MILGRAM / Amane - Magic [The First Trial Music Video]

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MILGRAM -ミルグラム-

Күн бұрын

“I'm going to be a good girl now! That's it!”
Vocal: Amene (CV: Minami Tanaka)
“Magic”DL & Subscription
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Lyrics: DECO*27
Music: DECO*27
Arrangement: Rockwell
Movie by OTOIRO
Director: DMYM
Mascot Designer: lowpolydog
Character Designer & Key Animator: Sunao Chikaoka(SUNAMARU),Tomoyo Sawada(SUNAMARU)
Animator / Finishing: staron
Chibi-Gram Director: awashima
Chibi-Gram Assistant: 1024
Background Artist: Miyuki Onodera (MAKARIA)
Background Manager: Rin Tanabe(MAKARIA)
Prop designer: Yuka Fujii
Composite / CG: NNNuventus
Animal cast: Emma,Neo,Nemuri
Project Manager: Iori Majima
Art Director: DMYM
Original Character Designer: akka
Story / Author: Takuya Yamanaka
"Magic" Instrumental
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Lyrics:
Magic
This happy pinky promise hurts to break
They said it more than enough
It’s the sorry spells
But it’s not scary at all, because it’s love
I can actually think of it as a good thing, see isn’t it a great thing?
Dear wise one, Am I worthy?
Is it ok to spoil myself?
I promise! A pinky promise is a pinky promise!
Even I can say "I'm sorry"
Even I have hope
I swear! I'm going to be a good girl now! That's it!
Not meaning to brag but I’m pretty happy
I’ve made up my mind so they don’t make that face at me again
But it’s not scary at all, because it’s love
I can really think it’s great. See isn’t it a great thing?
Dear wise one, Is this ok?
Is it ok to be weak sometimes?
I promise! A good girl that keeps a promise is like, mwah!
I won’t say “I’ve had enough”
Will you laugh with me and forgive me?
I promise! I can only become a better girl!
Only if, only if, only if I could be a good girl
I hope, I hope everyone can be happy and smile
Forever, forever together would be a dream
Dear wise one, Am I worthy?
Is it ok to spoil myself?
I promise! A pinky promise is a pinky promise!
Even I can say "I'm sorry"
Even I have hope
I swear! I'm going to be a good girl now! That's it!
Dear wise one, Is this ok?
Is it ok to be weak sometimes?
I promise! A good girl that keeps a promise is like, mwah!
I won’t say “I’ve had enough”
Will you laugh with me and forgive me?
I take an oath! I can only become a better girl!
©MILGRAM

Пікірлер: 2 200
@9yano579
@9yano579 11 ай бұрын
最初はただの聞き間違えだったけど、歌詞を見て「誓います」だって知ってるのに、今でも「違います」に聞こえちゃう…。 おかげで、  甘えちゃっていいですか⇒違います  希望はあるんだよ⇒違います  弱くたっていいですか⇒違います  赦してくれますか⇒違います に聞こえて複雑な気持ちになる…。いや、甘えられず希望はなく弱いことが赦されずってのはなんか、アマネちゃんの境遇と合ってる気もするけど、だから余計複雑な気持ちになる…。
@ミンティア-p6k
@ミンティア-p6k 7 ай бұрын
実際にPVの中で「誓います」ってとこでバツついてるから狙ってるんじゃないかなあ…
@riverthecrybaby9448
@riverthecrybaby9448 5 ай бұрын
そうだな。僕は僕の耳が下手に思った。でも、あなたは天才です!
@akatuki_2000
@akatuki_2000 3 жыл бұрын
「でも全然怖くないですよ、愛だから」って虐待を愛だと思い込ませられて、周りから心配されても大丈夫って言ってる感じがする
@moka9467
@moka9467 3 жыл бұрын
おまじない=洗脳?
@ひま-z8t
@ひま-z8t 3 жыл бұрын
「私だって希望はあるんだよ」もなんか周りから希望がないって思われてるってことなんですかね?3ヶ月前のコメントに返信失礼しました🙇‍♂️
@huwarari9926
@huwarari9926 2 жыл бұрын
「私も甘えちゃっていいですか」 アマネちゃん普段いつも真面目で勉強好きで大人びたところもあるけど 本心では子供達みたいに甘えてたい 我儘を言いたいとか アマネちゃんは内心そう思ってそう
@crewnowar3740
@crewnowar3740 2 жыл бұрын
@@moka9467 おまじないって漢字で書くと「お呪い」なんですよね… 関係ありますかね?
@可愛い熱帯魚-f4y
@可愛い熱帯魚-f4y 2 жыл бұрын
ミュンヒハウゼン症候群??
@ニコフラ
@ニコフラ Жыл бұрын
この子に必要なのは「カウンセリング」です
@yourhighnessshanzay
@yourhighnessshanzay 26 күн бұрын
I Agree With This Statement
@登場登場
@登場登場 10 ай бұрын
1:08 アマネちゃんが嫌だと思ってることは〇で、良いと思っていることは‪✕‬にされてる
@ぺむ-p1v
@ぺむ-p1v 3 жыл бұрын
どなたかが言ってた猫の怪我を直す手段に祈りを提案したリヨネの耳が絆創膏なの皮肉だよね、ってコメントに鳥肌
@asagi872
@asagi872 Жыл бұрын
患者には医療行為を教義として禁じておきながら、団体の幹部は科学の力を享受してるっていう矛盾を表してるのかなあと思いました。どうなんでしょう。
@blue_mushroom5
@blue_mushroom5 6 ай бұрын
@@asagi872その話実際にある宗教であったものですね。
@EdgeLie
@EdgeLie 5 ай бұрын
​@@blue_mushroom5loosely based yes, but not an actual event (a similar one happening wouldn't surprise me tho)
@yuki_yukine
@yuki_yukine 3 жыл бұрын
正直アマネちゃんに関しては赦すにしても赦さないにしても「神様じゃない人の審判」だから本人の意思は変わらないと思う
@MilgramTranslation
@MilgramTranslation 6 ай бұрын
私は彼女が彼女の状況のせいであるとは思いません(まあ、誰もが独自の理論と結論を持っています^^!)
@yourhighnessshanzay
@yourhighnessshanzay 5 ай бұрын
you predicted something
@starpeep5769
@starpeep5769 3 ай бұрын
​@@yourhighnessshanzayyup
@ブランシュ-l4b
@ブランシュ-l4b 3 жыл бұрын
ちょっと考えたんだけど、ハルカくんのMV内の歌詞に出る「愛される弱者になりたかった」とアマネちゃんの歌詞「いい子になるしかない」って、まったくの真逆の発想だよね? ハルカくんが「愛される弱者になりたい」と思うのは多分、自分が弱くても駄目でも愛されたい・認められたいという願望から来てるはず 対してアマネちゃんの「いい子になるしかない」は、駄目な所を見せると認めてもらえないとかペナルティが飛んだりするから、いい子になるしかないと強迫観念を抱いていると思われる ハルカくん、ただでさえ小さい子ども苦手だけど、この違いも踏まえて考えると、この2人は絶望的に相性悪いなぁと思ってくる
@リリィ-r5t
@リリィ-r5t 3 жыл бұрын
「自慢ってほどでもないですが私は幸せです」 って言ってるあたりハルカが聞いたら えらいことなりそう、、
@yaboicleid9583
@yaboicleid9583 3 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOSH BLUE CHEESE DECIDED TO JOIN HAHAAHAHAHAHAAH food fantasy x Milgram when
@huwarari9926
@huwarari9926 3 жыл бұрын
ハルカくんとアマネちゃん 関係ギクシャクしてそう…不仲やな
@negai-t4m
@negai-t4m 14 күн бұрын
アマネ(おまじない)『「もういい」なんて言わないです』 ハルカ(弱肉共食)『もういいよ』 😨😨😨
@whyrubuyingclothesatasoupstore
@whyrubuyingclothesatasoupstore 2 жыл бұрын
I like that her crime isn't even mentioned in the lyrics and can only be somewhat deciphered through the video (with the orange cat being the only character missing in the end of the mv), because to Amane that's not the important part, what's important is that she broke the rules and was punished for it
@imnotfunny9735
@imnotfunny9735 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m TRHING yo figure out what she did I’m scared because idk if she killed the cat
@whyrubuyingclothesatasoupstore
@whyrubuyingclothesatasoupstore 2 жыл бұрын
@@imnotfunny9735 yeah sorry she probably did. good (?) news is that the animals probably represent actual people so she didn't kill a literal cat
@imnotfunny9735
@imnotfunny9735 2 жыл бұрын
@@whyrubuyingclothesatasoupstore thank god
@ConfettiiCereal
@ConfettiiCereal 2 жыл бұрын
@@imnotfunny9735 I think the cat might b a human but they used a cat 4 symbolism or sumthing
@imnotfunny9735
@imnotfunny9735 2 жыл бұрын
@@ConfettiiCereal yeah they did
@user-tm8fh9yu9w
@user-tm8fh9yu9w 3 жыл бұрын
歌詞見ないで聞くと、サビの「誓います」が「違います」聞こえる。 私も甘えちゃっていいですか→違います(否定)→やぶっちゃうだなんて悪い子は めっ!だよ 私だって希望はあるんだよ→違います(否定)→もういい子になるしかない!ですよ もしこうだとしたら、アマネちゃんは普段甘えることも許されないし、希望はないんじゃないかなって思った
@らめたそ
@らめたそ 2 ай бұрын
クイズで不正解の時に誓いますって言ってるからめっちゃ濃厚だよね
@しおちゃん-e5v
@しおちゃん-e5v 3 жыл бұрын
ラスサビ前のガチャタ、何してるのかなぁって考えてたんだけど目覚ましっぽい頭のアレが動いてるのを見るにアマネちゃんを寝かさなかったんじゃ?と思い至った 人って睡眠時間奪われると判断力も落ちるし実際に洗脳(拷問?)とかで使われてたものっぽいし
@久保アイリ
@久保アイリ 3 жыл бұрын
あまり実写じゃないのも、現実は写せない(写したくない)ほど辛いものだからなんだろうな。箱庭療法とか、抽象物でやっと表現出来るような…
@まる-u2b
@まる-u2b 2 жыл бұрын
それすごい思いました…… 滅茶苦茶怖くて アマネちゃんには幸せになって欲しいと思うばかりです……
@shigo9373
@shigo9373 2 жыл бұрын
i like how her 'transformation' after being punished was not much, just her ribbon changing which really showed how influenced she was from the start
@diastreblwsh
@diastreblwsh 2 жыл бұрын
sorry if i got the wrong person but SHIGO??
