The Dark Side of Health & Fitness: Breaking The Obsession Cycle | Mind Pump 2311

[@angelahester24]

I stumbled on this podcast while searching on KZbin. I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised by these guys. I am an overweight 30-something year-old female and I have struggled with sticking to a weight loss program for pretty much my entire adult life. On first glance, you assume that these guys are a bunch of “meat heads” but when you actually listen to the podcast, you hear how truly insightful they are. They give great information and facts without belittling people. That’s a win for me.

[@gabriellerose4253]

Thank you for teaching me about Orthorexia. It has helped validate my experiences over the years, and I am now working on taking my control back, so that I am less controlling in a dysfunctional way and learn a healthy sense of control that allows me to embrace food choices instead of restricting them. Last year I was participating in a fitness challenge that I told myself was more for me and if I were to win, that would just be an added bonus to improving my health. But then I found myself feeling like I was disappointing myself. One day I broke down and cried while looking at a restaurant menu's nutrition info, feeling like I couldn't even go out to dinner with my boyfriend because I'd surpass my macros and would be cheating my goals. I feel I have come so far after coming to terms with falling into an unhealthy mentality about competing in this challenge and proving something to myself, to the fitness community, to my partner, etc. Mind Pump has enlightened me about my approach and so many other aspects of health and fitness.

[@Fire_Moon_Tarot]

The lady who called in and mentioned her son who passed brought me to tears because my brother passed away last year and he too was a personal trainer after over coming addiction. When I listen to you guys it reminds me of him sometimes and when he’s make me stop at his club after school and I’d hang out with the trainers in the break room and do my homework. Great memories for me

[@yvettebennett6170]

So sorry for your loss. May your memories of him make you smile and not sad. 🙏

[@ryandeffley7652]

It's definitely true that working out can become an obsession and your entire identity. I've found this to be even more true with age, wanting to push harder to hold onto youth. It's been a lifelong struggle for me to find balance with it because I've been into training and athletic performance since I was 15. Now, at 43, I've had to abandon regular conditioning modalities, scale back intensity, and focus more on longevity and health. It's tough to let an athletic mindset go.

[@michaelstone9701]

I have heard Peter Attia and a couple of others say that sometimes the best strategy for this mindset is to focus on a new goal: becoming the most buttkicking 80 year old possible. It taps into that competitive spirit, but helps the individual figure out that their actions now need to have a long-term payout, which includes optimizing the various stresses on the body (maximizing the signal to preserve or increase strength and fitness, while minimizing wear and tear on joints, for example).

[@andylopez80]

Thanks!

[@kamaye_alethia]

lol guys, Shaggy IS Jamaican. He moved to the US when he was young and therefore assimilated to the American accent

[@carly7755]

Thank you for this video. I am currently struggling with this very concept of feeling left out/getting anxiety whenever I don’t workout so this discussion is helping me realize the importance of focusing on what my goal with fitness truly is!

[@omni1562]

Thank you for the timestamps! I'm here to listen to the tips and the questions 🙂

[@katie405]

Fitness can become an idol.

[@Booktube2025]

So true

[@kyle.plattner]

It's like you were talking directly to me. I'm 100% guilty of being obsessive about workouts to the point that it's counter to my health goals. Mind Pump has a way of always giving me the help and encouragement I need to keep getting better! Thank you for putting out episodes like this. No other podcast can challenge me, inspire me, and even entertain me, quite like Mind Pump. You guys are the best! Keep it up!

[@brigittbreeden3036]

Love this episode. Hits so close to home on so many things! Thank you for all the information and keeping me entertained while I work!

[@ryanluce9864]

Huge fan of this pod.. I became a dad about 2 months after Sal had his second son and to hear you guys talk about parenting and wanting to be better dads and have that be your legacy over personal achievement really hit me and made me think. I think this is the most well rounded healthy pod cast and you guys have helped me change my perspective on working out and staying fit it is still important to me but I'm flexible about when I do it. It does not come first all the time and has benefited me being a better dad and husband. I am so grateful for everything you guys provide. Plus I sucked at programming but thanks to MAP programs I don't have to worry. I wish you guys nothing but the best and to Adam the guy that gave you shit I agree f**k that guy!

