How this song transforms with the context of the sequel. Oh man.
@Kyoyo29 ай бұрын
no cause I still can't get over that plot twist
@zriyuu4 ай бұрын
Do you mind telling me what plot twist? I don't follow Milgram (love the song tho)
@Yumetsu_ch4 ай бұрын
@@zriyuu She's a manipulator
@datekaname22464 ай бұрын
She was the bully.@@zriyuu
@TheKillianKanVT4 ай бұрын
@@zriyuu she was the "queen bee" of the class, that gathered girls and then bullied those who she disliked or felt useless to her. And Mu honestly believed that she was justified in what she was doing and she did nothing wrong. It was just games and fun, nothing bad happened to anyone. "Im so cute after all. Cute can't be bad or evil" The victim in the end put spotlight on Mu herself and everyone she thought as her "friends" turned on her in a moment and she was bullied even more. The ending was mostly about "Please, say it was a lie. help me. im sorry for what i did." and victim said no. Act of desperation was a stab with a paperknife that lead to an unfortunate death.
hope ppl realize that "nobody deserves to be bullied" and "being bullied doesnt justify killing someone" are statements that can and should and will always coexist
@momiji33452 жыл бұрын
rightt?? like I personally think she should not be forgiven because she doesn't feel guilty at all like some other prisoners. killing someone is an horrible act and nothing can justify it. if you feel guilty enough and we can see it won't even happen again and that it is an accident depending on the circumstances it can be forgiven (that's my beliefs) but the fact she thinks she's right and the girl deserved to be killed makes me think she could snap again and is a "menace" to society which shouldn't be forgiven..
@ryry56632 жыл бұрын
@@momiji3345 Sorry but It’s clear that Mu feel regret and doubt about all of this. BUT- the nuance is where she is trying to reach an ideal. The ideal of the one who doesn’t deserve what she’s being trough. Mu is having that behavior to be the closest to that ideals. She’s in fact know that was she has done was bad and regret it deeply. But at the same time these feelings conflict with her ideals of « I wasn’t wrong » as she as to apologize somewhere as she kinda deserves to be treated that way and everything was her fault in the end so no one should emphasize with her feelings because it’s more a punishment that a unfortunate thing. Mu is a child who can only distinguish black and white based on herself. As she understands, that the other prisoners probably had their reasons to kill someone. Saying that someone is unforgivable for the same thing as her would mean that by extension she’s unforgivable. Everything is not black and white. But for her everything is either bad or good. It’s as simple as that. The world just don’t work the same for her. Her image of herself is already quite perplexed but with this whole Milgram situation she can’t adopt the situation otherwise. What I mean, is that in MILGRAM. It’s the worst place possible to show doubts about your actions with your actions/murder. Being in the wrong means being not liked by Es so deserve everything that happen to her so her bullys were right so GUILTY. (Not really but it’s was explained like that to her) again she will have to suffer for trying to stop her suffering no matter how hard she tried that’s won’t stop. She can’t just admit she was wrong somewhere it’s would literally mean that she won’t be protect by the only place ON her side. (She seems to hate school and police. So in my opinion she tried to get help but yk rich girl being rich girl probably some corruption somewhere and for the school they usually don’t care.) So yeah, her new behavior was conform to that idea ! And it’s not that of a shock Milgram has protect and help Mu to reach that ideal version of herself(+ Haruka also has help). But still, Mu can only show that side of her to Milgram. But to Haruka, she explains her doubts, anxiety and everything. As Haruka said that she was scared of Milgram. Is the new Mu, look scared ? No, but she is. Anyways, my point was that she can show something but the meaning behind all of this is totally different. It’s not really about how we think the world is but about how they see it. Mu wants to be like by Es. So she shows them a «good» her (Notice how Mu’s behavior change and NEVER said that something hurt. Even when Yuno reject her) so everything that the bullying happens for in the board(what she thinks is the reason she don’t exactly know about it) she did stop doing it.
