Mirrors in the jungle: their learning by chimpanzees, SECOND ENCOUNTER. Chimpanzees VS mirrors

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Xavier HUBERT-BRIERRE

Xavier HUBERT-BRIERRE

11 жыл бұрын

ENGLISH / FRENCH:
At its first encounter with a mirror, this group of wild chimpanzees had reactions of fear and aggression against this unknown object in its forest.
This video of its second encounter shows an evolution in their reactions. Some chimps have reached a new stage in learning mirror:
- Understanding of synchronism between their own movements and the movements of their image in the mirror.
- In view of the image of a congener in the mirror, they turn their head to make sure of the presence of this congener behind their backs.
Look at the change in their behavior on the following video
• Mirrors in the jungle:...
Learning the mirror continues ..
Lors de sa première rencontre avec un miroir, ce groupe de chimpanzés sauvages a eu des réactions de peur et d'agressivité face à cet objet inconnu dans sa forêt.
Cette vidéo de sa seconde rencontre montre une évolution dans leurs réactions. Certains individus ont franchi une nouvelle étape dans leur apprentissage au miroir :
- Compréhension du synchronisme entre leurs propres mouvements et les mouvements.
- A la vue de l'image d'un congénère dans le miroir, ils se retournent pour vérifier, pour se rassurer de la présence de ce congénère derrière eux.
Deux individus sont maintenant très intéressés par ce miroir au point de revenir s'y regarder à deux ou trois reprises.
Afin d'être protégée des attaques par les éléphants et panthères, la camera-piège est incorporée dans un caisson en acier. D'où de temps en temps le son métallique des gouttes de pluie frappant cette protection.
Regardez l’évolution de leur comportement par rapport à la vidéo de leur première rencontre :
• Mirrors in the jungle:...
L'apprentissage au miroir continue ..

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@ML-kp2ib
@ML-kp2ib Жыл бұрын
I've been binge watching the mirror ones. Absolutely fascinating to watch!! and the sound - chimps and the rain.
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES Жыл бұрын
*Please check out my other videos with such artsy behaviour of these chimps **-gorillas-** in the remote area of Gabon where my mirrors are set up:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKrOgKOaiMh0n7c Front of mirror chimpanzee slap dance to scare intruders infiltrated their domain kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5Kyipxtipycqpo dance with intimidation jumps among chimpanzees in front of mirrors set in their jungle (Gabon) kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5K2XqSioNZ2mdU Chimpanzees tap dance of intimidation ?? Danses d’intimidation chez les chimpanzés face aux miroirs kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKjOiaeom62tatU MSR Mirror Self Recognition aggressive behaviors evolves to self directed behaviors kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHTTe5l6iK2habs Check out more of my 180 homemade videos from my channel and don't forget to read the description attached to each of them, you will find very interesting information. kzbin.infovideos Good vision!
@jefferyhall4137
@jefferyhall4137 Жыл бұрын
I agree for some strange reason it fascinates me, how they can't quite make the connection, mind boggling.🤔
@robertoprimordial2633
@robertoprimordial2633 2 ай бұрын
Acho engraçado
@pinsirharris9900
@pinsirharris9900 7 жыл бұрын
That chimp that liked his reflection is highly intelligent... A high level of interactiveness, self-awareness, and curiosity. Way cool.
@Iamthewampus
@Iamthewampus 9 жыл бұрын
thats just like how i start the day, throw water and scream at myself in the mirror.
@jmatt4life
@jmatt4life 5 жыл бұрын
This truly is fascinating to watch! They appear to be angry because they lose their reflection when walking around the mirror. I wonder if they eventually get it? That yelling around 4:35 may be the moment of discovery or just simple frustration! They still look confused at the end. AMAZING!
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 5 жыл бұрын
They are not angry because they lose their reflection, Each chimpanzee effectively recognizes his neighbours among the reflections, he also notices the presence of a stranger he has never met: his image he does not know. Why is he here? In an attempt to frighten this stranger he has never met (his image), this chimpanzee shows his large build, in standing in a bipedal position, stretching out his arms, ruffling his hair and shows his strength with heavy slaps on the ground. His reflection taking the same attitude, he hesitates to fight it. Keep watching the new videos that I put online on my channel and read the description attached to each one of them. You will know very interesting information about animals reactions front of my mirrors in the jungle : kzbin.infovideosTranslated with www.DeepL.com/Translator
@hernandosilva1
@hernandosilva1 3 жыл бұрын
Espelho, Espelho meu ,há um chimpanzé mais bonito do que eu?
@turop3491
@turop3491 3 жыл бұрын
напомнило видос где дед в магазине "белку"поймал и в зеркале пытается пройти,дай пройду говорит)
@patrickbush9526
@patrickbush9526 4 жыл бұрын
I go through the same thing every morning in the bathroom mirror and I just hate it
@cocawaith8948
@cocawaith8948 2 жыл бұрын
Isso aí é muito incrível. 😆
@susanolson3611
@susanolson3611 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this, it's very interesting 🙂
@JayS64
@JayS64 3 жыл бұрын
Inhumane. The mirror done made the monkey go insane 5:07 Lol
@saturahman7510
@saturahman7510 3 жыл бұрын
He made a video of his relatives on holiday.