[@MindPumpAdam]

😂 my guy

[@FernTheBull]

As a new dad I love that I get fitness knowledge and learn on how I can be a better father down the line all in one 🖤 With the conspiracies being the cherry on top👽

[@jenniferjennings2398]

This podcast though! You guys are helping so many people including myself wade through the insane amount of confusing and conflicting information out there. I applaud and thank you for that! My name is Jen I’m 43 years old, have been somewhat fit most of my life including athletics when I was young. Did years of 15 minute KZbin videos and hit workouts with light dumbbells and that served me ok during those years. They are no longer getting me results. I think it’s from years of fasting in an attempt to heal my gut, I’ve always suffered with bloating. I tried carnivore for a few months felt great and have come off of that as I cannot sustain it. My gut still feels good but I’ve gained 12 lbs that I can’t seem to get rid of. Perimenopause may also be a factor. I am working my way through the RPG bundle (finished anabolic and halfway through performance) but noticing one sided weakness and pain here and there from injuries sustained over the years. Should I switch over to symmetry and correct the problem before moving on? Also I’m eating about 2000 cal a day and finding it very difficult to eat more than that with as much protein as I am eating (130g). Do you have any tips or advice on getting in extra calories to try to correct my metabolism so I can eventually go on a cut? I should mention I am getting stronger and pretty sure I’m putting on muscle and have gained another 5 lbs since starting your programs. I actually weighed the other day and was shocked the scale went up because by looking at my body I thought I had lost weight. Thank you for considering my question and keep up all you do!

[@MattRusso-p7g]

Always a great show gentlemen, keep informing the world on fitness, family life and healthy lifestyle.

[@garywheelerfitness]

I am really enjoying your content recently. I've been trying to listen to one or two episodes a day while working. I appreciate your content, and it helps me as a lifelong seeker with a growth mindset.

[@rebekahbrittain7150]

My husband is in law enforcement and rarely do they arrest someone after they do a raid. The exception being if a child or someone is found to be in immediate harm or danger. It takes so long to process all of the evidence, for everyone to write the reports and to obtain and arrest warrant from the DAs office/judge. Once charges are brought then they get arrested at a later date or sometimes not until they’re convicted.

[@Blueyes_silverfox]

On point as always. That is such a hard conversation to have with someone if their training has become and obsession. Especially if you struggle with your own limits and/or overtraining. Your perspectives are always appreciated, I took notes for the next time I have this talk with someone.... even if it is the man in the mirror

[@TH-il8mn]

I truly heard Adam when he was having his talk with his son. When my daughter gets mad that she has to work harder at things than other people, I remind her we don't come from weak stock. I recall for her how all our ancestors came to this country as immigrants and hard work pays off. I tell her no one can do anything with talent that won't work.

[@MindPumpAdam]

Love that

[@sonyaabadeer4990]

Valuable info - great point about going back to your “why”

[@FitnesswithTara]

This is so relatable. When I take time off from working out I get so restless and irritable . Thanks for sharing.

[@VaniaBras-ow8rr]

Love this episode! This is so relatable!

[@lisamariehubbard5941]

Love ❤ this my favorite content Mind pump changed my life too in many ways never understood how to eat THANK YOU for making me understand

[@JosephEGlaser]

very true...this happens and can cause significant damage similar to (and sometimes along with) eating disorders.

[@Bob-sk7ci]

Very important message shared today on the podcast which more people should definitely be aware of. Thanks for sharing MindPump Gang! Keep the good stuff coming!

[@julieryan4812]

Lovely when you get asked a question that i need the answer to. I'm doing anabolic at the moment and was wondering what to do next. I was wavering between symmetry or 40+, i now have my answer.

[@barsquad4444]

Love this channel! I’m 49. I was in super shape then the pandemic happened. Stop working out learned how to cook/grill. Got back into the gym about 3 months ago but I don’t have the will power I used too. I work out but been eating like sh*t. I watch these videos get motivated but just end up eating crap. Love the channel!!!!! I’m sure some day I will wake up literally & get on my sh*t!!!

