You can't Reason with Them.

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Mike Johnson

Mike Johnson

Күн бұрын

Q Who?

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@bobpage6597
@bobpage6597 4 жыл бұрын
Chain of Command at work. Picard delegates to Worf, Worf delegates to nameless ensign who gets knocked across the room ahahha!
@thehantavirus
@thehantavirus 4 жыл бұрын
get rid of your most disposable.
@NealX_Gaming
@NealX_Gaming 4 жыл бұрын
And he was just fresh out of the academy too. Now he has a cave where his chest was. :(
@bobpage6597
@bobpage6597 4 жыл бұрын
@@NealX_Gaming I have to say, the Borg voice they used to have at 3:03 was pretty poor. They only had two people's voices working together to be the Borg. They picked it up much better in Best of Both Worlds and beyond to convey the idea of hundreds of thousands of voices speaking at once, as one.
@qetoun
@qetoun 2 жыл бұрын
Plenty more ensigns where that came from.
@blacksunapocalypse
@blacksunapocalypse 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this guy that's never been around before was just hanging in the back. You just KNOW he was gonna get fucked.
@michaeledmunds7056
@michaeledmunds7056 Жыл бұрын
Picard: "Mr Worf." Worf: "Ensign." Ensign: "I hate this job."
@kevhead1525
@kevhead1525 Жыл бұрын
Ensign looks for an underling. "Damn."
@delluminatis
@delluminatis Жыл бұрын
@@kevhead1525 Ensign: "Harry." (voyager)
@CCJJ160Channels
@CCJJ160Channels 9 ай бұрын
Ensign: “Computer, locate acting ensign Wesley Crusher.”
@SamuelBlack84
@SamuelBlack84 5 ай бұрын
Not wearing red anymore didn't help them
@sandorhartig3957
@sandorhartig3957 5 ай бұрын
Literaly😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@johnl1685
@johnl1685 Жыл бұрын
The BORG is still the best and scariest adversary the writers ever came up with and the immense cube vessel is terrifying.
@billybones6463
@billybones6463 Жыл бұрын
Best in all of Trek when they started, but a joke by the time their greater arc across multiple franchises ended...a shame Christopher Pine never was given a shot at them
@monaghana8088
@monaghana8088 Жыл бұрын
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@wanderingfido
@wanderingfido 10 ай бұрын
For a second I thought you ended with "the immense technological cult reference is terrifying.". Then I blinked. 🤭🤔
@aaronhemme8913
@aaronhemme8913 9 ай бұрын
Until Voyager cut off their cybernetic balls
@davidmacy411
@davidmacy411 8 ай бұрын
First Contact Borg are utterly terrifying. Prior to that their fear inducing nature was limited by tv budgets. Once they got the movie treatment, that cybernetic zombie aspect they got was enough to give you nightmares, especially since something like these Borg are far more likely to happen in real life than zombies.
@mrsnatural2368
@mrsnatural2368 2 жыл бұрын
I always get a laugh out of Q's total lack of respect for Picard's personal space
@justinvanhorne9958
@justinvanhorne9958 2 жыл бұрын
Most spend their whole lives trying to speak to or otherwise relate to a Q like entity. Picard wants nothing more than to swat his with a fly swatter, no wonder they hugged at the end of their journey.
@TheLocutus70
@TheLocutus70 2 жыл бұрын
Remember in Tapestry when he was in bed with Picard? 😂
@mrsnatural2368
@mrsnatural2368 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLocutus70 that bit was hilarious. I love how Picard was just resigned to it. Didn't even argue.
@cleanerben9636
@cleanerben9636 4 жыл бұрын
I like how the Borg turns to look at them after Worf's phaser does nothing.
@jrag1000
@jrag1000 2 жыл бұрын
Hmpf.
@sethwinslow
@sethwinslow 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t. I think a true Borg would have ignored them completely as irrelevant.
@missilemassacreonline
@missilemassacreonline Жыл бұрын
@@sethwinslow I thought the same but then I thought, maybe a Borg would look to gauge their reactions, that's important information about the species they plan to assimilate. How do they think? Would they resist further, or would they submit?
@slinkerdeer
@slinkerdeer Жыл бұрын
@@missilemassacreonline in this situation the borg are investigating a completely new technology to them. They aren't too much interested in the biological beings
@ILikeMyPrivacytbt
@ILikeMyPrivacytbt Жыл бұрын
I like how the Borg beam back the live crewman but only want specific components from the dead one. They could have beamed back both and done a more thorough recycle job of the dead one.
@Sealhunt
@Sealhunt 4 жыл бұрын
I always got a kick when the Borg drone intensified his disruptive scanning of the Enterprises systems after he turned to face the crowd, like he was saying, "you dare interfere?! This is your penance!"
