iZotope OZONE 11 - The Future of MASTERING? - All You Need to Know

[@cgsmithinnola]

I'm sorry, but I've paid for the upgrades for the past three versions and I'm just not doing it anymore. MAYBE if there was a MUCH better loyalty offer, but they insult us with having to shell out another $150 for a couple new features.

[@russellgonzales2778]

I feel like they just came put with Ozone 10! I'm going to skip this one, and pick up 12.

[@fcmas]

You should be getting tools for where they would benefit you further, not just bc it's a newer version. Sounds like you'd only want the newer version, instead of truly seeing a value in what it provides over what you already have

[@eargazmmusic]

Yea this isn’t enough to upgrade. $150 to upgrade from ozone 10 they are smoking ROCKS

[@fcmas]

@@eargazmmusic it's fair price, when you look it from the vantage point of "how much would it cost me to get alternative products that have these features." For transient/sustain eq you'd have to buy Split Eq for $100, and good luck finding other programs that offer that ability with the other processing functions that Ozone allows this with...I challenge you be able to tell me an alternative to everything offered here, that I can purchase for under $150.

[@eargazmmusic]

Ok I caved and got it. The upgrades are nice just wish it wasn’t $150 for owner of ozone 10. If they are going to just hit us every year for $150 that’s basically a subscription it feels like

[@fcmas]

As an Izotope beta tester, I can attest that they listened to us in what would be great enhancements, and then went over and beyond. The stem focus processing, and transient/sustain focused processing is big time!!

[@Byron101_]

Ozone is a bit overrated in my opinion. It´s better to focus in mixing.

[@fcmas]

@@Byron101_ it's not, but that's subjective. Ozone is NOT designed to just EVERYTHING for you. It's designed to help you "better focus in on mixing," regardless of where your mixing skill level is. Are you an untrained amateur? Ozone has additional help for you. Are you a seasoned professional, Ozone lets you control it, just like any other professional audio processing software....by the way, Ozone is designed with mastering in mind. if you want something with a "mixing" focus, get Neutron

[@h-dawg6462]

@@fcmas well, if you can't mix in your daw to begin with, neutron isn't going to help anyone! it just complicates matters. all this AI nonsense cheapens music and is just gonna create even more lazy/cheating "producers".

[@fcmas]

@@h-dawg6462 that's nonsense lol..Neutron will make processing moves, someone "who can't mix in their daw to begin with" would never even realize they should make...in what other way would that inexperienced person get to a decent mix? By magic? 😂...and it's a great learning tool for them. It's not doing anything that you can't see in particular, so someone untrained can use the assistant to study WHY it recommended a process move, and WHAT that processing move does to the mix....every generation thinks new things "cheapens music"..do you use synth presets, drum samples, and loops, instead of creating all of your own sounds from scratch? Congrats on using "assistance" lol..don't be a hypocrite

[@robertjason6885]

Is the stem focus processing similar to what is found in Neutron Advanced?

[@jackprice7828]

That snare improvement was incredible! Often one of the hardest things instruments to get to set right in the mix.

[@larswillsen]

A great tip in combination with Ozone 11 - Once mixed and mastering - put the free Varimoon (liiter / compressor) and give it a fast attack tiny bit to get a really great Fairsgild 670 finish. This little plugin are from Analog obcession.

[@yvesnadeau7736]

I love this company. Just upgraded from advanced ozone 9 to 11.

[@b-rare]

is this video ozone 11 standard? or is it the advanced version?

[@zweiklangmusic]

Clarity module sounds amazing.

[@PresyceBaez]

Agreed!

[@simonslee73]

It seems similar to Gulfoss

[@mixdownonline]

It does in a way

[@lelandthomasfaegre]

He doesn't tell you how to navigate to it...

[@dooshnukem32]

Ozone has always looked intriguing to me, but never enough to bite the bullet and buy it. Between Cubase 12 Pro, Spiff, Soothe2, and The God Particle, I've been good lol. But Ozone 11 actually has my attention this time. I'm still in "maybe" territory, but it's a pretty good lean towards "yes".

[@lorenz3152]

As always, this is exactly what I needed to hear. I've never worked with any form of "Ozone" before, I may need to purchase this. Thanks Chris!

[@baselinesweb]

The difference between the sound coming out of Ozone 9 and Ozone 11 is not enough to push me to get the new version. In fact, I have 10 and still use 9 more often.

[@drnabs872]

So they took all the best actual automatic adaptative plugs and made a powerfull salad of it 😮I’m baffled and didn’t see this one coming so fast obviously my next purchase thanks chris

[@troeteimarsch]

Wow, now I can dump my mastering chain entirely. This looks and sounds more powerful, I'll give it a try. Thanks!

