Mini LED TV vs Regular: Why Smaller is Better!

We compare the sizes of Mini LEDs vs regular LEDs to demonstrate why Mini LED TVs (such as the TCL C845) can achieve better picture quality.
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[@fillezzo]

Can't wait for Micro LED. It will be better than OLED

[@NineTails87]

Yes, all the benefits of OLED with no worry of burn in.

[@SwagDuhBuh]

Not true side by side OLED still is better 🤷‍♂️ ive compared the qn90c to the s95c and oled still provides a better image

[@SnaJKirE]

@@SwagDuhBuh They are discussing micro LED, not mini LED. Completely different kind of tech.

[@fillezzo]

@@SwagDuhBuh I'm talking about Micro LED not QLED VS OLED.

[@bigcdub]

But at a way higher cost, limited pixel size, limited placement accuracy, and the need for cooling to prevent the display from warping and breaking due to thermal mismatch between the LEDs and the silicon. Additionally, current MicroLED displays are less efficient than comparable OLED displays…

[@kena4977]

I love how you can almost make out an image on the Mini LED with just the backlight

[@ssr_thanos781]

thats how black and white tv used to work😂

[@Valdaemonium]

Exactly! It's literally a picture made by light (white) and lights off ("black"). Something closer to "greyscale" of old CRT panels.

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Miniled is awesome. I experienced miniled with my TCL R635 and I really see the benefits of the technology.

[@Valdaemonium]

mini-LED (and the manufacturers capacity of making them even smaller) is the future for LCD panels. I hope mini-LED comes to IPS smartphone someday, to compete to OLEDs

[@vasilisgreen]

the only thing that can compete with oled is microLED.

[@Valdaemonium]

@@vasilisgreen🤡 ikr, but micro-LED is in another level, and is related to a whole new other matter. In this video, and in my reply, the point is ONLY about Liquid Crystal based technology and its evolving and enhancements/improvements, to get closer the OLED the possible****

[@robertobokarev439]

Can't wait for Micro LED being available for consumer market in 2136

[@steveswm7742]

Rear projection CRT is still far superior. Especially when it comes to clarity, brightness, and contrast ratio.

[@ismiismael]

they have dim and washed picture

[@LazyCrazyGuy]

You are insane. The best LCD TV's on the market can't be beat. Sony 85X95L and Hisense UX. The best OLED'S can't be beat either, Sony A95L, Samsung S95C and LG G3. The best overall TV is the 85X95L but the best movie theater TV is the 77A95L.

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

This an excellent comparison! Well done!

[@MajorTendonitis]

I’m holding out for brain transfer technology, none of that pesky holding my eyes open 😂

[@USA92]

Can't wait for the super mini led. Sure to take over the mini led but yeah gonna be beat by the next tech, the atomic led.

[@LazyCrazyGuy]

I know you're being sarcastic but next up is MicroLED and it's coming very soon. Although this is very different technology because the MicroLED will actually be the picture and color. No more LCD panel needed.

[@indian-tech-support]

@@LazyCrazyGuy maybe in 10 to 20 years.

[@LazyCrazyGuy]

@@indian-tech-support are you living under a rock. Samsung already has a consumer production model that sells for $100,000 for an 89 inch. It'll be ready for high end mainstream consumer production in 3 - 5 years.

[@indian-tech-support]

@@LazyCrazyGuy let me just manage to get my 100,000 out from my arse. it's going to take a while for it to come to a reasonable price

[@LazyCrazyGuy]

@@indian-tech-support since you're too slow to understand. There will be a mainstream model that'll cost $10,000 in about 3 years. In 5 years they will most likely be $6,000 for a similar size. That's not a very long time. No one is telling you to go buy the $100,000 version Samsung released this year.

[@voyteq1]

Great explanation! Awsome.

[@thomasmittelwerk410]

Burning LEDs are already a problem on regular LED TV sets, I can't imagine how hard repairing those things will be when the LEDs start burning (wait a minute: they want you to buy a new TV set instead of repairing, right?)

[@TheKilobytes]

Bro mini led wont have problem with screen burn or led burn but oled and led wtv will get screen burn so dont go for oled if

[@thomasmittelwerk410]

@@TheKilobytes the first LED-backlit TVs didn't have problems either, but then tv manufacturers began their race-to-the-bottom and that ended up becoming a common occurrence because, once their brands were consolidated, they started cheapening out on manufacturing.