[@2ndstreetmarvel]

💪🏿Adam, I hope you read this comment and it triggers you all day, IM KIDDING!💪🏿 That story about your son on Easter is what good parenting is all about. I have 3 kids myself, and I’ve found that the easiest way to be a good parent to your kids, is to remember what it’s like to be a kid. That don’t mean you give them everything, or spoil them, just that you understand their mindset/perspective as you did. Great stuff!💪🏿

[@morgancandler498]

keep it coming....always look at things from multiple directions

[@cladgreenhero5576]

I take a week, sometimes two weeks off between each MAPS program. This gives me a chance to recalibrate before switching gears and I’ve really enjoyed doing it this way!

[@cladgreenhero5576]

@@ronmexico79 To fill the time you mean? I’ll still do light activity, just as I feel. I like disc golf or going on hikes, or I’ll pick up a new hobby, whatever calls to me really

[@LindaBallard-c5o]

Absolutely LOVE your podcast and all ya’all!! THANK YOU ❤

[@josephregel1]

Thanks for another great show. Appreciate the books you guys recommend. Always good reads.

[@debdroessler5199]

You guys are so easy to relate to with awesome information!!

[@nicolehalverson5225]

Oh I so hope this will help me!! I dream in this mode!

[@HippityHopity]

Another great podcast. I’m your typical yoga girl who did multiple yoga, Pilates and barre classes daily just to feed my 2000 calorie a day diet. I now lift heavy weights 3-4 times a week and only do yoga as a restorative once a week. Eating 2200-2400 calories and finally building some much needed muscle thanks to you four 🙏🏼

[@StephanieHolwill]

🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️you guys have been so helpful to me. I have learned to take a more sustainable approach to working out without obsessing about diet, for the first time in my life I’ve been able to maintain my weight for a year by focusing on health rather than frantically dieting and exercising ineffectively. Thank you so much. What you do, works!

[@amandabousheley3189]

My biggest struggle. I have only weighed in 3 times this month. I'm usually an every day, every morning, religious weigher. I weigh my food, track my calories, and obsess. Thanks to your episode about getting in shape for summer and my complete trust in you, I've taken myself off the scale and am actively working on whole health... while still getting shredded haha

[@markgarland4532]

I take a de-load week every 6-8 weeks to try to stay injury free. A de-load can be light training or rest. I typically just take a break for the entire week for rest.

[@shivvashishthabhargava4600]

THANK you for all that you do! A fan since 2020!

[@katrinaml89]

When my sons (ages 14, 4, 2 and 2.5 months) act up and give me attitude I always remind them, "you're allowed to be mad, you're nor allowed to be rude". Mainly the 14 and 4 year old need that reminder. And me too lol

[@buffNelly1989]

It’s crazy that you all made this episode NOW…😂 it’s like you are speaking to me. My home flooded a week and a half ago and I just got back into the gym Monday after being out for a week. I felt horrible mentally and was just plain angry. But I guess some may have to do with my home being flooded and having to live in a hotel with 4 kids lol but I definitely felt stronger on Monday in the gym. The break was worth it after all … just need to figure out how to keep my mental health in check if I have to take a break.

[@EdnaGarciamylife]

This episode hit me deep in my soul lol 😅 I needed to hear it thank you for always give such valuable knowledge and depth along with personal experience! ❤

[@AdamFinancial]

Grateful for the podcast and for the content! Made huge strength gains the last 6 months after listening to you guys, keep it up! 👏🏼

[@jolarocknrolla6015]

So as a "type A" personality that has gone too hard and burned out and stopped time and time again it's been really helpful to me to actually schedule rest and relaxation. It feels silly like AGGRESSIVELY relaxing (i said Type A and i meant it, lol) but it truly helps to just say this is what i'm supposed to be doing, a sort of Active Rest if that makes sense. I don't naturally make space for rest so i have to really be firm with myself about it.

[@leannebahuaudbradley569]

It’s so true that we tend to become obsessive about our workouts. I used to sacrifice sleep to get up early to get it in on busy/ high stress days. Not I’ve learned the power of sleep to recover and balance that stress. And I need to check my moods. I’ve learned to let go of daily workouts, but I still get edgy if I miss a planned day. That’s a sign my obsession is still there under the surface. On another note- I had a tapeworm in my 20s. I was having gut issues for months, and only figured it out when I pooped out a segment of it 😅

[@jenniferfulljames1685]

I had 9 parasites, was eating raw fish 3x per week at our local sushi place near my work. I was blacking out at the gym, losing weight rapidly, and could feel my body being taken over. I met a healer who did frequency zapping over 3 months and it saved my life. That was 15 years ago and I do not eat raw meat or seafood to this day. She told me "O" blood type people are the only people that can tolerate eating raw. I was a huge skeptic but no longer!

