Mike Tyson vs Ip Man: who would win in a fight?

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Ramsey Dewey

Ramsey Dewey

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@mikeruck2888
@mikeruck2888 6 жыл бұрын
"..WITH the rules he chewed a mans ear off! Imagine whatd he do if you took them away.." 😂🤣😆
@NapoleonGelignite
@NapoleonGelignite 5 жыл бұрын
mikeruck2888 - he bit Holyfield because he kept head butting him. Watch the footage. You can even see Mike look at the ref waiting for him to say something. Then he loses it and bites him. He’s apologised to him now anyway.
@MrOnetedify
@MrOnetedify 5 жыл бұрын
@@NapoleonGelignite pretty much he kept headbutting him, i have no idea what the ref were smoking tbh.
@4G12
@4G12 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrOnetedify It's called a rigged game.
@bigbaderek1978
@bigbaderek1978 5 жыл бұрын
no need..ask mitch green
@stoppernz229
@stoppernz229 5 жыл бұрын
@@NapoleonGelignite kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWTCgmx9adGFj8k
@harleyzeth
@harleyzeth 5 жыл бұрын
Tyson said in a street fight he would drop a microwave on top of someone from a window lmao
@CaesarCassius
@CaesarCassius 4 жыл бұрын
That's so he could then eat their children
@troytaylor5746
@troytaylor5746 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaga
@mehikaner9554
@mehikaner9554 4 жыл бұрын
ey, whatever wins the fight^^
@TheRamsberg
@TheRamsberg 4 жыл бұрын
That's fascinating, because Jack Dempsey, who Tyson studied in depth, used an illustration in his book, of a baby falling from a window and knocking a man out by landing on his head, to point out the importance of potential inertial energy in putting force into a punch.
@Hpencer
@Hpencer 4 жыл бұрын
Caesar Vespasian no. It’s so he can bite a piece off their ear, put it in the microwave and then eat it all nice and warmed up.
@mccalltrader
@mccalltrader 5 жыл бұрын
If its a boxing match with boxing rules..Tyson all day However, In a street fight with no holds barred...Tyson wins all day The weight difference alone makes this a no contest
@johnboforsyth5970
@johnboforsyth5970 5 жыл бұрын
there would be a murder no matter what.
@echelon2k8
@echelon2k8 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but weight difference alone isn't the be-all and end-all in fighting - especially in street fighting.
@johnboforsyth5970
@johnboforsyth5970 5 жыл бұрын
@@echelon2k8 not what mcgall was saying buddy.
@echelon2k8
@echelon2k8 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnboforsyth5970 Oh, yeah? What part of "The weight difference alone makes this a no contest" didn't I understand?
@craig291086
@craig291086 5 жыл бұрын
@@echelon2k8 Weight difference makes a massive difference especially in a street fight. The reason it often doesn't, is because the heavier guy is untrained. A trained heavy guy vs a trained guy who is 50, 60lbs lighter and the lighter guy would find himself getting completely destroyed. Ip man looks like he is at least 100lbs lighter than Tyson. Tyson would murder him plain and simple. You'll find out once you spare with someone who is significantly bigger than yourself. Especially if you get grabbed or hit. It's harder to shake them off and their hits have a lot more weight to them.
@cyrusmartin3448
@cyrusmartin3448 5 жыл бұрын
Martial arts is not magic, but this man's voice sure is.
@uggguuuuu
@uggguuuuu 4 жыл бұрын
He sounds like Adam West (TV Batman)
@aussiecath
@aussiecath 4 жыл бұрын
Funny as I watched it I was thinking that as his voice matures he will end up with one of those God like Charlton Heston voices.
@kingturtle1000
@kingturtle1000 4 жыл бұрын
😂 really hope it is genuine, sounds so fake and overly dramatic and his gestures make me laugh, looks like Mr Smith goes to review kung Fu movies.
@RagnarOdinson
@RagnarOdinson 4 жыл бұрын
Cyrus Martin 😂😂, I'm Dying!! Lol 👍!! 🍻🍻!
@kilppa
@kilppa 4 жыл бұрын
@Ryougi Shiki Did you even listen to him? The guy standing up can kick the legs and body of guy who is on the ground. Leg stomping is allowed, but he never said it was allowed while anybody is on the ground.
@HEMPerformance
@HEMPerformance 5 жыл бұрын
As a humble man as Ip was.... I'm pretty sure even he would tell you the best way to win a fight with Iron Mike is to run away as fast as you can.
@kewintaylor7056
@kewintaylor7056 4 жыл бұрын
Nope....ip said....true man never run from a fight!..... ... ... ... ... .give me a gun!....😝
@abhabh6896
@abhabh6896 4 жыл бұрын
Its ok to say he would lose, but I wouldnt compare him to modern day guys and say he doesnt have combat experience, especially since he was the precursor to bruce Lee. Before Bruce Lee it was Ip Man who worked on making wing chun more practical.
@ルリ-ruri
@ルリ-ruri 4 жыл бұрын
@@abhabh6896 in the end wing chun still doesnt work
@abhabh6896
@abhabh6896 4 жыл бұрын
@@ルリ-ruri I still prefer it over gay sex that is called MMA. 99% of the time its just two dudes being close and panting. Also we are talking abouit Ip Man here. Not even saying that, there are still MMA players who rely on wing Chun at some places and win easily. Dont tell me Ip man lived all of his life without real life fighting. Guy had plenty fights in his life. they might not be as spectacular as in the movies but you can say he is someone that only hit wooden pole all of his life. If Ip man is an average wing shun user then I dare say Mike Tyson is average boxer.
@abhabh6896
@abhabh6896 4 жыл бұрын
@@ルリ-ruri Oh, and one more thing, those MMA WWE wrestle take down methods are worthless in a street fight.
@THEFRISKIESTDINGO
@THEFRISKIESTDINGO 5 жыл бұрын
Before I hear any answers my guess is: Both in their prime: Tyson puts him in the hospital. Mike in his prime, Ip is 50: Tyson puts him in the grave. Mike now and Ip in his prime: Tyson puts him down and then runs around punching mailmen and screaming about birds.
@TremereTT
@TremereTT 5 жыл бұрын
was that mean or funny?
@bladestormviking
@bladestormviking 5 жыл бұрын
@@TremereTT Honest.
@brionmartin5693
@brionmartin5693 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@xinyiquan666
@xinyiquan666 5 жыл бұрын
my ass, tyson can beat ip man they both young, but if they are both 50s, ip can kill typson in 2 seconds,dumbass
@l.blanton3019
@l.blanton3019 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@PochocloEn3D
@PochocloEn3D 6 жыл бұрын
I love how this man tells the truth, no mystic bullshit in any of his videos. Just hard cold facts.
@dyowzhars9400
@dyowzhars9400 6 жыл бұрын
PochocloEn3D If you don't realize why your comment got it all wrong, you have the analysis of an infant.
@andriygalyuk5348
@andriygalyuk5348 6 жыл бұрын
Dyow Zhars hahaha i love how you still think ip man can beat mike tyson, bitches like you need to grow up and realize professional boxers like mike tyson can punch you once and your in a coma.
@solaryon8711
@solaryon8711 6 жыл бұрын
The wonderful thing about it is that this feels like a true martial ''art''... if you consider art form to be the perfection of any particular skill to what we consider to be it's highest level. Regardless of how you define the highest level, there will be a process of evaluation to consider what is the most effective way to reach that defined pinnacle of skill. These videos represent a critical analysis of what is truly useful to a fighter and what is not. They represent countless hours spent both analysing but also putting the analysis to the test with practical application. That is something many modern-martial arts (the sports, NOT the martial-artists themselves) do not do. The sports do not constantly self-evaluate for the purpose of betterment or advancement towards a skill pinnacle. And on top of that, these videos represent the will of Mr. Dewey to EFFECTIVELY communicate his process of analysis to the martial arts world in a way that all listeners can understand, not only for some personal gain (both income-wise and also for his own self-fulfilment) but also for the overall betterment of the martial arts world. It is as much an academic process of evaluation and analysis as it is an art form, or mission to reach a skill pinnacle.
@ellaculacionancianotragast3179
@ellaculacionancianotragast3179 6 жыл бұрын
You loved him 🙄 🤔😂😙 GAYYYYYY🤣
@Falconbridge9
@Falconbridge9 6 жыл бұрын
Ramsey dont know enough facts about enough fighting styles, enough principles and enough examples of smaller/weaker fighters being way lot superior than their bigger opponents so you could say there is nothing but "truth" in his self-centered "all knowing" mind about "syllabus of the Wing chun mysterious movement" ... he is still fully convinced in the external styles (bigger opponents) beating everything which is smaller or softer and if the conditions of his narrow outlook of the world is met; his rhetoric dances around his knowledge of competition and his "past fame" (which was some few fights under octagon rules).. He obviously never touched hands with any serious master of internal styles. there are few clips in which I agree with him but most of it is just over-acting with his "base voice" and answering dumb questions asked by rookies from all over the web with to long and to shallow insight into other side of the coin which he never saw (internal styles).
@gallegal1971
@gallegal1971 4 жыл бұрын
The thought of getting punched by Mike Tyson is terrifying. Not only would you feel the punch down to your core, but your ancestors, and descendents would feel the prince as well.
@Entropy3ko
@Entropy3ko 2 жыл бұрын
If Tyson punched IP Man, Mao in hell would shit his pants
@fanc096
@fanc096 Жыл бұрын
Probably wouldn't be any descendants to feel any pain
@senna1994
@senna1994 5 жыл бұрын
You have to understand where Mike Tyson came from. He was in jail at 11 years old. The guards thought he was closer to 20. He was 5’8 and around 200 pounds. At 11 years old. He had no fear and would do what it took to survive. One of my favourite quotes by Mike is he broke into someone’s place, they were home and fired a gun at him. When the bullet missed was the greatest feeling ever. This was before he was a teenager. After that, he spent 15 years learning how to fight and destroy people. He is one of my favourite athletes but there is nothing normal about Mike Tyson.
@piercethroughheart5700
@piercethroughheart5700 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yea.. Ip man can only win in movies
@TheBigMclargehuge
@TheBigMclargehuge 4 жыл бұрын
that's not how the gun story goes at all.
@Miscelanou
@Miscelanou 4 жыл бұрын
IT WOODNT WERK IN THA STRETS THO (Edit: made it obvious I'm joking because a lot of people actually seem to think that's the case for athletes in combat sports)
@jenifer1382
@jenifer1382 4 жыл бұрын
Bruce Lee wanted to learn kung fu because he wanted to beat bullies in school
@TheGuideOfDota
@TheGuideOfDota 4 жыл бұрын
With a comment like this I expect your nickname to be followed by 2010 or perhaps 2009, not 1994. Time to grow up bud. Santa isn't real btw
@TearsoftheAeon
@TearsoftheAeon 5 жыл бұрын
Tyson was a boss in a video game of the 80s... that should tell you everything.
@cdubbart
@cdubbart 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, seasoned Balrog/M.Bison players in Street Fighter are unstoppable... and there is a reason for that, lol. There is a reason a boxer was one of the most powerful characters in that video game about different martial artists and there is a reason that character was based off of Mike Tyson, lol.
@jayluis189
@jayluis189 5 жыл бұрын
Basing real fighting off a video game... So genius..
@powderedtoastman9711
@powderedtoastman9711 4 жыл бұрын
Technically 2. Imagine creating characters that can set fire to shit with their hands and then going "Yeah, I dunno. I think Tyson would be a equal match to a demon who sold his soul to be god-tier." Says a lot about what people thought of him in his prime.
@baeshin
@baeshin 4 жыл бұрын
The 80's was a crazy time though..
@powderedtoastman9711
@powderedtoastman9711 4 жыл бұрын
@@baeshin He was really that magical to us all.
@PeterJavi
@PeterJavi 5 жыл бұрын
Scenarios in which Ip Man would win this fight: - Ip Man has a gun and lands a fatal hit, when Tyson is not within reach. Scenarios in which Tyson wins the fight: - Any scenario in which guns are not a factor.
@stefanlazarevic3520
@stefanlazarevic3520 5 жыл бұрын
I mean I don't know I think he would have a decent chance with flamethrower.
@Zulanderr
@Zulanderr 5 жыл бұрын
The bullet would be too afraid to head towards mike
@Ic3g3org3
@Ic3g3org3 5 жыл бұрын
Its Iron Mike you talking about. IRON !!!
@HardHardMaster
@HardHardMaster 5 жыл бұрын
PJ Vis Iron Mike would rape a bazooka
@xblood1978
@xblood1978 5 жыл бұрын
The bullet would bounce off Iron Mike
@nniikk86
@nniikk86 4 жыл бұрын
Ramsey I love how you can answer these questions and keep a straight face, especially when mentioning the size comparisons LOL. It's unfortunate many people are disconnected from reality and eat up whatever they watch on TV or the fabricated stories they've been told. Big thumbs up from me for giving your time to these videos no matter how ridiculous the question might be.
@Architectofawesome
@Architectofawesome 6 жыл бұрын
"Everybody's got plans until they get hit in the face."
@HardHardMaster
@HardHardMaster 6 жыл бұрын
architectofcosmos as said Tyson. he is a lot smarter than some people here.
@rayxr
@rayxr 6 жыл бұрын
It's, "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."
@gbritto98
@gbritto98 6 жыл бұрын
My boxing coaches would always say something similar to this
@michaelhendricks5449
@michaelhendricks5449 5 жыл бұрын
General Patton of the United States Army said “A battle plan is only good until you make contact with the enemy”
@stevenortiz712
@stevenortiz712 5 жыл бұрын
"Everybody's got plans until Mike Tyson bites Someones Ear off.
@globeagentronburgundy9747
@globeagentronburgundy9747 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson would make Ip man into Rip man.
@gg3198
@gg3198 5 жыл бұрын
@@guitarttimman hahahahahahahaha
@NoelAKABigNolo
@NoelAKABigNolo 5 жыл бұрын
@@guitarttimman troll or delusional? My man said he would give Iron Mike Tyson a run for his money.
@noobtube4760
@noobtube4760 5 жыл бұрын
Why do people assume boxing is not a martial art? It is. It's an artform, designed for warfare. Hence. Martial art.
@Dogmeat229
@Dogmeat229 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you except for the part about boxing being 'designed for warfare.' No way. Boxing was designed for a ring....sure it can be applied for 'warfare' but it's a sport-fighting system- even if a dam effective one. Most (if not all) traditional systems are designed to be war-effective. That doesn't mean that traditional is trained that way in most systems today...but that's literally what those systems were (originally) designed for...warfare.
@whirlingidervish
@whirlingidervish 5 жыл бұрын
There is a reason that basically all MMA fighters have a boxing coach and not a wing chun coach. Boxing is an incredibly effective martial art even with it's obvious deficiencies. Along with wrestling, jiu jitsu, and perhaps muay thai and kickboxing it's the most important discipline to train for mixed combat sports. It wasn't invented for military use though. I think it would be better to learn wrestling and stabbing for military use but I'm sure knowing how to box wouldn't hurt. The footwork alone gives a trained practitioner an huge advantage over a layperson. I'm pretty sure it (boxing) was invented by the ancient Greeks as an Olympic sport, adopted by the Romans and eventually after close to 2000 years later found it's way to England, then from bare-nuckle prize fighting turned into the modern martial art we know today. Mike Tyson, any heavyweight champion from the past century, would eat Ip man alive, and being honest, Bruce Lee too.
@Dogmeat229
@Dogmeat229 5 жыл бұрын
@@whirlingidervish I think Mike Tyson- without any prior training to defend against kicks- would probably do pretty terrible against Lee in any fight where kicks were allowed. Here's some fighting evidence to back up this claim...Muhhammad Ali fought a pro-wrestler with some martial background (Antonio Inoki) in 1976 and did kinda terrible, even though Inoki could only kick Muhhammad's in the legs, and even then only when he was on the ground. (Most) boxers of the pre-MMA era had no idea how to defend against anything other than boxing strikes...if Tyson had time to train for this, it would be different, but to my knowledge, he had no experience at all defending against kicks or other martial techniques. If you put him against a competent kicker with no training or experience how to defend against kicks, he would probably not do that well...
@alartan111
@alartan111 5 жыл бұрын
It's not an art it's a science xd
@Tezcax
@Tezcax 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's designed for warfare, no. It was always a brutal sport for entertainment but punching is not very useful in war.
@Aythion
@Aythion 4 жыл бұрын
"Couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag" is the funniest insult I've heard in a long time 😂
@MrGenseric
@MrGenseric 6 жыл бұрын
...having the patience of answering this kind of question, like really explaining the A B C, is truly noble Mr Ramsey... (bow)
@david01879
@david01879 6 жыл бұрын
If you ever saw The Avengers movie when the Hulk picks up Loki and slams him around like a rag doll? That would be the same with Mike Tyson vs Ip Man.
@lukivah
@lukivah 6 жыл бұрын
That was funny.
@sanjuuyonsai
@sanjuuyonsai 6 жыл бұрын
Puny god.
@Slickshadow11
@Slickshadow11 6 жыл бұрын
I laugh every time I see that.
@HardHardMaster
@HardHardMaster 6 жыл бұрын
David Vik that's almost a perfect comparison. it would be perfect if instead of Hulk and Loki it would be Hulk and Ip Man, or a bag of sticks.
@4homemail
@4homemail 5 жыл бұрын
But Ip Man has a bunch of movies made kicking asses.
@dwightgaston6079
@dwightgaston6079 5 жыл бұрын
I watched a Karate vs. Boxing tournament in my hometown. The fights went like this: the karate guy would attack with kicks and fists and kicks and fists while the boxer hunkered down and endured what he was trained to endure. Then the karate guy would run out of breath and BOOM! one punch man. End of bout.
@bigbay1159
@bigbay1159 5 жыл бұрын
Legit tactic if you know your opponent can't beat your defense.
@ronwells8806
@ronwells8806 5 жыл бұрын
That is not a do or die fight, RULES make the fight!
@dwightgaston6079
@dwightgaston6079 5 жыл бұрын
@@ronwells8806 depends on the rules. Xu Xiaodong's mma buddy was challenged by a tai chi master. but the chinese government regulators said the rules must be that the mma guy could only fight the 'master' with one arm and one foot! (He still won handily)
@johngault7329
@johngault7329 5 жыл бұрын
I have seen that first hand. My Sensei warned against that happening. The reason is that most karate, or taekwondo, train to stop short of a full hit as a sign of control. Most contact sparring is kept to 50% at most. That is the kiss of death against anybody that actually spars with intent. We sparred full to the body and 75% to the head. Sometimes he would have one use only hands, or only feet. There were injuries, sure. But we learned actual range for effective strikes. I've since boxes a lot of boxers. I've given as good as I've given. My grandfather won the golden gloves in the army in 1942. He believed it was more important how a person trained and sparred, than what he actually trained in. Boxing is great, everything is for a reason, and property training is stressed.
@oppi2533
@oppi2533 5 жыл бұрын
@@guitarttimman Breaking bricks can be performed by a boxer as well (tree cutters in Sweedem do that for fun). Aside that, a moving fighter is not a stand still brick. Also, in order to break a brick you need concentration on a static object; how does that apply to the dynamics of a fight? If breaking static objects is a measure of the fighting skill, I can assure anyone, there is nobody with a stronger impact than a boxer.
@theeartofshred4076
@theeartofshred4076 4 жыл бұрын
Like when they compare Bruce lee vs Ali...... one truly put himself through the ringer and sheer brutality of competitive fighting and the other loved acting. I love Bruce lee, what marital artist doesn’t?.......he’s one of the reasons I became enthralled with fighting as a young kid ...........but we have to learn how to separate fantasy from reality. A wing chun practitioner came to the boxing gym and he absolutely didn’t know what the hell he was doing....... but he was humble enough to admit it and wanted to learn. He later became a golden gloves champion! 💯 true story, great friend of mine.
@MICTHAMESSENGER
@MICTHAMESSENGER 4 жыл бұрын
Bruce looked up to ali
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 3 жыл бұрын
@@MICTHAMESSENGER within reason.
@FaatehAhmed
@FaatehAhmed 3 жыл бұрын
@@joseh.749 that was when he was young and was practicing with yip man. Plus it was a school boxing match Idk if your talking about another boxing match - _ 😶 _ -
@FaatehAhmed
@FaatehAhmed 3 жыл бұрын
@@joseh.749 still Bruce lees pretty epic
@FaatehAhmed
@FaatehAhmed 3 жыл бұрын
@lucifer the Great evil beast morningstar kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKu9aXWqqaaHarc it was also mentioned in the Netflix series ( the legend of Bruce lee ) And ( dragon a Bruce lee story )
@Hon_cb1kr
@Hon_cb1kr 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson in his prime was super human. He has beaten men bigger and heavier than him. He often got into the ring as the smaller man and won. His speed, power and conditioning was top notch.
@TheRedRuin
@TheRedRuin 6 жыл бұрын
There's a show where a blind folded Mike threw three darts at the board and scored 2 bullseyes kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4G0mqRur8adeac Amazing accurancy. Wish he had stayed at 218lbs speed and accurancy were always his allies over bigger men he had plenty of power at that weight.
@SwordWieldingDuck
@SwordWieldingDuck 6 жыл бұрын
You know, with his mass it really doesn't matter much if someone is slightly heavier than him. Now if you weight 60 kg and your opponent is 80 or 100, this makes a huge difference.
@jlogan2228
@jlogan2228 6 жыл бұрын
Tyson had the perfect blend of size power and LIGHTNING speed. He could knock out the bigger dudes bc he was so strong but also so fast and technically spot on. Being bigger has a point of diminishing returns in that you hit harder but you're slower and easier to dodge
@chrisdavies3659
@chrisdavies3659 6 жыл бұрын
Just a pity he only fought no hopers, and hand picked losers, they even brought in long retired famous boxers, boxers to try and give him some credit.
@antlerr
@antlerr 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Davies You got it tyson is the worste example of a boxer there is.
@Daz5Daz
@Daz5Daz 5 жыл бұрын
"everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth". Mike Tyson.
