MILGRAM / Amane - Magic [The First Trial Music Video]

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“I'm going to be a good girl now! That's it!”
Vocal: Amene (CV: Minami Tanaka)
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Lyrics: DECO*27
Music: DECO*27
Arrangement: Rockwell
Movie by OTOIRO
Director: DMYM
Mascot Designer: lowpolydog
Character Designer & Key Animator: Sunao Chikaoka(SUNAMARU),Tomoyo Sawada(SUNAMARU)
Animator / Finishing: staron
Chibi-Gram Director: awashima
Chibi-Gram Assistant: 1024
Background Artist: Miyuki Onodera (MAKARIA)
Background Manager: Rin Tanabe(MAKARIA)
Prop designer: Yuka Fujii
Composite / CG: NNNuventus
Animal cast: Emma,Neo,Nemuri
Project Manager: Iori Majima
Art Director: DMYM
Original Character Designer: akka
Story / Author: Takuya Yamanaka
"Magic" Instrumental
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Lyrics:
Magic
This happy pinky promise hurts to break
They said it more than enough
It’s the sorry spells
But it’s not scary at all, because it’s love
I can actually think of it as a good thing, see isn’t it a great thing?
Dear wise one, Am I worthy?
Is it ok to spoil myself?
I promise! A pinky promise is a pinky promise!
Even I can say "I'm sorry"
Even I have hope
I swear! I'm going to be a good girl now! That's it!
Not meaning to brag but I’m pretty happy
I’ve made up my mind so they don’t make that face at me again
But it’s not scary at all, because it’s love
I can really think it’s great. See isn’t it a great thing?
Dear wise one, Is this ok?
Is it ok to be weak sometimes?
I promise! A good girl that keeps a promise is like, mwah!
I won’t say “I’ve had enough”
Will you laugh with me and forgive me?
I promise! I can only become a better girl!
Only if, only if, only if I could be a good girl
I hope, I hope everyone can be happy and smile
Forever, forever together would be a dream
Dear wise one, Am I worthy?
Is it ok to spoil myself?
I promise! A pinky promise is a pinky promise!
Even I can say "I'm sorry"
Even I have hope
I swear! I'm going to be a good girl now! That's it!
Dear wise one, Is this ok?
Is it ok to be weak sometimes?
I promise! A good girl that keeps a promise is like, mwah!
I won’t say “I’ve had enough”
Will you laugh with me and forgive me?
I take an oath! I can only become a better girl!
©MILGRAM

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@anymousecandraw
@anymousecandraw 3 ай бұрын
it has taken me an embarassingly long amount of time to realise that the background vocals at the end (last three lines) have her speaking, almost crying, instead of singing like she's genuinely desperate and promising to be/do better
@the_clover_star
@the_clover_star 3 ай бұрын
I’m going to cry now
@starpeep5769
@starpeep5769 2 ай бұрын
A year ago I saw a comment on that while listening to that part
@akatuki_2000
@akatuki_2000 3 жыл бұрын
「でも全然怖くないですよ、愛だから」って虐待を愛だと思い込ませられて、周りから心配されても大丈夫って言ってる感じがする
@moka9467
@moka9467 3 жыл бұрын
おまじない=洗脳?
@ひま-z8t
@ひま-z8t 3 жыл бұрын
「私だって希望はあるんだよ」もなんか周りから希望がないって思われてるってことなんですかね?3ヶ月前のコメントに返信失礼しました🙇‍♂️
@huwarari9926
@huwarari9926 3 жыл бұрын
「私も甘えちゃっていいですか」 アマネちゃん普段いつも真面目で勉強好きで大人びたところもあるけど 本心では子供達みたいに甘えてたい 我儘を言いたいとか アマネちゃんは内心そう思ってそう
@crewnowar3740
@crewnowar3740 3 жыл бұрын
@@moka9467 おまじないって漢字で書くと「お呪い」なんですよね… 関係ありますかね?
@akatuki_2000
@akatuki_2000 3 жыл бұрын
@可愛い熱帯魚 な、なんですかそれ……!
@ブランシュ-l4b
@ブランシュ-l4b 3 жыл бұрын
ちょっと考えたんだけど、ハルカくんのMV内の歌詞に出る「愛される弱者になりたかった」とアマネちゃんの歌詞「いい子になるしかない」って、まったくの真逆の発想だよね? ハルカくんが「愛される弱者になりたい」と思うのは多分、自分が弱くても駄目でも愛されたい・認められたいという願望から来てるはず 対してアマネちゃんの「いい子になるしかない」は、駄目な所を見せると認めてもらえないとかペナルティが飛んだりするから、いい子になるしかないと強迫観念を抱いていると思われる ハルカくん、ただでさえ小さい子ども苦手だけど、この違いも踏まえて考えると、この2人は絶望的に相性悪いなぁと思ってくる
@リリィ-r5t
@リリィ-r5t 3 жыл бұрын
「自慢ってほどでもないですが私は幸せです」 って言ってるあたりハルカが聞いたら えらいことなりそう、、
@yaboicleid9583
@yaboicleid9583 3 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOSH BLUE CHEESE DECIDED TO JOIN HAHAAHAHAHAHAAH food fantasy x Milgram when
@huwarari9926
@huwarari9926 3 жыл бұрын
ハルカくんとアマネちゃん 関係ギクシャクしてそう…不仲やな
@negai-t4m
@negai-t4m 5 ай бұрын
アマネ(おまじない)『「もういい」なんて言わないです』 ハルカ(弱肉共食)『もういいよ』 😨😨😨
@sみなこ-h2c
@sみなこ-h2c Ай бұрын
​@@negai-t4mそれ考えるとシドウさんもスローダウンでもういいよって言ってたような!?
@ぺむ-p1v
@ぺむ-p1v 3 жыл бұрын
どなたかが言ってた猫の怪我を直す手段に祈りを提案したリヨネの耳が絆創膏なの皮肉だよね、ってコメントに鳥肌
@asagi872
@asagi872 Жыл бұрын
患者には医療行為を教義として禁じておきながら、団体の幹部は科学の力を享受してるっていう矛盾を表してるのかなあと思いました。どうなんでしょう。
@tekitouniikiru005
@tekitouniikiru005 10 ай бұрын
@@asagi872その話実際にある宗教であったものですね。
@EdgeLie
@EdgeLie 10 ай бұрын
​@@tekitouniikiru005loosely based yes, but not an actual event (a similar one happening wouldn't surprise me tho)
@9yano579
@9yano579 Жыл бұрын
最初はただの聞き間違えだったけど、歌詞を見て「誓います」だって知ってるのに、今でも「違います」に聞こえちゃう…。 おかげで、  甘えちゃっていいですか⇒違います  希望はあるんだよ⇒違います  弱くたっていいですか⇒違います  赦してくれますか⇒違います に聞こえて複雑な気持ちになる…。いや、甘えられず希望はなく弱いことが赦されずってのはなんか、アマネちゃんの境遇と合ってる気もするけど、だから余計複雑な気持ちになる…。
@ミンティア-p6k
@ミンティア-p6k Жыл бұрын
実際にPVの中で「誓います」ってとこでバツついてるから狙ってるんじゃないかなあ…
@riverthecrybaby9448
@riverthecrybaby9448 9 ай бұрын
そうだな。僕は僕の耳が下手に思った。でも、あなたは天才です!
@yuki_yukine
@yuki_yukine 3 жыл бұрын
正直アマネちゃんに関しては赦すにしても赦さないにしても「神様じゃない人の審判」だから本人の意思は変わらないと思う
@MilgramTranslation
@MilgramTranslation 10 ай бұрын
私は彼女が彼女の状況のせいであるとは思いません(まあ、誰もが独自の理論と結論を持っています^^!)
@yourhighnessshanzay
@yourhighnessshanzay 10 ай бұрын
you predicted something
@starpeep5769
@starpeep5769 8 ай бұрын
​@@yourhighnessshanzayyup
@Imkindajusthere
@Imkindajusthere 2 жыл бұрын
The fact the jackalope laughed at everyone voting her guilty to "realise her sins" gives me shivers down my spine
@imacupcake
@imacupcake 2 жыл бұрын
right 😭
@Ramen46238
@Ramen46238 2 жыл бұрын
It was like disgusting I don’t know but i felt a little bit nauseous watching that part. ALSO WHY DID IT TAKE ME SO LONG TO SPELL NAUSEOUS 💀 😭 ✋
@dualswords3303
@dualswords3303 2 жыл бұрын
In voice drama she stated that she don't give a shit what we think. No idea why we think this would work.
@LadsHasMeOnLeash
@LadsHasMeOnLeash 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I'm new here by discovering a song on Spotify, but where can I find the voice drama etc. They is a lot of things I'm not aware of. Thank you for any explanation
@imnotfunny9735
@imnotfunny9735 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ramen46238 BECAUSE ITS HARD TO SLELL
@shigo9373
@shigo9373 2 жыл бұрын
i like how her 'transformation' after being punished was not much, just her ribbon changing which really showed how influenced she was from the start
@diastreblwsh
@diastreblwsh 2 жыл бұрын
sorry if i got the wrong person but SHIGO??
@shigo9373
@shigo9373 2 жыл бұрын
@@diastreblwsh IRINI ?!?$!?'!?' IN THE KZbin COMMENT SECTION?!?'!:?!: hi
@egoistph
@egoistph Жыл бұрын
wtf same ish pfp
@shigo9373
@shigo9373 Жыл бұрын
@@egoistph hi fellow lain enjoyer
@Byssa6
@Byssa6 Жыл бұрын
She also grew wings
@登場登場
@登場登場 Жыл бұрын
1:08 アマネちゃんが嫌だと思ってることは〇で、良いと思っていることは‪✕‬にされてる
@crorico
@crorico 3 ай бұрын
そういう見方もあるのか!凄い!
