Oh God...WHY?! THE REVISIT: Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Story Revisited (Part 1)

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[@Mngalahad]

"winston churchill, look at those enemies right behind you!" "Thanks joseph stallin. But they wont get me that easy."

[@belinskiparadox7687]

"Franklin D. Roosevelt! Thanks for the assist!"

[@hollowpotatoes770]

"WAIT! Franz Ferdinand! Watch out!"

[@zeterzero4356]

"Hey Nikola Tesla, you figure out how to find the infinite stones yet?"

[@officernealy]

"Mwahaha, puny fools. We are are Hitler-Hirohito, and with the combined power of our infinity stones, no one can stand in our way towards total domination."

[@hollowpotatoes770]

@@officernealy just mussolini crying like a toddler on the background because he got left out.

[@VinylStomp]

I do love how the dialogue really us just, "Character name...*one liner*"

[@JoninJordan]

They really do talk like that, Mauja Paradox.

[@sonicthefox2478]

I believe they do that to mimic comic book style introductions. I've seen them do that a lot in older Sonic comics for example.

[@alejandromomota6934]

I’m not the only one who noticed..:god it’s infuriating

[@Montesama314]

"Hello there, CAPTAIN AMERICA, TRADEMARK MARVEL COMICS."

[@theorigionaldrew]

It’s really bad.

[@llechium]

Captain America: "Where's Doctor Strange?" Me: *_WHERE'S YOUR NECK_*

[@JustChill0927]

Lmao

[@blackpants7385]

He was asking so that he could get his neck restored.

[@frostmourne1986]

When the super soldier serum worked TOO well.

[@timmer919hep]

Chris shot his neck off

[@sketchywest1176]

Wait till Spider-Man shows up.

[@kaizoaudio1798]

The characters that are incredibly familiar with each other, like Cap and Tony Stark wouldn’t call one another “Captain America” and “Iron Man” respectively. They’re friends. It’s the most absurd thing in an entire game of absurdities.

[@MidnightKingL]

To be fair they're surrounded by strangers that dont know there real names, maybe they wanted to keep it that way.

[@Megenos]

@@MidnightKingL Iron man being tony stark is not a secret.

[@Plasmacat1]

@@MidnightKingL Steve Roger's and Tony Stark don't have se rent identities. Fuck, Stark actively promotes himself as Iron Man and Roger's is a WW2 hero.

[@Redhead-pf8le]

MVC3 dialogue is crying in the distance at being forgotten like that

[@harrylane4]

@@Megenos it is in a lot of continuities. His identity wasn’t public in mainline comics until 2002.

[@Neoxon619]

*Fun Fact* : The only reason Laura Bailey didn’t do both Chun-Li & Black Widow is because Marvel called dibs on her & didn’t allow actors to voice characters across sides (I think Laura mentioned on Twitter that she was surprised that she wasn’t doing both when she came in to record). So if Asura or Gill actually made it in, they would have been recast since Liam O’Brien was already Doctor Strange.

[@DuelaDent52]

Neoxon ...why did they do that?

[@Neoxon619]

DuelaDent -52- I honestly have no idea. These actors are clearly talented enough to do multiple characters, Laura especially. Even Laura said she’s more than down to return as Chun-Li in future games, so I would imagine that she’ll return in SFVI. And I can’t even begin to fathom the idea of Liam not voicing Gill or *especially* Asura.

[@belinskiparadox7687]

That's so fucking suboptimal lmao. Marvel/Disney's business practices seriously boggle my mind

[@Neoxon619]

Belinski Paradox It’s all Marvel, Disney generally doesn’t get too involved regarding Marvel Games.

[@belinskiparadox7687]

@@Neoxon619 it's hard to tell who's making the decisions when there are 2 different companies involved tbh

[@VVheeli]

The story mode feels like it’s written by someone on fanfiction starting their story with, “Don’t flame- this is my first story.” Jesus Christ this dialogue is bad.

[@watersports1381]

I dont expect to have a great story, only.morons wish for great story in fighting games, only NRS can have a good story and its still cheesy, though i expect capcom to have better art than this

[@VVheeli]

Watersports It’s not even the plot line- the thing was gonna be a mess from the beginning with the crossover idea. It’s how it feels like the characters aren’t themselves. I expected good writing for Rocket, Iron Man, maybe Thor and Dante too. But it’s so bad it’s like they hired literally the worst people and gave them 5 weeks to come up with a story and dialogue. Like I’ve seen high schoolers on fanfiction write characters better than this.

[@strepsilsaregood4u]

For real. The main reason why I find Strider to be the most tolerable is because he speaks the least

[@Shiratto]

@@watersports1381 NRS can’t even make a good story mode.

[@SR.PlayAlot64]

@@Shiratto Not true

[@staticshock4239]

The worst thing about MvCI"s story mode is that the voice acting sounds so off. Which is weird because they used good voice actors for this game. The direction was just so off.

[@shawklan27]

Doctor strange sounds like he's tired of everyone's shit

[@GerrytheHeeHo]

they went from the voice director of hellsing (one of the most acclaimed dubs) to an ecchi voice director so you know

[@staticshock4239]

@AT Productions Same. But Kingdom Hearts suffered the same fate. The voice acting was pretty good in 2, Birth By Sleep (minus Terra) and even Dream Drop Distance (though Sora sounds weird because Haley Joel Osment is trying to do KH1 Sora when he was almost 30.) 3 was when everyone except Sora, Ventus and Roxas sounded so off.

[@carlbloke8797]

GerrytheHeeHo WTF?? For real?? I never knew that the UMVC3 VA director also did Hellsing. In that case, why the hell would Capcom replace him??

[@carlbloke8797]

StaticShock42 I have to disagree with KH3. Everyone sounded good in that game especially the Master of Masters. I hardly see anyone sounding off.

[@saltyazteca5989]

Whenever Strider Hiryu isn't on screen everyone should be asking, "where's Strider Hiryu?"