@blitheixgaming1289
@blitheixgaming1289 4 жыл бұрын
I love that quote
@SuperTalleyho
@SuperTalleyho 4 жыл бұрын
That's "punched in the fathe"
@danabney4433
@danabney4433 4 жыл бұрын
Looking for this comment so I didn’t have to make it. 😎
@y3llowpersuasionz18
@y3llowpersuasionz18 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperTalleyho bruuuuthe
@tonyharrisson6823
@tonyharrisson6823 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperTalleyho 😂😂😂😂
@Dies1r4e
@Dies1r4e 6 жыл бұрын
I am a very large, very tall athletic guy, played college football, run a two mile in 13 minutes and change, and I remember starting to learn martial arts, boxing, kickboxing during college, it fascinated me. I had muddled in Karate, judo and wrestling in high school but nothing with good physical sparing. Something I learned rather fast was that despite being new to the forms, and inexperienced in sparing I was winning over and over again to the point I was having to spar with the head instructor of most of the places I was training at, or box with the guys that were training to do it for a living instead of the learners class. It was because I had stamina, size, power and reach on the people I was fighting. Technique is important but size, power, aggression and most importantly stamina are foundational blocks of winning a fight. Mike Tyson was a monstrous machine in his prime, he was fast, he could go for days, and he hit like a piston. I would not want to fight him in a back ally with no rules at my size, let alone as someone with 5-8 inch or more of a reach disadvantage, with 150 less pounds of muscle. All the technical knowledge in the world would be hard pressed to overcome such a physical disadvantage...if Tyson was a brutish thug throwing wide slow punches without the stellar boxing footwork I would say there was a good chance, but given that boxing teaches footwork, speed and positioning and Tyson was a true master at it I have to agree.
@testodude
@testodude 6 жыл бұрын
These are good points. One thing to add is that Mike Tyson (under Cus D'Amato and Kevin Rooney) also had phenomenal defense and timing. His head movement and ability to make world class boxers miss made him unbeatable. He'd bait guys into position for his uppercut and left hook, and it was Good night, Irene. If I ever want to watch an old Tyson fight, I watch through his matchup with Michael Spinks, so before the mess with Robin Givens and the firing of Rooney. It was downhill after that IMO.
@markharrison6498
@markharrison6498 5 жыл бұрын
Doing a 2 mile run an over 13 minutes is horribly slow. You wouldn't even pass the Australian army basic fitness at that pace. I'd say most people who run regularly would be able to run that in less than 9 minutes. Having said that you're probably a really heavy dude. The rest of the post was very interesting. Sorry i was thrown by the one relatively insignificant thing about yourself
@dp1569
@dp1569 5 жыл бұрын
​@@markharrison6498 6.5 minute mile is pretty good for one mile, let alone two. A 4.5 minute mile for two is like superhuman... ?
@markharrison6498
@markharrison6498 5 жыл бұрын
@@dp1569 maybe i was a bit harsh with the 9 minutes. That's what i used to run when i was really fit. I was also pretty muscular at the time at 115kg and 195 cm tall not really a runners build. There were quite a few people in my unit who were faster than me but 11 minutes might be more realistic for most people
@markharrison6498
@markharrison6498 5 жыл бұрын
@@dp1569 i still think 6.5 minute miles is pretty slow though. My 60 yo uncle runs a full marathon at a faster pace than that. It doesn't matter anyway. Sorry to be a jerk
@dimitardonev4507
@dimitardonev4507 4 жыл бұрын
Question: who would've won, Mike Tyson or.. Answer: Mike Tyson
@obliviouz
@obliviouz 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. I'd take Tyson in his prime over basically anyone. Real or fictional.
@baldmansopinion2007
@baldmansopinion2007 3 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson vs Francis Nganou?
@calthekonqueror312
@calthekonqueror312 3 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson VS a grizzly bear
@ehs1452
@ehs1452 3 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson vs the entire SAS?
@SINdaBlock411
@SINdaBlock411 4 ай бұрын
Brock Lesnar has entered the chat
@mynameismynameis666
@mynameismynameis666 6 жыл бұрын
i guess the celebrity status of ip man is derived from the chinese love of pathos. Everytime it is retold, a little extra pathos is added. in 1000 years from now, ip man invented electricity, defeated godzilla and taught mike tyson not only to box, but to cha cha cha
@jamessouza7065
@jamessouza7065 6 жыл бұрын
Ip man chopped down the cherry tree not George Washington? Washington just took credit for it because he used to buy egg-rolls from ip man
@healthywiseandfit
@healthywiseandfit 6 жыл бұрын
The George Washington cherry tree story isn’t actually a true story.
@jamessouza7065
@jamessouza7065 6 жыл бұрын
@@healthywiseandfit EXACTLY...
@bob66099
@bob66099 6 жыл бұрын
bhkbjj wooooooooooooshhhh
@yamiyomizuki
@yamiyomizuki 6 жыл бұрын
And americans don't do the same thing with period dramas?
@lancehobbs8012
@lancehobbs8012 6 жыл бұрын
very diplomatic and respectful,and I can respect that. My short answer is "the world class professional fighter who is also 3 times the size of the little guy"
@dark3rthanshadows
@dark3rthanshadows 6 жыл бұрын
yeah but when it's wing chu people belive in magic and ki etc etc
@NapoleonGelignite
@NapoleonGelignite 5 жыл бұрын
Dr Thuganomics - that’s no necessarily true. Wong Shun Leung used to debunk lots of the ‘chi’ tricks and publicly explain how they worked. Lots of WC people and lots of other styles also believe in either the magical powers of their art, or the magical assurances of their tutors that attacks will start and follow a set number of routines.
@Damnationization
@Damnationization 5 жыл бұрын
Tyson "now" could defeat IP man in his prime.
@followstonzz1ontwitter497
@followstonzz1ontwitter497 5 жыл бұрын
Damnationization no
@corym8374
@corym8374 5 жыл бұрын
@@followstonzz1ontwitter497 idk man, I'd take that bet
@renangeek47
@renangeek47 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@DeadliftDarrell
@DeadliftDarrell 5 жыл бұрын
Fighting Mike Tyson even now would be like trying to defeat one of the X-Men.
@ophidianblack7073
@ophidianblack7073 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh he could still send pretty much anyone to the morgue with a punch
@rogrig
@rogrig 5 жыл бұрын
9 times out of 10, the huge guy will beat the little guy. That's why weitght is necessary in fighting sports.
@jambononi
@jambononi 4 жыл бұрын
A skinny guy who's short literally can't get enough power behind their hits. No matter how good a technique is, a heavier, long arm is going to create more impact. It's like trying to cook chicken at 50 degrees centigrade for 4 times the length of cooking at 200C. It still won't cook. Mike Tyson can take full punches for sustained periods of time for years. He's not going to be bothered by IP Man. It's just the laws of physics. But yeah, there's this old concept about how even the greatest sword fighters could trip over a stone and fall over, thus getting stabbed on their backs. So Mike Tyson could fall over but it would never be the skill of the smaller guy. It would usually be a mistake or lack of focus from the bigger guy.
@Atlas-ef4nu
@Atlas-ef4nu 4 жыл бұрын
James Travis Mike was shorter than most of the heavyweights so height doesn’t matter that much (but it does a little) but weight definitely does matter
@thosebeyondgod
@thosebeyondgod 4 жыл бұрын
@@jambononi Weight is what matters. Height just gives you more reach but if you're shorter you tend to be faster.
@Kaledrone
@Kaledrone 4 жыл бұрын
@@Atlas-ef4nu He was still taller than most people, 5'10 isn't exactly short.
@Atlas-ef4nu
@Atlas-ef4nu 4 жыл бұрын
Kaledrone /\ I meant he was short in comparison to most heavyweights
@junfanlee2604
@junfanlee2604 5 жыл бұрын
I love Ip Man and Wing Chun but Tyson is not a brute he is a trained fighter. He has practiced for thousands of hours. There is no inherent advantage that Ip Man has of experience.
@raidthanfl
@raidthanfl 5 жыл бұрын
JunFan Lee back in high school my classmates thought i was nuts saying tyson destroys bruce lee.
@jth8770
@jth8770 5 жыл бұрын
Jomama you misread his comment. He stated that Ip man has no advantage in terms of experience.
@TheTwitchybird
@TheTwitchybird 5 жыл бұрын
@Jomama Ipman is built like a feather while using a style that heavily relies on dragging and throwing your opponent. Tell me that you think that could ever happen vs someone like Mike Tyson. Keep dreaming man
@patrickdezenzio4988
@patrickdezenzio4988 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the only way to win a fight is not fight.
@DuskyPanther13
@DuskyPanther13 5 жыл бұрын
@Jomama It doesn't matter what it's about really. A good ol' hook from Tyson will end the momentum in the guy's life.
@gcgrabodan
@gcgrabodan 6 жыл бұрын
I think it is important to say that in the first ufc, even groin strikes and kicks were legal. And that didnt help the traditional martial artists much either.
@jlogan2228
@jlogan2228 6 жыл бұрын
I think people over estimate the effectiveness of a groin strike and underestimate just how hard it actually is to get a solid one in the heat of a fight. It's one of those things like a liver shot where yea it'll drop you but you have to hit it just right and priperly
@heretyk_1337
@heretyk_1337 6 жыл бұрын
@@jlogan2228 People think about groin strikes as "one and only" in the arsenal. I train Krav Maga, and i have to tell, we train punches kicks, elbows, knees, boxing combos and so on as everyone else. Groin strikes, eye gouges, biting, headbutting and etc. are used in specyfic situations, when your hands are tied at proper level, or you just don`t have other option... They are tactical choices. You may use them, or you may not But as he said- user counts, not tool. Well that ain`t 100% true- decent spearman can kill master knifefighter pretty much most of the times, but on equal- so to speak, combat is never equal- terms user counts. I said it under many videos- master boxer will fuck up ANY other martial style, as long as he does not allow to be taken to the ground. We talk about people with one of the best sense of distance after all. Now what you want to include in your arsenal is up to you. I personally like to have so called illegal options, but i never looked down upon other styles, which is unfortunaetly fairly unique on the internet... As for stopping power of groin shot... Or eye gouge. One of the questions i get is "what if guy is stoned or drunk? Or just doesn`t feel pain because he has so much adrenaline in his blood?". Let`s assume he sees me as a better boxer, so he wraps his hand around me, to pick me up, and throw me on the ground- and he managed to trap my arms. My first response will not be groin shot. It`ll be to stabilaze my position, to lower it, so he wouldn`t be able to pick me up as easily. Now i can work- i will do back and forth movements with my shoulders, to "make space", maybe loosen his grip. Maybe i will push my forehead into his face, to redirect vector of his force, by bending his neck back a bit, and get his sight out of the fight? A groin shot in this situation, when he is wired out of his mind will not knock him down, but it is quite probable, that he will flinch, his hips will move back, on instincs, when he`ll feel my hand groping or hitting around his nether regions- nobody wants to be grabbed, squeezed and the go through "twist and rip" motion on his dick and balls, so maybe he`ll let go on his own? Maybe he`ll loosen his grip and i will be able to free myself? or i`ll reverse situation- he is off balance, so i`ll grab him, lift him, and throw him on the ground? Proper Krav Maga- and other, properly taught self defense systems- is not about groin shots. it is about hitting to deal as much damage as you can. I just hink some people got so hung up on this "groin shot" shit, they really lost what it is all about. Just so we understand each other. Some self defense systems, as well as some teachers are just shitty, and learing them or from them is waste of time. Groin hot, just like every other strike, can finish fight, or may have no effect whatsoever. I got a glass bottle broken over my forehead once- still, i didn`t go down
@buzzkill808raven2
@buzzkill808raven2 5 жыл бұрын
@@jlogan2228 Yeah, I'm definitely not some tough guy but I've taken 2 or 3 hard groin shots in my life and though they stung, it wasnt nearly as bad as I thought it would be, and didn't stop me for more than a split second.
@AssMuncher995
@AssMuncher995 5 жыл бұрын
gcgrabodan yeah man those so called tma masters that think groin strikes will help them beat a fighter should watch the early ufc fights maybe that will give them a wake up call.
@CyberdarkHellKaiser
@CyberdarkHellKaiser 5 жыл бұрын
That's because traditional martial arts were made for self defense in any situation so when they saw a guy dive face-first towards the ground they had no idea how to respond to something that would be suicidally stupid outside of a mat/ring
@firstname4337
@firstname4337 5 жыл бұрын
50 year old Mike Tyson would KILL Ip Man in his prime
@jerry171460
@jerry171460 4 жыл бұрын
Strongly agree!
@Only1VT
@Only1VT 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Gibson , 😂
@hotsquidward6735
@hotsquidward6735 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Gibson Except Yip Man wasn't a fraud lmfao. If you think he was you're actually brain dead. Bruce lee only did wing chun for 5 years.
@hotsquidward6735
@hotsquidward6735 3 жыл бұрын
​@Brian Hankins You're right. He's too big and too skilled in *Boxing* . Good thing Yip Man didn't train boxing right? In wing chun, your weight , size, height, doesn't matter. Skill is what matters in wing chun, hence why if you're really good, i mean *really* good in wing chun, you can beat people twice or three times your size. I'm not saying anyone should now go train wing chun because most of the time, you're not actually fighting, you're practising reaction time and practising the same move over and over until you have the basics engrained in you. I haven't done wing chun in almost a year now because of the current issue in the world, but of 2 years of practise, i still remember 90% of what i was taught . I could back then definitely beat an average person , i did, once and fights aren't very frequent too. Anyways, i'm rambling on. Skill beats any sort of weight size as long as you're training in something who's sole purpose is to beat bigger and stronger people, hence you can in no way compare wing chun and boxing. Some of the people who it trained with, doing it for 30+ years yeah, no doubt they could absolute bin me, they could hit so damn fast; , i've never seen a boxer punch that fast. Again, you must train under a legitimate school which i did , and there are a lot of fakes out there so be careful if you choose to try .
@Enskyed
@Enskyed 3 жыл бұрын
@@hotsquidward6735 You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
@Nipajim
@Nipajim 4 жыл бұрын
As a Black Belt Karate man close to 3 Score years & ten, I was already past it when Mike Tyson came along, but watching him from before he became a World Champion , I am absolutely convinced in his prime none of the previous World Champions (even Ali) or those since, Boxing or MMA, would even have had a chance of beating him ...not a chance... a unique human being, great vlogs you make Ramsey...
@yeetlordentertainment3937
@yeetlordentertainment3937 Жыл бұрын
I think really Tyson is one of the best fighters in human history - losing to him isn't even something to be ashamed of. But, arguably, Ip Man coulld win for 1 big reason: weapons. Weapons come out in a street fight, all the time, and wing chun teaches double knives and the long pole. Can Mike Tyson win against a legendary practitioner of Wing Chun, without weapon skills? I don't think so. He could beat an ordinary wing chun practitioner 100%, even WITH weapons, but Ip Man could most likely win with the twin knives there. Barehanded, I have serious doubts - but then, name ANY fighting style that includes weapons that can stand up to a pure unarmed style in unarmed combat. Boxing is already an excellent fighting style, and since Mike is a pure barehanded guy, unless Ip brings out the knives, Mike is surely winning.
@keithdrummond1003
@keithdrummond1003 5 жыл бұрын
I used to teach Wing Chun. I can't tell you how many students I lost when I said those Ip Man movies are just that. I sparred with a golden glove contender. I don't need to tell you how that went.
@GibDozer1
@GibDozer1 5 жыл бұрын
I trained martial arts for years and got in the ring with a friend who was ranked in GG. After that I trained boxing for awhile and stopped MA entirely. I can't even fathom how fast and powerful Mike was in his prime! Yeah, I know exactly how your sparring match went because mine went the same way...
@ryanwalker9912
@ryanwalker9912 5 жыл бұрын
Keith Drummond damn why didn’t you refund them their money
@keithdrummond1003
@keithdrummond1003 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryanwalker9912 Money didn't change hands.
@dannygjk
@dannygjk 5 жыл бұрын
@@GibDozer1 To be fair Tyson was full of talent and got excellent training but he got to the top with help from PES he admitted it.
@HardHardMaster
@HardHardMaster 5 жыл бұрын
Keith Drummond an honest and fair chunner. hats off, you are a rarity.
7 жыл бұрын
Dude you gotta radio voice, could do adverts etc
@Gottacacheemalll
@Gottacacheemalll 6 жыл бұрын
UFCNUTTA I was just thinking that
@tedmetta3021
@tedmetta3021 6 жыл бұрын
Audio books for sure
@tedmetta3021
@tedmetta3021 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Messy he's just started a channel reading the bible, it's good stuff but he's slow uploading atm.
@bobmattel2367
@bobmattel2367 6 жыл бұрын
This man has a fantastic voice! I think he could talk his way out of a Fight!...I’m sure he has and would until talking, didn’t work?...😊👍🏽
@jiujitsuguy74
@jiujitsuguy74 6 жыл бұрын
He’s got this cartoon superhero voice/radio voice 😂
@paulhutton8635
@paulhutton8635 5 жыл бұрын
Love this guy he's a realist Mike Tyson was one of the best tactical boxers ever people seem to forget his angles and punch choice and power and remember his moments of loss of control. Tyson was from the street I can't imagine the massacre he would unfold with no rules
@JoeSmith-iv3sf
@JoeSmith-iv3sf 4 жыл бұрын
I love martial Arts, l love the movies but like you said realistic. Arguably the fastest for his size and hardest puncher on the planet ever. Comparison: I am so quick you can't hit me square in the head or face even with that baseball bat you have. Ha! Ha! You just swung the bat 6 times. One knocked the side of my head, other hit my shoulder, my bicep, forearm, and rib cage. Told you! To fast to hit my face!. That's what that would feel like if Mike misses and hits a 120 lb guy in the arm or shoulder. Might as well let a normal guy hit you w a bat!
@BruinsCelticsRedSoxBills
@BruinsCelticsRedSoxBills 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Hutton You can t imagine and I don t want to imagine!
@shonwalker7501
@shonwalker7501 4 жыл бұрын
When Mike Tyson fought Mitch Green in a street fight he knocked his eye out his socket
@Kaledrone
@Kaledrone 4 жыл бұрын
@@shonwalker7501 No he didn't, he caved in his forehead and knocked him out with a single punch, but his eyes were still left where it should be.
@stringjazz2937
@stringjazz2937 2 жыл бұрын
You're totally wrong. Mike Tyson wanted to kill his opponents in the ring. He tried to kill them.
@vb6548
@vb6548 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see someone trying to aim at Mikes vital points while hes charging you like a rhino XD
@jambononi
@jambononi 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly! Even dodging or backing up fast enough wouldn't work. Best bet is somehow dodging and getting enough time to run away. One punch and IP Man is down through pure physics alone.
@crispinhenthorn5318
@crispinhenthorn5318 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Mike in his prime was insanely good at not being hit.
@jlogan2228
@jlogan2228 3 жыл бұрын
Plus people forget if you have alot of muscle or bidy fat it negates alot of the pressure point attacking they want to claim bc their body can just absorb it. Leg kicks for example. Tyson is literally twice the size and vastly more muscular and strong so just from a physics standpoint unless ip just gets a perfect shot on a straight kick to the knee with enough force and right timing his leg kicks would do little more than piss tyson off. Yea theres a CHANCE he could pull something like that off but people dont understamd that just being skilled doesnt mean you can pull stuff like that off on command with ease
@obliviouz
@obliviouz 3 жыл бұрын
Tyson in his prime was a monster. Literally. You could pump him with shotgun slugs from point blank and he'd still kill you before he went down.
@JAMESGANG-f5u
@JAMESGANG-f5u 5 ай бұрын
It’d look like someone trying to play Jenga with an EF5 tornado 🌪 barreling towards them.
@4G12
@4G12 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I subscribed to this channel. A heavy dose of reality is exactly what a bunch of manic sugar bunnies need.
@Slappaccino
@Slappaccino 5 жыл бұрын
Right? I never realized how delusional armchair martial artists are until KZbin came around.
@HardHardMaster
@HardHardMaster 5 жыл бұрын
Kazuya ikr
@Slappaccino
@Slappaccino 5 жыл бұрын
@@guitarttimman Chuck Norris fought in TSD / TKD competitions where there were strict rules about striking force, strikes to the head, open handed strikes, etc. Like most forms of karate, it was just point fighting and not full force. Karate as a whole typically underperforms in an actual fight. GSP and Lyoto Machida are the only two particularly successful karateka in mma that come to mind, and GSP mostly just grappled. Both practiced other arts as well. I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting, but they're few and far between. Mostly because karate doesn't teach you how to fight. It teaches you how to spar, and stop at each point lol. Outside of some kyokushin schools, it's not common to find hard sparring full contact karate gyms. You say that like Buster Douglas was a bum. He was a 260lb heavyweight champ with a great record, and 24 of 37 wins by ko. He could have crippled Chuck. Idk why you seem to think boxers aren't capable fighters, and martial artists are inexplicably superior, but that's not how it works.
@jonahhex9620
@jonahhex9620 5 жыл бұрын
m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZqVoY13pMiCqq8
@douglanglois456
@douglanglois456 6 жыл бұрын
And more to the actual topic - Tyson would connect with one uppercut and Ip Man's descendants would be born with tinnitus for the rest of time.
@jhcoverdrive9287
@jhcoverdrive9287 6 жыл бұрын
This!!! I like some elements of wing chun for various reasons but uh, I don't think Ip Man would stand a chance when Tyson connects with that uppercut from the mat.
@Yesterday23071
@Yesterday23071 6 жыл бұрын
@Mr Wizzykin So true
@haydenbain3633
@haydenbain3633 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@HardHardMaster
@HardHardMaster 5 жыл бұрын
JHC OverDrive Ip Man would be pronounced dead on the spot.
@steffanofumo
@steffanofumo 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!! It’s incredible that people in 2018 still believe martial arts are some sort of magic.
@igorgerlovin3185
@igorgerlovin3185 6 жыл бұрын
The true essence of martial arts is to master the use of your own body in such a way as to be able to most effectively defend yourself against just bout any kind of attack. There is nothing magical about it.
@Jamesfckoffscammers
@Jamesfckoffscammers 6 жыл бұрын
@@igorgerlovin3185 True that, some people just don't understand that though.
@jameshills7425
@jameshills7425 6 жыл бұрын
Martial arts are presented as magic in movies. Stuntmen/martial artists in controlled situations present choreographed movements and often with CG effects added as if they are real. They do things that cannot be done in the real world. The public buys into it.
@Jamesfckoffscammers
@Jamesfckoffscammers 6 жыл бұрын
@@jameshills7425 well yeah, if you mean jumping 20 feet or higher into the air up on top of a building, running on water, fighting on top of Tree's, punching through solid walls made of really strong material, reflecting bullets with a sword or even moving like the Matrix and dodging bullets, etc. Then yeah, that shits fake as hell. Whereas realistically speaking, Martial Arts is designed for self-defense, and does work yet is only also as good as the practitioner that studied it (excluding styles that look fancy, but wouldn't allow you to fight your way out of a wet paper bag... matter of fact, the worst one is the "no touch style", that style is absolute garbage).
@keithtorrence2487
@keithtorrence2487 6 жыл бұрын
Steffano Fumo boxing is a martial art.
@TheArabConservative
@TheArabConservative 2 жыл бұрын
The most well spoken fighter I've ever seen or heard. RESPECT
@ronniejamesdio6889
@ronniejamesdio6889 5 жыл бұрын
The real question is : how many ip man will take to defeat a Mike Tyson?
@JoeSmith-iv3sf
@JoeSmith-iv3sf 5 жыл бұрын
1 at a Time? or can they team up?
@ronniejamesdio6889
@ronniejamesdio6889 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoeSmith-iv3sf Of course they can team up, otherwise it would be too easy for Tyson..
@JoeSmith-iv3sf
@JoeSmith-iv3sf 5 жыл бұрын
@@ronniejamesdio6889 in a small area I keep thinking about Cap. America in the elevator! Out in the open I think of Neo in the park.
@JoseBarahonaes
@JoseBarahonaes 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoeSmith-iv3sf If they team up, it would be like Naruto fighting Sasuke with all his clones!
@Hexenhammer
@Hexenhammer 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoeSmith-iv3sf what if they built a larger Ip Man, like Voltron? I still think that Tyson would win.
@lonewanderer3456
@lonewanderer3456 6 жыл бұрын
Superb. I'm thinking all the way through, Tyson in a street fight with no rules and no ref? You summed it up at the end "you don't want that fight". Boxers can streetfight with the best of them - elbows, forearms, low shots to the groin, headbutts - they do that in the ring even with the rules! You did a lovely job of slapping some sense into the argument without being offensive Ramsey, Bravo Sir.
@fjg9398
@fjg9398 5 жыл бұрын
Thais are also nuts at street, most fights end up close because brawlers can't judge distance, one knee to the body and rip
@Mikau-gb8uo
@Mikau-gb8uo 5 жыл бұрын
baby deer vs full grown male grizzly bear.. who would win?
@SDK2584
@SDK2584 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson.
@MrOnetedify
@MrOnetedify 5 жыл бұрын
does the baby deer know Wing chun? If so i grizzly wins ...
@TheJaycee720
@TheJaycee720 5 жыл бұрын
If the baby deer knows submission grappling, then I would say that the baby deer wins
@fucwitdastyle
@fucwitdastyle 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheJaycee720 Ever see a Bear grapple? The Deer's fucked lol.
@HardHardMaster
@HardHardMaster 5 жыл бұрын
Panzerfaust 991 Mike Tyson
@Seantorky3
@Seantorky3 3 жыл бұрын
I did wing chun for three years before switching to boxing. Best decision of my youth. Maybe of my life, got me thinking now.
@billlupin8345
@billlupin8345 6 жыл бұрын
We already saw this in Ip Man 3. The answer is "everyone." Everyone wins when fighters like Tyson and master Ip collide.
@sokratesteron5845
@sokratesteron5845 6 жыл бұрын
Boy it was just show Mike tyson wouldn't move right and left when he approaches from 5 Meter And he wouldn't smash one Window after another He would win because he is such a monster
@miguelmoronta6871
@miguelmoronta6871 6 жыл бұрын
Ömer Sentürk idk who would win. Most likely Tyson. But the thing is that being a “monster” doesn’t matter. Ip Man taught and trained in ways to beat any opponent by any means necessary. Doesn’t matter how big a guy is when their balls are busted and an eye has been torn out. Then again. A good hook would drop Ip Man also. So like I said. I have no clue.
@TheAce12570
@TheAce12570 6 жыл бұрын
@@miguelmoronta6871 I mean no offense, but the only accurate thing you said was 'I have no clue.'
@miguelmoronta6871
@miguelmoronta6871 6 жыл бұрын
Beta Factor I’m 95% sure Tyson would kill him. My point was that if a guy trains in ways meant to fight dirty like ball busting and eye tearing, then it doesn’t matter how big you are. Your weak points will always be weak. If Ip Man got lucky and got him with some of that shit, he might win. And that’s just the truth.
@TheAce12570
@TheAce12570 6 жыл бұрын
@@miguelmoronta6871 Your weak points will always be weak, but you're never getting anywhere near the weak points of a top class figher like Tyson. You think he's just gonna let you bring your hands to his face and gouge his eyes? As soon as your hands start moving towards his eyes you're gonna catch a left hook that will show you all the stars of the milky way. Luck always plays a part in any kind of combat, fair enough, but even with odds 100:1 for Ip man vs Mike Tyson, I wouldn't bet my money on him.
@yorkshireR9T
@yorkshireR9T 6 жыл бұрын
I think Tyson, in his prime, would have beaten anyone on the planet at that time.
@code3xiv
@code3xiv 6 жыл бұрын
John Adams Totally!..... unless its a super good BJJ guy. Might be a diff story.
@discrete3511
@discrete3511 6 жыл бұрын
John Adams not a great wrestler
@yorkshireR9T
@yorkshireR9T 6 жыл бұрын
bosh6i6a good luck shooting in to get him down.
@drsandkastenschaufel
@drsandkastenschaufel 6 жыл бұрын
John Adams a mixed martial artist could do that easily becouse tyson never learned how to defend takedowns And if you think one punch even from mike tyson stops a wrestler from putting you down You clearly dont understand martial arts
@michaelpetrie4907
@michaelpetrie4907 6 жыл бұрын
I'd take Aleksandr Karelin over Tyson, but there's definitely very few names on the list of people who could take a prime Mike Tyson in his own era.
@slimsammyone
@slimsammyone 6 жыл бұрын
A big man, a well trained big man, doesn't walk away from Mike in his prime.
@stevenesbitt3528
@stevenesbitt3528 5 жыл бұрын
Samuel Brown yeah there was a reason that the rest of the division looked terrified each time the bell rang, guy was a animal.
@AT-qm8gv
@AT-qm8gv 5 жыл бұрын
Iron Mike was the greatest boxer I have ever seen.
@armanibaskin3507
@armanibaskin3507 5 жыл бұрын
"Does a little old man walk away from that" dat killed me 😂😂😂😂
@dustinchen
@dustinchen 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being real and not insulting martial arts.
@TheMelvinWei
@TheMelvinWei 6 жыл бұрын
Fanboys like the one who asked this question can connect the dots when it comes to people they see on the street (bigger, more muscular men are not to be trifled with) but when it comes to their favorite action stars and historic figures they lose all sense.
@allenmccall9814
@allenmccall9814 6 жыл бұрын
Melvin Wei well I'm 245 with a gut and could sleep most slow stiff buff dudes
@allenmccall9814
@allenmccall9814 6 жыл бұрын
Melvin Wei guys who scare me are tall lanky mofos around 200 pounds , they tend to have cardio and are harder to hit it seems
@emissarygw2264
@emissarygw2264 6 жыл бұрын
allen mccall I'm 130 and have never slept with a stiff guy in my life
@allenmccall9814
@allenmccall9814 6 жыл бұрын
EmissaryGW2 lol well I dont exactly know how to take that
@TheMelvinWei
@TheMelvinWei 6 жыл бұрын
LOL your initial reply to my post was, "well I'm 245 with a gut and could sleep most slow stiff buff dudes." Anyway, at 245 pounds you practically outweigh almost anyone who wants to get into fights out there; if you were 145 pounds those big muscular slow stiffs would be really hard for you to beat up.
@soranezumi5359
@soranezumi5359 4 жыл бұрын
OK but who would win in a street fight between "Chinese kids idea of Ip man" vs "American kids idea of Chuck Noris" ...GO!
@1995Milky1995
@1995Milky1995 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, when Chuck Norris does pushups, the world moves away from him, obviously Chuck Norris wins :3
@gregorymerry5408
@gregorymerry5408 4 жыл бұрын
Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one bird.
@riccin.7306
@riccin.7306 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregorymerry5408 this comment wins the internet lmao
@Mjhavok
@Mjhavok 5 жыл бұрын
If Ip man had a suit of armour and baseball bat, he'd still get crushed.
@ladyt1866
@ladyt1866 6 жыл бұрын
alot of people forget that the pro boxer not only trains for speed , agility and pure power they also train to be able to take hits from their own weight class . IpMan vs. Tyson ,if tyson landed one punch IpMan would be done on the way to icu. It has been proven by science that a pro boxers punch is equal to a head on vehicle collision at high speeds.
@Atanotes
@Atanotes 5 жыл бұрын
My theory is this. I’m writing from the perspective of a practitioner of Aikido and MMA. I’m doing aikido for its philosophy and I believe taking wisdom from every discipline is better than getting stuck in one. Where is wing chuns fame coming from? When Dewey said, wing Chun is only good if you’re fighting other wing Chun practitioners, I thought of this. Back in ancient days in China you had two options. Learn Wing Chun- or some other ancient Chinese martial art- , or don’t learn anything and be a defenseless farmer. There weren’t any of the boxing , kick boxing or whatever. This way you only fought with people who had trained in similar martial arts, thus wing Chun was a go to martial art because of its chain punches or its principle that aiming a critical middle line will help the helpless woman in taking down that evil muscular person. As a result Wing Chun was glorified and it’s rightful fame began. Why will it not work against boxing? In our modern era boxing is the prime sport for punching strikes, just like Muay Thai TKD or Kick box are good for kicks. They train day and night punching and taking punches. And if you’re going to exchange punches, you can’t expect to take down a boxer before he takes you down with the punch techniques you’ve learned from other styles of martial arts. Because the boxer has taken seriously powerful punches from every possible angle in his career and training but in the contrary you haven’t taken a single punch other than rapid, half-power punches from other wing Chun practitioners. It’s like beating the guy in his own game, beating Michael Phelps in butterfly when all you know about swimming is breaststroke. Some may say: but he didn’t train for groin shots, throat shots, eye pokes or for other rapid critical middle line strikes that we throw in Wing Chun/Kung Fu/etc. Right, he didn’t train for them. But you have one shot, and one opportunity. You miss it, or he somehow defends it, and you’re gone. He will wreck havoc on the person in front of him. What Mike Tyson really didn’t train for is submissions and takedowns, like the ones in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. So, if you can take him down, you may be able to choke him or be very fast and put him in some other form of submission. But I doubt anyone from BJJ roots can reach him without getting knocked out, as BJJ practitioners do not really train for hard strikes to the head or liver, and we all know what mike Tyson is all about: landing these beast of shots. All of your training will go out the window when you take that first powerful shot. To sum up, defending that an ancient martial art, designed to be used on everyday people or other other wing chun practitioners , can take down a person who trained most of his life in another ,overall more impactful, combat sport is an illusion. It’s like bringing a spear to a gun fight. If you can poke him with that , that’s good news for you. But before you even get the chance to poke him, he will shoot you dead from the distance. Have a nice day everyone
@Zeewman
@Zeewman 5 жыл бұрын
If I was an ancient Chinese fighter, I would totally smash Tyson, because I would use a crossbow. He wouldn't have any chance to punch me at all. But crossbows were expensive, so the only chance for poor villagers was to use kicks to and aim for Tyson's (who time-travelled to ancient China somehow) legs to bring him down and finish it on the ground. Tyson wasn't trained for wrestling, etc., but he would be still very strong.
@JoeSmith-iv3sf
@JoeSmith-iv3sf 4 жыл бұрын
You said that very well, the only thing I would add is if a BJJ guy was to attempt to submit Mike he would have to be somewhat relative in size. No one at 115 the size of IP Man is doing anything. Many of the ppl arguing here do not contemplate the power your talking about. To basically humiliate seasoned trained fighters like he did speaks volumes. It's the same ppl that talk about High school Foot Ball and what they could do in the NFL. Mike's jab would feel like getting hit w a 2x4 to someone that size.
@Atanotes
@Atanotes 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoeSmith-iv3sf yep, that's right. Even with the correct technique you need plenty of strength to suppress his brute force.
@OGT4204
@OGT4204 4 жыл бұрын
Zeewman in ancient China you’re lucky to be over 5 feet, you are lucky to weigh 150 pounds, even if you got mike to the ground he’d be able to throw you 10 feet easily, then another 10 feet when he hits you and disintegrates your brain.
@jambononi
@jambononi 4 жыл бұрын
@@Zeewman That's like saying could ip man rugby tackle a pro rugby player? The point is Mike Tyson is so strong and so fast, many attempts at even unbalancing him probably wouldn't work. And again just pure power against IP man would probably render most restraining techniques pretty useless too. And Mike could take any hit. I usually find pain resistance is a psychological thing. There's no point in Mike Tyson tapping out of a pro Boxing game because someone catches him in the throat. Adrenaline would kick in and even a flailing panic swing would probably break IP Man's skull, as Tyson coughs and chokes from a throat strike. Also he's relentless and angry. He's not going to stop and you wouldn't be able to deflect his punches, because the punch would just go straight through.
@MrRiz157
@MrRiz157 4 жыл бұрын
I think people have been deluded by movies. As a kid I loved watching kung-fu movies and bought into all the hype but then I grew up, was introduced to professional boxing mma and realised Bruce Lee, Jackie chan were great movie stars. All these hypothetical questions whether Bruce could beat Ali Tyson were answered. He would get chewed up within secs ko flat out. Wing chun looks cool but in a real street fight or against professional fighters its suicide. Glad this dude can tell the masses to wake up.
@samuraiisalmighty4917
@samuraiisalmighty4917 4 жыл бұрын
Riz nah bruce is too fast u must be high
@Kaledrone
@Kaledrone 4 жыл бұрын
@@samuraiisalmighty4917 I hope that's sarcasm coming from you.
@MrParkerman6
@MrParkerman6 3 жыл бұрын
Jackie Chan would destroy Tyson in a real fight. So would Jet Li in his prime.
@stevo62ful
@stevo62ful 15 күн бұрын
@@MrParkerman6 hopefully you are joking. If not, seek mental help
@fsr186
@fsr186 6 жыл бұрын
I'm was a wing chun practiotioner and I'm a hobby boxer since 2011 and boxing coach for a few months. I'll tell You something: Wing Chun started to work very well after I learned how to box hahaha. And my boxing have improved terrificly after I change bodybuilding program for a powerlifting program without changing a single thing in the boxing trainings. Shame that took me a decade to find this things out.
@davronshumpert9738
@davronshumpert9738 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know why it started to work? Can you explain. I want to see; if we experience the same and outcome
@MF-bl6ed
@MF-bl6ed 5 жыл бұрын
@@KissMyConverseFool hahahah right!? Tyson grew up in Brooklyn in the late 60's, the dude has seen his fair share of street crimes and fights
@ryanwalker9912
@ryanwalker9912 5 жыл бұрын
Filipe Rosa lol I’m sorry you got a little mislead into learning choreography. I’d check out Muay Thai and wrestling
@ccarniver
@ccarniver 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair Donnie Yen is a good MMA practicioner, but the MMA movies he made didn't sell but IP man sold well. People buy into glorious lies.
@bigbay1159
@bigbay1159 5 жыл бұрын
Facts
@arjacfellhand838
@arjacfellhand838 5 жыл бұрын
As shown by current U.S. President Dolt 45
@masonarmand8988
@masonarmand8988 5 жыл бұрын
to be fair about what lmao?
@hector665
@hector665 5 жыл бұрын
Donnie yen would still lose against Mike Tyson.
@masonarmand8988
@masonarmand8988 5 жыл бұрын
@@hector665 tyson would get charged and they'd literally shut down any atheletic commission that let that fly
@The10thManRules
@The10thManRules 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson NOW is still formidable.
@stannisbaratheon6637
@stannisbaratheon6637 5 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t train anymore, but im sure he Can still throw down.
@The10thManRules
@The10thManRules 5 жыл бұрын
@@stannisbaratheon6637 He can still destroy the average man. He's just no longer competitive among boxing elite.
@dannygjk
@dannygjk 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah they don't lose the skills they will still take out an ordinary fighter.
@HardHardMaster
@HardHardMaster 5 жыл бұрын
Stannis Baratheon He would still eat low level pro boxers for breakfast and he probably does.
@bigbay1159
@bigbay1159 5 жыл бұрын
@AmplifiedSilence Facts man, tyson is just a legit beast even with age.
@ashocck8065
@ashocck8065 3 жыл бұрын
Naturally, your assessment is correct. Mike Tyson vs anyone half his size or bigger than that, no matter what their training would kill them in 5 seconds. Training is great. Tyson trained AND fought, really fought. Most people don't understand the difference between training and fighting. Thank you for being one of the few who tells it like it is when it comes to this silliness.
@Entropy3ko
@Entropy3ko 2 жыл бұрын
I would say maybe a smaller dude with lots of fights under his belt might stand a chance, but would still be at a disadvantage compared to Tyson size and freakish strength
@Zozz-tw9vn
@Zozz-tw9vn 4 ай бұрын
@@Entropy3koto be fair its mike tyson,if he was your average weight he would still be an absolute monster in the ring
@lancepabon
@lancepabon 6 жыл бұрын
sorry. that wouldn't be even a fight. Mike Tyson's advantage too much for the little guy. even MMA has weight classes.
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 6 жыл бұрын
I thought about saying that, but then my video would have only been 3 seconds long!
@thomasflynn5366
@thomasflynn5366 6 жыл бұрын
UFC originally had no weight classes and one of the smallest guys won. That being said none of the other guys were Mike Tyson. They were hack fighters from other sports. There is also a video of one of the Gracie's and Marius Pudzianowski and Gracie gets knocked out. Again, Pudzianowski is no Mike Tyson. If Tyson fought Ip Man Ip Man would be lucky to walk away alive.
@lancepabon
@lancepabon 6 жыл бұрын
yup. it didn't work too well. that's why they do now...
@lancepabon
@lancepabon 6 жыл бұрын
if you think that size doesn't matter, you haven't fought for real...
@lancepabon
@lancepabon 6 жыл бұрын
oh, and movie fighting doesn't count...
@bastiaan0741
@bastiaan0741 5 жыл бұрын
I would genuinely bet the farm on Mike, fighting with one arm.
@SDK2584
@SDK2584 5 жыл бұрын
@lalybum Breaking a hand punching someone is not that uncommon, actually. That is why pros wrap their hands and use gloves. Mike basically punches so hard his hands can't take it. Now imagine what a punch like that does to whatever it hits...
@Ic3g3org3
@Ic3g3org3 5 жыл бұрын
@lalybum MMA fighters broke hands in wraps and gloves very often. Thats why you need at least 10 oz gloves to protect your hands...
@ronwells8806
@ronwells8806 5 жыл бұрын
You are wrong 😂
@dragonbane44
@dragonbane44 5 жыл бұрын
@lalybum Dude, it was not some random thug, it was Mitch Green, another really good heavyweight boxer. And it was not a bar fight but a street fight. Even Mitch Green would beat Ip Man, with one arm tied.
@qiangluo1974
@qiangluo1974 6 жыл бұрын
tyson is a proven world champion. ip man's combat history is mainly based on legends and folk lores. beside tyson is 230 lb 1 out of 1000 special athletic human being. while ip man is 5 foot 100 lb dude. if its a fair fight with no weapon no ambush involved, tyson will win almost every single time.
@vaderetro264
@vaderetro264 6 жыл бұрын
Miguel Garcia Rivera There are plenty of videos and photos of him next to other people of whom we know the height, Bruce Lee for instance. And it's not hard to guess the weight of such a minute person.
@Fedorevsky
@Fedorevsky 6 жыл бұрын
EVERY time, Not almost. He would win with one flurry. The first flurry. He would break IP mans arms with punches if he tried to protect himself.
@bilbobaggins5815
@bilbobaggins5815 6 жыл бұрын
Almost?
@pomponi0
@pomponi0 6 жыл бұрын
1 out of 1000? I suppose you mean it figuratively. I'd say he was 1 out of 100 million
@HardHardMaster
@HardHardMaster 6 жыл бұрын
Qiang Luo almost?????? lol
@ketchup5344
@ketchup5344 4 жыл бұрын
Mike at his peak knocks everyone on planet earth out
@sharoonaftab8894
@sharoonaftab8894 4 жыл бұрын
me: *Laughs while taking my 9mm out*
@ketchup5344
@ketchup5344 4 жыл бұрын
@@sharoonaftab8894 😳🤔🤣
@majorsynthqed7374
@majorsynthqed7374 4 жыл бұрын
Evander Holyfield says otherwise.
@ketchup5344
@ketchup5344 4 жыл бұрын
@@majorsynthqed7374 So does Evanders' mama lol
@VonJay
@VonJay 4 жыл бұрын
Not Lewis though. His reach was too much. Kept mike at the end of the rifle.
@aanler
@aanler 5 жыл бұрын
So the question is: 100 kg, trained fighter with slight psychotic tendencies vs tiny, 54 kg Chinese "fighter" with no reliable track record? Yeah, Tyson wins every single time.
@Tazdingo01
@Tazdingo01 4 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@christophegelin2010
@christophegelin2010 4 жыл бұрын
a lot of people forget why there is categories in fights. the difference in power is tremendous. i saw a friend of mine by mistake put in the category over his. he was better but couldn't do anything. and then mike tyson can fight, is a world record man with 50+ kg, not just 5 to 10 kg. i love IP man, but that one is a fail.
@Egoblivion
@Egoblivion 4 жыл бұрын
Why say "Chinese?"
@burt591
@burt591 4 жыл бұрын
@@Egoblivion Im guessing because the guy was Chinese
@Egoblivion
@Egoblivion 4 жыл бұрын
@@burt591 But he didn't say "African American" or something like that for Tyson...
@AdobadoFantastico
@AdobadoFantastico 7 жыл бұрын
Of course Tyson would win. Tyson's skill was crazy and he was supremely athletic. The only ones who were more skilled than him are mostly in the short list of debatable "pound for pound greatest of all time". I think one reason traditional practitioners overestimate the likelihood of success is because they overestimate how easy it is to land a debilitating shot on somebody *in a dynamic situation*. A groin strike, for example, will hurt a lot. But someone who is trained, focused, and angry can absolutely power through the pain of that. If the person is wearing pants, you cannot see exactly where the gonads are and guarantee a strike solid enough to rupture and cause the kind of devastating damage you would need to end the fight. Similarly with things like breaking joints. Soooooo many TMA practitioners are _convinced_ that they could quickly snap someone's elbow or break their knee. There is a reason that submission grappling emphasizes position first. There's also a reason this sort of thing never happens in MMA(even though there are no rules against striking limbs). Breaking limbs is NOT easy, it takes very real force. The kind of force that isn't easy to exert on a small, mobile target. A person's knee doesn't just break in half when hit, it *moves*. It must be held in place and an active, violent opponent is not about to let that attempt go unchallenged. But there seems to be a common notion that it is easy to target and execute such a maneuver with one swift strike.
@gmork1090
@gmork1090 6 жыл бұрын
Ip Man from the movies was not real. Ip Man was a simple cop who fled to hong kong and opened a school, smoked opium all day and hardly taught anyone anything: his students did nearly all the work. He was very good, but not world class, and not an athlete: his most famous students other than Lee also knew other styles and street fought a LOT. Bruce Lee didn't call it 'classical mess' because the term sounds cute.
@sokratesteron5845
@sokratesteron5845 6 жыл бұрын
Mikes neck is too big to be vulnerable
@HardHardMaster
@HardHardMaster 6 жыл бұрын
Anguel Roumenov Bogoev that is the problem with these martial arts and martial artists that never actually test their delusions. unfortunately that is most of them.
