Missing Titanic Visitors May Have Encountered Unimaginable Panic | Titan Disaster Analysis

[@cellostrings2522]

So horrible. And there is no way I would ever get into a vessel like that. Never.

[@cq9882]

With you there. Crazy

[@laurieday9976]

Never!

[@ubuntuber1619]

thats why you lot live in a trailer park.

[@karensurgery3845]

You wouldn't need to worry about that, you couldn't afford it anyway.

[@Charlie-i3v5e]

True

[@Dave-fr8tk]

There is a huge difference between taking risks and being reckless

[@JordoSez]

Not really...

[@vsmichael1]

So right

[@vsmichael1]

@@cutecuddlybearonly for their family. I have no compassion for one’s who do not have compassion for themselves.

[@TheMadcowwww]

I'd say it's a fine line tbh.

[@keniavalenzuela1218]

I 👍 risking a child's life or an adult, in this case, have no excuse. I hope this is a lesson for all. My heart is with their familie. Theyy must be going through a very dark time. God bless them and give them strength ❤

[@yaboinoname]

Being in a small space, zero light, freezing temperatures at the bottom of the ocean. Nightmares couldn’t create that. I pray they went quickly and without suffering.

[@joesmith3908]

@@pianist-yx6otwhy?

[@mikejordan3598]

@@pianist-yx6ot awe why? Rich man bad? Not happy with your own life?

[@halcyon6098]

😂😂😂 nah man... Nah... It was hell

[@BelaRube]

​@@pianist-yx6otwhy on earth?!? would you want to see that???

[@truckerfromreno]

@@pianist-yx6ot Their phones will be full of footage if the sub is ever found intact.

[@reeniem6398]

The CEO was egotistical and thought he knew better than literal experts who warned him of the dangers. He was a sales man who talked his way into the trust of others. Regardless of what others feel about the passengers decision to join this exhibition, they were still people who lost their lives and left loved ones behind. I especially feel for the 19 year old lad who wanted to make his father happy, despite being terrified and not really wanting to go - according to his aunt. At this point, you could offer me 1 million and I wouldn’t go to that wreckage. Leave the sight alone or to the experts. I don’t know much but I just don’t think there should be exhibitions there.

[@Juke582]

I am really angry he changed the dives and refused to refund people who wanted their money back as they could not go!

[@reeniem6398]

@@Juke582 he was clearly someone who had a lot of ego and reckless pride. However, as much as it’s a pain that people lost out on their money, I’m just glad that they have their lives. You can’t replace that.

[@gluonpa6878]

Put rescuers at risk too.

[@yvonnem.langlois5197]

I think there was more than ego here, but unfortunately the CEO's death rules out psychological evaluation or physical autopsy.

[@reeniem6398]

@@yvonnem.langlois5197 oh I agree but I’m not qualified or know the guy to go any further than the obvious that there was ego.

[@johnmorelli3775]

Best comment, "The passengers focused so intently on what they wanted they forgot or didn't care about what they could lose'". Very well said!

[@piotrd.4850]

"... were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should."

[@NipapornP]

If you're dead, you don't lose, or even miss anything, because "you" don't exist anymore. That's the great part of death. It's just a lost for other people, who are still alive.

[@controllerbrain]

​@@NipapornP This is true, upvoted, but the point of the statement still stands.

[@imranmuhammad5857]

🏖 Allah is great an he knows better that what happend down thare so pray because I don't know weare will u die

[@StreetfighterU]

@@imranmuhammad5857😹

[@borleyboo5613]

My worse nightmare. Stuck in a big metal box, two miles down on the sea bed. And with no hope of rescue. My thoughts are with them and I only hope they are no longer suffering. Poor souls. Nobody, be they rich or poor, deserves such a horrific fate.

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

They chose it.

[@turkeydoctor5546]

​@@ArtyFactual_Intelligencenot only chose it. they paid for it

[@yippeeflowers]

​@@turkeydoctor5546so did those on the titanic. so did those on the flights that hit the twin towers.

[@Young_Dab]

​@@turkeydoctor5546They paid for it then paid for it.

[@desertweasel6965]

They may actually be bobbing on top of the water which is worse because you see the sky but are sealed in an air tight tomb.

[@AndyDavis-vc1sc]

I had a brush with underwater danger while scuba diving in Mexico as a kid. I was a second or two from blacking out before I reached the surface after my tank ran out of air at 40 feet below. I swear that incident gave me PTSD, as this particular story has me horrified and feeling ill, and reliving that incident over and over in my mind.

[@rickkey4226]

You had no business diving if you didn’t keep track of your air or easily make free ascent from 40 feet. Did you blow your BC? Please train more before getting into a situation from which you need rescue!

[@thegroovyhead]

@@rickkey4226you don’t know what happened - to quote your friendly opinion, “you have no business” assuming anything about this person’s story.

[@shaw12222]

@@rickkey4226did you miss the part where he was a kid? Do you feel better about yourself now that you jumped down someone’s throat who was telling a personal story?

[@clairewalker9796]

Andy, please consider seeking help for PTSD as the diving clearly still affects you as trauma. As you said, it happened when you were a kid, and perhaps you lacked correct scuba training and/ or felt bullet proof, had no dive buddy & because you were young and didn’t take it seriously enough. Just a guess on my part. The good thing is that you survived it and learned some consequences, however there is no point in living small because of an incident in the past which you may still be beating yourself up about. Get help from a professional, and live free & without that weight on your back. Do it and have gratitude and love for yourself. All the best from New Zealand🫶

[@thatsitvideos]

You haven't lived until you have an 8ft Black Tip snatch the netbag off your hip at 80ft. God I miss Clearwater. 😢 EDIT: The netbag had a nice Grouper in it, incase anyone is wondering why the shark took it.

[@jakemccoy]

I imagine the panic is that of being buried alive, which is my worst fear. My panic would start the moment the first bolt went in from the outside. They would have to stop the mission and take me out.

[@cfonshell]

Once the first bolt loosens, its over in a blink.

[@domodomo4032]

I would have assaulted Stockton 🤷

[@TLR1219]

I'm afraid of that too. And awakening during surgery

[@jakemccoy]

@@TLR1219 I have had a few surgeries. Every time upon awaking, I frantically warn everybody around to stop because my anasthesia is wearing off. Once they figure out what I am saying, they let know the surgery was done awhile ago. My response must be a win for them.

[@RosemaryOltarzewski]

Totally 😮

[@edwardsanchez3708]

I survived 2 deployments to Iraq and one to Afghanistan as a transportation Soldier spending most of my time outside the wire. After that I swore not to put my self in life threatening predicaments. Life is a precious gift but fragile.

[@julieseward1385]

Thank you for your service, Sir..❤

[@goodo5691]

whats that got to do with anything??...i crossed the road and nearly got hit...i swore never to put myself in danger again...get over it

[@thestraydog]

@@goodo5691 I think crossing the road is a much different situation than driving in an active warzone. Grow up.

[@honesttruth8064]

​@@goodo5691Breathe❤

[@goodo5691]

@@honesttruth8064 :):) trying...just wonder why everyone has to tell everyone how brave they are.....when we are chatting about something totally different, but they always slide their story in there somehow:)

[@juliajesson9211]

The sea terrifies me, even huge ocean liners are less than a speck of dust out at sea.

[@mortalclown3812]

Look at all the crossings that happen daily. Cars are far more deadly.

[@faith-hearted1449]

@@watershipdown3630 you don't know what the safety protocol was and how they did it... Certification also doesn't mean anything. It's hard to certify new development because they are.. New... Controllers are also Used by the military. So, until we don't know more, we shouldn't make any assumptions like they are facts...

[@faith-hearted1449]

@@watershipdown3630 you don't know what the safety protocol was and how they did it... Certification also doesn't mean anything. It's hard to certify new development because they are.. New... Controllers are also Used by the military. So, until we don't know more, we shouldn't make any assumptions like they are facts...

[@labotraduc8448]

@@mortalclown3812 Dying in the sea, alone, is more terrifying. We are land creatures.

[@labotraduc8448]

It terrifies me too. When I was a teen, I was on a little boat and went into the water, it wasn't far from the beach but deeper. From the boat I could see plants that looked like little buds. But once in the water, with my mask on, I plundged my head under water and looked, the little "buds" actually were huge plants.... it really freaked me out!!!! I felt so vulnerable, like anything I don't know about could reach me. I felt like a speck of dust floating in an infinite dark mysterious mass. And I wasn't even far at sea.... SO SCARY!!!

[@luciadugliss3888]

Thank you, Dr Grande. Personally, every time I see the wreck of the Titanic it looks increasingly like a decaying corpse and I wish everyone would leave it alone because it is a Tomb.

[@mitchmcturtle6890]

But I want to see it

[@annaverano5843]

We visit our loved ones at graveyards why shouldn't people be allowed to visit the Graves of the Titanic? As long as they are doing it safely and not how ocean gate conducted business. My heart goes out to the 19 year old kid 😢😢😢😢

[@brt-jn7kg]

​@@mitchmcturtle6890then Google it you can see all the pictures of it you want

[@sabrinyahh]

​@@mitchmcturtle6890 BuT i WaNt To SeE iT You know what...if after ALL this, you still want to see it, I say we gather you and all the other idiots in another submarine and let 'er rip.

[@stephenx9655]

@@mitchmcturtle6890well ask ocean gate people to get you there 🙂

[@ukamikazu]

For anyone viewing this video on or around mid October of 2023, the passengers didn't suffer from the implosion. By the time they would have heard the sound of the hull cracking, the immense pressure of the Atlantic Ocean would have caused the air inside to turn into plasma. They were literally flash fried somewhere between 10 and 20 milliseconds after hearing the initial sound of the hull failing; Faster than the pain impulses in their nerve endings could have even traveled to their brains, certainly they never saw it coming because it takes between 100 and 500 milliseconds for their eyes to convey an image to the brain. It was over that quickly for them, thank goodness. Whatever was left was compressed rapidly at the ocean's bottom. There are no human remains.

[@nofrackingzone7479]

You’re wrong the atmosphere inside of the titan could not and did not combust. It’s not physically possible. Did they die instantly yes, did the know is was about to happen, likely when the hull began to crack.

