Mitsubishi Outlander: Service 4wd / Air Bag light - PART I

[@SouthMainAuto]

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[@MonsterBuddy10]

We need so many more mechanics like you. Too many would replace the fuse and call it a day, not even thinking about what caused it to blow in the first place. My hat is off to you sir!

[@vantime2911]

Nah most mechanics would have changed out a module then the fuse. There is NO money in just changing out a fuse.

[@Unclejake]

Van Time my son a mechanic (I’m a retired one) issue he has is most customers would be happy just changing the fuse and say stop, I tell him all the time he should start a KZbin channel just showing the cars that get towed into his shop with the owners just saying just get it running I’ll deal with the other issues later (they never do) he sends me photos daily, we are in a no inspection state, it scary what people drive. I’m not for state inspections (less Government the better) but it’s scary what’s on the road down here.

[@wesleylandin2529]

@@vantime2911 so many techs are so quick to throw modules at an issue....

[@roadkill5333]

You have the same pic as SQUATCH253!! Although he goes by a different handle!!

[@TheMschick22]

I love that you took the time to try and find out the true root of the problem instead of just playing "swaptronics!" I recently bought a 2021 Outlander Sport (2WD, SE model) and it is giving this same "airbag service required" warning after only two days of driving it. The dealership said the battery was low which can cause this error, so they charged it. Two more days went by of driving without any issues, but the airbag warning came on again. I read on some forums where the message showed up after the person's seat was moved all the way back. I have done this same thing since I'm a bit taller than my daughter. Another mechanic suggested the seat weight sensor can go bad, so I guess I'll be checking both the fuse and under the seat, lol! I find it pretty crappy that this same issue has been going on from 2007 all the way to 2021. They need to fix it since it's a safety issue.

[@luisolivero423]

The saga continues....but more importantly, How CUTE was the smooch? Loved the love.

[@berlinbadger6725]

SMA, come for the mechanical expertise, stay for the commentary. Another great video, thanks Eric!!

[@claytonolive5416]

Ah i see the disapointment whe you think its gunna be something kool and its just a fuse but then i also see its a part 1 so it will get more exciting

[@robertgray6512]

I am guessing that Part B is the TPMS fix.

[@throttlebottle5906]

blown fuse means, there's something funky somewhere causing it to blow. hmmm will it be fixed by part 3 lol

[@andrewkiwi1]

I had a similar problem and found a blown fuse on a 5 series bmw . The car sales yard got a bit carried away with the carpet shampooing and filled the plugs under the seats with water blowing the seat occupancy fuse. Usually when that fuse goes its because someone has knelt on the seat breaking the sensor element in the seat base. Its funny what you remember. LOL

[@Nighthawke70]

Kneeling? Things that make you go hmmm....

[@swfloridacarguy1987]

Appreciate your cautious approach to all your diagnosing. Being a former GM tech trained at the GM training center in Tarrytown years ago you give insight into how complex today’s cars are. Enjoy all your videos, keep them coming....

[@christharp6513]

Owner of many Mitsubishi cars. Great brand never anything major with them 🥰

[@justsumguy2u]

Usually used car dealers want things fixed as cheaply as possible, and the repair only has to last long enough for them to sell the car. For those reasons, I think you made the right call to ship it. If the fuse blows again, the dealer has the option to bring it back. But it wouldn't surprise me if they just kept replacing the fuse every time it blows until they sell the car

[@Neil_]

Had a similar issue with a 2016 Rav4 recently. ECU IG 3 7.5A intermittently blown. That particular fuse fed no less than 6 systems.. Obvious symptoms included electric power steering, ABS, HVAC control all innop. Power distribution diagrams only identified the systems, not the wires. Had to find the fuse in the diagram for each individual system to identify wires and connection points to start looking for the issue. To cut the story short, connector for the laser cruise/front park sensors sub harness, neither optioned on this truck, was left uncapped in the left front bumper area after some previous body work. Connector developed green death, just add water and, voila! Pop goes the fuse. Look forward to part 2...

[@twiz8789]

Glad to see I'm not the only one up before the roosters. Coffee and SMA this mornin'...gonna be a great day of fixing some of Pennsylvania's finest rust buckets

[@nickbeam5432]

Sooner or latter you will learn to stop buying these auction cars. On second thought go ahead and buy them it will give us more of your videos to watch. Thanks for the videos !

