180 Degree shutter rule (fps and shutter speed) in videography

[@elenakittycat9649]

I've watched so many videos where they explained this rule but could never remember it because I didn't understand why. Now it's all clear and I'll never forget! Thank you, Mike!

[@mikesphotography]

That's great to hear Elena! I'm so glad I've been able to help. 😁 Thanks for watching 👍

[@gnetahnjehman4928]

Excellent work. Very well presented. Clear and concise. Thank you.

[@mikesphotography]

Thanks very much! 😁👍

[@stephenwoodburn2970]

Great video, Mike. That very simplistic graphic with the half spinning wheel was a great visual learning graphic. I started using the 180 degree rule on time-lapses, per your suggestion a while back. That has really made a difference. I never really considered it before, because I was only taking stills and not considering that my end-state was a short video. Keep up the great work, brother.

[@mikesphotography]

Thanks so much dude!! That is pretty much the extent of my after effects skills!! 😆 It definitely does help with timelpases, it’s just a case of getting the right interval for the subject you’re photographing. 👍 As always, thanks for watching! 😁

[@james56k]

Incredibly useful content. Thanks Mike!

[@mikesphotography]

Glad you think so James! 😁👍

[@SethHalstead]

Awesome video. When I saw the title I wasn't sure what it was about but I knew if you spent the time to make the video I probably wanted to see it, and I was right. Thanks for the great video tutorials!

[@mikesphotography]

Thanks so much Seth!! This one is well worth knowing. I try and stick to it as much as possible...but its a great little trick if your shoot action, to spice it up a little, or if you want it to be more mellow, to make sure you follow this rule. Thanks for watching dude 👍

[@ianloe4423]

This is amazing. Super informative, brief, useful, and smart. Great job and thanks so much!!

[@mikesphotography]

Thanks so much Ian!! 😁👍

[@SamDurber88]

Thanks for sharing this. I’m currently exploring shutter speed and will look forward to trying some different camera settings. Interesting video.

[@mikesphotography]

Thanks so much Sam! It is a really interesting topic and there are some fantastic videos on here from the history channel as well as other sources talking about the history of shutter speed (shutter angle). Thanks for watching. 👍

[@styflymalaysia]

Awesome.. ur video always.. easy to understand

[@mikesphotography]

Thanks! That’s great to know!! Thanks for watching!! 😁👍

[@ViktorKotschy]

WOW! This was a very interesting one! Thank you Mike!

[@mikesphotography]

No worries Viktor, it’s definitely interesting, and well worth watching the history of frame rates video I linked to as well!! Lots more info in that video! 😁👍

[@drumvannelle69]

This was very shot but very informative for a subject that i did not know anything about 👍👍👍

[@mikesphotography]

Short and sweet!! 😆👍 thanks Sherif!! 👍👍

[@adeypoos]

It seems to me that 1/50 sec is a bit of a sweet spot for video because not only do you get the "cinematic" look you mention, but you minimise the chance of any banding in the video because of its link with an AC current of 50 Hz here in the UK.

[@mikesphotography]

Exactly!! Thats why it’s always good to shoot at 25fps in the UK and not in the ntsc setting of 30fps. 👍

[@johnlajoie1064]

very good a faithful follower from australia

[@mikesphotography]

Thanks so much John! Good to have you around!! Where in Oz are you based?

[@photoindian5966]

Super sir... 📸🎞️🎥

[@mikesphotography]

Thank you!! 😁👍

[@inthevortexphotography5520]

Also very actual for drone videos, to achieve a smooth video.

[@mikesphotography]

That is a good point! I’ve had some unusable footage from my drone...if I had attached an Nd filter to follow this rule, it would have given me good footage. 👍

[@Capecobra1000]

Good Video. Thanks so much.

[@mikesphotography]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@Capecobra1000]

@@mikesphotography Most welcome❤

[@behnambagherzadeh6773]

Short and very useful

[@mikesphotography]

Thanks so much Behnam! 😁👍

[@DN-lifestoriescaptured]

Just what I needed to help me!! Thank you :)

[@mikesphotography]

Excellent!! I’m glad I could help Darren! 😁👍

[@MaraldBes]

Great video Mike. Quick question, I'm from a PAL country (NL) but will be shooting a video in the USA in a while. The end result will be shown in Europe / internet. I think I should go with PAL 25 / 50 / 100 fps and avoid flickering lights (as I will be shooting mainly outdoors that won't be a big problem) or shoot in NTSC 24 / 30 / 60 / 120 and won't be able to show it on projector / TV screen in Europe but only use it on a computer. I like the more filmic look of 25 fps s 29,97 fps but 120 fps is 20% extra slowmotion on the other end. 24 fps is only an option in NTSC and can't be exactly 180 degree matched by the 1/50 shutter but 30 fps will cause extra crop in 4k with my sony camera. What are your thoughts on this? Shoot NTSC in NTSC country, and convert if necessary or shoot in PAL if PAL is used where the video will be used?

