Miquella Stealing my Heart

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[@pizzaguy2385]

Does this mean we owe Mohg an apology for all the pedo jokes?

[@hundido9287]

The poor guy got seduced

[@hrawwr]

yes lmao he was moghlested all along

[@teagus_Kahn]

Hell yeah😢

[@pathetic2399]

I don’t care enough about him to apologize,

[@pathetic2399]

Plus he’s like the only dude that went yandere for Miquella while under his spell lol no one else did

[@RMBOOF]

"You have a heart of gold. Don't let them take it from you."

[@cursedkei66]

His lines are the same lines as doll wife Ranni. Just replacing some context: Thousand Year journey under the Moon > Thousand Year journey guided by Compassion. He literally uses the rizz lines of the only person you can marry in this game.

[@TheRealVyke]

W reference

[@Kurs..]

​@@cursedkei66It's more likely one god can rule only for a thousand of years

[@ComboSlicer]

Demon's Souls storage guy

[@stephenking5852]

He would make a great member of the Indigo Tribe from DC Comics.

[@a1z158]

Miquella was the real Moghlester all along!

[@totally_sane_youtube_enjoyer]

The Miquellaster

[@Saruva_Eduardo]

I swear to God Miyazaki loves being a troll. The "heart stolen" message is gonna become a meme

[@Chengeist]

After radahn grabed me once i thought "oh nice miquela is helping me". After the second grab "Miyazaki is for sure in his office and laughing at me right now"

[@mark0183]

Me when the cute cashier makes eye contact with me

[@gustavomonteirorodrigues3554]

Giving what he is willing to do to radahn to get his love, and what he does to get ours, kindly miquella does not understand actual kindness, only worship and his dream ( insert griffith parallel) of a "compassionate" world that just uses different methods to keep subjugation. It's like aldia said: "now matter how tender, how exquisite, a lie will remain a lie"

[@aliceblackrose1438]

Use the translator please Siento que eso lo hace un gran villano Un poder aterrador y una mente magistral en un sentido retorcido de la inocencia Una pregunta ¿Es cierto que el plan de Miquella es controlarlos a todos? Es que no sé si es ese o si el solo usa ese poder para controlar a las personas que le hagan falta para concretar ese mundo gentil que quiere crear

[@vergiltheartofpower6616]

A trancendant state of reasoning, you could say

[@ttchme9816]

Aldia's quote is something else honestly, it applies to so many shits

[@10noch25]

Not a far fetch considering a lot of the influences berserk has had in elden ring and other fromsoft games

[@DeathMessenger1988]

I feel like he's a mix of Griffith and Sauron. As in, he's got the best parts of Pre-Eclipse Griffith, but he's also got Sauron's obsession with control and willingness to manipulate others in order to achieve his otherwise benevolent goals. The whole theme of "power corrupts" becomes even more prevalent if you consider what happens to Celebrimbor in Shadow of War continuity. Well, at least no one was raped (except maybe Radahn and/or Mohg, but I'm unsure on whether Miquella's interest in them qualified as sexual). Miyazaki mixed the best parts of Tolkien, Martins and Miura here, and I'm loving this. In the words of Bricky, "MIYAZAKI YOU HACK!" XD

[@ajizel13]

Miquella whispers* "I can save you 50% or more on life insurance" *heart stolen*

[@memoryofsalem4474]

"my order will include free dental and at least 2 weeks of vacation"

[@luxsuperbia1531]

MOHG BEAT THE ALLEGATIONS LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

[@Russell-vq6ux]

WE ARE SO BACK!

[@FalcoMoment]

WE'RE BRINGING ABOUT A NEW DYNASTY!!! 🗣🗣🗣

[@LonkiDonki]

mohg nation W's only

[@ShrimpEmporium]

Mohg didn't kill himself

[@yazsob8259]

WWWWW mohg dynasty for da win

[@davidhong1934]

Elden Ring was a dating sim all along

[@dadevi]

Yep. The whole story is a dating sim satire.

[@consumerjtc5835]

But Miquella is the MC going for the harem ending, and your the secret boss.

[@rimuruimuru]

Always has been

[@masonstewart6232]

I want to date the Dragon Priestess

[@consumerjtc5835]

@@masonstewart6232 Ah, I see your going for the Vyke/Godwyn route.

[@kailanerman5090]

So essentially.... this changes EVERYTHING we thought we knew bout the Lore Miquella basically rizzed his whole family. His mother, his father, his half brother's, and to top it all off... his own twin sister... Thats terrifying. We just assumed because the lore said that they loved each other so much it must be because they were just very close. But this new lore basically says he magically manipulated his own twin sister to be his loving pawn... this guy is GRIFFITH THROUGH AND THROUGH

[@douglasmiguel3539]

And if we Thought more Deeply: What If Miquella Was The WHOLE Reason the Shattering and Godwyn's death Happened? I Remember that Ranni said that the empyreans Worthy of the throne were: Herself, Malenia and Miquella.

[@gavinmcphie6936]

Not necessarily. As we saw with Needle Knight Leda, she chose to follow him even after his charm was broken, as well as many of the denizens within the consecrated snowfield and the Haligtree. He very likely rizzed up Mohg and Malenia, though.