@srbrant5391
@srbrant5391 3 жыл бұрын
4:15 - “See? Weird, huh?”
@kellykirkwood4567
@kellykirkwood4567 Жыл бұрын
I’m loving these videos. Also, I’m betting those chimps smell fantastic in that rain.
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES Жыл бұрын
*_A comment like yours is comforting after reading comments calling for the dismantling of these cruel mirrors_* 𝗣𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗰𝗸 𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗺𝘆 𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝘃𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘀𝘂𝗰𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝘁𝘀𝘆 𝗯𝗲𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘀𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗺𝗽𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗼𝘁𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗮 𝗼𝗳 𝗚𝗮𝗯𝗼𝗻 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗺𝘆 𝗺𝗶𝗿𝗿𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘀𝗲𝘁 𝘂𝗽: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKrOgKOaiMh0n7c Front of mirror chimpanzee slap dance to scare intruders infiltrated their domain kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5Kyipxtipycqpo dance with intimidation jumps among chimpanzees in front of mirrors set in their jungle (Gabon) kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5K2XqSioNZ2mdU Chimpanzees tap dance of intimidation ?? Danses d’intimidation chez les chimpanzés face aux miroirs kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKjOiaeom62tatU MSR Mirror Self Recognition aggressive behaviors evolves to self directed behaviors kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHTTe5l6iK2habs In a storm, male chimpanzees are frightened by their reflections in a large mirror Please check out more of 180 videos posted on my channel: kzbin.infovideos After each viewing, don't forget to read its description, which contains additional information
@AlexandruBurda
@AlexandruBurda Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. It is clear that what they lack is the ability to communicate we humans have. Otherwise, because they recognize each other in the mirror but not themselves, they would be able tell one another: - look, that one looks like you. - and that one looks like you. - maybe it is you - and maybe it is you. Thus making the logical connection between their images and the object creating them (which they clearly perceive as such and as a source of logical contradiction). But instead, their reaction is the one of human toddler: nervousness, anxiety and contradiction. Fascinating.
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES Жыл бұрын
In animals as in humans, self recognition in a mirror is not innate. It is the result of the more comfortable training in the mirror at home among young humans in the company of their parents who have done this training and who have the words to explain to their young child the properties of the mirror. An adult human, facing a mirror for the first time in his life, while unaware of its properties and even its existence, would also behave irrationally. It is only the lack of knowledge of the mirror that makes him react in this way. Among chimpanzees, in the insecurity of the jungle learning the mirror with his parents who have not done this and who do not speak, this is much more difficult even for intelligent individuals. *In front of a mirror children and chimpanzee females are not worried about their reflection, which they do not consider as a danger but rather as a potential playmate or lover or finally as a new female who has joined the group.* *In front of a mirror, each alpha chimpanzee (silverback) effectively recognizes its neighbours among the reflections, it also notices the presence of a stranger it has never met: its image it does not know. What is he doing there? Why is he here? Why would I share with this unknown silverback the right to mate with the females in our group? In an attempt to frighten this stranger he has never met (his image), with whom he does not want to share the females of his group, this chimpanzee shows his large build, standing in a bipedal position, arms outstretched, ruffling his hair, and shows his strength with heavy loudly slaps with cupped hands on the ground. These slaps on the ground must be very noisy because this alpha chimpanzee want to show his power and thus scare the invader of his domain (his own image) and push him to escape. His reflection taking the same attitude, he hesitates to fight it. Under these conditions, learning to use the mirror is not possible and cannot be successful for silverback chimpanzees. After a long practice in mirror in laboratory, some chimpanzees have performed unambiguouslyon the mirror test, but not always.* Keep watching the new videos that I put online on my channel and read the description attached to each one of them. You will know very interesting information about animals reactions front of my mirrors in the jungle : kzbin.infovideos
@agonymouse4864
@agonymouse4864 Жыл бұрын
I had the exact same thoughts, is that why he begins screaming?? Trying to say, I CAN SEE YOU IN THERE DAMN IT! 🤔
@agonymouse4864
@agonymouse4864 Жыл бұрын
@@XHB06400CANNES do they not recognise the jungle in the mirror or their fellow gorillas?? I understand why they don't recognise themselves, but why not the others in the group? Or is recognition of others done with scent and sound, not just a visual thing?
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES Жыл бұрын
@@agonymouse4864 If in front of a mirror, each chimpanzee effectively recognizes his neighbours among the reflections, he also notices the presence of a stranger he has never met: his image he does not know. Why is he here? *In an attempt to frighten this stranger he has never met (his image), this chimpanzee shows his large build, in standing in a bipedal position, stretching out his arms, jumping, ruffling his hair and shows his strength with heavy slaps on the ground.* *His reflection taking the same attitude, he hesitates to fight it.* Keep watching my videos I put online on my channel and read the description attached to each one of them. You will know very interesting informations about animals reactions front of my mirrors in the jungle : kzbin.infovideos
@agonymouse4864
@agonymouse4864 Жыл бұрын
@@XHB06400CANNES thanks so much for your extensive replies and fabulous videos! I've been telling my friends about your channel and have told them how great you are at answering comments here. Keep up the great work! I love what you do and will watch as often as I can. Thanks again for your brilliant content and friendly manner in the comments section! 😁💚🐒
@IamwhoIam333
@IamwhoIam333 3 жыл бұрын
He keeps looking back at his friends like " You got my back, right ?"
