Miriam Feldman | We Should NOT Reject Traditional Masculinity (2/6) | Oxford Union

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@OxfordUnion
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Watch the full debate here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ3Qaa2Yrch6d5o
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@ephraimjustice8649 3 жыл бұрын
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@johnharvey4448
@johnharvey4448 5 жыл бұрын
True. We should not reject traditional masculinity. Men and women are different and that should be celebrated, not denigrated.
@NotJulius44
@NotJulius44 2 жыл бұрын
no truer words could have been used
@crocfixio
@crocfixio 5 жыл бұрын
respect to the speaker..but this shouldnt be a debate to begin with..men have the right to be as masculine as they want without asking for society's permission.
@oovirusooo
@oovirusooo 5 жыл бұрын
You can’t define what toxic is
@japooskas
@japooskas 5 жыл бұрын
Lulz at the two beta males above wanting to mould others just because they themselves wont ever be alphas .. keep debating your toxicities you feeble morons. ( im sure youll find this as a toxic cliche of masculinity - deal with it, betas )
@palestinevideos2025
@palestinevideos2025 5 жыл бұрын
@@rinkiakepapa5625 no such thing as toxic masculinity. Just masculinity, with feminine beta males and feminists crying about it. Then afterwards the feminist fucks one of those masculine alpha males because she's disgusted by the friend zoned beta males who follow her around and agree with her anyway.
@akhilbhargava3933
@akhilbhargava3933 5 жыл бұрын
@@rinkiakepapa5625 yes just like toxic femininity
@Jide-bq9yf
@Jide-bq9yf 5 жыл бұрын
crocfixio it’s just crazy ; this showboating of our inner worlds .
@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive
@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive 5 жыл бұрын
Interactions between humans will never improve much as long as we don't discuss the toxic portions of femininity too. To pretend that there aren't any toxic elements of femininity is akin to saying that there are no toxic elements to masculinity which many would deem comical at best. There is a reason that domestic abuse amongst lesbian women is higher than their straight counterparts, something the anti-male types conveniantly forget and or ignore. The issue is that the term toxic masculinity is too vague. What do people mean when they say that phrase? They rarely make it clear. Assertiveness? Emotional Strength? When the phrase 'toxic masculinity' is used they are casting the net extremely wide. That needs to change. There are good sides to masculinity just as there are good sides to femininity. Laziness in speech is the problem. Be precise in your speech, everyone.
@user-ub8oi7oh3r
@user-ub8oi7oh3r 5 жыл бұрын
Domestic abuse in lesbian women isn’t higher. Before you make up facts learn how to spell. Toxic femininity is never not discussed. We are always talking about how damaging beauty standards/femininity standards are. Toxic femininity is and always has been extensively debated. It’s toxic masculinity that’s the problem. It’s causing mental health issues to become so common among men, and the pressures the idea of being masculine causes men/boys to deteriorate.
@roberjohnsmith
@roberjohnsmith 5 жыл бұрын
If that were true then why is it that 70 years ago when men were waaaaaay more masculine and more to toxicly masculine were suicide rates so much lower and mental disorders much lower in men? When toxic masculinity is discussed, it almost seems interchangeable with the term historical masculinity, we are told by modern feminist theory that men of old from that time were much more toxic than today. They were old fashioned and beat their wives and spanked their kids and had much more emphasis on "being a man" and yet all of those symptoms you listed were conditions of modern society in the modern man. Since you seem very intelligent I would like for you to describe specifically what is toxic masculinity so that I can better understand. Because as the op pointed out laziness in speech and lack of specifics is really muddying the waters and I hear a different explanation of what toxic masculinity is depending on who I'm talking to. Most often though it's described to me as old school masculinity, the emphasis on being a man a suckling it up and being strong and not showing emotion. That type of stuff is my understanding of toxic masculinity but maybe there is something I don't understand. Whether or not I am grasping the concept properly is a result of these varying definitions and lack of specific speech. So specifically, if you can help me out, what is toxic masculinity?