[@marianmaslak]

Jews are responsible for sinking Titanic, because it was struck by Iceberg ..-))

[@markgouthro7375]

@@nofrackingzone7479 Sigh, reading comprehension failure. Read again, the air became plasma because it was compressed so quickly. Look up Gay-Lussac's law.

[@andrestrishak8292]

At the time of this writing, turns out the passengers did in fact have time to panic and stress before they died.

[@smoldragon339]

It blows my mind how someone can run tours of the Titanic wreckage and, apparently, never reflect upon the danger of human arrogance.

[@marygoff3332]

Sadly, human beings overestimate their capabilities sometimes.

[@EyeLean5280]

Excellent point, chinchy.

[@concernedandequal1928]

It blows my mind how you can view the wreckage from an hd tv in a comfortable room, or even look up videos on youtube, but these people CHOOSE to go down for a closeup look through a small window (or possibly a small screen) in a super small, uncomfortable space.... oh and pay millions of dollars for it.

[@geedee1264]

Money and aesthetics, Titanics views would have been obstructed and she would have looked a bit ugly with more than the 20 (TWENTY!!!!!!) lifeboats she already had. With that, after hitting the iceberg add in the confusion and the slow realisation of the fact that Titanic was not only not unsinkable but she was sinking extremely quickly relative to her sister ships , some people didn't even realise the ship was sinking and refused to get on the small and obviously much frailer looking boats

[@ronoutwest]

They made a decision and spent a wad of cash to go down there in that metal bubble. Sad situation but they knew the risks.

[@teksatan4699]

There was an employee that claimed there was signs of cyclic fatigue in Titan and its view port was only rated for a depth of 3k but dove to something like 4 times that depth. As a result, the employee refused to sign off on the vessel, and was *fired*

[@misselanys1219]

Another clause in the lawsuits that are coming

[@jasonboche]

@user-zv7lm8uk7h "Man I hate it when I'm right" - Malcolm, Jurassic Park

[@dianebrady6784]

Take heart.....he probably works for Woods Hole by now.

[@georgehuerta1990]

Well this employees gonna have the last laugh they might have fired him but his name made on the document saying that he approved this thing to go down to those Debs and you have to give him credit to hold his ground and say I’d rather be fired.

[@aaronflagg3573]

@@misselanys1219 there isn't going to be a company or a CEO left to sue.

[@elijahogletree4604]

“The passengers focused so intensely on what they wanted, they forgot or didn’t care on what they could lose “ 12:16 Time. That statement right there, is powerful and relatable to many

[@Clamclam3400]

Thé quote makes me think of dream sea divers who train for years before diving to the titanic reck and collecting some china from deep inside. They take the risk and go after what they want. The difference is that they spend years developing the skill and expertise to dive that far. The submersible on the other hand aimed to provide instant gratification with little effort. Money can’t buy you skills and time.

[@cookie63079]

And you never tell rich people "no". Oceangate fired a whistle-blower who brought up safety concerns.

[@elijahogletree4604]

@@Clamclam3400well said

[@elijahogletree4604]

⁠@@cookie63079it’s unfortunate. Rest in Peace to them .

[@kavalogue]

​@@cookie63079no one seems to really want to talk about any of that. It's just a sad situation prayers for the family ignore the negligence ignore the bright red warning signs ignore the guy that told them this would happen just prey for the family and be a good media consumer

[@scott3343]

I've heard it reported a number of times that they never knew what happened. Maybe not the implosion but it seems to me there would've been some signs that an implosion was imminent: creaking and/or cracking sounds from the hull, maybe stress fractures starting to form. Some telltale signs that a structural failure was underway. My point being, they had to know what was about to happen to them.

[@kathleensullivan4547]

😢I feel that there must have been nose bleeding and then ears just before the implosion...vomiting 🤮 etc..just how horrible 😢

[@nika-pt2pl]

As someone who has claustrophobia since early childhood and also a fear of deep waters this story has affected me to the point of not being able to sleep at night. They were all adults who knew what they were getting themselves into but the 19 year old probably trusted his father to keep him safe.

[@mightymouse473]

Try thinking about all the other catastrophes going on around the world instead of this one and then maybe it'll be less about you and more about the whole real world 🌍

[@samcad-ho3ze]

Same here it’s the claustrophobia and the sensory deprivation that freak me out so badly.

[@nonyabidness4894]

@@mightymouse473 try not being such a rude twat

[@RUDY-COLEMAN]

He's Pakistani so it makes sense he'd make terrible decisions

[@american_cosmic]

@@mightymouse473 oh stfu they're just sharing their experience with this news story... try minding your own fucking business and stop trying to appear morally superior to others, you are no better than anyone else.

[@robertray6021]

Curious fact; in the late 1800's, a book was written about an "unsinkable" ship that hit an iceberg and sank during it's maiden voyage. Ironically, the book was named "The wreck of the Titan".

[@momscookingtofu7583]

It's called "The Wreck of the Titan" and you're right. It was written 12 years before the Titanic sank.

[@catharsismemory]

He prophesied the future.

[@FischerFan]

@@momscookingtofu7583 I have heard about this book, but have never read it. Some people are gifted with the most brilliant of premonitions.

[@tessaducek5601]

I wrote a similar comment. Read that book three times in the 80s. The coincidence is too erie. The naming of this tiny vessel was rather odd? Almost Re-writing the past . If you will. We apparently never learn from our mistakes. 😔

[@CKing-388]

@@momscookingtofu7583 No the book name is Futility.

[@john6986]

I am also a dad with a 19 year old daughter. I am just so emotionally affected knowing there is a dad and a 19 year old son in this extremely terrifying incident.

[@pugettepugs6766]

You wouldn't take your daughter on a trip with a "u may die kek" waver tho, would you

[@landamaika93]

The dad what ashamed in front his son.

[@dangerous8333]

Get a grip.

[@kristiroeowen]

Yeah I have 3 teenage kids and this is hitting me hard.

[@yippeeflowers]

​@@pugettepugs6766go be pissed at the ceo for his 4 counts of manslaughter.

[@ogj13]

Two of my worst fears I would NEVER do even if I was paid millions , or billions. Get in a submersible or whatever that was, and a rocket ship. Going under the ocean that deep or going out in space , literally going out of this world , is so crazy to me and so scary to me.

[@kaym.h.3583]

Right 💯🎯

[@howardgofstein7366]

claustrophobic here

[@howardgofstein7366]

being locked in from the outside….no thx!!

[@NGRevenant]

nothing wrong with submersibles just don't go to 2000 fathoms in a sub made of craft paper and elmers glue and you'll be fine

[@linanicolia1363]

Our bodies are not designed for it. We have to think out of the box to consider it. We would also rely on a lot of other people which always makes me uncomfortable. Independent people have issues with these projects.

[@PolevayaMysh]

I feel really bad for the 19 year old. Yes, he's an adult and technically made the decision himself, but at 19, if four old, experienced dudes, one of whom is your father, tell you it's ok, you believe them. Whether he was excited to dive to the Titanic or had his misgivings, it wouldn't be hard for the others to convince him to go.

[@reviewbrethren8090]

him (19 year old son) the families, and those being forced to comb the water for these dolts, are the only ones i have any sympathy for.

[@hottstepher]

True, but I would’ve discouraged my son from going. I might be ok taking that risk at _my_ big age, but I couldn’t do the same for someone so young. The level of risk is different for him imo.

[@SonyCamry]

@@hottstepher agree only 19 barely lived :(

[@yarnpower]

I agree. We know that the human brain does not mature until age 25.

[@nb8665]

Too much money, not enough brain cells.

[@srper2]

Terribly sad that the teenager was terrified but felt compelled to go with his father and lost his life trying to please his father :(.

[@boogieboss]

Good brave boy

[@a-a-ronbrowser1486]

At least it was quick.

[@Hay8137g]

No he was there to bond not appease

[@sugarplum2467]

As someone who has lost a parent I would personally choose to die by their side rather than be left behing to mourn that loss especially knowing the horrific and STUPID way in which they died. To be honest emotionally speaking he is probably better off.

[@ST-tt8qt]

@@a-a-ronbrowser1486 according to Liz Cross it was not quick. Listen to her video the one before they died. She made two videos.

[@moshwool8309]

As a engineer I'm very shocked no engineering standards or regulations were adhered to. Standards are made for a reason through careful testing.

[@Lollita23]

Arrogance…

[@TURTWIG094]

There were standards and regulations but there were a lot of loopholes which they used to get past regulations

[@Lonsoleil]

​@@TURTWIG094 Loopholes are there on purpose so that people can get around them. And those with money pay politicians a fortune to keep things that way. Just look at our tax code. Looks like their regulatory system needs a redo.

[@cannafarmer]

Are you an engineer?

[@trinibelafonte8239]

Libertarians

[@billanderson1075]

Rush was an engineer and should have known better. Carbon fiber, plastics and aluminum, unlike steel and titanium loaded below their elastic limit, develop micro-cracks and eventually fail. The sub was designed using a carbon fiber hull was designed for one use only, not repeated use. He was warned. This failure is similar to the British Comet airplane design flaw in the 1950s, that every aerospace and mechanical engineer knows about.

[@jo72210]

As a young girl I got stuck in a very small elevator in the back of a store with my friend for almost 30 minutes. Towards the end I was sliding to the floor, we had yelled tried all the buttons, no help. My friend reached up and pushed the doors apart enough for us to slide out. I have never gotten to a small space again. My heart goes out to these poor souls and what they must be enduring or endured. Im praying for a miracle. I had no idea there was a 19 y/o on board.

[@chickenwings6172]

Why is there 67 likes, this girls is trying to make this about her to get likes and idiots are liking this comment.

[@bertuj]

they endured their wildest dreams right before they died in less then 1 second . they didnt experience anything horrific , they could allmost see the titanic and then it just ended . no pain ,no fear , no yelling . it just ended right then and there .

[@871jamie]

Well they’re now fish food so I guess your prayers fell on deaf or non existent ears. Prayer is futile!

[@BMac420]

@@871jamie to be fair, they died before anyone knew they were missing

[@Mossadwins]

@@871jamieprayer won’t fix stupid

[@lilimuyunda5030]

It's been said, that "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it." This is all so unfortunate. Edit: For anyone who is eager to argue that "history has not been repeated". Please try to understand what I am alluding to. The Titanic doesn't have to be recreated piece by piece for this quote to apply. According to reports, both OceanGate and the captain of the Titanic ignored warnings and that cost people their lives. That itself is a repetition of history that could have been avoided. Thank you.