[@douglasmiguel3539]

@@gavinmcphie6936 maybe the "Hypnotized" Ones Cannot Notice The Manipulation and his Influence over their thoughts. Or maybe the long-time Manipulation can Permanently Twist over a Person Thoughts.

[@kailanerman5090]

@gavinmcphie6936 I mean, in Leda's case, it could be just true faith. Same for many at the Tree. IT also COULD potentially be that they are just so desperate to believe in something that they'd be willing to ignore the warning signs in a desperate hope that Miquellas goal will benefit them..? I'm not sure. I was seriously hoping that the dlc would allow us to actually join Miquella. But I'm not sure if there is going to be an alternate ending, which kind of disappoints me... because his ending was what I'd hoped for

[@kailanerman5090]

@@gavinmcphie6936 and yeah, definitely rizzed Mohg 🤣🤣🤣 which is just... really really weird

[@Soooooooooooonicable]

"INSTEAD OF A DARK LORD YOU WOULD HAVE A PRINCE!!! NOT DARK BUT BEAUTIFUL AND RADIANT AS THE DAWN!!! ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DESPAIRRR" - Miquella, probably

[@dadevi]

Yeah. The Lord Of The Rings is all over this one. Some don't appreciate the subtlety of how controlling Miquella is.

[@kaiseryakkovonwarner8783]

Junko is going to love The Lands Between.

[@jasonbelstone3427]

"Promise you'll love only me, and hate everybody else. *Give Me Your Heart* ." -- Miquella, cosplaying as Prince Mytho.

[@coldseraphim]

To think that Miquella theoretically can do this to anyone,literally just seduce anyone to his side Makes me think if the ever so kind Miquella wouldn't become some sort of tyrant,willfully or accidentally

[@tyratyra5549]

Hurts me to say, but he's exactly like his mother. Manipulating anyone he has to for his goals. This world of compassion is likely a delusion. He won't be any better. Even his other half, Trina, wants him in the ground.

[@aliceblackrose1438]

​@@tyratyra5549Use the translator please No entiendo Santa Trina también quiere que Miquella muera ¿Por qué? Además escuche algo de que Miquella tenía un plan de genocidio ¿Es cierto?

[@tyratyra5549]

@aliceblackrose1438 I can't say for certain that his plans involve genocide, but it is very possible. Trina wants Miquella dead because she cares about him. She doesn't want Miquella to be a god because to do so would be a prison. Miquella wants to change the world, but he isn't letting anyone choose to follow him. He's forcing them to admire him. They don't get a choice. So that makes him just like his mother. A manipulative Empyrean who believes his thoughts and goals are the best thing for everyone. But judging from his actions, no one is safe. Our actions, while destructive, most likely are the best course of action. The world is already broken. It doesn't need another monarch making a mess of things. Miquella is completely delusional and Trina knows it. So she wants us to put an end to it.

[@aliceblackrose1438]

@@tyratyra5549 Es un poco triste Por otro lado he escuchado que Radhan y el tenían relación pero que se alejo de él luego de conocer sus intenciones ¿Es eso cierto? ¿Miquella realmente quería estar con Radhan o solo estaba con el por interés?

[@tyratyra5549]

@aliceblackrose1438 In a couple item descriptions, it says that Miquella saw a lord in Radahn because of his incredible strength and his kindness. So Miquella asked Radahn to be his consort. Problem is, we don't know if he ever agreed. We now know that the reason Malenia fought Radahn in the first place was so his body can be killed so he can meet with Miquella in the Realm of Shadows. But Radahn fought back against Malenia. So it's possible Radahn never agreed and was only manipulated by Miquella to join him. Miquella's ability is straight up brainwashing. And it works on literally everyone, even his father, Radagon. The Radahn we fight doesn't speak so much as a word. So it's possible that he didn't choose to fight us, he's just being controlled by Miquella. But then again, Miquella referred to Radahn regaining his soul as a vow, so it's quite possible Radahn really did choose to join Miquella.

[@Lardo137]

The fact that Miquella, the seemingly weakest demigod (in combat), can persuade ANYONE of ANY level of power into joining his side with a whisper and a touch, shows exactly why he was feared as the greatest Empyrean of them all. That's one hell of a power.

[@HerrscherofSimp3164]

So Malenia fought Radahn because he was his little brother's boyfriend?

[@donryanetuke355]

@@HerrscherofSimp3164yup

[@donryanetuke355]

@@HerrscherofSimp3164Melania probably thought that Radahn knew where miquella was.

[@diegojimenez5937]

​@@donryanetuke355 i actually think radahn probably rejected miquella's whole plan... So miquella send malenia to kill him to obtain his soul and with moghs body turn him into a puppet like we see here

[@deepseafish81]

It's probably more akin to brain washing considering the bewitching branch

[@LaRoue_DeLaChance]

Miquella litteraly says " There is no death for you. You will serve on my side you want it or not" Thats terryfing, much more than death

[@MiquellasLover]

I do of my own free will

[@sailingadventurer]

​@@MiquellasLover Miquella simp spotted 😂😂

[@MiquellasLover]

@@sailingadventurer Indeed

[@kwamemwangs2173]

​@@MiquellasLover bro's heart has been stolen

[@MiquellasLover]

@@kwamemwangs2173 I gave it of my own free will

[@EldenRingBuildsArchive]

Some very dark implications regarding Malenia, Mohg, Radahn and Loretta

[@pathetic2399]

There’s definitely dark implications for the other three, but Malenia? I don’t think so. There was a mutual love between them, as further shown in cut content. Plus she was loyal to him long after he was gone. There re plenty of people that sided with Miquella without needing to be under his influence because they believed in his goodness and his cause/

[@khushidudy6293]

What about Loretta?