@frankelimizabel9097
@frankelimizabel9097 3 жыл бұрын
Lindos de Deus
@dereklewis546
@dereklewis546 5 жыл бұрын
They say we have 99% DNA of Chimps, also Skeleton is 95% same, wow, Evolution is amazingly beautiful 🌷
@jocianerodrigues6107
@jocianerodrigues6107 3 жыл бұрын
Coitadinhos ficam na chuva olhando para o espelho o que será eles pensam😍😍😍
@chiriaciulian8976
@chiriaciulian8976 5 жыл бұрын
Their brain is on fire!
@MikeAndNary
@MikeAndNary 4 жыл бұрын
1:56 Almost took that evolutionary step!
@diabl2master
@diabl2master 4 жыл бұрын
The transition is to *always* walking upright - these guys can't do that
@tlrlml
@tlrlml 4 жыл бұрын
@@diabl2master Evolution is indeterminate, it doesn't *always* do anything.
@diabl2master
@diabl2master 4 жыл бұрын
@@tlrlml OP said "THAT" evolutionary step and is clearly referring to the difference in how humans walk vs other primates - that difference is that humans *always* walk upright, whereas no other primates do that. I didnt say anything about what "evolution always does". I think you misread my comment.
@Kwelinzito
@Kwelinzito Жыл бұрын
I could have sworn there was a chimp right in front of me, says the chimp after checking behind the mirror.
@chancebriggs7556
@chancebriggs7556 5 жыл бұрын
Being self aware can be really crazy at first. Just imagine
@markmorenault765
@markmorenault765 Жыл бұрын
i wonder what they would do if you gave them a small piece of something reflective, that they could hold in their hands and see the reflection and how they would react.
@angies513
@angies513 Жыл бұрын
They won't hold it
@charliebrown8038
@charliebrown8038 11 жыл бұрын
Very cute and entertaining. Learned some of the animals body language toward one another own kind. I liked it.
@cocawaith8948
@cocawaith8948 2 жыл бұрын
Deve ser frustrante, ele fazer vários movimentos de intimidação, e o suposto inimigo, imitar na mesma da hora. 😂
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 2 жыл бұрын
Por favor leia a descrição, em inglês e francês, anexada a este vídeo e também a cada um dos nossos 180 vídeos no meu canal. Você encontrará informações muito interessantes sobre os animais filmados por nossas câmeras na selva gabonesa. kzbin.infovideos Se você não fala inglês ou francês, você pode usar a versão gratuita do tradutor www.deepl.com/pt-PT/translator translate.google.pt/?hl=pt
@thref2004
@thref2004 11 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!
@ashokchauhan2334
@ashokchauhan2334 3 жыл бұрын
Super video
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 3 жыл бұрын
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@ashokchauhan2334
@ashokchauhan2334 3 жыл бұрын
@@XHB06400CANNES thanks
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashokchauhan2334 🙏🙏🙏 I really appreciate it when I get a feedback on my reply to a comment! Merci beaucoup ! 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝘀 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝘄𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝗺𝗲 𝘂𝗽 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗮 𝗼𝗳 𝘀𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘂𝗽 𝗵𝘂𝗴𝗲 𝗺𝗶𝗿𝗿𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗚𝗮𝗯𝗼𝗻𝗲𝘀𝗲 𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘁: My wife and I are neither scientists nor veterinarians nor primatologists nor photographers. We wanted to thank Gabon, which has welcomed our family for more than 35 years (in the retail sector), to show on KZbin the diversity of the fauna of this beautiful country and to make Internet users want to visit it. Our first videos posted on our KZbin channel essentially showed wildlife "passing" in front of the lenses of our trap cameras equipped with motion detectors: The passage of an elephant in front of the objective of a trap for about twenty seconds is not particularly interesting. On the other hand, a video of young elephants playing in a river while adults are quenching their thirst is much more enjoyable to watch. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aompmIWhiMaYitU Elephant calves have fun during a creek crossing (Gabon jungle). To find such "spots" it is advisable to get further away from the path used by the few 4x4 vehicles of Nyonié, to go deeper into the forest and to walk in the beds of creeks and small rivers. This is not safe, especially when you are old. To progress more easily in the forest, animals use this off-road trail, without vines, bushes, brambles and trees mixed on the ground because of the very numerous tornadoes in this region on the Equator line. We came up with the idea of placing very large mirrors at the end of a long straight line of an off-road track to catch their eyes and "block" them in front of their image. We have also placed other mirrors under trees where numerous animals appreciate the fruits. At other locations in the middle of the forest it would have been very lucky for animals to meet their reflection. Our use of mirrors has been of great interest to primatologists, including members of the PSG, not the Paris Saint Germain football club, but the Primate Specialists Group, who have only been able to study self-recognition in a mirror in great apes in laboratories with captive animals or animals born in captivity, used to contact with humans. These animals did not have to search for food, defend their families against other congeners and predators, sometimes imitating humans, and therefore had very different distorted behaviours from primates living in complete freedom with their group or family in a remote area of Gabon's forest. Our cameras have highlighted a very particular behaviour among chimpanzees in the Nyonié region and resulted in a scientific publication, "Reflections in rainforest mirrors facilitate behavioral observations of wild chimpanzees Primates n°58 2017-01". On our two following videos this behavior is filmed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqWweJaCp7ZkaKc (Rump-Rump Rubbing in Chimpanzees = anti-stress effect? A social behavior ever observed previously) and kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqfPmoekf5yCotE (scared chimps reassure themselves with pseudo-copulation and rump-to-rump contacts front of mirror). This is how, incidentally in wild animals, we discovered and became interested in their self-recognition in our large mirrors. Keep watching my homemade videos (160 pieces) that I put online on my channel and read the description attached to each one of them. You will know very interesting explanations about animals reactions front of my mirrors in the jungle and share its link with your friends: kzbin.infovideos
@michael.5360
@michael.5360 4 жыл бұрын
Hey what's that sound, rain or the locust invasion? Rod Serling jumps out of the mirror and and gives them one of his narratives be fore telling them , they're in the twilight zone.