[@marknewton6984]

When will we ever learn?

[@marknewton6984]

@@LowerTheBoom The Titanic has taken enough lives. RIP

[@periodtpooh3021]

Bro this the first time it’s happened to a submersible

[@lilimuyunda5030]

@@periodtpooh3021 but it isn't the first time there's been a lack of precaution.

[@wandafindley8011]

A helmet? In a implosion? Those dear souls were incinerated immediately .

[@yarnpower]

I read that an engineer got fired from that company because he complained the hull material could crack after the repeated pressures at that depth. The exterior should have been tested with ultrasound after every trip in my opinion, looking for minute cracks.

[@jasonboche]

"Man I hate it when I'm right" - Malcolm, Jurassic Park

[@maxmay2151]

Carbon fiber doesn't crack... it shatters. but yes you are correct. it should have been tested... or perhaps they should have gone for a pure titanium design instead.

[@debbysimon120]

I can just IMAGINE what they felt, and every cell in my body is vibrating in fear and anxiety! What a nightmare. Being under the ocean in a tiny cramped tuna can, and knowing your going to IMPLODE. Why would anyone in their RIGHT MINDS fall for such a ride, anybody with a high school education or below would never go for such a risk, RIP

[@timtim-hf3ut]

As a claustrophobic person this story gives me anxiety. I can't imagine the horror.

[@Whatsgoodson]

Me too. Omg it freaks me the hell out.

[@8MunchenBayern8]

Honestly, the best case scenario for them would’ve been for the submersible to have just imploded. It would’ve been an instant quick death for them if he got stuck on a piece of the titanic, or it just lost power and stuck to the bottom of the ocean floor that is a much much worse scenario that I can’t even imagine.

[@sirvilhelmofyonderland]

This may be an unpopular, dark take. But submarines, submersibles, should have a pistol on board. The incomprehensible terror of being trapped until slow death is too horrible to imagine. I’m anti-suicide, but in this case it may be the more humane end.

[@8MunchenBayern8]

100% agree

[@SlayerPrincess]

It’s hard to imagine the claustrophobia and hopelessness of knowing you are stuck in such a small space, running out of oxygen and 2 and a half miles below the water with a hatch that could only be opened from the outside. It’s hard to imagine a worse way to go.

[@beevie4081]

Having had some rescue training, I've got to say I am not a fan of the idea of not rescuing people on the basis of how much they are at fault for their predicament. It would be a little bit like a doctor trying to gauge your worthiness for medical treatment on the same basis. Balancing out the risks, costs, and probability of success are examples of relevant factors during search and rescue. I would rather not worry about who's fault it is, until the mission is complete.

[@Considermethis]

This

[@hulahula6182]

The sub doesn't have GPS locator, they are screwed

[@tonicarr3113]

I think you're right. I also think that the adventurer should incur the costs of search and rescue on an excursion like this, specifically. It's not like they got lost hiking at a national park. Even Everest climbers have to buy extra insurance for being rescued since the process of rescuing puts so many others at risk. So, it definitely shouldn't be gauged by fault, more assumption of risk. They'd be less likely to take these risks if they knew they couldn't/wouldn't be rescued.

[@heather2050]

Thank you! I am horrified by the amount of people making jokes out of this, saying they are already dead, and discouraging rescue attempts due to the circumstances. So glad to see a comment like this ❤

[@beevie4081]

​​​​@@tonicarr3113yes, fault is very relevant when it comes to paying the bills. In many jurisdictions, even a lost hiker could be on the hook for their rescue costs.

[@maisoncosarde877]

I once had a job interview for a VR company. During the interview, I was asked to try out the VR system. The test was a dive to the depth of the Titanic. I felt really sick. It was really scary and horrible. And that was just virtual reality. I can’t imagine what they went through. If they died, I hope it was a catastrophic failure and they had a quick death.

[@nillyk5671]

What is VR? Edit: oghh i thought it had something to do with submarines 😅

[@Aywusgod]

​@@nillyk5671virtual reality

[@onemoremisfit]

There are youtube videos of some very well done virtual walk throughs of Titanic as it was on its voyage, they are done with video game rendering. I can watch them for 10 or 15 minutes and then I start getting woozy, not because it has anything to do with Titanic but for some reason I can't watch video game rendering anymore without getting sick. I wasn't always like that, I used to play Duke Nukem a lot during the 90s, but I can't watch video game rendering anymore.

[@gfk6560]

@@onemoremisfitlink or channel please??! I never heard of such a thing and want to test my mental fortitude

[@dangerous8333]

Seriously? 😂😂🤣😂

[@CandacesCreationzHair]

I love how he gives us all the info before going into everything. Very refreshing

[@kellykane7586]

I am HORRIFIED thinking about the Man who Decided to bring his 19YR OLD SON😢. The panic and horror of this situation compounded by the fact that your child is there, by your side because they trusted your judgement.. I have a 22 yr old and cannot imagine taking her with me on this risky escapade SMH i hope their families find peace 😢

[@noorgonzalez1076]

Revelation 21:3,4

[@veganandlovingit]

When I heard that someone had their child with them I thought, the dad is probably punching out the guy who told them it's safe 😢

[@noseyandneutral]

Y’all are very judgmental. Your 22 year old is an adult and if they have the funds to do this risky escapade then they will, with or without you. As a parent, you should know better that he’s most likely beating himself up during his last moments. Shame on you

[@anythinggoes5574]

Is your daughter hot?

[@ChadDidNothingWrong]

Your kid would have to be so inept to still be relying on their parents judgement as an adult....what is with you people talking about your adult children like they are still your property????

[@pattimccord6372]

The Aunt of the young man said he was leery of going ( afraid) but did it for his father on fathers day.... She said her brother had been fascinated about the titanic since he was a child. How incredibly sad for everyone involved.

[@Benaam007-z5s]

Why did you type leery of going then put afraid in brackets. Couldn't you just type afraid of going 😂

[@marcusrougeau5347]

​@@Benaam007-z5sHe was quoting the aunt word for word. Lol

[@Aengus42]

​@@Benaam007-z5sI knew what "leery" meant. It's a common English word. But I can understand simplifying it for speakers of the various offshoots of English around the globe.

[@j4kgang921]

Well, the dam brother Shoukdve went to see what's left of the " TITANIC "" HIMSELF!!

[@hotmessjess1849]

I think the reason people aren’t shocked by seeing “death” 3 times on a waiver is because most waivers say this even with the risk of death is infinitesimally small. You’ll sign a waiver like this when you undergo anesthesia for dental work or to use VR at an amusement park. And while I think this was an incredible mistake on their part - my point is just that waivers have become a little bit like the boy who cried wolf. When everything comes with a risk of death, you stop taking it seriously.

[@florenciabalori3625]

Also, when people think about dying while doing something risky they imagine sudden death. If they clearly stated that you might spend days bolted in a cold capsule with no lights on and slowly running out of oxygen before you died, I'm sure people would think about it a little bit harder. I just hope the capsule imploded and they died suddenly. I just can't get myself to imagine any other option it's just too horrible my mind can't go there.

[@hotmessjess1849]

@@florenciabalori3625 I agree - I hope it was quick because I can’t even imagine the tortured panic of dying slowly this way.

[@tjayk9127]

See the thing this they normally don’t say this is not up to any safety standards. I think a monkey would think 2 times about getting into one of those submersibles, let alone if he could understand where it was going. The decision making skills those people exhibited is below prime ape levels of intelligence

[@FranSanTeeth90]

Yeah, and I'm always grateful to be alive. Im risk adverse.

[@Julie-si3hi]

Exactly like on pre op paperwork...you never think it will happen to you.

[@jennijenp9617]

The only thing that bothers me was the teen. He originally didn’t want to go period. Had the father not persuaded and listened to his son they wouldn’t have lost their lives, the mom was suppose to go and gave her place for her petrified son to accompany his father. If it don’t feel right it ain’t going to end right. Listen to your intuition is a lesson for all!

[@linanicolia1363]

He was 19, and he wanted to "please" his father. The mother said, originally she was the one going, but they had a change of mind.

[@chrisc1644]

I think it was the other way around. The wife was supposed to go but somehow it was switched to the son ( who never wanted to go)..

[@eugenemotes9921]

The Teen was a Legal Adult.

[@Skullswithdronesinside]

@@chrisc1644You’re right. The mom said he did want to go and they traded places. Either way, he was a kid. It’s just sad.

[@monocyte2210]

what an amazing analysis from Dr. Todd. Im a scuba diver and marine scientist. Ive never went deeper than 60ft in all our shallow-water dive work. even at that depth, there are so many safety concerns. I could not imagine the horror that these people feel if ever the sub did not implode.

[@larrywakeman4371]

SO true, OH my God, I am SO claustrophobic I couldn't even imagine that situation and WHO would pay to do that and put onesself in that situation?

[@GraV21]

Same. Got PADI certified in 2001, and like you said, even between 30-60ft the safety concerns there are incredibly apparent. I can’t imagine how anyone would actually ride in this rudimentary submersible even if they were paid, much less pay $250k each to ride in it. You have to respect the immense power & danger of the ocean, and unfortunately it appears that didn’t happen and they paid the ultimate price. The thing that ultimately would have turned me off, was the fact that people are bolted into the sub. So even if the sub was able to get to the surface, it is still incredibly hard to see and relies on other people getting to it in a certain amount of time. Just an all around sketchy design imo

[@arielsea9087]

I went to a funeral held for my husband’s coworker. He was being certified to become a diver unfortunately something went wrong and he died during the process.

[@glorialange6446]

And that poor 19 year old... it is rare that a 19 year old will EVER think they will die doing dangerous activities. Most will believe they are invincible, or that it would be impossible for death to happen to them.

[@m.h.6499]

That’s well said. That feeling of being immortal. We’re learning now that the brain isn’t fully developed until age 25. I don’t think the 19 year old could have judged the situation adequately. And if he did have misgivings, he may not have wanted to voice them in front of the older men. It’s distressing.😞

[@hotmessjess1849]

He would have trusted the adults on board - kids feel like if something is an option how bad can it be? Horrifying.

[@andrestrishak8292]

At 19, the son was old enough to tell his idiot father that he is not going.