[@lollypop9998]

How so?

[@VictorIV0310]

Pretty sure Malenia was in on his plan the whole time, even whispering “Miquella awaits thee, o promised consort.” right before she unleashes the Scarlet Rot on Radahn.

[@cursedkei66]

@@VictorIV0310 Pretty sure Radahn was in on it too. Freyja's questline and Miquella's own lines are all concerned fulfilling a vow in return for his consortship. Only issue is that the exact terms of the vow is unclear.

[@inkchariot6147]

Miquella: Throw the fight and I'll give you a kiss.

[@raz522]

Mogh was the actual victim

[@matiasluukkanen7718]

Mohg kidnapped surgeons, his palace is full of his victims turned into blood zombies, and he serves Outer God of wounds, suffering and pain. Mohg is still evil. Idea with Miquella is that both good and evil people are as easy to manipulate by him.

[@anon_148]

Nah Mohg was chill stop the slander. The guys who supported him were all chill. Varre and the knight in the DLC. Malenia's followers were hopeless simps. Miquella's were actual slaves or psychos. Radahn's were also good people. Ranni's also only simps and psychos. You can tell who was a good person or not by the people who follow them

[@nseven1117]

"heart stolen" you can't steal what's already yours!

[@jdiona]

Miquella: Wait…then what am I stealing?

[@NoCranberry]

you disappoint me

[@nseven1117]

@@NoCranberry I regret nothing

[@alifhafizbinjasni5644]

They should gave us alternate ending for this. They just died to us

[@alalmalal]

If it happens/you let it happen 10 losses in a row, like the st trina quest

[@partogihutapea8632]

Miquella is like evil Galadriel.

[@DeathMessenger1988]

Which fits into the themes of Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones AND Berserk perfectly. ...MIYAZAKI, YOU HACK! XD

[@legadomerrick5301]

All of us always argue about strength, skill, power, technique and we argue about who is the strongest the most powerful but Miquella's power goes beyond all that, he surpasses the physical and even the magical because he does not need to be more powerful to defeat you an that is an extremely broken and dangerous power... He will not need to be stronger to defeat you, because you will simply stop being an enemy, you will no longer want to fight, nor oppose, you will join him and you will love him, And while you look at his smile the luminous seed his power infects your soul and steals your heart, filling you with the sweet warmth of a false peace, a false love for him... It is simply terrifying.

[@Borderlines]

Whoa awesome interaction. I never thought they would make Miquella's unique power into a gameplay mechanic

[@kauaichan]

The darkest implications here for me, is Marika/Radagon doing this to poor Rennala….when they left her as a husk of a person….

[@kwamemwangs2173]

They don't have miquella's ability

[@kauaichan]

@@kwamemwangs2173 No, but they did have an amber egg that bewitched her…

[@Relinsander]

"My brother and I saw you across the boss room, and really dig your vibe"

[@aldoleonardo220]

So he's basically a politician with max charisma?

[@eugeneflores6153]

and hot, a dangerous combo

[@aoao3340]

He's still a long way from Senator Armstrong xD

[@masonstewart6232]

@@aoao3340 He lacks the physical strength, which is why he has Radahn in the first place

[@Smith-rb1qf]

Oh that's actually an interesting concept. A boss that can beat you non lethally. I hope Fromsoft can expand on it in future games.

[@alias234]

Rennala would like a word with you >(

[@xiodtensei4149]

The Coffin of Radahn and Miquella kek

[@franciscoramadhan9156]

nahhh 💀💀💀

[@hermit_36]

having your will manipulated like that feels so much worse than getting death blighted.

[@MichaelHo-lo3fp]

Miquella has the power to make you gay which is quite terrifying and the most dangerous

[@ant3910]

he cooked a lot of pink meth

[@Cardbo4rdb0xx]

Freaky ah god

[@alexanderchernyavskiy5011]

It's not gay if it's miquella

[@potatomo9609]

Bold of you to assume I needed to be made gay

[@aguywhodoesntexist]

He makes the guys gay, what does he do to the girls?

[@butterschunkmcdonalds5333]

Plus that OST is absolutely heavenly, Shit got me ascending fr. Fav track in the game next to Elden Beast.

[@MomoKanjaki]

I know right.

[@jean8252]

So Radahn was holding the stars so that his destiny of becoming Miquella's consort wouldn't happen?