[@korkenknopfus]

I watched this video one day after released and yes, Chris, as you said in today’s MCC live, tonight your channel reached 100 k subscribers. Congratulations! That is done with dedication and love for your activity. I still remember the celebration video you made when you reached 10 k some years ago. I was watching it and my wife said “oh man, he seems to be happy, no?”

[@mixdownonline]

Oh man, I remember this video! Thanks for following my channel for that long 🙏🙏🙏

[@kdcyp]

Congrats from me also Chris! I’m proud to be your first member to join your Mixdown community group and am enjoying watching you go from strength to strength! ❤

[@MaPa60]

Nice review, thanks! Ozone is a good workhorse plugin for me, but I always dial it back and turn off stuff in it to work together with other plugins. But I'm leaning to upgrade as the stems part could save time going back to the mix for small tweaks.

[@poulwinther]

What's in your combination chain?

[@MusokeMSK]

With the clarity module you have basically gullfoss included in ozone

[@mixdownonline]

Similar, yes

[@Radianation]

I purchased the upgrade. I haven’t tried it yet, but I actually don’t use Ozone 9 or 10, so I’m not sure why I bought this upgrade? The mixes sound decent when coming out of ozone, but when I A/B it with my standard mastering chain, I’m never won over by the Ozone version. I like their progressive thinking, so I think that’s why I keep supporting them.

[@axelfoley1768]

Yeah same here. I think they need better algos on some of their modules. The Exciter never does anything delightful to it, and the multiband compressor doesn't add the wow factor. I'm back at v9. Maybe when v12 comes out I'll take another look.

[@tonitontohintikka]

Damn. I just promised to myself to start using separate plugins for mastering and leave Ozone 10 behind, but this looks promising.

[@Radianation]

I encourage you to do that and see what I you like better. :)

[@djbigpump]

Just grabbed ozone 11 on sale ,for me, definitely worth the 100 bicks

[@thomasreehjelm8862]

I'd buy it if their upgrade paths on both single products and suites wheren't so crazy expensive for what little new there actually is. I really don't like the way they've integrated (or rather NOT integrated) with NI after the purchase either. There is literally zero value in owning products from both companies when it comes to upgrades. This should be a €50 upgrade at most, instead it's €164 (or €219 once the intro "sale" is over). MPS6 upgrade is €253 (€329 after "sale"). I feel like I'm just being hit in the head with a hammer every time I try to talk to them about their "loyalty offers" to. If they ever manage to merge their stuff with NI/PA like they should, so I can get offers based on the products I actually own from all these companies, I'll consider buying again. Won't hold my breath though, as my experience with NI is just as bad. I tried asking if I couldn't get a discount on Komplete upgrade since I already own every iZotope product in there, but no...

[@RudalPL]

I have the same exact feelings about both iZotope and NI. I once bought some orchestral library from Spitfire Audio and after a while decided to buy some more stuff from them. They not only lowered the price of what I wanted to buy because I owned some parts of the bundle already, but applied a seasonal sale discount that was up at the time. I ended up paying way less for what I wanted and bought an extra thing on top for the "rest" of the money I had left. With iZotope and NI it's always no. And even the loyalty offers looks like you have to pay extra on top for what you own already.

[@danielj6313]

First time stumbling on your videos while looking at actual reviews of Ozone and not hate upgrade videos. Cant help but ask, are you natively from Quebec? Your accent just sounds local for me.

[@hykeymusic]

Thanks so much for the update , I will surely get it too

[@mixdownonline]

That's great!

[@Harrysound]

Once again my main man Chris with the Breaking News even before Isotope themselves have let me know

[@mixdownonline]

You're welcome! :-)

[@richardspasoff379]

Love it would like to learn a lot. I’ve been doing recording for 25 years. Finally, after the past two years, I have been mastering things but a lot to learn beyond.

[@alexanderweingard1390]

The presenter presents the material in a very interesting way. Thank you!

[@wavvhouse]

It works!! We use it all the time 🔥

[@lorenz3152]

Just picked this up (ya sold me!). UNBELIEVABLE! Thanks again Chris.

[@StollerEaven]

Okay, they have added some new tools. That’s good if you start on zero. But me having Gulfoss, Soothe2, Oxford Inflater and having all stems separately, a update doesn’t make so much sense.

[@mixdownonline]

I think you're all covered :-)

[@quthlue]

this plugin looks delicious

[@vaclav397]

As always, you explained at a high level. Thanks a lot 🤝

[@mixdownonline]

Thank you! Glad you liked it!