@mikotokayano2 жыл бұрын
im still voting muu innocent cuz i love her though
@mikotokayano2 жыл бұрын
like its clear to me at least that shes not evil or manipulative or whatever, shes literallyjust a16 year old who snapped 😂 and she lost her power when she was bullied but then after getting an inno vote shes gotten it back again and tries her best to keep it. shes very insecure about her status right now. "...You saw it, right? Muu.. did nothing wrong. Don’t you think so?" (fourth voice line, second trial) she still wants validation like before she just has more social power now and good for her! she gets an inno from me
@azaclex77652 жыл бұрын
@@ryry5663 Shes a spoilt child that thinks saying sorry will solve all her problems then continue to do the same thing again. But i’m voting her innocent not in terms of morals but to spoil her even more rotten and see how she changes
It seems true to me, around 00:31 you can see a rope that's used for taking your life that dissapears when the space changes to the school where there's no rope but strangely there are all her items on the floor (that also are inside the hour glass), and when she sings at 2:03 "counterattack being a suicide note" I believe it means Mu using her pity situation to say she's going to take her own life if they don't leave her alone, but since they used to be her friends they of course did not believe her and things kept going worse. Another theory is that maybe Mu is just doing what she's doing with Haruka the same thing she did with Rei. Wich is, to manipulate the person keeping them by her side and saying that if something bad happenned to her she would kill herself and they must follow her (double suicide). But Rei, unlike Haruka, noticed Mu's manipulation and abandoned her, later she showed to the school her manipulation through that "suicide note", and as soon as Mu was all alone, she tried to ask Rei's forgiveness and to help her out, however Rei already knew all she was doing, so she only kept going her way. But Mu with all of her own rage and desesperation kills Rei in a way to stop her from keep spreding the truth about her and eventually stop being bullied. The second one doesn't make much sense but there are things that seem right since Mu is a manipulator
Looking back on this, the hourglass is a genius representation. Not only of Mu being "pilled up" with the bullying until she snapped and killed, but also that before Mu's side started being filled, the "other side" was the one that got filled first with the bullying.
"Strangers would never want to hurt each other that badly." There's a common belief among the MILGRAM theorists that because of the photo on her phone where she is smiling with her bullies, Mu is """"""""secretly""""""""" a bully herself. There's a lot of hard stretches that people use to say that Mu isn't the victim, from "maybe she deserves to be bullied" to her faking her own bullying. However this is predominantly under the assumption that a person who is friends with their bullies must either A) mean that there is a huge reason behind why they turned on her, or B) Mu is faking her bullying for attention because she's clearly good friends with them. However the sad truth is, a lot of bullying comes from the people closest to them. While there are often cases of people harassing strangers or acquaintances, there are just as many if not MORE cases where people are bullied by their peers. While there are reasons why people bully their friends, most of the time it's not for any 'logical' reason. It is ironic that there is a huge amount of dislike for the idea of bullying (as seen with Fuuta), however the reason why a significant number of people bully others is because they view themselves as justified somehow. Which is why I think Fuuta and Mu being next to each other is important; no bully cackles and rubs their hand plotting their evil schemes to demean others. They just do it. Because it's easy, and/or because they view the victim as 'deserving' of it. It's exceptionally easy for everyone to say that they hate bullying. But when bullying happens, a lot of people either let it happen or think that there must be some reason for it. Which permits people with the same mindset as Fuuta to do the things they do. My actual theory/analysis, is that it's a lot more straightforward. There are many indications that the bullying is actually happening, not Mu faking it. The most obvious being the hourglass metaphor. Mu is trapped inside an hourglass, with no chance of getting out (unless if the hourglass breaks). If the bullying was fake, the hourglass wouldn't constantly fill with sand while Mu is still in it. A more accurate metaphor would be an open cage; something that Mu can leave easily but she chooses not to. An hourglass, with it's sand physically weighing down on Mu and threatening to suffocate her is dangerous. Not to mention, there is a physical wall between her and her bullies. The bullies watch her from the outside, but they don't hear her cries for help (or record her). The hourglass slowly fills up with sand, at the start there's only a little bit of sand that reaches her ankles. Then by 0:59, the sand already has crawled up to her waist. By 1:29, it almost completely covered