@roberjohnsmith
@roberjohnsmith 5 жыл бұрын
I would also argue that the beauty standards portrayed in modern society are a result of normalization of pornography and marketing campaigns rather than toxic femininity. I believe a bunch of men and women sitting in board rooms with psychology and marketing degrees figured out how to sell people things in a more strategic way. I don't know how you could say that is toxic feminity. I think of believe if toxic feminity were a thing, which I don't really believe, but if it were a thing I would say girls gossiping about other girls is a big one. Being nice to your face and talking behind your back. A man holding a door for a woman and a woman responding "I don't need help from a man", I would say that is toxic feminity. But I mean in reality I don't believe that, I just believe that's an example of somebody being rude and unhinged which I think both sexes are capable of. Either way I don't think my perception of toxic feminity really even matters because these terms are so new and haven't been clearly defined by anybody so I can't say I buy into any of it until there is clear and concise definition. When that happens then I think honest discussions and debates can be had.
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher 5 жыл бұрын
Femininity is NEVER toxic. Feminism is ALWAYS toxic.
@MrSpiritchild
@MrSpiritchild 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheWorldTeacher Well put.
@rishi2791
@rishi2791 5 жыл бұрын
I am here for the feminity of the speaker... Intelligence and grace in equal proportions exist in her.
@kaiser98berlin
@kaiser98berlin 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the equal proportions reflects well in her eloqual speech. Upright, well nourished and no less equal to others.
@pratikshatiwari7011
@pratikshatiwari7011 2 жыл бұрын
She posses some masculine traits too. Like getting educated and speaking in public is often associated to masculine traits. Good thing is that she has it all balanced.
@TusharSharma-cy9xo
@TusharSharma-cy9xo 2 жыл бұрын
@@pratikshatiwari7011 you're just a jealous whamen
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn 2 жыл бұрын
@@pratikshatiwari7011 Getting educated is a human trait, not a masculine one. Her feminine characteristics completely overshadow her masculine ones, and rightly so.
@pratikshatiwari7011
@pratikshatiwari7011 2 жыл бұрын
@@Grandmaster_Dragonborn no it's a masculine trait according to trads. And she is not at home and she is outside which is also masculine trait.
@MrJustonemorevoice
@MrJustonemorevoice 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you guys can sit here and debate this all day. It makes no difference to me. I'm a man. I work, I cook, I fight, I hunt, I build, I groom, and whatever else I want to so long as I don't hurt anyone. Just know that less stable men are the ones suffering as they do listen to you and are killing themselves to live up to your standards.
@ManlyServant
@ManlyServant 2 жыл бұрын
what you are saying have never worked to create any society,to fulfill the earth,or to multiply humanity,therefore it doesnt make difference to humanity,it only makes difference to a SELFISH like you traditional gender roles is what makes every real society,the real succesful society,mgtow doesnt create society that is better,nor it is able to,nor feminism,both of them is a bunch of selfish-lovers and gender-haters that gives more harm than goodness for us,this is not just traditional standard,this is GOD'S standard,husband is to be provider,woman is to be homemaker,you can be selfish all you want,it doesnt make any difference to humanity,until you NEEDED humanity to rescue you when you are an elder
@DonG-1949
@DonG-1949 2 ай бұрын
bottleneck event
@safwaan131
@safwaan131 5 жыл бұрын
She's the most reasonable of them all.
@chevchelios3904
@chevchelios3904 5 жыл бұрын
I concur (•_ㅅ_•)0:36 😈
@Manish_Kumar_Singh
@Manish_Kumar_Singh 5 жыл бұрын
What an elegant way to waste time
@kimlabuschagne6923
@kimlabuschagne6923 5 жыл бұрын
Manish Kumar Singh 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😂🤣
@Diddy1970AD
@Diddy1970AD 5 жыл бұрын
@ Manish Kumar Singh. Agree with you, probably a lot of time wasted there.
@Yourveryowncarrot
@Yourveryowncarrot 4 жыл бұрын
This is the attitude of someone who probably knows nothing.
@vinnycrism
@vinnycrism 4 жыл бұрын
@@Yourveryowncarrot And lots of others to support the impunity
@SAGKavin
@SAGKavin 5 жыл бұрын
Women with good self esteem will surely like masculinity. Men and women are fulfillment to each other. It's like connecting SATA cable to SATA socket. Off topic: She looks heavenly.
@gusgone4527
@gusgone4527 5 жыл бұрын
Miss Feldman certainly brings out my traditional masculinity and traits.
@LightYagami-wt1jw
@LightYagami-wt1jw 5 жыл бұрын
Mine too
@alpharomeo1772
@alpharomeo1772 5 жыл бұрын
Whatever is the conclusion of the debate real men don’t care. I can’t stop being a man if some over jealous feminists don’t like it. Real women like real men and in return men love and protect their ladies.