[@anadverb5063]

Great analysis shadowed only by the horror of what you were reporting. So much better than how the major media outlets told the story-your reporting was appropriately dispassionate, scientifically accurate, and in every way complete. Thank you, Doctor.

[@vinkoveveric6549]

I second to that, Dr Grande is truly a professional

[@WezAlJay]

This analysis is way better than how the media reported this incident. A well constructed, well thought, well presented analysis.. well done doctor 👏🏼

[@petergibson2318]

You mean the major American media...the world's worst media outside of Russia and North Korea. The European Media (BBC,ITV, RTE, DW etc..etc..) covered it with their usual professionaism. Hi from Europe.

[@Blues666]

Agree!

[@LaniLanilei]

Ditto

[@empressink_]

The Titanic wreckage should be declared a gravesite. It’s incredibly disrespectful for people to continue trying to go there knowing the risks. Not only are people disrespecting the dead, but they’re acting reckless and could get killed 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Robin_Hood381]

I'm a mountain biker and when I heard that carbon fiber was used on the construction of the vessel, it just brought my mind toward the feelings I have about carbon fiber being used on bikes. Carbon fiber is all the rage in the cycling industry. Its regarded as the premier material for the construction of bike frames. Its supposed to be "stiffer" than alloys like aluminum and steel and are engineered to withstand impacts in certain directions anticipated for stress. They are marketed as being stronger, as resilient as (or more than) and able to tolerate more stress than those alloys and its generally accepted as such by cyclists and the bike industry. However, we who ride bikes can attest to seeing cracked frames, cracked wheels, handlebars snapping etc. Its a common occurence actually. Their rigidity and structural integrity can degrade over time especially after impacts and constant stress of impacts. There can also be the possibility of having imperfections created in the carbon during the manufacturing process. The bike companies usually have a really good warranty process for their frames though. Although I think that carbon fiber is still a great material for cycling and is generally safe for the activity (me personally, I would still choose a good alloy over carbon), it makes me nervous to think that it was used in the construction of the hull of this vehicle which would be exposed to such pressures 2.5 miles under the ocean.

[@the_dark_one6052]

Correct.

[@MEL2theJ]

Excellent comment. Thank you

[@alexanderchapman2525]

Agreed. A commercial submersible manufacturer I saw online uses 90 mm titanium for the hull.

[@mehashi]

Many cycles of compression and decompression. Reminds me of the early aluminium aircraft that would suffer from sudden catastrophic failures. Maybe another case where a bit of elasticity goes a long way over time. Carbon fibre may be stronger for a single cycle but when it fails it is always catastrophic.

[@ajlacostewm]

I watched a tanker train car implode, while scientists were researching what would happen if all the air was removed inside the tanker, it imploded like a coke can and it was 1/2" steel that was just the air that caused the implosion, imagine what water can do under great pressure.

[@mikemccabe5492]

As a former USN Submariner I find your analysis spot on. I wouldn't ride that Disney ride of a sub for $10M. Thanks for the insights.

[@yehmen29]

I was reminded of when the Kursk (a Soviet sub) sank. All hands on board died.

[@tessaducek5601]

To be fair. I think a Disney ride would have been built better checked and re-checked prior.

[@CKing-388]

It likely imploded

[@budwhite9591]

@@yehmen29and that was in relatively shallow waters

[@larrywakeman4371]

SO true, OH my God, I am SO claustrophobic I couldn't even imagine that situation and WHO would pay to do that and put onesself in that situation?

[@RedRoadRunner23]

I hope they passed quickly. I can’t imagine the fear. I also find it very selfish to take such a risk when you have family that needs you around. RIP. Wishing strength and peace for those left behind.

[@everydaywithsandra]

And hundreds of employees and large businesses so many people affected by their actions. Let alone taking your 19 ur old son with you

[@St.CrispinsDayGLORY]

They were billionaires, if they didn't take syanide capsules with them, well 😨

[@nameless1873]

ironic naming it Titan

[@Dustygoodz]

It was a set up 3 ppl on that boat were billionaires and played a HUGE role in cryptocurrency

[@laurenmay2098]

I hope the implosion situation is the case, because I can’t fandom their agony waiting for the oxygen to ended. May their families get comfort for their souls from God, that’s my prayer.

[@petehiggins33]

This incident has generated a huge amount of controversy regarding the "unnecessary" and "pointless" deaths of five people but the fact that twice as many people die climbing Mount Everest each year in similar circumstances goes almost without comment.

[@ChrisAndCats]

Probably because it doesn't trigger a huge costly search & rescue mission.

[@morighani]

idk why people keep bringing up this point time and time again, it feels like virtue signaling to me, because none of you cared either until it was time to make some guilt tripping post on the internet, lol… it got attention because it was a spectacle, involved the idiocy of rich arrogant people, and an ironic spooky twist. the only reason it’s stuck around for as long as it has is because they left the public wondering and on the edge of their seats like a proper show. it will be forgotten soon, like all the rest.

[@LuLu-bj9ef]

As it is their destiny

[@scarlettsunz2099]

It's also a lot like Everest, where you have rich people with no training or climbing background pay exorbitant amounts of money to basically get hauled up and down the mountain....risking others lives, especially Sherpas. Maybe it's just because the tragedies of the Rich are reported on, more than regular people but in so many cases, they seem to take really crazy risks as part of their "personal journey". They do dumb, dangerous things because They Can. And the rest of us peasants get mad because they think that it's just money wasted. Had THEY been a billionaire, they NEVER would take such dangerous risks for fun. I'm not sure that's really true though. When you've got billions, you can only buy so much crap. So they treat themselves to risky "experiences"

[@OGPatriot03]

Let's just be honest with ourselves, a missing Submersible drama is just more INTERESTING than routine extreme sport deaths that happen. - I don't think the occupants being rich has anything to do with it. There's a truth to that old quote about a million deaths being a statistic but a few being a tragedy... It's the way we're wired.

[@therealmrsruttle]

I wonder why someone would put their life at such risk, especially taking your kid. I don’t think there’s any doubt that they’re dead. Tragic. 😢

[@donthatetheflayerhatethega4170]

It wasn’t seen as much of a risk. This same sub has been down there 25 times since 2021.

[@samiam2088]

They may not be, the Australians are hearing knocking every 30 min from deep sea technology.

[@nhmooytis7058]

More $ than brains.

[@TheLoveweaver]

People have always sought adventure and treasures.

[@nhmooytis7058]

@@donthatetheflayerhatethega4170Nope. “Per NBC News, OceanGate Expeditions began offering trips to the Titanic wreckage in 2021 and had only made two previous trips before the June 18 dive. “

[@megja1812]

It’s crazy that such a Dangerous mission didn’t have high standards

[@maskddingo1779]

What low standard did you observe?

[@hillbillyscholar8126]

@@maskddingo1779 The vehicle was never certified as safe for the depths anticipated and anyone involved with the company qualified to do those certifications that refused to sign off on them was summarily fired. This was a sightseeing tour for the rich, nothing more.

[@torgomax]

@russellsmith2442 👍👍

[@ابراهيم_محمد_الازهر]

@@maskddingo1779 maybe having zero way to open the submersible from the inside is a low standard

[@parthenocarpySA]

Such a mission was intentionally designed to get around regulations from SOLAS that may have otherwise kept them alive and safe. This wasn't a scientific expedition, this was for-profit tourism in a libertarian dream boat: minimize safety features to maximize profit.

[@KristenRowenPliske]

My daughter and I were just discussing this earlier today. She gave a theory about risk-taking and the rich, especially the ultra rich, and how they seem numb to what we would consider dangerous behavior because their wealth has protected them from financial strain (and any other kind), so they seek out bigger & more dangerous sources of adrenaline. And I have heard that the submersible was shoddily constructed and made as cheaply as possible. I feel sorry for the boy, who was the same age as one of my girls. If his mother is still alive, I’m sure she must be anguished and overcome with grief.

[@fruitytarian]

It's sad for all the family members but I can't imagine what the 19year old's mother is going through at the moment 😢 as for your theory, I do wonder if that's not due to personality types. In other words, do they take a lot of risks because they are ultra-rich, or are they ultra rich because they are the type of people who take high risks?

[@nzdefrag]

@KristenRowenPliske Kobi Bryant is an example. His wealth ultimately caused his death. If he had not been rich enough to afford the helicopter he would most likely have survuved the car trip to the coaching session. Colin McRae (famous Rally driver) killed himself and his 5yr old son in a helicopter accident - also someone rich enough to have a helicopter but not sensible enough to not try and fly it like a rally car.

[@maggieroodt]

Yeah, I'm sure a person gets so used to your money bailing you out that you start to just adopt that mindset in everything else. Similar to climbers who go up to Everest's death zone where helicopters literally can't go and then expecting people to save them regardless.

[@hellabella8295]

The mega rich THINK they can buy EVERYTHING with money.. and have a warped sense of superiority.. and think because they paid so much it must be safe.. because nobody WOULD dare skimp on safety. The owner of the sub said ‘SAFETY IS OVERRATED AND NOT MY CONCERN’.. so the passengers didn’t really do any homework on this dude.. because I WOULDN’T GET INTO A CAR THIS DUDE OWNED.. James Cameron even over saw the manufacture of the BOLTS used for his vehicle to the titanic making sure they would NEVER FAIL.. so he over saw every aspect of the construction of the sub.. and had many back up options if things went wrong.. unlike this time..

[@Artster8489]

Quite understandable as the ultra rich live in a different world than ours with very different parameters for what we call reality and mortality.

[@fortelewisandrew2426]

They should have told them about Ikaris, who flew to close to sun falling to his tragic death, even though he was warned otherwise.

[@Lea-iv4gn]

Can't even imagine the anxiety and panic mode they felt. Especially that 19 year old boy 😓🙏💔

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Fortunately, at that depth, they would've died instantly, too fast even to fear. That's the one comforting thing

[@Babious]

Being a submariner myself and working around compressed natural gas at 2300 pounds I could only imagine it was an instant fate. And the guy who did this video is a heartless bastard.

[@CatLover-23]

Right... 👍🙏🙏🙏

[@coonjamalay]

it's confirmed that it was instant death

[@Mannwhich]

@@coonjamalay Yes the implosion, obviously. But what about the warning alarms going off just before the hull disintegrated? Surely they were panicking, and knew their deaths were imminent.