[@CharlesSmith-zt7vt]

"A lot of the trim is missing off this car" - I own an Outlander, and I can tell you now that's entirely normal. They're decent cars, but the quality and fitment of interior plastics is appalling.

[@daviddougher8637]

I just bought a 2019 outlander sport and ur right with the quality of the interior plastics they are really cheap and vibrate when on rough pavement

[@JonBoy470]

Mitsubishi somehow manages to be the Japanese car that’s built like crap.

[@brianmason1414]

You're couldn't be more correct!!! I'm the main electrical guy in our shop (I believe), and i know 1st hand having to give the I don't know answer SUCKS, especially when you can't duplicate. The the best you can do is be honest!

[@chiluco2000]

Aww what a big girl she is now. How lucky you are to be able to see your children while you work!

[@buffuniballer]

Previous owner swapped the 10A fuse for the radio or lighter they blew with this one and never replaced it. They need to charge their phone more than they needed 4WD, LOL But there is an implied part B, so stay tuned for the rest of the story.

[@jamesterrill1938]

YOU are a better man and mechanic than I am. I learned a long time ago to not own a Mitsubishi or work on one....

[@TomO-if7nh]

Thank you for doing a Mitsubishi video. I have 160,000 on my Outlander and I just wish it had a timing chain instead of a belt. The trim in mine is great.

[@yatesyification]

If I can't fix it, neither can you. ;)

[@zx8401ztv]

Ha ha :-D

[@vantime2911]

LMAO too funny

[@zx8401ztv]

Van Time That comment just made me laugh and laugh, the funnybone was well tickled :-D

[@DaddyBeanDaddyBean]

If I can fix it, YOU can fix it. And if YOU can fix it, what are you bothering ME for? :-)

[@BigDaddy_MRI]

It’s that left handed electro-thingie that pulls in the whatchacallit lever to make it 4 wheel drive has a Lorentz-effect short in the electro-magnet. Pretty sure. Probably should let you troubleshoot it. Yeah. That’s the ticket. Looking forward to part two. Cause you’re not gonna sleep well till you find that intermittent short. You know it. And I do too. Good to see you again. It’s been FOREVER. Well, not really. 👍👍

[@BoerGuy]

Totally enjoy the Diagnostic process, gotta go slow to go fast. Little girl is getting big so cute she loves her Daddy.

[@Gruntsworth]

Somebody bought a Mitsubishi? I barely ever see them on the road and they seem to consistently be rated the lowest or near lowest in every vehicle category they compete in. The days of great vehicles like the GT3000, Eclipse and Lancer Evo seem to be long gone. I'd like to see them make a comeback.

[@chrisj197438]

My girlfriend has a 2003 outlander AWD. It’s been a great reliable car except for the air conditioning. I replaced everything including the evaporator and still will not cool below 54 out of the vents. I told her to deal with it I’m done.

[@tom535]

I wish that was true if you can do it I can do it,, BUT I'm here to tell you I bet you have forgot more than I will never know.. you are the man DR of mechanics!!..

[@Hyied]

Wow here I am on KZbin at 2am and my favorite KZbinr just uploaded woohoo!

[@roadkill5333]

What a coincidence!! I too, was uploading at 2am! And, as it turns out, to one of my favorite youtuber!! Oh, how I love that farmgirl??

[@leonardodavinci303]

The "extra taps....remote start" caught my attention. I would check the power draw through the circuit while turning peripherals on and off plus trying the remote start. Second is moisture/spill under seat and carpet. Would consider pulling up the carpet/sill and following line back to the fuse. Should be relatively short (pun) exercise. Distant third would be the 4wd switch.