Mu and she sits there defeated not even trying to call for help. And by 1:39, you see the last bit of sand threatening to fall out of the hourglass. The hourglass breaks when Mu stabs her crush right as the last grain of sand falls through, meaning that Mu no longer has to worry about the threat of suffocation. However she instead has to deal with the fact she stabbed someone, where she clearly hyperventilates and freaks out. [TW FOR MENTIONS OF SUICIDE BELOW] As for what the sand represents, my genuine theory is that it represents Mu's ability to deal with the bullying. There are a lot of allusions/implications/mentions of Mu being suicidal, and the hourglass even has a few of them (the noose at 0:35). It's likely that had she not had a fit of emotion while on her last thread, Mu would have killed herself when the hourglass ran out of sand. In essence, the hourglass is Mu's time before she ends up giving up and killing herself. However the trauma of murdering someone else shattered the hourglass, stopping Mu from taking her own life. In addition, there are very VERY explicit depictions of her "friends" taking advantage of Mu's kindness/wealth/desire to be liked. The cell phone texts show that Mu has given the bullies her own 'spare' lipstick (of an extremely expensive, designer lipstick) and they fawn over the fact that it's extremely good. Mu appears happy that they enjoy it, because by extension it means that they appreciate having Mu around. Which then contrasts with Mu getting poured water on, and them stepping on the same phone. The stanza that accompanies Mu with the bullies alongside Mu looking on at her phone is extremely telling of their relationship. "But I see it in my dreams even though I erased it / Maybe I’m done / Just one more time before saying goodbye / I’m just kidding, please forget I said that" The first time references to Mu thinking about the happier times (which likely wasn't that happy, but they still 'appreciated' Mu, or more accurately her wealth), and that she is tired of dealing with the bullying (which is backed up by the hourglass almost almost entirely running out of sand). Before she says goodbye to the world, Mu wants to be happy again with her former friends. Mu wishes to have their friendship back, from before they started bullying her. But since she views it as a selfish, impossible desire...she dismisses it as a "joke". Mu clearly wishes for the same happy, jokey scene before but since it's something out of reach then it's easier for her to laugh it off/distance herself from the idea. Another thing that people bring up is that "because Mu apologies a lot, this means that she's just faking it!" It's actually EXTREMELY common for people who are bullied heavily to apologize more than what is considered 'needed', since they feel like they're always in the wrong. It's why it's bad to aggressively ask someone why they're apologizing so much, because their instinctive response is to apologize for apologizing. As for why her apologies to the person she murdered end up getting weaker/not as emotional, it's likely that her crying so much/freaking out is physically exhausting her. Thus she gets more and more tired as she repeats her apologies, but it won't result in Mu being able to undo her mistake. This is starting to get long, but tl;dr: Mu is very clearly getting bullied and a lot of her scenes/mindset speaks directly as a bullying victim rather than someone who is pretending to be a bully victim.
@卑弥呼-f9b4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Plus do people not realize that even if Mu had given the bullies a "reason" to bully her, like being arrogant or something, it still would not be enough of a reason to bully her. 1. In fact, IF Mu had done something so horrible that she would have deserved bullying, then they would be at fault, because bullying wouldn't solve anything. But obviously we're not given any good reason for why Mu should be bullied, and I don't even think there is one. Like, being arrogant is not reason enough to be bullied, as if ANYTHING ever is. Plus that's most likely a rumor at first spread behind her back, so that the bullies feel better about bullying her by justifying it to themselves and other people. 2. I don't see any way Mu would gain something positive out of pretending to be bullied. I don't think that if she was pretending, that she would get her stuff broken, get laughed at, crude writings on chalkboard etc. Even if Mu did pretend, that shows that purple haired girl probably didn't really care. That being said, I absolutely agree with you, and think that Mu wasn't faking and that she is innocent. Purple haired girl just walked over Mu lying down on the floor, probably knowing what was happening, and just ignored it all. And sure, that's not as bad as bullying somebody and she didn't deserve to be killed, but it was still wrong. I think Mu stabbed PHG out of frustration and anger, but that it was an accident. I can't comprehend how people can look at her face in the end, and think that someone who's clearly hyperventilating and shaken up after killing somebody is faking it. And she expresses a LOT of regret over the course of the music video, unlike Fuuta, who just seems scared for HIS own life.
