The truth about double-dipping

Double-dipping might seem gross, but what does the science actually say about it?
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰 𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘁𝘆-𝗴𝗿𝗶𝘁𝘁𝘆:
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-Dawson P, Han I, Lynn D, Lackey J, Baker J, Martinez-Dawson R (2017). Bacterial transfer associated with blowing out candles on a birthday cake. Journal of Food Research 6(4). doi.org/10.553...
-Dawson P (2020). Person to person transfer of bacteria through food. Medical Research Archives 8(5). esmed.org/MRA/...
-Micik RE, Miller RL, Mazzarella MA, Ryge G (1969). Studies on Dental Aerobiology: I. Bacterial Aerosols Generated during Dental Procedures. Journal of Dental Research, 48(1) 49-56. doi.org/10.117...
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-Trevino J, Ballieu B, Rachel Y, Danna S, Harris G, Dejonckheere J, Dimitroff D, Philips M, Han I, Moore C, and Dawson P (2009). Effect of biting before dipping (double-dipping) chips on the bacterial population of the dipping solution. Journal of Food Safety 29 (1) 37-48. doi.org/10.111...
𝗚𝗼𝗼𝗱 (𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗯𝗹𝗲) 𝗿𝗲𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲𝘀:
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𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗲𝗿-𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗽𝗳𝘂𝗹 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘁𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗺𝘂𝗻𝗶𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗺𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗼𝗽𝗶𝗰:
-Dr. Paul Dawson, Professor in the Food, Nutrition, and Packaging Sciences Department at Clemson University
- Dr. Donald Schaffner, Distinguished Professor and Chair of the Department of Food Science at Rutgers University
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[@user-rm2qj2jh4l]

Exactly!! Who says nerdy has to be boring or that fun can't be rigorous and well-researched? The perfect combination! :)

[@hurgcat]

😅😊

[@russellmz]

nice to see evan kelmp finally got a phone with a screen

[@alto7183]

Good video, por eso comer salsas muy picantes sirve, además de lo salado, lo interesante es chilakiles de habanero infierno con guacamole super picoso, frijoles refritos y un huevo estrellado, agregar capsula de vitaminas con bebida de proteína para gym y listo, también al día siguiente sopa de habas, lentejas mexicanas, sopa de tortilla y para rematar pizza vegetariana con jugo v8 con extra limón y sal para comer atascado sin culpa de engordar, ya después se van al día siguiente asaltar un McDonald, burgerking, KFC y otros si no se convencen qué por que los vegetales desaparecen a la gente por falta de calorías. Sugerencia.

[@anthonylosego]

I'm glad that most things can't make it past my immune system. Thank goodness I'll only get herpes at the dip bowl! lol

[@FogelTheVogel]

If there is someone with norrovirus at your party, then you have norrovirus. What they do with the dip is utterly irrelevant

[@MinuteFood]

Yep, this!

[@royrequireswifi488]

makes cruises nightmares

[@DrakonIL]

I worked at a scout camp clinic during a norovirus outbreak that saw 10% of the camp have encounters with us in the worst week. Somehow, and I have NO idea how, but somehow through all of the handwashing, routine 3x/day bleaching of all surfaces, etc, I managed to avoid symptomatic infection. I was the only one working in the clinic who did not get ill. Totally insane. Because we had a dark sense of humor, one week when our nature lodge people got hit hard, we awarded them a "staff infection" award at that week's campfire.

[@synchronium24]

Viral load still matters, presumably.

[@Dr.Hiccup]

I mean ya probably, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't take risk minimizations anyways. Would you rather be at a party where someone has a disease but everyone is wearing masks, or a party where everyone is making out. Obviously this is a dramatic example but it applies to lesser extent to double dipping. Regardless if it's a communal bowl you shouldn't double dip because you don't know if others are comfortable with it. If it's close friends and none of you care then who cares

[@theletters9623]

I remember the mythbusters episode about double dipping where they found out that their control dip (one with zero dips performed) had just an insane amount of bacteria in it already, because bacteria is everywhere and a lot of it doesn't do much.

[@umi3017]

And then they just nuked all their test chip and dips, classic mythbuster

[@edwardnedharvey8019]

The bacteria that are in the air all around us are not usually human pathogens. To get those, you typically have to get it from other humans.

[@Necro_fury]

​@@umi3017yeah really liked their idea of sterile salsa

[@HeroDarkStorn]

That was my first thought, how does adding ~10k matter when there are uncountable millions already. There was also the 5-minute rule episode, which annoyed me because they didn't test the difference between 1-microsecond rule and 1-week rule. That is, to me, touching the ground at all is the major "infector", leaving it there for seconds or days should make no difference (of course ignoring natural spoiling of food in time)

[@RedSntDK]

Ohh, right, that's the episode where they had to make an over pressurized sterile tent to keep it as clean as possible.

[@Zaxares]

My rule of thumb is you only double dip with people you live with (if they're not grossed out about it). Under those conditions, chances are that whatever diseases they have will definitely be spread to you anyway via talking, sneezing, sharing the same bathroom or bedroom facilities etc. At public or other gatherings, don't double dip; it's the equivalent of standing over a bowl of food and open-mouthed breathing on it. Sure, the actual risk is probably not that high, but it's still gross. :P

[@ElJosher]

Agreed

[@Ruhrpottpatriot]

You're probably getting more germs from just shaking hands with a person, at least on average, considering how terrible many peoples hygiene is after going to the toilet.