[@jackieharrington-3884]

So I have a similar issue as the last woman you helped with her issue with her sciatic nerve. My problem is that I am not able to cross my legs and haven't been able to for years. For a long time I would get a pain, that feels like it is in the tendon of my left leg right at the crotch area and sometimes it would get 'stuck' when sitting and I could feel it sort of 'snap' when I would stand and try to work. My doctor couldn't figure it out and I tried physical therapy and they really couldn't find 'the sweet spot' to hit the problem area. I started doing the 90/90 stretch and combat stretch (to help with my squat depth) but it does hit that area a little bit so I'm willing to try anything. I also have osteoarthritis in my knees which doesn't help when trying to do some of these stretches. I have been back to working out consistently 5-6 days a week since early January ( I used to work out religiously in my 20's lifting heavy - I maxed my bench press at 175lbs at 9 months pregnant, of course I was 19 so that helped, lol...) I've always loved working out and being strong and my new favorite workout shirt says it all about me... I DON'T WANT TO LOOK SKINNY, I WANT TO LOOK LIKE I CAN KICK YOUR ASS!

[@Aleesha817]

Thank you for all your information! My husband and I are just getting into weight training, we are both in our 40’s and I was thinking of purchasing a maps program. What would be best to start with maps starter or maps fabulous 40’s.

[@eszterbarcsanics1845]

🎉❤Awesome that you guys are getting into it in your 40s! It's never too late & it's great that you are both on board with embarking on your fitness journey! 🎉❤

[@tonystonebraker]

Great video. Down 160lbs myself. Whoop whoop.

[@chezzanna]

I am in a FB group where there are many in prep for stage. Some of those ladies coaches have them on 800 calories and 1-2 hours cardio per day. Those girls often take a binge day against their coaches and reach out for Members help. I just couldn’t do the 800 calories or that much cardio.

[@Booktube2025]

I really appreciate Mind Pump's show for its valuable insights into fitness and nutrition. It has helped me understand the importance of breaking unhealthy obsessions in these areas and finding a balanced approach to wellness. It's definitely worth tuning in for anyone looking to make informed choices for a healthier lifestyle.❤

[@mihapirnar8915]

I think this gym junkie guy might be me. You guys rock. Thank you for sharing great informations with the world.

[@voltairee3012]

Suppressors are great. Doug is smart to get one. Especially for hearing. I have 3 and worked in the industry. And they're not Hollywood quiet unless you run sub sonic ammo. As far as Doug getting back pressure gas with the ar15. He needs to play with buffer weight. And it'll get better.

[@youssefmalek4265]

Thanks for all these informations

[@irisk934]

I'm laughing that Adam doesn't even know who Christopher Cross or what Yacht Rock is😂😂

[@AB-lb4zv]

Justin : “ ITCHY “🗣️ 😂😂😂 Doug wick and the coriolis effect !

[@MindPumpShow]

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[@AB-lb4zv]

@@MindPumpShow much love . Appreciate you guys ! Just sent the email over

[@survival_fitness8220]

Would y'all consider most physique competitors to have an obsessive dysfunction related to fitness? Is there any way to be a competitor healthily?

[@MindPumpAdam]

I believe I did

[@SMullener]

Ugh! It’s like you just called me out on my own b.s. The struggle is real along with the justifications and rationale. 😔

[@rebekahbrittain7150]

P Diddy isn’t in custody. The raid was for criminal investigations across multiple jurisdictions, but no indictment has been brought yet.

[@rockyhunter617]

There is a charging handles that eliminate gas blowback Doug. Also make sure to keep it clean. Glad you’re into the sport.

[@soubanhsoukhome7039]

The obsession comes from the "No pain, no gain" playbook. I'm 54, and i grew up with that belief, but i knew enough that that is a bad journey to be on. So, i follow my intuition and exercise to live, not live to exercise!