[@Next-xm2dh]

He's a master at becoming unnoticeable even if you can't see him he's there just watching the others

[@pabloosset2533]

@@Next-xm2dh He's clearly a master of stealth, as well shows his usual hobby of running at ridiculous speeds in open areas swinging a large blade about.

[@txcforever]

@@pabloosset2533 Α very noisy blade

[@carlbloke8797]

Pablo Osset true

[@carlbloke8797]

txcforever yep

[@sammcguire3798]

I love how the title cards are like "88 days since the convergence." Damn...you'd think maybe that'd be the slightest bit more effective if we...oh I don't know... SAW THE CONVERGENCE AT ALL?!?!

[@StriderVM]

A good example of "Show, don't tell" (An utter good example of a failure of it)

[@titan20111]

Imagine how cool it would be to actually see the convergence happening

[@carlemmerson2035]

@@StriderVM When did they show?

[@StriderVM]

@@carlemmerson2035 They didn't. Thats why I said its an utter failure to show not tell.

[@VVheeli]

They could’ve done something like Secret Wars with dimensions and universes literally colliding. Or Doctor Strange finding the Capcom Universe when Ultron and Sigma start combining. Or the Ultron hive mind jumping into different universes to 1-up the Avengers. Or Dormammu warning Strange as a weird villains-and-heroes-unite. Or Rocket and the Guardians finding an anomaly. Or Thor and Heimdall conversing over Heimdall’s visions. Or Stark being his genius-self monitoring villains like Ultron. Like this takes minimal investment from the writer’s department. And you can easily reuse assets for things in some of these examples like the Chaos Realm for Dormammu warning Strange. I just can’t forgive how lazy this is...

[@Riku2099]

Max: Why are the characters so dumb? Rocket: Yeah it sucks. Perfect timing.

[@carlbloke8797]

Khaotix Khaos LMAO true

[@carlemmerson2035]

I feel like there are some bits of dialogue where the lines aren't actually terrible (not great, but not bruh), but the performance lets it down. (Take the "for you, Rocket, anything," bit--as a line in a script, there's nothing really horrendous about it, but then it actually gets delivered and yeezus how did that come out so badly?)

[@generaljimmies3429]

16:30 Ultrrraaaa Combooooooooo!!!

[@caiomesquita268]

@@carlemmerson2035 nah, that line was reeaally akward

[@carlemmerson2035]

@@caiomesquita268 It really was.

[@Mngalahad]

that official chris model looks like it was taken from the pre alpha build of resident evil 5 that was supposed to come out for ps2.

[@savien6401]

@@leojs5673 I understand the insult to the game but that doesn't even work here

[@Igneeka]

Yeah he looks better in the actual RE5 that came out almost 10 years before this game wtf

[@Darkfoot21]

yes plz

[@BROXBasher]

I actually looked it up. The game was given Street Fighter DLC-levels of budget, so they had to bring back and tweak some UMvC3 models to make them fit in the art style. Kinda wonder if Chris was one of them.

[@Sayajin3321]

​@@BROXBasherSo if the budget was so small, why not just make an update to UMVC that replaced xfactor with the infinity stones and just add new MCU and capcom characters and called it UMVCI?

[@NoahDaArk]

12:44 It was at this point I realized who wrote the script for this game: Marvel writers with no knowledge of Capcom characters. Dante would *never* toss some random Racoon his babies Ebony and Ivory. He’d probably say “Hell no Trash Panda! The ladies stay with me.” and then proceed to shoot down several more drones like a boss

[@acedekkYT]

I havent played DMC but from what I heard, Dante never gives his guns to ANYONE and the only time he did was to his brother right?

[@NoahDaArk]

acedekk Right! To just quickly TL;DR the lore reason, his guns were built for him by a master gunsmith who was also a close friend of his. She designed Ebony and Ivory to never run out of ammo and to never break, which is super impressive! And yes, Dante did give Vergil *one* of his pistols so they could kill Arkham at the end of DMC 3. Besides that, he is very protective of his babies!

[@Next-xm2dh]

I feel like morrigan was also acting out of character

[@NoahDaArk]

Next probably because she was also written by people with no true understanding of her character

[@Shift_Salt]

If anything Dante and Rocket should just butt heads with each other constantly. Maybe have a scene where Dante drops them somehow and Rocket sneakily takes em so he can try em out. Then Dante snatches them back, conflict is way more interesting than buddy-buddy crap.

[@ZeroFayth]

24:57 Those 50+ slots in the dev menu were actually slots for “story mode scenes.” The devmenu was all written in Japanese, and so Fchamp assumed those slots were for playable characters without reading. Eventhubs believed him and further spread the misinformation. I hope that clears up some things. Nice video. Keep up the good work, Max.

[@ChargeQM]

I gotta get this bumped up so Max can take notice. The hype was real back in the day, so this actually helps bandage the old wound of not actually getting 60 characters

[@calemr]

Even if it weren't, I'd have taken it as an arbitrary number of slots for "Just in case we decide to add some more DLC one day."

[@TheDoomSlayer]

It's sad how MvC3 CG trailers had so much better scenes than this story mode.

[@vergil5906]

That trailer had more story than mvci

[@NinjaAimless]

In The Avengers Game😎

[@coffefighterz9641]

I think thats because capcom payed a company who specialized in making badass trailers with cgi

[@SPCBRAWLERZ]

MvC3 on the PS3 was my favorite of the MvC games.

[@Chadius]

Even the intro video of MvC3 is better than MvCI

[@tintor2]

X: Even my partner Zero could beat you and he is dead!!!

[@protol6269]

You mean he’s “hiding himself has he repairs himself”?

[@mwilliamspulse]

@@protol6269 He was a fucking torso with only a megabuster for an arm X6 IS SO DUMB!

[@user-so6ps4pb6y]

Am i the only one who thinks Dante's face looks like the DmC counterpart???

[@ShadowsWrath4]

6:43 "Different streets...same fight." *[audible pained groaning]* Capcom, I was born on April Fool's Day and even I wouldn't make a joke that bad.