@HardHardMaster
@HardHardMaster 6 жыл бұрын
Miguel Garcia Rivera I've seen footage of Ip Man. it's here on KZbin and it's ridiculous. a tiny, skinny, fragile old midget doing unrealistic static techniques that wouldn't break toasted bread.
@diegoestrella7722
@diegoestrella7722 6 жыл бұрын
@@HardHardMaster lost it in the toasted bread part hahahahaha
@paddyr1568
@paddyr1568 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson knew some illegal moves, just ask Lennox Lewis
@bryanbrown8870
@bryanbrown8870 6 жыл бұрын
You mean evander holyfield?
@paddyr1568
@paddyr1568 6 жыл бұрын
bryan, whoops, you're absolutely correct, It was Evander he bit, old age is messing with my brain
@interpol-0193
@interpol-0193 6 жыл бұрын
Paddy R yeah he make a famous shaolin secret Tai Chi chuan move called "the Tiger bite the ear".
@HardHardMaster
@HardHardMaster 6 жыл бұрын
interpol-01 lol
@ohayosumodayton1226
@ohayosumodayton1226 5 жыл бұрын
Tyson would kill anyone in a striking contest, at his prime.
@Kaledrone
@Kaledrone 4 жыл бұрын
I think he would kill anyone in a real fight unless it's some high profile mma champion who also happens go be bigger than Tyson.
@axelstone3131
@axelstone3131 3 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson is human like everyone else. He can’t fight without his eyes. He can’t fight if he can’t breath and he can’t fight if his knees get destroyed. It’s as simple as that.
@niarotekerau1141
@niarotekerau1141 3 жыл бұрын
But he was running from david tua
@MrParkerman6
@MrParkerman6 3 жыл бұрын
@Axel Stone That sounds like some Terry Silver next level Shit!!!! You have brought me great honor!
@kartikey0499
@kartikey0499 3 жыл бұрын
@@axelstone3131 what makes you believe that you will get a clear cut way of gauging his eyes then breaking his knees and he will stand still watching all this🤣🤣 Fighters know how to take pain and fighters move also. As bruce lee said " Blocks don't strike back"
@ProtienandIron
@ProtienandIron 5 жыл бұрын
"a list of suggestions". That is the best description I've heard of martial arts. Love this channel, keep up the good work.
@finnishfatman
@finnishfatman 5 жыл бұрын
I've tested out few MA styles in my youth and also some boxing. Few years ago, I thought "hey, I'm fat and out of shape, I need a new hobby!" and thought I'd do Wing Chun just for the physical part to motivate me to get my lazy ass off the bench. So, I went into this local Wing Chun "house" (if you can call it that) where they trained and thought, ok, they have this whole chinese thing going on here, which is pretty cool. And the couple that were teaching seemed like good people, so I gave it a shot. But... sad to say this... eventually I didn't find it too enjoyable. Oh it was good physical training for someone who was out of shape as I was. I was sweating like a pig (tho pigs don't sweat... anyhow...) after each session. But the thing I didn't enjoy was how all of the other people there absolutely believed in what they were doing, as in it was something you could totally destroy your opponent. The wife of the sifu (as he was called) even said how she learned how to do this "slicing" hit across her opponents chest, that could make even bigger man take couple of steps back... Really? I nearly asked her to demonstrate that slice-punch (dunno what it was called), because I wanted to see, what some 60kg (about 132lbs) and 160cm (roughly 5'2 or something) tall female could do to a man like me, who weights nearly 160kg (near 350lbs) and is 190cm (just over 6'2 feet) tall and who can plant his feet well enough so won't be knocked over by some gentle breeze of wind... But I didn't. Because I knew that nothing I would've said or done would've made a damn difference to their mindset. And I wasn't gonna show some little woman the horribly ridiculous difference in our strength by knocking her out just to prove my point. That mindset was something I didn't enjoy seeing. Each time was more and more and eventually I quit. If they'd been realistic and did it for the reasons I did: to get motivation to get into shape again or remain in shape, then that'd been ok. But none of them had seen real fighting and how brutal it can get without those set-of-wing-chun-rules. They were kinda living some chinese fantasy, as if they were roleplaying the Ip Man days or something, which I can respect, since I do "roleplay" when we go play a few games of airsoft with the fellas, running around woods playing as some soliders... :P But at least we don't believe our airsoft BB guns are real... that's the difference. So the Wing Chun wasn't for me and I had to search other interesting hobbies to keep me entertained.
@finnishfatman
@finnishfatman 5 жыл бұрын
@Fight Fly Crow A wake-up call for reality eh? Probably something she could've used, but I figured it wasn't my place to teach her :'P
@finnishfatman
@finnishfatman 5 жыл бұрын
@Fight Fly Crow Some sexist white knights might consider it a "bad" thing if man defends himself against a woman and knocks her out... but in truly equal sense, if she attacks with all the power she can use, then you're equally allowed to use all your power against her to defend yourself... Tough luck if she attacks someone 10 times stronger than her :P But that's equality: her intent is to harm you with her 100%. That doesn't mean you should adjust your power to match exactly hers, since that's sexist. That means you're allowed to unleash your 100% too =)
@finnishfatman
@finnishfatman 5 жыл бұрын
@Fight Fly Crow There are a lot of women thinking they can absolutely take down a full grown man... but they just don't realize that the difference in strength is just hilariously massive. I guess all those TV shows and movies are to blame somewhat too... women throwing men around like there's no physics involved :P
@CaneFu
@CaneFu 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation I have ever seen to dispel the myth of "magical" martial arts that so many movie fans seem to believe. FYI, Mike Tyson would also have given Bruce Lee a beating. Now bring the hate on Bruce Lee fans...
@CaneFu
@CaneFu 4 жыл бұрын
@Jim Jones I agree with every word you said.
@Hpencer
@Hpencer 4 жыл бұрын
It would be a decent fight actually
@jambononi
@jambononi 4 жыл бұрын
@Jim Jones Why did you say 'No.' when you're agreeing with what CaneFu is saying? He's saying Mike Tyson would given a beating and you say Mike Tyson would have easily won.
@jambononi
@jambononi 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hpencer It would be interesting but I reckon one or two punches would mostly win the fight just from sheer power in Mike Tyson's punches. Weight alone would render Bruce Lee's strikes meaningless to someone like Mike Tyson.
@jambononi
@jambononi 4 жыл бұрын
@Jim Jones ah ok, no harm intended! Was just wondering if that's what you meant or not!
@JustIn-op6oy
@JustIn-op6oy 4 жыл бұрын
So glad you made a point to talk about Mike's technique. His skills don't get enough credit.
@joopsnoop
@joopsnoop 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, the fact that this is even a topic of serious discussion tells a lot about the dreamers out there who have never been hit hard.
@MrParkerman6
@MrParkerman6 3 жыл бұрын
I have been hit hard and it doesn't hurt. My step dad used to beat me daily, so physical pain doesn't really phase me. Emotional pain hurts alot more.
@jasonhellboy_
@jasonhellboy_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrParkerman6 thank you stepdad
@johnroberts1252
@johnroberts1252 5 жыл бұрын
LOVE IT!!! I've been training boxers for 30 years. I have trained 3 world champions, one a female, Layla Mccarter. While I personally only boxed amateur every martial artist I ever got into the ring with I beat the crap out of handily!! I'm 64 years old and I've still got it!! If ever you're in Vegas check out Johnny Tocco's ringside gym!! Ask for Maynard!! Keep it real brother!!!
@shawnchuang1450
@shawnchuang1450 5 жыл бұрын
No one cares
@psycho0815
@psycho0815 4 жыл бұрын
@RogerwilcoFoxtrot Boxing is not an art. It's craftsmanship. But some very talented boxers are real artists in the ring. ;-)
@Billyguns82
@Billyguns82 5 жыл бұрын
Boxing is a art of it's own
@burt2245
@burt2245 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for a person like this to come along and debunk myths! (y) Kudos!
@everythingisvibration
@everythingisvibration 5 жыл бұрын
Ip Man & Bruce Lee together wouldn’t walk out of an alley against Mike in his prime 19 years old
@stompnucustoms2616
@stompnucustoms2616 5 жыл бұрын
your probably right!
@ClarkKulper
@ClarkKulper 5 жыл бұрын
I bet Bruce Lee and Tyson would have been good friends 🤔
@markm4033
@markm4033 5 жыл бұрын
Incorrect, Bruce fought a challenger who was 3 times his size. Bruce let him get in 3 hits before he showed him who was boss. Plus IP Man knew combat so well, he knows where to strike.
@warhammer1
@warhammer1 5 жыл бұрын
@@markm4033 I guess we'll never know for sure...
@buakawbenchemekfan9852
@buakawbenchemekfan9852 5 жыл бұрын
@@markm4033 yeah, he is master of wong shun leung, who is undefeated street fighting in beimo. And why many wing chun doesnt work. There is still many school who dont teach them right/not real wing chun. Knew my friend who only learn 2years in wing chun he is average salary man with wife and one kid. And he manage to in par with muay thai practitioner. I myself doing muay thai and still respect wing chun
@jonahhenry1941
@jonahhenry1941 6 жыл бұрын
People act like Boxers would have no chance against "real" fighters, but that's just absurd. Mike Tyson is twice IP man's size, multiple times as strong, much faster, and absolutely ferocious. The point where martial arts skills would tip the scales agains a guy like Tyson would probably be around 30 lbs smaller than Tyson. The absolute BEST 190lb UFC fighter on the planet would have a decent chance against Prime Tyson, but even then it wouldn't be a sure win. A little guy would get mauled. It would be like putting a Jaguar in a cage with a bobcat. Both have very sharp teeth and claws, but it's pretty obvious who's walking out of that cage in one piece.
@StarstoneSilvermoon
@StarstoneSilvermoon 5 жыл бұрын
people used to say the same thing about the Gracie family. and BJJ
@whirlingidervish
@whirlingidervish 5 жыл бұрын
@@StarstoneSilvermoon That's an extremely good point. Submissions are definitely an effective way to pull out a win against someone bigger and stronger than you. All the more so if they haven't ever seen a submission expert in action before. It would have been interesting to see Tyson fight a Gracie. Boxing's biggest weakness as a combat style is it's lack of techniques for dealing with kicks, wrestlers and submissions. Tyson would still destroy Ip man, and being honest I'd put my money on Tyson over a Gracie but that's a much tougher bet to make.
@HardHardMaster
@HardHardMaster 5 жыл бұрын
boxers are the realest of fighters. stupid acrobatic and/or theoretical styles that never even spar are pure fantasy. the only way to learn how to fight is to fight.
@StarstoneSilvermoon
@StarstoneSilvermoon 5 жыл бұрын
It would be a fight to remember. And the wind be sel out crowds
@taxpayerzombie
@taxpayerzombie 5 жыл бұрын
You're wrong! I just watched the fight between Ip Man and Tyson on Ip Man 3, and it was a draw! ☺
@boideshi25
@boideshi25 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@jessmith7324
@jessmith7324 4 жыл бұрын
Saw that. Choreographed but was respectful to both styles. Tyson did say though he broke a finger during the film.
@wesparsons5331
@wesparsons5331 4 жыл бұрын
That settles it!
@saiyin002
@saiyin002 4 жыл бұрын
Good catch but it wasn't a prime Mike Tyson.
