on behind the scenes and how many struggles trainees and idols face when they're not "on camera".

[@stafeleez]

2:24 Not at you putting that clip of minsan there lmao😂

[@mingiandchangbintiddiessup6568]

that is woosan 😅

[@heonniebee4679]

The thing is kpop is the biggest culture appropriation ever, I don't understand how Korean and international netizens can hate on american people or people that aren't Korean being in kpop when kpop isn't even it's own thing

[@auroraj161]

Can you do an entire video on ranias/blackswans controversial debuts and their shady company??

[@emsbanifufu2642]

If Midnight Theory does make a video on Rania/Blackswan or a general video on DR Music, I hope they cover about how DR Music tried to sample a Tupac rap verse without having the rights cleared for Baby V.O.X's lead single for their last album, causing a scandal big enough to kill their cash cow. It completely reflects DR Music's shady behavior later on down the road with their artists they debuted after Baby V.O.X. (I might still be a bitter Baby Angel 17 years later after the said event.) I'm just happy that DR Music didn't try to market Blackswan as the fourth generation of Baby V.O.X.

[@figcookies1389]

Ploopy768 has a great video on Rania, you should check it out

[@auroraj161]

@@emsbanifufu2642 oooh I never knew that!

[@auroraj161]

@@figcookies1389 I have :)

[@AustinT97]

The hate W.A.O got when those teasers came out was totally unjustified but sadly that's I how heard about them cause someone mentioned it on Twitter and so I checked out their debut and I loved it it gives me 2nd gen vibes which is nice. Also, I would like to see a deep dive video on Global Icon I'm very curious about their history

[@caitpatterson2685]

If you do a part 3 you have to talk about Naked Girls. Also would love a deep dive for any of these group

[@LegalVampire]

The fact that netizens criticised Piggy Dolls for promoting an ‘unhealthy lifestyle’ is LAUGHABLE when you think about how they praise othrt idols for being super thin, dieting constantly, and restricting their food to the point of fainting on stage. They’re obsessed with unhealthy restrictive eating, but can’t stand someone with a bit of fat on them 🙄 It’s sad

[@jorojam10]

I'd be interested to hear more about how Lana has been treated. As someone who hopped on the hate bandwagon at the time, it was really eye opening when you mentioned that international fans expect to have such a large say in a genre that they think needs protecting from outside influences.

[@felix3678]

Am I really the only one who thinks that W.A.O just looks as beautiful as every other idol group?

[@suyeesia7770]

True

[@NaraKwonPoD]

GLOBAL ICONNNN YOOOO I USED TO LISTEN TO THEM SOOOO MUCH AS A KID

[@dvramaar]

with all these strict rules and standards and the high risk of being bashed by the public, i don't even know how so many idols had the guts to even debut, i'd be way too scared and lose all motivation

[@IMMATERIAL_HEART]

I don’t think Tail is queerbating since Sunmi has said she likes girls too ?

[@jayceyallen7745]

Look yeah task is definitely not queerbaiting sunmi is either bi or just the ultimate ally

[@adrii4016]

Shes never said she likes girls shes just shown her support for the LGBTQ community

[@theraefication]

sorry but when did sunmi said it? can you send me the link

[@Steph489]

@@theraefication she didn’t

[@racheld8920]

Let's not forget that Hyuna was barely legal when she debuted in Troublemaker and that her partner was almost a decade older than her -_-

[@justmeflover]

Piggy dolls's what is love still on my playlist,they have one of the best vocal on kpop history imo

[@Cthomp91]

I’m looking at WAO and trying to understand how they don’t fit Korean standards????? They’re all gorgeous???

[@annakinnss3103]

can we talk about how hyuna couldn’t even watch her own debut video because it was 19+ and she was literally a minor at the time

[@somnia_stan]

I feel sorry for Lana because she is very talented, dances well, has a beautiful voice, knows English, Korean, Chinese and Russian, I love Lana and hope that she will return as a singer ❤️

[@aprils1888]

Part three HAS to have LIPBUBBLE!!!!

[@dragonrider4279]

10:26 I kinda get why people have a problem with artists that are not Korean but (for example) English, Russian, so it doesn't fit the typical idol image. But it seems strange to me, why are they not allowed to be a solo artist? If a (for example) Japanese, Chinese or x people join an group then it's cool and ok but if they become a solo artist then it's suddenly horror and forbidden?? (Without joining a group -> they start their careers alone) I get that it that if you go too far (,but how can that happen?) that in a case you might call something Kpop which isn't. But how do you know what Kpop actually is? For me it's a person who writes song that have at least some lyrics in Korean and who can write a song in any other language but I think that it would become strange if you would call somebody a Korean Idol, when the only Korean thing was the one sentence in that one song. I myself think that it sounds weird but idk. Lol :D

[@jayceyallen7745]

Tail (Sunmi) is not queerbaiting she is definitely an ally (also possibly closeted bi/les)

[@SuperArea31]

Because wether or not she is matters to you, how? Sunmi like most successful entertainers is a smart, and makes money from your desperate need for validation.

[@chenmae9747]

@@SuperArea31 Omg, shut up, and stop commenting everywhere, why you so salty bro.

[@SuperArea31]

@@chenmae9747 Why wouldn't I comment? This is an open discussion

[@willow3890]

Sunmi has said that she has romantic attraction to both men and women, there is queer and cannot queerbait

[@vale4364]

Omgg you included "imitation" clips :D

[@petabulmer7345]

I had not heard of Qodes or Global Icon before watching this video. Always nice to hear about something new!

[@mccnshyyne]

Not me immediately thinking all the wao boys were cute 💀. Antis are weird

[@Carolina-bw6gy]

Queerbait is something that happens a lot in literature, plays, media, etc. Sometimes they cant be direct because of lack of freedom or just art expression, other it is a tool to catch attention + the artist is flopping and needs desperate hype be it hate or support or just easy money. I dont blame the people that do it, I blame who is making money(idols dont gain that much anyway)

[@SuperArea31]

And? xD You have these "communities" endlesslesly speculating on which idols are and aren't. Theres a desperation for representation in every last drop of culture, why not make some coin from it?

[@chenmae9747]

@@SuperArea31 And? You wouldn’t understand if you weren’t apart of it, it’s not respectful to do something like that, it makes you a bad person, if you don’t care about other communities and only yourself and money.

[@pinkicechuu]

I love Lana, this girl is truly talented and hardworking ❤️ She's good at singing, she can rap, she's a great dancer and she actually knows Korean in addition to Russian and English, she even learnt Mandarin too for CHUANG and her promotions in China! Plus it's not hard to realize she's actually a very sweet girl, she's not acting like a koreaboo and always remained true to her Russian origins while being respectful towards the Korean culture. She really doesn't deserve the hate she got! ❤️

[@abbyl4621]

I agree. I've been following her after all the hate she got

[@ELmayberry]

yeah, she's awesome

[@TheJrockfreak]

Same I like her alot

[@creamii7017]

this !! i love her sm

[@crimson_sky]

I feel so bad for Lana. Everyone only talked about her race and never about anything positive. There are groups and artists that I don’t like, but I don’t go to there content and post hate comments. People need to get over themselves

[@altars.of.madness]

I'm so sad lana got hated for HER RACE although she is under a korean label and fluently speaks Korean. It's disgusting

[@jm1r4cl35]

more people need to start breaking the whole “only asians can be kpop idols” mindset. 🕺🏿

[@obbl1gato]

i am trying to stan wao since some of them really stood out to me. i just have to say that the fact that antis sent malicious comments to them was alone not okay but suspending their Twitter account because they "don't have visuals" (which i can't see at all) is really not okay you guys are sick for that. also about piggy dolls that's also not okay at all. calling them "overweight" and that they're promoting an unhealthy lifestyle, sending malicious comments to them because of that. but when they lose some weight and people protest because they aren't overweight now? kpop industry has gotten sick. always remember to not send hate to someone who doesn't deserve it; after a minor inconvenience.

[@ayusheesahu5339]

Why is it like, a group showing LGBTQ+ relationships blamed so much, while kpop fans (even kfans) engage in writing same sex fanfics??

[@NEWBOTANICA]

the fact hyuna's vid was rated 19+ whilst she was 17..

[@queenpanda1986]

glad i made it in time

[@DinkyPupper_]

Hello i’ve never been this early I just wanted to say thank you and that I truly enjoy the hard work and effort you put into your videos! Please have a good day!! Much love !

[@elmin82]

this is really interesting

[@Rouge_Ice]

- Trouble Maker? That song and choreography became iconic though.. it has been covered and parodied plenty of times on tv. - I remember watching another video about GI. What made me sad is that most of their "fans" basically abandoned them after they switch concepts and tried to stay true to their real selves, which as mentioned here, was girly. - Just like korean fans, international/non korean fans have their fair share of hypocrisy. I agree on that last comment about Lana, let the korean market decide if they want her or not. - Being fat and being on tv promotes unhealthy lifestyle? what kind of bullshit was that?!

[@miaaa693]

The Lana one pisses me off. I'm tired of international fans being privileged and being assholes for no reason and thinking they have a right and speak over actual Koreans and Koreans who live in South Korea. There is NOTHING wrong with people of ANY race being in K-Pop. As long as they have talent, went through the trainee system, speak Korean, and respect other artists and the culture, there is nothing wrong with it. And I'm Korean myself (I'm biracial). Lana can make good music. And as a singer, she is a good vocalist. And she went through the trainee system.

[@mitchystuff]

Honestly I think none of these idols deserved the backlash exept from the queerbaters. People shouldn't be criticised for looks in a music industry, people should be able to do the concepts they want and sexualising idols is gross on its own so like why not kiss on stage. I also think that K-pop should be able to include non Asian people, since K-pop literally only means Korean pop, pop in Korea, usually sang mostly in Korean. If you follow the training and learn how to speak the language I don't think there should be any problems with it.

[@nikkim119]

in lanas new song “it’s crazy” she did herself dirty there by saying the n word AND RELEASING IT thinking it was okay

[@Sheepy16able]

I guess there was a reason why Troublemaker were called Troublemaker 🤣🤭 they caused a Lot controversy And... Well, Trouble xD

[@karenr.8929]

But making groups with lgbt "concepts" are the best way to change Koreans society, to change its way fo thinking, to start accepting lgbt people and accepting that there are idols who are from lgbt community

[@michime7860]

I hope HYUNA wasn't forced to kiss or do this concept

[@multinsomnia5455]

Yeees we got part2!

[@yuki97kira]

Min seo is now in JDR records...there are some songs she had there, and covers..shes amazing

[@michime7860]

I hope WAO don't give up🔥FIGHTING❤️ Also no one deserves hate especially for their appearance 🔥

[@HorrorHound87]

Wow this was a Good Video, Midnight Theories I saw part 1 excited for part 3. Maybe in part 3 or another video you can examine Dreamcatcher and The Show- Alleged stolen Win controversy.

[@yuckitsjj]

W.A.O aren’t even ugly… so toxic

[@_twinklesprinkle]

I wouldn't say the hate non Asian idols face has lessened, just that it's always redirected anytime another non Asian person tries to pursue K-Pop. LANA faced hate for quite some time, then KAACHI debuted, and the haters decided to instead attack them instead. After them was BLACKSWAN's Fatou, and there's a chance that other members of the same group will become the next targets of the hate.

[@r3mm13arts]

Oh wow, I was really not expecting to see the story of Piggy Dolls end like that....has there ever even been an entire group that had their whole lineup changed like that before?? That's nuts, but I guess they just wanted to reuse the concept, but it feels odd to throw in 3 new girls who are drastically smaller than the old members when they sang about body positivity. Idk why they thought that would go over well with the fans.

[@kpopstan4ever641]

1:50 That's legit unnecessary hate. I have always believed this and I'll say it with no hesitation this time, most k-netizens are hypocrites and always want something to hate on.

[@Carolina-bw6gy]

Dope new intro~ Piggy dolls arent a bad idea at all. I am only against the name...like piggy isnt a compliment, being overweight isnt unnatural, bad or ugly at all :(

[@SienAppelsien]

W.A.O's debut is really good, its so sad that they got so much backlash when they are still goodlooking

[@kpopstan4ever641]

14:07 what exactly do netizens want anyway? honestly why cant idols live normal lives. Why can't they live as humans? or as actual idols and not objects?

[@Fatima-mz6zu]

The first comment about the queer-coding is really on point, coming out, be it in korea or in any part of the world, comes with the risk of being insulted, denigrated, sexualized and harassed, specially in the internet and specially by cishet people, sexual and gender identities are not a costume to put on when you want to get money from a minority that is desperate to get some representation of themselves, and will applaud anyone who give us some attention, even when it is only in a fetishizing way because we have no other way to see ourselves in the media, even if they are honest about it, it doesn't make it any better

[@multinsomnia5455]

Agreed

[@Carolina-bw6gy]

I love tomboy look in kpop but it is still rare 😭😭😭😭

[@bongowrld]

Piggy dolls concept is so good

[@yangyangdni]

bro the WAO guys are so good looking wtf do they mean?

[@TianXiaoMao]

Original Piggy Dolls were sooo good!

[@HobieInTheBox]

Trouble Maker was iconic, and OnlyOneOf are very comfy with their sexuality. Kpop idols deserve justice

[@jiakvrs3064]

global icon is just sad, they know they weren't portraying their real self but have to do it so they can debut

[@MissBrittneyofCourse]

probably the one that makes the least sense is WAO. they are lil cutie pies, very similar to any other boy group. I really don't get it.

[@jebipop]

it's funny looking back at people worrying about hyuna and hyunseung 'dating' now that hyuna and dawn are engaged after several years of publicly dating

[@racheld8920]

Lana has potential I think. She's really trying and I respect that.

[@07sarchives]

WAO isnt even ugly. im so confused???? the beauty standards are crazy man

[@freakinfiretruckxx]

Jeez, people can be so vile and judgemental.

[@mee6703]

3:59 these people are so self interested, thats not why they are 'capitalising' on it, as though we are a 'fetish'... what a joke. so self centered

[@s.m650]

Honestly, there is always so much tea going on sk that it’s overfilled currently.

[@hellogoodbyeandallinbetween]

I've not heard of w.a.o before. This is so upsetting, I hope they are not traumatised

[@emjeyyz3491]

haven't seen a.c.e, they got backlash on their debut too

[@Maya-ui1bv]

Not me Being here in the first hour of posting

[@chuuvestrain2712]

1:05 that's nayoung in the center right? What's the drama called?

[@LilianaC8927]

The QODES situation is a rough one, because the video for LALALA definitely falls more into sexualizing same sex female relationship, but we don't know how ok the women of the group were ok with using queerbaiting. The group seems to be talented, they even got to heavily influence the choreography among some other stuff according to a Instagram live they made, BUT their idea of "representation" was not very good, or helpful representation outside of some same sex people touching up on each other. Generally I find their other mv or as they call them "Quest" LIKE YOU, a much better depiction of a relationship between two women, be it platonic or romantic. They seem like a talented group of women so hopefully the LALALA discussion isn't the only thing they are remembered for, and leads to an end of their group.

[@yejun1984]

With onlyoneof their song libido isn't baiting anything. "Libido, which means sex drive or the desire for sex, varies dramatically from one person to the next. It also varies depending on a person's preferences and life circumstances. Libido can be affected by medical conditions, hormone levels, medications, lifestyle and relationship problems." It has nothing to do with being gay. They're showing a strong desire for sexual action. Also we have no idea if any of these people are gay, Lesbian, bi ect. If they actually were who are we to criticize them.

[@makingmusiccrippled9581]

I hate the hypocrites criticizing piggy doll for "promoting unhealthy lifestyles" when your typical idor literally has to starve themselves, get phasic surgery and do training with almost no rest Idc what anyone says they are cute and I hope that they are doing well and don't let the haters get to them

[@tkp97]

WAO are cute boys. Idk why they got hate.

[@cheshxre]

Bruh the boys of W.A.O are handsome even if they don't fit the "Standard" fcking standard anyway.🥺

[@jln_ily]

If they want a good looking person, then why they didn't stan a model instead?? Like duuhh... People today is so weird... 🙄

[@suyeesia7770]

Maybe

[@alolisa113]

oh my god G.I. thank you for mentioning them! They debuted only a few months before BTS and they had such similar styling lol what a shame members left and they didn't succeed

[@heeseungshighlight6792]

I came faster than my mom when she grabs the belt

[@XavieraMarie]

I really went into chuang 2020 not for lana and not liking her... But tbh you can really see her passion in that show and talk talk is honestly such a good song

[@LookieItsRaine]

who is the girl in yellow at 1:01?