@shigo9373
@shigo9373 2 жыл бұрын
@@diastreblwsh IRINI ?!?$!?'!?' IN THE KZbin COMMENT SECTION?!?'!:?!: hi
@egoistph
@egoistph Жыл бұрын
wtf same ish pfp
@shigo9373
@shigo9373 Жыл бұрын
@@egoistph hi fellow lain enjoyer
@Byssa6
@Byssa6 Жыл бұрын
She also grew wings
@そらいろ-i7m
@そらいろ-i7m 3 жыл бұрын
2:45の羽、なんでピンクなんだって思ったらもとから着てた服を裏返しにしてるのか かわいいなぁ〜可愛いけど怖いくて悲しいよ
@user-kn3yv5fv9o
@user-kn3yv5fv9o 3 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃんは悪くない。ただ彼女を無罪とすることは彼女の行いは「正しいこと」であったと認めることにもなる。 言い換えれば彼女を洗脳した人達の行為の肯定になるので、洗脳が解けないまま一生生きていくことになる。 アマネちゃんを救う為には有罪とするべきなんじゃないのかなあ……
@gento8704
@gento8704 3 жыл бұрын
洗脳を解いてあげたいから赦さないを選ぶという考え方もわかるけど、洗脳を解いて元の生活に戻したらまたアマネちゃんは苦しむ羽目になると思う 一般的な『普通』がアマネちゃんにとっての幸せに繋がるとは限らないのが難しいところ
@きつめ-u9x
@きつめ-u9x 3 жыл бұрын
怪我した子の後ろにお祈りポーズあるから、神様たちはお祈りで直そうとしたのにアマネちゃんが手当てしたから、「お祈り信じてないのか!」って神様が怒ったのかな
@ひなり-k7h
@ひなり-k7h 3 жыл бұрын
怒ったのは 周りのイカれた大人やろな
@まる-u2b
@まる-u2b 2 жыл бұрын
怖すぎる……
@helloex-6767
@helloex-6767 Жыл бұрын
神様を信じてはいるけど流石に神様の祈りで手当をしてもらうっていうのは無理だと分かって手当はした物の周りの人達に怒られ罰としてアマネちゃんに拷問を受けさせ 神様という存在を完全没頭にし結果 アマネちゃんも祈りで怪我を治す行為というものを知ってしまった…と考えたらマジで怖い
@凪-j9w
@凪-j9w Жыл бұрын
実際一審の結果で人間関係が変わった時シドウが神に祈ることじゃなくて治療をしたからなのかシドウのこと嫌ってたしなー
@Mitokon_Doria
@Mitokon_Doria Жыл бұрын
宗教の押し付けって感じか?
@Hiyori_Cat
@Hiyori_Cat 3 жыл бұрын
この曲を聞く限り、アマネちゃんを赦す=宗教の肯定的な感じがしてどっちを取るかなんだよな…………。許さない方がアマネちゃんのためになる気も……いやうぬん……
@粒状のカカオ豆
@粒状のカカオ豆 Жыл бұрын
粛清マーチ見てからおまじない見返したらやわらかく表現されてたんだなって…………
@JHT_Cthulhu-duelist
@JHT_Cthulhu-duelist Жыл бұрын
絆創膏にスタンガン シャワーの水責め ボロボロの服に殴打 アラームと怒号…
@沢庵-k7g
@沢庵-k7g 11 ай бұрын
ヒエッ
@白ーー-h7j
@白ーー-h7j 11 ай бұрын
@user-ur9xg7nw9c
@user-ur9xg7nw9c 3 жыл бұрын
0:55 のとこ「誓います」じゃなくてずっと「違います」だと思ってたんだけど、それでも歌詞が成り立つの怖いな…
@Imkindajusthere
@Imkindajusthere 2 жыл бұрын
The fact the jackalope laughed at everyone voting her guilty to "realise her sins" gives me shivers down my spine
@imacupcake
@imacupcake 2 жыл бұрын
right 😭
@Ramen46238
@Ramen46238 2 жыл бұрын
It was like disgusting I don’t know but i felt a little bit nauseous watching that part. ALSO WHY DID IT TAKE ME SO LONG TO SPELL NAUSEOUS 💀 😭 ✋
@dualswords3303
@dualswords3303 2 жыл бұрын
In voice drama she stated that she don't give a shit what we think. No idea why we think this would work.
@lucindasunkai9219
@lucindasunkai9219 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I'm new here by discovering a song on Spotify, but where can I find the voice drama etc. They is a lot of things I'm not aware of. Thank you for any explanation
@imnotfunny9735
@imnotfunny9735 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ramen46238 BECAUSE ITS HARD TO SLELL
@幼体-u5h
@幼体-u5h 3 жыл бұрын
デコピンの所、このMV内ではポップな表現だけど実際には何があったんだ...考えたくもない...
@boymilk8907
@boymilk8907 3 жыл бұрын
現状日本にある宗教団体でそこまでの拷問器具はないでしょうし年齢別での(子供だと軽めの)罰もありますが自分としての解釈ですが改めて「教えを頭に叩き込む」という意味なのかもしれませんね… 追記:デコピンしたのも物事を教えている機械くん(ガチャタ)なのでそうかなと…
@幼体-u5h
@幼体-u5h 3 жыл бұрын
@@boymilk8907 >頭に叩き込む なるほど!!!どんな行動をしたかという事にとらわれて意味することを考えてませんでした!いずれにせよこんな小さな子に…
@boymilk8907
@boymilk8907 3 жыл бұрын
@@幼体-u5h この年齢で自分から入ることは考えにくいですし親が強制して教え込むほどの宗教なら少し過激な団体ということも考えられますね…
@あいあう-i7e
@あいあう-i7e 3 жыл бұрын
1回つき倒したあと手を差し伸べるのあめムチ方式で洗脳されちゃうよね怖すぎ…
@Mewkityy
@Mewkityy 3 жыл бұрын
"There's only one thing worse than a murderer" *ripping sounds* "A child"
@chloe6839
@chloe6839 3 жыл бұрын
THIS COMMENT
@elleiguess1124
@elleiguess1124 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@laylarinla5370
@laylarinla5370 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@platsew912
@platsew912 3 жыл бұрын
SJSHGSF😂😂😂😂😂😂
@NeckTie_Lucifer
@NeckTie_Lucifer 3 жыл бұрын
PFFF- LMAOO
@皐月-l3v
@皐月-l3v 3 жыл бұрын
個人的にはこういった歌なのにお父さん、お母さん、パパ、ママみたいな歌詞が出てこないことが凄く怖い
@carrollewis
@carrollewis Жыл бұрын
今見直すと人の心無さすぎだろこのMV。
@零れい-m4z
@零れい-m4z 3 жыл бұрын
考察(長文注意) アマネちゃんは小さい時から宗教を信じていて(信じさせられていて)、教理に反することをすると「愛」という名目で罰を受けていて、どんな罰を受けてもその宗教を信じることを「幸せ」と信じていて(信じさせられて)いた。ある時傷を負った人を信者たちが神様のお祈りで直そうとしたけど一向に治らず、見かねたアマネちゃんが手当しようとしたら「神様の力を信じていない」として罰を受けて、その時にその人を見捨ててしまいその人が死んだため、「殺した」ということになった(最後のエンディングのようなシーンに怪我をしていた猫がいなかったため)。 最後の画面をながめるアマネちゃんは、過去のことを振り返り、宗教のせいで何が正しいのか、自分はなんなのかわからなくなったアマネちゃん。また、MVが子供向け番組風で、最後にその番組を見るアマネちゃんがでてくることから、アマネちゃんは子供向け番組を見るくらいの年齢から宗教を信じさせられていて、最後の目が死んでいるアマネちゃんは洗脳されたと考えることもできる。 【追記】今回のMVとは関係ないが、アマネちゃんのランドセルには宗教のシールが貼られているが、それがはがされた跡があり、宗教を信仰していることが理由で学校でいじめられていた可能性がある。
@pulpulnzenzenman
@pulpulnzenzenman 3 жыл бұрын
90%は絶対合ってる
@ピカリン-e2c
@ピカリン-e2c 2 жыл бұрын
この子わからんなぁ思ってたけどそれか
@Hetastuckftw
@Hetastuckftw Жыл бұрын
after purge march this is very sad.