@CarolynDenison
@CarolynDenison 4 жыл бұрын
@1:07 Did they leave? Alright, it's about time they left. I'm ready for some private time with my favorite Chimp. Wait a minute. What are you two doing back. I thought you both left? Well, were baaaaaack. First chimp.... I just can't get no alone time with her/him, what ever you are my georgous lover to be.
@nadiaben7644
@nadiaben7644 5 жыл бұрын
J'adore cette vidéo, ils sont amusants
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 5 жыл бұрын
Merci pour votre commentaire. Continuez à regarder les 130 vidéos de notre chaine et surtout après chacune d'elles, lisez mon descriptif en français se trouvant après celui en anglais. J'y donne des informations importantes notamment sur les réactions des animaux face à de grands miroirs plantés dans leur jungle où ils vivent en totale liberté. kzbin.infovideos
@paulinechopin141
@paulinechopin141 5 жыл бұрын
C est vraiment intéressant de voir le comportement des animaux en voyant leur reflet
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 5 жыл бұрын
Un commentaire comme le vôtre nous réconforte après des journées passées seuls mon épouse et moi dans la forêt gabonaise pour l’entretien de nos miroirs et de nombreux piège photographiques, changer les SD, piles, batteries, nettoyer les objectifs, enlever les branches tombées dans leur champ de vision, remonter à pied le lit des marigots pour trouver des zones de traversée d’animaux pour y installer de nouveaux pièges etc.. Trempés par les tornades, le corps couvert de piqûres d'insectes de toutes sortes (taons, mouches gorilles, tsé-tsé, fourmis noires, fourmis magnan etc.) et malheureusement le nombre de caméras refusant de fonctionner augmente en raison du taux d’humidité de 95%. C’est un choix. Encore merci. Regardez mes autres vidéos de la chaine et n'oubliez pas à chaque fois de lire la description qui y est jointe. Vous y apprendrez des informations très importantes. kzbin.infovideos
@tjworker5482
@tjworker5482 5 жыл бұрын
O''''' it's hard to be humble, when I'm perfect in ev-ry way,,, ev-ry time i look in the mir-ror ,, i get better look'n each day!
@lindalee7322
@lindalee7322 5 жыл бұрын
That's cute!
@jakespoon7227
@jakespoon7227 5 жыл бұрын
@4:40 the one by the bushes said he off his meds again and took off...
@joeycarr1398
@joeycarr1398 5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@kcl43
@kcl43 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Wolfman1987
@Wolfman1987 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@fang_uk
@fang_uk 11 жыл бұрын
01:41 - love the way he looks behind the mirror! :)
@gskrillaadabigdog5290
@gskrillaadabigdog5290 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like even if they don't recognize them self's they would recognize members of the group in the mirror
@jazzabighits4473
@jazzabighits4473 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah you'd think you'd only need 2 of them 1st chimp: omg who is that? 2nd chimp: omg thats you but who is that? 1st chimp: thats you who is that Thats you...that's me...
@The_Scouts_Code
@The_Scouts_Code 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get why, if they drink water from puddles and streams, don't know at least understand what reflections are? I know this mirror is standing up and not water but still...
@martinruddell2682
@martinruddell2682 Жыл бұрын
Can't find those guys. Where the hell are they at?
@wleon4068
@wleon4068 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Most of them always go behind the mirror, thinking that their 'rivals' are there. Lolol.
@MrSlanderer
@MrSlanderer 4 жыл бұрын
2:50 seemed to be its confirmation. Even seemed a bit impressed, upon realising his original reflection truly was himself.
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 4 жыл бұрын
These are the first exposures to the mirror. The one you are talking about, has absolutely not understood that his image is himself because he will look for this unknown reflection (he does not know what he looks like) behind the mirror (04:08). Front of a mirror, each alpha chimpanzee (silverback) effectively recognizes his neighbour among the reflections, he also notices the presence of a stranger he has never met: his image he does not know. Why is he here? In an attempt to frighten this stranger he has never met (his image), this chimpanzee shows his large build, in standing in a bipedal position, stretching out his arms, ruffling his hair and shows his strength with heavy slaps on the ground. His reflection taking the same attitude, he hesitates to fight it. In very intelligent apes as in very intelligent humans, self recognition in a mirror is not innate. It is the result of the more comfortable training in the mirror at home among young humans in the company of their parents who have done this training and who have the words to explain to their young child the properties of the mirror. Among chimpanzees or gorillas, in the insecurity of the jungle learning at the same time as his parents who have not done this and who do not speak, this is much more difficult even for intelligent individuals.