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

As someone who is almost pathologically risk averse (I'm reluctant to even get on fairground rides), I can't imagine climbing into that thing and facing the prospect of going literally miles down under the sea. And the thought of taking my son with me too...

[@IndigoBellyDance]

I hesitate to go on fair rides as well

[@sandwichbreath0]

Same. The thought of being bolted in makes me nauseous, even before we get to the submersing part.

[@Nok112]

If this were anyone but billionaires on a voluntary $250k seabed excursion, no one would be searching for them….at least not REMOTELY to this degree. Either way, I hope they are found.

[@MsHburnett]

Won't go down a slide into the kids pool!

[@mikeloper100]

They accumulated money and now accumulate adventures.

[@annabasnatural]

I can’t help but think of the phrase “play stupid games, win stupid prizes.” I’m not saying that this isn’t horrific but how many red flags did you have to ignore to get to this point? 😢

[@nhmooytis7058]

My exact reaction.

[@ecampbell5837]

Really no other way to put it frankly.

[@ciaralovebug360]

That phrase is so over used, old and stupid.

[@aheimdahl5201]

Wealthy people think that they are invincible until they realize they are not.

[@annabasnatural]

@@ciaralovebug360and yet succinctly describes this problem

[@veralubbe6484]

That's a very heartbreaking occurace. May their souls rest in peace. Dr I love how you explain what happened with such feeling and understanding. Greetings and blessings to you from Springbok RSA. 🙏🙌🌹

[@andruchuk]

I heard the story of the first journalist that went down. He was in a Russian vessel, smaller than this one, that got caught in a current and became stuck under one of the Titanic's propellers. After an hour being stuck, they were able to break free finally. It was the first time he thought he might die, despite having been in many dangerous situations previously like covering wars. Catastrophic implosion certainly would be the greatest mercy in this case if they aren't found soon - if they were caught on the wreck, I can't imagine being stuck for days.

[@edf3725]

@andruchuck No Problem said the Russian Skipper in response to the One Word Question of; Okay?

[@sarge6283]

I just watched that video. You can tell that really affected him as well as this happening. So sad

[@Virgox222]

Omg I never heard this story either. Need to look it up thank you for sharing this info

[@noseyandneutral]

@@Virgox222…wow. Common sense really isn’t common

[@Virgox222]

@@noseyandneutral wow! Bullying people who aren’t even talking to you sure is though! Get bent.

[@Darkmattermonkey77]

I was in the navy for a lot of years, on subs. People always asked me how I dealt with the tiny spaces. My answer was this: “I grew up in a single wide trailer, same thing only no windows”.

[@bundevsawhney7578]

You didn't crave fresh air regularly when living in that trailer? Sounds rough but a brief stroll outside is a bit more doable in a trailer park than deep under the ocean lol

[@istateyourname4710]

Toured a sub @ the Chicago museum. I'm not claustrophobic, but it didn't take long to feel uncomfortable. It takes a lot of wherewithal to endure such tight quarters for any length of time.

[@EverAppl14]

There is almost nothing more terrifying in my mind than having to die in a cramped little tin can without any way to reach anyone or control the manner of your own death. My wish for everyone is always that they will lose consciousness before the dying process begins so that it's not a horrific struggle in any kind of way. Just seeing one of my pets slowly die from something the vet couldn't figure out one time- and I opted to try an antibiotics injection for him and bring him home to see if it helped- showed me how unimaginably horrifying a slow painful death without meaningful palliative care can be. I regret my lack of foresight, not realizing how bad it could get for him without enough time left to take him somewhere to be euthanized, and whatever the cause was it was suffocating him slowly. I would never wish suffering like that on anyone. There's something profoundly wrong about it which is far beyond human perception and I don't think many people truly grasp what suffering is like or what it looks like or how bad it can get. People are making memes about the Titan and joking around about millionaires getting what's coming to them, but when you think about the reality of people in that situation- no matter who they are- the extent of panic and suffering is far beyond what is fathomable for the punchline of a joke. No way could I ever laugh about anyone in a situation like that.

[@c.c.6930]

We can only do what we think is right in the moment. Hindsight is great but it is hindsight.."If we had known" of course things would have been different, but we have to live before we have some hindsight on our experiences... I am sure your dogo knew how much you loved him.

[@BrotherBoresIsBest]

It’s scarier when you sit and know the end is coming. That’s torture. If they never find them we may never know what truly happened. Believe a bunch of people will dramatize to make money from shows and movies.

[@kateorwell7203]

100% correct. The fear, the claustrophobia, the panic, the heroics, no one can know unless they experience a similar fate. It's truly fearful.

[@conradscroggins2841]

Absolutely correct - there is nothing humorous about this horrifying mess.

[@grimreefer213]

Yeah I don’t think there’s anything more terrifying than being trapped at the bottom of the ocean with no way to escape, knowing you only have a certain number of hours left of air until your death is imminent, watching the clock tick and the last moments of your life unfold. Short of towing the whole vessel up to the surface, a rescue mission would be impossible. They’re basically doomed to die down there. I feel bad for the crew members and people on board, and their families

[@edgarchegwin961]

Hi Dr Grande, first timer in your channel. You dont need to be a sky rocket scientist to figure out that this type of adventure to 4.000 meters under water, on a pretty much hand crafted submersible made without much survey from the experts on this field had a very high chance to end up in tragedy. Only the teen sensed the horrendous finale prior to the happening. My condolences to the families of the victims. Thanks for taking the time to release this video, rgs

[@minimutt1000]

I have been following this story closely. Your statement about “vicarious claustrophobia” was helpful. When I think about it, I feel grateful for my life as it is and for fresh air to breathe.

[@sunnybeach304]

yes sat in the fresh air, under the sun- feeling grateful for once

[@jwake4803]

A novel named "Futility" was written in 1898 about an "unsinkable" ship, The Titan. History is truly repeating itself.

[@goldshieldinthedark]

Real life is stranger than fiction.

[@geeksworkshop]

babes. It wasn't a ship. It was a sub that sank for a living.... WOW

[@gabriellecunningham7196]

​@@BigBoogookieYeah. Hilarious. 🇦🇺

[@dontthrow6064]

I don't want to be superstitious, but this name seems to be cursed.

[@HoffyRS]

@@LCottonno it was a book written by morgan robertson in 1898 about a ship named the “titan” hitting an iceberg and sinking. Then 14 years later the titanic sank the same way the book describes. Must be a cOiNcEdEnCe

[@bluestreak2701]

I really appreciate your diagnosis of this catastrophic event. I come to the conclusion that the owners and company were living in a self-indulgent bubble and echo chamber. They ignored the advice and warnings from fellow deep sea divers. I am sorry for their loss.

[@Allguitarinfo]

The almighty $ caused it... A inspection was needed.. not done

[@bradparker9664]

I only hope they are held accountable for their greed driven arrogance.

[@TheStar798]

Worse - they attacked and sued those with more experience who warned them that the Titan was a death trap! smh 🙄

[@Lonsoleil]

I couldn't agree with you more. Surrounding one's self by yes men ends in disaster 100% of the time. Entire nations have fallen because of this.

[@SKDYCAT]

​@@bradparker9664he died so I guess so lol

[@mcgavin098]

I notice people tend to speculate that the submariners were instantly killed and did not suffer. This bias helps them feel better about this horrific event. No one really knows the timeline of the actual implosion.

[@grumblesa10]

Not really speculation. It's physics.

[@FungeHucker]

The events before, maybe they knew. The actual implosion part would be instant, however. That's how implosions work.

[@douggale5962]

How fast do you think a hull fragment will accelerate with 7000 psi on one side, and 15 psi on the other side? For each square inch of area, it will have 6985 lb of thrust toward the inside. At least hundreds of gees of acceleration. One gee, is 35.15km/h per second. So over 3500km/h per second of acceleration. At least. What do you think was the temperature of the gas inside the hull? 7000psi is 476 atmospheres, so the temperature rise would be 476 times room temperature, 139000 C, right? 293.15K * 476 - 273.15K. Gas law. It won't reach these ideal numbers, but these numbers give you an idea of how hard the hull hits you and how hard it squeezes down there.

[@mcgavin098]

@@douggale5962 I've seen all the recreations and animations. The sub was equipped with alarms to notify passengers when there was a hull breach. Much like the Edmund Fitzgerald sinking there was no way to establish a timeline. The crew may have been terrified for what was only mere seconds but would undoubtably seem like hours. Speculation started to think the crew was just stuck on the bottom and would slowly run out of breathable air. I don't doubt your physics. I just noted everyone's relief when they believed the sub broke up and killed everyone inside instantly and therefore painlessly.

[@angelabarrera24]

It is such a sad situation. I find it disgusting that people are making fun of these men for what has happened. I understand that they took a risk that was unnecessary but they still don't deserve to be ridiculed. They have families who love them and were expecting them to come home. My prayers are with their families.

[@joanofarcxxi]

I agree with you. I am disturbed by some of the terrible comments. Lack of compassion and disrespect.

[@gillsejusbates6938]

coming from extreme wealth, these comments are a goldmine money cant buy

[@petedavidsen1760]

They were idiots for taking that chance just to see the horrible death that 1500 people experienced, it’s like getting excited when seeing a bad highway wreck, sick fucks.

[@trevorbyrne4668]

None of them deserve ridicule, and it's especially ghoulish to do so while they might be experiencing what Dr Grande describes right at this moment. The CEO of the company, though - who's also the pilot and in the Titan right now - seems a dubious character. If he's saved - and I hope he is - he has serious questions to answer. He publicly laughed at and mocked the idea of a safety-first approach and his craft, which anyway (according to experts I've listened to) isn't up to standard. In fact his company intentionally dodged having the Titan measured by the industry standards. What a disaster.

[@thegroovyhead]

Thank you. Simple kindness is becoming harder to expect from anybody, and the internet is one of the worst shows of people’s sleaze-displays.

[@pambennett3390]

The death of the 19-year-old who went just to please his father is the true tragedy. It was Father’s Day and though he didn’t want to do it, he wanted to do this with his father. Do a segment on what kind of father takes his child on tnis kind of suicide activity.

[@marknewton6984]

Yes how bored did the father have to be? Tragic for the son.

[@Brenda-in8bd]

So 8ncredibly sad this is.