[@JoseBronxRican]

I laughed at that line because it feels like the majority of Street Fighter stages are not even streets.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@JoseBronxRican. It's most likely a Resident Evil situation: Fit for the first game or two, but after the series got bigger, the name just kind of stuck.

[@tuojiangoman3228]

@Shadow's Wraith Don't worry, I bet someday you can pull off a joke that will be considered a classic.

[@Josh.JustJosh.]

*Dom Torretto intensifies*

[@ArcRay20]

i just realized just about nobody has facial motion for their eyes in the in-game cutscenes. liek their eyebrows dont move at all and the refuse to move their eyeballs. i dont think i say anybody look around with their eyes, they HAVE to turn their head to see something. its so damn weird to notice it now.

[@herosshade2247]

That's what it is! There was just something so awkward about these cutscenes and I couldn't put my finger on it. Well, that and the stilted character models, the voice acting, the direction, the generic trailer music, the awkward scripting and delivery, the lacking of legacy characters....

[@ArcRay20]

@@herosshade2247 well it gives off an awkward action figure feel. i first noticed it with Cap. i thought something seemed off, then i realized his mask never animates so he cant move is eyebrows, THEN i realized his eyes never move, *THEN* i realized everybody seems to have this going on. Chris was another stand out that made me realize this.

[@justsomeguy6336]

You can actually see a tiny bit of motion in Chris’ eyes at 31:09.

[@Chadius]

Dante's face. That is all.

[@thesupernintendokid4012]

If you've ever played Sonic 06, you'll see this exact issue of "character's eyes cant move so just rapidly jerk their head around" movement, even has that same shitty mocap animation with them flailing their arms around.

[@carlbloke8797]

You can’t even call this a Marvel vs Capcom game. It’s just MCU Advertisement: but with some Capcom characters...I guess

[@MrBepis-qx5ye]

I know right! Nostalgia never fails.

[@poggersuni9637]

like Avengers Super Powered Rumble or something featuring Capcom Superstars

[@meyes5671]

@AT Productions Those games at least made Marvel look sick as all hell. MvCI looks like it was crafted by people that hate Marvel.

[@willnelson9906]

@AT Productions injustice/injustice 2 are like, actually good? And not ugly af

[@meyes5671]

@AT Productions I talk shit about Injustice all the time

[@Mngalahad]

i cringe when they say each other's names out loud at the beggining. "dante from the devil may cry series".

[@Lakross101]

Ah! Mngalahad, from KZbin!

[@SuperAKA23]

Nice of you to finally show up....Lakross101

[@-TPLT]

@@SuperAKA23 Well, if it isn't the fabled SuperAKA23...!

[@hollowpotatoes770]

@@-TPLT you bet it is, TPLT!

[@fernandomora4230]

@@-TPLT Well if it isn't TPLT Nice of you to show up

[@dr.ninjake]

They introduce each other like they didn’t arrive together and all just ended up here like a party

[@DeepestDankest]

I think someone else put it best, everyone sounds like they were written by someone who never wrote a cross-over before. Hello Dante from Devil May Cry. Oh hey Captain America from Marvel's Captain America, have you seen Chris Redfield from Resident Evil?

[@Shift_Salt]

Captain America: "Ah Dante. *The* Dante, from Devil May Cry. The videogame series! How are you? Dante: Hello Mr. Captain of America aka The First Avenger, I'm doing well thanks! *Awkward high five*

[@DreamStepper]

I actually feel the problems the opposite and would've thought it cool to see the characters get to know each other, but they seemed to have fast forward the story to a point where both the Marvel and Capcom cast are entirely knowledgeable of each other.

[@marcusgabriel8365]

@@Shift_Salt Iron Man: oh my god is that Chun Li? The Chun Li? The world’s strongest woman in capcom’s most popular fighting game street fighter that’s been around since 1990? Ryu: you got that right Iron Man, The Armored Avenger aka Tony Stark of the Marvel super hero team The Avengers

[@carlbloke8797]

thehippiefreak LMAO true

[@Hakuru15]

"fOr yOu rOcKeT, AnYtHiNg" my guts are falling

[@DeadlyMisfortunexx]

literally replayed that part 15 times im dying xD

[@GigaMan91]

Spencer's first line in the game is just him screaming while being swung around by Ultron Sigma, and then he barely says anything at all. Why is he here again?

[@Shift_Salt]

Padding

[@tsuneomccormick115]

Didn't a popular UMVC 3 player asked the developers to include him.

[@CrossoverGameReviews]

Because they thought they could sell just a few units more of that Bionic Commando game. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

[@airhead1320]

Cause he's a popular function

[@Galiaverse]

The other characters should have called him "Combofiend's character" instead of Spencer.

[@nizmei8052]

Still don’t understand why Vergil isn’t in the game. The guy is always in “I need more power!” trip and he misses the power stones adventure.

[@savien6401]

Not just vergil, whole MVCU3 cast

[@unclepaul1995]

Is because he cheap.

[@CelestialReturner]

Vergil would truly fit in the quest to get the Infinity Stones.

[@Next-xm2dh]

He's dante's twin brother and would probably have the same face as him in this game, THANK GOD HE'S NOT IN

[@rosenrot234]

Do you REALLY want Dante's twin brother? Dante is butt ugly in this game and you want Vergil?

[@Erik-iq4et]

"Please, will somebody just tell me who he is?" -Unknown Man

[@ermatthe]

12:44 - "For you Rocket, anything" 😂

[@DeadlyMisfortunexx]

I literally replayed that part like 15 times im dying xD

[@marterrencereyes4627]

His face is terrible in this

[@carlemmerson2035]

You know you've got writing problems when there's more excess name-dropping than in an '80s Transformers comic.

[@spicy767]

They shouldve all introduced themselves by standing still, saying their name and their ability/personality trait and then the next and next...

[@carlemmerson2035]

@@spicy767 The occasional bit of 3rd-personing, too.