[@IEdjumacate]

Novice producer here. Why would you increase the EQ of the vocal stem in the mastering phase rather than just applying an EQ to the channel before mastering?

[@stevenleonmusic]

Pretty cool but I do mix and master my own stuff so I don't think these tools would be absolutely necessary since I could just go fix a particular instrument/vocal track and re-export (which is what I do). It would probably save time but... Ozone ain't cheap.

[@ryde2012]

Christmas has come early

[@mrpaman_Kwon]

"AI" give sooooo powerful automation and another level of processing power. Holy Moly awesome Ozone 11

[@larrycavallucci3258]

I had Ozone 10 and did upgrade to 11 Advanced. You showed the ReBalance module, and adjusted the vocals. However, you did not comment if you could adjust each of the other sections, i.e. the drums and bass, also within that module. I'm asking because I was NOT able to do that in Version 10, and could only do one of the three. I DO also agree with the person who complained about the Upgrade prices. Right now, there's another Upgrade within RX 11, and it's $99, and to me, NOT worth it for the upgrade. Plus it seems that the RX11 upgrade deals more with Dialogue and I don't even do any of that, I do all music.

[@Bartetmedia]

Freaking WOW!!

[@MaxxBigg]

Wow. It's really getting pretty obvious now that the profession of being a mastering engineer is one of the first music industry jobs that AI will eliminate, for most intents and purposes. Might still be some real high-end work left, but that'll be it.

[@Radianation]

Yep

[@nicok5630]

Rubbish. Ozone etc only help the indie / homebased artists, which is ok. Anyone who knows their stuff will want a human to take their stems and do some magic, especially get it to match the target music genre, not just some averaged "pop" market sound.

[@MaxxBigg]

@@nicok5630 I think you're going to be surprised. Sure, for the highest end stuff that actually has a snowball's chance in hell of making any money at all in an era when 100,000+ songs are being uploaded to Spotify every day might warrant some extra, professional love. 99% of artists can get great results with Ozone. And interestingly, MATCHING content to the sonics of a specific genre is EXACTLY what AI based mastering like Ozone is good at. I think there are some mastering engineers out there who are overestimating their "magic." ;) Another important thing to remember is that "mastering" is no longer written in stone as it was in the days of vinyl, CDs and cassettes. If a track you've got on streaming is showing promise, you can always remaster it differently and upload a fresh file.

[@AjmalOmid]

Wow nice job

[@mixdownonline]

Thanks!

[@machosouldeep]

I only buy plug-ins once a year on Black Friday. I’ll buy this. I’ve been on ozone 8 since 2018 but I barely use it. I use it as a reference to judge my personal master. After I did my own master I’ll bypass those plug-ins on my master buss and add ozone and cross references

[@musicforworldpeacerecords324]

This looks like a steep learning curve. I use Ozone 8 and am still learning. If I upgrade to Ozone 11 will I still be able to use Ozone 8 or will it get replaced with 11?

[@billpodolak7754]

You’ll still be able to use Ozone 8 👍🏻 it doesn’t replace it, just adds ozone 11 to your plug-in list

[@Al69BfR]

I knew there was a now Ozone on the horizon when I updated my Music Production Suite from 3 to 5.2. But I probably wait for a deal on the update to 7.2 before I buy into the next Ozone. 😉

[@mainsailsound983]

Omg, it never ends

[@mixdownonline]

Lol, I know!

[@MusicChannel-rf5zz]

Fantastic tutorial.Love what the Stem focus does.Now if I want to tweak the vocals & the drums using Stem focuses it possible in the same mix? Will making 2setings interfere with each other?

[@musiccreation1198]

I can't find an option to upgrade from Ozone Advanced 10 to 11 Advanced in my account. Smh.

[@jayakamakshianandamayi7461]

nice, but spectralayers 10 pro seems more versatile (and a 30$ less) as it can do the stem separation and then go ahead changing them the way you need with your own existing plugins plus the spectral editing

[@SamHocking]

Yep, SpectraLyers updated recently with a new AI model for demixing. It's not the best out there, but it's a big improvement on what Izotope offered in RX which I assume Ozone is based off. There's better than SpectraLayers out there too, but not so easy to use as mor experimental/nerdy to use.

[@officialWWM]

I just bought this, still trying to figure out how to use is, so this was very helpful. Thanks! Love your song too! I have a question, how do you decide which order to put the modules?

[@HezkiasTesfayeCreatives]

Wow amazing! 😮

[@mixdownonline]

Glad you like it!

[@RealityShiftUK]

There’s rent to own on splice but I can see why people are complaining

[@nutsosix7930]

cool stuff. be cool to get ozone 11.+ to work with serato stems to sound better for separation.