[@TonyValdezCeballos]

More like indentured slave it seems

[@franciscoramadhan9156]

Now this is interesting question

[@vergiltheartofpower6616]

Possibly, his also allied with Ranni at one point

[@SeijinOficial]

No, Radahn held the stars to stop the invasion of an alien race called the Astel. As for his relationship with Miquela, everything indicates that Radahn refused or managed to resist Miquela's convincing and adopted his own side of the war. But Miquela really loved Radahn, for him Radahn is a rare and valuable chess piece. So after we kill Radahn, he takes the opportunity to resurrect him on Mogh's corpse and at the same time control it with the enchantment of stealing hearts.

[@TonyValdezCeballos]

@@SeijinOficial I wouldn't call it love, it's more like a one sided obsession.

[@masterkings2271]

0:08 Bro stealing Ranni's Line

[@TonyValdezCeballos]

It would have been great that if you had already gotten the age of Stars Ranni would show up to help you fight back Miquella.

[@eugeneflores6153]

@@TonyValdezCeballos why would Ranni fight back miquella? her only goal is to break Marika's enchantment and leave the land in between

[@yvngvudu]

@@potatertotes is that what you got from the game? media literacy is not your thing.

[@notenoughcalories]

@@eugeneflores6153 Because if Miquella succeed, then in theory, every living being and soul could potentially be under his enchantment. Essential round 2 of some bs under a controlling god. Under that logic, she in theory wouldnt like that, and would fight back

[@eugeneflores6153]

@@notenoughcalories so basically Malenia was quite right when she quoted Miquella as the most fearsome Empyrean. 😎 Miyazaki is based on not doing some UwU cute Disney god.

[@TheNamezZ]

If we consider miquellas abilities and gideons dialogue regarding marikas sorrow and miquellas being part of it…. Did miquella actually steal even marikas heart? And used radagon to try and learn fundamentalist techniques for malenia even though he abandoned them? Crazy implications. Also makes you wonder what exactly he wants and even his counterpart st Trina wants you to kill him. And says what he’s doing is only imprisoning himself. It seems like he just got too deep helping others and he has an obsessive natural desire to help that even makes him turn radahn into a puppet after death. Maybe his “fate” was helping people more directly like saints do he didn’t need to be a god he just had to be him and travel the world using his abilities to help rather than ascending and probably losing his mind as most gods do. Unfortunate story for all gods huh.

[@abdieljove2011]

I get the impression he genuinely wanted to help everyone by creating his Age of Compassion, but became so obsessed he became more and more ruthless and manipulative in how he went about it, sacrificing everything and everyone, including everything about himself that would hold him back. To the point even his other half Saint Trinna is like…he’s gotta die. If they had to make him Griffith, it’s an interesting take. Sacrificing everything for his dream, but a dream born of compassion, not selfishness. A monster born of good intentions.

[@bluejacket4429]

Miquella may have felt subjected to the "cruelty" of the world. I mean hey, if you're born weak and cursed to STAY that way as a child in a world with big scary monsters and big powerful violent relatives, he may have been pretty frustrated at some point and developed a vendetta. Miquella is called wise, and kind. But also Miquella was incredibly smart and learned all sorts of magic. Everything this Miquella is, equips him to be a master manipulator. Absolutely NOTHING in the Lands Between would endear him towards truly loving unconditionally and selflessly as he appears to. In the argument of nature vs nurture, you can be born with certain attributes that make up your character. But so commonly, the environment you are raised in would dictate how you develop. Nobody ever remains the same, at least not internally. The same is true for Miquella. His curse of youth is a pretty perfect and poetic mask for what I just said. Everyone knows him to be harmless, gentle, kind, soft, and loving. But what kind of person holds up like that in such a world? Especially over such a long time, having literally no power over the cruelty and harshness of it all. Clearly Miquella has great ambition and willpower, to be able to learn so much magic. But the magic that he learned and even developed did not have a gentle nature at all, since quite literally he invented discs of light to cut people in half. Miquella is capable of much more than just kindness. So - in his ideal age of compassion, wouldn't it make sense for only the most elegant and kind and most lovable to be the top of the ladder? Miquella never had that before, and could never get to that point with how he was. Everything he is is a stark contrast to the Lands Between. So if he happened to succeed in creating the Age of Compassion, there would be literally no way to trump him, ever. He would be the absolute ultimate. I dunno - he just did a little too much manipulation for me to believe that he was really as nonthreatening and not so sinister as we first thought. But also there is so much poetic irony and rhyme that his character creates for the world of Elden Ring. It'd be too good of an opportunity and too original to make him that way.

[@madfox7758]

I'm going to use a very famous quote. Hell is paid with good intentions.

[@TheNamezZ]

@@bluejacket4429 I agree as well. His age of compassion probably would’ve been stealing everyone’s hearts. Thats why to me the perfected golden order with no greater will and rannis ending are the best options. Ranni basically decided to be a more hands off god while you and her voyaged into the cosmos. Well so we think personally I think this 1000 year voyage miquella and ranni mention is the ascension period from empearyn to god. Miquella was a prodigy like morgott said himself. But yeah he just went about it in the wrong way and he wasn’t really fit to be the god he was claiming he wanted to be. In truth morgott was probably the best morally good god. Or godwyn who was nice to all even enemies. They never invaded other territories and just kept the integrity of leyendell. Morgott did seem a bit racist but he was truly kingly. But makes you wonder just how many of the demigods and gods did miquella have under his charm? And was Melina also charmed by him and used to do his bidding? A lot of questions but 1 thing is sure is that none of the gods were fit to truly rule that goes for fiction and real life.