[@Connie_cpu]

@@Ruhrpottpatriot My bf works retail, according to him about 80% of people don't wash their hands at all in public bathrooms

[@naranjo5277]

rotate and dip, it will be fresh every time 🤗

[@masterkevkev]

@@Connie_cpu And the idiotic reason is that these very germ-carrying nimwits go "I didn't touch my ass/genitals, so my hands are fine" - Say the person who touched the initial dirty doorknob opening the bathroom door (let's say it's a push door so they never touched it), who then will touch their pants (Let's assume no belt-handling/leather), to at least open a fly/hole (if male) to then piss (Let's say they literally have no underwear) at a urinal that will *not* 100% dodge their own hands/body from splash-back (Worse chance at a urinal instead of a toilet, so let's assume toilet - all the positives here), and somehow do all this without touching the door to the stall they took to use said stall in said bathroom.... and then perfectly took a paper towel sheet from a dispenser that had no paper out visibly to begin with and has no bacteria (somehow) throughout the slot it's sliding through - automatic with a hand sensor - *JUST* so they can then open back the bathroom door with the paper towel to not take bacteria from others who do the same but worse so they could leave. In the *near perfect* (even a germaphobe would make a mistake here) scenario, you've still transferred bacteria from your pants/pockets/fly (that I'm sure is 100% clean and totally not blown against with dust, touched by anything else, surgical level fine) to your hands. In that near perfect scenario, people who do not care about bacteria have to agree that they don't mind me (or anybody else) wiping my hand against my pants crotch region or ass cheeks (on the pants), and touching a dip or drink they're going to consume. If you're fine with me grabbing my crotch for a few seconds and then putting my finger in your dip - then fine. But if that disgusts you - that is the *near perfect scenario* amount of bacteria transferred from someone who just used a public bathroom (or in the party instance, a bathroom at someone's house that others have used and for some reason has a paper towel dispenser, a push door that doesn't lock or shut without key... you know the impossibility of this but you get the point) to handling a chip. By the way, this is all explaining *hand* bacteria transfer. We haven't even double-dipped. If what I've explained is already far enough - realize that the chip didn't even double dip. Realize the chip didn't even touch the mouth. It just entered the dip once, and has transferred what the hand has; And this is a near perfect scenario of someone who didn't wash their hands. Not tryin' to put the fear of the world to everyone, but know at every party (no matter how well you know your friends (idiots or not)), someone has that mentality of never washing their hands. Every time you are consuming something that isn't perfectly sealed to the second you touched it (like a bottled drink, or a bag of chips), mentally accept you're fine eating (or drinking) something that has ample pants-transferred crotch/ass bacteria already in it. Enjoy the info 😇and pray to whatever you pray to that the lovely-lovely individual isn't carrying an incurable virus/disease.

[@AaronBrooks1]

One significant vector at parties, particularly ones where people are talking loud and standing close is just HOW MUCH we spit when talking and that spit will inevitably land on the food you're holding and are about to eat. These droplets are also inhaled and land in your eyes and mouth directly. There were several studies during COVID which detailed this but I don't have the links handy.

[@andrewhooper7603]

I remember at the very beginning of the pandemic I worked with a guy who insisted on standing a foot away from people he was talking to. I didn't like that shit before and told him as much. After it started and more people were having to remind him to back up a bit, he started getting anxious and was uncomfortable talking from 4-6' away. Anyways, guy ended up getting fired after being taken into managements' office to answer for why he had photos of a female coworker from inside the church she attended and lunging at the supervisor when he suggested he back off her.

[@echthros91]

@@andrewhooper7603 Well that escalated.

[@avoidant560]

In my area, we avoided the double dipping debacle entirely by providing some small plates to carry your own sauce. That way, you can even go so far to triple dipping or even quadruple dipping.

[@chingizzhylkybayev8575]

How small are those bites lol

[@pmintertek]

I smell (or taste) competitive dipping

[@theonewhocaredandasked9126]

@@trashbag27531 and a half inches

[@Herobello7141]

Or quintiple dipping 😂

[@Hanqy]

​@@trashbag2753that's what she asked 😢

[@jaimepujol5507]

I can say I only discovered the concept of double-dipping as an exchange student in the US, before (or after) that I had never heard or thought it was an issue or that it was gross.

[@Thesmus]

i discovered double dipping cause of lilo and stitch, when i was looking for each of the experiments and found one where their thing is they double dip, which got me confused as to why it seemed like it's supposed to be a problem

[@JuliETrevA]

Saaaame. Where I'm from it's extremely common to share food and it was so wild to me to visit my now wife then gf in the UK and have her family stare at me like I committed a crime for "double dipping"

[@sheepketchup9059]

​​@@JuliETrevA it's because you have difficulty picking up social cues. Also, you share your food, yes, but with only one dip per chip, and then you pick a new chip for the next dip, it has nothing to do with not wanting to share, it has, however, to do with respect and regard.

[@Hetsu..]

@@sheepketchup9059 if youve never shared a drink before and refuse to than sure be grossed out, but if one ever shared a drink with friends then double dipping isnt the end all be all

[@t4squared]

@@JuliETrevAI’m American too and in my household it was always understood that double dipping was gross. So don’t use being American as an excuse

[@LENZ5369]

I avoid it as a standard; though I do consider double dipping in the same ballpark as kissing, drinking from the same cup and so on -ie. stuff I absolutely don't do with random acquaintances and certainly not strangers.