@動画視聴用-x3k
@動画視聴用-x3k 3 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃんは悪くない。ただ彼女を無罪とすることは彼女の行いは「正しいこと」であったと認めることにもなる。 言い換えれば彼女を洗脳した人達の行為の肯定になるので、洗脳が解けないまま一生生きていくことになる。 アマネちゃんを救う為には有罪とするべきなんじゃないのかなあ……
@そらいろ-i7m
@そらいろ-i7m 3 жыл бұрын
2:45の羽、なんでピンクなんだって思ったらもとから着てた服を裏返しにしてるのか かわいいなぁ〜可愛いけど怖いくて悲しいよ
@零れい-m4z
@零れい-m4z 3 жыл бұрын
考察(長文注意) アマネちゃんは小さい時から宗教を信じていて(信じさせられていて)、教理に反することをすると「愛」という名目で罰を受けていて、どんな罰を受けてもその宗教を信じることを「幸せ」と信じていて(信じさせられて)いた。ある時傷を負った人を信者たちが神様のお祈りで直そうとしたけど一向に治らず、見かねたアマネちゃんが手当しようとしたら「神様の力を信じていない」として罰を受けて、その時にその人を見捨ててしまいその人が死んだため、「殺した」ということになった(最後のエンディングのようなシーンに怪我をしていた猫がいなかったため)。 最後の画面をながめるアマネちゃんは、過去のことを振り返り、宗教のせいで何が正しいのか、自分はなんなのかわからなくなったアマネちゃん。また、MVが子供向け番組風で、最後にその番組を見るアマネちゃんがでてくることから、アマネちゃんは子供向け番組を見るくらいの年齢から宗教を信じさせられていて、最後の目が死んでいるアマネちゃんは洗脳されたと考えることもできる。 【追記】今回のMVとは関係ないが、アマネちゃんのランドセルには宗教のシールが貼られているが、それがはがされた跡があり、宗教を信仰していることが理由で学校でいじめられていた可能性がある。
@pulpulnzenzenman
@pulpulnzenzenman 3 жыл бұрын
90%は絶対合ってる
@ピカリン-e2c
@ピカリン-e2c 2 жыл бұрын
この子わからんなぁ思ってたけどそれか
@The_University_of_Tokyo
@The_University_of_Tokyo 3 ай бұрын
こっちの方がまだ救いありそう
@ニコフラ
@ニコフラ Жыл бұрын
この子に必要なのは「カウンセリング」です
@yourhighnessshanzay
@yourhighnessshanzay 5 ай бұрын
I Agree With This Statement
@メロンソーダ-q8t
@メロンソーダ-q8t 3 жыл бұрын
歌詞見ないで聞くと、サビの「誓います」が「違います」聞こえる。 私も甘えちゃっていいですか→違います(否定)→やぶっちゃうだなんて悪い子は めっ!だよ 私だって希望はあるんだよ→違います(否定)→もういい子になるしかない!ですよ もしこうだとしたら、アマネちゃんは普段甘えることも許されないし、希望はないんじゃないかなって思った
@らめたそ
@らめたそ 6 ай бұрын
クイズで不正解の時に誓いますって言ってるからめっちゃ濃厚だよね
@アイスマン-w4j
@アイスマン-w4j 3 жыл бұрын
歌詞の隅々に「ですよ」「ですか」みたいな言い直しがある所に違和感.なんというか子供のような無邪気さに無理やり礼儀正しさを貼り付けたような言葉.誰かに強制されていたのかな。
@ポテチラビット
@ポテチラビット 3 ай бұрын
1分ぐらのときかな
@Mewkityy
@Mewkityy 3 жыл бұрын
"There's only one thing worse than a murderer" *ripping sounds* "A child"
@chloe6839
@chloe6839 3 жыл бұрын
THIS COMMENT
@elleiguess1124
@elleiguess1124 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@laylarinla5370
@laylarinla5370 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@platsew912
@platsew912 3 жыл бұрын
SJSHGSF😂😂😂😂😂😂
@NeckTie_Lucifer
@NeckTie_Lucifer 3 жыл бұрын
PFFF- LMAOO
@あいあう-i7e
@あいあう-i7e 3 жыл бұрын
1回つき倒したあと手を差し伸べるのあめムチ方式で洗脳されちゃうよね怖すぎ…
@しおちゃん-e5v
@しおちゃん-e5v 3 жыл бұрын
ラスサビ前のガチャタ、何してるのかなぁって考えてたんだけど目覚ましっぽい頭のアレが動いてるのを見るにアマネちゃんを寝かさなかったんじゃ?と思い至った 人って睡眠時間奪われると判断力も落ちるし実際に洗脳(拷問?)とかで使われてたものっぽいし
@amedaishouri
@amedaishouri 3 жыл бұрын
So there are quite a few theories for Amane going around, and a lot of it is scattered information, but I wanted to post something with what I’ve interpreted from the music video and lyrics as well as pose my own theory. The one that came to mind immediately was the fixation on the cult aspect because that’s all I had seen before the official MV and song’s release. I still believe that the cult plays a large role in this, for reasons I will disclose below, but after watching the music video I’m starting to think that the magical girl aesthetic plays a larger role than simply being a metaphor for how Amane feels about the cult. In short, I believe that Amane is acting as the poster child for the cult and they’re even televising their “teachings” under the guise of a children’s show. There seem to be a lot of elements to me that indicate that everything is staged (for one, the stage light that “accidentally” falls at 1:34) as well as the fact that there is an intro and an outro that are reminiscent of children shows I used to watch when I was younger (the first one that came to mind being Yo Gabba Gabba). The video continues onto a character introduction sequence--the first one is Gachata, the Strict Robot. Gachata seems to be a teacher of sorts that teaches kids how to behave “properly,” which wouldn’t be too out of place in a kid’s show. He seems to place a heavy emphasis on waking up early, attending to one’s studies diligently, and also keeping things tidy. The next character to be introduced is Yuri, the Compassionate Big Bro, who seems to be playing the role of a beggar asking for donations--and as seen in the music video he receives quite a few donations. This represents the underhanded methods that the cult may employ to get money from unsuspecting individuals, but it also could represent the donations that come from others who have been indoctrinated. (It’s important to take note of the animals that appear in this sequence). The sequence after Yuri’s intro is a scene that appears to be reminiscent of a Japanese game show where they are asking Amane for the “right answer,” and she evidently gets it wrong and she is then punished by Gachata who flicks her forehead and causes her to fall over comically. This means that Amane continuously minimizes the punishments she receives by seeing them as nothing more than light admonishments even though they likely went beyond what is normal when scolding a child. She is then helped up by who I assume to be Yuri (based on the white glove and five fingers), which seems like the fifth stage of cult indoctrination. They’re giving Amane “tough love” by punishing her and then being kind to her afterward once she learns to “be a good girl.” If that’s the case, then it means that Amane wasn’t fully indoctrinated into the cult, but I’ll cover its relevance later. After this, Gozake, the Strange Monk, is introduced and his role appears to be as the spiritual leader--the one who spreads the teachings and ideology within the cult. I hope you remembered the animals from Yuri’s sequence because if you’re paying close attention another animal seems to have joined--one who hasn’t donated to the cult--an orange cat. Then, Riyome, the Energetic Tomboy, gets an intro card, but no role afterward (although based on her bandaid design we could be led to believe that she’s a healer of sorts). However, instead of her helping those who are injured the next sequence that plays is the stage light falling on top of the orange cat. Here, I believe that Riyome’s role is much more sinister than the previous characters. After all, the cult has to spread their teachings, and what could possibly be more convincing than a live demonstration of their teachings? Just in case you didn't know, stage lights are pretty darn secure. They don’t suddenly fall like that unless they’re simply that old, but they’re often checked and tested _before_ anyone gets near them which means that the stage light was likely sabotaged, by who? Of course, you’ve probably guessed it by now, but it was likely Riyome. This is further evidenced by the fact that she conveniently manages to bring up one of the cult’s teachings--that spiritual medicine and guidance are all that is required to heal physical afflictions. This is where Amane not being fully indoctrinated comes into play. For the first time (that we see), Amane seems to doubt their words. She watched as the cat suffered and wondered if this was really something that could be solved by praying and wishing for better health (1:52). The next scene that plays is absolutely heart-wrenching. Amane heals the cat using actual medicine, you know, science and not some spiritual prayer. The four characters from before catch Amane just as she seems to be trying to convince the cat to keep what she did a secret which is why both of them are so shocked to be found. Some look disappointed, others (looking at you Riyome & Gachata) are downright terrifying. Then, we see a sequence of Amane receiving different punishments from each of the characters--a majority of them corporal punishments. First is Riyome, who appears to be electrocuting Amane, which, when considering her role in the cult (setting up “accidents” where people get hurt so that they can be magically healed through prayer and if they don’t get healed then they just didn’t believe hard enough) isn’t too surprising. Next, is Gozake which reminds me of the old tradition where monks would meditate under ice-cold waterfalls, he may have repeatedly poured ice-cold water on Amane to replicate this. Next, is Yuri, the supposed “Compassionate Big Bro” who seems to have no problem raising his hand against Amane and physically hitting her (extended arm and comic book effects often used when striking). Finally, we see Gachata who seems to be ringing the alarm that is too loud for Amane, representative of the fact that he verbally scolds her for her actions. I imagine that while this happens they try to push the blame onto Amane, that the reason she’s suffering is because _she_ broke a promise and wasn’t a good girl. And as the sequence would have us believe...they don’t punish her just once, they repeat until she’s been completely brainwashed and accepting of the cult’s teachings. This is evidenced in the following scene where Amane picks herself up and clasps her hands together in prayer before undergoing a “magical girl” transformation. There are rings around her eyes that weren’t there before, she gets a “magic wand,” her bowtie changes to a brooch of sorts with the cult’s symbol (a cloud with what appear to be smiling faces on it), and wings in the shape of a cloud appear behind her. Then, we see Amane’s crime take place--but only for a second (2:47). She raises the “magic wand” and administers divine punishment on the non-believer (the cat she helped from earlier) while the four characters watch and cheer her on. As we can see from Undercover, Amane appears to be beating her victim with a rod, and her voice line when committing her crime is, “I’m sorry, I’m sorry. I’m sorry for breaking the rules!” The next sequence that plays is Amane fully accepting her role and spreading the cult’s teachings while saying things like, “I won’t say ‘I’ve had enough [of this cult].’ Will you laugh with me and forgive me?” And behind her singing, you can hear Amane practically begging them to forgive her (2:56-3:03). And then the outro plays and we can see the credits roll--evidently, Amane’s title is “Happiness Support Sister.” So, overall, the video is a happy fun time where nothing goes wrong! /s With the information we have, I can’t see Amane as anything _but_ innocent, if anything she’s a victim as well. However, I can’t help but worry that if we vote her innocent it would only solidify her belief that what the cult had her do was the “right” thing to do. What do you guys think?
@thefallenblue
@thefallenblue 3 жыл бұрын
this is an interesting interpretation! and a good point I didn't think about at first, I wonder if voting her innocent will make her think her actions were okay... though I don't feel right putting all the blame on her for this either, since y'know... the straight up horrifying manipulation and abuse ;; I guess this is another reminder that this binary voting system is set up to be full of holes in the first place. We don't even know where voting either will lead, but we're in for the ride I suppose. what does the shifty rabbit want with us...
@ruthalcantara3251
@ruthalcantara3251 3 жыл бұрын
Ahaha I love your theory and it’s so sad, but I do agree with you that She probably would end up going back into the cult and going through the cycle of abuse. Even thought I wanted to vote for her, but it might be better for her to stay in prison then go back.
@thefallenblue
@thefallenblue 3 жыл бұрын
@@ruthalcantara3251 Yeah... that's the thing, as with many of the trials the answer we're forced to make won't fix most of them. What does forgive mean? Are we setting them free? They don't have to atone for what they did? Because they are all essentially guilty of what happened. But what is not forgiving them, the death penalty? Life in prison/Milgram? If we look at it one way that won't solve it or be fair. Many of these characters need therapy, or the degree of their crime isn't only their fault, do they deserve to die on behalf of everything that happened? Like here, I agree, I'm so afraid she might be broken after all that but it's also not her fault, is leaving a child in prison okay? Or giving her the death penalty for this? If anything someone needs to go after that "cult" before they cause more problems... but I'm just rambling, this system was never stated to be fair haha. In the end the vote is your choice, we can only see how this goes and appreciate the amazing songs and animation along the way. It's interesting to think about how Milgram itself ties into this, I wonder how much we'll find out in the future
@amedaishouri
@amedaishouri 3 жыл бұрын
@@thefallenblue Yeah, I think that with a lot of these characters receiving _proper_ help and therapy is better than something like the death penalty/remaining in the MILGRAM (jail) forever or they get to go off scot-free. Though I do have a theory that the MILGRAM may be an experiment with some sort of 'Gotcha!' ending, I can't be sure. I am interested to see what happens as a result of our voting in the second round of trials.
@thefallenblue
@thefallenblue 3 жыл бұрын
@@amedaishouri since Milgram itself is the name of a psychology experiment I have the same feeling, and Es and the Jackalope are huge mysteries as well. Though, I'm also very curious to see the consequences of our actions. Just two prisoners left already hmm...