[@redheadsilver8041]

@@bluejacket4429 The LB would have had to have to have waited for a new fallings star beast (at least a 1000 years, easily), a new Elden Beast, to "free" the LB from Miquella's absolute grasp and put in it the GW's grasp again, only for the process of liberation from the GW to start all over again.

[@attacker-2]

My jaw dropped when this happened, Miquella I'll be your consort

[@anon_148]

he already has a consort, get ready for 1000 years of NTR by Radahn, simp

[@teagus_Kahn]

Terrifying indeed that little boy is truly the most fearsome thing there is

[@pelosithiago3718]

People say that this is the worst final boss of fromsoftware, but we have received what we asked, prime radahn and miquella

[@chef416]

Yeah but it's no secret that this could have been much better without pandering to fans asking for a prime Radahn fight. It didn't ruin the DLC or anything, but I was very disappointed getting this far just to see Radahn as the boss again instead of something actually interesting.

[@ShrimpEmporium]

@@chef416 From a lore perspective it's a wee bit disappointing, sure. But have you done the fight? It's one of the most fun fights in the dlc, second only to Bayle, and prob in the top 8ish of elden ring as a whole.

[@chef416]

​@@ShrimpEmporium Yeah I've done it I just didn't really think it was that fun, way too over the top and it just wasn't the kind of difficulty I enjoy in a boss. I thought Bayle was good but my 2 favorites were Messmer and Midra by far.

[@ShrimpEmporium]

@@chef416 Fair.

[@franciscoramadhan9156]

@@chef416 ngl midra is really fun, close to malenia's "make mistake and you lose" but easier and more rewarding for risk taker

[@ПетрРу-д5й]

Would be cool if you have frenzied flame eyes, that wouldn’t work

[@DrnMontemayor]

Technically, it would work regardless, as Miquella's whole thing is that he can block the influence of other gods. That's what the quest to get the Needle establishes in the base game, from the Ailing Village where you find the first clue, to the sewer descent where it's more explicitly mentioned. And a bit less relevant, in cut content, the song the merchants play, is the song of St. Trina, and playing it eases the pain of the Frenzied Flame on them.

[@ПетрРу-д5й]

@@DrnMontemayor wow I didn’t know it

[@WI-FI_GOD]

Dam I’m learning all kinds of new shiet in this comment section 😂

[@blacktigerpaw1]

​@@DrnMontemayorMiquella's golden needle will work against the Frenzied Flame if you're in the early throes of it. If you are fully committed, it is confirmed it cannot be excised. If you're a Lord of Frenzied Flame, Miquella's golden needles are useless.

[@MuraCasardis]

@blacktigerpaw1 what they mean is that his whole power and goal is to block the influence of outer gods. In his current god-like form, a direct whisper to compel you is probably much stronger than his needle.

[@zestyraccoon813]

Whats crazy is that this is an actual ending and not a death. Miquella bends you to his will and you stand by as his age comes to pass.

[@mannilorenz9008]

"These are the roots of our world. Men are props on the stage of life, and no matter how tender, how exquisite… A lie will remain a lie. Young Hollow, knowing this, do you still desire peace?" -Aldia, scholar of the first sin.

[@Kookahats]

There is a way to dispel Miquella's mark. An item dropped by a boss within the Shadow Keep. Isn't it curious we haven't seen hide, nor hair of Miquella's own Great Rune?

[@Medicalguy]

I'm guessing he used it to reincarnate. After leaving his literal body parts all over the Shadow Realm.

[@Milliondollarcup]

I can see why and how mogh was manipulated by Miquella now

[@Dumb343]

I think we all owe mogh an apology now.

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

Nope

[@ninjanda69]

It’s wild seeing someone not get two shot in this dlc, must be nice

[@franciscoramadhan9156]

just don't ng+7

[@caixo5604]

scadutree blessings already do the trick

[@DeathMessenger1988]

So, based on what I'm reading and seeing, Miquella is basically like a mix of Celebrimbor & Sauron in Shadow of War: take over the world with kindness enhanced with mystical charisma and mind control. Well... at least it's no Eclipse of Midland. 🤷‍♂ But I love that Trina outright says that doing so would inevitably corrupt him. You can definitely see Tolkien and Martins' themes and Miyazaki's Beserk motifs mingling in this story, and that's awesome. Miquella clearly did all these "necessary evils" for the sake of his Age of Compassion with full intent of fixing them once he ascended, but the fact still remains that countless died as a result and that his utopia is still built on manipulation and coercion. There's a point where all "necessary evils" add up until they cancel out all the "greater good" one seeks to build. I haven't played the DLC yet, but I'm curious on what Radahn's own motivations were across this whole story. Did he make that "promise" to Miquella himself or Trina (assuming she has existed as long as Miquella has)? Was it all just to protect Ranni, or did he also have the same sentiment as Trina that godhood is a curse that would corrupt him and/or Miquella as well as Ranni? Or did he also feel that Miquella was becoming too radical in his methods? It's interesting that Ranni herself never comments on Miquella as far as I'm aware. Was she aware of ANY of this at all? That would certainly explain why her "Age of Stars" is her leaving the Lands Between rather actively ruling it. What was Marika's angle in all of this? Because, as pointed out before, Marika clearly had something to do with Ranni stealing the Rune of Death and Miquella seemed awfully well-prepared for the Shattering... Goddamnit Miyazaki, stop overloading our brains with all these theories and questions!!! 🤣

[@alq8879]

Much of the inspiration of the lore is from Berserk the manga/anime series. Miquella draws many parallels to Griffith, and his charm.