[@smurfyday]

As the video said, this is cultural. Other peoples are fine with it. There's no right or wrong, just what your culture is

[@hebl47]

@@smurfyday Well, some cultures are okay with kissing strangers on the mouth. Doesn't mean an individual has to just accept it because culture says so if they're personally not fine with it.

[@MassiveDestructionSP]

​@@smurfyday Some cultures think that child brides are okay. Culture is irrelevant.

[@someguycalledcerberus9805]

It's not just in the same ballpark, it's the same game. Whether you're OK with someone double-dipping into your bowl should have a 1:1 overlap with whether you're OK with drinking from the same bottle with them, or using the same utensil as them.

[@althechicken9597]

So what I'm hearing is that you want to kiss?

[@yanmarle2864]

The worst by far is the repulsive birthday cake-candle situation! Worsened by the fact that hardly anyone has dared to challenge it.

[@slicedtoad]

Why is it the worst? Eating isn't a particularly strong vector for disease and most of the viral/bacterial transfer will be from the saliva on the cake. Hand shaking is almost certainly worse. Hell, talking face to face with someone spews tiny droplets all over their face.

[@WyattGreene-kz7uk]

@@slicedtoad blowing over the cake

[@slicedtoad]

@@WyattGreene-kz7uk Yeah, that just mostly just puts saliva on the cake. Which is almost certainly not the worst thing about social gatherings.

[@KuroroSama42]

@@slicedtoad Also, it's 1 person's saliva unlike the dip, which would be a cocktail of everyone's.

[@lopezcarmencecilia]

In my office for birthday's we no longer do it...because of germs.

[@Maxylium]

0:10 i've lived long enough to become a monster

[@cookiezandcream5434]

Dear god.

[@imadork123]

Just normalize putting a portion of dip on your own plate by providing a spoon to scoop out!

[@nameless488]

We need this

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

Someone _will_ stick that spoon in their mouth without thinking. How about a spatula?

[@barneylaurance1865]

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated How about a balloon whisk?

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

What about not caring so much about irrelvant stuff? No? Ok... I had an hunch you would say that....

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

@@TheAllMightyGodofCod having hunches about what you’re going to say when you have a conversation with yourself isn’t particularly impressive.

[@catwhite905]

if your concerned about the bacteria in the bowl after double dipping, but just cant get over the urge to not double dip, just use the OTHER side of the chip, the one you havent bitten into (note: this works better for french fries but ehh)

[@Kripahhhhh1402]

Most of the time people will just gonna forget about this and then eat this and that while double dipping normally. It doesn't even matter because the part of the chip you touch are going to make a contact with the dipping anyway.

[@ms9001]

most people will not notice you switched side and they will look at you grossly

[@matthewkendrick8280]

And then the bacteria on your hand (probably definitely worse than your mouth) goes in the food

[@dougthedonkey1805]

That’s more nasty, I think, because your hands are likely as dirty or more than your mouth

[@supernovero]

​@@dougthedonkey1805 you're already eating with your hands anyway?

[@T11235]

I only do it on my own food

[@williamansfield]

Same, but all food is my food

[@joshuagagnon8387]

🤣

[@seagull2204]

Don't double dip if it's nacho food.

[@pixl_xip]

​@@seagull2204That joke is too good

[@seagull2204]

@@pixl_xip Are you pun patrol? Am I under arrest?

[@SnowMexicann]

I found out this was a problem when someone told me I shouldnt double dip... my nachos... in my sauce... that I wasnt sharing....

[@Aztonio]

Some people are just brainless robots, it's astounding. 😂

[@theonlymegumegu]

for context, I'm 1st gen filipino American. i will never forget the time i asked my dad about double dipping (i was prompted by thinking about how we unashamedly normally shared the same bowl of vinegar for dipping food in). me: dad, do Filipinos care about double dipping? dad: what's that? me: *explains* dad: why would you care about that? me: well, that answers my question XD

[@YindiOfficial]

lmaooo he's right tho, those south east asian dips are no joke when it comes to acid and salt (usually in the form of fish sauce).

[@bryannorris8049]

The video says some of the bacterial transfers are helpful species. I wonder what knock-on effects we have from only my closest romantic partner transfers mouth microbiome contents with me because we are ultra-sanitary conscious.

[@cameronschyuder9034]

I mean tbf family spit sharing is different than not family and not friends spit sharing. My mom made it clear that we can use our spoons to get soup from the same big ol' pot, but that this was not to be done with others outside family. Not everyone at a particular party knows everyone there that intimately enough. And yes, the relationship someone has with another can and does affect their willingness to share spit with them.

[@BlazeMakesGames]

I remember that the mythbusters tested this back in the day and they ran into an issue of the dip itself having so much bacteria and such in it before even doing any dipping that it was difficult to even tell what had changed

[@chestersnap]

There's only three cases where I double dip. The first is if I'm the only one eating it (oh no I got my own germs). The second is if I'm only sharing with my family. The last is if it's a large enough item that I can turn around to dip again without any part that my mouth touched getting into it

[@nahor88]

The large item is the main problem, at Texmex/Mex restaurants in particular. Tortilla chips tend to be very unusually shaped, and the bowl of salsa tends to be small. If the restaurant is busy, you may not get any small plates to go with the chips and salsa, and asking for them takes forever. The only alternative is breaking the chips apart by hand, which is messy and can actually spread even more bacteria.