@vanillacherub6847
@vanillacherub6847 4 жыл бұрын
Yes thankyou.
@naadiyamxmed8717
@naadiyamxmed8717 3 жыл бұрын
The kind of man that I want
@saff376
@saff376 2 жыл бұрын
must women be protected? why do you infantilise them so much?
@zm35r2bn
@zm35r2bn Жыл бұрын
And make them go woo hoo not one of these women have been with a real man okay let's just get that right in the bedroom I'm guessing there's not a lot of woohoo I just have to say it because the whole thing about masculinity it just oh my God please get a subject that's what we're talking about leave the boys and the man alone I leave the women alone too would you and leave everybody have their Sports gosh get out of the way we don't want men in our Sports and no we don't want to call people sis and miss and Suey and we don't know all those stupid names it's just he and her
@BOZ_11
@BOZ_11 5 жыл бұрын
She says masculinity can be leveraged for progress, speaking as a woman and from a woman's perspective. Male masculinity is quite frankly whatever men want it to be, but increasingly are confused about how to express their innate masculinity because of the abject absence of masculine role models in the home and in the media
@simplyclever2503
@simplyclever2503 2 жыл бұрын
My Respect And Love For This Queen📈
@Indian_meme_templates
@Indian_meme_templates 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm here for her speech.
@MrSpiritchild
@MrSpiritchild 4 жыл бұрын
I would state for the record, a man that wasn't getting his way so would result to force out of insecurity is not displaying toxic masculinity, he is being a child that needs to grow up and isn't being masculine at all.
@billrhoasts5456
@billrhoasts5456 5 жыл бұрын
Look around you. Everything you see was built by MEN. And the freedoms we enjoy were fought for, bled for, and died for by men. And all of this was and is made possible by traditional masculinity. To me, this is self evident. Women wanted rights and they got them, but never really had to bleed for them. They lobbied for them. Protested for them. Demanded them, but never REALLY fought, bled, or died for them. They just stayed home and let the men go off and fight. Now the subject of whether we should embrace or reject the traditional masculinity that secured us our rights is being debated. The world really has gone crazy.
@isaacalzate8262
@isaacalzate8262 3 жыл бұрын
Lets not act like woman havent bleed for freedom either my guy
@TheDevildarkness
@TheDevildarkness 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaacalzate8262 they bleed at least once a month lol
@AmanatAdilkyzy
@AmanatAdilkyzy 2 жыл бұрын
Stupiddd
@ManlyServant
@ManlyServant 2 жыл бұрын
@@isaacalzate8262 they bleed once a month (haid) and they gave us men later then
@grxciee3671
@grxciee3671 10 ай бұрын
Women did suffer and fight for their cause google is free!! Suffragettes literally used violent protest and got imprisoned and force fed/tortured in prison in the 1900s u moron
@paradisebreeze1705
@paradisebreeze1705 4 жыл бұрын
Why are we even having this debate?
@surajchowdhury1927
@surajchowdhury1927 3 жыл бұрын
Who is here after seeing the thumbnail😂😂
@Jide-bq9yf
@Jide-bq9yf 5 жыл бұрын
What a load of deranged tosh . Teach boys to treat people with respect and gentleness . And teach girls the same thing too . As a general rule Just be yourself without infringing on the freedom of others . But above all stop politicising every single facet of human life .
@kishoretejaswi1948
@kishoretejaswi1948 5 жыл бұрын
Well said
@hugoc1861
@hugoc1861 5 жыл бұрын
They descomsider moral religious teachings
@BigBadJoojoo
@BigBadJoojoo 5 жыл бұрын
It's difficult to have public schooling without the politicization of education, especially when the vast majority of educators stack up on one side of the political aisle.
@Hawkeye19821
@Hawkeye19821 5 жыл бұрын
@@BigBadJoojoo No I disagree. Even if 90 percent of teachers are on the left it doesn't mean they have to let that influence how they teach. At the very least they should still be able to tolerate a view that isn't theirs. If they can't then they shouldn't be teachers.
@alexojideagu
@alexojideagu 5 жыл бұрын
@@hugoc1861 Religion has poor morality
@deepakgoyal483
@deepakgoyal483 5 жыл бұрын
I m here coz of THUMBNAIL 👈😂😂
@orbojunglist
@orbojunglist 5 жыл бұрын
Reject what you like, but it's naive to assume this will not have negative outcomes for both men and women, and that 'masculinity' will just listen and 'go away' where the hell will it go? nowhere, it will just be repressed, and that can't be any healthier than so called toxic masculinity.