[@dadevi]

Miyazaki name dropped The Eternal Champion. In sunmary, the series is set in many different universes in a multiverse where a champion always rises up to save the day. Unfortunately, the tool he relies on untimately betrays him and corrupts him. Miyazaki is saying those who fight for power will ultimately be corrupted by it.

[@DeathMessenger1988]

@@alq8879 Miyazaki must have created 10 or so characters in Soulsborne games so far that look like Griffith, so that's not really surprising. Vaati Vidya and other people were theorizing on that for a long time. Personally, the fact that Miquella "just" wants to brainwash people to make the world peaceful and compassionate rather than some twisted demonic mass sacrifice to make himself a dark god who sunders the world (something Shabriri, Godrick, Mohg or Rykard would probably do) is a mild relief. Still very condemnable, mind you, but if the choice came down to Assassin's Creed Templar Order versus the fucking Godhand or Warhammer's Chaos Gods, safe to say most people would pick the faction that ISN'T the embodiment of evil, war, pestilence and rape.

[@TheAdorelis]

pick one a thousand year voyage under the wisdom of the moon or a thousand year voyage guided by "compassion"

[@eye776]

And so, what was borrowed must be returned. Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame. 🤣

[@spencerfoote6977]

Moon

[@alfalldoot6715]

MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD

[@nightscout9979]

A four-armed person who causes lots of deaths and has an army of slaves vs. a four-armed person who causes lots of deaths and has an army of slaves. How about the Mending Rune of Perfect Order instead? Goldmask has the best chance of creating a world that has no system of corrupt, fickle gods, no curses, and full accountability for corrupt actions. That rune protects free will and actually heals the world too.

[@ruchagoddessofpurgatory8513]

Hmmmm... Dark Moonussy or Golden Bussy...

[@Shaveicrainbow]

The gesture at the end is the same as when get ranni ending and she asks you to go with her. So... Miquella's going keep us as his sidepiece? Well I don't mind that.

[@0mg814]

Oh that explains so much… from his followers to mogh to the official ER account saying how he ‘compels’ his effection

[@E0nW0lf]

I love how Radahn lowers his sword slowly once Miquella insta kills you like he knows its over.

[@KittyPittyMeowmeow]

such a cool mechanic

[@sirshisram9374]

how so?

[@KittyPittyMeowmeow]

@@sirshisram9374 there's never been any other attack in the FS games where if you get hit twice by it during a fight, you just instantly die. Even curse/death debuff wear off over time

[@sirshisram9374]

@@KittyPittyMeowmeow ahh okay, cool.

[@AuroraBoost]

I like it too, forces you to be more careful when fighting him

[@the_invincible8494]

​@@KittyPittyMeowmeowUnderwhelming af This hug should be an instant kill

[@SuperDragonBlader]

Lose in a "special" way, and you get a "special" gesture. After that, you can try again. I was afraid it was gonna be game over or something. Lol Edit: Miquella steals hearts? Then... he must be... a PHANTOM THIEF!

[@taylan5579]

whole dlc map is just miquella's palace lol

[@BknMoonStudios]

*♪ YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COOOOMIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!! ♫*

[@pewpewplasma3793]

It is kinda remarkable to me that our character is so steadfast in their conviction that a god has to put that much effort into turning us to their side. I mean it’s definitely for gameplay reasons, but it’s such a testament to our Tarnished who for all intents and purposes is just some guy

[@Winterfang]

This make me rethink the red Albinaurics. I used to think they came to rescue miquella and got sadly corrupted by the formless mother. But now it seems they came to rescue miquella but the spell got undone and they decided to worship the formless mother

[@janinebelleestrada7096]

Miquella can steal my heart anytime. He's a cutie.

[@Narwhyn]

reel :3

[@jaegarny5051]

Maybe this is what killing with kindness looks like

[@ruchagoddessofpurgatory8513]

"Tarnished go down! If you lose I'll sit on your face!"

[@anon_148]

Turbo gay, hell no. Marika however could probably make anyone submit by saying that( probably what she actually did lol)

[@mischievousone9999]

It’s like if galadriel took the one ring All will love me and despair

[@alalmalal]

This looks wayyy better than the leak. See what happens cinematically with good lighting and no mimic tear?

[@AuroraBoost]

It was just a very loud minority crying about it. Also they hate that their "gigachad" Radahn was sus all along

[@MichaelHo-lo3fp]

Some of them were exaggerating as well because of supposedly how bad this dlc is by saying they would uninstall the game

[@luxsuperbia1531]

@@AuroraBoost he isn't actually Miquella ordered Malenia to kill him because Radahn rejected him, in the dlc he rebuilds him as a mind controlled flesh golem (with Mohg's body)

[@Ratscracher]

​@@luxsuperbia1531 Freja's armour set description says she was one of Radahn's most trusted followers. After the charm is broken she still trusts Miquella with Radahn. The vow was mutual agreement between Miquella, Malenia and Radahn. The agreement was that Malenia would fight Radahn to satisfy his love for war and in exchange he'd be Miquella’s consort.

