MIKE MENTZER: TRICEPS TRAINING

[@NorthernIrelandConflictVideos]

I never listen to any PTs advice except for Mike Mentzer.

[@bradfordmcdermott2063]

Most trainers in gym are nasm functional trainers or sport athletic trainers. Yes follow mike only

[@pfrazeto]

One of the best videos of this great channel

[@Norsktzer]

Thanks John.

[@nonvoilent9130]

Mike Menzter was always better than Arnold

[@carterboyfresh5989]

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[@muazhasan9227]

True

[@filipkrchnavy]

True

[@NEUTRALDROP]

Take it easy...1980 yes but 1975 Arnold no way and yes Mike was awesome

[@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE]

The video was specifically about the 1980 and 1981 Olympias. Arnold was arguably at his best in 1974, when he competed at a huge 232 pounds. He was never able to regain that size again for some reason; in 1975 he weighed 225 and in 1980 he weighed somewhere between 217 and 220. Interestingly, Franco Columbu told journalist Rick Wayne that he believed the 1975 Olympia (where he lost the overall title to Arnold by 1 point) was fixed for Arnold to win, as Arnold was paid by some estimates $50,000 to come out of retirement by the producers of the pumping iron documentary. His win resulted in a huge amount of publicity for the IFBB and, as Arnold was all over Joe Weider’s ads at the time, his victory also made Joe a lot of money.

[@experience-k7q]

Again. Very informative. Thanks.

[@1manforequality]

In my opinion, Mentzer would be included in my list of the ten best bodybuilders in the past half century.

[@nigel7880]

This puts the consolidation routine in a new light! Wow!

[@nigel7880]

The Gospel of Michael. 💪

[@AndreLeitedaSilvaGaldino]

Another great one! I have seen better results by doing less" direct work"(isolations exercises) for the muscle of the arm (Biceps, triceps and forarms) or performing those "isolations exercises" (in this case for the tricpes) less often. Focusing on the compound Pressing exercises, like the Chest Press, Shoulder Press and sometimes Dips, has brought me better results!

[@boxingmaster2663]

weight lifting is awesome because ive experienced the opposite to some degree, its cool that you find out what works for you. very scientific

[@peterlampropoulos3505]

The real Herculean body

[@thernero2829]

Fantastic❤

[@thomasjnemeth]

Hi John! I love seeing and hearing all the content on this channel. I was wondering if we will ever see a Mike Mentzer training app?

[@m.j.5681]

For a video about triceps ironically my key takeaway is that I need to train my legs harder!

[@yezzzsir]

The "Indirect effect" is a very powerful concept. Arthur Jones (who I'm guessing Mike got this concept from) used a great illustration for this saying it is like throwing a stone into a pond and watching the ripples spread out. If you throw a small pebble (training small muscles like bis & tris) you get a small ripple which does not travel far but has a small if not very visible effect on all muscles the wave passes. If you throw a brick (training legs) you get a huge tsunami which travels far further and has a greater effect on all muscles that waves passes. Like yourself I then changed my priority to my legs & back, let the limbs look after themselves. Another point Arthur mentioned in the same article was that it was of note that if a person was on a very strict program of just squats (I'm guessing the way he would train them) they may start with an arm size of 13" to begin with but after several months would not be surprising to find them with arms around 15" without even doing direct arm training just from the Indirect effect alone. That would be interesting to test out.

[@vuqarbabayev6378]

Thanx Jhon Little

[@sinahafezi425]

Hi John, can you please do a video on failure, and what Mike Menzter means "to failure" does he mean positive failure? and when to use the extra intensity techniques such as forced reps, static hold etc.

[@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE]

When Mike speaks of training to failure, he is generally referring to positive failure, as you see Markus Reinhardt demonstrate in the HIT video elsewhere on this channel. If one goes to failure and continues beyond that with forced reps and negatives, that is called total failure, as opposed to positive failure.

[@sinahafezi425]

@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Thank you! subscribed

[@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE]

@@sinahafezi425 Many thanks!

[@0_Hama_0]

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[@Lion_-fu9in]

So is there any program for mike that included training legs and arms together?

[@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE]

He did so in the consolidated program.

[@Lion_-fu9in]

@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE thank you john!

[@mikelevenson7271]

This vid does justice to mikes triceps..its hard to describe how big they were.. he mentioned once that he felt they were the best in the world.. i certainly believed him..

[@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE]

Agreed, Mike.

[@lta_qkarda]

​@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Do you think the order of the exercises is important for a better anabolic response? That is, those with the greatest muscle mass first in the routine?