[@haywardsautomotive6156]

Gotta love these. To search or not to search. I agree if it's not obvious why search for something that may not exist especially after you do a visual, shake and amperage checks. Let them drive it and if it comes back then spend the time & $$ unless of course it's a critical system and possibly leave them stranded. Looking forward to Part 2...the fuse blew again 😎

[@arthurfricchione8119]

Eric good video. seeing as how you cant shimmy it down the road with no plates I guess all you can do is ship it. I know your mentality and workmanship and I think like you something blew that fuse. Maybe with all those extra fuse taps, it could be explained but Ivan should get a shot at this one. I'm sure with his bright headlamp and scientific mind on a cold rainy night he would find something LoL. Keep us posted Eric ❤️️

[@Ireland-bc2gx]

Good to see someone who cares about what he does,

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Put an Amp clamp loop on fuse #17's socket and see how many apps are being drawn. Mema taught me that! LoL 😂

[@xoxo2008oxox]

Mema's Amp Clamps! Original recipe...

[@vantime2911]

Ya Eric's Meema is the best!

[@KevinJohnson-fx6wq]

Aaah, the world of electrical wiring in a car. What a conundrum, lol. You recently did the rear alignment on my '07 Galant. One problem I've encountered is my car battery being drained over time. It doesn't happen all that much, but did happen yesterday when I went to go for an appt.. It seemed to only happen in the really cold times. It was too cold to check anything out, but now it's warming up and I'm going to try and scan the fuses layout from the cover and just start probing wires and record all the results. Its a relatively new battery from NAPA, only 2 yrs old. When I bought the car, it had a new battery, but I had been working on the car one day, left doors open, and drained it down to nothing. So when I had trouble starting the car in the winter, I just bought the new battery. I checked the battery voltage when it didn't start in the winter it was a little over 11 volts. I did check after charging it while running and the voltage was 14.65 volts so I'm 'assuming the alternator is working ok. I do want to change out the starter, just because I have to pull the exhaust manifold just to get to it and check anything. I'm going OEM Mitsubishi because the guy doing the video I looked at was changing it for the 2nd time because he had bought it at advance auto. sure they warrantee them. But I'm hoping to do it only once. I usually go NAPA but all the one's they had said they 'may' fit. Such is life and thanks for sharing and I'll let you know what I find. Might even just have to call upon your assistance again. If I drive it every day seems all right.

[@KevinJohnson-fx6wq]

@Bobby Brady Thanks

[@garyharms276]

Just want to say thanks for showing all those people out there that there are good honest techs out there fixing problems not just chucking parts on and adding up a bill

[@wyattoneable]

I really enjoy taking these paths with you. It helps my diagnostic methods on my own projects.

[@vantime2911]

Maybe a simple fuse fix but the diagnostic lesson is priceless.

[@richardwarnock2789]

Conversation with owner number 1 chasing ghostly wiring Adventures one wire clear path no shorts! 2 censors removed or if possible to bench test manufacturers Don't show everything on the nomenclature of censor function which causes problems for Mechanic's you made a good call on that part of and suggest talking to Manufactures to diagnosed or take to them to vehicle they may know there's a naffoo glitch in the programming or replacement procedures just saying Cause they know the beast which they make thanks enjoyed the video!!!; )

[@jovenlagda1229]

Airbag for the win, SMA and PHAD.

[@Jimmeh_B]

Yay Mr O!!! Who doesn't like an intermittent fault!!! The best kind!! it's a moderately high current fuse event too. No skid marks inside the plastic so most likely not a dead short, but not a hair line blow either.... fun fun fun!!! ;)

[@guyburleson8918]

Great video......I find myself watching your channel more than anything else! Best show online in my opinion!!!!!! keep up the good work!(best show online or TV)

[@Arnold7221]

Some fuses just blow open easier than the majority of all the rest of fuses. Watching a fuse while turning on a module with a large input capacitor for filtering, I noticed the fuse wire slightly moving when the module was turned on due to a lot of inrush current charging the capacitor. The fuse did not blow open as seen in other open fuses.Not having better test methods and lab equipment you are forced into a corner making decisions from what trouble shooting info you have done. Changing a fuse and going from there done many times in heavy machinery business. Time vs. money. Good call.

[@Mike-bm8hu]

Love ya work mate, have learnt a few good tricks from you and look forward to more. All the best from south oz.

[@crisprtalk6963]

you all call Australia Oz?