[@NoahDaArk]

Or in the original animated series, and that show was basically made to be a toy ad. But in all fairness, the OG Transformers did actually have some very solid writing, aiding by its great voice cast. This game… not so much

[@FalconCritical]

I love that they're like "Oh no, Thor has been infected by Sigma! We need Hawkeye and Arthur to fight him" lol

[@tuojiangoman3228]

“We have the perfect way to test Batman's contingency plan!”

[@nickthedreamer4434]

If I remember correctly, the guy voicing Iron Man here also voice Iron Man in the "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" cartoon series in the years leading up to Disney's purchase of Marvel.

[@flashergoldpower15]

Your right. but at the same time he sounds different. It must be a different voice actor.

[@AlanJ1993]

he was fantastic, it really sucks that they just Nolan North for that new Avengers game instead he is really bad. He is also just doing his Deadpool voice for Ironman which is really jarring let alone that he is to much of a goofball and over the top which again makes Ironman sound more like Deadpool.

[@flashergoldpower15]

Alan Joestar well I wondered if they were looking for a iron man voice actor. Hell! They could’ve gotten the one from Avengers earths mightiest heroes.

[@carlbloke8797]

@@AlanJ1993 Pretty much. It’s why Eric Loomis was a great voice since he actually captured Robert Downey Jr.’s portrayal

[@StriderZessei]

I lowkey love Arthur calling Thor a heathen god. That's exactly how the so-called Christian knights would have perceived pagan beliefs.

[@carlemmerson2035]

I love it too, but at this point, I can't help but assume it was an accident given the attention to detail (or lack thereof) from the writers.

[@StriderZessei]

@@carlemmerson2035 I wouldn't be surprised, lol

[@ProfessorShnacktime]

Well by definition he is literally a heathen god... and what do you mean by "so called" Christian knights? Christianity and knighthood were pretty intertwined.

[@leecrotty658]

@@ProfessorShnacktime if you’re supporting Christianity I agree. There’s clear reasons why pagan belief was smashed, but I’m not sure that’s how Jesus would do it. On second thought, I am sure, Jesus would not smash to show people the truth.

[@KaminariHouse]

@@leecrotty658 Correct. He would smite them with Holy Light instead.

[@ultimate4323]

They spend so much time saying each other's names that i half expect their names to pop up on screen like in the suicide squad movie.

[@ceriani1234]

"SIR LANCELOT, 6TH PATRIARCH OF THE DOJIMA FAMILY"

[@Shift_Salt]

It's like an unnecessary narrator shedding light on the most obvious shit.

[@gamester091]

@@ceriani1234 dammit i was gunna make that joke

[@yungfrijol]

"what are we, some kinda Marvel Vs. Capcom Infinite?"

[@ultimate4323]

@@Shift_Salt imagine they were doing this in infinity war.

[@Ganmorg]

(13:14) "It's like Assist Me levels of fuckin bad" I feel like this deserves more attention, gotta love the past burn

[@LightningZerker]

I hate this story mode because it made me realize Dr. Cain lived in Abel City.

[@gabowesker9697]

Lol never tought about it that's messed up

[@unclepaul1995]

Opinions on Ultron Sigma?

[@TeryJones]

@Strider Xanthos It's a blatant biblical reference, Cain & Abel.

[@BoosterGoose]

@Strider Xanthos Yes. Dr. Cain created the Reploids by referring to X's design, and the biblical reference goes to show that in a way, Dr. Cain killed his home town Abel City due to all the damages caused by the Mavericks and Sigma, the first Reploid he created. If I'm right, the anime "The Day of Sigma" (and the game Maverick Hunter X) is the first time the city is ever referenced as Abel City, so it is a relatively recent addition to the lore. The city is pretty much ground zero of Sigma-virus created Mavericks, exactly because the Hunters operate there. (I'm a bit too intense about the lore :P)

[@LightningZerker]

@@BoosterGoose It's also a lesser known fact, but Dr. Cain is not a robot scientist. He is an archeologist. He basically fumbled his way into creating Reploids based off X's design.

[@Siyko]

Every cutscene seems to be the same. "Good job, Capcom hero!" "And you, Marvel hero!" "Look out! More of them!"

[@evandavis5223]

"Stark! Spencer!" "Iron Man!" "Captain America!" "Tetsuo!" "Kaneda!" "Testuooooo!" "KANEDAAAAAAAA!"

[@rosenrot234]

NARUTO

[@thomasvinh9729]

LIQUIIIIIIID

[@huskyvi5686]

VEGETAAAAA!!!!!

[@MitoNova583]

Donkey!

[@saltyazteca5989]

SNAAAAKE

[@-TPLT]

"I think when he's speaking, Mega Man X's voice sounds quite good. But in combat? He sounds a bit too much like Dan." "But in combat?" So he doesn't sound like X in the part of the game most people are going to play? Damn.

[@Next-xm2dh]

I think he sounds awful everytime he speaks ( i miss mark gatha as X.... ), this voice actor does a way better job at teppen though

[@javiervalderrama4904]

I'm still in disbelief that they bring back X's voice actor from Maverick Hunter X and X8. He became the best X in the series by far and did a great job at characterizing him. Hell, he is even in the mobile game. The direction in voice acting in this game just doesn't make any sense.

[@Next-xm2dh]

@@javiervalderrama4904 which mobile game??? Mark gatha has retired since maverick hunter x

[@javiervalderrama4904]

@@Next-xm2dh MegaMan X DIVE it's called. And if it's not Mark It sounds awfully close to him

[@Next-xm2dh]

@@javiervalderrama4904 there's no dub in x dive it didn't even release here

[@LexStormA]

This story feels like a bunch of Japanese writers trying to imitate an MCU movie. Why not have Marvel comic book writers write the plot for this if they're going for Avengers plus Capcom characters?