@raccoonchild
@raccoonchild Жыл бұрын
It was always sad (and disturbing)
@ましろ-y3q
@ましろ-y3q 3 жыл бұрын
0:31 早起き、勉強、片付け など、最初は宗教の色々を交えず普通のいい子として教えている 指切り→約束→宗教の教え 教えを破ると痛い目にあうし、何回もごめんなさいのおまじないを唱えてきたが、その痛い目も愛情だと思って、怖くないしむしろ素敵 0:50 「神様 こんなんだっていいですか 私も甘えちゃっていいですか」 の後に、約束を破らないことを誓っているが、私には「ちがいます」と聞こえるしMVにも ❌ の文字があり、甘えはダメで、甘えると痛い目にあうことをさしているのでは そのあとの 誓います は、約束を破らないようないい子になると言う意味で、歌詞のままだと思う 0:55違います 1:03誓います こうして比べてみるとわりとちょっと違いがあるかもしれない 耳が勝手にそう聞こえてるだけかもしれないけど 1:18 やはり幸せだと思っている… それと、この場面はアマネちゃんとほかの子供たち+宗教の人で、宗教の教えを唱えているも思った 「またって顔をされないように」 という歌詞で、また約束を破ったのかと痛い目似合わないように、いい子でいる覚悟を決めた様子っぽい 1:43 猫が怪我をしたところでキャラクターたちが出てくるシーン ガチャタとリヨネは驚いたような顔をしているが心配はしていなさそうだしあまり気にしていなさそう リヨネに至っては想定内って思ってそう ユウリとゴザケは嫌そうで困った顔をしてて、ユウリはガチャタとリヨネよりも感情がありそうで、この後にも書いてあるんだけどあまり宗教のことを信じてなかったのではということも関係してそう(詳しくは下に) ゴザケは嫌そうとか困ってそうっぽい顔をしてはいるけどどことなく面倒くさそうだなって顔みたいだと思った。「対応に困るなぁ」とか「あーあ(適当)」とか考えてそう。 1:50 リヨネは猫(話上は子供かも)が宗教の教えに反して天罰が下ったと思い、神様に謝ったり願えば怪我が治ると考えている ただ上に書いた通り猫の怪我が想定内であればリヨネが細工して、アマネちゃんがどれほど宗教の事を信じているかを試したり、ただのイタズラで故意であったかもしれない 1:55 そんな猫を見てアマネちゃんは可哀想だと思い、約束、教えを破った猫を助けるが、バレてしまい「痛い目」よりもっと「酷い目」にあう 2:13 キャラにバレてしまい、怒っている顔をしている だが、ユウリだけやるせない顔をしているのが気になった ユウリだけ服がボロボロなのはアマネちゃん達が父子家庭で宗教にお金を使っているため貧乏だが、ユウリだけ特に貧しい思いにさせられているのではと思った(募金活動もしている) だから、宗教の教えを破ったと言うより なんで自分だけこんな貧乏な思いをしてるんだ という気持ちで殴っていたのかもしれない 加えて、私の見落としかもしれないけどキャラクターたちには雲が2つに重なったようなロゴ、マークが描かれてるが、ユウリには描かれていないからユウリは神様を信じているフリをしていただけかもしれないと思った 前半部分でアマネちゃんに手を差し伸べているのもおそらくユウリなので 2:15 酷い目にあっているシーン ガチャタはアマネちゃんの父で、主にガミガミと叱っている ユウリはアマネちゃんの兄か宗教仲間のお兄さん的な存在で、主に暴行を加えている ゴザケは宗教の中心的な役割やそれに近い人物で、主に水(熱湯?)を浴びせている リヨネは宗教の事を完全に信じきった小さな子で純粋であるがために、主に電気ショック(犬用のスタンガンなど?)を浴びせている 2:31 神様にいい子で居ることを誓うことで、宗教のキャラクターたちは痛い目に合わせることをやめて、「ちゃんと誓えば神様が助けてくれる」と思い込ませ、アメとムチで洗脳させている そして神様を完全に信じるように ボイスドラマ「使徒と死と」では、この場面で洗脳されたアマネちゃんのヤバさが聞けます かなりの興奮状態で、最終的には丁寧な口ぶりだったはずが エスに対して お前 と呼びます その後キレたエスがアマネちゃんを抑圧したところ急に弱腰になっていて家庭での虐待の様子が伺えます 他に気になったとこ ・アーチが積み石(妖怪の餓鬼)みたいに見える ・天気→お天道様とか雷様みたいな、神様のイメージにされているとか ・アマネちゃん絶対どっかで自己暗示してそうだなと、登場人物が一応かわいいキャラクターたちだから怖いものを可愛く、怖くないものに見立ててたり、教えを破った時の痛い目にあうことを幸せなことって思っていたり、自己暗示か洗脳でありそうだなって思った ・茶色い猫役がアマネちゃんの手当ての後に消えていて、その猫の元である 決まりを破った子供 は、宗教が殺したかアマネちゃんに殺させた のだと思いました ・アマネちゃんが殺したのが茶色い猫役の人でないとこのMVでは誰を殺したのかが不明 ・アンダーカバーのラスサビでは人の上に乗って棒で泣き叫ぶように殴っている ・ユウリとリヨネの立場がどうかで大分変わってくる ユウリは宗教を信じているかそこまででもないか リヨネは大人か子供かで、大人だったらアマネちゃんを試すような行動をしていたり、子供だったら純粋無垢であるうえの狂気だらけだなって思った 他の方がちょいちょい注目してますが、2:57〜 の裏でアマネちゃんが言ってることは歌詞を繰り返しているだけで、CDやサブスクで見れる off voice はその裏で言っている言葉があるのか無いのかの差分です。 そのためラスサビから裏で何かを言っていることは他のキャラにもあります。分かりやすいのはハルカあたりかな アマネちゃんは 赦す 判決を1回下されると、やっぱり神様が!となってしまいそうだからあえて私は赦さないを選択してみた あと1:34の唐突なジャズ風アレンジ好き
@esse17sinpuru
@esse17sinpuru 11 ай бұрын
@ann3343
@ann3343 3 жыл бұрын
やっぱり純粋な信者っぽい気がする なんか怪我しちゃった猫をあまねちゃんは手当てをしたけど、周りは手当てするな、神に祈れば解決するみたいな考えで手当てしたあまねちゃんは「神を信じてない」と認識された?それで暴力を振るわれて、あまねちゃんも神様の教えを破る人は殺してもいいって考えになって殺人した、誰かは分からん…親かな…
@うか-o3v
@うか-o3v 3 жыл бұрын
雲と笑顔が2つ重なったようなマーク、 途中までは至る所で背景のワンポイントとして出てきてたけど アマネちゃんの目が変わって変身するところでブローチになってる… やっぱりそこで洗脳されたのかな? 今までは周りだけだったけど完全に染まっちゃったよみたいな
@Toma-kf5bi
@Toma-kf5bi 3 жыл бұрын
ハルカ&ユノ→子供 フータ&ムウ→友達 マヒル&シドウ→恋愛 カズイ&アマネ→家族愛??
@arlo6121
@arlo6121 3 жыл бұрын
カズイとアマネ - 約束, 多分
@Toma-kf5bi
@Toma-kf5bi 3 жыл бұрын
@@arlo6121 たしかに!呪いとおまじないは紙一重な感じしますしね、、!
@arlo6121
@arlo6121 3 жыл бұрын
@@Toma-kf5bi 「呪いと呪いは紙一重な感じしますね」って言いました? ごめんね私の日本語は悪いなら(私はまだ日本語を勉強しています)。
@3510desutte
@3510desutte 3 жыл бұрын
@@arlo6121 確かに呪い(のろい)も、御呪い(おまじない)も同じ『呪』の字を使うけど、 呪いは相手に悪意があって行う行為で 御呪いは効き目はないけど人に幸せを願う行為だよ。
@arlo6121
@arlo6121 3 жыл бұрын
@@3510desutte 今、わかった。 ありがとうございました!(‐^▽^‐)
@アイスマン-w4j
@アイスマン-w4j 3 жыл бұрын
歌詞の隅々に「ですよ」「ですか」みたいな言い直しがある所に違和感.なんというか子供のような無邪気さに無理やり礼儀正しさを貼り付けたような言葉.誰かに強制されていたのかな。
@user-ie6nv5tp3d
@user-ie6nv5tp3d 3 жыл бұрын
ゆるキャラのおでこに丸い点付いてるの大仏みたいだな〜って調べたら白毫って言って世界をあまねく照らす光をイメージしてるらしいです。 あまねく…アマネちゃん…
@黒猫-h3d4n
@黒猫-h3d4n 3 жыл бұрын
In the Milgram app and Twitter, Amane answered 20 interrogation questions: 1. What are you good at? "Nothing that I can call a talent. Perhaps studying. I do well in my Japanese class." 2. Who do you admire? "My father. My father has been on a journey for a while, but that is something very honorable." 3. What would you do if you will be forgiven no matter what? "Nothing really. I am not lacking anything." 4. Is your family proud of you? "Of course. No daughter is as exemplary as I. 5. What would you want to ride in an amusement park? "That is a place I should not go to." 6. Difference between a grown-up and a child? "There is no borderline there. I think there are grown-up children and childish grown-ups." 7. Do you love yourself? "I have never considered it from the perspective of love and hate, but I do think I am a good child." 8. Which would you prioritize, morals or emotions? "Both are trivial." 9. Family? "It was my father, my mother, and I." 10. Any prisoners you are close with? "If I were to say, I guess it would be Yuno and Mahiru"
@黒猫-h3d4n
@黒猫-h3d4n 3 жыл бұрын
11. Favorite type of meat? "I do not eat meat." 12. What is the meaning of life? "I think it is something you learn for the first time when you look behind yourself when it ends. I do not want to have regrets then, so I live on with all my might." 13. Who do you want to meet right now? "My father. I want him to praise me for working hard." 14. Do you listen to music? "Not really to songs that are highly entertaining." 15. When do you wake up/go to bed? "I go to sleep at 9PM, and wake up at 6AM." 16. Do you believe in past existences and fortune-telling? "Although there are many fake ones." 17. What would you do if the world ends tomorrow? "If everything ends? Then, I might do all sorts of things I have never done before." 18. Do you regret your "murder"? "No. It was a natural obligation." 19. Do you want to be forgiven? "Of course. I anticipate that you will make the right judgment." 20. Any complaints about being imprisoned? "No. Because this is a trial by God."