@shihabkr5728
@shihabkr5728 3 жыл бұрын
Who is here after seeing Norrie Abbas ❤️❤️❤️
@AST4EVER
@AST4EVER 5 жыл бұрын
Damnnnn.... She's a WISE girl.... Bravo 👏👏
@indiahxzl9757
@indiahxzl9757 4 жыл бұрын
So basically all she said was that men shouldnt be forced into dominant positions and/or use violence to get there if pressured by society. Also that traditional masculinity and traditional femininity shouldn't be excluded from society as we should all be allowed to act how we want in terms of societal expectations.
@rohitghumare7515
@rohitghumare7515 5 жыл бұрын
I see the reason why this is in my recommendations , two reasons
@elsaluvsnutella
@elsaluvsnutella 5 жыл бұрын
Autismo Maximo seriously 😂😂
@ericday4505
@ericday4505 5 жыл бұрын
Yes they are very perky.
@seymourlife9860
@seymourlife9860 5 жыл бұрын
i want to grasp on those reasons
@venusbansal
@venusbansal 5 жыл бұрын
It take few seconds to get this comment.
@karanvohra3535
@karanvohra3535 5 жыл бұрын
Reason is unclear
@MrrrMagoo
@MrrrMagoo 5 жыл бұрын
Lady Greensleeves (Miriam), she has two very noticeable qualities...that is, she is both Intelligent and Articulate! :) Regarding her physical attributes, she does have two big beautiful...kind eyes and beautiful long hair!
@syedayan2608
@syedayan2608 5 жыл бұрын
u forget to mention that firm and round boobs😂😂
@jenimarai1906
@jenimarai1906 5 жыл бұрын
What a Toxicity of subtle Pervertness.! Fuck off...
@kalashnikov5544
@kalashnikov5544 5 жыл бұрын
@@jenimarai1906 Calm down. Nothing wrong with complimenting a woman's figure. Women do it all the time with men they're attracted to.
@ilex161
@ilex161 5 жыл бұрын
@@kalashnikov5544 and when we do that ,men called us sluts :')
@hackbaba999
@hackbaba999 5 жыл бұрын
@@ilex161 So What, You call men pervert and men call women slut. It Evens Out.
@brucelomax3375
@brucelomax3375 5 жыл бұрын
THANK-YOU, THANK-you, thank-you, for your permission. Yeah, right.
@heetendrarathor3126
@heetendrarathor3126 5 жыл бұрын
*The speaker in this video is a competitive debater, and therefore the views expressed may not necessarily represent their beliefs.* Why Don't you write this in the description of every debater video, It shows your biases.
@SM-ly5tf
@SM-ly5tf 5 жыл бұрын
The speaker chooses to whether include it or not. It's not the choice of the channel.
@FarhanAmin1994
@FarhanAmin1994 3 жыл бұрын
@@SM-ly5tf i thought so too
@billrhoasts5456
@billrhoasts5456 5 жыл бұрын
What we should be debating is the issue of gynocentrism in our society, not "toxic masculinity".
@adarsh65kumar
@adarsh65kumar 5 жыл бұрын
I watched the whole video, but can't recall a single word she said! Guess my brain was a little too preoccupied with the visuals! 😂😂😂
@thegoat5216
@thegoat5216 5 жыл бұрын
@@rg4252 gay boi
@Pom2.0
@Pom2.0 5 жыл бұрын
Let's legalize freedom of sexual expressions and criminalize violence first.
@krishnamsdhoni
@krishnamsdhoni 5 жыл бұрын
Its like this, masculinity represents the source of something and feminine as the manifestation. just as how the cause that triggered when life is born is the man and the method through which the new born manifests into body is the women. its more leaned towards meaning. strength of man and nurturing of women are just two essential side qualities, the underlying meaning is like source or cause and the method or manifestation. like the fire and the heat, milk and its whiteness etc
@ooLevityoo
@ooLevityoo 4 жыл бұрын
Her outfit won the debate before it started, and everyone knows it.
@OO-qt7ec
@OO-qt7ec 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone said it.
@samcerulean1412
@samcerulean1412 3 жыл бұрын
Wow fantastic speech a voice of reason
@person-centredtherapy-timh9745
@person-centredtherapy-timh9745 5 жыл бұрын
Even the question is loaded. 'Traditional' implies social constructionism. It assumes we are blank slates, at least insofar as the scope of this issue. It makes us think in terms of negotiable roles (wants?) rather than innate niches (needs?). The important question is to what extent can our culture reflect our nature, thereby allowing for individual authenticity, shared values, social harmony and meaning in life? How can we fashion a culture in which both sexes can thrive? Male suicide rates scream that we are not there yet.