[@Mike-bm8hu]

@@crisprtalk6963 Mostly when talkin to someone outside of our shores mate, its a common theme to shorten things

[@rickb8808]

We had the dealer install a remote start years ago before manufacturers provided plug in kits. What a disaster. Found out they didn't do it but had a vendor come to their garage to do it. Fuses blowing, electrical issues. Dodge and the vendor were arguing back and forth as to who was covering repairs. Car sat at dealership 2 weeks the 4th time in. They called and said it was done. We went to pick it up and it smelled like something electrical burning. Traded it in.

[@georgebonney90]

I have a 2015 mitsu mirage 3 cylinder and its awesome,great vid thx mr O

[@bigblue2216]

Okay, ready for part 2.

[@fascistpedant758]

As so often the case, it boils down to "check the fuses". While it is best to collect any relevant information you can, a DIY'er without any special equipment would have found important direction just by pulling and inspecting fuses and fuse panel connections.

[@jamesu]

I would have loved to see the current draw on a scope. I'm betting that will be in part II. Thank You Eric!

[@chevyboss97]

It's 330 am in CA why am I up. Oh right new SMA VID 👍👍👍👍

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

That autel is nice Eric O

[@jamesfaison9410]

Eric, since it's an auction vehicle, maybe that fuse never really blew on that circuit. It have have been swapped out on another vehicle that needed a 10 amp fuse. At least it was a simple repair. 👍

[@stylianosbarmpounis4469]

THE BEST SERVICE

[@baileymiller546]

My 04 eclipse was a great car, traded it in for a Volkswagon though. Only issue I had with my eclipse for the 3 years i had it was the radiator. Awesome video.

[@gianfrancoa]

Sorry to hear you traded a Mitsibishi foe a VW

[@baileymiller546]

04 vs 2015 it's worth it. The Mitsubishi was a convertible and there was all kinds of mold in the car from all the water getting in because a few of the seals were cracked.

[@baileymiller546]

@@gianfrancoa VW is tough 👊

[@gianfrancoa]

@@baileymiller546 yes, tough to repair and pay as they break down.

[@gianfrancoa]

@@baileymiller546 shame that the issue on the top. I bet besides that didn't give you much troubles, isnt?

[@donnierobertson3088]

Great job again like always

[@normangallant9879]

Good find and hope it will return and may find the result or maybe not.

[@DIETRYING001]

Another new scan tool Eric??? I guess being a KZbinr has many bonuses! Which one is this? A new autel one?

[@frugalprepper]

It just needs a fuse upgrade Eric. I put at least a 25 back in there.

[@SmittySmithsonite]

I hate those too! I've had some like this that I threw a new fuse in, and they were fine & the vehicle never came back for that problem again. Could've been someone pokin' and proddin' where they shouldn't have been - hard to say. It's frustrating, though, because I like to fix 'em once-and-for-all on the 1st visit! Sometimes that's just how things go. We can only do our best!

[@archibaldgeorge8916]

live you videos makes my day and can learn some every now and again cheers from bonny scotland

[@phprofYT]

Awww. My daughter is 12 now. I remember that age. Now I"m going to cry. My kids are still sweet on me. Now I am crying. Now my keyboard is wet.

[@potskie420]

I'm willing to bet that car was at the auction because the PO saw all those warnings come on one day and said screw it I'm done, if only they knew... Same reason I just scored a super mint 08 golf at auction with the most perfect rust free body I've ever seen on a car in the salt belt!

[@joeacfalle2380]

‘What I think’... solid new Jeep hat.

[@hpelisr]

I think the 4x4 control knob in the console was shorted from drinks spilled on it.

[@Jimmeh_B]

not very likely. Being a 10 amp fuse.

[@dpeagles]

I was thinking water penetration through windshield

[@Jimmeh_B]

@@dpeagles seriously, this weekend, do an experiment. Go to your local auto accessory shop, buy an inline fuse holder and a 10 amp fuse. Get yourself a glass of water, get two wires and connect them to your car battery, connect one of them to one end of the fuse holder, insert the fuse, dunk the two wires in the glass of water. No matter what you do with those two wires in the glass, that 10amp fuse will not blow unless you touch them together. Even if you saturate the water with salt to reduce to resistance of the water in the glass as much as is chemically possible, that fuse will not blow. The only thing that will happen is you will get hydrogen bubbles off one wire and oxygen bubbles off the other wire and a small amount of chlorine gas. You can verify that it's hydrogen by igniting the bubbles in the soapy water and they will make crackling noises, a big bubble will make a very distinctive popping noise. Also the water will turn a very unpleasant shade of brownish yellow from the metals eroding in the solution. Water can cause issues and make weird shit happen to signal level circuits. It can not however, induce a large enough fault current to blow a 10 amp fuse when the potential difference is only 12 volts. it is simply, not possible.