@yumerepaint82874 жыл бұрын
YES THANK YOU
@yasha50414 жыл бұрын
@@卑弥呼-f9b I COMPLETELY agree with you both. Mu did kill someone, but its obvious that she wasn't faking due to the hints throughout the video (I won't reiterate points). She was pushed to the point of completely snapping, and when she did, she most likely wasn't thinking about it at all. I mean, PHG was her crush, who just completely ignored her in her worst state and when she directly seemed to cry for help. There could be an argument that this murder was premeditated because for some reason, Mu had a box cutter. //TW FOR SUICIDE// However, due to the lyrics directly before her crush passes over her, I'm fairly certain that she had the box cutter to end her own life. "Maybe I'm done / Just one more time before saying goodbye / I'm just kidding, please forget I said that" The hourglass had just run out previously and saying "maybe I'm done" indicates that Mu couldn't handle it anymore. She probably felt hopeless, and had the boxcutter to kill herself and "say goodbye" so to speak. The school appeared almost completely empty, and it seemed to be evening. That might be why Mu stayed where she was for so long. Maybe she was just waiting for everyone to leave so nobody could stop her, and when PHG (her crush) passed by, she desperately reached out for help one last time. Obviously, she'd probably trust her crush and believe that maybe, she could have one person on her side. //TW OVER// When the person she cared for actively pulled away from her after she called out for help, its no wonder Mu lashed out. She was emotionally unstable due to going through so much bullying, not to mention that she's a teenager, which is one of the most emotional age groups (I probably don't need to go into detail on this). And once again, she was clearly still in that emotional state after killing, realizing what she'd done and panicking. So yeah, just adding onto you both. I really don't see how anyone could say Mu "deserved it" when it clearly hurt her so much. Nobody, especially not a CHILD, deserves to be pushed so far.
@CanIswearinmyhandle4 жыл бұрын
The whole idea of these songs are that they turned the prisoners memories and feelings into songs so they shouldn't be able to lie. Lots of people seem to think this is GameTheory and think way, WAY to hard about every little detail and end up missing the point. Muu were friends with 3 girls, two of them started bullying her (probably because they found out she's gay/bi and in love with the third girl), She reaches out to her former friend and gets rejected, loses it and does a murder.
@jplus88254 жыл бұрын
@@CanIswearinmyhandle yeah she's probably a lesbian because on 0:16 one of the writings of the board says ga◌ girl i think. it's on top of arrogant girl the biggest writing on the board
Another thing to note is that the girl she fell in love with was her seatmate. 1:17 Mu's desk is 5th row, 4th from the right (basing it on the light from the window compared to 3:31) 3:31 Flower (which Japanese schools put on deceased student's desks) is on the desk right beside Mu's On 1:22 Mu pushes her phone out of her desk towards that girl's desk while singing "Someone please help me." I think this furthers the interpretation that Mu and that girl were close before the bullying began. The person she liked most likely started ignoring her after the bullying because she didn't want to get involved (like how she hid the entire time in the bathroom stall instead of helping). Mu was actively asking for help from that girl but was ignored.
@plzleavemealone96602 жыл бұрын
Is there some ''facts'' about this on twitter. Because there's no scene that implies she loves the girl. すき can be platonic. Although not put into words most of the time when it is platonic. Which she doesn't do. She's also not bullied because she's gay. The reason why she's apologizing is because she thinks the reason why she's being treated like that is because she must have done something wrong. Which at the end she did. She was probably just her childhood friend. This often happens, at least in Japan. Childhood friends joining the bullies just so they themselves can keep their ''status'' in the classroom.
@allisonm.3232 жыл бұрын
@@plzleavemealone9660 hardly anything is a coincidence in Milgram, their theory is completely valid
@a100.3 Жыл бұрын
well , turns out muu put the flowers for a verry different reason...