[@RealwithAida]

@@skepticalextraterrestrial2971 exactly

[@CautionBeforeCoffee]

The father didn’t know, the blame lies with Ocengate not the father

[@robertm.-certifieddaytrade4939]

@@CautionBeforeCoffeeActually it goes deeper then that! The hull was constructed under the supervision and instructions of NASA. Mr. Rush’s instructions were to make the hull 7 inches thick, it was mistakenly made ONLY 5 inches thick! Why he didn’t argue for a remaking of the hull is a mystery...maybe he was running out of money and forebodingly just accepted the lower specs...?

[@thuaug4417]

I am claustrophobic and this story has kept me up late feeling sick the past two nights.

[@HappyRoach1]

A fellow claustrophobic and a very long time Titanic fan (even before the 1997 movie). I'm usually okay until, I see footage of people in the sub all cramped together. I start imagining myself in there and then I gotta open a window and get fresh air.

[@sharmilanand1664]

Me too I shiver when I see this news

[@bunnymad5049]

Bach Flower Rescue Remedy Pastilles are very good at helping with anxiety and sleep. xxx But check ingredients in case of allergy. xxxxx

[@aheimdahl5201]

I'm not Claustrophobic but I am Thalassophobic, and this situation creeps me out for real. Even though I am not Claustrophobic, imagining the inside of that Vessel under these circumstances, made me feel that way. I definitely understand where you are coming from.

[@Crokatec]

I wonder if being stuck in a cramped sub in pitch darkness with limited oxygen is worst than cave diving and getting your body stuck between the cave walls and unable to move

[@bonniejulien8505]

That Rich dude felt really secure in his riches,but if he could undo what just happened on that submarine ,he would give it all up.

[@ritirons2726]

Thank you for commenting on the risks to the search and rescue personnel. This is the very type of incident that leads to another, yet completely avoidable accident. As a search and rescue specialist myself, my feeling is it’s unfortunately time to scale the operation back before a person(s) get injured or worse. Unfortunately at this point, even if the vessel was located bobbing on the ocean surface, the likelihood of survival is extremely unlikely.

[@alpyki2588]

Especially since even if they do locate the vessel on the surface, its still bolted shut. They'd have to either get the original ship that helped put the sub in the water, or find some way to break through the hull, before they suffocate. Its even doubtful they have the 96 hours of air they claim to have.

[@boss_niko]

But what about the bodies? Dont you wanna know what actually happened inside the vessel?

[@stratafm]

​@@boss_nikoI'd say a lot of people would like to know, yeah, but you can do a recovery search at a slower, less dangerous pace than you can a rescue effort.

[@Trashman702]

@@alpyki2588a NAVY or CG vessel would have no issues getting in

[@bigbadvoodooMAGAdaddy]

​​@@Trashman702 have no doubts about that, I would get in too, getting out of that nailed coffin however would be pretty tricky, I could extend the life by pinching off the oxygen slightly and making everyone go to sleep, once they asleep they'll take up less oxygen, but you might only get an additional 20 hours. Too bad they didn't have me as captain! But I'd never get in that deathtrap.

[@croatoansounds]

The “bolted in from the outside” is just completely god damn insane. They could be adrift on the surface, and suffocate??? God what an awful thought I used to feel a bit worried on the submarine ride at Disneyland haha. Not fully claustrophobic… but in something THIS small, pshhh I’m officially claustrophobic

[@THEHOAG4]

The submersible was no doubt a terrible vessel if you can even call it a vessel. It looks like it was built in somebody's backyard with duct tape and scrap metal. With that being said it being bolted down from the outside really had no effect at all. They were two and a half miles deep in the ocean if there was a hatch on the inside it wouldn't have helped the situation at all. They were afloat they would have been found by now with all the Personnel they have out there.

[@cannibalvegetableyt]

As soon as I found out the port was not certified for the depth it was descending over and over again, I said "it imploded, they're gone" and it seems like this is the case. Methinks the "recovery" effort was to pacify the extremely wealthy families involved-they were attached to the boat, they knew the vessel was gone.

[@rosiekapun207]

That would make the most sense. They probably knew but had to make things happen so they wouldn't face backlash ( which is sort of stupid because rescue workers may very well be putting their lives at risk).

[@strangelove0108]

They absolutely knew it was gone. The Navy said they detected an anomaly that is consistent with an implosion right after the Titan lost contact with the surface. It’s too bad they didn’t find the debris right away instead of wracking up millions in rescue efforts over 5 days. It’s also a shame that companies, especially wealthy companies charging quarter of a million per person, are not on the hook for paying for those rescue efforts when their clear negligence was the cause of this situation. So.. millionaires and billionaires make their money off us then we foot the bill when their stupidity and recklessness causes all this damage. If this was a wildfire started by someone doing like a fiery gender reveal, the person is deemed responsible. The billionaires’ and millionaires’ families can afford to pay this bill in this case. 🙄

[@peaceseeker9927]

The big rescue effort made for a sensational story in the media but I was not impressed. Those people knew how dangerous it was to go down there in that vessel which was all for bragging rights and thrills but nothing constructive. The boy lost his life under the influence of his foolish father. Another case of playing stupid games.

[@purepearls2013]

I think maybe ceo had other intentions. He was in middle of lawsuit for fraud. Plus he didn’t want safety checks. He k ew what he was doing makes you question his intentions that day.

[@kavalogue]

This whole thing is sickening not sad. You hit the nail on the head. Lied to the entire world used up all those resources, manhours, hope, mental strength of everyone directly involved, despite knowing what had happened, all to keep some rich people happy. The rich families of the same rich people who bought themselves into this insanely dangerous endeavour that was destined to fail. People should be angry and not mourning.

[@ED-es2qv]

It appears they had enough warning to attempt emergency surfacing by dropping ballast, but imploded before communicating why they were dropping ballast. Cameron said the tender crew told him the sub was trying to drop ballast and the locator beacon stopped at the same time as comms lost. The next morning Cameron learned that sonar had picked up the implosion at exactly the time comms was lost. The sound couldn't be located, so the searching went on.

[@KB-wl4ip]

As the hours tick by I feel increasingly sick about what these people are going through, primarily the father and son since they have the added terror of losing eachother. Very, very sad.

[@YourEnglishGuy]

Totally agree. I was thinking about it all evening at work.

[@LisaAnn777]

It imploded they arent going through anything.

[@Matt92Machine]

Well at least the father and son have some comfort in knowing that they are going together.

[@captainshakesbeard2453]

I bet they're sat around a lantern. Smoking cigars and playing poker.

[@Jay-gf8tm]

They have been dead for two days already

[@annetyrie2596]

thank you for mentioning all the people who are potentially putting their lives at risk in the rescue operation.

[@patrickbateman368]

I don’t know how you do it doc, you post such quality content so frequently, no one else on KZbin is at your level when it comes to frequency

[@gondolacrescent5]

The reason doc is able to make such a profound, powerful and memorable impression is by delivering his message without emotion and very little passion. He relies on his reason.

[@jasonfield3903]

Yep!!!

[@brianrodney712]

@@gondolacrescent5 The good doctor does allow a smidgeon of levity to creep into his messages.

[@JackieOlantern]

Yep. She demands respect and will punish you if you don’t respect her.

[@theprior46]

Superbly objectively reported with such clarity and - well, I can't find the words to describe how good this report is. Everything put to rest in a fine logical way and nothing dogmatic or opinionated. Best thing I've seen so far on the tragic and avoidable disaster.

[@chrisakins692]

Former submariner, current Clinical Psychologist. There was likely no panic. An implosion at that depth would likely be instantaneous and come without warning.

[@pendragon3434]

Zero expertise in this subject, but I've seen it reported in multiple sources that the submersible possessed some sort of sensor that could warn if the pressure hull was beginning to fail. That coupled with other reports that they had dropped their emergency ballast makes me think they had a brief moment of realization. I hope that's not the case though and that I'm misunderstanding something.

[@Halfdead211]

You think 5” of carbon fiber just imploded with out giving any sound or sign before imploding?….Doubtful…

[@shaniparks6058]

@@pendragon3434I heard that as well from James Cameron himself during his initial interview. He then backtracked but I think that was done to give relief to the public response of the loss and carelessness of the expedition.

[@squinkygordon1322]

James Cameron also said that they likely heard a noise or noises as the hull was undergoing delamination. (In my mind, I'm picturing the sound of bubble wrap being popped, for some reason). The weights were dropped on the vessel, as if they were attempting to ascend. I'm not sure if that happened automatically or if Stockton Rush manually released them. As low tech and "off the shelf" as the craft was, I'm leaning towards the latter... It's hard for me to understand the purpose of the warning system that informed the pilot of the hull undergoing catastrophic failure. What good is that at two miles depth in the ocean under such incredible pressure? It may as well flash on the computer screen, "You are about to die!"

[@paulburns3039]

They dropped weights so they must of knew something was wrong!

[@Badgerbadger1]

The communication situation was even worse. Stockton Rush found the surface vessel's procedurally necessary check ins annoying so he got rid of any real comm systems in favor of a setup where the sub would send the location automatically at set intervals. The stupidity of the choices this guy made in the sub design boggle the mind.

[@offgridjack5779]

Probably because he wanted total control over what was being said that the passengers would be able to also hear. If he got warnings to come back up by the ship, he didn't want the passengers to know. Total control freak.

[@Badgerbadger1]

@@offgridjack5779 I think that's also the real reason why he only hired young college grads instead of experienced Navy sub veterans. They're not only cheaper to hire, but they're easier to bully into going with what you want.

[@carmattvidz4426]

well when your wealthy only because of your last name you are not going to demonstrate many skills, knowledge or common sense. Think about his background. This guy had maids and house servants all his life.

[@VIP-rp3oq]

​@@Badgerbadger1yes very good comment.

[@doreendaykin6693]

🙏💙👏👏Well said! 100% agree.

[@thecynic9232]

Claustrophobia came with age for me. I had to give up scuba diving due to newfound terror I felt when diving. This story gives me the claustrophobic horrors.

[@jekw23]

Interesting. So you never had it and it came through experience? Most would assume it works the other way and you build up a resilience. Did it happen slowly over time or did it just hit you in one go?

[@thecynic9232]

@@jekw23 No the claustrophobia was slow … my other problem was a lifelong fear of water but I grew up on Jacques Cousteau, and I just had to dive, so I did. I was certified 3 years after Jaws came out. I was young then 😉

[@victoriabenton8378]

Me too!