[@TheKilobytes]

@@thomasmittelwerk410mm ya this is true but nowadays we are looking for a slim tv which means the have to decrease the scale of mobo and make it powerful to which brings issues and heat is the 2nd one

[@thomasmittelwerk410]

@@TheKilobytes in other words, they know what's going on, and still release TVs that will show some problem with LEDs that stop working after one or two years. Planned obsolescence, thy name is modern TV industry.

[@TheKilobytes]

@@thomasmittelwerk410 mm ya everything is like that I had a Rog laptop I thought it would lost long but within an year I replaced my mobo twice and after 2.5 years it got the same mobo problem but now I can't repair it due to the price they ask

[@ydid687]

ahh yes this means micro (radial) length would be even better, right?

[@raychii7361]

Nice. So why it's nearly the same price of a OLED?

[@edgyjorgensen3286]

Curious how these will hold up. Just had backlight failure on a Samsung Q965FN after only 6 years. 😢

[@tecnogadgethd]

Is there a review of C845 coming soon ? Cheers.

[@challchull3000]

mini LED = B/W screen for LCD backlight

[@unknownwolf8555]

I'm having issues with my Vizio 40inch tv I see yellow spots on certain words or dead pixel

[@Legend-sl9bn]

which one will last the longest

[@loki76]

I thought some of these new MiniLED TVs has 10,000 MiniLEDs. That would make them much smaller than that example, right?

[@antarticp7477]

yeah you going to far lol if there is one with that many its prob the 100 inch u8k

[@kroks06]

there's still room for more led, more nits ! but as always they will milk this for years, increasing every year the number of led... watts consumption is a problem tho (and cooling noise)

[@noeneonmusic]

Can you show the difference between OLED and QLED

[@RicardoSantos-hw8io]

QLED não significa nada e apenas a forma da samsung nomear uma tv normal sem nem um tipo de tecnologia Mini led é a única tecnologia que chega próximo do oled

[@terellkid1]

Technically both of those TVs are mini-led if the tv with less leds also has dimming zones. The other one just has more leds and likely more zones. Right?

[@robertlawrence9000]

Still not enough mini LEDs by a long shot. There should be at least 10 times more

[@tecnogadgethd]

You are plain wrong. QM8, C835, C935 & C845 get inky blacks without need of x10 the amount like you said.

[@robertlawrence9000]

@@tecnogadgethd they don't pass the star test

[@tecnogadgethd]

@@robertlawrence9000 So you buy a TV just to watch demos for hours ? Do you watch Starfield the whole afternoon? Cmon bro. Get a little bit realistic. If a mini led tv gets 95% of the way an OLED is, nobody will care if in just one scene of the movie the contrast doesn’t reach that high. It doesn’t justify the cost of adding x10 mode diodes or zones. Well implemented Local Dimming nowadays achieves a level of performance that makes the cut for most situations and scenes.

[@robertlawrence9000]

@@tecnogadgethd No I buy a tv for quality and usability. A demo is a real world example of performance and I want the best experience. Might as well get a static backlight model. I can stand a little less black to get better individual pixel detail.

[@budthecyborg4575]

It actually has nothing to do with size and everything to do with price. There is plenty of room to fit 10,000 full size LEDs on a regular TV, but at $1/zone you'd be spending $10K on just the backlight. Mini LED is much more efficient to manufacture and makes thousands of zones affordable.

[@cup_and_cone]

$1/zone is a bit of an exaggeration, considering the PCBs are already mounted on the back panel regardless of zone density. TCL's cost is probably $0.009 per LED. It's really in the controller processing that the extra materials cost is, but still nowhere near $10k. The real reason is time and labor...a pick n place machine doing 20 SMDs per backlight PCB vs 500 SMDs...that's 25 times slower. That's also more labor in assembly, more PCBs, more time getting the reflective mat aligned, etc.

[@budthecyborg4575]

@@cup_and_cone Using 2.5mm LEDs you can support a FALD resolution of up to approximately 100,000 zones on a 55" display. At current zone count below 10,000 zones, Mini LED provides no benefits to assembly. The most logical reason for the adoption of Mini LED over larger LEDs is the material cost of the LED itself. The price incentive to abandon large LED and move toward Mini LED would only be increased if Mini LEDs as a commodity are produced in greater quantity, at which point basic Economy of Scale could even outweigh the benefits of the material cost savings. Heck at the quantities being ordered they'll even save some margin on shipping costs with Mini LED, but the assembly process of the TV is going to be the last thing that benefits from using smaller LEDs.