@わらびもち-z4u
@わらびもち-z4u 10 ай бұрын
歌詞の中に出てくる愛だからって言う言葉が アマネちゃん自身が暴力を振るわれていることに対して これは愛なんだって自分自身を納得 させようとしてるのが伝わってくるのが なんか……悲しいよね……
@ann3343
@ann3343 3 жыл бұрын
やっぱり純粋な信者っぽい気がする なんか怪我しちゃった猫をあまねちゃんは手当てをしたけど、周りは手当てするな、神に祈れば解決するみたいな考えで手当てしたあまねちゃんは「神を信じてない」と認識された?それで暴力を振るわれて、あまねちゃんも神様の教えを破る人は殺してもいいって考えになって殺人した、誰かは分からん…親かな…
@久保アイリ
@久保アイリ 3 жыл бұрын
あまり実写じゃないのも、現実は写せない(写したくない)ほど辛いものだからなんだろうな。箱庭療法とか、抽象物でやっと表現出来るような…
@まる-u2b
@まる-u2b 2 жыл бұрын
それすごい思いました…… 滅茶苦茶怖くて アマネちゃんには幸せになって欲しいと思うばかりです……
@whyrubuyingclothesatasoupstore
@whyrubuyingclothesatasoupstore 2 жыл бұрын
I like that her crime isn't even mentioned in the lyrics and can only be somewhat deciphered through the video (with the orange cat being the only character missing in the end of the mv), because to Amane that's not the important part, what's important is that she broke the rules and was punished for it
@imnotfunny9735
@imnotfunny9735 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m TRHING yo figure out what she did I’m scared because idk if she killed the cat
@whyrubuyingclothesatasoupstore
@whyrubuyingclothesatasoupstore 2 жыл бұрын
@@imnotfunny9735 yeah sorry she probably did. good (?) news is that the animals probably represent actual people so she didn't kill a literal cat
@imnotfunny9735
@imnotfunny9735 2 жыл бұрын
@@whyrubuyingclothesatasoupstore thank god
@ConfettiiCereal
@ConfettiiCereal 2 жыл бұрын
@@imnotfunny9735 I think the cat might b a human but they used a cat 4 symbolism or sumthing
@imnotfunny9735
@imnotfunny9735 2 жыл бұрын
@@ConfettiiCereal yeah they did
@リョウ-q8i
@リョウ-q8i Жыл бұрын
問題を出されてるとこアマネ自身が○って思ってるとこが不正解だったり1:09のアマネと他2マスコットの○×が逆になってんのはここではまだアマネの感性は一般に近くて宗教とは乖離してたって言う表現されてんのかなこれ もしあってるならこれ怖すぎるな
@るんるん-3256
@るんるん-3256 3 жыл бұрын
0:55 のとこ「誓います」じゃなくてずっと「違います」だと思ってたんだけど、それでも歌詞が成り立つの怖いな…
@Hiyori_Cat
@Hiyori_Cat 3 жыл бұрын
この曲を聞く限り、アマネちゃんを赦す=宗教の肯定的な感じがしてどっちを取るかなんだよな…………。許さない方がアマネちゃんのためになる気も……いやうぬん……
@きつめ-u9x
@きつめ-u9x 3 жыл бұрын
怪我した子の後ろにお祈りポーズあるから、神様たちはお祈りで直そうとしたのにアマネちゃんが手当てしたから、「お祈り信じてないのか!」って神様が怒ったのかな
@gdpjpwp
@gdpjpwp 3 жыл бұрын
怒ったのは 周りのイカれた大人やろな
@まる-u2b
@まる-u2b 2 жыл бұрын
怖すぎる……
@helloex-6767
@helloex-6767 2 жыл бұрын
神様を信じてはいるけど流石に神様の祈りで手当をしてもらうっていうのは無理だと分かって手当はした物の周りの人達に怒られ罰としてアマネちゃんに拷問を受けさせ 神様という存在を完全没頭にし結果 アマネちゃんも祈りで怪我を治す行為というものを知ってしまった…と考えたらマジで怖い
@凪-j9w
@凪-j9w 2 жыл бұрын
実際一審の結果で人間関係が変わった時シドウが神に祈ることじゃなくて治療をしたからなのかシドウのこと嫌ってたしなー
@Mitokon_Doria
@Mitokon_Doria Жыл бұрын
宗教の押し付けって感じか?
@皐月-l3v
@皐月-l3v 3 жыл бұрын
個人的にはこういった歌なのにお父さん、お母さん、パパ、ママみたいな歌詞が出てこないことが凄く怖い
@暗宮夜見
@暗宮夜見 27 күн бұрын
おまじない、ミルグラム勧められたときにムウちゃんの一審二審見たあとくらいに見せてもらったんだけど、最初の方の募金のところで「札ばっかりだし量多すぎない?新興宗教じゃないのこれ?」って言ったら進めてくれた人に「なんで分かるんだよ」って言われたのは良い思い出 今ではどハマりです
@gento8704
@gento8704 3 жыл бұрын
洗脳を解いてあげたいから赦さないを選ぶという考え方もわかるけど、洗脳を解いて元の生活に戻したらまたアマネちゃんは苦しむ羽目になると思う 一般的な『普通』がアマネちゃんにとっての幸せに繋がるとは限らないのが難しいところ
@TogerLiker
@TogerLiker 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe Amane's parents were antivaxxers and they punished her for healing a kitty with medicine instead of prayers
@Laydoe1
@Laydoe1 3 жыл бұрын
Why did i find this funny
@aniinnnn
@aniinnnn 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@0riginal_zer030
@0riginal_zer030 3 жыл бұрын
No, they're worse... They're faith healers. They got another one, the sick bastards!
@snoweleis
@snoweleis 3 жыл бұрын
Nice indra icon
@jundoun3275
@jundoun3275 3 жыл бұрын
ROFLMAO
@Toma-kf5bi
@Toma-kf5bi 3 жыл бұрын
ハルカ&ユノ→子供 フータ&ムウ→友達 マヒル&シドウ→恋愛 カズイ&アマネ→家族愛??
@arlo6121
@arlo6121 3 жыл бұрын
カズイとアマネ - 約束, 多分
@Toma-kf5bi
@Toma-kf5bi 3 жыл бұрын
@@arlo6121 たしかに!呪いとおまじないは紙一重な感じしますしね、、!
@arlo6121
@arlo6121 3 жыл бұрын
@@Toma-kf5bi 「呪いと呪いは紙一重な感じしますね」って言いました? ごめんね私の日本語は悪いなら(私はまだ日本語を勉強しています)。
@3510desutte
@3510desutte 3 жыл бұрын
@@arlo6121 確かに呪い(のろい)も、御呪い(おまじない)も同じ『呪』の字を使うけど、 呪いは相手に悪意があって行う行為で 御呪いは効き目はないけど人に幸せを願う行為だよ。
@arlo6121
@arlo6121 3 жыл бұрын
@@3510desutte 今、わかった。 ありがとうございました!(‐^▽^‐)
@tubumame
@tubumame Жыл бұрын
粛清マーチ見てからおまじない見返したらやわらかく表現されてたんだなって…………
@JHT_Cthulhu-duelist
@JHT_Cthulhu-duelist Жыл бұрын
絆創膏にスタンガン シャワーの水責め ボロボロの服に殴打 アラームと怒号…
@沢庵-k7g
@沢庵-k7g Жыл бұрын
ヒエッ
@白ーー-h7j
@白ーー-h7j Жыл бұрын
@carrollewis
@carrollewis Жыл бұрын
今見直すと人の心無さすぎだろこのMV。
@黒猫-h3d4n
@黒猫-h3d4n 3 жыл бұрын
In the Milgram app and Twitter, Amane answered 20 interrogation questions: 1. What are you good at? "Nothing that I can call a talent. Perhaps studying. I do well in my Japanese class." 2. Who do you admire? "My father. My father has been on a journey for a while, but that is something very honorable." 3. What would you do if you will be forgiven no matter what? "Nothing really. I am not lacking anything." 4. Is your family proud of you? "Of course. No daughter is as exemplary as I. 5. What would you want to ride in an amusement park? "That is a place I should not go to." 6. Difference between a grown-up and a child? "There is no borderline there. I think there are grown-up children and childish grown-ups." 7. Do you love yourself? "I have never considered it from the perspective of love and hate, but I do think I am a good child." 8. Which would you prioritize, morals or emotions? "Both are trivial." 9. Family? "It was my father, my mother, and I." 10. Any prisoners you are close with? "If I were to say, I guess it would be Yuno and Mahiru"
@黒猫-h3d4n
@黒猫-h3d4n 3 жыл бұрын
11. Favorite type of meat? "I do not eat meat." 12. What is the meaning of life? "I think it is something you learn for the first time when you look behind yourself when it ends. I do not want to have regrets then, so I live on with all my might." 13. Who do you want to meet right now? "My father. I want him to praise me for working hard." 14. Do you listen to music? "Not really to songs that are highly entertaining." 15. When do you wake up/go to bed? "I go to sleep at 9PM, and wake up at 6AM." 16. Do you believe in past existences and fortune-telling? "Although there are many fake ones." 17. What would you do if the world ends tomorrow? "If everything ends? Then, I might do all sorts of things I have never done before." 18. Do you regret your "murder"? "No. It was a natural obligation." 19. Do you want to be forgiven? "Of course. I anticipate that you will make the right judgment." 20. Any complaints about being imprisoned? "No. Because this is a trial by God."
@hello--hello
@hello--hello 3 жыл бұрын
i think her answer to number 8 is really interesting. she says that both morals and emotions are trivial. while i understand why she thinks emotions are, saying morals are trivial is more curious to me. i kind of thought that she thought what she's done is right. that 'god's' ((really, what the cult tells her are his rules)) rules are her moral system, that he is moral, and therefore she is, and she's done what she must because it is right. but she thinks morals are trivial. so, if it was not a moral obligation that she had to commit murder for, perhaps she believes that the cult and her murder are amoral. they are wrong, but they are *necessary*. am i making sense? idk. it's just that a lot of fundamentalists and religious extremists hold onto what 'god has said' for the direction of their entire life. he is the ultimate good, the ultimate 'right', the ultimate 'just', and they must live by that because that's what's right. but she doesn't care about what's 'right' in a moral sense. it's just a thought, idk. ALSOOO, she's close with yuno? the leading theory for yuno rn is that she got an abortion, which religious people *normally* find to be sinful in nature. it could be that she just doesn't know about yuno's crime, or maybe it's that yuno didn't get an abortion, or even that amane's cult isn't pro-birth. -which might make sense because they had a kid kill someone, but i digress-
@kestarkes1651
@kestarkes1651 3 жыл бұрын
"i do not eat meat" im worried, they made her a vegetarian
@ADayinWhite
@ADayinWhite 3 жыл бұрын
@@kestarkes1651 Weirdly enough, I had the same thought when I read that. Honestly, that sounds like nothing compared to what I've read some cults have required.
@Go_Quokka62
@Go_Quokka62 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, where did you find these??
@takoume-custom
@takoume-custom 3 жыл бұрын
1:08からのアマネちゃんと周りの○×が反転してるの、闇を重く感じる。 家族間の宗教系の洗脳ってほんと根が深い。 怖い。 祈れば怪我治るとかアホかよ、アマネちゃんをもっと褒めろよってなった。
@dia4657
@dia4657 3 жыл бұрын
My theory is that Amane grew up in a cult akin to that of Happy Science (幸福の科学). She grew up in this cult and was forced to be a child actor to recruit more members for this cult in particular. [To provide some background context, Happy Science (also known as The Institute for Research in Human Happiness) is one of many new spiritual movements in Japan. However, this particular cult has connections within the entertainment industry. Some of the members joined through the influence of their parents at a young age, such as the case of actor Fumika Shimizu.] Mow, in terms of cast members, the main five are as follows: ハピネス応援おねえさん - ももせあまね Happiness Support Sister Momose Amane-The protagonist of the show. まさじめロボット - ガチャタ Serious Robot Gachata -Amane’s Father 思いやり兄さん ユウリ Compassionate Older Brother Yuuri-Amane’s Older Brother 不思議なお祈り屋さん ゴザケ Mysterious Monk Gozake-Amane’s Religion Teacher すこやかおてんば姫 リヨネ Healthy Tomboy Riyone-Perhaps a high priestess within the cult? 0:24 - The first one we meet is Gachata, who acts that as a teacher to Amane. Notice in all three images shown during Gachata’s section, the person is depicted to be smiling. 0:40 - The second we meet is Yuuri, the older brother character of the show. He wears a donation box with a smiling cloud placed on it. Coins are put into the box before it becomes over flooded with money. (Could be referring to people donating to the organization.) 1:16 - We meet the monk Gozake, who acts as the religious teacher of the show. In his section, he teaches Amane to sing and is joined by four other child co-stars. 1:32 - Finally, we meet Riyone. She doesn’t have a specific part in the show. However, due to the bandages on her character, she might be a priestess involved with the cult that prays for people who are sick and unhappy. 1:42 - An accident occurs, injuring one of the co-stars. Riyone joins in, reminding the others that praying is the only way for the injured person to truly get better. Amane starts to realize that this isn’t the case; that she can do something to help them. This is why she takes it upon herself to help them. 2:08 - Judging by this scene in particular, she knows she isn’t supposed to be helping them out like this, which is why she asks them to keep it a secret. However, it is in vain, as she is discovered anyway. This leads to 2:15, where it’s implied she was abused as punishment for her actions. “Only if I could be a good girl.” is most likely referring to her breaking the rules of the group to help someone, and views herself as a bad child. All of this builds into the line of 2:32 - “Dear wise one, am I worthy?” She realizes her actions are wrong, and she prays to be able to repent for her mistakes. She broke the rules of the group and has to pray in order to be forgiven by god. This is when she decides that the only way to repent is by removing the problem itself. (An interesting note at 2:40, this is the only time in the MV where her eyes are no longer hollow, for a lack of better words. This could be referring to her achieving happiness or being completely brainwashed into believing so.) At this point, she fully endorses the cult and embraces the nature of the happiness they’ve been trying to spread, thus leading to her transformation (into a magical girl) and reconciliation with the rest of the cast. We are now at the end of the video, at 3:21. Amane seems to be watching what appears to be the show in question, now with deadpan eyes. She is traumatized by the events that occurred. Now, in terms of the murder in this video, I believe it's heavily implied to be one of the extras, in this case, the cat that got injured. This is why the cat is not seen present at 3:10 with the rest of the extra characters, they are now deceased. The motive behind this was heavily related to the abuse she suffered after helping the cat after the stage light accident. This leads to the line of her yelling “I’m sorry! I’m sorry for breaking the rules!” in her voice teaser video. The murder was an act of repentance for breaking the rules.