[@stevesvids]

I acquired my Padi Open Water Qualification at a disused quarry in UK called Stoney Cove. I cant recall exact depths but we hit bottom near to 40m. It was so dark, so murky. I remember looking up and that was my mistake. It seemed nothing existed except water ontop of me with only a faint glimmer of light flickering. I realised my vulnerability and predicament should anything fail. I tried a few dives abroad after that but never shook off those fears especially on my last dive where without warning dive buddies entered caves at about 20m. Sod that. Ive never dived since and never will again.

[@madelynhernandez7453]

Me too, this has triggered me to no end.

[@maureen14]

It's unbelievable that things like this don't have to be regulated.

[@kenhofer8063]

Can’t regulate every inch of the world

[@JaxonSmithers]

@@kenhofer8063 When there is a high risk of death it should certainly be regulated. Common sense 101.

[@linanicolia1363]

Loopholes.....since these ventures are usually funded by private individuals, the laws get lax. If the government had been involved, in some scientific project, the rules would have been more rigorous ; especially since it involved the tourism issue ; but the company was still " private:". Well, the passengers signed that release, that had the word "death" 3 times in the first page. Should have been a red flag. Not for claustrophobic people......many would never get into such a contraption. No way. Makes me think of sardines.

[@HeavyMetal45]

Who’s gonna regulate it 😂😂😂

[@mnelson2275]

Be well everyone and take comfort in the fact that the crew of Titan died so quickly there was no pain and no panic at all.

[@roberthooper8883]

says who? The media HA!!! If you trust them then I have a bridge to sell you... The actual experts are saying they had dropped their weights to come back up and had likely signs of problems.

[@olisafreund6638]

Terrible everlasting pain awaits in the other side bc there IS a HOLY GOD WHO judjes all, If THEY did Not REPENT OF their SINS, turn WITH their whole Heart TO JESUS, believed in the finished Work of the Cross, steived TO live HOLY, were Not doers of Gods Word...THEY are unfortunatly Endung Up in hell, Check YOUR bible AND get SAVED NOW BEFORE ITS too late in eternity GOD Bless YOU.

[@Baraka_Obama_]

​@@olisafreund6638Biden loves you

[@ralphramsey82]

You're right, any other death would been a nightmare of suffering.

[@mikethebike2456]

​@@olisafreund6638🛵 Jesus. God. Blah, blah blah ..

[@Swansong321]

This is my WORSE nightmare...I can't breathe when I imagine whatever scenario happened...

[@LindaKayHolevas]

Same. I was literally hyper ventilating earlier today while watching videos regarding this tragedy. I cannot even imagine the terror & horror they went/are going through. So very sad 😔

[@Charlie-i3v5e]

I know. I feel like I am suffocating just thinking about it.

[@pallasathena1369]

A few years back I made the mistake of going to see 48 Meters at the movies, it took weeks to stop thinking about that horrendous film - almost had panic attacks in the cinema.

[@spencertegtmeyer6525]

Worse than what

[@KarrierBag]

I ended up sunk in a canal in the UK in a land rover after having a seizure and that was bad enough, a policeman dived in got me out and saved my life, he risked his life doing so as this was in the dark in winter and we had a lovely meet up a few weeks later, he is a star. People in this 'Titan' horror have no chance of survival IMO.

[@brianford8493]

Feck a true horror show.....how did it shape you?

[@amm0814]

That’s beautiful. I’m glad that you had a hero that risked his life to save you ❤

[@KarrierBag]

@@brianford8493 well am still here, had another a few weeks later and came around in the canal after falling g in which have no memory of and fighting to get out, battered all over myself and now been diagnosed epileptic so no driving or work so am taking it careful and got myself a self inflating life jacket. This started in Feb this year and am as positive as I always am it is what it is. There is a bit of video of landrover being got out on my channel.

[@johanconradie2120]

beautiful story... give G. the glory

[@british.scorpion]

That bobby who saved your life was in the right place at the right time. I hope whatever caused your seizure has been identified and cured. Enjoy every moment. I'm on 'extra time' too😊 Hopefully, strangely to say, they died quickly without time to realise the implosion. Otherwise it's a slow lingering death. Either way it's tragic. The tourism to Titanic should be banned, leave her to the ocean, and the history books.

[@DollarsMae]

Taking risks is doing this in a safely built vessel. Reckless is building a faulty vessel and using it in such a risky action. In any event the engineers also should be held responsible also everyone involved.

[@jimbobshambles]

What a horrifying experience these poor souls must have gone through. Rip to all 5

[@MyMomSaysImKeen]

The world lost some great business leaders, and a erudite CEO who will be wrongly pilloried for this failure.

[@JesusLightsYourPath]

I have mixed feelings about it. I view it as dumb as people who free climb on really tall buildings. You're purposely putting yourself in harms way. Regardless, I don't like to know that a human has suffered.

[@MadScientist267]

1. They did it to themselves, whatever happened. 2. How would this clown know anything about what they experienced whatsoever 🤣🙄

[@jen-a-purr]

@@MadScientist267Aw upset much? Bc you know so much more right? Anyways moving TF on..

[@MadScientist267]

@@jen-a-purr Clearly got a better grasp than some shrink lol 🙄

[@tommccormick9290]

That's so weirdly ironic. To go on a voyage to look at a wreck and end up becoming a wreck themselves.

[@LisaAnn777]

Maybe we can use them as a tourist attraction next 😀

[@wrAIth-AI]

​@@LisaAnn777Too expensive. I'll wait for the DVD.

[@BenRai2k]

In a way all honesty, most people visit grave sites anyway. What I find more exploitative, as compelling as the stories may be, are all the true crime channels making money off using other people's deaths as entertainment.

[@sunitamosesesq]

Not to mention the infamous book named The Wreck of the Titan, which famously predicted the sinking of the Titanic. Irony abounds...

[@nattyboh1145]

Yea that isn’t something to joke about especially if you and your child are the ones that decide to come visit. Families are destroyed mentally, emotionally, and much more, but since your stupid ass isn’t locked in that tomb yourself you want to joke about it. Grow the fuck up! Yes, what they did was flaunting with their money. Still doesn’t give you the right to comment as a joke you dumbass. I served in Afghan multiple times and I felt like it was a bad situation just like this especially if you were flipped upside down from an IED. You don’t get it especially when the CEO JUST ignored the safety side or what he shouldn’t done bc he wanted some funds to help him continue it. He killed those people and he made comments to say they are the “SAFEST” people on the tour yet he cut corners to make money. Money can’t save your life. SMH you don’t get it

[@paulaelizabethg]

To protect ones child is such a deep instinct. I would have like Dr Grande to comment more about the psychology of a person who would not only take extreme risks with their own life, but their childs life too.

[@CarrieLiketheM0vie]

Unfortunately, not all parents have that instinct.

[@BanjoPixelSnack]

Can only imagine that when you’re a billionaire you might get the notion that you’re impervious to danger and you get used to easily getting what you want when you want. Detached from reality. Either that or just a very stupid man.

[@charlotteallenny]

I think there are a lot of parents who adhere to an idea of "acceptable risk," especially when it comes to adventuring with adult children. I *highly* *highly* doubt the father knew the true risks. Listening to employees and hearing interviews of the CEO, it seems like the "tourists" on board - the man and his son - were probably given the impression that it was within the realm of such acceptable risks associated with going on adventures, exploring new places, etc., and were likely _encouraged_ to think that way by the company/CEO. For the risks of riding in Titan to be shrugged off and essentially equated with the risks of living is absurd and irresponsible. I'd bet that passengers were made to believe the risks were negligible, the contract notwithstanding. I've signed waivers that mention possible death several times, for things like bungee jumping, a concrete slide on a mountain where people use sleds to "ride" down the slide, and even ice skating. There are waivers for everything, and consumers are going to assume due diligence and moral responsibility on the part of the company that offers whatever attraction they're offering. The CEO of Ocean gate gives off the impression that "not certified" is just a negative way of saying the Titan was cutting edge. I'm willing to bet that, had the 19 year old expressed worry and asked something like, "Are you sure it's safe?" he was probably answered by Rush with, "well of course everyone says it's risky, but you've got to take risks to live! This beauty is tested for depths further than we're going today, so don't worry. Plus, I've done it three times already!" (In fact, that he'd taken the Titan down three times prior to this actually made it _less_ safe, not more...another fact I'm willing to bet was never mentioned for the passengers who weren't from the deep-water scene.) I understand risks. I also understand your sentiment about parents protecting their children. That actually, to me, strengthens the idea that the extreme risks of this particular adventure were not properly outlined, otherwise a father would not have taken his boy aboard. That's the problem here that I think is making so many of us angry - that the risk factor here was made to sound like it was an acceptable risk when the reality is that it was an extraordinarily risky endeavor. I doubt, for example, they disclosed the fact that employees had been fired for refusing to even send anyone down in a work capacity to test the thing, or that there was a letter signed by professionals suggesting to Oceangate that they cease operations until things changed, that it wasn't safe. That such information was known by the company and not clearly indicated to paying passengers is beyond reckless, it was negligent. And now five people, the CEO included, are dead from such hubris and irresponsibility. But back to your comment, I agree with the sentiment, parents feel the need to protect their kids, I just think it's wrongly applied here because it assumes the father knew the true risk, and the things we're learning about Oceangate every day suggests the true risk was deliberately held back from passengers, and so the father likely thought the risk was a mere fraction of what it was in reality.

[@matemarika86]

And for taking advantage of a discount offered by the CEO.....

[@savevlad6912]

Because the wealthy believe nothing could ever happen to them.

[@imeldahiggins-wiffle8302]

Aside from being made of carbon fiber, the Titan was dragged behind the support ship on a diving platform for FOUR DAYS...it got the Hell beat out of it before they took it down for the last time...that's a ROUGH ride for the Titan and it's electronics. Sad all the way around.

[@justnana13-klj40]

I wrote a senior theme paper on RMS Titanic, after becoming rather infatuated after reading "A Night to Remember". By this time, it had been found less than 10 years. As i started seeing pieces brought back from the resting point, i felt weird. Knowing people were interested - i loved that. The other part- i felt some things were disrespect. Like- leave the things down there. Like a memorial? I dont know. I feared the outcome, figuring it was an implosion. Maybe some things sre best respected from a distance. RIP to those lost in 1912, and those of 2023.