[@williampaskewitz5383]

Mini led seems darker

[@MrBesmir7]

Yes what we are looking for more dark... bright mini led are superior😊😊😊

[@cup_and_cone]

Will you be getting the new TCL QM8 in for review? I am about ready to pull the trigger and order one, but want to know if there's anything I should be aware of first...

[@bigcdub]

Yes, the 8-Bit panel…

[@tecnogadgethd]

No, he is European, therefore he will only review the most equivalent model C845.

[@cup_and_cone]

@@tecnogadgethd Yes, obviously whatever the 8-series equivalent is.

[@nejihiashi]

There is huge space veyween each LED that can be filled with more led i think it make the tv have better picture quality

[@tristankordek]

👍😎

[@majorskies7091]

And then you have Samsung and LG making EDGE LIT TVs for their midrange TVs this is why I prefer Philips and Sony making direct lit tvs.

[@shadowbotz4293]

Still plenty of room for double the LED’s in the mini. Possibly the new Sony 2024 mini LED’s will incorporate many more.

[@commendatore2516]

mini has more bulbs, isnt that true that how more parts you have the more parts can break....?

[@MrBesmir7]

No each led work independently. If one burns others work....regular tv led are in series and one burn all turn off....of course contrast quality bright is super in mini led

[@commendatore2516]

@@MrBesmir7 thanks for the explenation

[@N0N0111]

But?

[@sodaboy581]

Haha, he perfect looped it.

[@pidoztech9088]

oled at the top

[@gamermakerhunter5449]

Maybe in future will be nano led tv

[@nicolobizzini5918]

Toshiba Regza?

[@Ag89q43G0HyA]

still dont know why they dont make simple 1080p miniled monitors, there are a lot of solid state led with a ton of nits, more than 1000 nits on each diode, you can find them in your bicycle lights, they do heat up but is not like we are in the 300 before christ to not manage a cooling system with some silent fans.

[@bliglum]

'Mini LED' is what I thought "Full Array Local Dimming" was... Until I saw a FALD LED LCD set... With it's HUGE blocky zones of brightness... UGLY... So finally, TRUE FALD has arrived... But I still prefer OLED.

[@scissortongue5772]

Still nothing on an OLED

[@bigcdub]

An Oled is self emitting, doesn’t use backlight…

[@scissortongue5772]

@@bigcdub exactly

[@ToTouchAnEmu]

Except for higher peak brightness and no risk of burn in. (I say this an an owner of both WOLED and QDOLED tvs.)

[@bigcdub]

@@ToTouchAnEmu Except Oled has way better contrast, better viewing angles, deeper blacks, no blooming, and I own the A95K, S95C, S95B, and LGC1 48", and have 0 burn-In...

[@R6ex]

LED way cheaper than OLED, plus no burn-in worries.

[@giovanni4151]

Was it so hard?

[@DragonboltBlastter]

Tbis is why ''Direct LED'' sucks.. Rather have a LCD with CCFL

[@RickLaBanca]

Still one of those marketing names that deceives! If they ever develop led displays (non organic) what they gonna call em?

[@Hi-levels]

5000 mini leds will be enough for 4K 65 inch tvs...

[@wile123456]

they really cant get the LED's more dense than that?

[@mikemcintosh295]

$$$

[@cup_and_cone]

Yes, but scalability... It will take time. TCL is already over 2,000 zones on their new mini LEDs.

[@guillermoguillermo4368]

This is why at some point you ditch these gimmicky bloomy paperweights and get OLED.

[@cup_and_cone]

@@guillermoguillermo4368 OLED is just the imperfect solution and stopgap until we hit perfection and nirvana with microLED.

[@DM-rc4yu]

@@guillermoguillermo4368 A fragile tech that you need to babysit and which dims the picture to not burn out. It's a stopgap solution at best.

[@jackserna3440]

SMDs are not more advanced,TVs should have simply started with mini LED then go into real advanced tech

[@guily6669]

That's not what she said... 😁

[@skemmy215]

Good luck when it breaks

[@SPbTatarin]

Anyway it can't help tcl😂

[@delirahlh9876]

Now qd oled tvs reaching 2000nits , this efforts to continue improving mini and micro led tvs are no sense anymore since prices are not competitive , better focus all effort to improve qd oleds

[@sghanekar22]

Tcl not giving any service.. there no point to buy this TV from here... From last 6 days they don't even install my TV.. and Amazon claiming 1 day installation.. 😂 they don't even bother about customer service.