[@eugeneflores6153]

@@luxsuperbia1531 There's no confirm lore that he rejects him though

[@dadevi]

Miquella's charm would work the same as Marika's golden grace. Everyone not charmed by Miquella would be eliminated or exiled. Scary thought. He was literally copy/pasting his mom's textbook on how to rule.

[@unstoppableboy5299]

Miquella practically turned us gay

[@tooru-kun4178]

Miquella is so strong that made my lesbian married with a doll tarnished heterosexuals

[@zaidlacksalastname4905]

"the most fearsome empyrean" -Malenia, a pretty fearsome emperyan herself

[@The94Venom]

There's no way Radahn was willing to honor his vow if Malenia had to rot nuke him to oblivion to get him to Miquella. Especially considering that Radahn STILL resisted the rot years after the fact.

[@lonelyporo873]

Agreed, it just doesn't make sense. And their defense just by miq quote wich is can be a lie as we know who he is now

[@ant3910]

He probably thought Radahn would eventually died from the rot, but turns out he just went insane. Malenia is desperate but obviously not careless enough to screwing Miquella’s plan by nuking Caelid

[@crew_the3rd]

Miquella is the best option for the Lands Between. Formsoft characters are never 100% moral, nor innocent, nor perfect. But Miquella is the closest thing to a good ruler that has ever been offered to the Lands Between. His methods are the most reasonable compared to the wrath, hatred, prejudice, and blood lust of all other rulers. Including us, the tarnished, we are the bad guys in this war too, our path would destroy the Lands' only hope for lasting compassionate peace. Miquella's great rune charm is an overall positive power. The charm helps people let go of the evil within; if someone wanted revenge they can now settle for forgiveness, if someone was prejudice they can now tolerate others, and if someone had lust for blood shed they can now seek love. Miquella brought out the best version of each person, gave them love, and gave them hope. During our fight we had the power to resist Miquella's charm and so do many other characters like Messmer. There still is a choice to reject Miquella but 99% of people will be more attracted to what he offers than what they currently have, most people will agree with Miquella, because what he offers is valuable to them. Haters try to simply this process to simple brainwashing but it is not that crude nor sinister. Mohg wanted Miquella to bring the mother of blood dynasty, Miquella offered him something better. To assume that Mohg is innocent of kidnapping Miquella is a not necessarily. Two things can be true, at the same time, with these complex characters. Mohg was all about blood sacrifices so it's possible that he is ok with helping Miquella in this way, to be the vessel of Radahn's spirit, this is not a tragic end. Radahn was a proud and powerful warrior. By his standards he could not simply die, he had to die in glorious battle. Miquella tried to satisfy this honor by asking Malenia to go to war with Radahn, they were both too powerful for each other, so stalemate persisted until the tarnished rose. Miquella then sent Melina to persuade a tarnished to help in his plans. Most of the work had been done my Malenia and we come to finish off Radahn in honorable battle. Long ago Radahn promised to be lord and consort to Miquella. The reign of Miquella has all the good aspects of the Golden Order but with out the shunning of the graceless. Miquella extends grace and blessing to all in the Lands. Radahn would find it easy to support Miquella's Order because it is just a better version of the Golden Order. His loyalty would remain. consistent. Haters of Miquella will see these events in a sinister filter, this is unreasonable because there is a more honorable way to except what Miquella planned. Each one of these characters have good reasons to give Miquella a chance, the Charm helps but it's a positive help, not sinister. When Miquella divulged his love, it was specifically his love of self that died. He is still clearly able to love Radahn and showing compassion to an entire kingdom clearly communicates love. Saint Trina seeks to protect Miquella from the bondage of being a deity, that is self-love. Miquella had to let go of what was good for himself to obtain the power to serve everyone in his kingdom. Clearly he has sacrificed just as much as his flowers sacrificed to obtain compassion, leading by example.

[@the_infinexos]

Its scary to think this might've been what happened to Mohg. None of the thoughts of Miquella's supporters may be their own, who knows how far his charm has spread?

[@franciscoramadhan9156]

you ever watch the anime seven deadly sins? there is a reason the demon lord scared of gowther because he has the same power as miquella

[@WI-FI_GOD]

If I beat the game and go with rannis ending I should be rewarded with item that looks like a cape but it’s not a cape It’s ranni hanging on me just like Miquella is on Radahn Simp mode activated

[@anon_148]

except Ranni is a cold b*tch and would never do that lol, if you simp for her expecting her to do stuff like that you got played big time

[@deaththekid7626]

Soo.....We Owe Radahn AND Mohg an Apology...Cause One...We Literally handed Radahn on a Silver Platter to Miquella and We Killed Mohg Just soo He could reborn Radahn

[@vansserafim]

If he puts a first stack for the 2nd time, he has a different voice line.