[@dpeagles]

@@Jimmeh_B It can cause components to short can it not? Guess I will go drop my phone in the toilet. Water won't damage anything.

[@Jimmeh_B]

@@dpeagles As I said, it can cause problems for signal level circuitry. Signal level is orders of magnitude smaller with respect to required current, How many TEN AMP fuses do you see in a mobile phone?? Yah... sorry, I guess I've no idea what I'm talking about. Come back to me when you've blown that fuse in that glass of water.

[@cojones8518]

Part 2 A ScannerDanner special 🔥🔥🔥🔥🚗🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@laohantun7404]

Oh..... Trinity is such a adorable girl....so sweet grown up around Daddy's workshop....how nice can she ask for.

[@Mr.G626]

yeah..i'm binge watching SMA lol

[@sailme2day]

mima might sell her as is and move on . Your daughter is a cool version of you both eric. Always has an available moment for some funny and what is important . Dang those auction cars ! Did your best , monitor and re visit any murphy moments. Great thought through video :)

[@2secondslater]

Ex Mitsubishi tech here in Aus, CAN timeout codes are caused by no comms with modules that haven't been fitted as standard trim on the vehicle.

[@danielsimpson8929]

Good video. Regarding a guess. Seems on KZbin the diyers find the vacuum solinoids for the 4x4 fail. Or that the systems act up if the battery connections are poor. Of the items on fuse 17 I think it's likely the 4x4 and would start there. But that's with free time I'd spend trying to figure it out. In your case, ship it. :) Then maybe stay tuned for it to find its way back to auction. Guessing this was marked as part 1 because in x number of hours days or weeks it'll come back for diagnostics... not if it's months though... they probably just keep changing #17

[@hectorgalvan8674]

I have an endeavor and it has a mind of it's own

[@Mike-pu3ot]

Good video but it's never just the fuse, fingers crossed it was a simple fluke

[@petemedina8446]

Well that was interesting diagnosis just a blown fuse huh something made it blow. I would tell the owner drive it a few days and see if lights come back on.

[@JamesLee-oe7mt]

I buy auction cars sometimes...at least half of the time codes, blown fuses and problems are caused by somebody's attempt to fix something else. Replace the fuse and drive it seems like the best plan. If it blows again, then dig.

[@klwthe3rd]

Damn this Mitsubshi has as many codes as the modern Mercedes Benz! 😂

[@dennisleslie]

If you turn captions on, at the beginning it thinks he says "reviewers have welcome back to the cell phone Auto channel" lol

[@jamesu]

I often watch those for the entertainment value.

[@splatmanhooha4264]

Finally,tyre spelt correctly with the Queen's English...🤣 You guess which country I'm from? 🤔😉

[@rtta51]

It's "spelled" here in the USA. We have a queen too. Nancy Pelosi. Just ask her.

[@jumpinjojo]

rtta51 😂😂

[@wysetech2000]

Splatman HooHa Maybe Tyre and Spelt is Queens English but in the USA and Canada it's not. We say Spelled And Tire..

[@Syntax.error.]

Just wash the fuse box with some brake cleaner. That will fix it.

[@coleberg74]

The little one is getting big Eric O. Jeesh

[@freakyflow]

Heyyyy...When a little girl Turns a ruff tuff mechanic into the leading star of a show tunes musical : ) BTW thanks for the videos You helped me from a "parts changer" to finding my parasitic draw and re-solder my GM ABS module to a happy blazer

[@stevebanda8776]

We do enhanced safety inspections here in pa and no dash lights can be on. I’ve seen many come in with fuses missing for airbag lights abs lights. You put them back and everything is fine. Makes u wonder.

[@georgegonzalez2442]

Just a hillbilly diagnostic method: If you suspect a scuffed wire that is almost shorting to ground, remove the fuse and unplug the far end. Use the little HV power supply from a neon tube and slowly bring its voltage up until you hear the wire arcing. Then use your eyes and nose to find the arc. A little bit of a pucker factor as it could possibly arc over to another wire and that could be bad.