[@TomMarvan]

Very interesting. Subbing… close to 100k. Congratulations. (Could I be the 100,000th!)

[@mixdownonline]

Thanks a lot!

[@b.hornetiii.6771]

Clarity does clarity in a clinical way so this is a bad thing right from the start. It also destroyes tightness of the mix and the "far away", "mystic" element of the mix. I could go on and on. It's a good feature for beginners to see what boring high end sounds like. :) Stem Focus is a nice feature, saves a lot of time if you made a mistake in the mix and the rest is O.K. too. So I would give it a score 8.9 from 0 - 10. Ozone is great tool for "the next stop" before going into the real mastering app's ... It's a no go for to use as a "main" mastering "engine". It's too soft, lack character, too loose etc. Use it as a fine tunning element before going into "something stronger". I use ... When I retire I'll write a book, haha.

[@siriusfun]

🤡

[@b.hornetiii.6771]

@@siriusfun Have a nice start in mixing ...

[@TheAerovons]

Ear of the beholder I think. Somewhere on YT they sent a song out to an online mastering place, then to a real mastering engineer, then to Ozone, and everyone liked Ozone LOL

[@b.hornetiii.6771]

@@TheAerovons Well, it takes also a human to do things ... So if you don't know what you're doing, no high end gear or even Ozone 1000 can't help you and vice versa; you can have a pro on Ozone 6 doing things a beginner in a million dollars studio can't do. For me Ozone is the best for remastering old hits etc. as a "all in one" tool because you have already top notch mixes and all the high end transformers, amp's etc. in the chain ... But(for me) to use it as a final mastering tool, no way. As I said, the best tool, but only to a point; for me ... :))

[@mixdownonline]

Funny enough, I personally know pro award winning mastering engineers who work with Ozone as part of their workflow. All these new features can destroy a master like they can make a master sound amazing, it all depends how you work with them. So for me there's no real mastering apps, but real mastering engineers :-)

[@jonahwaltonmusic]

Hi Chris! Now, if we can get iZotope to make RX Connect always work correctly with DOP!!

[@DavesDomeTube]

Great functionalities, Ozone 10 was already awesome and could do a lot, so not so sure if it's worth to upgrade, not that it's not an amazing plugin.

[@mixdownonline]

That's always a personal choice according to your needs.

[@RudalPL]

Isn't the Clarity module doing the same what Stabiliser was doing in Ozone 10? 🤔

[@KinghAsi]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@baudratemusic]

Nice track Chris

[@mixdownonline]

thanks

[@cecilia_mackie]

Interesting! Let’s stay in touch.

[@Alexander-Tkachenko]

Please tell me, I don’t understand why there is a limiter slider with adjustments like on the compressor in the Dynamics (compressor) section? The compressor itself is clear what it does, but the limiter, if there is a maximizer and a vintage limiter in the line, what does it do and how obligatory is its use?

[@deswestens]

When working with 2-Track Instrumentals would it be detrimental to the overall tonal balance to use Ozone 11 EQ's Transient & Sustain modes to enhance/manipulate frequency ranges within the mix (i.e. On the Instrumental track, Pre-Mastering)? Asking anyone who can help!

[@FinancialThing]

Cool software but maybe I'm missing something? I can barely hear the difference between bypass and enabled using this software,

[@fuddt32467]

Very nice, I just purchased 10 about 2 months ago 😂

[@mainsailsound983]

Same 😞

[@StollerEaven]

Well, that is Izotope strategic. Wait until Black Friday

[@me3kr0b]

Do you need have this plug in active on each track for the different modules? Ie one for the whole mix? One for the vocal one for the drums etc..or can h do all of this on the one instance of the plug in? Hope that makes sense

[@svencarlsson343]

Lovely track - where can I find the final version of the tune?

[@EvansAudio]

Thanks Great

[@mixdownonline]

Of course!

[@SonnyGreenwichJr]

Ah man! Not more money I need to spend, ahaha! 🤣 🤣 🤣 By the time I save up, 12 will be out. Thanks so much for video from unseasonably warm Ireland! ☘💪🏽👀👍🏽☘

[@keithgilmore4101]

Hi Chris... Great, informative Video as per usual... I am using Ozone 10 (I need all the help I can get... music is a hobby for me, so time is limited... I use the Assistant as a starting point all the time lol)... But your comment about the "upwards compressor" module in Ozone 11got me thinking... In Cubase... it's basically what Squasher does??? (or can do???)... Other than the AI/Assistant element. (invaluable most of the time), could we build a chain in Cubase that mimics what Ozone can offer? (other DAWS are available at your friendly store)... not really suggesting that we should or could replace such a well written tool as this... But for someone just having Cubase and nothing else, might be a time saver... sorry, meandered on a bit there!!!