Muu’s song is the only one in the first trial that shows the victim clearly with facial expressions.
@justdemi2585 Жыл бұрын
This may not be accurate since I didn't finish watching first trial MVs, but maybe it's bc Mu's the only one who knew her victim personally? Not 100% sure tho
@braindamage523 Жыл бұрын
@@justdemi2585mahiru’s victim was her boyfriend
@2E_34ZhangYinuoIno11 ай бұрын
Kazui knew his wife too. And Amane knew her mum/dad.
@justdemi258511 ай бұрын
@@2E_34ZhangYinuoIno Yeah I just now realised that lmao, like I said, I only started watching T1 MVs so I made this dumb theory
Reminder that we’re voting to FORGIVE or NOT FORGIVE the person, not if they’re innocent or guilty Everyone is, to some degree, guilty of their crime. We are just deciding if we forgive them or not
@hilmamufidah72864 жыл бұрын
What happen if the character not forgiven?
@kaedesakura92744 жыл бұрын
@@hilmamufidah7286 in the next trial the character will receive a less incriminating song with more focus on what make them forgivable. Noone knows what happens after the third trail tho.
@hilmamufidah72864 жыл бұрын
@@kaedesakura9274 is that so? Wow. I think I should learn more about Milgram stuff. I new here
@hilmamufidah72864 жыл бұрын
@@kaedesakura9274 owh! Thanks for the info
@chelle333334 жыл бұрын
most people rn are guessing that the final trail is when all the characters that aren't forgiven give their "final words" so to speak and the other characters react to what their votes are, but it's mostly speculation at this point. there's also Es' side plot to think about and look into soo yeah.
i cant be the only one who thinks the instrumental at the beginning sounds like the clacking of scissors and like a box cutter scratched against something?
@xoxolovez Жыл бұрын
HOLLYY COW I NEVER REALIZED THAT
@backdraftcel Жыл бұрын
@@xoxolovez it's certainly a bit subtle but its really cool if the composer did that intentionally!
one thing i noticed is that, if you listen carefully, there's this background sound of a clock ticking consistently up until the chorus each time (where it explodes in that bang! as she breaks out into the chorus, kind of like an alarm going off), and then disappears, only to reappear again for the verse. during the bridge, it's gone in the first part, but comes back when she's running towards the other girl at 2:10, and at 2:23 it goes out in it's usual kind of ring, but then reappears when she's confronting the girl -- and this time the clock ticking is much more audible, and slower than at any point in the track, kind of to emphasize how it's counting down to muu's breaking point -- when she stabs the girl. also important to note that this time when it 'rings', it's more aggressive than at any other points; compare 2:37 - 2:38 to 1:23 - 1:26 & 0:25 - 0:28; usually it kind of has that typical ringing tone kind of sound, but at her breaking point it's lacking that ring, just the aggressive percussive beat signaling her final break -- the hourglass being shattered. again at 3:22 the ticking comes back, but rather than erupting or ringing like before, it just stops, showing the finality of that hourglass shattering. bonus: unrelated to the clock ticking, but i like how from 3:07 to 3:20, when she's speaking her lines instead of singing them (the "i'm sorry" lines), she goes from sounding very meek and fragile, to apathetic and resolute.
@vojenido72363 жыл бұрын
You have good ears! The clock ticking is actually really cool, didn't notice that before
@gamjabyte3 жыл бұрын
you're first person I've seen to also notice the spoken "sorry" lines at the end and how they change! I think it's such a cool bit of the song that's all too easy to overhear-- also, incredible voice acting from arisa kouri ;)
@iluVioletLink2 жыл бұрын
this is such an amazing observation!! totally makes sense too since mu is themed around an hourglass throughout the MV
@nayabsanchez39722 жыл бұрын
YES OMG I WANTES TO MENTION 3:07-3:20 FOR THE LONGEST TIME CUZ I THOUGHT IT SOUNDED SO COOL, but also the clock ticking part was a good catch! That’s like a genius move ngl
A note - All of the stationary in Mu's bag is very sharp (pins, two box cutters, scissors, a compass) and at the start there's a noose in the hourglass with her. She's likely to be self harming, the writing on the chalkboards indicate this too
Everyone is talking about how Mu is such a terrible person because of her second trial and how it was uncovered that she was a manipulative pos, but doesn’t this MV kind of disprove that? We know these MVs represent how the inmates genuinely perceive themselves because of Mahiru’s MVs and interviews, and we saw her extremely distraught by the bullying she experienced and her murder, so isn’t it possible she actually is regretful and less calculative than she portrays herself as? We know that one of Milgram’s ultimate goals with all of this is to make us rethink and reconsider how we view murder and other heinous deeds by giving us not only multiple controversial stories with similar outcomes but also the power to decide whether we think they deserve forgiveness for their actions or not, and leaving Mu off with a terrible portrait of her self image is just a not good way to go about that. It’s more than possible for the third trial to reveal Mu doesn’t view herself as a monster (excessive, but fitting) or a victim exclusively but rather both at the same time. I think we should change our outlook on Mu from just one trial to all of the trials as a big picture, because once we do that it becomes clear she recognizes what she’s doing is wrong, but for some reason she feels she deserves the consequences or that she feels she is without any other course of action but to lie through her already difficult life. Probably just projecting, though
@noranekonyaa5801 Жыл бұрын
My girl got one dose of innocence and just goes full on "Yeah Not my Fault", definitely needs to grow more lul, just goes to show how easily influenced people can be
I relate to Muu deeply. I am currently in a really bad situation online and I feel like I have the exact same mindset as she has. I feel like I’ve been constantly switching between being the one hated on and the one to send hate. I feel like people have done bad things to me so I have lashed out and hated on them, and it keeps repeating. I can’t stop victimising myself unconsciously, I am aware that what I’m doing is bad and a lot of it is my fault but I don’t want it to be. A part of me is trying to push the blame onto others and claim that their actions have been the one to push me this far, but I don’t even know what is true everywhere. I have been extremely paranoid of everyone in this situation and am so scared that everyone is going to hate and hurt me, and some of the people who have blocked me or who I have felt I have hurt are people I used to consider friends, but I’m in the situation where I can only feel anger towards them. I have apologised a lot, but I never feels as my words of “I’m sorry” has reached anyone. And I feel as if I’m yelling into an endless void. Someone did reach out to me, to help me. But an incident happened where it felt like they betrayed me. I don’t know if it was a misunderstanding or not, but we got back together. But I am in the situation where I am eating on them to make a choice which could lead to me indefinitely hating them. I’ve felt like hating and lashing out in violence has been the only option and I can’t escape in any other way. That counterattack is the death of me. But if I feel like everyone suddenly accepts me I feel like I will slip into a mindset of nothing being my fault. And I feel like I am a complete monster for acting the way I am. If I look at Muu’s behaviour in trial 2. I really do feel like that I am going to destroy anyone who “betrays” me. That even a single like on a post that I feel like is targeting me makes them dead to me. I feel as I am controlling the people who still support me through victimising myself even if I don’t know it. I feel as though everyone is picking sides and I am the head person in charge of “my side”, and the monster. I’ve never thought about Muu that much but this situation has made me understand her so, so much more. I can now understand every action she’s made, why she lashed out against Rei and why she turned to be a bully, and the cycle she’s trapped in. I hate how people mischaracterise Muu and say she’s irredeemably evil or a manipulator, as someone in a very similar situation people assuming that about me is my biggest fear. And I feel scared for how she’s going to turn up in trial 3. But, I just need to respect how realistic Muu’s situation is and how it’s guiding me through a tough some, serving as some sort of cautionary tale. Muu and her story may be the way I could get out of this situation. So I have utmost respect to the creators of Milgram for portraying her character like this, as she resonates deeply with me.