@MrSlanderer
@MrSlanderer 4 жыл бұрын
Xavier HUBERT-BRIERRE Interesting. After seeing its friend coming up behind, there just seemed to be a slight understanding, as his aggressive posture seemed to drop (can’t say the same for his friend, who clearly still didn’t understand, hence the ground-slapping).
@KARI6266
@KARI6266 2 жыл бұрын
Kawał dobrej roboty
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏 Bardzo doceniam, kiedy widz dziękuje mi za moją odpowiedź na jego komentarz. Merci beaucoup ! *Proszę sprawdzić inne moje filmy z tak artystycznym zachowaniem tych szympansów w odległym rejonie Gabonu, gdzie ustawione są moje lustra:*. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKrOgKOaiMh0n7c Przed lustrem szympansi taniec slap, aby przestraszyć intruzów, którzy przeniknęli do ich domeny kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5Kyipxtipycqpo taniec z zastraszającymi podskokami wśród szympansów przed lustrami ustawionymi w ich dżungli (Gabon) kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5K2XqSioNZ2mdU Taniec zastraszania szympansów ?? Danses d'intimidation chez les chimpanzés face aux miroirs kzbin.info/www/bejne/lamwlWmmrt6AmMU Niektóre szympansy złoszczą się na lustra, inne są spokojne kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKjOiaeom62tatU MSR Mirror Self Recognition - agresywne zachowania ewoluują w kierunku zachowań samosterujących kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHTTe5l6iK2habs Podczas burzy samce szympansów są przestraszone swoimi odbiciami w dużym lustrze Obejrzyjcie mój kanał kzbin.infovideos z jego wieloma filmami o faunie Gabonu. Przeczytaj opis dołączony do każdego z moich filmów, ponieważ znajdziesz tam bardzo interesujące informacje o zwierzętach, a zwłaszcza o tym, jak reagują na moje lustra. Jeśli nie rozumiesz angielskiego, a nie francuskiego, możesz przetłumaczyć moje opisy za pomocą darmowego oprogramowania tłumaczącego, takiego jak: www.deepl.com/pl/translator
@KARI6266
@KARI6266 2 жыл бұрын
@@XHB06400CANNES dziękuję
@chicao8022
@chicao8022 4 жыл бұрын
Parabéns pela tua dedicação em doar horas, dias, muito tempo de tua vida estudando a evolução dos animais no aprendizado da própria imagem refletida no espelho. A selva não é um ambiente de fácil vivência. Já morei em uma, a deslumbrante selva amazônica, aonde não existem gorilas e nem chimpanzés, mas sim uma variedade grande de primatas desconhecidos pelos pesquisadores de outros paises. Adoro teus vídeos. Obrigada por compartilhá-los. Sucesso na pesquisa! Fica com Deus!
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 4 жыл бұрын
Tal comentário encoraja-nos a prosseguir a nossa paixão esmagadora e algo perigosa. Acompanhe os novos vídeos que estão postados no meu canal: kzbin.infovideos Por favor, leia a descrição, em inglês e francês, anexada a este vídeo, bem como a cada um dos 150 vídeos do meu canal. Você vai encontrar informações muito interessantes sobre os animais filmados por nossas câmeras de captura na selva gabonesa. Se você não fala inglês ou francês, você pode usar software de tradução gratuito como o deepl.com.
@Wolfman1987
@Wolfman1987 3 жыл бұрын
There are people that actually walk like this
@JasonFelminghamLee
@JasonFelminghamLee Жыл бұрын
Oh bless 'em. They don't get do they.
@yashimut
@yashimut 11 жыл бұрын
so, these are those who fail to evolve... an entertaining video btw :)
@tlrlml
@tlrlml 4 жыл бұрын
Chimpanzees have *not* failed to evolve.
@heidikickhouse-
@heidikickhouse- 4 жыл бұрын
Can you explain what is being expressed/communicated 4:35 to 5:11 please? Thanks much! [ p.s. - did the on-site filmer of the middle of the night Elephant vs. Mirror video suffer cardiac arrest or a panic attack or does he/she have PTSD nightmare flashbacks from it now? I know I had ALL of that just WATCHIng that video, and I am three or four continents away with my head under a blanket... that was some scary video! That mirror maker should use your video like John Cameron Swayze and Timex.]
@PunxTV123
@PunxTV123 4 жыл бұрын
Heidi Kickhouse the monkey said, “omg u watched our videos and u didnt subscribe, i will find big gori to kill u”
@adamplentl5588
@adamplentl5588 3 жыл бұрын
Im no expert but that sounds like anxiety to me.
@jennifersimmons9473
@jennifersimmons9473 11 жыл бұрын
My pc translates for thank goodness. Smart animals these.