@hello--hello
@hello--hello 3 жыл бұрын
i think her answer to number 8 is really interesting. she says that both morals and emotions are trivial. while i understand why she thinks emotions are, saying morals are trivial is more curious to me. i kind of thought that she thought what she's done is right. that 'god's' ((really, what the cult tells her are his rules)) rules are her moral system, that he is moral, and therefore she is, and she's done what she must because it is right. but she thinks morals are trivial. so, if it was not a moral obligation that she had to commit murder for, perhaps she believes that the cult and her murder are amoral. they are wrong, but they are *necessary*. am i making sense? idk. it's just that a lot of fundamentalists and religious extremists hold onto what 'god has said' for the direction of their entire life. he is the ultimate good, the ultimate 'right', the ultimate 'just', and they must live by that because that's what's right. but she doesn't care about what's 'right' in a moral sense. it's just a thought, idk. ALSOOO, she's close with yuno? the leading theory for yuno rn is that she got an abortion, which religious people *normally* find to be sinful in nature. it could be that she just doesn't know about yuno's crime, or maybe it's that yuno didn't get an abortion, or even that amane's cult isn't pro-birth. -which might make sense because they had a kid kill someone, but i digress-
@kestarkes1651
@kestarkes1651 3 жыл бұрын
"i do not eat meat" im worried, they made her a vegetarian
@ADayinWhite
@ADayinWhite 3 жыл бұрын
@@kestarkes1651 Weirdly enough, I had the same thought when I read that. Honestly, that sounds like nothing compared to what I've read some cults have required.
@Go_Quokka62
@Go_Quokka62 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, where did you find these??
@dia4657
@dia4657 3 жыл бұрын
My theory is that Amane grew up in a cult akin to that of Happy Science (幸福の科学). She grew up in this cult and was forced to be a child actor to recruit more members for this cult in particular. [To provide some background context, Happy Science (also known as The Institute for Research in Human Happiness) is one of many new spiritual movements in Japan. However, this particular cult has connections within the entertainment industry. Some of the members joined through the influence of their parents at a young age, such as the case of actor Fumika Shimizu.] Mow, in terms of cast members, the main five are as follows: ハピネス応援おねえさん - ももせあまね Happiness Support Sister Momose Amane-The protagonist of the show. まさじめロボット - ガチャタ Serious Robot Gachata -Amane’s Father 思いやり兄さん ユウリ Compassionate Older Brother Yuuri-Amane’s Older Brother 不思議なお祈り屋さん ゴザケ Mysterious Monk Gozake-Amane’s Religion Teacher すこやかおてんば姫 リヨネ Healthy Tomboy Riyone-Perhaps a high priestess within the cult? 0:24 - The first one we meet is Gachata, who acts that as a teacher to Amane. Notice in all three images shown during Gachata’s section, the person is depicted to be smiling. 0:40 - The second we meet is Yuuri, the older brother character of the show. He wears a donation box with a smiling cloud placed on it. Coins are put into the box before it becomes over flooded with money. (Could be referring to people donating to the organization.) 1:16 - We meet the monk Gozake, who acts as the religious teacher of the show. In his section, he teaches Amane to sing and is joined by four other child co-stars. 1:32 - Finally, we meet Riyone. She doesn’t have a specific part in the show. However, due to the bandages on her character, she might be a priestess involved with the cult that prays for people who are sick and unhappy. 1:42 - An accident occurs, injuring one of the co-stars. Riyone joins in, reminding the others that praying is the only way for the injured person to truly get better. Amane starts to realize that this isn’t the case; that she can do something to help them. This is why she takes it upon herself to help them. 2:08 - Judging by this scene in particular, she knows she isn’t supposed to be helping them out like this, which is why she asks them to keep it a secret. However, it is in vain, as she is discovered anyway. This leads to 2:15, where it’s implied she was abused as punishment for her actions. “Only if I could be a good girl.” is most likely referring to her breaking the rules of the group to help someone, and views herself as a bad child. All of this builds into the line of 2:32 - “Dear wise one, am I worthy?” She realizes her actions are wrong, and she prays to be able to repent for her mistakes. She broke the rules of the group and has to pray in order to be forgiven by god. This is when she decides that the only way to repent is by removing the problem itself. (An interesting note at 2:40, this is the only time in the MV where her eyes are no longer hollow, for a lack of better words. This could be referring to her achieving happiness or being completely brainwashed into believing so.) At this point, she fully endorses the cult and embraces the nature of the happiness they’ve been trying to spread, thus leading to her transformation (into a magical girl) and reconciliation with the rest of the cast. We are now at the end of the video, at 3:21. Amane seems to be watching what appears to be the show in question, now with deadpan eyes. She is traumatized by the events that occurred. Now, in terms of the murder in this video, I believe it's heavily implied to be one of the extras, in this case, the cat that got injured. This is why the cat is not seen present at 3:10 with the rest of the extra characters, they are now deceased. The motive behind this was heavily related to the abuse she suffered after helping the cat after the stage light accident. This leads to the line of her yelling “I’m sorry! I’m sorry for breaking the rules!” in her voice teaser video. The murder was an act of repentance for breaking the rules.
@dia4657
@dia4657 3 жыл бұрын
take this all with a grain of salt tho this is just my personal take on what happened
@starpeep5769
@starpeep5769 3 ай бұрын
Fun fact: yuuri can mean profitable
@わらびもち-z4u
@わらびもち-z4u 5 ай бұрын
2:57くらいのところ辺で天音ちゃんの声で歌詞で ''もういいなんて言わないです 笑いあって許してくれますか 誓いますもういい子になるしかないですよ'' のところ耳をすまして聞くと 天音ちゃんの自身に訴えかけるような声が聞こえる 歌詞と同じで聞こえにくいかもだけど 是非試して聞いてみて欲しい 天音ちゃんの自身に訴えかける声は 最後だけが違ってて ''もういい子になるしかない...'' っていう感じになってます ミルグラム細かいね〜
@一般の名無し
@一般の名無し 2 ай бұрын
ラスサビの 3:01 の所でうっすら アマネちゃんの「もういい子になるしか無い…」って辛そうな声が聞こえた
@__sr.89
@__sr.89 2 ай бұрын
見返してみたら私もうっすら聞こえた気がします!!
@うか-o3v
@うか-o3v 3 жыл бұрын
リヨネの登場直後に照明が落ちてるのとか 怪我を祈って治すっていう提案をしたのがリヨネだとか 他の3匹とは一緒になんかしてるのにリヨネだけ何もないのとか リヨネが元凶な気がするなあアマネかわいい
@夜ノです
@夜ノです 3 жыл бұрын
それに医療に反対的なくせに耳が絆創膏になってるって明らか矛盾してますよね
@user-eg8dv7cq7t
@user-eg8dv7cq7t 3 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃんがちゃんと神様を信じているのかを、試したんじゃないかなと思います。 リヨネが照明が落ちるよう細工している間他の人達が気を引いていたから、他の人達が何かやっている時リヨネだけいなかったのかなと……
@夜ノです
@夜ノです 3 жыл бұрын
@えの 確かにそれはありえますね。 他の人は元々あった宗教のルールを教えているようでしたが 証明の件に関して、リヨネはまるでその時ルールを作ったかのように見えた。
@夜ノです
@夜ノです 3 жыл бұрын
@えの まって… 名前の最後が一緒…… 親子説とかあるのか…?