[@supernovero]

​@@nahor88nah it works fine for me

[@Narissa_1248]

“You may also be subjected to: Hugs” 😂 no truer words have been said

[@markzambelli]

In northern Italy it is a common practice to pass around a large glass of wine to each party-goer to so they can each have a sip... I wonder how that tradition may change (if at all) in the coming years after the recent pandemic.

[@psalmy26]

Alcohol is often a different story

[@silverchairsg]

What happens if someone has like AIDS or something?

[@markzambelli]

@@silverchairsg Well, specifically for AIDS it would be (more than likely) fine... that particular virus spreads through direct bodily fluid transfer (ie blood and semen...saliva poses a very low threat); the risk would be greater if the AIDS carrier had an open cut in/on their mouth or lips AND the other person also had an open cut on their mouth or lips although even then the acidity or alcohol content of the food/drink would need to be considered for its role in killing the virus before the next person had any exposure.

[@silverchairsg]

@@markzambelli Nice to know, thanks!

[@HamHamDude]

4:10 those kids are hella excited to look at an empty countertop

[@Scoop-cp3qv]

😭🙏🙏

[@G-NG3RRR]

It has cocaine on it and they are addicts

[@VvJ1j]

Why wouldnt you be???

[@2yldy]

Lmao 🤣

[@cloudkitt]

As the conclusion oberves - avoid double dipping simply because it's considered rude (in the US). There are more than enough germs already in the dip and on the chip that whatever the double dipper imparts is not significant.

[@sohopedeco]

That kind of video exposes a critical difference between Brazilian and American cultures. Here in Brazil, we have a great aversion to touching food with our hands. If we were to serve a "dip" on a gathering, we'd likely have a pâté knife to cover the chip with it.

[@danielazevedoteixera4194]

And then we pass around cups of whisky and energy drink to everyone at the party anyways Lol

[@danilodesouza6461]

​@danielazevedoteixera4194 that's why I always prefer "rolês de velho"

[@phaedrus000]

This channel is usually so good about not spreading misinformation, but you really dropped the ball this time so I feel like I have to make a correction. At 0:50 you referred to Tostitos as "salsa."

[@Arkylie]

Someone get a rope?

[@AlfredEiji]

That got a chuckle out of me.

[@Crazy_Diamond_75]

L.O.L.

[@cameronschyuder9034]

it says "chunky salsa" right above the brand name tho so 😅 it's like saying "it's Kleenex, not tissue"

[@nienke7713]

The idea of consuming someone else's saliva just grosses me out, unless I'm okay with kissing that person😅

[@schrodingerskatze4308]

You're going to consume spit anyway. When people talk they spit a lot more than you think and it goes into the food too. So there's not really any way to prevent it at all.

[@nienke7713]

@@schrodingerskatze4308 still feels different

[@EnlightenedMinarchist]

Nice double standard. Let me guess. You're a leftist.

[@ZarHakkar]

​@@nienke7713Conquer your emotions. Start kissing everyone.

[@nienke7713]

@@ZarHakkar ew no, gross

[@monky123344]

I feel like double dipping is frowned upon in western cultures is from gatherings of strangers. Most of the other examples you gave of transferring germs/bacteria are things that only happen between people friends and closer. Having the control over who you trust to keep clean is important and you lose that control at a party where people double dip. It also seems like such a small and easy thing to change so why not just avoid double dipping in those situations...

[@dracknoid3015]

cause I dont care about others, I want chips and salsa

[@20cnVision]

Yee I agree. Also the bacteria thing never really played a role for me. For me it's just etiquette that I learned and I know that other people may be bothered by it, so I don't do it. Unless of course I am the only one using that sauce (like when you have your individual sauce at a restaurant or something)

[@jek__]

lol, you can tell someones a good scientist and not just a human by them coming up with a test like "dip wheat thins in chocolate syrup"

[@sayuriartsy5108]

If I'm being honest, even if it carried over 0 bacteria I would still call someone gross for double dipping.

[@silver.shoelaces]

I don't care if the risk is low. Low is not zero. My mom gave me a cold sore when I was 11 because she drank out of my glass (without permission!) and now I will have a cold sore for the rest of my life. I am never sharing a drink with someone or double dipping ever again.

[@Rarkss]

because she was sick but most likely you are gonna be fine but keep being paranoid dont know how to fix that

[@jek__]

I feel like a chip or torn off bit of bread is small enough to just get the adequate amount of dip on the first time and eat in one bite. Double dipping is just poor planning

[@schrodingerskatze4308]

Or your mouth is too small.

[@cameronschyuder9034]

@@schrodingerskatze4308 saturate almost the entire thing so that you can nibble throughout? Unless there's an aversion to sogginess over time

[@skie6282]

Id argue the biggest worry about it is 1, the dip going bad if for some reason youd want to save any of it. And 2, kids. They get more sick easier. But i guess if your already standing around a room with everyone its a bit late

[@icouldntthinkofagoodname7216]

It's not about the germs, it's about the respect of the Dip and the thing you're dipping.