@lawmaker22
@lawmaker22 4 жыл бұрын
i dont give a damn what is she talking about, she has my vote
@shahzadshamim9652
@shahzadshamim9652 5 жыл бұрын
You are Intoxicating Miriam 😍
@smalls9852
@smalls9852 2 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic debate. I especially like this speaker. Context is important and we should not just throw out masculinity but work to understand it. There is also rarely any debate about toxic femininity. Which would be quite interesting to watch.
@kamilwiesniak2738
@kamilwiesniak2738 4 жыл бұрын
Where I live, Poland, I can confidently say that in general the women are happier, more respected, more level-headed, more accomplished, more confident AND more feminine than in Britain for example.
@superuberjedimaster
@superuberjedimaster 3 жыл бұрын
Przejebane nazwisko, ale ogólnie zgoda.
@thetruehighlord2320
@thetruehighlord2320 3 жыл бұрын
Humanity will continue to be an enigma to me
@kingofAwsomness
@kingofAwsomness 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's some wild shit, ain't it
@arbindhidang4198
@arbindhidang4198 5 жыл бұрын
Who else come for the perfect sight... Hands up..
@laxmandass6946
@laxmandass6946 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@realsushrey
@realsushrey 5 жыл бұрын
👎
@arbindhidang4198
@arbindhidang4198 5 жыл бұрын
@@realsushrey i m dead sure you only hear audio or may be the transient one 😁🤔
@rahulsingh-lv5xp
@rahulsingh-lv5xp 4 жыл бұрын
Noorie abbas ko dekh oxford
@ProIndiaMovement
@ProIndiaMovement 5 жыл бұрын
The speech... I am speechless Unanimously Hatsoff
@ohrightok9750
@ohrightok9750 5 жыл бұрын
You can debate it all you want. It wont change fuck all. People can and will do whatever they want.
@KurtGodel432
@KurtGodel432 5 жыл бұрын
It’s always the gorgeous women who defend real men.
@ajayaskumar8971
@ajayaskumar8971 5 жыл бұрын
She got 2 beautiful muscles. Lovely girl.
@rg4252
@rg4252 5 жыл бұрын
Pata tha muze... bad comments aayenge hum chutiye Indians ki taraf se....
@foreignbag8861
@foreignbag8861 5 жыл бұрын
Because of you people other indians get trolled 'bob and vagina'.
@kalashnikov5544
@kalashnikov5544 5 жыл бұрын
@@jenimarai1906 Thank the J3wz for trying to invert the sexes and natural biological roles.
@subirnath4229
@subirnath4229 5 жыл бұрын
This is call "achhe din" india.....as expected....bravo fool indians
@ilex161
@ilex161 5 жыл бұрын
Fats not muscles.
@jbhanu2950
@jbhanu2950 3 жыл бұрын
Brain detected, woman accepted
@itdoeshurt
@itdoeshurt 5 жыл бұрын
i am here for that pair
@spencer8440
@spencer8440 5 жыл бұрын
Wtf are these comments
@ciaagentsextillerson3857
@ciaagentsextillerson3857 5 жыл бұрын
go away, go the fuck away
@japooskas
@japooskas 5 жыл бұрын
Spencer you will understand when your balls drop
@spencer8440
@spencer8440 5 жыл бұрын
SdSl or maybe I’m not a lonely, horny Arab or Indian making comment on an Oxford union video about how the woman’s breast look in her green top ?
@hkicgh7277
@hkicgh7277 5 жыл бұрын
@@spencer8440 most probably Indian masala B****t
@tomcolton5662
@tomcolton5662 5 жыл бұрын
Get lost, I see boobs I click
@maherhamadouch2005
@maherhamadouch2005 3 жыл бұрын
She is a beautiful woman, but I'd rather focus on her speech than her shape
@jaimearviso4771
@jaimearviso4771 5 жыл бұрын
This is like debating the merits of eating or not, whether we should breathe or sleep. Sex, sexual orientation, and gender are all correlated. Biology matters. Why would you suppress biology?
@liaqatkhan49
@liaqatkhan49 5 жыл бұрын
She gets my vote..