[@noscarsontheback]

when you put all your stat points in charisma

[@kuro_kishi]

Miquella used Attract. The Tarnished fell in love. The Tarnished is attracted to Miquella. The Tarnished is immobilized by love. The Tarnished fainted.

[@KingOfMalevolence]

People need to stop assuming everyone is being controlled by Miquella. Most of the NPCs that followed him still remained loyal after the spell was undone, i think it's fair to say not everyone that follows Miquella does it unwillingly.

[@anon_148]

no? he literally charms even those loyal to him.

[@ginew07]

Radahn with feet, and goofy little Leonard is nowhere to be seen, that’s actually kinda badass, and Radahn/Miquella are like Lorian/Lothric :00

[@todd3143]

this boss is straight out of convergence

[@celphalonred1999]

"Get your lips.....off my helmet" ☝️

[@thatoneguyfromhs4944]

That is terrifying on a whole other level

[@ShikiRyougi05]

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT MOVE DOES!? Fuck...this is amazing!

[@puella9632]

I owe Mohg a big apology

[@zanesy6250]

Whats funny is the concept of turning people into controllable puppets was already a thing with the Sorcerers.

[@adrianodeabreu5562]

and to think that Radahn was the only one to resist Miquella's mind control, maybe that's why Miquella has an obsessive passion for him since he is immune to the power of mind control, something like falling in love with exactly the only person who doesn't Either way, or maybe he just fell for the charms of Radahn, who was always referred to as the most fair, honorable, etc., etc.

[@AuroraBoost]

Well he did end up falling for him so him resisting doesn't mean much

[@adrianodeabreu5562]

​@@AuroraBoostreally, but at least Radahn's resistance to Miquella's power was what allowed him to oppose him when he started acting like Ranni to become a god, I think Radahn just didn't count on Miquella's obsessive love to arrive to the point of killing him and using his soul to create a living puppet just to have him by his side

[@franciscoramadhan9156]

It's either radahn get's charmed in the first place or it's genuine

[@caixo5604]

I don't think Miquella was actually in love with Radahn, I think the consort thing is just god-politics

[@franciscoramadhan9156]

@@caixo5604 ofc, he wants to be a god and it requires consort, and so he choses the most powerful of them all. Just like Marika marries Godfrey

[@xSean0607]

So ib the end Miquella wanted Radahn to shatter his holy bussy like Marika shattered the elden ring. Heckin wholesome

[@caixo5604]

Talking seriously, I think the consort thing is just politics, I don't think Miquella is actually capable of falling in love

[@kizhe240]

@@caixo5604 Nah, him casting side his love is what St. Trina is. Also, as far as I understand it, miquella's curse is in body and mind. Which makes this even more tragic ngl. He looked up to Radahn due to his strength and compassion, and probably just wanted him forever by his side, like how a lot of children probably look up to older siblings. Which means every action he does is pure. He probably is not lying about his age of compassion. The world would probably have less suffering in it under miquella's rule then any other ending we can get. (Besides frenzy flame because.. you burned everything). There's a good chance that not even he fully understands his power.

[@dominicpygn9398]

Rizzin us the way Ranni did, really be tugging at my heartstrings.

[@alfalldoot6715]

Ranni's rizz vs Miquella's sexual harassment

[@lobardodelainternet4253]

Now I know why Malenia cheated against Radahn. She would not accept defeat from anyone who fucked with her brother, even her half-siblings.

[@ronaldbibi209]

damn talking no jutsu got you bro lol

[@cobaltprime9467]

He makes you want the divine bussy. Whether you like it or not.

[@Rishant-vw8gk]

" you gay now " ahh move💀

[@bastienmonet4841]

that's cool concept wow

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

And instakill grab is a cool concept?

[@lovemachine5151]

I didn't know you got a gesture dying that way

[@berrie572]

Nah bro. Radahn give me the gorgeous femboy now, I need him

[@chavitacarranza]

GIVE IT BACK

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

Just like Griffith in Berserk who charms people with very feminine-esque charms despite being a male, huh

[@treebusettt]

seriously it's like Griffith using Guts for dirty work .. beautifull male Miquella / Griffith 🤮🤮🤮

[@nhatnotverified9892]

malenia made radahn go craze, miquella made him go gay

[@rysspace2511]

Miquella the tickla

[@andrewaldrich3602]

I can’t be the only one who likes this fight better than the base games radahn right?

[@KaiKrimson56]

​@gamesstarthereYou can compare them for the same reasons people compared Iudex Gundyr to Champion Gundyr from Dark Souls 3.

[@cosmickeks]

This is the really need to final with Radahn and Miquella in the game end. Like a final with Renny. With a cutscene.

[@gabriels1931]

So its basically dahmer except the eating part

[@mr.brokendreams9721]

Justice for Mohg, Mohg was always innocent we were bamboozled by Miquella and the lie he pasted on our faces.

[@zacharyhawley1693]

Oh god. He has a two hit kill 😮

[@mahiganti]

Miquella's just like that Chainsaw man villain

[@arosdeco1629]

Elden Ring: Shadow of Boku no Pico.

[@migs192]

Whuuuut?! Definitely will try this.

[@Bashbekersjiw]

Griffith and guts