[@LexStormA]

@Strider Xanthos Really? The awkward pauses, grunting, and characters nodding at each other is a common problem in games with Japanese writers (mostly cause it doesn't translate well to English without feeling off) The emphasis on Marvel might have been to ride the hype of the MCU, hence the infinity stones EDIT: 45:00 Max explains it

[@Shift_Salt]

Everyone looks like they're 3D modeled by Rob Liefeld after he just found out how to do it.

[@mgbenz]

The story was written with no idea about the histories of the Capcom characters and you thought it was written by Capcom's staff?

[@SonnyBCreative]

it was written by Marvel Studios. do research next time

[@carlemmerson2035]

@@SonnyBCreative No way it could have been anyone other than the intern from marketing.

[@joshuas.g.g.4951]

Take a shot every time a character shrugs their shoulders. Note: Probably don't do that.

[@waddledoo2you13]

Ima fucking do it

[@PonchitoPoncho2050]

Im passed out in a hospital thank you very much.

[@lirfrank]

"Iron Man looks like a homeless guy" How was that not on the back of the box?

[@Mngalahad]

Max: "did you know MVCi's story mode was made by Square Enix?" Me: "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA".

[@michaellevin2861]

GOD DAMNIT NOMURA

[@breaksystembse]

@@michaellevin2861 Nomura: [laughs in belts]

[@16xthedetail76]

Ah so thats why the game flopped. Not enough belts!

[@SilverZephyr09]

37:51 It's like they only animated his lower jaw as a joke, only it wasn't a joke, it was a nightmare and we're all still living in it.

[@natoriousthehopeful2786]

Max actually wasn't kidding about revisiting the story... Is he THAT dedicated as a gamer, or is he just that big of a masochist?

[@StriderZessei]

Yes.

[@nizmei8052]

Yes.

[@SuperFusionAJ93]

He's Masocated

[@Sean_Bird]

It takes a true man to dive back into the face of danger.

[@WikiHL]

Definetly a masochist

[@Spicypuff]

They should've used the voice actor from the megaman X PSP game. The "I WILL DEFEAT YOU SIGMA" always gets me.

[@TheIndigoBros92]

They could not since Mark Gatha (X from X8, Command Mission and Maverick Hunter X) is retired and is a Vancouver VA, while this game was recorded on California (that's the same reason why Zero was recast from Lucas Gilberston to Johnny Yong Bosch)

[@ariloulei814]

I really feel like it would have been more interesting if the sigma virus infected Iron Mans suit (or even Jarvis) instead of Thor. Imagine how much more sense that would make as the Sigma Virus tends to infect robots/AI and with Tony still stuck in the suit it would have made the fight more dramatic.

[@Shift_Salt]

Oh right... Jarvis. God I miss when people acknowledged him.

[@Sorrelhas]

I can't believe Anthony Stark died of Sigma

[@paperluigi6132]

@@Sorrelhaswho the hell is Anthony Stark?

[@Sorrelhas]

@@paperluigi6132 Sigma balls lol

[@dudejoe24]

Hearing Iron mans voice in this game makes me sad because i'm reminded of Avengers: EMH and how we won't get a s3

[@petershirou892]

don't say that deadpool did a good iron man voice

[@dudejoe24]

@@petershirou892 Eric Loomis never played deadpool

[@petershirou892]

@@dudejoe24 mvc3 he did it

[@dudejoe24]

@@petershirou892 that was Nolan North not Eric Loomis

[@tjl4688]

@@petershirou892 Nolan is a terrible Iron Man.

[@BootyjuiceJenkins]

Ah yes. Functions Vs. Functions Infinite.

[@Neoxon619]

I can’t really fault Combofiend for the functions thing. Ike Perlmutter probably had an assassin ready to fire if Peter implicated Marvel in any way for the lack of X-Men & F4 characters. And given that he later got a job at Marvel Games, it worked out.

[@meyes5671]

@@Neoxon619 He should've said nothing.

[@NautoAis]

@@Neoxon619 Yup, trying to market something even knowing the situation is difficult, Peter was well aware that someone will ask about the X-Men situation, and Peter had to think something that won't make Disney mad.

[@shawklan27]

What a iconic quote

[@sammydray5919]

@@Neoxon619 Hard disagree. I get that there wasn't too much he could have said or suffer corporate wrath but there was no need for that dismissive comment. He could have said that they were trying something new or trying to change the formula or anything safe like that and NOT brush off all questions and assume that functions are all what people care about. His comment did nothing but anger the consumer base which was already rattled. It might have worked out for him in getting a good post but it ended up pushing the game in an even bigger hole

[@Despots_Blitz86]

Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Suffering

[@Toxin_Glitch]

10:13 “Nice weapon, Lance-a-little. Compensating for something?” Max: *YOUR TINY PE-*

[@KC0407]

NIS!

[@romann921]

Underfunded and very much RUSHED to capitalize on the MCU hype. What could've been from this game is heart breaking, smh.

[@Unknownigen]

And that's what's so ironic. Like Max said, had this come out 6-7 months later between Infinity War & Endgame and at around the same time Captain Marvel was coming out, this game would have been much more relevant. And maybe those 6-7 months would've given them a little more time to add on some more polish to the game.

[@fordesponja]

@@Unknownigen Not to mention the staggering amount of bitching and knaiving from Disney side. Is like they wanted to make an excuse to stop doing MvC games. I don't really understand it. It's a beloved 25 year old franchise that surely has made fans from both sides be interested in one another, why shit on the franchise that has given one of the best selling fighting games of all time?

[@carlbloke8797]

Daniel Martinez Gonzalez Daniel Martinez Gonzalez it especially pissed me off how Marvel was basically breathing down the devs necks even back in the MVC3 days. If I recall, they had to fight to use Shuma Gorath, Rocket Raccoon etc. because Marvel wasn’t using them or something which is still stupid to be against.