[@cameronschyuder9034]

But then the question becomes, why would double-dipping be disrespectful? A tangible, logical explanation that is commonly used by those who are grossed out by it would be "because it's sharing your germs with other people." If it's not about the germs, then tbh I'm struggling to find an alternative explanation. Other people's spit is gross? Why? Usually disgust functions as a protective mechanism against disease -- whether the risk is real or not doesn't matter if we think it might be bad enough. Like yes I know it's a social norm not to double dip because people are grossed out by it so double dipping would be violating that norm, and thus make others think that that violation of a social rule is considered inconsiderate and disrespectful. But I'm curious about how it originated as a social rule, or is it one of those things that had a real purpose before but now is just so integrated into a particular culture that they don't think to question it even if they now know it (double dipping) has no real consequence to them besides psychologically. Which to be clear is important, but it would be nice to get someone's specific reasons. For instance, I'm uncomfortable sharing spit with others I'm not that close to, because I would need to feel comfortable with them as a person before sharing foods with them, and even then we air-sip with liquids in bottles. Why trust is important for me to share saliva, and why sharing saliva is an intimate action, I am trying to parse apart. Maybe it's because the only other situation where you would switch spit with someone is when open-mouth kissing them, which is considered an even more intimate action (where I'm from - U.S.), such that there is a mental association even if they are not exactly the same thing. In high school, someone gave me part of a crepe cake at one point, and I offered some to acquaintances in my U.S. History class. I was thinking that we would use utensils to split the food up, but then the girl that accepted said food invitation started eating directly from the cake. I felt uncomfortable making a fuss about the spit touching, so I gave in and ate too. I didn't get ill or anything (that I remember), and my relationship with that girl didn't change, but it's not something I would want to do again with people I don't //know// know.

[@marscaleb]

Personally, if I ever double-dip into a communal bowl, I always dip from a corner that I didn't bite off of. The thing that gets me though: you can actually see George do this in the Seinfield clip, and NO ONE talks about this. I always wondered if Jason Alexander was against double-dipping himself and that was his little nod when they filmed that scene.

[@Turquerina]

Without thinking much about it, I subconsciously do the same thing when I share with other people. It just feels like a new dip while technically double dipping and makes sure I reach untouched corners, it's interesting!

[@merren2306]

main issue I take with double dipping is that it does affect the shelf life of the dip in case the dip isn't finished in that sitting. Especially relevant for things like bread spreads and people double dipping their knives.

[@frostnovaomega1152]

I love how this is a whole debate when you can literally just spoon some dip on your chip, avoiding the whole "saliva getting in the bowl" situation

[@myspleenisbursting4825]

Or just dipping the side that you didn't bite

[@cobbcoding]

@@myspleenisbursting4825 or just eating the whole chip in one bite because it's a little chip and the only reason you would not do that is because you want to double dip

[@ZarHakkar]

What do you do with the spoon? Just carry a dirty spoon around awkwardly? If it's one shared spoon for the dip, then everyone's touching the handle and getting germs on it.

[@frostnovaomega1152]

@@ZarHakkar One shared spoon. The handle will be germ-y but nobody is putting the handle in their mouth (Hopefully).

[@ZarHakkar]

@@frostnovaomega1152 Touch spoon -> touch chip -> chip goes in mouth

[@QPoily]

In the end it's all about social etiquette. When there's a divisive topic like this, it's rude to ignore the side that takes issue with it and default to the side that doesn't take issue with it. That's not how being considerate works since the people who don't care simply get a slightly blander chip, while the people who do care get their entire experience ruined. One is LESS of a net plus, while the other is a net negative.

[@astaiannymph]

While it's good to know about the science and different cultures' approaches, in the end, it's best to be considerate to others.

[@Arkylie]

I'd say the biggest party risk these days is *phone-sharing* -- cell phones are *disgusting* and I don't get why it's become so normal for people to grab them in order to see things and then just go back to their normal stuff without washing their hands. And I'm still annoyed at the friend-of-a-friend who used his used chopsticks to grab food out of the communal dish I'd bought for the group and then, when informed, basically said "that's just who I am and you better get used to it." (Not the only reason we were at odds on that trip, but that one really riled me, in the midst of a *pandemic* of all things.) But yeah, there's a lot of unknowns -- though also, one would expect that cultures where food-germ-sharing is the norm would actually have better immune responses to that norm, and that people from food-germ-aversion cultures who just decide to suddenly switch modes... well, I understand there's a reason that travelers, not natives, deal with Montezuma's Revenge: their immune systems aren't used to the onslaught. I'd say there's enough reason for me to (a) avoid parties with a lot of people to begin with (yay introversion!) and (b) maintain some level of aversion reaction to shared saliva.

[@applecake2209]

What was wrong with the chop sticks?

[@ishaalimtiaz6715]

It's better he used chopsticks than his ffingers

[@kayleighz7034]

@@applecake2209im assuming he used the chopsticks to eat some other food with beforehand. it would be like someone scooping out of a communal dip with a spoon they just ate off of

[@obsessedmalou]

​@@applecake2209the chopsticks might have been in his mouth.

[@harvmate]

Admittedly I seem to have a higher gross tolerance than most people I know but I have never seen the big deal with dipping twice. Ya gotta get that Guacamole! Also humans to way more dangerous stuff than this whenever we’re together (or alone for that matter)

[@mtranchi]

Yeah... there's probably not much risk to licking somebody's floor either. That doesn't mean I wanna do it.

[@cameronschyuder9034]

i disagree; if that floor has shoes on it, there's big risk of poop, dirt, etc. that you don't want in your body. If the host does not allow shoes inside, then there's feet stink (bacteria; tho tbf idk if they are a health threat rather than just making feet stinky), maybe fungi, etc.