@merryflores9672
@merryflores9672 5 жыл бұрын
me encantan cómo se entretienen y me rió mucho muy bueno lo q asen ponerle ese espejo para saber cómo es su reacción de cada uno los felicito Chile merry
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 5 жыл бұрын
Anne-Marie, Michel y Xavier agradecen a Chile Merry por sus felicitaciones. Un comentario como el suyo nos anima después de pasar días en el bosque gabonés manteniendo nuestros espejos y muchas cámaras con mi esposa. Atemperado por las tormentas, el cuerpo está cubierto de mordeduras de todo tipo de insectos (tse-tse, hormigas negras, etc.) y desafortunadamente el número de cámaras que se niegan a funcionar aumenta. Su comentario nos anima a perseguir nuestra abrumadora y un tanto peligrosa pasión. Por tu parte sigue viendo los nuevos videos que puse en línea en mi canal y lee la descripción adjunta a cada uno de ellos. Conocerán informaciones muy interesantes sobre las reacciones de los animales frente a mis espejos en la selva: kzbin.infovideos
@saturahman7510
@saturahman7510 3 жыл бұрын
They need umbrellas and raincoats !
@alane7896
@alane7896 2 жыл бұрын
you mean thats me in the mirror in my bathroom ever morning!?
@diabl2master
@diabl2master 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what they are thinking.
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 4 жыл бұрын
In very intelligent apes as in very intelligent humans, self recognition in a mirror is not innate. It is the result of the more comfortable training in the mirror at home among young humans in the company of their parents who have done this training and who have the words to explain to their young child the properties of the mirror. Among chimpanzees, in the insecurity of the jungle learning at the same time as his parents who have not done this and who do not speak, this is much more difficult even for intelligent individuals. Front of a mirror, each alpha chimpanzee (silverback) effectively recognizes his neighbour among the reflections, he also notices the presence of a stranger he has never met: his image he does not know. Why is he here? He does not plan to share the females of his group with this intruder. In an attempt to frighten this stranger, this chimpanzee shows his large build, in standing in a bipedal position, stretching out his arms, ruffling his hair and shows his strength with heavy slaps on the ground. His reflection taking the same attitude, he hesitates to fight it. Watch my videos: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKrOgKOaiMh0n7c kzbin.info/www/bejne/lamwlWmmrt6AmMU kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5K2XqSioNZ2mdU Hearing the cries of the other chimpanzees of the group (pan hut), perched in the trees around the mirror, he cannot remain calm and must assume his status of dominant male and scare away this intruder. Under these conditions, learning to use the mirror is not possible and cannot be successful. However female chimpanzees do not worry about the arrival of a foreign female in her group as long as these females are at the " service " of the dominant males in the group. Don’t forget after watching to read the description attached to each of my 160 videos published on my KZbin channel you will know very interesting information about animals reactions front of my mirrors in the jungle kzbin.infovideos
@diabl2master
@diabl2master 4 жыл бұрын
@@XHB06400CANNES Thanks for the links. What I'm saying is that I'm sure they have some strange superstitious concepts entering their minds regarding who this individual is, why he's there, what this rectangular object is through which he can see the other chimp
@derriduresique5627
@derriduresique5627 4 жыл бұрын
@@diabl2master Monkey thoughts. Even if they could create them in English they would probably seem more like a toddlers story than thoughts at all. Fascinating/
@mickwehrman9810
@mickwehrman9810 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I have really bad tinnitus but the rain sounds like every bad metal song played at the same time
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 2 жыл бұрын
It is the sound of water drops from the tornado hitting the metal security boxes in which the cameras are protected! Keep watching the numerous videos that I put online on my channel and read the description attached to each one of them. You will know very interesting informations about animals reactions front of my mirrors in the jungle : kzbin.infovideos
@paintalongwithmandykay3685
@paintalongwithmandykay3685 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could know what they are thinking
@woodedlane
@woodedlane 4 жыл бұрын
The one screaming at their reflection must have just realized the bad job she got at the beauty parlor. lol
@Ethan.s..
@Ethan.s.. 4 жыл бұрын
@Zettie The one screaming is male & looks to be the dominant mail of the group.
@five1002
@five1002 11 жыл бұрын
At 5:52, he looks like what I imagine the first TV watcher looked like.
@pequeuxdarleux1480
@pequeuxdarleux1480 4 жыл бұрын
Et sa femelle assise dérrière lui dit "t'as trouvé quelque chose chéri" ?
@Alfaiataria2027
@Alfaiataria2027 3 жыл бұрын
140 .928 visualizações e 800 curtidas , a pessoa não aceita de onde vem coitados preso no misticismo os livros encantados escritos poi sábios
@DomesticApe
@DomesticApe 11 жыл бұрын
Great video.. Would be good to have one with translated notations in English, I'd like to know what's written.
@naughtmeinam4603
@naughtmeinam4603 4 жыл бұрын
A mirror in a jungle The last ape in a lost land
@jameswilliamson3853
@jameswilliamson3853 Жыл бұрын
Why do The Chimps keep looking at the camera? I thought the camera was supposed to be hidden or is there someone back there that they recognize as human?