@dia4657
@dia4657 3 жыл бұрын
take this all with a grain of salt tho this is just my personal take on what happened
@starpeep5769
@starpeep5769 8 ай бұрын
Fun fact: yuuri can mean profitable
@ぐみねこ-g5h
@ぐみねこ-g5h 3 жыл бұрын
ちょちょちょちょ…………そのゆるかわいいイラストでめちゃめちゃ闇を感じません????天才
@Hetastuckftw
@Hetastuckftw Жыл бұрын
after purge march this is very sad.
@raccoonchild
@raccoonchild Жыл бұрын
It was always sad (and disturbing)
@Suidle0528
@Suidle0528 3 жыл бұрын
0:31 早起き、勉強、片付け など、最初は宗教の色々を交えず普通のいい子として教えている 指切り→約束→宗教の教え 教えを破ると痛い目にあうし、何回もごめんなさいのおまじないを唱えてきたが、その痛い目も愛情だと思って、怖くないしむしろ素敵 0:50 「神様 こんなんだっていいですか 私も甘えちゃっていいですか」 の後に、約束を破らないことを誓っているが、私には「ちがいます」と聞こえるしMVにも ❌ の文字があり、甘えはダメで、甘えると痛い目にあうことをさしているのでは そのあとの 誓います は、約束を破らないようないい子になると言う意味で、歌詞のままだと思う 0:55違います 1:03誓います こうして比べてみるとわりとちょっと違いがあるかもしれない 耳が勝手にそう聞こえてるだけかもしれないけど 1:18 やはり幸せだと思っている… それと、この場面はアマネちゃんとほかの子供たち+宗教の人で、宗教の教えを唱えているも思った 「またって顔をされないように」 という歌詞で、また約束を破ったのかと痛い目似合わないように、いい子でいる覚悟を決めた様子っぽい 1:43 猫が怪我をしたところでキャラクターたちが出てくるシーン ガチャタとリヨネは驚いたような顔をしているが心配はしていなさそうだしあまり気にしていなさそう リヨネに至っては想定内って思ってそう ユウリとゴザケは嫌そうで困った顔をしてて、ユウリはガチャタとリヨネよりも感情がありそうで、この後にも書いてあるんだけどあまり宗教のことを信じてなかったのではということも関係してそう(詳しくは下に) ゴザケは嫌そうとか困ってそうっぽい顔をしてはいるけどどことなく面倒くさそうだなって顔みたいだと思った。「対応に困るなぁ」とか「あーあ(適当)」とか考えてそう。 1:50 リヨネは猫(話上は子供かも)が宗教の教えに反して天罰が下ったと思い、神様に謝ったり願えば怪我が治ると考えている ただ上に書いた通り猫の怪我が想定内であればリヨネが細工して、アマネちゃんがどれほど宗教の事を信じているかを試したり、ただのイタズラで故意であったかもしれない 1:55 そんな猫を見てアマネちゃんは可哀想だと思い、約束、教えを破った猫を助けるが、バレてしまい「痛い目」よりもっと「酷い目」にあう 2:13 キャラにバレてしまい、怒っている顔をしている だが、ユウリだけやるせない顔をしているのが気になった ユウリだけ服がボロボロなのはアマネちゃん達が父子家庭で宗教にお金を使っているため貧乏だが、ユウリだけ特に貧しい思いにさせられているのではと思った(募金活動もしている) だから、宗教の教えを破ったと言うより なんで自分だけこんな貧乏な思いをしてるんだ という気持ちで殴っていたのかもしれない 加えて、私の見落としかもしれないけどキャラクターたちには雲が2つに重なったようなロゴ、マークが描かれてるが、ユウリには描かれていないからユウリは神様を信じているフリをしていただけかもしれないと思った 前半部分でアマネちゃんに手を差し伸べているのもおそらくユウリなので 2:15 酷い目にあっているシーン ガチャタはアマネちゃんの父で、主にガミガミと叱っている ユウリはアマネちゃんの兄か宗教仲間のお兄さん的な存在で、主に暴行を加えている ゴザケは宗教の中心的な役割やそれに近い人物で、主に水(熱湯?)を浴びせている リヨネは宗教の事を完全に信じきった小さな子で純粋であるがために、主に電気ショック(犬用のスタンガンなど?)を浴びせている 2:31 神様にいい子で居ることを誓うことで、宗教のキャラクターたちは痛い目に合わせることをやめて、「ちゃんと誓えば神様が助けてくれる」と思い込ませ、アメとムチで洗脳させている そして神様を完全に信じるように ボイスドラマ「使徒と死と」では、この場面で洗脳されたアマネちゃんのヤバさが聞けます かなりの興奮状態で、最終的には丁寧な口ぶりだったはずが エスに対して お前 と呼びます その後キレたエスがアマネちゃんを抑圧したところ急に弱腰になっていて家庭での虐待の様子が伺えます 他に気になったとこ ・アーチが積み石(妖怪の餓鬼)みたいに見える ・天気→お天道様とか雷様みたいな、神様のイメージにされているとか ・アマネちゃん絶対どっかで自己暗示してそうだなと、登場人物が一応かわいいキャラクターたちだから怖いものを可愛く、怖くないものに見立ててたり、教えを破った時の痛い目にあうことを幸せなことって思っていたり、自己暗示か洗脳でありそうだなって思った ・茶色い猫役がアマネちゃんの手当ての後に消えていて、その猫の元である 決まりを破った子供 は、宗教が殺したかアマネちゃんに殺させた のだと思いました ・アマネちゃんが殺したのが茶色い猫役の人でないとこのMVでは誰を殺したのかが不明 ・アンダーカバーのラスサビでは人の上に乗って棒で泣き叫ぶように殴っている ・ユウリとリヨネの立場がどうかで大分変わってくる ユウリは宗教を信じているかそこまででもないか リヨネは大人か子供かで、大人だったらアマネちゃんを試すような行動をしていたり、子供だったら純粋無垢であるうえの狂気だらけだなって思った 他の方がちょいちょい注目してますが、2:57〜 の裏でアマネちゃんが言ってることは歌詞を繰り返しているだけで、CDやサブスクで見れる off voice はその裏で言っている言葉があるのか無いのかの差分です。 そのためラスサビから裏で何かを言っていることは他のキャラにもあります。分かりやすいのはハルカあたりかな アマネちゃんは 赦す 判決を1回下されると、やっぱり神様が!となってしまいそうだからあえて私は赦さないを選択してみた あと1:34の唐突なジャズ風アレンジ好き
@esse17sinpuru
@esse17sinpuru Жыл бұрын
@憂う-x5z
@憂う-x5z 3 жыл бұрын
今回も案の定考察は出来ないのでフルとMVの解禁とアマネちゃんの可愛さに歓喜することにします…
@fascher_
@fascher_ 3 жыл бұрын
this seems like the type of mv that you look back on after her crime has been revealed, and go 'wow this is actually so messed up'
@IAmInsideYourWalls-wm9ek
@IAmInsideYourWalls-wm9ek 3 жыл бұрын
Im actually really interested how people will react to her crime, since she's a child it has the potential to be really divisive if the crime is severe enough.
@nilsfrayer
@nilsfrayer Жыл бұрын
oh yep. it looks like she killed gozake
@batrex_
@batrex_ Жыл бұрын
Coming from future to confirm this😊
@BeeziBeez
@BeeziBeez Жыл бұрын
Confirmed
@user-nv8vn9lb4q
@user-nv8vn9lb4q 3 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃんは自分の思考を重要視してる感じなのに、このMVめっちゃ誰かに問いかける歌詞なのこわい
@shimemeji
@shimemeji Жыл бұрын
i will never see this the same after watching purge march
@しゃけなべいべー-g2d
@しゃけなべいべー-g2d 3 жыл бұрын
ゆるキャラのおでこに丸い点付いてるの大仏みたいだな〜って調べたら白毫って言って世界をあまねく照らす光をイメージしてるらしいです。 あまねく…アマネちゃん…
@幼体-u5h
@幼体-u5h 3 жыл бұрын
デコピンの所、このMV内ではポップな表現だけど実際には何があったんだ...考えたくもない...
@boymilk8907
@boymilk8907 3 жыл бұрын
現状日本にある宗教団体でそこまでの拷問器具はないでしょうし年齢別での(子供だと軽めの)罰もありますが自分としての解釈ですが改めて「教えを頭に叩き込む」という意味なのかもしれませんね… 追記:デコピンしたのも物事を教えている機械くん(ガチャタ)なのでそうかなと…
@幼体-u5h
@幼体-u5h 3 жыл бұрын
@@boymilk8907 >頭に叩き込む なるほど!!!どんな行動をしたかという事にとらわれて意味することを考えてませんでした!いずれにせよこんな小さな子に…
@boymilk8907
@boymilk8907 3 жыл бұрын
@@幼体-u5h この年齢で自分から入ることは考えにくいですし親が強制して教え込むほどの宗教なら少し過激な団体ということも考えられますね…
@reinstancedump3931
@reinstancedump3931 3 жыл бұрын
HELLO AFTER RELEASE THEORY I think it's extremely obvious that the robots were trying to tell amane what they're doing is love (out of religion), the robots represent fake animals, which means fake love. Whenever she approaches a "real animal" she gets punished, because she wasn't supposed to find affection and comfort outside of her religion. And at the end, she wanted to be a good girl and killed the person she truly bonded with so she won't get punished anymore.
@reinstancedump3931
@reinstancedump3931 3 жыл бұрын
+ God were supposed to give comfort and religious people are supposed to rely to God. So when she helped the real animal, it's as if showing that you don't need to rely to God for comfort, which is probably why she also gets punished from helping? It's just a theory, but it's possible
@bonesnatcher
@bonesnatcher 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll drink to that !
@newrogue5737
@newrogue5737 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus that's dark... I love it. Also I think the stage light hitting the animal might represent them realising it's all lies as we see more animals gather as if more people are joint the cult.