@fellowmemer569310 ай бұрын
Hey man, just wanted to to let you know it gets better. Life is never a never ending cycle of hatred. I know you got this
@LanieMae10 ай бұрын
@@fellowmemer5693 yeah. I had a talk with someone online which managed to re inspire hope in me and stop hating myself so much. Currently I feel as though I can persist through this situation and I just needed to clear my mind and accept my mistakes, and move from there
@chara_lotte10 ай бұрын
It will change, life will be better, you`re not alone. :з
@有栖リリカ4 жыл бұрын
ムウちゃん可愛すぎかな
@rhymeswith9032 Жыл бұрын
Coming back here after the most recent song is so jarring
After watching the MV multiple times, reading theories and translating Japanese theories this is my conclusion. A lot of Japanese theories state the girl who was stabbed at the end was probably the first girl to get bullied and they ended up switching to Mu afterwards for some reason. I think that's correct since she has a face, somewhat similar to Mu's at some points in the video, maybe Mu saw a bit of herself in the other girl since they were both bullied. The part that best describes what I'm thinking is the eye colour, they both have green eyes most of the time but the other girl's eye colour changes to orange at 2:48 meaning at that point Mu may have realised she wasn't the same as her after all which led to Mu stabbing her. There are theories in both languages saying that Mu might love the other girl and I'd say it *could be* correct. It *could be* why the bullying target changed, if Mu confessed to the girl, the girl may have used that as an opportunity to get out of being bullied. She may have snitched on Mu and/or took advantage of the fact that Mu was willing to get bullied in her stead. Either way people probably started looking for Mu's flaws to justify themselves while harassing her, it's easy to overlook a person's negative traits when you consider them a friend but after turning on them, those are the first traits you think of when bad-mouthing said friend; Things like "I always thought she acted arrogant" will make them sound like a victim or kind person in their own heads, "I overlooked her negative traits for too long" or something of the like. Leading to the line 1:27 where it's stated they made her the villain. Mu was most likely unaware she sounded arrogant leading to the lines at 0:42 - 0:55. It was natural for her to act the way she did since people always "let her off" and never told her that she was acting snobby until they full on bullied her (due to her wealth probably) which makes her question, "Is it okay to breathe?" In the end it seems she doesn't know what to do other than apologise but it didn't work. The other girl probably started ignoring Mu after she became the target of bullying (1:27 - 1:38 lines may be related) which led to Mu chasing her at the end. She probably got scared at that point and shook Mu off, maybe she didn't want to suffer again? Either way this leads Mu to stabbing her since she probably felt betrayed at this point, my theory has gone full circle so I'd stop but I mightmention some things I'm less certain about in the replies.
@jamuskite4 жыл бұрын
So do you forgive her? Personally, I do since this hit a bit too close to home. I also think the bystander girl that Mu liked was, well, unfortunate, however she didn't really help Mu who was actually about to sister snap, you know?
@Siebenn4 жыл бұрын
@@jamuskite Yeah I forgive Mu, I think she needs therapy rather than any punishment tbh.
@jamuskite4 жыл бұрын
@@Siebenn she defo needs therapy. And a safe environment right after too. I just dont know if im ready for her next mv, since im assuming its going to be way more incriminating than this one
@Siebenn4 жыл бұрын
@@jamuskite Yeah it's gonna be sad seeing 80% possibly turning to less than 40% (worse case scenario) but I'm interested in seeing how it'll go at the same time.
@jplus88254 жыл бұрын
@@jamuskite how do you guys vote whether they should be forgiven or if they're guilty? i went to the website but i can't understand anything
just realized that with Mu standing at the begining 0:16 at the teachers lectern showing that she used to have control over the class but lost it, leading to her sitting at a student seat later on after getting bullied. At the end after the murder she moves again to stand in from of the teacher lectern, possibly showing that she regained control, but with a price of punishment.
@vibealong1191 Жыл бұрын
After I viewed "It's not my fault" I don't think I can look at After Pain the same anymore yall-
@Ruirjdkd77 Жыл бұрын
Me too.....