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES Жыл бұрын
in order not to disturb the reactions of the animals facing their reflection in our large mirrors, the videos are filmed by my trap cameras protected by camouflage coloured steel boxes which are clearly visible, but which the animals do not know the purpose of and how they work. On several occasions they turn, not towards the camera, but towards the forest from where some are apparently observing them. Please watch my video and after read the attached description: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHmZqnSkmp1rf6c _During his mirror training, an alpha male chimpanzee may have to prove his status to the group_
@cujoemblakka1041
@cujoemblakka1041 4 жыл бұрын
What's new even to this day some tribes are suspicious of mirrors, notice some our folklores. They will get used to it, they see themselves at watering holes, they will recognize one of these days.
@justingreen2432
@justingreen2432 2 жыл бұрын
We are the aliens from 2001.
@gyman978
@gyman978 5 жыл бұрын
That's not tail between his legs
@polak3015
@polak3015 11 жыл бұрын
my french isn't so good but it's something to do with them understanding the synchronization of their movements to the mirror.
@xXDreadandDreamsXx
@xXDreadandDreamsXx 11 жыл бұрын
3:07 - Dude gets PISSED!
@Fremen1971
@Fremen1971 11 жыл бұрын
I think they're looking for Ashton Kutcher. ;)
@lethamann3161
@lethamann3161 11 жыл бұрын
I reconize one of those guys, I met him last weekend and he ask me out for a banana!!!
@MikeAndNary
@MikeAndNary 4 жыл бұрын
6:04 - he was looking to see how big his bottom looked in the mirror.
@DomesticApe
@DomesticApe 11 жыл бұрын
@polak3015 Yeah that much is fairly obvious.
@takadirtakadir3091
@takadirtakadir3091 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@kawthoolei942
@kawthoolei942 Жыл бұрын
Nobody behind glasses
@corbilly
@corbilly 10 жыл бұрын
bipedalism seems to be no big deal... sometimes they just choose to stand up and walk a little bit
@amin-kb6tt
@amin-kb6tt 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha🤣🤣🤣
@user-zy1nl4se3m
@user-zy1nl4se3m 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@rafaelbelliard7605
@rafaelbelliard7605 6 жыл бұрын
quiere pelear con su propio image
@alphonsozorro7952
@alphonsozorro7952 5 жыл бұрын
"Afin d'être protégée des attaques par les éléphants et panthères, ..." No panthers in Africa.
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 5 жыл бұрын
Si Zorro est capable de lire et comprendre une description en français dans laquelle le mot panthère est employé, il doit savoir que le Léopard ou Panthère est une espèce de félins de la sous-famille des panthérinés. Dixit Wikipédia : Nom scientifique : Panthera Pardus. *Le léopard est commun en Afrique subsaharienne* . En Asie, il se distribue du Moyen-Orient à la Chine. Dixit Wikipédia
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 5 жыл бұрын
Why are the players of Gabon's national football team nicknamed "The Panthers" if these felines are not present in the Gabonese forest? Arsenal football team striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang is captain of the Panthers of Gabon
@victorperez7661
@victorperez7661 3 жыл бұрын
Aq
@ProGamez262Archived
@ProGamez262Archived 3 жыл бұрын
Aq
@wheatleyjoestar
@wheatleyjoestar 3 жыл бұрын
Aq
@v380riMz
@v380riMz 3 жыл бұрын
Aq
@ncsfinest09
@ncsfinest09 11 жыл бұрын
around 4:40secs *correction*
@alexandermartinez7047
@alexandermartinez7047 6 жыл бұрын
Yo soy el único que habla espanish
@deweyb3458
@deweyb3458 5 жыл бұрын
no
@deweyb3458
@deweyb3458 5 жыл бұрын
We "habla" English here, in case you didn't notice....
@deweyb3458
@deweyb3458 5 жыл бұрын
Which doesn't mean we don't know how, we just don't. try ENGLISH....
@usuarioNordestino
@usuarioNordestino 6 жыл бұрын
em 7:33
@hubertignatowicz1138
@hubertignatowicz1138 3 жыл бұрын
Is it really ethical to confuse these primates? At ones stage one chap was really getting mad. It must be very distressing to them to see the image and not be able to see anything behind the mirror.