[@Ms.Stephanie.C]

Yeah I’ve always felt the RMS Titanic’s resting place is a mass “grave” resulting from from a terrible tragedy, & should be left alone to rest under the ocean. That’s just my personal opinion & I am not judging anyone who wanted to see the site. I for one wouldn’t be going down there! It’s all very sad … my heart hurts for those who were lost, & especially those grieving their deaths.

[@dakotatahran4877]

This comment reads like a poem

[@MissNancy]

Yes, "respect from a distance" is perfectly stated.

[@AmreeHolliday]

I was telling my husband the other day that the ocean is like another planet. The miles and miles of depth, there is no doubt there is life form we don't know about down there. A quarter of a million dollars is absurd, such a tragic story.

[@j4kgang921]

I dont even wanna know wats alll waay down there!💯

[@evilearthego5256]

@@Plutogalaxynot $250,000

[@youtubecensoringcomments7427]

Space is way bigger lol

[@TheDouble333able]

@@evilearthego5256more like a million. To get safe technology and tested like nothing else is expensive. decommissioning subs after a few trips is also necessary for a sub line Titan

[@youtubecensoringcomments7427]

@@annacarrie269 yeah but in proportion it is way lower... Lol

[@simonefeaster5131]

Your final remarks on OceanGate are spot on. What a horrible (preventable) tragedy.

[@SFbayArea94121]

It’s just yet another example of people being stupid as usual.

[@wheatstonebridge]

Preventable and horrible is exactly correct.

[@wheatstonebridge]

​@@pianist-yx6otnot sure if you have a mental disability or not. Do you understand what happened?

[@GorgieClarissa]

the mom of the teenager came out and confirmed that he wasn't scared. he actually took her seat and he brought his rubix cube to set a world record solving a rubix cube at that depth. it's still sad, don't get me wrong, but for those of you that were like me and felt bad bc he was pressured to go and he was already terrified, he wasn't. her name is Christine Dawood if you want to search the interview.

[@americanbeauty4015]

A friend of mine suggested - seriously - that they could well have encountered a giant squid that caused damage to the ship. This is not as farfetched as some may think. The ship resembled some of the prey of giant squid, and they are found at deep depths in the ocean - to the point only one has been photographed alive in its habitat.

[@MattCurrieImprov]

I had thought the same thing.

[@nobody8328]

I hadn't thought that, thank you. That is indeed a valid option. Yikes 😖

[@susanazinger2525]

Certainly something to think about ...

[@davesynth3860]

It could have mistaken it as a young sperm whale, it’s primary prey

[@TransoceanicOutreach]

LOL SQUID DO NOT EAT SPERM WHALES. ITS THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

[@narcissistninjas9233]

Excellent analysis as usual. I grew up in Newfoundland and the story of the Titanic was embedded strongly in our culture. I always felt that people shouldn't be exploring the Titanic. It's sacred ground...just a thought.

[@crand20033]

And nothing to see except and decaying chunk of metal that barely resembles a ship that I can just as easily and more safely see on youtube.

[@junebb131]

Well said xxx

[@annavizard970]

I agree!

[@picklep9812]

I think you are correct

[@erikhendrickson59]

@@crand20033 Actually there is *_SCIENTIFIC_* value to the Titanic wreck, which in mind allows us to honor the dead and ensure that they didn't die totally in vain. But this wasn't science, this was purely joyriding. Specifically, the Titanic wrecks is being slowly devoured by bacterium that exist nowhere on Earth and are actually able to metabolize solid steel and iron. Luckily as a result of that, the wreck will soon be considered too dangerous to dive as it becomes more and more unstable.

[@waynecribbs786]

Just discovered Dr. Grande and appreciate his no nonsense unemotional assessment or evaluation of this situation. Looking forward to watching other videos of his. And his voice is relaxing 😊

[@dianab6852]

My thoughts exactly. Very well said/ presented.

[@michellevaughan8333]

I too have just discovered Dr Grande! I think I'll listen to his soothing voice on headphones tonight when I go to bed, may help me sleep 😴 💤 Thanks again Dr Grande, the soothing analytic voice of reason 😊

[@beccac6812]

Yes ! I watch his videos when it anxious which sounds backwards because it’s about murder and crime but it relaxes me weirdly

[@Flamsterette]

His videos are awesome!

[@MtHelicon2077]

At timestamp (10:45) "should be able to escape " No escape trunk in any universe, would have helped, at that depth , you're dead Even if you could get out , instantly.

[@Dustparticle000]

Exactly

[@navypti]

Excellent analysis Dr Grande. I'm sick to death of the media BS. You have put this issue into real perspective. Thank you.

[@valiakloeppel7252]

Amazing how the unprepardness of the Titanic wasn't absorbed. I feel sorry for the child who depended on his Dad. 💔

[@mmnde12]

He was not a child but a young man.. 19 years old if I’m not wrong

[@jamesstanley8294]

​@@mmnde12Still a young man HE TRUSTED his dad!!

[@charliegoodnight7560]

@@jamesstanley8294he should of trusted a certification test 😂.

[@ElizabethF2222]

Yes and that's why I have so much respect for Elon Musk. He tests and tests and tests again, making sure all safety measures are taken and even though it's more expensive, Teslas are the safest cars on the road. Although he can afford to be reckless, he is never willing to pay for his adventures with human life.

[@Carolinagirl1028]

​​@@mmnde12 young man yes but at 19 years old the rational part of his brain isn't fully developed. He likely relied of his father's rationality to make his choice. I am not blaming the father, he obviously felt it was safe enough. It is just a sad tragedy all around.

[@blodwen6946]

I simply can’t get my head around the fact that people would want to undertake such a journey. So ghoulish. However really hope that they will be found.

[@hydrohasspoken6227]

Why do people smoke knowing cancer will come after them?

[@CapteinRiggs]

Rip

[@kamilebrahimoff3589]

Unfortunately, ocean disaster are found after 75 years.

[@CapteinRiggs]

@@LCotton Sorry.

[@St.CrispinsDayGLORY]

They did it for bragging right, trust me. They ALL do. Even Cameron did, and to make money out of it. God saw this and avenged.

[@hankhouke]

Big fan Doc! Here is a clear scenario from a manufacturers viewpoint. The decent was too fast, this told me the thruster they reported "stuck on, running in downward thrust" was doing so from the start. This ran down the #1 battery on the decent, and is a tell tale sign of a short circuit. I believe this was in the outside electrical compartment, and due to flooding. Their weight was very close to estimated maximum, but after this minor flooding, they could have been in negative buoyancy, fighting a downward thruster. Some last communications were that they were "rising very slowly", but the #2 battery would have been at full load and couldn't last long. If the craft was well designed by it's creator and victim, the crash site would give evidence of implosion on contact with the bottom. (implosion by impact, a crash) I hope this comes out in the investigation, just to partially restore the reputation of a guy who had a dream.

[@pearlvader]

Great insight and explanation dr. Grande. I feel terrible for the 19 yr old man who, unfortunately met an untimely horiffic demise, and told his aunt he was terrified to take this trip. This was a preventable situation. Curiosity and recognition trumped over safety. The families will never recover from this loss. I don't know much about seafaring, and I don't understand why a father would include his son in such a high-risk environment. Condolences to all the families.

[@MeganVictoriaKearns]

The father, however at fault he may have been for not investigating the safety of this vessel prior to signing on the dotted line, wouldn't have gotten on board HIMSELF if he was not 100% confident it was a safe excursion. So I doubt very seriously that the father persuaded his own son to climb aboard a submersible he himself believed to be dangerous. People keep saying 19 year olds are adults and he could've said no to going with his Dad. Sure, his father couldn't legally FORCE his son to go along, but a 19 year old (a typical one, anyway) despite his complete and total right to make his own choices, is still extremely partial to following his parents' lead. 19 is legally an adult, which is the argument I keep reading. But that doesn't mean 19 is "grown up". 18 is just an arbitrary number selected a LONG time ago, by people who have now been dead for decades, to represent legal rights to marriage and eligibility for voting and military service. Those who pulled out the age of 18 and labeled it "adult" made that determination many decades prior to there being ANY understanding of how the human brain matures.

[@sandrellalis8834]

One should also keep the cultural background of father and son in mind. In Pakistani culture (basically all conservative Eastern cultures) the bond between family is very tight and "good" children normally highly regard their parent's advice, even into adult age (basically until the parent's death) and sticking together is a must. Even when they are socialized in the West, this behavior is in their blood and my feeling is that this also played a strong subconscious role for the son following the father down there. I am Western and my husband is Indian. Tight family bonds are can be a good thing but also lead to a lot of pressure...

[@BanjoPixelSnack]

@@MeganVictoriaKearnsHow could anyone be 100% sure of its safety???The waiver mentioned death three times on page one!

[@Courtneysmall-im1kb]

They knew the risk an d too it off there own will

[@The-Wolf-with-no-name]

​@@sandrellalis8834I'm also Indian and there is truth to what you say. There is a degree of pressure when it comes to family and expectations.

[@Rats153]

A deeply disturbing event. Thank you, Dr. Grande.

[@christinekeefe9004]

5 people voluntarily climbed aboard something that looks little better than a senior-year engineering project. What could go wrong. I feel so bad for the teenager onboard who I'm sure trusted the adults. I hope that the employee lawsuit is looked into now, as that person tried sounding the alarm on how dangerous this was and was punished for it.

[@kasiab4247]

Lawsuit for what?They signed the waiver, they knew the risks so what exactly you wanna sue them for lol

[@holoxfauxfecs5651]

@@kasiab4247The content above isn't about the passengers. She clearly said the previous employee.

[@tessaducek5601]

Many with common sense and humanity suffer the consequences when $$$ is involved. You raised a good point. 👌

[@troypollonais9143]

Unfortunately 19 years old, while still in the cradle of adulthood, is still an adult. Albeit someone with a full life ahead of then. RIP to everyone on board. Regardless of the outcome, no one got on board planning to die

[@DumplingDoodle]

@@troypollonais9143 that's not the point, the point is a 19 year old who is inevitably somewhat sheltered being the son of a billionaire would probably trust their father's judgement. he ultimately made the choice to get in, but that potential influence shouldn't be understated.

[@reycesarcarino4653]

As Marlo Stanfield once said "You wanted it to be one way buts it the other way"