[@appleislander8536]

I've never felt comfortable playing beer-pong with strangers, because of the infection risk. I stick to vodka pong.

[@EnlightenedMinarchist]

Infection risk? It's literally alcohol. Laaaaame

[@Starlight-ue8jy]

Nah, I usually do bleach pong

[@spoot]

2:35 virus aren't the disease vector, but the infectious pathogen itself.

[@riuphane]

This is super interesting and very well researched and presented. My kind of video!!

[@DeLambada]

Considering that avoiding a double dip takes zero effort I say: just grab another tacco or chip!

[@caspermcgonagle1532]

Or a plate

[@Hello_there497]

Pro tip: If they starts double dipping in the food, you start it too. This way you'll also give out 10k bacteria. So 10k in and 10k out will result in 0 bacteria gained/lost.

[@MariOfTheMountains]

If I really want to double dip at a public event, instead I dip and flip. I dip the chip, bite half of it (or a bit less), flip to dip with the clean/unbitten side, and eat the rest. This technique can really only be executed once per chip, though.

[@kingplunger6033]

I would never do that and I would never eat anything that has had contact like that. Doesn't matter how much or how risky, its gross 🤢

[@hothdog]

not even on you OWN personal plate?

[@Bullsquid592]

I wonder what influence it would have on your gut microbiome, whether their could be some benefit as well as some risk

[@MarieDomander]

Great question

[@DaShikuXI]

If anything it's a benefit to your immune system (unless you're immunocompromised somehow).

[@SPAJ92]

Grab a chip from one edge, dip one side in one dip and another in another dip, then eat. Then you get the benefits of double dipping without going back for more

[@unknownplayz1029]

You genius

[@RenRenRan]

I feel like if someone is really really worried about getting sick from double dipping the easiest thing to do would just be pour some of the dip from the jar into a little personal bowl or something.

[@BellaAnderson-o11o1o]

As a kid, someone told me never to double-dip, and I didn't know what it meant. So I dipped one side of the fry, turned it around, and then dipped the other side of the fry, and said "is this what you mean by double-dipping?" And they told me no and to stop playing around, but they still didn't tell me what it meant. I only dipped things in once after that. It wasn't till years later that I finally understood what it meant, and it never crossed my mind to do that kind of thing.

[@spectralspectra2282]

As someone with herpes, i will never double dip!

[@maxonmendel5757]

parties? double dipping? sounds like we are finally back to normal.

[@yukko_parra]

Even when eating a la carte with my family, we often share food because we are genuinely curious about the quality of the food, and yknow... so we can talk more about food. There are also some soups we drink directly from communally... this is not just for fam but often happens with friends as well

[@Arkylie]

I love sharing food, getting more taste/texture experiences during one meal -- but in our family, we share portions *before* we start eating, or we take things mid-meal / "are you done with that?" that don't already have mouth germs on them (e.g. fries).

[@philippdrescher6012]

That just builds a strong immune system. :)

[@luxon4]

eye reveal at 3:45

[@feynstein1004]

Every social gathering needs a Timmy on dip watch

[@VoidHybrid]

I already don't double dip, but if I'm sick, I make extra sure that I don't. But that can't necessarily be said for everyone. I would not dip out of the same bowl as somebody else who double dipped into it. Not sure I've ever actually been anywhere where that has happened. The times there is a communal bowl, like salsa or queso at mexican, none of the people present double dip, so there is no issue. Also, I like to think it works, but I will often times flip over what I dipped and dip the side that wasn't exposed to my saliva into the bowl, so technically double dipping, but not double dipping in a way that puts my saliva into the bowl.

[@PhilBoswell]

When I was a kid we used to get invited to "chickenpox parties" so that we all got exposed to build up immunity. This is small beans in comparison.

[@jbca]

Back in your day, people were damn ignorant, and there’s no wisdom for us to take from that.

[@CodeDashie]

@@jbca savage but true. We pretty much learned what not to do and better ways of doing things. Old knowledge can become a situation of "I had to go through it so I'm going to make you go through it". There is no honor unnecessary suffering. Not saying that is what Phil will impose as I'm just warning.

[@malirabbit6228]

The virus 🦠 that is chicken pox , lays dormant in the body and may reactive as Shingles in adults over the age of 50 ! Good luck dealing with that !

[@Stuff_And_Things]

What you are suppose to do is spoon some dip on a plate with some chips. However, if you are among friends an acceptable double-dip technique if agreed on, is to dip, nip and flip a dip. If you flip the chip around after nipping the dipped portion, you can dip the un-nipped side of the chip but just make the flip obvious so you don't get any lip. You hip? ;)

[@tic857]

Growing up Asian, almost all of our meals and snacks were communal, family style. Everything in the middle, you had a bowl of rice, you had your chopsticks you reached in with your chopsticks. No questions asked. The only time separate chopsticks were used were if you were actively sick like with a cold. And so when I encountered the whole "Ew double dipping" thing at friends birthday party I was very, very, very, very confused, and thought they were concerned because it was with fingers, so the next time I went to the party I brought chopsticks to pick up chips and stuff, which...led to a whole other round of "this chick doesn't understand American manners". Jokes on them, because years later a few of my friends from that time were like "I eat chips and popcorn with chopsticks now, my fingers are clean."

[@noeschaeffer2167]

Oh I eat chips with chopsticks too! It’s pretty great.