[@brittanybaker3630]

@Sal my 8 year old literal just passed an 8 inch roundworm in a bowel movement and after taking those meds had another one come out his nose. It was seriously traumatic for him. This followed on the end of 6 months of fevers and stomach issues and being constantly told it was just a virus going around.

[@808nats]

Adam likes the “round” silencer cuz it matches his face. LOL. Just Kidding 😊

[@romankoller7150]

I wonder why Sal didn’t do the parasite testing and parasite protocol through Cabral’s team?

[@bamos803]

It's hard for me to take a day off from working out. If I don't go l feel so guilty. Now Im forced to take a day off for a achy back. For going way overboard with my workouts

[@bobomomo3764]

I was like that until I wok up one day and can't lift my hands ( shoulder injury ) without any symptoms beforehand. Overtraining causes injuries sooner or later.

[@bamos803]

@@bobomomo3764 yeah man my knees are aching. And my back is too, I been going for like 3 weeks straight. Doing all heavy lifting and pushing thru soreness. I got to chill out

[@bobomomo3764]

@bamos8729 You need a de-load week to heal and charge the CNS, where you reduce the total volume 50% at least. You will bounce back way better and stronger for sure. De-loading every 2-3 months is key. You won't lose any muscle size as many studies shown (the minimum maintenance volume is 30%, meaning you would still keep all muscle size even if you reduce volume to 30%) Are you following the bro split? (one muscle group only each day)

[@bamos803]

@@bobomomo3764 yeah I'm going to do that. Thanks for the tips and pointers

[@anthonysullo7041]

Can I get the MAPS program that tells me to not go to the gym 7 days a week?

[@MindPumpShow]

None of the MAPS Programs are 7 days/ week lol

[@yvettebennett6170]

Soylent Green came to mind when you all were talking about cubes of foodnfor fuel. 😳

[@Erikhmoreno]

Justin continues to prove he is the funniest

[@AngCJ-18444]

@nextLevelSoul this made me think of the movie the Laberinth where Sarah tells the goblin king "you have no power over me" and breaks the reality SHE has created. Its all within our power

[@mpac418]

Here first.... lol... Doug shooting guns and with suppressors. Thats why I am Dougs nunber one fan. 😅😅😅

[@Lulugirl1967]

Adam try using castor oil on your face at night. I started using it and my friends have noticed my face looking slimmer and it makes your skin really soft too!

[@julieheadings6729]

I suddenly feel old. My Gen X self is cringing that you don't know Christopher Cross and yacht rock.

[@debbiethomason7150]

Why are we not talking about PARASITES!?!?! Pin worms are everywhere and they reek havoc on your body! Our 3 year old has them (from preschool/daycare), so my whole family has been treating ourselves. They're SO COMMON!!! 🤮🤮🤮

[@JamesEast-iy3ov]

Blow Back in a suppressed AR is common. The AK isn't as bad.

[@Pun28s]

Honest question, what if your Why is to be fuckin jacked year round ?

[@jacoblogmet]

Boom

[@jhildebrand7447]

This is the opposite swing of the pendulum: the unhealthy lifestyle of not being able to even work out for one day.

[@paulzangari1209]

Lets get Ethan Suplee on the show!!!

[@OctoberOmicron]

First thing that crossed my mind when I saw him in the intro.

[@anitamcentofanti3277]

When you say ck level, are you talking about creatine kinase?

[@barsquad4444]

👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@JamesEast-iy3ov]

Actually, you hear the gunshot, then the bullet hits you if its far enough away.

[@ReeseDaBeast808Tyga]

Sal described me eggzachary 2 a t😂😂😂😂12 yrs ago of course😜🤪I eased up planny since I took it to the extreme that I almost died from it😫😬 And of course it was all purely for aesthetic goals/reasons😳yea maybe sum health desires butt majority of y I was like this was aesthetics😣😓

[@tedbryan9606]

FYI Shaggy is Jamaican🇯🇲

[@raoulhayes196]

Sal looks like Macklemore lmO

[@zackkeswick6370]

Sean Paul not shaggy

[@IgorMikeshin]

So basically, lift to live but don't live to lift

[@delovely1577]

Neeeever though id see sukihana on mind pump. Doesnt feel right

[@Mercury688]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo