Mikado Vbar Tuning!

In this video we go over tuning your mikado Vbar. This system has a ton of great features and one of the best is being able to adjust gain on the fly!
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[@dandorris8531]

I have nothing to fly but learning from your videos. I keep looking at my raptor 30 hanging in the garage and thinking soon I will have one of these new technology helicopters and get back into this great hobby. Thanks for all this great stuff and can’t wait to see the fly bar to fly bar less conversion on your raptor.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I really need to get my raptor 30 out and get it flying again! It’s ready for servos and has a cool story behind it. Next time I’m at my storage I’m going to get it pulled out and start getting it back together and make a video! I hope you get yours flying and get a newer heli. They have come sooooooo far!

[@jeffmayo8848]

Hell of a video Jeff! You know I don’t use Vbar but for those people that do, that was a great hands on video to get them going. Well done!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you Jeff! I greatly that! This video is definitely for the Vbar guys, but I’m glad you enjoyed it.

[@shanesherer7628]

Great video. Thanks. Just subscribed. I think a lot of us would like some info on PID when you put it together. Also as someone else mentioned, having the “par lock” or parameter lock is a useful feature

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you for subscribing! I appreciate that! Once I feel more comfortable, I will make a video on the P ID. I personally don’t like making videos that I don’t know 110% of what I am talking about. Lol. Yes, Par lock is a very useful tool.

[@ramialkishawi3530]

Great video as usual .I have been searching for the advanced features of v-bar and you made it. thank you cant wait for PID video👍👍

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you for watching! I’m glad this video was helpful. There will be many more videos to come in this series in different advanced options of the radio.

[@justinhilker9752]

Man that’s amazing ! Love this feature !!! Thanks for showing how to use it . Will make tuning so much easier

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

It’s one of my favorite features with this system. It is so nice to be able to tune while you fly.

[@lucasuk86]

Video I have been waiting for a long time. Thank you so much!!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you for watching!. I’m glad you enjoyed this video.

[@Benny-br7um]

Perfekt jeff. Now Im gonna use this video at the field today and tune my new raw 580. Thank You

[@harb420]

Jeff thank you for the video it really helped in getting my heli setup!!!

[@roberthardy7868]

Outstanding! Would love to see the PID's when you figure that one out. I am still figuring out the basics but I think I have a handle on that one. Thank you for this video as I have been looking forward to it. 👍

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Response I’m glad you enjoyed this video. I wanted to make two separate videos on the subject because what I covered in this video is perfect for 95% of the helicopter guys out there. Getting into the PID‘s is more for the advanced hard-core guys that want every little inch of perfection out of the model.

[@aegolder]

Great video

[@chrisjackson277]

Yessssss the video we’ve all been waiting for 😎👍

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you for watching! I hope the video was helpful

[@cjcycles]

Awesome Video. Thanks for sharing this.

[@chrondro]

Now you need to make one for the ikon😉🙏

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I am! Working on it now.

[@billann8834]

Great video, straight and to the point!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! I greatly appreciate that.

[@antoniofrance8]

The best helico ans vbar radio control

[@ThomasColeman]

Perfect idea thank you very much !! I would be interested to see a video about speed of tail / gain - training and 3D for example better to have a slower tail to learn then speed up as get comfortable

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. So as far as the gain goes, you’re going to have the same gain settings no matter how you fly. Unless it’s speed flying. But! The rotation rate or speed of the tail is going to be a complete user preference. I personally prefer very fast movements all the way around so I have a lot for a little bit be on my controls. But as a beginner, it is definitely better to have a slower speed and then work your way up as you learn.

[@ThomasColeman]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 do you not find you kick out the tail sometimes if too sensative? I'm finding at the moment even if i put expo upto like 100% on the bench and wiggle sticks it doesnt show any effect i'm wondering if that only comes into play in the air, when i do the same with my DX18 its slow around center then fast S curve. Didnt know if VBAR was different.

[@ThomasColeman]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 im finding when adding expo on vbar and vbar evo it doesnt really add and im not sure what setting is overriding this. For example on bank 1 if i set 100% expo and bank 2+3 as 30 and switch bentween the banks on the bench moving the sticks it doesnt show any sign of slow around center Stick. Yet if i do this on my spktrum its very noticeable and works as expected - what could i be doing wrong?!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@ThomasColeman so expo is a funny thing and all radios act different with it. Some radios like spektrum need a positive value and some radios like Futaba need a negative value. I’ve never tired it on Vbar. But play with style and turn it down as it will slow the over all feel of the model down.

[@sgbryant1962]

I don’t see me getting a VBar. I just started using Spektrum last year. A very informative video though.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! I greatly appreciate it. Spektrum is great and I still love my IX14!

[@bobmixon6021]

I’m super unimpressed with heli setup on both my Specktrum DX18 and Futaba 18SZ. Both used for fixed wing. I’m super impressed with VBar. Might be in my future.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

The RAW 580 is still hands down my favorite heli ever made. It’s just a incredible machine. You will like Vbar, it’s a great system!

[@nfavor]

You can add parameter lock to a switch but long term should disable them as Jeff suggested.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

That’s great to know, I didn’t even know about adding the perimeter lock to the switch.

[@adam46and21]

Great video. I am just learning how to tune via PID and this helps a lot. Could you please explain the relationship between the terminology of what VBAR uses to proportional, integral, and derivative.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! I hope it was helpful. So I’m not 100% sure on the relationship between PID. I do know what each value does but it is completely different rates compared to iKon which is what I’m used to. As I Learn More about the PID I’ll make a full video on it.

[@JJ-hh4pv]

No matter what I activate, I don't get to see the relative settings when I turn pot 1 of the mainrotor gain. The numbers 20 and 120 do appear, but not the current set value. What am I doing wrong.

[@viktorvasak5669]

Great,but can you make such a setting for spectrum spirit as well? Thank.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you for watching! Do you mean make a video or can you do the same thing with putting your gains two switches?

[@Lance57H]

So I don't have the modify configuration menu and I don't know why. I ordered my unit with both the rescue and the pro software. It gives me menus for the rescue but I don't have the modify configuration menu.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Hmmm! That’s strange, have you updated? I wonder why it’s not there?

[@jctgf]

Great.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you!

[@claytonwyne6540]

Just curious if you could show your log files on the raw 580 and the neo. It drives me crazy that my entire flight is an extreme vibration. I had the same issues with my raw 700. They both fly great but always show extreme vibrations. My logo 700 never had nothing more than a raised vibration. It scares me to try out rescue for fear of a issue with the extreme vibrations. By the way, those liperiair 5000 80c are awesome, the bursts are out of this world.

[@user-to7hm6gw7z]

My trex 500x has drift to the left, and intense tail walk when i give full positive pitch. I have tried increasing the colc recompense. It is not improving , any suggestions

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

So the drift is normally from the swash plate not being level. I would double check that. Tail wag can be a few different things. What heli? What’s the tail setup like? What servo? What gain?

[@user-to7hm6gw7z]

Heli is ALIGN tre. 500x. Servos are align (super combo). Tail setup same from your video, gain 60

[@StephenElsworth]

If you've done the same thing for the ikon, I haven't seen it. I'd really like to see the ikon done like this please.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I have not done a video yet, but! I’m working on it now!

[@StephenElsworth]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 look forward to seeing it. Cheers

[@nobodyq6589]

great👍

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you!

[@nobodyq6589]

Great Blades! Do you use shims for it? I have the same and I think i don't need them

[@johno9507]

And I still fly my helicopters with a 24 yr old JR PCM 10X...aircraft version no less.😂🇦🇺