@robjackson5245
@robjackson5245 3 жыл бұрын
Borg are based on the Lutheran Swedes, they don't say "penance". Nothing Roman about them, idiot. "You dare interfere?! That's what you get, scumbag."
@NTJedi
@NTJedi 2 жыл бұрын
Picard was always too trusting and friendly... in the real universe if such dangerous enemies existed Picard would never survive the first month.
@geonerd
@geonerd 4 жыл бұрын
"Locate the exact source of the tractor beam!" "Locked" "Fire!" (Misses by half a kilometer.) Looking surprised - "They still have us!"
@thehantavirus
@thehantavirus 4 жыл бұрын
federation sensors arnt very accurate, this includes thier targeting systems.
@Paul-A01
@Paul-A01 4 жыл бұрын
Fire exactly once, Mr Worf!
@geonerd
@geonerd 4 жыл бұрын
@C. Caner Telimenli It always amazes me how people leap to defend sloppy continuity in the production of movies, TV, etc.
@IN-tm8mw
@IN-tm8mw 2 жыл бұрын
@@thehantavirus They're accurate, But this is there first time encountering the Borg and don't have their ship schematics on file. Most ships, in ST follow a certain deign philosophy but the Borg has a completely alien design. Most likely, they tried targeting power sources until they finally just hit the emitter array.
@emilecharbonnet6474
@emilecharbonnet6474 Жыл бұрын
I like to think that they were aiming for the power source or mechanism of the tractor beam rather than the emitter. That would explain why they didn't shoot at the source of the green light.
@saturn580
@saturn580 2 жыл бұрын
Joke's on the Borg. They may have acquired tactical data, but they also downloaded Riker's holodeck logs. Since they share a hive mind, they've all seen it! 🤣
@jennih261
@jennih261 10 ай бұрын
they watchd enterprise?
@Chuck-PK
@Chuck-PK 2 жыл бұрын
Picard: "How do we reason with them..." Guinan: "You don't." Janeway: Reasons with them on a regular basis because reasons.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
came to make the same comment haha
@av799
@av799 Жыл бұрын
I would not necessarily call it reasoning, more like bartering or working against a common enemy.
@PerryWhyte
@PerryWhyte Жыл бұрын
Janeway doesn't reason, she demands. The Borg even say "State your demands" in Scorpion.
@Ramschat
@Ramschat Жыл бұрын
I mean, the Borg were, for the first time ever, threatened with total annihilation by a determined aggressor (8472). Even a hivemind will make an exception when the alternative is extinction.
@gophersmith
@gophersmith 8 ай бұрын
That's why I hated ST:Voyager. It was just an extended Kobayashi Maru, with the same solution Kirk came up with.
@ChadeGB
@ChadeGB 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this episode for the first time, so good, the Borg were so cold and callous, calculating and seemingly unstoppable. Gave me the shivers.
@thejamesasher
@thejamesasher 2 жыл бұрын
they remind me of an appraisal district
@uncletaylorify
@uncletaylorify 2 жыл бұрын
And then they got ruined on Voyager.
@emilecharbonnet6474
@emilecharbonnet6474 Жыл бұрын
Originally they were awesome, more like a bacteria or a virus. Emotionless and systematic. Got progressively ruined as new writers decided to mess with it. Remember First Contact? That was just bizarre.
@paulwiths
@paulwiths Жыл бұрын
yeah me too, no leader just an unstoppable mass. sadly they were over used later.
@ajsouza3720
@ajsouza3720 Жыл бұрын
Same, the way that they show how quickly the Borg adapt with no words is frightening.
@STOTTINMAD
@STOTTINMAD 2 жыл бұрын
My guy hops onto the ship, gets mildly inconvenienced, finishes the job and leaves. A true gentleman.
@laz7354
@laz7354 2 жыл бұрын
That physical model Borg vessel was imposing, and amazing.
@captainkirk4519
@captainkirk4519 2 жыл бұрын
One of the all time great episodes across any Star Trek series. Fantastic writing and acting.
@Krypton853
@Krypton853 Жыл бұрын
How would you handle the Borg?
@seanrosenau2088
@seanrosenau2088 Жыл бұрын
Excellent music in this episode too, chilling.
@guillermoelnino
@guillermoelnino Жыл бұрын
That was the most polite encounter with an intruder I've ever seen.