@NeckTie_Lucifer
@NeckTie_Lucifer 3 жыл бұрын
thats a good theory :0
@reinstancedump3931
@reinstancedump3931 3 жыл бұрын
@Newrogue haha yeah, being in a super religious family myself I can definitely understand what amane is feeling,, to outsiders it doesn't seem scary because you're just doing "religious practices" but it's actually some heavy brainwashing, just sugar-coated with religion :/ oppression and brainwashing towards children is extremely common but never noticed because it's sugar-coated with religion. It's sad really
@うか-o3v
@うか-o3v 3 жыл бұрын
雲と笑顔が2つ重なったようなマーク、 途中までは至る所で背景のワンポイントとして出てきてたけど アマネちゃんの目が変わって変身するところでブローチになってる… やっぱりそこで洗脳されたのかな? 今までは周りだけだったけど完全に染まっちゃったよみたいな
@Luxito5476
@Luxito5476 2 жыл бұрын
This girl honors MILGRAM's name. A clear example of what Milgram wanted to prove with his experiments: people can do horrible things just because they are "following orders"
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 Жыл бұрын
when the IRL Milgram had people answers that they pressed the button and did not even know why fully is so fuked
@KomoraKriogeniczna
@KomoraKriogeniczna Жыл бұрын
On top of that, I think it's slightly implied she electrocuted her victim - in the last chorus she uses a magic wand with a lightning bolt symbol. So yeah, my theory's is that her case is a clear reference to actual experiments.
@holismey7614
@holismey7614 Жыл бұрын
​@@KomoraKriogenicznasounds cool, but in the undercover mv, she is shown beating her victim with what appears to be a baseball bat so idk-
@batrex_
@batrex_ Жыл бұрын
​@@holismey7614That's Mikoto
@stefperb9531
@stefperb9531 Жыл бұрын
@@holismey7614 Fuuta is also shown killing someone but his victim ended herself so I wouldn't bank on Undercover being 100% real
@みつせ-l3e
@みつせ-l3e 3 жыл бұрын
投票すること自体を躊躇していましたがボイスドラマ聴いて投票する決意がつきました。それぐらい強烈で衝撃を受けた内容でした。是非ボイスドラマ聴いてほしい、アマネちゃんへの解像度が更に上がる。
@坂本治郎
@坂本治郎 2 жыл бұрын
CDですか!?どこで聴けますか!?
@ざっそう-f3f
@ざっそう-f3f 2 жыл бұрын
@@坂本治郎 囚人の楽曲が出るたびにシングルのCDが発売されていると思います
@うか-o3v
@うか-o3v 3 жыл бұрын
リヨネの登場直後に照明が落ちてるのとか 怪我を祈って治すっていう提案をしたのがリヨネだとか 他の3匹とは一緒になんかしてるのにリヨネだけ何もないのとか リヨネが元凶な気がするなあアマネかわいい
@夜ノです
@夜ノです 3 жыл бұрын
それに医療に反対的なくせに耳が絆創膏になってるって明らか矛盾してますよね
@桜-s2i
@桜-s2i 3 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃんがちゃんと神様を信じているのかを、試したんじゃないかなと思います。 リヨネが照明が落ちるよう細工している間他の人達が気を引いていたから、他の人達が何かやっている時リヨネだけいなかったのかなと……
@夜ノです
@夜ノです 3 жыл бұрын
@えの 確かにそれはありえますね。 他の人は元々あった宗教のルールを教えているようでしたが 証明の件に関して、リヨネはまるでその時ルールを作ったかのように見えた。
@夜ノです
@夜ノです 3 жыл бұрын
@えの まって… 名前の最後が一緒…… 親子説とかあるのか…?
@夜ノです
@夜ノです 3 жыл бұрын
@E 教祖とか上の立場の娘なら洗脳もしやすいだろうよ。 まあ実の娘を洗脳させるほどの毒親かどうかは分からないけど。 リヨネが本当に神を信じてるのかもしれないし
@Artsyemmjae
@Artsyemmjae 3 жыл бұрын
The way they punished her for no reason, They literally hate seeing a girlboss Winning at such a young age
@mars2387
@mars2387 3 жыл бұрын
this is my favorite comment
@cannacae
@cannacae 3 жыл бұрын
YOOOO emjae? this is so crazy seeing you here? Wild
@Artsyemmjae
@Artsyemmjae 3 жыл бұрын
@@cannacae Omg!! Canna you found like my favorite KZbin comment I've ever made! Its crazy to think we're reuniting in the KZbin comments
@cannacae
@cannacae 3 жыл бұрын
@@Artsyemmjae i hope youve been doing well! honestly? youre so right
@Artsyemmjae
@Artsyemmjae 3 жыл бұрын
@@cannacae Yeah I'm doing really great tbh! I hope you're doing well! I can't believe it's been like what almost 2 years?? That's crazy
@ぽんこ-o1c
@ぽんこ-o1c 3 жыл бұрын
あまねちゃんのこと1番すきだし天使だけど、これまでの曲の中でMV見終わった後の気持ち悪さだんとつ(褒め言葉)
@RM_at_Home
@RM_at_Home 4 ай бұрын
Something I noticed at 2:56 as the song is coming to a close, is that you can hear Amane in the background speaking the lyrics to the song. However, it sounds like she's doing it out of fear and desperation as if she's only saying it to avoid any punishments the cult would give her if she didn't.
@ましぴ-g8u
@ましぴ-g8u 3 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃんにムウちゃんのような ”裏” みたいな…まだ何か隠れてる気がして……この曲だけじゃ実は何にもわかってないとかざらにありそう… こんな平和なことなんて絶対ないでしょ…
@wai_65_ng_
@wai_65_ng_ 3 жыл бұрын
うーん赦したいけど… 03:01 ここのいい子になるしかない、が凄い切羽詰まっていてなんか苦しそうなんだな…投票どうしよう
@アニメとゲーム好きの人
@アニメとゲーム好きの人 3 жыл бұрын
ごめんなさい。昨日ミルグラムさんを知った新参者なのですが、投票とはなんでしょうか?又、どこで行われてますかね? 宜しければ教えて下さい。
@ボカボカ
@ボカボカ 3 жыл бұрын
コメ主ではありませんが失礼いたします、投票とはそれぞれのキャラについて描かれた曲を聴いて考察をして、その考察を元にそのキャラを赦すか赦さないか投票で決めます。 投票はApple Storeでミルグラムと検索すれば出てきますのでそこからできます、今はカズイとアマネの投票が可能です
@アニメとゲーム好きの人
@アニメとゲーム好きの人 3 жыл бұрын
@@ボカボカ ご丁寧にありがとうございます!
@うぉんばっと-b4i
@うぉんばっと-b4i 3 жыл бұрын
2:16ぐらいの所でアマネちゃんがされてる事って ガチャタ→目覚まし時計の騒音=不眠状態にさせる ユウリ→暴力 ゴザケ→水を浴びせる リヨネ→電撃 かな?女性が折檻する時は腕力を使わないスタンガン等を使っていて 最後の魔法少女のようになるシーンで持ってるステッキがカミナリマークなのはアマネちゃん自身も折檻と称して殺害に加担してしまったとか? 最後のシーンに怪我した猫ちゃん居なくなってるし… アマネちゃんが悪いようには思えないから…許しちゃいそうになる…
@RainsIce1102
@RainsIce1102 Жыл бұрын
変身する時にミニキャラ?の瞳がグル目になってたからやっぱり洗脳されてるのかな…
@motiwanko
@motiwanko Жыл бұрын
ガチャタは音関係→人格否定とかの暴言 とかもありそう
@サク-q9q
@サク-q9q 9 ай бұрын
水をかけるくらいで洗脳はできなそうですしお風呂とかに無理やり顔をつけさせて溺れさせてたのかも?
@beta_ot9879
@beta_ot9879 3 жыл бұрын
A minor detail I found is that at 2:00, you could hear that the MV switches instrument and uses a church organ, bells, and a choir of people, which further supports that it has something to do with some religious cult. Edit: I would also like to add that a friend of mine told me that one of his friends seemed to have gone into a uncommon religion or cult, and one thing that he told me is that his friend and other childern used to collect money when they were still kids, pretty much acting like beggars and solicitors on the street asking for money (is how his friend described it), and that they would give all that money to their religion because that is their one source of income which can be seen here in 0:43.
@ranpo_edogawa
@ranpo_edogawa 3 жыл бұрын
Also someone pointed out in another comment that this whole "educational show" might be a reference to a cult in Japan that controls/makes all the media that the kids of the cult consume. I think the cult was called "Happy Science" or smthn like that. Edit: Yeah its called Happy Science and they also control the education/schools the kids are in as well.
@neryswa
@neryswa 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! Plus, in 1:18 the mv shows Amane singing, while the animals (Who in my theory are the people that came to the church) listen to her singing. It's pretty common on the churches around here to make kids sing there.
@v_agm06
@v_agm06 3 жыл бұрын
初見サムネほいほいされた人間なんですけど 最初曲やMVの感じが可愛いなーとか思いながら眺めてたら最後にビックリしました…。 …気になるからちょっと他のも見てきます。
@夏爆
@夏爆 3 жыл бұрын
こうやって参加者が増えてくんめっちゃ嬉しい
@aaaaa8852
@aaaaa8852 2 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃん、もし二審MVではめちゃくちゃダークな部分出してきたらやばいな、好きになっちまう
@derorianmeru
@derorianmeru Жыл бұрын
出して来たな笑
@RENA-lq7jx
@RENA-lq7jx Жыл бұрын
目がやばくなったね
@o-02-63終焉の代理人
@o-02-63終焉の代理人 Жыл бұрын
自分の思想を否定されて狂っちまったのかな?
@ananami2153
@ananami2153 Жыл бұрын
起きた物事は神が与えた試練であり、それを自力で乗り越えることが正しい。って教えか。 それをアマネが手助け(治療)したために罰が下される。 世間一般や人の善性としての行動として正しいが、宗教的にはアウト。
@komadome_
@komadome_ Жыл бұрын
@@ananami2153なるほど
@よっしー-x5l3e
@よっしー-x5l3e 3 жыл бұрын
全然違うかもだけど この「おまじない」っていう題名が 一瞬「おまえじゃない」って見えて 今までのボイスとかからそんなふうに言われてたっぽそうだったから鳥肌立った もしかして...そんな事まで考えてある?
@水星みょん
@水星みょん 3 жыл бұрын
それを考えるとかなり… どうなるか分からなくなる… それまで考えてそうだから怖いなぁ
@かるぴす-h8y
@かるぴす-h8y 3 жыл бұрын
鳥肌飛び越えてチキンになった
@いただきまんぐーす-p2z
@いただきまんぐーす-p2z 3 жыл бұрын
チキン肌になってしまいました
@user-白-16
@user-白-16 3 жыл бұрын
まさか…
@no7name4
@no7name4 3 жыл бұрын
御呪い、お呪言(すべておまじない)あとおま『じ』ないとか?
@電子時計-e7d
@電子時計-e7d 3 жыл бұрын
とっっても可愛いけど人を殺してるんだよな… [視聴後] 色んな表情見れてやはりとっっても可愛かったけどPV不穏すぎワロタ
@yatsu_1642
@yatsu_1642 3 жыл бұрын
気づかないで精神的に追いやってたかもしれないから…
@藍色えのぐ
@藍色えのぐ 3 жыл бұрын
最後のアマネちゃん、『そういう教育のためのテレビを見させられていた』ってことなのか…………… 宗教じみた家族が嫌になって56したのかと思ってたけど むしろ教えに従ってネコチャン(に例えられた誰か)をみ56しにしてしまったんだとしたら話が変わってくるよなぁ…
@tonn-u5k
@tonn-u5k 2 жыл бұрын
新曲への待ち遠しさとアマネちゃんの変わり様をみたくて何度も聞きにきてしまう
@Wolfusrodah
@Wolfusrodah 3 жыл бұрын
People forget you can be both a child actor/star AND a cultist. Actually has happened in japan before with Shimizu Fumika and happy Science. She dropped her acting career in 2017 when she was 22 to become fully invested in said cult but was already part of it as a child
@mar__mmd
@mar__mmd 3 жыл бұрын
でもこれ許すにしたら「思想肯定」ってなるよね…? 肯定しちゃだめくない??