@sumanthedara3434
@sumanthedara3434 2 жыл бұрын
Change it for better than rejecting it
@surjapuri9476
@surjapuri9476 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your thoughts.
@tremordrake1749
@tremordrake1749 5 жыл бұрын
Wow what is she wearing in a professional environment? a green silk blouse? wow...
@jamesaustralian9829
@jamesaustralian9829 5 жыл бұрын
A green bedsheet with a pin in the middle. And no bra.
@algo2957
@algo2957 5 жыл бұрын
If you're complaining you're fucking gay.
@ciaagentsextillerson3857
@ciaagentsextillerson3857 5 жыл бұрын
@phone backup how does your hand look, oil, sticky or both?
@ciaagentsextillerson3857
@ciaagentsextillerson3857 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesaustralian9829 Yeah brawless mondays are the best days :) (•_ㅅ_•)0:36 maybe not as good as naked sundays but still a good day
@redpillwisdomseeker698
@redpillwisdomseeker698 5 жыл бұрын
It's not a fucking work place - chill out
@wdmfan
@wdmfan 5 жыл бұрын
Wahmen defining, discussing & debating Masculinity, Oh the irony.
@steveg2277
@steveg2277 5 жыл бұрын
z this.
@hinasofy229
@hinasofy229 5 жыл бұрын
Men making rules about women. Oh the irony
@LightYagami-wt1jw
@LightYagami-wt1jw 5 жыл бұрын
@@hinasofy229 lol
@jatinsharma-ri5yn
@jatinsharma-ri5yn 5 жыл бұрын
+hina sofy Someone protect her from the patriarchy.
@jenimarai1906
@jenimarai1906 5 жыл бұрын
A 9yr Kid who Believes in whamen.. What he will know about a Women..? And World..? -Go back to Ur School desk kid..calling us Whamen..u prick.
@MichElle-sd6gj
@MichElle-sd6gj 5 жыл бұрын
Real Men will be Real Men. Real Women will be Real Women. Weirdos we know not.
@arunavsingh
@arunavsingh 5 жыл бұрын
Beauty with brains
@berniesumbayak6819
@berniesumbayak6819 3 жыл бұрын
I cant focus on what she’s saying somehow… what a beauty
@AnyaChuri
@AnyaChuri 4 жыл бұрын
There is sincerely a need for dress code for women as well at the Oxford Union. I am myself a feminist; but feminism and vulgarity ain't concurrent, nor are they concomitants of each other. We women, or anyone for that matter, would, quite inadvertently, squirm if a man were to step into a premise as such (a scholastic debate wherein the attendees would least expect any queasiness and overt sensuality) wearing a banana hammock- then why should the rules be different for any gender?
@soyah1098
@soyah1098 2 жыл бұрын
I guess when the debator is not only on point and articulated but feminine and attractive, it becomes all of a sudden a matter of dress code for women. When you show the moon to a dumb, it focuses on the finger that points the moon. Some people deserve jealousy I guess.
@AnyaChuri
@AnyaChuri 2 жыл бұрын
@@soyah1098 And may be some people just need to have more insight and the aptitude to accomodate the phenomenon of other denizens of this planet earth possessing different and this case - rather learned values.... Only a dick-head would try to subsume a fairly scholastic and discerned concern of Hegelian overcompensation into the garb of the filth in one's colon and back it out in the form of a poorly constructed, weak and quintessentially futile ad hominem...
@soyah1098
@soyah1098 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnyaChuri I couldn't have found a better illustration of what meaningless a succession of word could be. Your answer is even worse that I could have imagined. Pathetic attempt to look smarter than you will ever be. The poet Nicolas Boileau-Despréaux would have answered you this way : « Whatever we conceive well we express clearly, and words flow with ease». You should definitely work on that. Oh and english is not my native language as I am french. I can speak your language, I assume you can’t speak mine. Be humble if you can, ugly soul. Just in case, I am not attacking your physique.