[@mikesphotography]

Hey Marald, As long as you’re not going to be shooting under any fluorescents or any cheap LEDs you should be good in the PAL setting, especially as you’ll be showing it in a PAL area. That’s what I’d do. Thanks for watching! 👍

[@VitaminVS]

Very informative :)

[@mikesphotography]

Thanks dude!!

[@TheMicroGhost]

Very interesting!

[@mikesphotography]

Thanks!! 😁👍

[@geonerd]

Why not go with even longer / slower shutter times? Shooting 30FPS, set shutter to 1/45. 60 FPS, set it to 1/75 or 1/80.

[@mikesphotography]

You can but when you drag the shutter out too long, the motion blur starts to look a little weird...too much blur...

[@Noealz]

sometimes I need a refesher on these kinda things

[@mikesphotography]

Haha! It’s always good to top the memory banks!! 😁👍 Thanks for watching dude!

[@filmingstorm8760]

Sir how can I use this rule without a nd filter

[@mikesphotography]

The only way you can do that is to film at dawn or dusk. It is definitely worth getting an ND filter when you can as it really does help. 👍

[@filmingstorm8760]

@@mikesphotography thanks for the information sir

[@nagavamsiy767]

Can we control shutter speed in video mode in android flagship smartphones like note 20 ultra

[@mikesphotography]

I'm not sure, I don't have the Note 20 ultra. Sorry I couldn't help

[@nagavamsiy767]

@@mikesphotography Or any flagship android phones ?

[@syntom1]

So, there is no danger to the camera from the sun?

[@mikesphotography]

It's ok in the sun for short periods of time but I wouldn't leave it in the sun for more than 20 minutes or so...and even then, I'd cover it with a white cloth so there's no direct sunlight on it.

[@zimonslot]

1/5 is not half a second.... 1/2 is half a second.

[@mikesphotography]

Thanks for your feedback.

[@AngelusHD]

Now i'm confused, 1/200th...... 1/5th of a second or neither 1/2th of a second is a half second.. 0.5'' is a half second. just like 1'' is a whole second in camera. what is it :) (0.5'')

[@SnapographyAP]

The 180° rule isn't applicable with today's cameras but lives on, on the internet, aided and abetted by people profiting from selling nd filters.

[@mikesphotography]

It kind of is...unless you like that jumpy look in your videos...works for Jason Bourne but it just makes anything but action videos look a little weird. And then with timelapses, following the 180 degree shutter rule makes them look a lot better when photographing cars, boats and people in motion...👍

[@SnapographyAP]

@@mikesphotography Its not a rule. Yes 180 is better than 90° if you have a reasonable amount of motion. 270° would be even better provided there isn't too much motion blur. It's the shutter speed which determines motion blur not the fps. Since that is half of the equation, it proves its nonsense. In the case of time lapse a little motion blur helps , but the smoothness is determined by the amount of "dark time" . I aim to have the minimum dark time but there are so many opposing factors that it is almost always a compromise. There are so many variables. The problem with the 180° rule is its obscure and stops people actually understanding what is going on. It would be a great topic for a video but you won't be doing it in 5 mins lol

[@mikesphotography]

Rules, principles, laws...all seem to get mixed up these days...for photography and videography "rules", they're more like principles that people can follow until they understand them and then are able to develop them with experience and in some cases, totally ignore them. You're right, shutter speed does determine motion blur, but the 180 degree "principle" just gives a simple way of quickly working out the shutterspeed for a given frame rate. For timelapses, even if the dark time might be reduced, if there isn't any motion blur, they just look horrible...so the motion blur really does determine the smoothness in certain circumstances. When it comes down to it, it's all about building up the experience and the understanding of a process, and these "principles" can be used as training wheels for beginners until they understand all of the variables that make up their images and sequences...😁👍

[@SnapographyAP]

Ok youtuber ;-)