[@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE]

Mike recommended training the largest muscle groups first (when more energy is readily available as they require the most energy).

[@Nonstop_-bd6lh]

Hi John, amazing vid as usual. But could you give me some more insight into rets periods, as I see that with new info that 3-5 minutes is optimum for strength and 30-90 for hypertrophy, what do you think?

[@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE]

@Nonstop_-bd6lh Strength and size are co-related; what makes you stronger, in other words, will also make you bigger, in as much as your genetics permit. Unless you’re speaking about skill training, which is required to achieve proficiency in a specific lift such as a bench press, as you grow strong stronger, you will eventually get bigger.

[@Nonstop_-bd6lh]

@ Thankyou 😁

[@mageguy3]

Rope is so much harder for me to produce force with my small hands and wrists. I love the v bar.

[@philjackett-simpson5149]

He always had great triceps

[@mickdimi1456]

The long head attachment near the elbow is genetically determined, you can't lengthen or pull it down no matter what you do!

[@ryanleclaire3948]

Why would you go isolation ---> compound? This I never fully understood, as isolation allows you to go beyond failure after a compound movement and get more work out of a set. Also, yes, straight bar pushdowns are the king! But you never see anyone doing them these days, only rope.

[@AncientXCivilizations]

Higher intensity can be applied to compound movement. So doing isolation first makes sense since you can squeeze every little bit of out of the target muscle in compound.

[@Tommy_007]

A question about the "indirect effect": Is it necessary to do (for example) leg training on the SAME day as (for example) the arms in order for the arms to benefit from leg training? (As mentioned in the video, the elevated testosterone level was only seen during the training of the large (leg) muscles, so maybe this effect has to be "used" not long after.)

[@philosophysique5419]

No. Give them their own day.

[@muazhasan9227]

I wanted to ask a question, why did mike mentzer trained his legs twice in span of 16 days and also trained biceps twice, although later mike mentzer said he should have been more Infrequent

[@Space_interesting73]

Hey john, I'm doing Mike's training for a while but i was a bit skeptical about testosterone, will it decline if i train that infrequent?

[@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE]

Not at all. You’ll be fine.

[@rifleman7313]

What would the optimal tricep exercise?

[@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE]

The two exercises that Mike indicated in the video.

[@drewgrows7765]

lol​@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE

[@1manforequality]

@@rifleman7313 parallel bar dips adding additional weight

[@sanatani_Rishu25]

sir i am 32 years old can i still go to the gym and build muscle ? If yes then which program should I follow. Please reply.

[@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE]

32 is young. Use Mike’s ideal routine to start with. There are several videos outlining the program elsewhere on this channel.

[@sanatani_Rishu25]

@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE thanku so much sir😊

[@Jayed-c6j]

Alternative for triceps press down

[@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE]

Mike answers this at 8:01 in the video.

[@Jayed-c6j]

Thanks john​@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE

[@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE]

No worries!

[@jacobm92]

Mike recommended lying french presses in this routine but incline skull crushers and overhead extensions with free weights are just as good, arguably better than lying french presses

[@1manforequality]

I used deep dips with weight on parallel bars, 10-12 reps Ever looked at the triceps and overall chest, shoulder and tricep development of a gymnast? Reeves did dips,, chins with weight, alternating hands away and hands forward, for basic upper body development. Guys don't do dips and pull-ups because they are too damn hard.

[@Omaklemm]

👍👍👍💯🇪🇪

[@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513]

My triceps really stand out and are more noticable than biceps. I hardly do any training

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[@tommamic4332]

Definitely the best body in bodybuilding history plus brain. The only thing that wasn't good he carried so much bitterness for Arnold the clown...

[@markywaddy6504]

The acute release of anabolic hormones (like testosterone, growth hormone, and insulin-like growth factor-1) during lifting does not have a significant effect on overall muscle Hypertrophy. So, no working legs with compound movements will not make your arms bigger.

[@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE]

The scientific opinion on this seems to change periodically. You may be correct, but obviously something about training legs and arms together resulted in better results than in training arms alone.

[@1manforequality]

My experience has been squats with 315 until failure Only 1 set. trying to increase reps twice a week. I become stronger, able to increase the weight, used to train other body parts.The key is not overtraining.

[@tonyvee5799]

Torso and limbs Is 🤴 upper and lower on steroids. DY did this workout in the early 80s

[@ClassicPhysique27]

Full body is. Then torso and limbs 🫡🫡