[@Unknownigen]

@@carlbloke8797 Yep. Marvel wasn't planning to use/didn't have the rights to some characters (Capcom wanted to add Juggernaut to MvC3, but Marvel said no cuz he was owned by Fox at the time, and they didn't wanna promote their competition). At least that problem wouldn't exist now, given that Marvel owns all their properties again

[@djhero0071]

Money. They did it mainly for clout without trying to put in the effort to EARN the clout. Most of the games Marvel worked on and licensed their characters to before MvC:I were mobile games. They just commissioned it and hoped for the best and that’s why we got Hershey’s gameplay in a shit package.

[@Amesang]

So, will _"Oh, God… WHY?!"_ become the new _"oh shit"_ ?

[@unclepaul1995]

Coppa: The Ages of Broadcast Yourself is over, Demonetization Protect Kids from traumatized Videos!

[@djbubblegum9975]

@@unclepaul1995 Calm down. It's because he had a kid and is training himself to swear less.

[@JustChill0927]

It seems so

[@JustChill0927]

@@djbubblegum9975 Yeah

[@unclepaul1995]

@@djbubblegum9975 Coppa: Blame Logan Paul for This Hanging Jokes.

[@587DeathKing]

The 2 parts I liked was Ultimate Armor X getting the final attack on the final boss because (this was before Mega Man 11 and the revitalization of Mega Man) it was one of the coolest things that has happened for a Mega Man character so far and Dante being worthy of the soul stone because I thought it was a pretty cool way to incorporate the lore of DMC and Marvel.

[@ZRovas117]

I'm baffled at times with Capcom. OBVIOUSLY they care SO MUCH about Arthur (and Ghost and Goblins) that he gets representation for mvc3/umvc3 and even mvci. If he had that much clout in terms of company history, I don't understand why they wouldn't heavily consider getting a GnG remake in order.

[@Dzzy123]

They probably see Arthur as just a throwback character to use for crossovers.

[@ZRovas117]

@@Dzzy123 you mean a token old character so they can go: "look! We still remember our old characters!" Personally I'd be down if they remake gng in like the RE Engine as a side scroller or something.

[@Dzzy123]

@@ZRovas117 They did a reimagining of GnG during the PS2 era. I forget what the series was called. I'd like Capcom to make a new Power Stone. They have hinted at it in the past, and I was surprised that they didn't add a Power Stone character to MvCI when the plot had to do with acquiring stones.

[@Iffem]

@@ZRovas117 " you mean a token old character so they can go: "look! We still remember our old characters!"" So he's Capcom's Captain Falcon

[@Next-xm2dh]

@@Dzzy123 morrigan comes to mind

[@SithLordMalco]

Fun Fact: Chris Tergliafera voiced Sigma in Ultron vs Sigma - the DEATH BATTLE under a sydonum of SupremeOverlordofIce

[@liaminator4950]

Congrats you got me to watch a death battle for the first time in years

[@lordgoenutz1094]

Hard to believe half of this game's plot revolves around Thanos being a simp for Death

[@Chadius]

There's a reason Infinity War dropped that angle...

[@williamharmon4039]

@@Chadius To be honest, I found movie Thanos's motivation to be disappointing and a bit dumb.

[@keystrix3704]

He's a salty simp boy too, being that he knows Death has her eyes on Deadpool instead.

[@Soul93Taker]

Most accurate title ever in this channel.

[@sebastiankon123]

Yep

[@NoahDaArk]

It’s not clickbait if it’s true

[@nathanrodriguez914nr]

Cap looks like a patriotic ninja turtle

[@JustBrandon-i]

Michael Bay Edition

[@djbubblegum9975]

23:57 to add onto this, he also plays Nero in DMC and Ichigo Kurosaki in Bleach, two more scream heavy characters that he does an absolutely fantastic job in

[@rosenrot234]

I can't unhear all the critical role voice actors lol. Hearing Dr Strange just made me go "Liam? Is that you?"

[@liaminator4950]

Yeah...same, i can't hear liam as nightcrawler without just hearing younger caleb

[@GR.Gear_Lock]

I remember I was genuinely excited to see Jedah--one of my favorite Darkstalkers and all time Capcom characters--be a part of the MvCI roster. Then I also remembered Capcom resurrected him in MvCI.

[@PokeHearts]

I loved the idea of being able to play Ultron Sigma(and overpowered version) by choosing ultron and sigma and choosing an extra option to fuse them. I know that's not how they would do it even if they did but making the boss actually playable, and removing your assist in return would be interesting as a casual player

[@calemr]

Could have made a special team super. Like when you run Bucky and Cap. In fact, they could have made a bunch of them.

[@Sonicstriforce]

Max: "Universes and stages colliding is a really cool idea!" *Can't believe Playstation Allstars Battle Royale did this idea not only first but BETTER*

[@BigEOT3]

And it had Kat from Gravity Rush too as DLC, but still better than Arthur from Ghosts and Goblins

[@DeepestDankest]

Someone already told you to count how many times people say eachother's names? Here's a fun one, count how many times literally ANYBODY shrugs

[@masonwhite3698]

16:53 THAT. That right there is the problem with these cutscenes. Cap gets Chris's attention, he turns to look, and there's, like, two or three seconds of Chris just *standing there* doing nothing until the robot shows up and they do the "I'll take that as a yes" gag. Every goddamn cutscene in this story is filled with these long, awkward pauses that make it feel like every character forgot their lines and missed their cues. You can practically see the stage director frantically gesturing for the robot to jump in already. The only reason I can think of that it's like this is that they had to pad it out for time, which is especially stupid since the whole thing, as Max pointed out, feels like you missed the start of it.

[@Dalehan]

The constant name dropping reminds me of that Rush Hour 2 blooper. "Jackie, kick it!" "Okay, Chris Tucker!"

[@lastpringle8904]

18:29 Strider: Blade! Strange: Magic! Rocket: Groot! Chun-Li: Fist! Chris: Second Amendment

[@oro-515]

Max trying to imitate Chun-Li’s weird “haaaaaa”s are the funnies sh**

[@mismismism]

The wasted potential. The ugly as sin designs, the Marvel side just being every character without any unique or cool powers, just super strength and guns, the awful "must push brand recognition" name dropping dialogue, bringing back characters like Arthur and Spencer(my arm is my wife, so many jokes lol) while they dropped some of the main characters people love. It's actually incredible this was released like this. Whoever is in charge of what characters are allowed to be used in games at Marvel needs to be fired, they consistently choose all the most boring generic characters, even to this day, look at the Avengers game, the first DLC is the only Young Avenger without powers... Like, what?

[@zeterzero4356]

I'm still not sure why they went with Kate and not Clint.

[@qbeauty9291]

Put some respect on Kate!!!! She whooped old man wolverine. Go sit down and read something

[@patrickcoote8907]

It’s cause of her connection with Clint I’m fairly certain Black Panther would have been the og first DLC until Chadwick Boseman’s tragic death so..

[@DR.SLAMMER]

The character designs were ok, but the lighting engine and semi-realism used in Infinite doesn't do any of the cast any favors (i.e. why Dante looks like he's on day 3 of a sleepless cocaine binge.)

[@tornadoandy123]

"It's also my wife and I'm severely depressed, HELP ME."

[@SidneyMosley]

"I believe in my Kingdom of Hearts..." Tread carefully Max... 😂

[@m.muradbasic4186]

9:55 that‘s because they chose Nolan North to voice Iron Man in the new Avengers game, which is bad because he was usually voicing Deadpool and funny enough, he also voiced Rocket Racoon in this game.

[@ultrayoshi100]

So in terms of voices in this game: - I think Ultrons voice is pretty good. He kinda does the CRUSH KILL DESTROY thing that you'd think evil robots would do - Jedah has a really good voice but I think him trying to do the high pitched laugh doesn't work too much - Dante sounds worse than he does in this game. Its oddly closer to DMC3 Dante but it makes him kinda obnoxious. Not to mention he's top tier so you learn to hate hearing him - Chun-Li's voice isn't great and thats odd considering Ashley Burch is pretty good at what she says - Thanos has a real good voice. Sounds exactly what an evil space overlord would sound - Hearing Spencer makes me think he's gonna talk about Butt Stallion

[@grape_nation]

How could you forget the best voice in the game? Sigma

[@Shift_Salt]

I know he's not in the story buuut... Venom.

[@ultrayoshi100]

@@grape_nation Max brought it up so I didn't think it was necessary

[@AzureDragonZX]

The worst voice, in terms of gameplay, is Monster Hunter. She sounds like she's throwing up whenever you hit her. And unfortunately, everyone likes using her, so that's most of what you hear.

[@DPSalt64]

@@AzureDragonZX Worse than Firebrand?

[@cinder3la999]

When the demo makes you feel that your starting in the middle of fhe story thats not a good sign

[@breaksystembse]

Just putting this up there: the Story and script was done by a Marvel Comic Book writer named Paul Gardner with mainly Wolverine in his History. :/

[@raizen912]

"Free from the sins of the flesh"...... Did sigma forget reploids still have flesh over their skeletons, and blood too depending on the game?

[@Next-xm2dh]

It's not blood just some red liquid

[@spiritpbr9659]

Arthur is a huge piece of Capcom history. He deserves to be in every MvC game.

[@icecontrol1]

Never got why they had to put the Capcom characters as if they were from the same "dimension", with Marvel it makes sense but almost everyone from Capcom side is from a different place

[@Predator20357]

Yah as now as Chris was probably wrestling rocks and killing zombies, Chun Li was fighting people, Dante was murdering demons, and so on.

[@Aflay1]

Thor: *Absolute godly power* Arther: ahhhh _charges clumsily_

[@mr.mcklockwork3828]

Arthur: has an arsenal of enchanted holy weapons that he can throw. Also Arthur: *I'm fast as fuck boi*

[@Predator20357]

@@mr.mcklockwork3828 Arthur: could use any kind of range weapon Arthur: “time to run into the enemy! Much like I do in my games!”

[@nolanstrife7350]

For me personally MVCI is just... So much wasted potential. The gameplay is amazing. The idea to unite Ultron and Sigma is genius! And yet here we are... Still (not anymore) waiting for Simon Blackquill...

[@nolanstrife7350]

@laz kar I think it was leaked a long time ago that Simon Blackquill was supposed to be a dlc character MVCI is pretty much dead now, and it's sad. I imagine Simon would play like a mix of swordplay and UMVC3 Phoenix Wright evidence/modes shenanigans with Taka thrown into his moveset Damn, that's a shame we won't get Simon... Edit: Oh, and imagine stunning Thanos or Dormammu with Simon's trademark "SILENCE!"...

[@Protosilver97]

Who is Simon Blackquill?

[@Protosilver97]

@HorizonCrosser 128 Well, if you notice, the Marvel roster of the first games are almost everyone tv show characters, that's why it all started with X-men.

[@nolanstrife7350]

@@Protosilver97 Simon Blackquill is a recurring prosecutor from Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies. He's convicted for murder, yet he still prosecutes DD cases. Has a pet falcon called Taka. Starts up chained, but has a habit of breaking those during trials which scares living shit out of everyone (most of all, Judge). Smart, cunning, but honourable. A little cocky. Has a neat move when he spits Taka's feathers into his opponents and slicing them in half with iaijutsu, using, ahem... Invisible katana...

[@Next-xm2dh]

Simon can actually beat the shit out of someone though i think that if another character from phoenix wright was chosen aside from phoenix it would be miles, he's just too popular

[@kevingriffith6011]

35:07 It feels like this scene was meant to happen *before* you fight, with Thor cutting in after the fight ends. Even more ways this game feels like it was just thrown out unfinished and left to die.

[@theotherjared9824]

9:55 this is because the voice actors for several marvel characters are reprising their roles from the show Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Great show that disney did dirty.

[@starfalchion4404]

Leo 1509 Nah I’m pretty sure the ratings were decent. It was cancelled because the new heads of Marvel Animation wanted to make shows that could bank off of the success of the movies.

[@masterzero7146]

Leo 1509 It wasn’t cancelled because of ratings. It was cancelled because they wanted a new cartoon “Avengers Assemble”, which was based more off of the MCU instead of the comics like EMH was

[@Shift_Salt]

@@leojs5673 Yes and I'm sure that's totally the case with countless other Marvel shows that were cancelled way too soon. Fact is if it doesn't fit the mold a company wants to fill it gets dumped regardless of "ratings" and another thing, companies are supposed to pay for ads so the show can actually have an audience. Nobody will watch something they have no idea even exists!

[@cerulean9313]

god the phrase "he's infected with the sigma virus" has only grown funnier

[@DarkSaber22]

18:30 would've been cool to do a "Choose your Fighter" like MK and Injustice here

[@Iffem]

they had that shit figured out back in Smash Brothers Brawl

[@ButterStick64]

I love how characters like Hawkeye and Rocket were redesigned to look like their MCU counterparts, except Thor. And you know It’s so that they could recycle everything from MVC3

[@keeyon012]

I love how the FIRST thing Thanos says in this entire story mode is "y'all fucked up, lol". There's something so glorious about that.

[@cordellriemer5177]

Imagine for MVC4. they would have everyone from the series. THAT WOULD BE SICK AF!!!!

[@poggersuni9637]

And being able to have a mash up of X-Factor(balanced of course) the stones and 3v3 action.

[@malikarsyasakani]

And Doctor Doom would be the Final Boss of the game

[@Jipjert]

Yeah and then add some extra characters including fantaatic four

[@daviddamasceno6063]

If you say that a game character is voiced by Troy Baker, you've got a 90% chance of being right.

[@ArcRay20]

a joke i still like to make about Dr. light of all people being alive(?) in this game is that its just a VERY well planned hologram just like it is in all the MMX games. except those are clearly just messages, this is almost like talking to a real person. lol

[@Shift_Salt]

It's probably just supposed to be an advanced AI programmed to be him.

[@ArcRay20]

@@Shift_Salt given the way he acted in that cutscene i totally forgot about with looking at his hologram hands, yeah probably. oops

[@diskoflash2002]

Sad thing is this game is what made my sister really appreciate MegaMan X. She's beaten 1, 2, and 4. As sad as this game is, it kind of has a special place in my heart.

[@liaminator4950]

At least it did something right

[@sinteleon]

But who's more homeless: MvCI Tony Stark or Marvel Avengers Tony Stark?

[@numerousncomicsandlegos6780]

I never understood that, is M.A tony broke?

[@Rencier]

I have to rant about this. Part of the reason why the game looks so bad is because they tried to make the characters look like they belonged in a live action movie or something, right? So why the hell is Arthur still a short cartoon character? Why is he part of the game's story? He is the most out of place character in this line up but he's still here! We've even had a normal human sized version Arthur back in Namco x Capcom, so there's precedence for him to look like a normal human being. There is... so much that upsets me about this game from a design standpoint and I think this is one of the more baffling examples of it.

[@cable2590]

This game was made by capcom. The company that put out games like monster hunter world, Resident evil 2 remake. This is a game from a AAA company. Just...lordy

[@staticshock4239]

Capcom made a lot of questionable decisions before Monster Hunter World. Though I also blame Marvel/Disney for how this game turned out.

[@cable2590]

@@staticshock4239 Who knows. All I know is this is not a creative driven product. Power Rangers battle for the grid looks better than this. It's so ugly and awkward.

[@javiervalderrama4904]

This was the time when Capcom didn't know what the hell they were doing with their properties anymore. MegaMan was dead in año iterations, Tekken was doing bad ever since tag, Residente Evil was going downhill without brakes and the only doing kind of good was Monster Hunter Generations wich was a 3ds Game. World and RE7 was the start of them getting their shit together.

[@cthulhubecausewhynot1182]

Cable Except you can find out basically the whole story- Matt McMuscles did a Wha Happun on it (Where Max actually showed up) that explains that this game was “Cheap as shit” and Marvel was an absolute nightmare to work with.

[@flashergoldpower15]

It just damn sucks that MVCI turned out this way

[@AkibaInk]

Cap looking like he was drawn by Rob Liefeld and is about to relaunch in 1996.

[@tannerheffley1211]

He should have put quotes around the word "story" because it's non existent

[@mismismism]

Literally, it's just "Say everyone's names for brand recognition" the musical. Calling this long ass MCU movie ad a story is a stretch lol.

[@CylonDorado]

I think it’s strange they tried, since MVC makes less sense then any other fighting game to have a story.

[@carlemmerson2035]

@@mismismism Dude, MvC: The Musical would be the tightest thing.

[@gwizzledizzle2659]

Game: hit X for light hit Max: does 50 hit combo

[@b.p.888]

This is a great video! Laughed a lot at your commentary and gameplay. That whole "do-do-do" while prone was HiLaRiOuS 😂😂😂 Please do more of these 💯💯💯 Glad you and your family/friends are doing good in these times. God bless ✝️

[@isaacmartinez6076]

I love how whenever dante is brought into a game they usually use the dmc3 version like the dmc 1 and 4 versions and weapons don't exist

[@PedrozaJonathan]

Hey max! I just want to point out that this kind of video is amazing! Watching the game or doing simple playthroughs is common, everybody does it, but doing an analysis like this, more in-dept and with acquired knowledge and insights is a really precious and enjoyable experience.

[@davidoverton1496]

I still can't believe what was allowed to happen with this game. An absolute travesty!

[@cubansupreme]

Max: "Captain Marvel looks fine. She's got a big forehead......a real big forehead." Me: You're one to talk Max.

[@Next-xm2dh]

Ateast captain marvel is hiding her

[@runningwithscissors8612]

My dude’s got them ADS

[@ItsDaniPlays]

Glad you decided to upload the revisit. Been wanting to watch this

[@cmk5498]

I watched live, the Twitch VOD, and now here for the editing