[@Starlight-ue8jy]

I would do that but I can’t use chopsticks (so I just religiously wash my hands)

[@sean-in-wnc]

Yeah, this is why it's been so hard to sell the public on gut biome therapies which involve transplanting fecal material. People associate bacteria/microorganisms with gross and bad, even though you are literally covered with them, inside and out, and they are absolutely vital to our well-being and survival.

[@homestarmy1]

Interestingly, the theologian Erasmus also said that smelling another person's plate is also bad etiquette. I'm imagining going out to dinner and the person next to me moving their face an inch away from my plate lol.

[@garg4531]

One other factor to consider is whether or not a person at that party is even carrying a deadly disease, in which case double dipping might be the least of your worries

[@Guaseth]

People be like: Double dipping bad, and then submerge their whole unwashed hand to ensure the chip is fully covered with sauce (just to avoid a second dip)

[@johnnyofthesticks7260]

You are all invited as long as you have the right vibe.

[@aabbccddeeff782]

Hi Kate. I have a thought that could be a topic for next video. What makes a steak (or any piece of animal protein) chewy, how to avoid that during cooking, or how small should a piece be cut to make it chewable.

[@nothanks39]

i think one of the factors is the fibers in the meat. you can take a knife and score the meat to cut some of the longer fibers, resulting in a more tender steak

[@DaShikuXI]

The strength of the protein chains in the meat is what makes it tough. When you heat up meat the protein chains firm up and become stronger, which makes the meat tougher. The evaporation of moisture also makes the meat dry and harder to chew as a result. The way you avoid this is by not overcooking the meat. Muscle fibers also have a layer of collagen around it, which adds to the hardness of the fibers. Those collagens need to be heated up until they dissolve, removing the hard outer layer. This means you need an adequate temperature for cooking your meat, and time for the collagen to actually dissolve. This is why sous vide is a great method of cooking meat for example, as it keeps a consistent temperature over a longer period of time.

[@ElementEvilTeam]

it also depends the location of the "double dip". Just avoid where they double dipped and you should be fine.

[@muxpux]

My problem with double dipping is the enzymes in saliva break down the dip. Maybe it’s just in my head but I feel like some foods start breaking down faster if they’ve been double dipped.

[@davidk7529]

Might as well do a whole video about Korean food culture and how it affects people’s health. It’s normal for several people to eat stew or other dishes in the center of the table, and of course dip the spoon in repeatedly. It technically *should* be worse than double-dipping, but there aren’t any documented health concerns arising from it apart from obvious situations where someone is sick and others are trying to avoid contact anyway.

[@Scoopta]

I'mma keep on worrying and avoiding double dippers

[@FalconFetus8]

Even after watching this, I'm still going to avoid double-dipping in shared sauces. The ick-factor is still very real; you wouldn't drink your own urine, even if it it _is_ perfectly sterile.

[@astaiannymph]

Sadly, this is doubly not true: some people drink urine and while it's probably sterile in your body, it's almost never sterile after you pass it.

[@MyVanir]

You get more of that icky stuff from talking to someone than from dipping after someone who double-dipped.

[@WangleLine]

I'm skinny dipping in the sauce

[@PapasGatito]

Always ask before double dipping, you never know when your fellow dwarves might be needing that ammo or if there is enough Nitra in the cave to ask for another capsule

[@phaedrus000]

Greenbeards amirite

[@aylen7062]

I live in a country where our bonding tradition is drinking mate in groups of people through the same straw. Double dipping doesn't sound that bad.

[@christianh2581]

So you come from argentina

[@aylen7062]

@@christianh2581 Yes, correct. Uruguay and Paraguay also fit the description but choosing the most populated country was a safer bet and you got it right.

[@MisaelKpo]

And we do it with different sets of people and on a daily basis.

[@LangThoughts]

So, some of your friends are ɴ@zis?

[@LeonardChurch33]

I shouldn't be surprised that there are D20 fans on the MinuteScience team but throwing Evan Kelmp in the patreon plug took me off guard.

[@matt92hun]

So the best thing to do is to avoid people altogether. I can do that.

[@boginoid]

And hog the whole dip while I'm at it.

[@matt92hun]

@@boginoid That's the spirit.

[@blackqweenmars]

A good thing that you could do in order to get more sauce on your food is dipping it again, but turning it to the other side like if you have a fry dip, it eat it and then turn it to the side that you didn’t bite and then eat it

[@TheWorldsLargestOven]

3:06 among us

[@spacepotato2516]

Among us

[@2GoatsInATrenchCoat]

amogus

[@yellowishnesses656]

There is actually another highly dangerous possibility if you double-dip -- getting kicked out of the party.

[@archivethearchives]

First, from one freckled person to another, yours look so cool. Second, the way in which food is served and shared is a very nuanced thing in my home. Something like a shared dip bowl would be very inappropriate to serve guests. If anything like a dip were served, it would be so they can allot themselves a serving on their own plate. Sharing food together in the way you described other cultures is something we only regard as for family and loved ones. I would find it very inappropriate if an acquaintance or friend was made to eat from something like a shared dish of dip. It would not show respect to the guests. When my auntie and I are sitting together, we share food from each other’s plates or sometimes eat from the same bowl or plate. But that is not something I would do with a friend or acquaintance, right? I am sure many feel the same way. It is not just because of the germs, but a matter of respect. Touching someone else’s food is offensive to some.