@夜ノです
@夜ノです 3 жыл бұрын
@E 教祖とか上の立場の娘なら洗脳もしやすいだろうよ。 まあ実の娘を洗脳させるほどの毒親かどうかは分からないけど。 リヨネが本当に神を信じてるのかもしれないし
@amedaishouri9975
@amedaishouri9975 3 жыл бұрын
So there are quite a few theories for Amane going around, and a lot of it is scattered information, but I wanted to post something with what I’ve interpreted from the music video and lyrics as well as pose my own theory. The one that came to mind immediately was the fixation on the cult aspect because that’s all I had seen before the official MV and song’s release. I still believe that the cult plays a large role in this, for reasons I will disclose below, but after watching the music video I’m starting to think that the magical girl aesthetic plays a larger role than simply being a metaphor for how Amane feels about the cult. In short, I believe that Amane is acting as the poster child for the cult and they’re even televising their “teachings” under the guise of a children’s show. There seem to be a lot of elements to me that indicate that everything is staged (for one, the stage light that “accidentally” falls at 1:34) as well as the fact that there is an intro and an outro that are reminiscent of children shows I used to watch when I was younger (the first one that came to mind being Yo Gabba Gabba). The video continues onto a character introduction sequence--the first one is Gachata, the Strict Robot. Gachata seems to be a teacher of sorts that teaches kids how to behave “properly,” which wouldn’t be too out of place in a kid’s show. He seems to place a heavy emphasis on waking up early, attending to one’s studies diligently, and also keeping things tidy. The next character to be introduced is Yuri, the Compassionate Big Bro, who seems to be playing the role of a beggar asking for donations--and as seen in the music video he receives quite a few donations. This represents the underhanded methods that the cult may employ to get money from unsuspecting individuals, but it also could represent the donations that come from others who have been indoctrinated. (It’s important to take note of the animals that appear in this sequence). The sequence after Yuri’s intro is a scene that appears to be reminiscent of a Japanese game show where they are asking Amane for the “right answer,” and she evidently gets it wrong and she is then punished by Gachata who flicks her forehead and causes her to fall over comically. This means that Amane continuously minimizes the punishments she receives by seeing them as nothing more than light admonishments even though they likely went beyond what is normal when scolding a child. She is then helped up by who I assume to be Yuri (based on the white glove and five fingers), which seems like the fifth stage of cult indoctrination. They’re giving Amane “tough love” by punishing her and then being kind to her afterward once she learns to “be a good girl.” If that’s the case, then it means that Amane wasn’t fully indoctrinated into the cult, but I’ll cover its relevance later. After this, Gozake, the Strange Monk, is introduced and his role appears to be as the spiritual leader--the one who spreads the teachings and ideology within the cult. I hope you remembered the animals from Yuri’s sequence because if you’re paying close attention another animal seems to have joined--one who hasn’t donated to the cult--an orange cat. Then, Riyome, the Energetic Tomboy, gets an intro card, but no role afterward (although based on her bandaid design we could be led to believe that she’s a healer of sorts). However, instead of her helping those who are injured the next sequence that plays is the stage light falling on top of the orange cat. Here, I believe that Riyome’s role is much more sinister than the previous characters. After all, the cult has to spread their teachings, and what could possibly be more convincing than a live demonstration of their teachings? Just in case you didn't know, stage lights are pretty darn secure. They don’t suddenly fall like that unless they’re simply that old, but they’re often checked and tested _before_ anyone gets near them which means that the stage light was likely sabotaged, by who? Of course, you’ve probably guessed it by now, but it was likely Riyome. This is further evidenced by the fact that she conveniently manages to bring up one of the cult’s teachings--that spiritual medicine and guidance are all that is required to heal physical afflictions. This is where Amane not being fully indoctrinated comes into play. For the first time (that we see), Amane seems to doubt their words. She watched as the cat suffered and wondered if this was really something that could be solved by praying and wishing for better health (1:52). The next scene that plays is absolutely heart-wrenching. Amane heals the cat using actual medicine, you know, science and not some spiritual prayer. The four characters from before catch Amane just as she seems to be trying to convince the cat to keep what she did a secret which is why both of them are so shocked to be found. Some look disappointed, others (looking at you Riyome & Gachata) are downright terrifying. Then, we see a sequence of Amane receiving different punishments from each of the characters--a majority of them corporal punishments. First is Riyome, who appears to be electrocuting Amane, which, when considering her role in the cult (setting up “accidents” where people get hurt so that they can be magically healed through prayer and if they don’t get healed then they just didn’t believe hard enough) isn’t too surprising. Next, is Gozake which reminds me of the old tradition where monks would meditate under ice-cold waterfalls, he may have repeatedly poured ice-cold water on Amane to replicate this. Next, is Yuri, the supposed “Compassionate Big Bro” who seems to have no problem raising his hand against Amane and physically hitting her (extended arm and comic book effects often used when striking). Finally, we see Gachata who seems to be ringing the alarm that is too loud for Amane, representative of the fact that he verbally scolds her for her actions. I imagine that while this happens they try to push the blame onto Amane, that the reason she’s suffering is because _she_ broke a promise and wasn’t a good girl. And as the sequence would have us believe...they don’t punish her just once, they repeat until she’s been completely brainwashed and accepting of the cult’s teachings. This is evidenced in the following scene where Amane picks herself up and clasps her hands together in prayer before undergoing a “magical girl” transformation. There are rings around her eyes that weren’t there before, she gets a “magic wand,” her bowtie changes to a brooch of sorts with the cult’s symbol (a cloud with what appear to be smiling faces on it), and wings in the shape of a cloud appear behind her. Then, we see Amane’s crime take place--but only for a second (2:47). She raises the “magic wand” and administers divine punishment on the non-believer (the cat she helped from earlier) while the four characters watch and cheer her on. As we can see from Undercover, Amane appears to be beating her victim with a rod, and her voice line when committing her crime is, “I’m sorry, I’m sorry. I’m sorry for breaking the rules!” The next sequence that plays is Amane fully accepting her role and spreading the cult’s teachings while saying things like, “I won’t say ‘I’ve had enough [of this cult].’ Will you laugh with me and forgive me?” And behind her singing, you can hear Amane practically begging them to forgive her (2:56-3:03). And then the outro plays and we can see the credits roll--evidently, Amane’s title is “Happiness Support Sister.” So, overall, the video is a happy fun time where nothing goes wrong! /s With the information we have, I can’t see Amane as anything _but_ innocent, if anything she’s a victim as well. However, I can’t help but worry that if we vote her innocent it would only solidify her belief that what the cult had her do was the “right” thing to do. What do you guys think?
@thefallenblue
@thefallenblue 3 жыл бұрын
this is an interesting interpretation! and a good point I didn't think about at first, I wonder if voting her innocent will make her think her actions were okay... though I don't feel right putting all the blame on her for this either, since y'know... the straight up horrifying manipulation and abuse ;; I guess this is another reminder that this binary voting system is set up to be full of holes in the first place. We don't even know where voting either will lead, but we're in for the ride I suppose. what does the shifty rabbit want with us...
@ruthalcantara3251
@ruthalcantara3251 3 жыл бұрын
Ahaha I love your theory and it’s so sad, but I do agree with you that She probably would end up going back into the cult and going through the cycle of abuse. Even thought I wanted to vote for her, but it might be better for her to stay in prison then go back.
@thefallenblue
@thefallenblue 3 жыл бұрын
@@ruthalcantara3251 Yeah... that's the thing, as with many of the trials the answer we're forced to make won't fix most of them. What does forgive mean? Are we setting them free? They don't have to atone for what they did? Because they are all essentially guilty of what happened. But what is not forgiving them, the death penalty? Life in prison/Milgram? If we look at it one way that won't solve it or be fair. Many of these characters need therapy, or the degree of their crime isn't only their fault, do they deserve to die on behalf of everything that happened? Like here, I agree, I'm so afraid she might be broken after all that but it's also not her fault, is leaving a child in prison okay? Or giving her the death penalty for this? If anything someone needs to go after that "cult" before they cause more problems... but I'm just rambling, this system was never stated to be fair haha. In the end the vote is your choice, we can only see how this goes and appreciate the amazing songs and animation along the way. It's interesting to think about how Milgram itself ties into this, I wonder how much we'll find out in the future
@amedaishouri9975
@amedaishouri9975 3 жыл бұрын
@@thefallenblue Yeah, I think that with a lot of these characters receiving _proper_ help and therapy is better than something like the death penalty/remaining in the MILGRAM (jail) forever or they get to go off scot-free. Though I do have a theory that the MILGRAM may be an experiment with some sort of 'Gotcha!' ending, I can't be sure. I am interested to see what happens as a result of our voting in the second round of trials.
@thefallenblue
@thefallenblue 3 жыл бұрын
@@amedaishouri9975 since Milgram itself is the name of a psychology experiment I have the same feeling, and Es and the Jackalope are huge mysteries as well. Though, I'm also very curious to see the consequences of our actions. Just two prisoners left already hmm...
@Luxito5476
@Luxito5476 Жыл бұрын
This girl honors MILGRAM's name. A clear example of what Milgram wanted to prove with his experiments: people can do horrible things just because they are "following orders"
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 Жыл бұрын
when the IRL Milgram had people answers that they pressed the button and did not even know why fully is so fuked
@KomoraKriogeniczna
@KomoraKriogeniczna Жыл бұрын
On top of that, I think it's slightly implied she electrocuted her victim - in the last chorus she uses a magic wand with a lightning bolt symbol. So yeah, my theory's is that her case is a clear reference to actual experiments.
@holismey7614
@holismey7614 Жыл бұрын
​@@KomoraKriogenicznasounds cool, but in the undercover mv, she is shown beating her victim with what appears to be a baseball bat so idk-
@batrex_
@batrex_ Жыл бұрын
​@@holismey7614That's Mikoto
@stefperb9531
@stefperb9531 Жыл бұрын
@@holismey7614 Fuuta is also shown killing someone but his victim ended herself so I wouldn't bank on Undercover being 100% real
@ゆきまる-k9g
@ゆきまる-k9g 3 жыл бұрын
0:04 もし宗教関連の内容なら、ここのドンドンって音は青いロボットがアマネの家に入る時のノック音かな…
@唐揚げすこ
@唐揚げすこ Ай бұрын
🤖<宗教に入れば救われるのに…
@사람-z9b
@사람-z9b Ай бұрын
오..
@ぐみねこ-g5h
@ぐみねこ-g5h 3 жыл бұрын
ちょちょちょちょ…………そのゆるかわいいイラストでめちゃめちゃ闇を感じません????天才
@user-bi9if6kz8p
@user-bi9if6kz8p 3 жыл бұрын
とっっても可愛いけど人を殺してるんだよな… [視聴後] 色んな表情見れてやはりとっっても可愛かったけどPV不穏すぎワロタ
@yatsu_1642
@yatsu_1642 3 жыл бұрын
気づかないで精神的に追いやってたかもしれないから…
@user-nv8vn9lb4q
@user-nv8vn9lb4q 3 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃんは自分の思考を重要視してる感じなのに、このMVめっちゃ誰かに問いかける歌詞なのこわい
@aaaaa8852
@aaaaa8852 Жыл бұрын
アマネちゃん、もし二審MVではめちゃくちゃダークな部分出してきたらやばいな、好きになっちまう
@derorianmeru
@derorianmeru Жыл бұрын
出して来たな笑
@RENA-lq7jx
@RENA-lq7jx Жыл бұрын
目がやばくなったね
@o-02-63週末取り
@o-02-63週末取り Жыл бұрын
自分の思想を否定されて狂っちまったのかな?
@ananami2153
@ananami2153 Жыл бұрын
起きた物事は神が与えた試練であり、それを自力で乗り越えることが正しい。って教えか。 それをアマネが手助け(治療)したために罰が下される。 世間一般や人の善性としての行動として正しいが、宗教的にはアウト。
@komadome_
@komadome_ Жыл бұрын
@@ananami2153なるほど
@TogerLiker
@TogerLiker 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe Amane's parents were antivaxxers and they punished her for healing a kitty with medicine instead of prayers
@Laydoe1
@Laydoe1 3 жыл бұрын
Why did i find this funny
@aniinnnn
@aniinnnn 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@0riginal_zer030
@0riginal_zer030 3 жыл бұрын
No, they're worse... They're faith healers. They got another one, the sick bastards!
@snoweleis
@snoweleis 3 жыл бұрын
Nice indra icon
@jundoun3275
@jundoun3275 3 жыл бұрын
ROFLMAO
@v_agm06
@v_agm06 3 жыл бұрын
初見サムネほいほいされた人間なんですけど 最初曲やMVの感じが可愛いなーとか思いながら眺めてたら最後にビックリしました…。 …気になるからちょっと他のも見てきます。
@user-td9hb7mm6z
@user-td9hb7mm6z 3 жыл бұрын
こうやって参加者が増えてくんめっちゃ嬉しい
@リョウ-q8i
@リョウ-q8i 11 ай бұрын
問題を出されてるとこアマネ自身が○って思ってるとこが不正解だったり1:09のアマネと他2マスコットの○×が逆になってんのはここではまだアマネの感性は一般に近くて宗教とは乖離してたって言う表現されてんのかなこれ もしあってるならこれ怖すぎるな
@wai_65_ng_
@wai_65_ng_ 3 жыл бұрын
うーん赦したいけど… 03:01 ここのいい子になるしかない、が凄い切羽詰まっていてなんか苦しそうなんだな…投票どうしよう
@アニメとゲーム好きの人
@アニメとゲーム好きの人 3 жыл бұрын
ごめんなさい。昨日ミルグラムさんを知った新参者なのですが、投票とはなんでしょうか?又、どこで行われてますかね? 宜しければ教えて下さい。
@ボカボカ
@ボカボカ 3 жыл бұрын
コメ主ではありませんが失礼いたします、投票とはそれぞれのキャラについて描かれた曲を聴いて考察をして、その考察を元にそのキャラを赦すか赦さないか投票で決めます。 投票はApple Storeでミルグラムと検索すれば出てきますのでそこからできます、今はカズイとアマネの投票が可能です
@アニメとゲーム好きの人
@アニメとゲーム好きの人 3 жыл бұрын
@@ボカボカ ご丁寧にありがとうございます!
@柿の種-y1u
@柿の種-y1u 6 ай бұрын
1:00のデコピンしてからすぐ手を差し伸べるのが洗脳のそれで……😭
@憂う-x5z
@憂う-x5z 3 жыл бұрын
今回も案の定考察は出来ないのでフルとMVの解禁とアマネちゃんの可愛さに歓喜することにします…
@いるか-x5y
@いるか-x5y 3 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃん、助けたのが掟に触れたのか……超偉い子では……????? ひぇ……最後……最後ォ…… 目が死んでる……自分はどこってしてる……ウッ……(死)(語彙力)
@huwarari9926
@huwarari9926 2 жыл бұрын
今も神様を信じちゃって馬鹿だな…って感じの虚ろな目をしてる…
@shimemeji
@shimemeji Жыл бұрын
i will never see this the same after watching purge march
@ぽんこ-o1c
@ぽんこ-o1c 3 жыл бұрын
あまねちゃんのこと1番すきだし天使だけど、これまでの曲の中でMV見終わった後の気持ち悪さだんとつ(褒め言葉)
@ましぴ-g8u
@ましぴ-g8u 3 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃんにムウちゃんのような ”裏” みたいな…まだ何か隠れてる気がして……この曲だけじゃ実は何にもわかってないとかざらにありそう… こんな平和なことなんて絶対ないでしょ…
@reinstancedump3931
@reinstancedump3931 3 жыл бұрын
HELLO AFTER RELEASE THEORY I think it's extremely obvious that the robots were trying to tell amane what they're doing is love (out of religion), the robots represent fake animals, which means fake love. Whenever she approaches a "real animal" she gets punished, because she wasn't supposed to find affection and comfort outside of her religion. And at the end, she wanted to be a good girl and killed the person she truly bonded with so she won't get punished anymore.
@reinstancedump3931
@reinstancedump3931 3 жыл бұрын
+ God were supposed to give comfort and religious people are supposed to rely to God. So when she helped the real animal, it's as if showing that you don't need to rely to God for comfort, which is probably why she also gets punished from helping? It's just a theory, but it's possible
@bonesnatcher
@bonesnatcher 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll drink to that !
@newrogue5737
@newrogue5737 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus that's dark... I love it. Also I think the stage light hitting the animal might represent them realising it's all lies as we see more animals gather as if more people are joint the cult.
@NeckTie_Lucifer
@NeckTie_Lucifer 3 жыл бұрын
thats a good theory :0
@reinstancedump3931
@reinstancedump3931 3 жыл бұрын
@Newrogue haha yeah, being in a super religious family myself I can definitely understand what amane is feeling,, to outsiders it doesn't seem scary because you're just doing "religious practices" but it's actually some heavy brainwashing, just sugar-coated with religion :/ oppression and brainwashing towards children is extremely common but never noticed because it's sugar-coated with religion. It's sad really
@takoume-custom
@takoume-custom 3 жыл бұрын
1:08からのアマネちゃんと周りの○×が反転してるの、闇を重く感じる。 家族間の宗教系の洗脳ってほんと根が深い。 怖い。 祈れば怪我治るとかアホかよ、アマネちゃんをもっと褒めろよってなった。
@ぐみねこ-g5h
@ぐみねこ-g5h 3 жыл бұрын
なんでこんな小さい子がヒトゴロシになってしまったんだよぉ…………お姉さん悲しいよお。。。。
@user-eu6ns9rj1d
@user-eu6ns9rj1d 3 жыл бұрын
投票すること自体を躊躇していましたがボイスドラマ聴いて投票する決意がつきました。それぐらい強烈で衝撃を受けた内容でした。是非ボイスドラマ聴いてほしい、アマネちゃんへの解像度が更に上がる。
@坂本治郎
@坂本治郎 Жыл бұрын
CDですか!?どこで聴けますか!?
@ざっそう-f3f
@ざっそう-f3f Жыл бұрын
@@坂本治郎 囚人の楽曲が出るたびにシングルのCDが発売されていると思います
@まちゅ-q3q
@まちゅ-q3q Жыл бұрын
第二審みてから見るとめっちゃ柔らかく描いてたのが分かる、、。 それにしたって、医療行為をすることが悪な宗教なんて死んでも入りたくないよね😢 だって風邪ひいても病気しても病院にいけないんだよ、、それが天命って言われておしまいなんでしょ。辛すぎる、、、。
@マリオアルプスの
@マリオアルプスの 3 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃんのウサギっぽい衣装かわいいなぁ
@mar__mmd
@mar__mmd 3 жыл бұрын
でもこれ許すにしたら「思想肯定」ってなるよね…? 肯定しちゃだめくない??
@haise873
@haise873 2 жыл бұрын
色んな考察があるけど、全部アマネちゃんの親の責任っぽくない? アマネちゃんは小さいし、責任を負うことは出来ないと思うな。 赦してカウンセリングを受けてもらうべきだと切実に思う()
@藍色えのぐ
@藍色えのぐ 3 жыл бұрын
最後のアマネちゃん、『そういう教育のためのテレビを見させられていた』ってことなのか…………… 宗教じみた家族が嫌になって56したのかと思ってたけど むしろ教えに従ってネコチャン(に例えられた誰か)をみ56しにしてしまったんだとしたら話が変わってくるよなぁ…
@うぉんばっと-b4i
@うぉんばっと-b4i 3 жыл бұрын
2:16ぐらいの所でアマネちゃんがされてる事って ガチャタ→目覚まし時計の騒音=不眠状態にさせる ユウリ→暴力 ゴザケ→水を浴びせる リヨネ→電撃 かな?女性が折檻する時は腕力を使わないスタンガン等を使っていて 最後の魔法少女のようになるシーンで持ってるステッキがカミナリマークなのはアマネちゃん自身も折檻と称して殺害に加担してしまったとか? 最後のシーンに怪我した猫ちゃん居なくなってるし… アマネちゃんが悪いようには思えないから…許しちゃいそうになる…
@RainsIce1102
@RainsIce1102 Жыл бұрын
変身する時にミニキャラ?の瞳がグル目になってたからやっぱり洗脳されてるのかな…
@motiwanko
@motiwanko Жыл бұрын
ガチャタは音関係→人格否定とかの暴言 とかもありそう
@サク-q9q
@サク-q9q 4 ай бұрын
水をかけるくらいで洗脳はできなそうですしお風呂とかに無理やり顔をつけさせて溺れさせてたのかも?
@otakugirl4437
@otakugirl4437 Жыл бұрын
Now after the second song I can't see it normal anymore; it is creepy as hell save my girl
@Ryou1217
@Ryou1217 3 жыл бұрын
0:00に出てくる積石には「道に迷わぬように正しい道へ導く」って意味があるみたいです。 もしかしたらアマネちゃんはいい子でいることが正しさって親に教育(洗脳?)されているからいい子でいようとしているのかな…?
@わらびもち-z4u
@わらびもち-z4u 5 ай бұрын
歌詞の中に出てくる愛だからって言う言葉が アマネちゃん自身が暴力を振るわれていることに対して これは愛なんだって自分自身を納得 させようとしてるのが伝わってくるのが なんか……悲しいよね……
@よっしー-x5l3e
@よっしー-x5l3e 3 жыл бұрын
全然違うかもだけど この「おまじない」っていう題名が 一瞬「おまえじゃない」って見えて 今までのボイスとかからそんなふうに言われてたっぽそうだったから鳥肌立った もしかして...そんな事まで考えてある?
@水星みょん
@水星みょん 3 жыл бұрын
それを考えるとかなり… どうなるか分からなくなる… それまで考えてそうだから怖いなぁ
@かるぴす-h8y
@かるぴす-h8y 3 жыл бұрын
鳥肌飛び越えてチキンになった
@いただきまんぐーす-p2z
@いただきまんぐーす-p2z 3 жыл бұрын
チキン肌になってしまいました
@user-Virtualliker-16
@user-Virtualliker-16 3 жыл бұрын
まさか…
@no7name4
@no7name4 3 жыл бұрын
御呪い、お呪言(すべておまじない)あとおま『じ』ないとか?
@miraivy9000
@miraivy9000 2 жыл бұрын
よしこれも100万再生いけば、エスcoverが聴けるぞ!!!エスのちゅっが聴けるぞ!!!!(尊) 聴きまくるか!!!!皆!再生しまくるんだ!!!!
@sekaowa-
@sekaowa- 2 жыл бұрын
あと一万!!!!!!!!1日20は聞きます!!!!!
@Takeda-v9p
@Takeda-v9p 2 жыл бұрын
よっしゃ頑張る
@crewnowar3740
@crewnowar3740 2 жыл бұрын
百万キター(゚∀゚ 三 ゚∀゚)
@miraivy9000
@miraivy9000 2 жыл бұрын
皆の者!!エスのちゅっが聴けるようになるな!!!やったね!!!(大歓喜)
@綿巻夢夜葉
@綿巻夢夜葉 2 жыл бұрын
聴いてきたぞ・・・すごかった・・・
@つむる-u5k
@つむる-u5k 2 жыл бұрын
新曲への待ち遠しさとアマネちゃんの変わり様をみたくて何度も聞きにきてしまう
@とまと-x6j
@とまと-x6j Жыл бұрын
粛清マーチ聴いた後で聴き返すと凄い歌詞がわかりやすい。 1番だけの歌詞考察になるけども…コメント残しておきます。 「あの幸せの指切りは やぶるととても痛い いやってほどにしてくれました ごめんなさいのおまじないを」 これは、宗教の教えを破るととても痛い(虐待が待っている)ってことで、 嫌ってほどに自分は謝ったってこと? 「でも全然怖くないですよ 愛だから 逆にいい感じって思えます ほら素敵でしょう?」 これは虐待も愛だと思ってるから、怖くない、逆に良い感じ、素敵って自分に言い聞かせてるまたは強がってるのかな? 「神様 こんなんだっていいですか 私も甘えちゃっていいですか 誓います やぶっちゃうだなんてわるい子は めっ! だよ」 これは、こんな私でも良いですか?って言ってるけど、神様は悪い子は粛清されるべきってこと? 「ソーリーだって言えますよ 私だって希望はあるんだよ 誓います もういい子になるしかない! ですよ」 此処でも出てきた「ごめんなさい」の表現。もういい子になるしかないって、宗教通りにするしかないって言い聞かせてる、または洗脳が始まってる?
@tare_shouga17
@tare_shouga17 3 жыл бұрын
やっと推しの曲…サムネから可愛いが溢れてるけどどんな曲なのか怖すぎて無理
@angrygoat9099
@angrygoat9099 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the overall idea that everyone should vote to "Forgive or Not forgive" is tiring Not only Jackelope already said in his mv that you can also just vote for any reasons you like, it's literally been confirmed the verdicts have an actual influence on the characters and their arc. I can garantee you no one ever thought Amane was guilty for being brainwashed by her cult, in fact I remember the votes being at literally 80% innocent back then. The only reason people still voted guilty anyways is because voting innocent might actually enhence her brainwashing. Hell there's literally some character development during her birthday diologue when Shido asks her if she wants cake. Amane is usually cold and acts super serious and hates stuff that she deems "childish" like cake but here it's hinted that it's a façade and that she does actually want cake.
@pechaykun5959
@pechaykun5959 2 жыл бұрын
She definitely looks like the victim here for me. As if she just had taken her villain arc.
@angrygoat9099
@angrygoat9099 2 жыл бұрын
@@pechaykun5959 Oh yeah! I agree, I'm not upset towards people who voted her innocent at all. I completely get it. It's just that it's a little sad how some people have been quite toxic about those who voted differently without understanding their pov, which is what annoyed me.
@kotyashh777
@kotyashh777 2 жыл бұрын
i dint think she/he is innocent.But she is brainwashed by cult or she doing this because she want
@ainimimin
@ainimimin 2 жыл бұрын
@@kotyashh777 i honestly think she's being brainwashed or has been raised with her mindset. when people you look up to keep repeating the same thing to you, you will tend to believe it and have a hard time breaking away. but amane in this mv has shown multiple instances of uncertainty towards their teachings and words, honestly there may have been a chance to break her out of her mindset that was drilled onto her, but from the results of the guilty verdict from T1.. yeah, don't think thats happening anytime soon.
@monolinny1817
@monolinny1817 Жыл бұрын
If this theory is true about her character development, then the guilty verdict must’ve changed her, not only about the brainwashing, but that she cannot break the rules AT ALL (no more wanting sweets) Which could mean no hope in saving her now ;x; (Wish that it’s not the case)
@ericstoica714
@ericstoica714 Жыл бұрын
Electrocution in magic = taser in purge march Water in magic = held under boiling water in purge march Beating...in magic = ...well...THE PARALLELS ARE TOO SAD BC OF PURGE MARCH😭
@iciarsoto8860
@iciarsoto8860 Жыл бұрын
I think they submerged her in the bathtube or sprayed her with pressurised water from the shower hose , if it was boiling she would have burns in her face
@Byssa6
@Byssa6 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a comment on Purge March suggesting the water might have been really COLD.
@aimeewazdnah
@aimeewazdnah Жыл бұрын
they predicted the future💀
@spoonSTGfan
@spoonSTGfan Жыл бұрын
if everything in this is THAT connected to the story, what's the electric (amane's electric, not the taser thing with the pink robot) and pose in 2:46?
@Byssa6
@Byssa6 Жыл бұрын
@@spoonSTGfan maybe it represents how Amane “punished” her mom after the cat disappeared
@えだまめ-t9y
@えだまめ-t9y Жыл бұрын
今見ると、このキャラクター達って、宗〇のマスコットキャラクターだったんだなって分かるわ…見た目に反してすげーえげつないことするな。
@ぷっちんぷりん-j4m
@ぷっちんぷりん-j4m 3 жыл бұрын
マヒルみたいに明るいMVは裏にどの加害者よりも闇を感じて怖い
@user-kn3yv5fv9o
@user-kn3yv5fv9o 3 жыл бұрын
アマネちゃんを許したらアマネちゃんを傷つけてきた思想や行動の肯定になって「間違ってたのは私だ」になるので許しちゃダメだと思うなあ
@Artsyemmjae
@Artsyemmjae 3 жыл бұрын
The way they punished her for no reason, They literally hate seeing a girlboss Winning at such a young age
@mars2387
@mars2387 3 жыл бұрын
this is my favorite comment
@cannacae
@cannacae 3 жыл бұрын
YOOOO emjae? this is so crazy seeing you here? Wild
@Artsyemmjae
@Artsyemmjae 3 жыл бұрын
@@cannacae Omg!! Canna you found like my favorite KZbin comment I've ever made! Its crazy to think we're reuniting in the KZbin comments
@cannacae
@cannacae 3 жыл бұрын
@@Artsyemmjae i hope youve been doing well! honestly? youre so right
@Artsyemmjae
@Artsyemmjae 3 жыл бұрын
@@cannacae Yeah I'm doing really great tbh! I hope you're doing well! I can't believe it's been like what almost 2 years?? That's crazy
@shus_right_earring
@shus_right_earring Жыл бұрын
3:00 you can hear her begging (?) in the background after the time mark i think. not begging maybe, it sounds like an echo of the song, but in a more desprate way??
@DinaNicolee88
@DinaNicolee88 11 ай бұрын
Omg now you mentioned it! I do noticed it thank you
@user-oe5lt2bw2d
@user-oe5lt2bw2d 4 ай бұрын
変な教団のマークの再現度高くて好き
@Suzulive1
@Suzulive1 10 ай бұрын
1:35 急にリアルな描写になって不穏な空気流れるのこわすぎた
@カニ田カニ守
@カニ田カニ守 10 ай бұрын
「めっ!」の後に「ちゅっ!」が来てるの洗脳する気満々ですこ
@fascher_
@fascher_ 3 жыл бұрын
this seems like the type of mv that you look back on after her crime has been revealed, and go 'wow this is actually so messed up'
@IAmInsideYourWalls-wm9ek
@IAmInsideYourWalls-wm9ek 3 жыл бұрын
Im actually really interested how people will react to her crime, since she's a child it has the potential to be really divisive if the crime is severe enough.
@nilsfrayer
@nilsfrayer Жыл бұрын
oh yep. it looks like she killed gozake
@batrex_
@batrex_ Жыл бұрын
Coming from future to confirm this😊
@justanaverageperson2162
@justanaverageperson2162 8 ай бұрын
Confirmed
@雪奈色んな意味で豆腐メンタ
@雪奈色んな意味で豆腐メンタ Ай бұрын
この間、カラオケでこれあったから歌ったらMVが日常アニメのオープニングみたいな映像に差し替えられててびくった 違うんだよ、そんな明るいだけの曲じゃねえんだよ…
@Wolfusrodah
@Wolfusrodah 3 жыл бұрын
People forget you can be both a child actor/star AND a cultist. Actually has happened in japan before with Shimizu Fumika and happy Science. She dropped her acting career in 2017 when she was 22 to become fully invested in said cult but was already part of it as a child
@ふみつき-m8w
@ふみつき-m8w 3 жыл бұрын
今までみたいに、分かりやすく闇が垣間見えるMVじゃないから逆に怖い… アマネちゃんの可愛さもあって際立ってる感じがする…
@user-bn4xe9ss4q
@user-bn4xe9ss4q 3 жыл бұрын
1:35から不穏すぎる...可愛いんだけどなんか怖いというか...
@cockykhakis6265
@cockykhakis6265 Жыл бұрын
I really don't like how many of the comments are saying that she's guilty bc she... is clearly being manipulated and can't tell that what she's doing is wrong?? How is that. How does that make sense. In the video here, it's depicted as an accident, and that the worst aspect of it all is that she got in trouble. No one here has experienced the autistic child feeling of having done something wrong purely because of people's reactions and trying to avoid doing things that'll make them treat you like that again
@yokaze_sora
@yokaze_sora 7 ай бұрын
ラスサビ、よーくよーく聴いたら「もう、良い子になるしかない…!」と切羽詰まった声も混ざって聞こえるのやばい
@jl8417
@jl8417 Жыл бұрын
Purge March in a couple days, enjoy the time we have left with this soft, euphamised version of what happened to Amane because it looks like it's going to get rough.....
@SiSoz
@SiSoz Жыл бұрын
Your confirmations weren't wrong 😖
@Akari_Yuu
@Akari_Yuu 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I'd like to point out is how the entire video (minus the spotlight falling) is in Amane's fantasy world. We don't see her in the real world till the end. This could mean that she was so far deep into the religion/cult that she didn't view it as 'real' anymore. Since it very much resembles a children's tv show, it's likely that she views her life this way to cope with the abuse her family/other cult members give her. She's viewing it in a way to make it seem okay. The scene at the end is clearly much different than the rest of the video. She looks tired and defeated, probably due to the abuse. But since she doesn't know anything else, she views her life like the tv show and tries her best to be the good girl she's meant to be.
@hippomantube
@hippomantube Жыл бұрын
What is this Amane character from?
@username84476
@username84476 Жыл бұрын
​@@hippomantubedid you find out yet?
@hippomantube
@hippomantube Жыл бұрын
@@username84476 Not really. I think its a character from some multimedia project that may be an original creation of this song's creator?
@username84476
@username84476 Жыл бұрын
@@hippomantube Yea something like that. Strongly recommended
@kevin427
@kevin427 Жыл бұрын
@@hippomantube from the MILGRAM project
@ぴよ-b3l
@ぴよ-b3l 3 жыл бұрын
カズイさんと対比されるようであればアマネちゃんも家族関連の罪なのかね...(公開前考察)
@レレレ-w3d
@レレレ-w3d 3 жыл бұрын
ドラマCDだと、好きな食べ物は 野菜で鳥 豚 牛は 食べれないとのこと 後半にてミルグラムの正義と 「私達」の正義が一致するかもしれないと喜んでいた
@ブランシュ-l4b
@ブランシュ-l4b 3 жыл бұрын
最近ミルグラムにハマったばかりですが初めてリアルタイムでMV観れるのがめちゃめちゃ楽しみです♪
@fizzytastic6559
@fizzytastic6559 Жыл бұрын
something I think is really interesting is how childish both Amane and Haruka are. Amane makes sense obviously, since she's an actual child. comparatively, Amane's childish imagery is way more colorful. She's a magical girl living in a world of cartoon characters. Haruka has picture books and scribbles overlaying the real world. I don't have anything to say about what that implies, I just think it's neat!! anyways. I really don't see how an abused child could sincerely be "guilty" of her crime.... She's just a baby :(
@こずえ-v9k
@こずえ-v9k 11 ай бұрын
3:10 手当てしたネコいなくなってるね…😢
@soonami_official
@soonami_official 10 ай бұрын
1:49 2:00 リヨネの耳絆創膏なのに、、怪我処置が祈りなのが意味深 粛清マーチと比べたら怪我した猫が消えてることに 1:25 から3:13 最初犬2匹猫2匹が今犬2匹猫1匹になってる。猫1匹消えた
@hiruko03
@hiruko03 3 жыл бұрын
どうなんだろうね、単純にMVや歌詞だけ見れば 宗教団体(家族)の中に居た。 ↓ その宗教には怪我や病気をしても祈れば治るので、絶対に治療をしたり病院へ行ったりするなという謎ルールがあった。 ↓ 友人(又はペット)が大怪我をし、それを治療してしまった事でルールを破ってしまった。 ↓ 宗教団体はルールを破ったアマネを拷問し、結果殺してしまった。 ↓ 「ルールを破った事で自分を殺してしまった」 と考えられるけど、後半拷問後に羽が生えたシーンを"死んだ"のでは無く"狂信者爆誕"のシーンだと捉えると 拷問後、アマネは心を入れ替えてしまい完全な信者になる。 ↓ 宗教の教え通り誰がどんなに酷い怪我や病気をしても治療したり病院へ連れて行ったりせず、ただ祈るのみ。 ↓ 結果「多くの者を見殺しにしてしまった」 とも考えられる。 最後のシーンの虚ろな眼差しは前者なら死体、後者なら廃人となったアマネの物じゃないかな?と思っています。完全に個人の考察ですが、良ければ参考にどうぞ。 【追記】 同シリーズを見直した所アンダーカバーの最後の囚人達が相手を殺害した方法が再現されるシーンで、アマネは棒のような物を手に撲殺するようなポーズをとっている事に気付きました。 これにより自説前者のアマネ自身が死んだ可能性は低いと考え、後者の説をベースに考察を進める事にします。 殺害方法が撲殺という事は違反者を制裁する側に回ったアマネが拷問中誰かを殺してしまったのでしょうか? それともMV中治療した猫(友人?親族?)はその後見殺しにされたのでは無く、上からの命令若しくは狂信者となったアマネの判断で殴り殺してしまったという事なんでしょうか? ………この可能性は低いですが、宗教団体の異常な思想に耐え切れなくなり我に返ったアマネが叛逆を起こし、教祖を殴り殺してしまった…なんて展開だったら、ちょっと胸アツですね。
@佐々木-t8b
@佐々木-t8b 11 ай бұрын
歌い方で「良い子になるしかないですよ!」って感じになってるけど歌詞は「良い子になるしかない!ですよ」って、とってつけた敬語みたいな…なんて言うか、闇深いなぁ
@ten_poyo_
@ten_poyo_ 3 жыл бұрын
コメにも多い通り比較的わかりやすい「宗教家庭での洗脳からしてしまった殺人」て図だと思うんだけど、それを赦すか否かが問題だよね。本人は悪くないって考え方もあるし、洗脳を解く意味でも赦さないって考え方もある。
@user-ne5et8lv6x
@user-ne5et8lv6x Ай бұрын
アマネちゃんが倒れた時は「立ち上がらせてた」けど ネコが倒れた時アマネちゃんは「手当」をしてた そして其れを見たガチャタ達は『オシオキ』をしていた まるで子供の選択が自分が教えた通りにならず手をあげる親のように
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