@Finally_in_reverse10 ай бұрын
Tbh, there were hints that Muu wasn't an innocent angel in After Pain too (keep in mind, this is how the prisoners view themself, and Muu kept victimizing herself in AP)
This one is pretty straight forward than the other ones. Mu was friends with a group of girls, but then they turned on and started bullying her. One day, she chased after one of these friends, who was most likely the one she was closest to, and asked her why she had turned on her. The friend just turned her away, and Mu killed her in a fit of anger.
@sora666bad44 жыл бұрын
I think that they bully her because she was in love with the girl and ask the girl out.
@explolsivecake20454 жыл бұрын
What I got from it is that she was kinda agreeing with them in an toxic relationship sort of way, like denial. Since she outright says that it was simple might mean she’s in denial of the whole story. Maybe this detail doesn’t matter but idk man
@Neptunya4 жыл бұрын
The girl she kills at the end is separate from her friend group. You can see her friend group at 1:53 on the broken phone, and notice how the girl at 2:01 doesn't match any of them.
@kokoro79964 жыл бұрын
Anna Mai Perhaps the girl didn’t bully Mu, but didn’t do anything about it either.
@hh16234 жыл бұрын
Everyone the shoes of purple girl it not same. Mu killed the wrong person. It her twin.
@iluVioletLink3 жыл бұрын
apparently KZbin decided that out of all the milgram prisoner songs so far this one is worthy of being promoted by the algorithm (it has the most views out of the other prisoner songs so far, excluding undercover)
@matariimau3 жыл бұрын
i actually got an ad for this mv, it’s how i even found out about milgram!
@iluVioletLink3 жыл бұрын
@@matariimau an ad... that's very interesting. welcome to the fandom and have fun reading/making theories :D
@matariimau3 жыл бұрын
@@iluVioletLink thank you for the warm welcome! having a fun time so far :-)
@unitymask3 жыл бұрын
can confirm, it showed up in my home section even before i knew what milgram was
@itadoriglazer3 жыл бұрын
month later and its still here
@Akiyuki_Shin3 ай бұрын
If this song is released on the 2nd trial instead of the first one, People would think of Muu differently, sometimes it's just the timing and how it can easily shift people's opinions without looking much deeper into it.
@ApricotStone Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh the girl Muu killed isn’t even in the photo of Muu and her old friends at 1:54. I honestly don’t think that girl was bullying Muu at all and it was just her crap friends who turned on her. The dark haired girl then walks by Muu seeing that she’s now getting bullied and can’t bring herself to feel bad for her. Ugh and with the new MV, this all makes sense-
@crystalfeline Жыл бұрын
So this girl was literally just a random student passing by, completely unrelated to Muu’s situation, and then Muu just lashes out and kills her? …holy shit dude…
@thebingus7243 Жыл бұрын
@@crystalfeline No, her victim was related to it. She was the one who likely who got mu to be bullied in after pain. i believe mu's third trial video likely will delve into their relationship as it's the only missing piece of the puzzle. we've established that mu was bullied, and got the tables turned on her, but we still dont know HOW that happened or what her victim did to make it happen.
@ApricotStone Жыл бұрын
@@crystalfeline No no watch the new MV. I don’t want to say more than that-
@abbybrown7379 Жыл бұрын
@@thebingus7243 It's pretty clear that the victim was apart of her social group until Mu got the group to turn on her thus "shattering her". The victim then leaks the group chats that Mu had sent about the other members of the group (because it was all back stabbing and whispers, that's why she steps on the phone in this MV and shatters the other one in the second trial). Mu then is the one who is pushed out of the group by her friends, she blames her vicitim for the one who was the one to turn her friends against her (despite the fact she had done the exact same thing to countless other girls), she then kills the victim in an act of rage and sort of "how dare just a pest do this to me the queen". I think it's really interesting that Mu was the first character to see themselves as non-human, I think imply that we got the verdict wrong on the first go around, a sort of oh look, I'm actually a wolf/bee queen beneath my sheep facade.
@anna.owo. Жыл бұрын
@@ApricotStone silence is violence. she knew mu was physically bulied and did nothing. She did not deserve to be hurt but in Mu's broken state is something that could happen.