[@jasonreed7522]

From my american perspective the big food sharing rules are: 1. The other person must consent to giving you their food. 2. Already segmented foods like french fries or popcorn are considered sharable because you can remove some pieces with contaminating the rest. 3. Something eaten with utensils like a bowl of ice cream or mashed potatoes can have 1 bite shared so long as the utensil is clean and the removed piece of food was from an untouched part of the plate. 4. Double dipping is mentally gross, as is eating after someone else regardless of the actual hygiene of the situation. And this last one isn't a rule but significant others generally have a higher willingness to share food in ways that involve higher risk of spit swapping. Although the exact degree is between them and no one else. (But others can be grossed out by it) And related to food sharing is drink sharing, the original owner of the drink determines the rule for how the other person must consume it. Normally the asker must "waterfall" if anything less than a close friend.

[@Ludix147]

Yeah honestly it's super nice to eat out of the same bowl with a spoon. Wouldn't do it at a large party though, but absolutely with close friends

[@segevstormlord3713]

The real sin of double-dipping is that you're leaving your digestive enzymes in the dip. This will actually cause it to get gross, and the more people contributing enzymes, the sooner the dip will get gross-looking as the stuff in it starts to digest right in the bowl. XP

[@petrosthegoober]

GIMME DATA is an appropriate reflex

[@zackftw2748]

Solution: don’t go to parties

[@Schokofondue]

I think it's more about if you want to keep the food for several hours/days, so that it doesn't spoil as fast. The old saying about the soup is about that probably 🤔

[@Speed-TV]

Bro, just use the other side of the chip y'all. It's not that hard.

[@prodquindle]

But you have to touch the other side to dip in the first place

[@Speed-TV]

@@prodquindle no, you don't

[@prodquindle]

@@Speed-TV are you stupid respectfully

[@cameronschyuder9034]

@@prodquindle Rotate chip and/or use a different arm position

[@prodquindle]

@@cameronschyuder9034 youre barely getting bang for your buck and germs are quick

[@yuvaldolev7969]

OK I've literally only started watching the video but I hopped in the comments to say that you've definitely immediately got my first concern right - you used Costanza.

[@peqpie]

I'm missing a pretty significant factor here. What i was always taught is that double dipping causes the dip to go bad quickly when put in storage due to the stuff in your saliva kickstarting the bacterial populations and the enzymes in your saliva partially digesting the food. I wonder if this is true.

[@DaShikuXI]

Whatever you're eating is already covered in your bacteria before you even double dip. Just breathing near the food already imparts bacteria onto it, through miniscule spit particles that you emit whenever you breathe. When you lean over the table to dip the first time, most of the bacteria are already there. Not to mention things like your dead skin cells falling into the food as you dip, which feed the bacteria on the food. Even if you double dip though, you barely even add any extra bacteria to the food, as most food is already riddled to the brim with bacteria (which is a good thing). Unless you have some sort of weird medical condition, your spit won't make food go bad quicker. At least not at a rate that would be reasonably noticeable.

[@johndoe-rq1pu]

One of those glorious things I never have to concern myself with by just never knowing any other people.

[@fforfail8424]

I don't see why we can't just turn the chip around to dip it in again

[@jasonreed7522]

Thats the preferred version of double dipping the communal dip. Ideally you have the option to portion out dip onto your plate or into a small bowl for personal use. But personally most chips are small enough to eat in one bite, and doing so makes way less of a crumb mess.

[@Seacle14]

I thought the video was going to be about double-dipping alone and then putting it back in the fridge and how it could mold then. I never imagined people were INSANE enough to do it with others sharing the same bowl...

[@hypnagogogia]

double dipping is, for me, a completely north american idea. my parents (not north american) never raised us with this aversion to double dipping, i only heard about it from the canadians around me

[@weRbananas]

“Gobbling up some sloppy dip” is an insane sentence

[@fghsgh]

i care about double dipping not because of germs but because of allergens. don't wanna eat something that's literally toxic to me that you ate 5 minutes ago.

[@0bashie]

this will stir up a lot of drama in the chips community

[@AgentM124]

Is there also a metric between double dipping amongst family members (similar genes), or spouses, vs wild strangers? I also reckon, if you trust and know your hygene of people close to you, you're at much lower risk than having randos over who mightn't have washed their hands before quadruple dipping.

[@HeyLetsDoAThing]

Ehhhh that’s the same logic that had people gathering and spreading COVID amongst each other.

[@malanamarie5206]

I don’t care about the germs I just don’t like the idea of someone’s saliva in the food I am eating. Snot and saliva are the only things that make me feel slightly sick. Not many things gross me out so the fact that it grosses me out a little must mean something. I still eat double dipped dip or drink after people occasionally but I have to be close to them.

[@jamiedye6005]

Evan Kelmp watches Minute Food! ❤😂

[@Seadalgo]

Specifying Hepatitis A when talking about the food bborne illness is helpful

[@sherizaahd]

dip the chip, then dip a different side. get a bit on your plate then go nuts, licking your plate is still considered rude though. definitely don't spit the dip back into the main bowl.

[@naranjo5277]

exactly

[@invoker666]

I have a question about another aspect of double-dipping - does double-dipping while preparing food (to taste for seasoning etc.) increase the chance of spoilage in a significant way?

[@macherie1234]

I was taught to use a new spoon for each taste. Since I hate doing dishes, this does cut down on how much a taste during cooking.

[@CaptainJeoy]

Just don't double dip. That's all.