@Mike-jl2kp
@Mike-jl2kp Жыл бұрын
Picard "Mr Worf, please neutralise the dangerous intruder" Worf sends in the nameless yellow shirt
@ryang2573
@ryang2573 2 жыл бұрын
Man, anyone else remember the time before Voyager when the Borg were legitimately terrifying? The Borg shown in TNG (not counting the movies) were almost like some cosmic horror straight out of HP Lovecraft. They would show up in the skies over worlds, excise whatever people or technologies drew them there, and move on. They could not be bargained with, or persuaded, or intimidated. Just like with the drone shown in this episode, even if you somehow stopped them, it would only be a temporary reprieve because they would send more ships that had counters for whatever you used to stop the previous attempt. Moreover though, they were something that was a rarity in Star Trek as a whole: a species that was truly _alien_ . All the rubber forehead aliens in show were essentially just humans with different cultures and maybe certain behavioral traits amplified. We, as an audience, could still relate to them though. But the Borg were something different. They were a hive mind: vast, unknowable, and with motivations so inscrutable that we could only guess at them. That was, until the writer's decided to create the character of the Borg Queen. Giving the Borg a 'face' with the Borg Queen was completely asinine. With that one move, everything I just described vanished. The Borg just became yet another rubber forehead alien race that happened to be powerful. The Queen had emotions, could hold grudges, acted arbitrarily, and had all the foibles a single person would have. Any sense of an 'unknowably vast consciousness' was destroyed. The Borg just became a bunch of cybernetic robots obeying the dictates of some petty tyrant of a woman.
@Mike.Knight69
@Mike.Knight69 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the very same but with an origin story of a science project gone wrong and took over the original race and tech and kept taking over the surrounding planets and systems and so on
@trancendental5373
@trancendental5373 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Borg queen was initially cool but she keeps getting watered down. Let's face it, the Borg are cool but they're essentially cybernetic bees.
@phillippi2
@phillippi2 2 жыл бұрын
When the Borg were first introduced in Voyager, the were also quite terrifying. The reason that they lost that feeling was due to Species 8472 and, the lead up to Voyager's pact with the Borg. Besides, we tend to get less and less afraid of things as time goes on.
@NTJedi
@NTJedi 2 жыл бұрын
@@phillippi2 We tend to get less and less afraid of things as time goes on.... if the writer fails to maintain the dangerous fear. If it's a good writer then the writer would be able to make something more terrifying as time goes on.
@ClaimClam
@ClaimClam 2 жыл бұрын
NGL THE QUEEN WAS DOPE AF
@IronFanJoe
@IronFanJoe 3 ай бұрын
"Warp 8, any heading!" *Wesley crashes into the cube* "Any heading *except* forwards!"
@sammencia7945
@sammencia7945 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best villains in all if sci-fi. Just an outstanding idea.
@theterminaldave
@theterminaldave Жыл бұрын
They just leave Ghinan in the conference room, like "Uh guys do you want me to come with you or...?"
@James-nl6fu
@James-nl6fu Жыл бұрын
The best and most frightening Borg moves but doesn't react an "identity.The humanity isn't suppressed, it's dead
@nannunbgd
@nannunbgd Жыл бұрын
I love how they stay and talk on table,when Enterprise stay in front with borg cube,and nothing happen. Borg waithing them to end table metting. :D
@ArK047
@ArK047 4 жыл бұрын
The dead drone left a stain on the carpet, gross.
@phoenixman8569
@phoenixman8569 4 жыл бұрын
PICARD: MR Data activate carpet cleaning protocol. MR Data: Captain, which room fragrant should I use, potpourri perhaps????
@tastenheber
@tastenheber 4 жыл бұрын
Housekeeping will take care of it.
@geonerd
@geonerd 4 жыл бұрын
How rude!
@markschmitz5038
@markschmitz5038 4 жыл бұрын
Big stink imprint!
@rotyler2177
@rotyler2177 4 жыл бұрын
'The Borg will pay for this!'
@PassportBrosBusinessClass
@PassportBrosBusinessClass 4 жыл бұрын
Picard speeches don’t work on the Borg.
@TheGamerUnknown
@TheGamerUnknown 4 жыл бұрын
That's part of why they were so terrifying. They could never be reasoned with, and TNG was all about using reason to get out of bad situations.
@doublebanana-de3dt
@doublebanana-de3dt Жыл бұрын
My goodness. Even watching this back years on from when I first saw it and acknowledging the depiction of the Borg evolves through this and other Trek series, its spine chilling. A triumph of storytelling.
@healthandsurvival4461
@healthandsurvival4461 Жыл бұрын
I love how the borg stare at them as they start to engage their computer system.
@Cujo5
@Cujo5 4 жыл бұрын
"Terminate that beam. Fire when rea-" Awww, I was getting into that!
@alexbaxthedarkside
@alexbaxthedarkside Жыл бұрын
4:26 The Borg helping themselves to a triple decker sandwich from the saucer section XD
@charlesajones77
@charlesajones77 6 ай бұрын
"They don't have a single leader" Ah yes, that'll be the first thing we ret-con.
@Kfend72638
@Kfend72638 Ай бұрын
Yep
@tonydormand8227
@tonydormand8227 11 ай бұрын
I remember watching this for the first time back in 1991 on BBC 2 and at the end of it I thought wow, what a good episode.
@blackman5881
@blackman5881 2 жыл бұрын
Whats ingenious is the writers made it so that the borg wasn't completely invulnerable.
@fragglet
@fragglet 6 ай бұрын
The slow knife penetrates the shield, Mr. Worf
@SP-ny1fk
@SP-ny1fk 2 жыл бұрын
Everything in the show's universe is symbolic for something in our own universe.
@MANABEANS_YOUTUBE
@MANABEANS_YOUTUBE 2 жыл бұрын
Q years later: "Do NOT provoke the Borg!!"
@pyrotechnick420
@pyrotechnick420 2 жыл бұрын
I bet John Delancey had a lot of fun playing Q
@jayluck8047
@jayluck8047 4 жыл бұрын
"Mr. Worf! Use whatever means to neutralize the intruder." "A simple "Kill Him", would have sufficed Captain. Grandstander..." "Oh, screw you Michael! You just won't let it go, will you?!"
@logicphile6207
@logicphile6207 2 жыл бұрын
What is being referred to here
@masere
@masere Жыл бұрын
​@Logicphile The "sufficed" line is referencing dialogue between Picard and Riker from the TNG episode Contagion. The "screw you Michael" is from the Family Guy episode Not All Dogs Go To Heaven, where Stewie builds a transporter and beams the TNG cast from a convention.
@tba113
@tba113 10 ай бұрын
Worf: "A type of laser beam is slicing into the saucer section!" Riker: _"Lasers?_ They shouldn't even get through our navigational deflector!"
@Trakker1985
@Trakker1985 2 жыл бұрын
- shoot the source of the tractor beam! - shoots easily 500 meters below where the beam is coming from
@NealX_Gaming
@NealX_Gaming 4 жыл бұрын
1:15 "Bitch, please."
@daviddavies3637
@daviddavies3637 2 жыл бұрын
"They don't do things piecemeal. When they come, they'll come in force." And yet, twice they invade Federation space with a single ship. Writers needed to pay more attention.
@robertstevenson5145
@robertstevenson5145 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I wondered about that two and also why does the borg need to travel back in time to beat startfleet,lol.I think the problem with the borg was the writers made them powerful but gave them a small weakness to give starfleet a chance to make the story Interesting.The borg should of been more on the level of above the minor races to be bothered or strong enough to be a tough fight and still keep the assimilation and limited adaptive capability.Say to where it took multiple phasers from 2 to 4 people to take them down.
@daviddavies3637
@daviddavies3637 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertstevenson5145 Good point on the last. It would have made more sense if the borg had a weakness whereby they couldn't adapt to phaser frequencies quickly enough. Starfleet personnel could get a few shots off before they adapted, but sometimes changing the phaser frequency gave them additional shots. So, two phasers being fired at different frequencies might give them more shots. Once they adapted to that, add a third at a different frequency. Eventually, the Borg wouldn't be able to switch frequency adaptation quickly enough so phaser fire would get through. Unfortunately, writers tend to get stuck with an idea and don't completely follow through. I'd be great at CinemaSins.
@smv4usa
@smv4usa 2 жыл бұрын
@@daviddavies3637 Well, multiple sources indicate they can't adapt to melee or projectile attacks, yet Starfleet never capitalizes on this, except for Picard in First Contact.
@mr.hawklingiii8739
@mr.hawklingiii8739 2 жыл бұрын
A Borg cube contains MILLIONS of drones
@Dave-sk9mn
@Dave-sk9mn 2 жыл бұрын
the argument here is incorrect, the Borg see a civilisation as being worth assimilation they're going to send a Cube to both assess and try and assimilate, but if they fail they've gained the knowledge they need to try again, and again, and again if they so choose. They don't need to send a thousand cubes, eventually they'll overwhelm you and they'll assimilate you, and you'll become a launching platform for your region of the Galaxy to send out more Cubes elsewhere. When Guinen says they won't do it piecemeal she's not talking thousands of cubes, she's saying if they want you, they'll send a few hundred Drones at once and you're done as the Borg are relentless.
@robertstevenson5145
@robertstevenson5145 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why Picard is given so much props...He's told to head back he stays and hangs around.Was told hey these guys destroyed my people and he let's the borg make all the first moves.Then when he had a clear advantage to destroy the threat knowing how dangerous they was he decides to have a field trip.Picard in another encounter waits until his shields are drained dry before acting.Im sorry picard should be an ambassador planetside or only a starship captain on a science vessel.
@moabman6803
@moabman6803 2 жыл бұрын
The diference between Kirk and Picard.
@robertstevenson5145
@robertstevenson5145 2 жыл бұрын
@Moabman there was only 1 time I had an issue with kirk.If I was an admiral I would of punished him for this.I forget which episode but the ship was being pulled down to the planet.Scotty did everything he could and kirk wasn't able to do anything on his end yet moments before the ship would be destroyed and everyone on the ship would die....he fires Mr scott??..Wtf kind of jerk move is that to the guy that saved many a bacon.
@NTJedi
@NTJedi 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertstevenson5145 I originally thought Picard was only the introduction captain and Riker would soon become captain.... since Picard was so old and Riker would logically be able to do more movies and sequels. Picard was far too trusting and friendly... overall personality of Picard was never admired by men or women.
@nishihundan1257
@nishihundan1257 2 жыл бұрын
@@NTJedi Riker was a fat p*ssy. He moved like a bloated gimp. He was never captain material.
@NTJedi
@NTJedi 2 жыл бұрын
@@nishihundan1257 If Picard was in his 30s or 40s and not so overly friendly then Picard would have been good. Unfortunately Picard was the age of most great grandpas and he was way too friendly with dangerous encounters. Of course he's better than the woke feminists flying as captains today.
@christopherrobinson3857
@christopherrobinson3857 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the first time they dropped they're misson statement they simply said the Enterprise couldn't resist and that resistence, despite the warning, would be met with punishment. Later, it turned into the mission statement we all recognize.
@maxbaugh9372
@maxbaugh9372 Жыл бұрын
"How do we tell them we're not a threat?" That's the problem: you're not!
@luthermcgee3767
@luthermcgee3767 Жыл бұрын
I've admired the BORG since this episode was first aired- the attachments, even with phasers at maximum setting it only neutralized the scout, when it shouldve vaporized it. And personal shield generators? even the shields- never saw shields that were geometric in shape.
@StarlancerAstro
@StarlancerAstro 2 жыл бұрын
Pfffff..... they're carving us up like a roast. lol what a line.
@mikevanroy9356
@mikevanroy9356 Жыл бұрын
He's probably ate holodeck meals his whole life.
@captainyossarian388
@captainyossarian388 2 жыл бұрын
1:17 I recall first watching this and that cold stare making the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end. Jeesh, it still does.
@thedarkknight9153
@thedarkknight9153 2 жыл бұрын
4:38 Good use of alliteration, Warf. 👍🏼
@joemay2640
@joemay2640 2 жыл бұрын
Love when picard in later episodes uses a weapon that constantly jumps frequencies so the borg can't adapt yes definitely going to watch all episodes again when I'm finnished doing the same with red dwarf.
@richv8124
@richv8124 2 жыл бұрын
Red Dwarf was my favorite. I was crushed when it wasn't renewed. So much potential.
@slavaukraini1991
@slavaukraini1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@richv8124 it should have been canned before series 7 aired
@billybegood466
@billybegood466 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was funny that the second Borg pulled out what I'm assuming were critical components from the dead one, and then they just transport them both out anyway.
@robjackson5245
@robjackson5245 Жыл бұрын
This is sort of why I disagree that the Borg don't have feelings in "TNG." People forgot they're not cyborgs but humanoids with prosthetics. The Collective itself is an allegory for "Friends"-watching Allied Nordicist Yankee "Seinfeld"-haters. They dispose the individual and its about the bigger whole but it's more in an arrogant and sinister way. Mind you Denmark, Sweden are Nordic but Russia, also Nordic, is a darker mirror of what those countries could have been (not that they arent bigoted "Friends"-loving Allied Nordicist Yankees to begin with but they're aren't totalitarian like Russia; culturally Russia is like Sweden, Denmark, Spain, all Nordic, they're just not Western). The USSR and even Russia today disposes the individual without remorse, all for the larger state.
@robjackson5245
@robjackson5245 Жыл бұрын
That is of course until they decided to make them space zombies in "First Contact" and "Voyager."
@jonathansotelo4877
@jonathansotelo4877 Жыл бұрын
It's odd because sometimes they suggest the Borg in some episodes just disintegrate their dead, and other times they suggest they recover them to try to put them back together or salvage.
@antbojo
@antbojo Жыл бұрын
I believe the borg on the ground disintegrated, rather than transported. You don't see the same green lights of the borg transporter on him.
@robjackson5245
@robjackson5245 Жыл бұрын
@@antbojo you kind of could see it though a little
@mrgrumpy888
@mrgrumpy888 Жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: This episode is the only time when the borg seemed like a legitimately horrifying enemy. Cold, calculating, completely alien. The moment that they gave them a voice and special avatars (i.e. The Queen, Locutus) they were kinda ruined.
@ILikeMyPrivacytbt
@ILikeMyPrivacytbt Жыл бұрын
I don't know, Patrick Stewart was pretty menacing as a Borg. I think it was when the Borg started losing for stupid reasons like not bringing enough ships to conquer a species that they stopped being a threat and we stopped taking them seriously.
@cetialpha-vi
@cetialpha-vi Жыл бұрын
@@ILikeMyPrivacytbtI think the temptation to use the Borg was just too high with their popularity for the executives to ignore. But they didn’t realize that every time they used them, obviously the main characters would have to beat them because otherwise *poof* no more show. Let’s be real, had the Borg ever sent more than 1 ship to any of their earth assimilation attempts, they would easily win. My only idea is that Q silently manipulated the Collective to give the federation a fighting chance. It’s the only thing that makes sense in my mind.
@hansolo631
@hansolo631 Жыл бұрын
@@cetialpha-vi I didn't mind them sending 1 ship the first time, it was clearly more than enough except for deus ex plot armour, and maybe it was one that had been traveling/scouting for some time. But once we saw in Voyager that they have hundreds of thousands of cubes, and can cross the galaxy at will, it indeed becomes silly that they'd keep sending one.
@Archedgar
@Archedgar Жыл бұрын
Nah. Best of Both Worlds was still legit terrifying.
@cetialpha-vi
@cetialpha-vi Жыл бұрын
@@hansolo631 I can agree with that, at least the FIRST time. I really sorta wish there had been a more permanent solution to the Borg threat after BoBW, some kind of justification for *why* they don’t return again until First Contact with a wacky convoluted time travel plan when all they need to do is just up the number of cubes they send by 1 every time until they succeed 😂
@BigNoseDog
@BigNoseDog 2 жыл бұрын
Worf, the most incompetent security chief in Starfleet. First, he allows captain to enter engineering without securing the area first. Second, after witnessing the intruder produce what could be a weapon, Worf doesn’t get the captain to a safe location.
@blockmasterscott
@blockmasterscott Жыл бұрын
Finally someone else besides me notices this, thank you!
@nrXic
@nrXic Жыл бұрын
Yeah but that was his first year on the job
@robjackson5245
@robjackson5245 Жыл бұрын
That's because the Borg were not posing a direct threat to them yet. They were just examining and surveying the ship like the Swedes did to the lands in both North America and Sweden before hoards of those "Friends"-watching Allied Nordicist Yankee "Seinfeld"-haters came and conquered the native people
@robjackson5245
@robjackson5245 Жыл бұрын
Remember what Guinan says, "They don't do that individually. That's not their way. When they decide to come, they're gonna come in force. They don't do anything piece meal." Geordi was far from incompetent. The situation was confusing to the crew. They never dealt with an enemy like the Borg before. Although they weren't dumb - Data instantly knew they were a collective species and that's why individual life was not found by the censors.
@captgeesh5163
@captgeesh5163 2 жыл бұрын
You like how worf totally passes the buck on Picard's command?
@NTJedi
@NTJedi 2 жыл бұрын
If this was happening on my ship.... and Picard, Worf and others allowed the enemy to do all these things.... I would have dumped them into space with the rest of the garbage.
@Nufc_grb
@Nufc_grb 4 жыл бұрын
Well thats going to stain the carpet.
@SheldonAdama17
@SheldonAdama17 2 жыл бұрын
2:30 “So they’ll never send one cube at a time towards Earth?” “No, of course not.”
@Zhortac
@Zhortac 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf, one cube was far more then enough. Starfleet literally got lucky in both encounters, because of Picard.
@wayne3302264
@wayne3302264 2 жыл бұрын
I am reminded of the comic book story of Superman vs Alien in which Superman attempted to talk and reason with the Xenomorphs. As you can imagine that did not go well......lol
@wayne3302264
@wayne3302264 2 жыл бұрын
If you have not read the book before you go saying the Xeno's would not stand a chance against Superman bear in mind you are correct with a yellow star but they were in, I believe, a green star system and Superman's power was very limited.
@Ben82077
@Ben82077 2 жыл бұрын
Worf: Captain. The Borg has locked onto us with a tractor beam. Picard: We’re on our way! Guinan: …😐…I guess I’ll just stay here.
@ManuelJordan317
@ManuelJordan317 Жыл бұрын
It is the main reason to watch Q in action in this TV serie - he introduced the borg to the fleet before of the correct time ...
@alexpowers5117
@alexpowers5117 Жыл бұрын
They should let the avengers handle this these guys love cubes they even get back in time to get the cube such dedication
@oliverallen5324
@oliverallen5324 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Klingons never used firearms. Shields sound real nice until you've got slugs flying at you.
@jrag1000
@jrag1000 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, fight hand to hand if you have to!
@ILikeMyPrivacytbt
@ILikeMyPrivacytbt Жыл бұрын
Slug throwers are a terrible idea on a SPACE ship, there's concern about decompression and damage to vital systems, let alone shrapnel from missed rounds. Plasma weapons are just hot gas, I imagine the ship's internal structure is a little resilient to hot gas. Besides, I'm sure the Borg can adapt shields to fast moving projectiles. "Babylon 5" made this argument.
@BellaTech_Lestrange
@BellaTech_Lestrange Жыл бұрын
Capt. Picard: How do we reason with them, let them know that we're not a threat? Guinan: You don't. At least, I've never known anyone who did *Janeway has entered the chat*
@l.salisbury1253
@l.salisbury1253 Жыл бұрын
TREKKIES: Read the under-rated TGN/Borg graphic novel "Assimilation2"! Trust me: this is a Trek story that should have been written a LONG time ago!!
@rogersneed
@rogersneed 9 ай бұрын
"They don't do anything piecemeal." Proceeds to send only ONE cube to Earth...twice.
@Rorschachqp
@Rorschachqp 2 ай бұрын
The old Borg where their scariness is based on metal boxes swinging back and forth on their arms. Looks like a 50s-style robot arm.
@beyerch
@beyerch 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when this aired originally. Freaked me the f*ck out.
@THEMathHacker-121
@THEMathHacker-121 Жыл бұрын
0:25 impressive throw over the captain
@Onewayto2024
@Onewayto2024 2 ай бұрын
3:33 “A single leader can make miatakes” I’m surprised Picard didn’t say “Ohhh, so you’re saying I make mistakes!!!???”
@thegoodsun4450
@thegoodsun4450 5 ай бұрын
“It doesn’t feel pity, remorse or pain and it will not stop until you are assimilated”
@halleck3
@halleck3 4 жыл бұрын
1:16 "How do you like them apples?"
@mirroredchaos
@mirroredchaos 4 жыл бұрын
you cant reason with them. voyager would have a lot more fans if they didn't violate this.
@thepartydontstoptilliwalkin
@thepartydontstoptilliwalkin 2 жыл бұрын
"They don't have a single leader". "A single leader can make mistakes" That too.
@blastermasterguy
@blastermasterguy 2 жыл бұрын
You can't reason with them unless they WANT to reason with you. The Borg ended up invading another dimension and PISSED OFF an entire species which then did it's damn best to KILL every last single Borg in the Galaxy. As a result the Queen probably assessed they needed an expendable asset to fight the battle for them and sadly Captain Insaneway never once questioned the Borg let alone suspected Voyager was being used in a war that the Borg started.
@heretic5116
@heretic5116 2 жыл бұрын
Voyagers borg episodes knock this into fits
@spark300c
@spark300c 2 жыл бұрын
well first contact did it first with having single leader.
@joshuariddensdale2126
@joshuariddensdale2126 15 күн бұрын
When the Borg were first introduced, they were a terrifying new threat. Eradicating entire worlds after taking all their technology, and any weapon or defense thrown against them only works once and then they adapt to it. "How do we reason with them? Let them know we're not a threat?" "You don't. At least, I've never known anyone who has". "When they come, they come in force. They don't do anything piecemeal" Yet twice, they only send a single ship. And Voyager completely watered them down.
@imonlyamanandiwilldiesomed4406
@imonlyamanandiwilldiesomed4406 4 жыл бұрын
You can't reason with them? Voyager proved otherwise.
@sgtpaloogoo2811
@sgtpaloogoo2811 2 жыл бұрын
Always a first I guess.
@fakereality96
@fakereality96 2 ай бұрын
But do they feel pity, remorse, or fear? And when will they stop, if ever? 🤔
@mikepen918
@mikepen918 Жыл бұрын
4:01 "if they pull down our shields we're helpless" - as if the captain didn't know that!
@PatrickWilliamsI
@PatrickWilliamsI 4 ай бұрын
That information was for the audience, like an "aside" in a play.
@Wi-Fi-El
@Wi-Fi-El 6 ай бұрын
Picard: Mr Worf Worf: Ensign Ensign: Wesley Picard: then it's settled, get Wesley down here
@marcrob100
@marcrob100 2 жыл бұрын
The way they just stand next to each other and talk about an alien across the room who is damaging the ship. Makes me think the writers and director were smoking something.
@NTJedi
@NTJedi 2 жыл бұрын
Picard was always too trusting and too friendly.... it's like he had no balls. Guinan even warned them about how the Borg annihilated many of their cities.... yet Picard is treating the Borg like some lost puppy.