@haise873
@haise873 3 жыл бұрын
色んな考察があるけど、全部アマネちゃんの親の責任っぽくない? アマネちゃんは小さいし、責任を負うことは出来ないと思うな。 赦してカウンセリングを受けてもらうべきだと切実に思う()
@ゆきまる-k9g
@ゆきまる-k9g 3 жыл бұрын
0:04 もし宗教関連の内容なら、ここのドンドンって音は青いロボットがアマネの家に入る時のノック音かな…
@蟹甲殻類大腿部歩脚
@蟹甲殻類大腿部歩脚 5 ай бұрын
🤖<宗教に入れば救われるのに…
@Akari_Yuu
@Akari_Yuu 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I'd like to point out is how the entire video (minus the spotlight falling) is in Amane's fantasy world. We don't see her in the real world till the end. This could mean that she was so far deep into the religion/cult that she didn't view it as 'real' anymore. Since it very much resembles a children's tv show, it's likely that she views her life this way to cope with the abuse her family/other cult members give her. She's viewing it in a way to make it seem okay. The scene at the end is clearly much different than the rest of the video. She looks tired and defeated, probably due to the abuse. But since she doesn't know anything else, she views her life like the tv show and tries her best to be the good girl she's meant to be.
@hippomantube
@hippomantube Жыл бұрын
What is this Amane character from?
@username84476
@username84476 Жыл бұрын
​@@hippomantubedid you find out yet?
@hippomantube
@hippomantube Жыл бұрын
@@username84476 Not really. I think its a character from some multimedia project that may be an original creation of this song's creator?
@username84476
@username84476 Жыл бұрын
@@hippomantube Yea something like that. Strongly recommended
@kevin427
@kevin427 Жыл бұрын
@@hippomantube from the MILGRAM project
@iriko4401
@iriko4401 12 күн бұрын
2:15 〜 リヨネからの罰がスタンガン ゴザケからの罰がお風呂場での水の虐待 ユウリからの罰が殴る、蹴るなどの虐待 ガチャタからの罰が言葉による精神的な虐待 …なのか?
@一般の名無し
@一般の名無し 7 ай бұрын
ラスサビの 3:01 の所でうっすら アマネちゃんの「もういい子になるしか無い…」って辛そうな声が聞こえた
@__sr.89
@__sr.89 6 ай бұрын
見返してみたら私もうっすら聞こえた気がします!!
@ぐみねこ-g5h
@ぐみねこ-g5h 3 жыл бұрын
なんでこんな小さい子がヒトゴロシになってしまったんだよぉ…………お姉さん悲しいよお。。。。
@いるか-x5y
@いるか-x5y 3 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃん、助けたのが掟に触れたのか……超偉い子では……????? ひぇ……最後……最後ォ…… 目が死んでる……自分はどこってしてる……ウッ……(死)(語彙力)
@huwarari9926
@huwarari9926 3 жыл бұрын
今も神様を信じちゃって馬鹿だな…って感じの虚ろな目をしてる…
@altair_orion727
@altair_orion727 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh i expect amane's to be released longer considering kazui's trial release date and its just released 2 weeks ago, however no complaint . Respect to them who worked hard for this
@darkphoenix9650
@darkphoenix9650 3 жыл бұрын
They must have worked on both at the same time
@doodletrash01
@doodletrash01 3 жыл бұрын
MILGRAM MVs are released in pairs, they post the first 2 MVs within weeks of each other, then have a little posting hiatus until they do the same thing again and post the other two ^_^
@darkphoenix9650
@darkphoenix9650 3 жыл бұрын
@@doodletrash01 Oh, like time for people to digest the characters' story?
@doodletrash01
@doodletrash01 3 жыл бұрын
@@darkphoenix9650 maybe that's the case, maybe they do it so they can spread out the voting periods, maybe they do it so they have more time to make the MVs, i don't really know and have a bunch of thoughts on that lol whatever the reason is for that, if i can guess it's for several reasons that means its probably most effective and i hope they keep it that way for the next wave of trials hehe
@jamuskite
@jamuskite 3 жыл бұрын
@@doodletrash01 thank you for explaining! I can't wait for the next two :D
@わらびもち-z4u
@わらびもち-z4u 9 ай бұрын
2:57くらいのところ辺で天音ちゃんの声で歌詞で ''もういいなんて言わないです 笑いあって許してくれますか 誓いますもういい子になるしかないですよ'' のところ耳をすまして聞くと 天音ちゃんの自身に訴えかけるような声が聞こえる 歌詞と同じで聞こえにくいかもだけど 是非試して聞いてみて欲しい 天音ちゃんの自身に訴えかける声は 最後だけが違ってて ''もういい子になるしかない...'' っていう感じになってます ミルグラム細かいね〜
@kura_chan09
@kura_chan09 18 күн бұрын
アマネちゃん大好きだよほんとまじで愛してます切実にあなたの幸せを願ってます!!!!!
@ぷっちんぷりん-j4m
@ぷっちんぷりん-j4m 3 жыл бұрын
マヒルみたいに明るいMVは裏にどの加害者よりも闇を感じて怖い
@ブランシュ-l4b
@ブランシュ-l4b 3 жыл бұрын
最近ミルグラムにハマったばかりですが初めてリアルタイムでMV観れるのがめちゃめちゃ楽しみです♪
@rakshaa1664
@rakshaa1664 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing I'm certain of is that the orange cat died. There are 4 animals that show up several times throughout the song, but only the orange cat is missing at the 'end credits' scene. Whether the robots made Amane kill the cat or they themselves did it, I'm not sure.
@sipoverish
@sipoverish 3 жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it, I never really understood her crime. Maybe the cat represented a person (as their are domestic but can be wild animals), and the robots (cult leaders) made her kill the cat
@edim8207
@edim8207 3 жыл бұрын
I think that they made Amane do it. They brainwashed her, told her that she broke the promise to their god or smth (maybe even threatened her that the orange cat won't go to heaven because of her or smth similar; or maybe that the cat was the "devil" that made her "stray off the good path" ); they did it until she broke mentally - I think in Undercover you can see her beating someone to death with a bat/plank(?) and she seems to be doing this in the heat of passion. Maybe that's one of the reasons that she has a magical girl transformation at the end - she wants to believe that she just killed an "evil" (or even that "healed" the cat from "evil", that could be smth the cult leaders told her)? She probably had very limited knowledge of the world outside the cult, probably only seeing it through TV/internet/cartoons,(as someone speculated before) so she coped with a whole thing in the only way she could...
@rerakantarera
@rerakantarera 3 жыл бұрын
@@edim8207 The cat seems to be a non believer of their cult and she punished him so the others would not do the same to her I guess
@Venoxium
@Venoxium 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just surprised she was voted Guilty.
@savstinks6847
@savstinks6847 2 жыл бұрын
@@sipoverish i think her crime is just being involved in a cult that kills people, in which case she is a victim
@angrygoat9099
@angrygoat9099 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the overall idea that everyone should vote to "Forgive or Not forgive" is tiring Not only Jackelope already said in his mv that you can also just vote for any reasons you like, it's literally been confirmed the verdicts have an actual influence on the characters and their arc. I can garantee you no one ever thought Amane was guilty for being brainwashed by her cult, in fact I remember the votes being at literally 80% innocent back then. The only reason people still voted guilty anyways is because voting innocent might actually enhence her brainwashing. Hell there's literally some character development during her birthday diologue when Shido asks her if she wants cake. Amane is usually cold and acts super serious and hates stuff that she deems "childish" like cake but here it's hinted that it's a façade and that she does actually want cake.
@pechaykun5959
@pechaykun5959 2 жыл бұрын
She definitely looks like the victim here for me. As if she just had taken her villain arc.
@angrygoat9099
@angrygoat9099 2 жыл бұрын
@@pechaykun5959 Oh yeah! I agree, I'm not upset towards people who voted her innocent at all. I completely get it. It's just that it's a little sad how some people have been quite toxic about those who voted differently without understanding their pov, which is what annoyed me.
@kotyashh777
@kotyashh777 2 жыл бұрын
i dint think she/he is innocent.But she is brainwashed by cult or she doing this because she want
@ainimimin
@ainimimin 2 жыл бұрын
@@kotyashh777 i honestly think she's being brainwashed or has been raised with her mindset. when people you look up to keep repeating the same thing to you, you will tend to believe it and have a hard time breaking away. but amane in this mv has shown multiple instances of uncertainty towards their teachings and words, honestly there may have been a chance to break her out of her mindset that was drilled onto her, but from the results of the guilty verdict from T1.. yeah, don't think thats happening anytime soon.
@monolinny1817
@monolinny1817 2 жыл бұрын
If this theory is true about her character development, then the guilty verdict must’ve changed her, not only about the brainwashing, but that she cannot break the rules AT ALL (no more wanting sweets) Which could mean no hope in saving her now ;x; (Wish that it’s not the case)
@miraivy9000
@miraivy9000 3 жыл бұрын
よしこれも100万再生いけば、エスcoverが聴けるぞ!!!エスのちゅっが聴けるぞ!!!!(尊) 聴きまくるか!!!!皆!再生しまくるんだ!!!!
@sekaowa-
@sekaowa- 2 жыл бұрын
あと一万!!!!!!!!1日20は聞きます!!!!!
@Takeda-v9p
@Takeda-v9p 2 жыл бұрын
よっしゃ頑張る
@crewnowar3740
@crewnowar3740 2 жыл бұрын
百万キター(゚∀゚ 三 ゚∀゚)
@miraivy9000
@miraivy9000 2 жыл бұрын
皆の者!!エスのちゅっが聴けるようになるな!!!やったね!!!(大歓喜)
@adgjmptw3-l7f
@adgjmptw3-l7f 2 жыл бұрын
聴いてきたぞ・・・すごかった・・・
@elroylim8213
@elroylim8213 3 жыл бұрын
Untranslated Lines (Shown onscreen, not part of the song) 0:24 - A Serious Robot: Gachata 0:41 - Yuuri: A Compassionate Big Bro 0:55 - "What's the correct answer?" 1:16 - Gozake: A Weird Monk 1:33 - Riyone: Energetic Tomboy 3:10 (Credits): Happily Supportive Big Sis: Momose Amane Energetic Tomboy: Riyone A Weird Monk: Gozake A Compassionate Big Bro: Yuuri A Serious Robot: Gachata Production/ Script: Milgram The End
@ralos5727
@ralos5727 3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, can you tell me what is description of Gachata in 0:24 please?
@elroylim8213
@elroylim8213 3 жыл бұрын
@@ralos5727 Sorry I missed it, just added
@elroylim8213
@elroylim8213 3 жыл бұрын
The song may be referencing the Happy Science (幸福の科学) Cult in Japan, who controls their own schools and entertainment divisions.
@ika6372
@ika6372 3 жыл бұрын
thanks a bunch for the translations^^
@おつき-d7c
@おつき-d7c 3 жыл бұрын
@@elroylim8213 As far as I know Happy Science doesn't really emphasize in faith healing. I'd say it's referencing one of the more extreme cult, Aum Shinrikyo.
@9yano579
@9yano579 Жыл бұрын
2:15でアマネがされてるのって、スタンガン→水責め→暴力→洗脳って事なのかな。 結果壊れて現状って感じなのか…? 痛いのは嫌だから、それを避けるためには教理上の良い子になるしかなくて。 特に2:15での経験から悪い子=痛い目に合うと確実に思い込むようになり、自分に非がある事を受け入れることが出来なくなった。 だから全て教理に従って行った正当な行為だと、自分はいい子なんだと主張せざるを得ないって感じなのかな。
@Ryou1217
@Ryou1217 3 жыл бұрын
0:00に出てくる積石には「道に迷わぬように正しい道へ導く」って意味があるみたいです。 もしかしたらアマネちゃんはいい子でいることが正しさって親に教育(洗脳?)されているからいい子でいようとしているのかな…?
@ぜぜん-u3s
@ぜぜん-u3s 5 ай бұрын
誰か言ったかわからないけど、0:19 の「ま」って鍵っぽくない?