@scottphillips2870
@scottphillips2870 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a tie. The buzzer sounded as Tyson was set to land an uppercut. In real life his uppercuts knocked out 200+ pound men. Little Ip Man would be killed.
@Egoblivion
@Egoblivion 4 жыл бұрын
"Movies are often romanticised versions of reality." Understatement thresholds exceeded. Cannot compute.
@richardzilla
@richardzilla 5 жыл бұрын
The way to fight Tyson? RUN FOREST, RUUUUUUN!!
@stevenedmund5680
@stevenedmund5680 6 жыл бұрын
Your voice and mannerism reminds me of Adam West...Batman. ,=)
@danielglidewell1565
@danielglidewell1565 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking agent smith
@stevenedmund5680
@stevenedmund5680 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Anderson.....we are willing to wipe the slate clean. give you a fresh start.
@MrRubydoobs
@MrRubydoobs 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking Hunter S.
@charliealder3522
@charliealder3522 6 жыл бұрын
Steven Edmund dude I've been thinking the same thing. I spat my coffee out laughing when I read this.
@stevenedmund5680
@stevenedmund5680 6 жыл бұрын
lol SOLID ,xD
@benbassist
@benbassist 5 жыл бұрын
10 minutes of “let’s be honest”. Lmao.
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t even need mike Tyson. Put him in there with Tommy Hearns in his prime. He fought around the 140 mark. Wouldn’t last 30 seconds.
@AllFlashNoDash
@AllFlashNoDash 4 жыл бұрын
Or Marvin Hagler
@ray.n_l
@ray.n_l 3 жыл бұрын
Hearns was a monster. His knockout power stayed alive through all 6 weight classes he conquered.
@johnlober2947
@johnlober2947 3 жыл бұрын
@@AllFlashNoDash or my 17 year old nephew who has been boxing for 4 years at 154lbs
@SINdaBlock411
@SINdaBlock411 4 ай бұрын
neither Tyson nor Hearns ever hospitalized 8 men at the same time
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 4 ай бұрын
@@SINdaBlock411 they could have easily, but the rules of boxing are in place to avoid it. In the boxing ring Ip loses, in the street he loses too.
@TheRTM
@TheRTM 5 жыл бұрын
This video gets a thumbs up because truer words have never been spoken.👍 All the guys Mike knocked out in the ring are thanking the gods that there were rules because if there wasn’t they’d all be dead or disfigured cripples!
@markasmaclean420
@markasmaclean420 5 жыл бұрын
“Martial arts is not magic” could’ve fooled me after i took my first leg kick
@nathrob2437
@nathrob2437 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but someone that has only ever watched and thinks they know, will never get the same result
@wesparsons5331
@wesparsons5331 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@zayatkinson7253
@zayatkinson7253 4 жыл бұрын
markas maclean true!!😂😂😂😂😂🤣
@jtdarelli1871
@jtdarelli1871 5 жыл бұрын
Was gonna throw in my 2 cents, but it's looking like pretty much everybody here has the right idea. RIP ip man
@buffoonustroglodytus4688
@buffoonustroglodytus4688 5 жыл бұрын
Ip man? More like RIP man
@jademermaidmusic
@jademermaidmusic 3 жыл бұрын
"He chewed a man's ear off with the rules"... that killed me
@BesterJediMeister
@BesterJediMeister 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm a Wing Chun practitioner/teacher and I say you are completely right. The world of traditional martial arts becomes something like a Disney-fairytale-dream-story. If someone really want to learn realistic self-defense or realistic fighting it's gonna be a hard work (translation for kung fu 😉) and a lot of pain. And someone who want's to learn the art of fighting, has to be ready to learn not only Wing Chun or some other Systems, he has to learn much more styles, technics, strategies etc. ...since three years I have to reduce my personal training from 6 days to 2 days to stay healthy, and today it's even really hard to teach students who are half as old as I be...and sometimes they challenge you in a friendly way.
@BesterJediMeister
@BesterJediMeister 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I forgot something. I think in former times Martial Arts are more more realistic than today, because they (mostly) were designed for battleground/battlefield fighting for life or something like this. Today...I think since modern weapon enters the world, martial arts become something like yoga or balett.
@BesterJediMeister
@BesterJediMeister 6 жыл бұрын
Miguel Garcia Rivera why not?
@theway8226
@theway8226 7 жыл бұрын
15:09, Exactly. you don't have to teach me how to push somebody. That's natural. It's true Mike Tyson is a boxer, but do you really think that's the only thing he is good at? NO!
@bri888
@bri888 7 жыл бұрын
Tyson. He's bigger, stronger and probably faster. Tyson can take Ipman's best shot. Can't say the same if it were the other way around. Also peek a boo is built for style's like wing chun.
@timothyfreeman97
@timothyfreeman97 7 жыл бұрын
Brian E William Cheung would say otherwise (referring to Peak-a-boo).
@DoubleBrew
@DoubleBrew 6 жыл бұрын
Dunno about him taking Ip Man's best shot, a running start flying jump kick to the face does damage even if you are 135 lbs... However I doubt very much that Tyson would let such an attack anywhere near him, and that Tyson would destroy Ip Man with discombobulatingly devastating force long before Ip Man managed to do any real damage.
@jlogan2228
@jlogan2228 6 жыл бұрын
David Bianco 1. Fight science actually showed the flashy jumping double kick isn't nearly as powerful it looks (prob bc you have nothing to push off from and are relying soley on momentum and fighting gravity) 2. You can see that coming a mile away if you're Mike's caliber and just dodge it
@Bill-zs3ry
@Bill-zs3ry 6 жыл бұрын
Idk why ppl assume Mike was a blundering brute with excellent genetics. His ring intelligence is among the best I've ever encountered, if not *the* best. Being 2nd only to Lomachenko. Hate casual fans!
@permanentlybored195
@permanentlybored195 6 жыл бұрын
@@timothyfreeman97 yeah he knocked a russian heavy weight boxer out with 3 punches through his block.
@commonsense3017
@commonsense3017 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone who has fought in amateur or professional bouts mma or boxing knows that Bruce Lee, Ip man, Jet Li, Jackie Chan, your mandarin teacher don’t possess magical abilities just because they’re Asian. They still have to obey the laws of physics. You made an interesting point. I’ve noticed a pattern that it’s usually skinny guys who have a thing against the portrayal of muscular fighters that tend to believe this nonsense. I think they look up to Bruce Lee and smaller “fighters” because they love that they can say size doesn’t matter in a fight. Well it does, especially when the big guy knows how to fight.
@DoubleBrew
@DoubleBrew 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, would like this video 10 times if I could. The number of people who have with a straight face told me that Tyson wouldn't stand a chance against Bruce Lee is staggering and frustrating.
@Fedorevsky
@Fedorevsky 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Tyson would have broken Bruce with one hit. No matter where he landed Bruce would be on the ground begging for mercy. Bruce Lee was not a fighter.
@Jamesfckoffscammers
@Jamesfckoffscammers 6 жыл бұрын
You guys are idiots, Bruce Lee is unbelievably fast and Mike Tyson wouldn't be able to land a punch. Not only was Bruce Lee extremely fast to the point that cameras couldn't keep up (thus he actually had to slow down for the cameras, cause even when set to slow motion he was still fast), he also had a lot of power (hell, he knocked the stuffing out of a decent sized punching bag.. in which case, do your fuckin research morons.. no, seriously, do your research, you can even start by looking up KZbin videos about him such as his 9 records that's still unbeaten, how fast he actually was (blink your eyes and you would fuckin miss it, because it literally looks like a flash when he kicks). he was known as the best that ever lived for a reason. But I guess it's easy enough for you to talk shit about a dead guy.
@ChimpRevolution
@ChimpRevolution 6 жыл бұрын
@@Jamesfckoffscammers dude he's not a super human calm down sure he was good but we are talking about iron Mike he was a monster in the ring also quick and 1 good punch is all he needs
@Jamesfckoffscammers
@Jamesfckoffscammers 6 жыл бұрын
@Get Banged dude, you're just another Jack ass that thinks starring in movies is all he ever did, so how bout you do your research before talking dumb shit. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j16cXp1_iaiAoqs
@Jamesfckoffscammers
@Jamesfckoffscammers 6 жыл бұрын
@@ChimpRevolution yeah but landing the punch or even a kick is key to knocking someone out, and anybody can be knocked out including Mike Tyson as well as Muhammad Ali. Bottom line is 'nobody" is invincible regardless of size, whereas "anybody" can be knocked out if hit on the chin or jaw just right (perhaps also other places of the head). Everyone is like "Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali could knock out Bruce Lee with one punch", well sure, if they can land the punch. At the same time people are also underestimating Bruce Lee, the same could go for if Bruce Lee lands a punch. Hell, he wasn't known as the world's greatest martial artist for nothing, and people trying to claim "he's just an actor", but the ones claiming that don't know what the heck they're talking about. And I'm not basing my knowledge of Bruce Lee on what I seen him do in movies, I have studied on him and I might not be an expert on Bruce Lee, but know enough to understand what he was capable of, which I never said he was Superman (nobody is). As for Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali, I know they're really good Boxers, they're top notch and without a doubt some of the best Boxers, but people still shouldn't downgrade Bruce Lee and put those two on a pedestal; for all they know it would likely be a good match up, with victory possibly going to either one.
@BellowDGaming
@BellowDGaming 6 жыл бұрын
I think the last sentence of this vid sums up the question "Take away the rules rules with Mike Tyson, with the rules he chew a man's ear off" yeah we all know who's gonna win.
@jonhammer1596
@jonhammer1596 5 жыл бұрын
Many can't appreciate what a pro boxer does in training every day . most can hit so hard and so fast then so many times its near unreal
@2adamast
@2adamast 5 жыл бұрын
Without gloves?
@Stolas9
@Stolas9 5 жыл бұрын
@@2adamast Yes.
@jasonluckett2263
@jasonluckett2263 4 жыл бұрын
We need to revisit the saying, "There's no such thing as a dumb question". There obviously is.
@interestingtopics419
@interestingtopics419 5 жыл бұрын
Ramsey Dewey usually people choose some disgusting words when they explain these kind of stuffs but you were pretty calm and very respectful that's why i am a great fan of you. your training in the beginning of this video was excellent
@philpowell9111
@philpowell9111 6 жыл бұрын
I used to boxe and to me it is fare more technical than any traditional martial arts!
@orencio1969
@orencio1969 5 жыл бұрын
depend my friend , getting kick across the kneee will slow your ass down
@baroneb5043
@baroneb5043 5 жыл бұрын
use to box tomatoes
@sokandueler9578
@sokandueler9578 5 жыл бұрын
Phil Powell I practiced karate when I was younger and studied several other styles growing up. In college, my friend who was a boxer in high school ran me through some of the combos and stances for boxing. It was a shock to me how deeply technical it is.
@danguillou713
@danguillou713 6 жыл бұрын
Good video. Agree with everything. One tiny disclaimer. Teeny tiny. I also enjoy Master Wong, and I distinctly remember seeing a video where he talks about and demonstrates how wing chuns limitations makes it particularily weak against boxing. Basically if you get in a fight with a boxer you should try something else (wrestling or even taichi) because the wing chun toolbox will not serve you. That’s how I remember it anyway. Cheers
@Skelemonyo
@Skelemonyo 7 ай бұрын
Usually these comparisons between traditional martial artists and Mike Tyson, it tends to turn into people trying to prove a person without any fight record can fight. I think people forget, you could be a good fighter and still get slaughtered by Mike Tyson. He was a world class athlete. Thankyou for giving Tyson his own credit.
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