@AnyaChuri
@AnyaChuri 2 жыл бұрын
@@soyah1098 My native language is a language called Marathi. I presume more than the efficacy of my adeptness at a foreign language (English) what offends you is that someone showed you your impertinence and fatuousness while you were all set to prance in the hubris one experiences before realising of having a foot in the mouth.... I understand my proficiency at English would not only bemuse you but also antagonise you for you think you got the better of Brits but man they made you lick their arses. And no: not just the 1700s... While I have my personal grudges against the Brits, I cannot more than appreciate the Anglicans to show someone there is much more than croutons, nudity and glitter in life... I can amply comprehend your frustrations at being incapacitated to fathom the crux of an intellectual hypotheses and quite tacitly (or not so tacitly) has this enraged you into axing your feet more.. So dear whosoever, there is something called an intellectually epistemological opinion of others. There is much more world than the shitty sillage of De Grasse could reach, much more than Louis Vuitton could glitter and much more than the lisp you could run in your mumble 💕
@AnyaChuri
@AnyaChuri 2 жыл бұрын
@@soyah1098 sorry, did I go overboard? Hey you broached in the ugly words. My comment was jus there... I didn't do anything... Please reply something rather snarky and caustic... You can't let me look bad here....
@himanshuprasad9579
@himanshuprasad9579 5 жыл бұрын
i know why I'm here.. i love speeches
@AlphasPath
@AlphasPath 5 жыл бұрын
*To all the men watching this comment. Be as masculine as you'd like. It's not toxic and you don't need society's approval to exercise it. period.* For thousands of years, strong men have protected, uplifted and built civilization. It is only technological breakthroughs such as modern sanitation, transport, birth control, tampons, etc. that have helped women make up for their characteristics that kept them out of battlefields, factories, and workplaces. Take those away, and it shall be evident that only strong men can make society progress.
@mnkshk
@mnkshk 5 жыл бұрын
Who is here after Kabir Singh movie release?
@AkshayGowda007
@AkshayGowda007 5 жыл бұрын
She is beautiful
@kevinc3427
@kevinc3427 5 жыл бұрын
Agree with what others are saying. Men don't need permission from Women, nor should any self-repsecting man entertain the idea. And if you're a dude and think this is up for debate, please do us all a favor and go play in traffic with a blindfold on. Just as a Bullshit Test, replace Masculinity with Femininity, along with the associated context, and see how that "debate" would be received.
@ranbirningombam2450
@ranbirningombam2450 5 жыл бұрын
Who allowed you to be this beautiful! Who allowed you... to take...my breath...away!
@rabiamughal7868
@rabiamughal7868 5 жыл бұрын
Men will be men.
@lobstered_blue-lobster
@lobstered_blue-lobster 3 жыл бұрын
@@rabiamughal7868 bruh...
@iga279
@iga279 5 жыл бұрын
and who is 'we' in we should not reject traditional Masculinity?
@Andymandyrocks
@Andymandyrocks 5 жыл бұрын
Boys saw GREEN Men saw GREEN and RED LEGENDS saw GREEN RED AND BLUE 😂
@Andymandyrocks
@Andymandyrocks 5 жыл бұрын
@@rg4252 i bet you are Indian too but gay 😂
@thegoat5216
@thegoat5216 5 жыл бұрын
true legend, you are 😭😭😭
@rabiamughal7868
@rabiamughal7868 5 жыл бұрын
Indian men are crazy. Sabhi pagal deewane hote hain.
@pallabchakraborty6356
@pallabchakraborty6356 5 жыл бұрын
We shouldpromote choice,even at the cost of bloodshed,period!!!
@marcusbullock630
@marcusbullock630 5 жыл бұрын
i always wanted a woman like this.. too bad those no longer exist in orange county... they had the brains to escape.
@ahmedkaleem5504
@ahmedkaleem5504 5 жыл бұрын
She is super gorgeous.
@itsasetup8652
@itsasetup8652 5 жыл бұрын
Not even sure why she cares. I heard the past 2+ yrs loud and clear. Women don’t care about men’s struggles, they just want to stand at the finish line and f the winners.
@weareharbinger914
@weareharbinger914 4 жыл бұрын
She spoke well, yes, basically don't force people to be a certain way, thats perfect. So can feminists stop trying to force men and boys to be feminine now? And i'm not talking about emotional or something, i mean literally feminine.
@hookedtofilms
@hookedtofilms 5 жыл бұрын
I wish to marry this amazing lady
@rabiamughal7868
@rabiamughal7868 5 жыл бұрын
Indian men are crazy. Sabhi pagal deewane hote hain.
@lobstered_blue-lobster
@lobstered_blue-lobster 3 жыл бұрын
@@rabiamughal7868 he's probably not Indian...
@sudeep75
@sudeep75 5 жыл бұрын
Show me your whole books.
@amritpaulsingh2639
@amritpaulsingh2639 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't understand how she can make statements like this ,history and politics, economy is shape by men on ground of masculinity , can't justify this social,political and economical hierarchy just by giving reference of men's health.