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 3 жыл бұрын
𝑭𝒐𝒓 𝒚𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒊𝒏𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏, 𝒑𝒍𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒎𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒑𝒐𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒅 𝒐𝒏 𝒎𝒚 𝒀𝒐𝒖𝑻𝒖𝒃𝒆 𝒄𝒉𝒂𝒏𝒏𝒆𝒍: 𝐗𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐫 𝐇𝐔𝐁𝐄𝐑𝐓-𝐁𝐑𝐈𝐄𝐑𝐑𝐄 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐤 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐬𝐨 𝐦𝐮𝐜𝐡 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐬𝐞 𝐯𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐨'𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐤𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐈 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐤 𝐲𝐨𝐮, 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐰𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐟𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐝 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐛𝐨𝐭𝐭𝐨𝐦 𝐨𝐟 𝐦𝐲 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐭 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐝𝐨𝐧𝐞, 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐩𝐬 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐮𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐨 𝐝𝐨 𝐢𝐭. 𝐈 𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐬𝐞𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐠𝐨𝐨𝐝 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐝𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠, 𝐈 𝐚𝐦 𝐚𝐩𝐩𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐬𝐞𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐲𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐰𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐠, 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐛𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐧𝐨 𝐬𝐮𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐨𝐟 𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐦𝐚𝐥𝐬, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐮𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐛𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐨𝐧 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐭 𝐢𝐧 𝐝𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐰𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐟𝐮𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠. 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐮𝐬, 𝐬𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐰𝐞 𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐬𝐞𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐬𝐞 𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐳𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐬𝐜𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐬. 𝐏𝐞𝐨𝐩𝐥𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐬𝐢𝐭 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐚𝐫𝐦𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐢𝐫𝐬 𝐣𝐮𝐝𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐲 𝐨𝐟 𝐬𝐞𝐞𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤, 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐧𝐨 𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐚 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐨𝐩𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐦𝐞𝐚𝐧 𝐧𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠. 𝐈 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐛𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐨 𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐦𝐚𝐥 𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝟑𝟎 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐈 𝐬𝐞𝐞 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐢𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐲 𝐨𝐟 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐯𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐨𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐜𝐚𝐮𝐬𝐞𝐝 𝐚𝐧𝐲 𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐦 𝐰𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐬𝐨𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫, 𝐢𝐧 𝐟𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐦𝐚𝐥𝐬 𝐜𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐥𝐲 𝐞𝐧𝐣𝐨𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐦𝐢𝐫𝐫𝐨𝐫𝐬. 𝐊𝐞𝐞𝐩 𝐮𝐩 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐳𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤 (𝐒𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐨𝐧 𝐁𝐫𝐨𝐦𝐥𝐞𝐲 𝟕 𝐨𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟎)
@hubertignatowicz1138
@hubertignatowicz1138 3 жыл бұрын
If you think that some of these animals are not distressed by these experiments perhaps you show this comment to them.
@TontonGringo
@TontonGringo 3 жыл бұрын
@@hubertignatowicz1138 Why do not you open a desk of free psychological consultations in the forest to comfort these poor chimpanzees for these few minutes of annoyance before discover the principle of the mirror? In my opinion, you are much more traumatized than them ...
@TstanDa-Man
@TstanDa-Man 2 жыл бұрын
You are joking I hope. These wild animals are going to be just fine. Do you get all stressed out the first time you discovered something different as you experienced things in life for the first time?? I’m embarrassed for you for such a ridiculous observation
@exnihilonihilfit6316
@exnihilonihilfit6316 Жыл бұрын
Oh no, a concern troll...
@user-uw3py8yh4s
@user-uw3py8yh4s 4 жыл бұрын
이건 동물 학대다!
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 4 жыл бұрын
더 잔인합니까? -가죽 끈으로 개를 묶고, 특히 큰 거울을 갖춘 탈의실과 함께 아파트에 잠 그려면? -야생 동물을 일생 동안 인클로저 나 감금소에 보관하는 것. 울타리 나 바 뒤에 붙어있는 방문객을 관찰하고 사냥하거나 사냥하지 않은 음식을 생존하는 것만으로 산만하게 하는가? 또는 야생 동물이 완전히 자유로이 살아가는 열대 우림에 큰 거울을 설치하여 숲에서 일상의 단조 로움을 깰 수도 있습니다. 이 야생 동물들은 원하는만큼 몸에 꼭 맞고 거울 앞에 머무를 때 거울로 갈 수 있습니다. 거울 옆에 사람이 음식을 가져 오도록 장려하지 않습니다. 정글의 삶은 이미 거울없이 잔인합니다.이 동물들은 정글에서 다른 적들을 끊임없이 만나게됩니다. 그리고 그 상대 (혹은 먹이)는 실제 발톱, 송곳니, 엄니 및 뿔을 가지고 피와 맞서 싸 웁니다. 그들은 싸우거나 도망 치거나 둘 다를합니다. 세상에, 그들은 식량, 지위 및 영토의 종에 관계없이 자신의 무리와 자존심 사이에서 싸우며 그 중 하나 또는 둘 다가 죽을 수도 있습니다. 이제는 진정한 스트레스가 될 것입니다. kzbin.infovideos 채널에 게시 된 160 개 비디오 각각에 첨부 된 설명을 반드시 읽으십시오.
@hugod2000
@hugod2000 4 жыл бұрын
i heard chimp meat tastes good
@XHB06400CANNES
@XHB06400CANNES 4 жыл бұрын
*Rather than chimpanzee meat, bushmeat lovers prefer first, bushpig (Red river hogs) meat then pangolin meat* Check out more of my 160 homemade videos that I put online on my channel and read the description attached to each one of them. You will know very interesting informations about animals reactions front of my huge mirrors in the gabonese jungle : kzbin.infovideos
@ABC1900.
@ABC1900. 4 жыл бұрын
LÁTTÁTOK?AMELYIK CSIMPÁNZ SIKITOZOTT FELEGYENESEDETT KÈT LÁBRA ÁLLT.MEGNÈZTE A TÜKÖR MÖGÖTT VA -E MÁSIK CSIMPÁNZ?EZT TÖBBSZÖR MEGISMÈTELTE,HOGY TUDATOSULJON BENNE HOGY AZ CSAK EGY TÁRGY,AMIBEN SAJÁT MAGÁT LÁTJA.AZ NEM BÁNTJA ŐT./OFFICINÁLIS/.
@joshcrum1439
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