@Ben82077
@Ben82077 2 жыл бұрын
Picard: Mr Worf. Worf: Ensign. Ensign: (turns to ask someone else): Damn!
@rickenbastard4668
@rickenbastard4668 10 ай бұрын
0:51 The first time TNG killed Data. Apperently the show thought Brent Spiner was so good at playing machine characters that "He will make an excellent drone"
@Chrisc2024
@Chrisc2024 2 жыл бұрын
I like how Star destiny timelinee book series displayed the borg invasion.
@EvilXero359
@EvilXero359 8 ай бұрын
Sounds almost Terminator like with John Carpenter's The Thing added to it. Most of the time the borg cannot be bargined with, nor reasoned with nor compromised with. They just advance on anything and everything and either assimilate or destroy whatever gets in their way. Makes one wonder if any of the Star Trek actors ever watched Carpenter's The Thing
@michellevey9608
@michellevey9608 Жыл бұрын
This could be THE episode in all Trek.
@ddmck1972
@ddmck1972 2 жыл бұрын
Worf can't even aim at the beam's source after Picard orders him to do so.
@gophersmith
@gophersmith 8 ай бұрын
3:52 Guinan: "We're dead."
@lungfish
@lungfish 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Worf bravely sending the ensign in to fight him
@ducknorris233
@ducknorris233 Жыл бұрын
What would you call a buffet that only caters to Borg?
@14arma
@14arma 2 жыл бұрын
Why did the 2nd robot scavenge the 1st for parts if they were both going to be beamed back to their mothership anyways?
@NTJedi
@NTJedi 2 жыл бұрын
They're worth lots of credits on the universal black market
@14arma
@14arma 2 жыл бұрын
@@NTJedi lmao, a million spacebucks?
@scottgauley7722
@scottgauley7722 Жыл бұрын
He's not scavenging him for parts, he's separating him from the group consciousness. In effect, killing him. Later on they'll strip him for components.
@TheShadowForgeStudio
@TheShadowForgeStudio Жыл бұрын
I think the other one disintegrates
@BleakVision
@BleakVision 25 күн бұрын
Nobody ever comments about how absurd it is for the command crew to sit down in the conference room, while the Borg cube is right on top of them.
@Alex-xh9kv
@Alex-xh9kv Жыл бұрын
There appears to be a 🚽 in the slice the Borg sucked up from the Enterprise. I'd hate to be on can at that very moment.
@carlosmacmartin4205
@carlosmacmartin4205 3 ай бұрын
"Resistance is futile." 😂
@violinstar5948
@violinstar5948 Жыл бұрын
I love the classic Borg look
@illuminatus3125
@illuminatus3125 9 ай бұрын
Picard shoulda just been like "Mr. Worf, grab your battleth." They might have shields against phasers, but ain't no shield against gettin' your head chopped off by an angry Klingon.
@kardd41
@kardd41 Жыл бұрын
Unstoppable aliens board the ship and download God know how much tactical information, let’s have a meeting 😂
@thenderson5509
@thenderson5509 2 сағат бұрын
The Borg are like futuristic Democrats.
@ckok7792
@ckok7792 9 ай бұрын
Did the one borg leave a stain on the carpet
@MrStevemur
@MrStevemur 7 күн бұрын
Canadian watching this days after Trump told us that if we retaliate to his tariffs he’ll increase them.
@Mrz-sb1hw
@Mrz-sb1hw 8 ай бұрын
Picard will steal the Borg's hair.
@MichaelM-ik7nz
@MichaelM-ik7nz 2 жыл бұрын
My main strategy would always be flying away with maximum warp.
@K4n01
@K4n01 Жыл бұрын
I never understood why the borg didn't "swarm" into the solar system
@zcorpalpha2462
@zcorpalpha2462 Жыл бұрын
Cautious
@michellebrown4903
@michellebrown4903 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Worf, .....Ensign .... Chief....Crewman ...
@stevea3149
@stevea3149 2 жыл бұрын
…cadet… recruit… citizen… student… child…
@dbentertainment9148
@dbentertainment9148 Жыл бұрын
Word basically just stands there. One thing he could have done is destroy the console the Borg was using to make it useless when weapons against the Borg was ineffective.
@sproge2142
@sproge2142 8 ай бұрын
"the borg never do anything piecemeal" The borg then not only once, but twice, send a single cube to earth 😂 just a little funny bit in hindsight, when this was filmed the writers hadn't fleshed out the details of the both yet, that's why we see nothing about assimilating people etc, fun bit of trivia.
@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022
@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022 6 ай бұрын
At 0:24 isn't that Borg data? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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