[@rimmersbryggeri]

Many of these things can just be related to low battery voltage. When I worked in the mitsu dealer charging the battery and erasing the codes would have been #1 then do a short test drive after that.the see which ones come back. Other than the fuse .

[@mikechiodetti6737]

Waiting for part 2.

[@stf2400]

Nice to see I’m not the only one that’s up this early, lol.

[@johnathanhauata3799]

Awesome bro helped me out !

[@FortyTwoAnswerToEverything]

Hi Eric, in your video editor, can you look for some kind of audio compressor, which helps keep your monologue nice and leveled instead of quiet then loud parts? Rock onnnn

[@RustySh4ckleford]

FYI that's called normalization

[@bigscout1584]

Three things I would look at..... 1) liquid in the control knob....2) loose change falling on the fuse block.... 3) moisture from the auction clean up in the dash/console. They also had a bad leak in the windshield/sealant

[@123daveden]

Yea that dime falling out of the wires made me think that it was shorted by falling change.

[@Jayf1981]

I think he'll be back! since this is part 1 :)

[@davecc0000]

Want to show us a blown (or not) fuse? Backlight it (with flashlight, off-axis). Shows up better than any other method.

[@Paul1958R]

Eric, Great video and interesting problem. I think the way you are going about it is correct to wait and see if it blows again. Like the new Jeep hat - even though you are not a 'black hat' guy :) SMA#1 God bless Paul

[@michaelb.5345]

Well done Doc.

[@Uticagreens]

Ivan would be proud.

[@rickbaker4571]

We are all burning the midnight oil... but "welcome back!!" Its time to rise and shine!! We got ourselves an Outlander.

[@Cochise6-6-6]

I've been in the same situation, 05 f150 kept blowing fuses on me, apparently a previous guy who worked on it decided to tap into the 12v lighter plug and wire it to the driver side window acuator switches because it lost power through its native harness, found the main in the door harness had rubbed through and cut power, unless you fished it out you wouldn't know, pain in the ass.

[@63256325N]

Oi....another mystery. 😉 Thanks for the video.

[@cameradoctor205]

Auction car .... in my game ( camera repairs ) usually the gear that ends up on Auction sites with faults, have already been looked at by 27 other techs, and they gave up and flipped it at auction .... I am sure you see this too Eric !

[@mohammadabusalah2947]

Hi Thank you for all videos

[@loz11968]

Being an auction car maybe it was done on purpose to reduce the value!!! But some one else got it or maybe it was the last straw for the previous owner

[@danlevesque5437]

I'll stick with it was the last straw for the former owner I had the misfortune of buying a used Jeep every other day the left tail lamp died untill it was moved in the housing power steering that died at the drop of a hat locking up the wheel at the worst times I got fed up and sent it to the crusher last day it was valid on sticker at least my final seconds watching it get front ended with a fork lift priceless🤣

[@shauno3697]

That looks like some super duper newerer Autel you got there and it looks like it's mighty fast. How are you liking it so far? I'm assuming you traded up from the 908. Did your old 908 give you any battery problems? We have the 908 at work and I liked it before the battery shit itself. I've heard that some 908's have awesome batteries and the rest, not so much.

[@Nighthawke70]

The Money Light and the BOOM Light.

[@124marsh]

Wow I’m not the only one up at the crack of dawn

[@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP]

You know her too? Wow. She gets around.

[@JD-iu3vi]

What does Dawn's crack have to do with anything?

[@wdhewson]

Fuse fatigue. 10 A ain't much for initial loads.

[@stevenvanheel3932]

WD Hewson yup. That’s why I always replace my 10a fuses with 40a fuses. I’ve only burned down about 6 cars so far.

[@anthonysmith6954]

Hahahahahahahahahaha, first off nice to see you were up an hour before me. COFFEE......great to see a vid from ya. Not had good luck with Mitsubishi/Chrysler wiring in the 96 range. I did find though that starting at all the "hard" bends is where I found most the shorts and wire breaks. But that was with the Mitsu/Chrysler thingy. Good luck