@まちゅ-q3q
@まちゅ-q3q Жыл бұрын
第二審みてから見るとめっちゃ柔らかく描いてたのが分かる、、。 それにしたって、医療行為をすることが悪な宗教なんて死んでも入りたくないよね😢 だって風邪ひいても病気しても病院にいけないんだよ、、それが天命って言われておしまいなんでしょ。辛すぎる、、、。
@tare_shouga17
@tare_shouga17 3 жыл бұрын
やっと推しの曲…サムネから可愛いが溢れてるけどどんな曲なのか怖すぎて無理
@凛茶りんさ
@凛茶りんさ 3 жыл бұрын
公開前(長文なので見たい方だけどうぞ!) ・前のボイスで「決まりを破ってごめんなさい」って言ってるから、色々厳しい家庭 →決まりを破り、暴力を受け、抵抗した時に殺してしまった? (ボイスは殺す前のもの?) ・「全然怖くないですよ?私のことは神様が護ってくれていますから。」 →宗教関係で神様の存在を強く信じている ・「人を殺したと言うならそうなのかもしれません。しかし、それを間違っているとは思っていません。間違っていると言うならば、あなたの方が間違っていると思います」 →(自分なりの)訳:「神様が殺せと言ったから殺した。だから、一応自分で殺したってことになるのかも。でも、神様の言うことは間違っているとは思っていません。神様の言っていることが間違っていると言うなら、神様を信じないあなたが間違っている。」 ・「法律よりも大切なものがある」 →これも神様? 公開後 ガチャタ(緑のロボット) →父親 ユウリ(黄色のロボット) →兄 ゴザケ(水色のロボット) →宗教関連のことをアマネの家族に教えてる人? リヨネ(ピンクのロボット) →姉妹?(思いつかなかったので適当) あの幸せの指切りは破るととても痛い 嫌ってほどしてくれました ごめんなさいのおまじないを →幸せになるために父と神様にした約束、破ると暴力を嫌なほど振るわれる。その度にごめんなさいと言い続ける。 0:58 ガチャタからのデコピン →父親からの暴力 またって顔をされないように 覚悟を決めました →約束を破ってまた?って思われないように約束を守る覚悟を決めた 2:40 アマネちゃんが完全に洗脳されてるというか、宗教に染まってるというか 0:51 猫が2匹いるのに、 1:39 に居る猫が 3:11 居なくなっている 一つ目の説 1:49 家族とかは祈れば治ると言っているけど、それを信じずに猫の怪我を治そうとしたから、神様を信じていないと家族が思って、罰を与えている。 ↓ 猫の怪我をアマネが治療して治ったら、神様に祈れば治るという教えを信じなくなってしまうと思い、猫を家族が殺して、アマネが治療をしたせいで猫が死んだという嘘をついて追い詰めた。 ↓ 3:22 殺してしまったショックと神様を信じ無かったことの後悔をする。 (その後のボイスだから神様を信じている発言が多いのかな?と思いました) 二つ目の説 家族が祈れば治ると言っていたのに、猫が元気になったらアマネからの神様へ信用が薄れて、家族とかが困るから家族が猫を殺して、その恨みでアマネが家族を殺した説も考えております。(こっちの方があってるかも、、、?) 三つ目の説 家族や神様に心とか頭とか洗脳され過ぎて自分自身を殺した。 これは関係ないけど、ムウの歌詞と似てるとこあるなぁーって思った笑 ムウ→ごめんの魔法 アマネ→ごめんなさいのおまじない (勝手に思っただけだし、ここくらいしかないんで気にしないでください!笑)
@そら-g7n9n
@そら-g7n9n 3 жыл бұрын
めちゃくちゃ参考になったのですが、その場合アマネは誰も殺していないのでは…?
@凛茶りんさ
@凛茶りんさ 3 жыл бұрын
@@そら-g7n9n それは思いましたw 人を殺したとは言ってるのに(笑)
@やま-d2b
@やま-d2b 3 жыл бұрын
完全に洗脳されて、周りの人が大怪我しても「祈れば治る」という宗教の教えに則って結果見殺しにしたとか·····
@凛茶りんさ
@凛茶りんさ 3 жыл бұрын
@@やま-d2b あー!なるほど!! それはあるかもです!!
@月兎-d7p
@月兎-d7p 3 жыл бұрын
@@やま-d2b こじつけですが、皆からの信頼を取り戻すために、自分で猫を殺した...というのも考えられるのでは無いでしょうか? 考察とか得意ではないので、自信はありません(笑)
@うか-o3v
@うか-o3v 3 жыл бұрын
これ赦さないに投票するやついんのかって思ったけど、アマネちゃんの主観で描かれてるからアマネちゃんがめっちゃ悪いことしてる説もなくはない、、のか、、
@fizzytastic6559
@fizzytastic6559 2 жыл бұрын
something I think is really interesting is how childish both Amane and Haruka are. Amane makes sense obviously, since she's an actual child. comparatively, Amane's childish imagery is way more colorful. She's a magical girl living in a world of cartoon characters. Haruka has picture books and scribbles overlaying the real world. I don't have anything to say about what that implies, I just think it's neat!! anyways. I really don't see how an abused child could sincerely be "guilty" of her crime.... She's just a baby :(
@動画視聴用-x3k
@動画視聴用-x3k 3 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃんを許したらアマネちゃんを傷つけてきた思想や行動の肯定になって「間違ってたのは私だ」になるので許しちゃダメだと思うなあ
@SW-2114
@SW-2114 3 жыл бұрын
やぁ。 [公開前考察] アマネちゃん可愛い天使降臨 [公開後考察] (前提として、VoiceDramaはまだ聞いて無い。) 闇が深いな…なんか観てて辛かったってのが最初の感想。 世界観は子供番組でポップなんだけどね〜。それが余計に悲しくさせた。 宗教関係という説を押していたが宗教と言うより親が毒親だったって感じかな。 出てくるゆるきゃらみたいなのは家庭教師的なやつかな? 違う。完全に宗教だ。 0:42から募金活動してるし、 1:16のゆるきゃらは「不思議なお祈り屋さん」。 1:19はその宗教の祈りを歌ってる(キリスト教でいう賛美歌) そして他に信者が増えて一緒に歌ってる。 1:48祈れば全て解決できるという思考? 1:53からアマネは祈るんじゃなくて直接手当をしてあげた。そしたらゆるきゃらがその行動を否定した。 (祈りしか認めないのか?この宗教。) そんで最後は「アマネがモニター(?)越しに観てた」という画。これは親(か誰か)を殺した後に振り返ってるって風に捉える事が出来る。 ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー アマネはこの宗教の事どう思ってるんだろ。 アマネが誰かを殺したという描写は無かった。 アマネはアマネ自身を殺した? 宗教を信じる人達を裏切ったという意味で殺した? 今の所これしか浮かばないが直接手は下してないと思う。 ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー 「わたしだって 希望はあるんだよ」 →アマネが望むものは全否定?だから1:53? 1:24から自分を犠牲にする事にした?望む事を諦めたって感じか? 「でも全然怖くないですよ 愛だから」って全てを「愛」でまとめようとしてる様にしか思えない。 1:54やっぱり「祈り」以外の救済をしたら赦されないんだろうな… 2:38ここから完全に自分を殺した?それで上の立場(?)になった? そもそも崇める対象は誰だったんだろ。 最後にはアマネが信者の願いを叶えてるというか何かを与えるって映像になってるんだよな。 ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー 『おまじない』→「お呪い」 ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー さっきマヒルの殺し方が分かった。(どうでも良いですよねすみません) ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー 「いい子」になって喜ぶのは親だけなんだよな。 ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー 第一審って必ずしも殺してる時の描写を入れてるって訳じゃ無いからね〜。 『アンダーカバー』観りゃ殺し方は描かれてるけど。 ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー JK 放送休止の時に出る画面のテレビ 黄色と黒色と青紫色のクレヨン(?)の線 ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー VoiceDramaタイトル 『使徒と死と』 序盤の発言は“教え”通り。 でもまあ社会では常識の事だけど。 自己紹介。 趣味特技は描写されてる事。 食べ物に制限がある。 アマネの殺人に対する意見に同意出来るな。 「自我」→人の心の構造。「自我」「超自我」「エス」 子供扱いw確かに受けてたね。 間違いも何も分からないんだよ。間違いかどうかを判断する材料が無い。 善悪の基準。それぞれの…。 いやこの子やばいぞ。自分の意見持ってる事は尊敬に値するけど他人の意見を受け入れない。下に見てる。 子供扱いがどうのこうのいってるけどアマネは子供だよ。 育つ環境ってやっぱり大切なんだな〜。どう足掻いても多少は染まってしまう。良い染まり方なら良いんだけどね。 にしても番号が進むにつれてエスの怒りが大きく強くなってるな。こりゃ残り2名も荒れるぞ。どういう理由で怒るかが想像出来るw実際どうなるかは6,7月になりゃわかるけどね。 ミルグラムのVoiceDramaっていろんな意味でストレスがかかる。 ハルカとフータのVoiceDramaぐらいだよ。ストレスが少ないか無いのは。
@夜ノです
@夜ノです 3 жыл бұрын
いや、アンダーカバーのアマネの殺し方を見るに完全に直接手は下してると思う。 殺してるエスも大人ぐらいの大きさだったし…多分お父さんかお母さんを殺したんだと思う。
@SW-2114
@SW-2114 3 жыл бұрын
@@夜ノです 確かに。バットか何か棒状の物で殺ってますね。 (殺ってる描写が無いからそう書いたんですけどね…)
@うか-o3v
@うか-o3v 3 жыл бұрын
まってマヒルの殺し方が聞きたいぞおれは
@夜ノです
@夜ノです 3 жыл бұрын
@@うか-o3v マヒルの殺し方はマヒルのMVのコメント欄の方で考察してる方が沢山いるのでそちらを見た方が分かりやすいです。 ちなみにマヒルは恋人らしき人の首を絞めて殺しています。
@夜ノです
@夜ノです 3 жыл бұрын
@@SW-2114 シャワーらしきものがアマネの1枚絵みたいな感じであるので 宗教虐待だとは思いますね…
@iluVioletLink
@iluVioletLink 3 жыл бұрын
[PRE-RELEASE THEORY, THEORY MAY CHANGE AFTER MV RELEASE.] - EDITED MY THOUGHTS ON THE END OF THE POST! DISCLAIMER: SUPER LONG POST... The most popular theory currently circulating around the community is that Amane was raised in a cult, or born into a very religiously strict family. But what if the cult-like themes surrounding her weren’t just related to anything religious? My main speculation about Amane is that she is a *child idol star, or at least someone who’s very skilled/talented at something and is known for it in a wide audience. It can explain as to why she’s… happy, in the thumbnail. She’s wearing some type of uniform you would see in performances. Granted, this uniform can be purely symbolic, but it would also be interesting to see Amane getting music-themed imagery for her MV since Kazui’s entire MV was themed around theatre. We also never see her smile; the only moment where we do is during the UNDERCOVER MV, but the moment she took off her hat, she completely became serious - as if she would only be all smiles in front of camera, and then dropping it when she’s away from the limelight. Behind her straitjacket, Amane also dons a school-girl outfit under it, along with a sailor hat, and a backpack… It’s as if the creators want us to view Amane as a caricature of a little girl. The idol industry is undeniably very rough especially for someone like Amane’s age. It’s not uncommon to hear parents who push their dreams and ambitions onto their children, so Amane’s autonomy was stripped away from her at a young age and she was definitely forced to overwork herself for their sake. In the interactions she’s had with others, Amane has shown to be someone who’s very focused on her studies, and many child celebrities struggle to balance their academics and their talent cultivation. Not only that, Amane dislikes being seen as a child. Many of the prisoners note her maturity, as seen in her interaction with Shidou where he voices his concern about how a child of her age is a “murderer”. Amane, in response, is almost offended that Shidou insinuates that she has no form of free will, to a point where Shidou says he feels saddened that Amane might hate him in an interrogation question. Maybe Amane is used to being babied and infantilized for her age; again, being in an environment with no control over her autonomy probably makes her feel irritated or disgusted when people only see her as a child. Her natural speech is also… robotic. Like she’s very on guard with herself, or she wants to maintain an air of professionalism when dealing with others. Another reason why I mention Amane being in the entertainment industry is because being an “idol” can mean many things. An idol can be a person or thing that is greatly admired, loved, or revered. But it can also mean an image or representation of a god used as an object of worship. Amane understands that there are things higher than rules and laws - she’s not afraid of anything in the prison at all. What if all this adorable persona she has in front of others is a guise of something much sinister? Has her obedience towards her parents, to her superiors, lead her to believe that she’s a messenger/idol for something of higher power? It’s also not unheard of to hear conspiracy theories of people from the entertainment industry to be working for… other things. Such as the theories of celebrities being in the illuminati, for example. It’s also noteworthy that Amane speaks to “God” as if she’s asking for help or repentance in the MV preview lyrics too (Am I worthy? Is it ok to spoil myself? I’m going to be a good girl now). Aside from that, the idol industry, once again, is very grueling towards someone as young as Amane; they have to follow a strict set of rules and regulations as per contract. It’s common to see idols being punished for voicing out personal opinions to maintain an image or for literally doing anything they want since they have no free reign over their lives (one famous example is an AKB48 member shaved her hair when she was caught dating with someone), so the promise-breaking aspect for Amane can be her breaking a rule, and ultimately, lead some type of murder from happening. And she shows no remorse for doing so - did she finally snap from all the pressure and kill one of her parents, or her employers? Other notes: - I’m pretty sure her parents, or at least her dad, is her producer/employer. Amane briefly mentions about her father in a conversation she had with Mahiru, that he was "a truly splendid person. honest and fair, and does all his work for the sake of others". She speaks about him in a very charismatic light. The three symbols in Amane’s GraffArt merch shows: - thunderstorm = The bolt of lightning is a traditional symbol of sudden illumination and the destruction of ignorance; it also represents a punishment of humans by the gods from the skies, most commonly attributed to Zeus, king of the gods. - a henohenomoheji face = conveys an idea of anonymity, and may be worn as a mask. Also a symbol to chase away rain. - an angel = regarded as invisible messengers, inhabitants of Heaven, beings of light and symbols of lightness as well as fire and martial power. Footnote: - *You can switch child idol star with anything and the narrative of my theory would remain the same. She could also probably be a magician in the MV, to match with the title and theme of the song. I’m 99% sure of her being a performer, but what kind of performer… we'll see during the premiere. - cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710864901463343144/828134628219944960/Screenshot_20210404-010950_Drive.jpg Link to Amane-Mahiru convo - cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710864901463343144/828146218236248114/Screenshot_20210404-015508_Drive.jpg Link to Amane-Shidou convo - cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710864901463343144/820442556462399498/image7.jpg Link to Amane’s GraffArt Promotional Art twitter.com/MILGRAM_info/status/1299647984112676865 Link to Amane’s Official Fan Art Anyways, all of this is purely speculation and I can 100% be wrong when the video is released, so don’t take any of my words as fact. This is my first time theorizing something pre-release, hopefully I get something right at least lol. =EDIT: POST-RELEASE THOUGHTS= I... do NOT know nor do I have any thoughts about her actual murder. But, I was somewhat correct in a few aspects, such as the overall narrative of the MV story; which was her living in a strict environment and being exploited by her family for her talent/age etc, and about her wearing the uniform. To reiterate once more, the definition of idol can mean two things; someone who's greatly loved by many, and the other, being an image or representation of a god used as an object of worship. I definitely think Amane holds a poster child, leader-type role throughout the MV; being the main character of the video and all, it wouldn't surprise me that she's there to represent the cult/religion's deity or god. I think Amane wasn't supposed to interact with the orange cat because she seemed to react in surprise or in shock when the 4 elders caught her helping it... and during the sequence when Amane was being punished, the church organ backing made it sound like it wanted Amane to repent, to come back to the "light" - hence in 2:47, after completing her transformation, Amane now takes over the cloud symbol. Her eyes and background are distorted to reflect this transformation. Accompanied with her wings, she is now one with their God. She would use her lightning rod to strike the orange cat in a literal sense (to relate this back to her silhouette in the UNDERCOVER MV where you can see her beating someone up with a rod), maybe because the lightning can represent punishment or divine intervention, killing the "cat" in the process. I would also like to note that the lyrics for this song make it sound like this "promise" Amane was supposed to keep was something very scary and heavy, but she chalks this up by saying that she's a good girl! She'll never break promises, for the sake of greater good. P.S. The orange cat that Amane helped did not donate money to the cult/religion, and light fell downwards them... Perhaps this was a sign of karma? That cat alongside Amane really deserved better.
@celiaveiga224
@celiaveiga224 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve just read all of this after the premiere and ir makes so much sense!!! Amazing what you could deduce with the hints before the MV
@noox13
@noox13 3 жыл бұрын
@@celiaveiga224 For real.
@LuliTomato
@LuliTomato 3 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@rami3465
@rami3465 3 жыл бұрын
3:22 it looks like the Illuminati triangle reflecting in her eyes 👀
@LuliTomato
@LuliTomato 3 жыл бұрын
@@rami3465 it's the cult's logo
@otakugirl4437
@otakugirl4437 Жыл бұрын
Now after the second song I can't see it normal anymore; it is creepy as hell save my girl
@まあゅ
@まあゅ 2 жыл бұрын
2:17宗教の洗礼で、赤ちゃんを全身を水に浸すものがあったらしいです
@一般の名無し
@一般の名無し 7 ай бұрын
何それ怖っ
@こずえ-v9k
@こずえ-v9k Жыл бұрын
3:10 手当てしたネコいなくなってるね…😢
@hiruko03
@hiruko03 3 жыл бұрын
どうなんだろうね、単純にMVや歌詞だけ見れば 宗教団体(家族)の中に居た。 ↓ その宗教には怪我や病気をしても祈れば治るので、絶対に治療をしたり病院へ行ったりするなという謎ルールがあった。 ↓ 友人(又はペット)が大怪我をし、それを治療してしまった事でルールを破ってしまった。 ↓ 宗教団体はルールを破ったアマネを拷問し、結果殺してしまった。 ↓ 「ルールを破った事で自分を殺してしまった」 と考えられるけど、後半拷問後に羽が生えたシーンを"死んだ"のでは無く"狂信者爆誕"のシーンだと捉えると 拷問後、アマネは心を入れ替えてしまい完全な信者になる。 ↓ 宗教の教え通り誰がどんなに酷い怪我や病気をしても治療したり病院へ連れて行ったりせず、ただ祈るのみ。 ↓ 結果「多くの者を見殺しにしてしまった」 とも考えられる。 最後のシーンの虚ろな眼差しは前者なら死体、後者なら廃人となったアマネの物じゃないかな?と思っています。完全に個人の考察ですが、良ければ参考にどうぞ。 【追記】 同シリーズを見直した所アンダーカバーの最後の囚人達が相手を殺害した方法が再現されるシーンで、アマネは棒のような物を手に撲殺するようなポーズをとっている事に気付きました。 これにより自説前者のアマネ自身が死んだ可能性は低いと考え、後者の説をベースに考察を進める事にします。 殺害方法が撲殺という事は違反者を制裁する側に回ったアマネが拷問中誰かを殺してしまったのでしょうか? それともMV中治療した猫(友人?親族?)はその後見殺しにされたのでは無く、上からの命令若しくは狂信者となったアマネの判断で殴り殺してしまったという事なんでしょうか? ………この可能性は低いですが、宗教団体の異常な思想に耐え切れなくなり我に返ったアマネが叛逆を起こし、教祖を殴り殺してしまった…なんて展開だったら、ちょっと胸アツですね。
@いぶきあさ
@いぶきあさ 3 жыл бұрын
親が宗教関連で、色々あって親を殺っちゃったっていうの よく聞くんだけどどうなんですか考察ニキ達 追記 思ってたより全然明るいけど 全然明るくなかった アマネちゃん、子役さんとか NHKの番組に出てるような子だったのかな これ私はアマネちゃん本人より 周囲の大人が悪いと思う 小学生やそこらの女の子が こんなになる? どんな影響を受けたんだろう
@shus_right_earring
@shus_right_earring Жыл бұрын
3:00 you can hear her begging (?) in the background after the time mark i think. not begging maybe, it sounds like an echo of the song, but in a more desprate way??
@DinaNicolee88
@DinaNicolee88 Жыл бұрын
Omg now you mentioned it! I do noticed it thank you
@thunderclancat123
@thunderclancat123 3 жыл бұрын
My group of friends theorized over the MV and came up with this: Amane is the mascot of a promotional cult video. The robots (adults) are the creators of the cult. The animals are people she pulled into the cult. The victim is the cat who she helped after the accident. Proof: - Amane is shown watching the promotional video at the end. Her dead eyes suggest she had been brainwashed with this video, and later became the mascot. I place this scene before the MV because of the screen reflecting in her eyes. She's looking at the scene at 0:05 but without Amane in it. It was a prototype promotional video that got her into the cult. 3:22 - The adults tell them prayer will help heal the hurt cat. After they pray and nothing happens, Amane begins to feel doubt. She then helps the cat in secret, telling the cat to not tell the others. But the adults were watching, and begin to punish her. 1:40 - If you take the punishment scene literally, the ways of abuse are very telling. The pink one does shock therapy, the blue one drowns her repeatedly or possibly throws ice cold water on her (?), the yellow/brown one beats her, and the green one brainwashes her. 2:13 This is further proven when afterwards, she stands up with a smile on her face, praying, and her eyes look hypnotized. 2:35 - After her abuse, she seemingly becomes forgiven by the adults/robots, and she becomes even more devoted to the cult. Her outfit changes, and most notably, she gains a wand with a lightning bolt in it. I believe this signifies that she now carries out punishment as well. She is fully a tool of the cult now, with no doubt in her mind anymore. 2:40 - The cat is missing from the credit scenes. This proves she is the victim who Amane killed. 3:15 Other notes: - The credits of the MV/promotional video 3:05 : (credit for translation: twitter.com/wobbuun/status/1383017048876404740 ) Happiness Support Sister Momose Amane Vigorous Tomboy (pink one) Riyone Mysterious Prayer Seller (blue one) Gozake Considerate Brother (yellow one) Yuuri Overserious Robot (green one) Gachata - We believe the pink one doesn't have a big role in the cult, but is very ambitious. The yellow one seems to have doubts about the cult. He is the only one frowning at this scene: 2:14 . He is also the only robot with a real name. The other two are the main backbones. Blue one being the financial leader, while the green one does the brainwashing and teachings. - We also believe the pink one is the one who caused the light to fall on the cat. After each robot is introduced, we are shown their role. The green one is a teacher 0:23 , the yellow one collects donations 0:40 , the blue one is a choir teacher 1:17 , and immediately after the pink one is introduced 1:32 , the light falls on the cat (child), and she says prayer will help heal their wounds. We also believe the blue one was impressed by this, as he is shown a surprised look like, "oh, nice save!" 1:48
@pinkybeeppy
@pinkybeeppy 3 жыл бұрын
those are really really good theories!!!!! but i think that the water on amane means the rain pouring down, since on undercover she is seen on the street with rain? and the green one is meant to represent screaming and cussing, i think the 4 punishments are connected and happening at the same time. idk about shock therapy doe
@おつき-d7c
@おつき-d7c 3 жыл бұрын
The waterfall one could be referring to Zazen, a meditation method under a waterfall, and the blue one is modelled like monks.. So perhaps maybe she was forced to do zazen or some sorts?
@GE-0530RN
@GE-0530RN 3 жыл бұрын
"oh nice save!" I LQUGHED FOR SOME REASIN
@Lucifer-uo1db
@Lucifer-uo1db 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the yellow one, I think it's also important to note Yuri doesn't have the "cloud" symbol anywhere on it's outfit.
@GE-0530RN
@GE-0530RN 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lucifer-uo1db that makes sense. maybe yuri joined because he was poor and didnt have much choice in the matter?
@えだまめ-t9y
@えだまめ-t9y Жыл бұрын
今見ると、このキャラクター達って、宗〇のマスコットキャラクターだったんだなって分かるわ…見た目に反してすげーえげつないことするな。
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