@owenedwards9807
@owenedwards9807 5 жыл бұрын
Christ these comments are even more of a cess pool than I could have anticipated, the sweet irony
@dream1way
@dream1way 5 жыл бұрын
I want to see those hogs uncaged.
@thegoat5216
@thegoat5216 5 жыл бұрын
yasss
@imnik2118
@imnik2118 3 жыл бұрын
Noorie is more cute
@farazali1793
@farazali1793 3 жыл бұрын
We proud of you Noorie Abbas.. Love from Pakistan
@AntGeezer
@AntGeezer 5 жыл бұрын
Didn’t hear a word but, watched the whole thing.....😘
@laxmandass6946
@laxmandass6946 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@solosyiem
@solosyiem 5 жыл бұрын
Is that XXXTentacion in the background?
@thegoat5216
@thegoat5216 5 жыл бұрын
Its Kilmonger
@bindassguy7219
@bindassguy7219 3 жыл бұрын
This Woman is very Beautiful ❤️😻😻❤️❤️❤️❤️
@teresaw6437
@teresaw6437 2 жыл бұрын
the comments are crazy here :/ “I always want a woman like this” wtf
@Real-Yoda
@Real-Yoda 2 жыл бұрын
Based woman detected. Opinion accepted.
@الانسانالعالم
@الانسانالعالم 5 жыл бұрын
God, it's just, but most people don't know. Stay away from the crowds in the opinions. . Don't listen. The sound is heart-destroying. About don't be stupid and silly your decisions that only you bear the consequences do not adopt the opinions of others !!! You're not a bank for other people's opinions. Open your heart.... There are those who push towards achieving their own goals? ) (It's all to God) (And what's hidden is greater) (Man doesn't know much) (Short life. (Don't change anything temporary with anything permanent) You don't know. (Who follows a religion other than Islam?! (From it: prayer and contemplation of the Qur'an is not a crossing) (Between words only without reflection. ) (The journey of a man who was able to open his heart) (Islam ❤ ) is an act, not a class?
@angelacos
@angelacos 3 жыл бұрын
2:27 I was expecting her to say Espanyol
@sachinpathakpathak_vampire
@sachinpathakpathak_vampire 5 жыл бұрын
Instagram link plz
@jonzeebollok2266
@jonzeebollok2266 3 жыл бұрын
How relevant is this today
@alexfynn7590
@alexfynn7590 4 жыл бұрын
Emily Millar is breaking the law
@pritpalsingh3609
@pritpalsingh3609 5 жыл бұрын
wow shailene woodley is really talented speaker
@afrobear2310
@afrobear2310 5 жыл бұрын
if wahmen can discuss notions of masculinity in public without reproach then men should be allowed to talk about feminism in public with a similar courtesy.
@ilex161
@ilex161 5 жыл бұрын
This is a debate. Omg do u people not read the description box.
@afrobear2310
@afrobear2310 5 жыл бұрын
@@ilex161 I was trying to make a wider point about the exclusion of men from media debates discussing women's issues. Sorry for the confusion.
@cryptosquall3535
@cryptosquall3535 5 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe this woman... just look at how messy her hair is what was she thinking just waking up and showing up to this event jeez.
@realsushrey
@realsushrey 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@JohnWicksDaddy
@JohnWicksDaddy 5 жыл бұрын
Is it rude to stare?😉
@najibzaoui4073
@najibzaoui4073 5 жыл бұрын
is that even debatable? it seems that nowadays some people are debating common sense. tells you how lost they are.
@haoboisingsit2367
@haoboisingsit2367 5 жыл бұрын
I just came here to confirm the thumbnail whether she is that little girl from bajrangi bhaijaan or not.. Tc.
@AkshayGowda007
@AkshayGowda007 5 жыл бұрын
She has such big and beautiful Eyes..
@thewatcheronthewall85
@thewatcheronthewall85 5 жыл бұрын
She's beautiful.
@aakashbhardwaj476
@aakashbhardwaj476 5 жыл бұрын
Two reasons I watched the entire video.
@rabiamughal7868
@rabiamughal7868 5 жыл бұрын
Indian men are crazy. Sabhi pagal deewane hote hain.
@lifelonglearner3039
@lifelonglearner3039 5 жыл бұрын
you cannot be selective about masculinity - which things you like and don't. It all comes in the same package. Grow up, accept it, and stop wasting time debating such cr
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