[@DEADLINETV]

If you have Cubase Pro you get a simple version of Spectral Layers that can divide a song into vocals and music. That's another reason not to upgrade, right?

[@yesterdayoncemore7130]

Is the focus only available when you buy the full plug-in. I have the trial version and it's not in there. Thanks for any return answer.

[@DerekPower]

What a birthday present =D

[@mixdownonline]

Enjoy!

[@vcodev108]

Do you think clarity module can be used to remove harshness like soothe 2?

[@yvesnadeau7736]

Where would you add Neutron 4 - before Ozone or after?

[@markleyland2661]

Really wish they would add scaling for 4K.

[@nelsonmoloi3767]

Hi Chris iam still hoek into wave lab pro

[@mikeshapiragroup]

When you raise the vocals at time stamp 9:26 in the chorus, are you somehow separating the raising function of Izotope from the verse compared to the chorus? Just curious if you would automate a function like that to change during the song, or if you would just raise the vocals up a certain DB and leave it for the entire track.

[@mixdownonline]

It depends on the master, but I would go for automation for this type of feature no problem, if needed!

[@mikeshapiragroup]

@@mixdownonline Ok thank you for the reply!!

[@tontondm1419]

That's a great video But still not convincing me To buy it Everything I saw in the video I can also do it in ozone 9 advance In a different way

[@axelmaldini4218]

'Clarity' very nice but breathes too much treble and that is a problem. If you master like that and at home I have treble in the EQ, it sounds like crap. You have to master with a 'flatter' sound.

[@RohitSungar]

How to fix Ozone 11 element cpu crashing problem

[@HezkiasTesfayeCreatives]

What is the song called its very catchy arrangment

[@KenFoxmusic]

yerrrr

[@Thewavelordworthmills]

Does it run lpf and hpf off Ai analization process?

[@user-fv4it3wj8c]

Am I just not understanding....but.... can I not use this on my stereo mix-down? Like a pre-mastering tool 😊

[@TheCrystalyne]

Is this Ozone Standard or Advanced?

[@b-rare]

is this ozone standard? or advanced?

[@oscarpatxot659]

Did they add oversampling to the limiter by any chance?

[@Styrant]

They've had it for quite a while It's just not explicitly said, when you enable true peak limiting it requires oversampling to do that.

[@cronicasdelaraza3793]

Is this all Elements Suite 8?

[@thelinkofperfectioncharity9469]

THAT AI THING IS GOING MAD, THE IZOTOPE 'S R&D DEPARTMENT ON STEROID.

[@stevend984]

Here's what I think...Sounds like a title for a cheesy podcast. I've ben working with 10 for a few months and just upgrade from to 11 because I for what I'm currently doing...resurrecting 40 year old mixes...I thought the clarity and stem focus plugs would help tremendously. Meanwhile...I have indulged many vids on Ozone to assist in my acclimation to Ozone which is by far, mile above anything I've ever encountered as a singer/songwriter/musician...and very novice engineer...did I mention the novice part? So that said...as I meander thru these miscellaneous toots and review vids I continue to find many of them jumping to serious assumptions of the viewer. All things considered and basic headphones aside...as the before and after demos for each particular module setting or change is revealed...in many videos including this one...I really cannot hear the difference in some examples. Now I have a really good ear, but what I find frustrating is when "You Guys" with your genius ears quickly run thru the motions on these different module before/after samples then make comments on the changes "You" hear...It just seems an arrogant assumption that because "You" hear it..."We" hear it also. When you do this for a living, you eventually get pretty good at it...yet you're forgetting something here...the other pros aren't watching these vids. I believe we're called "Laypersons". So...if I were to offer a supportive suggestion for the different module samples...maybe...maybe spend a few more seconds of analysis toward the change and description as to what "You" are hearing. Maybe just a bit more elaboration for us simpletons who make up the majority of your audience. So...that's what I think...thoughts...?

[@xplizit21]

Ozone is great but the loyalty offers have nothing to do with loyalty.

[@kbnamedia2423]

hi ow do you mix you background vocal?

[@mixdownonline]

You mix them properly in your mix session. These mastering tools are not made to remix a song, but to enhance better what should be already in place. So perfect if I need to bring up a lead vocal by 0.5 to 1 db when mastering. If I have to bring it up by 3-4 dbs, I go back in the mix session and work it out there

[@ifaakbd]

Wow

[@atta1798]

Not crazy really automated stereo sides etc

[@Studio22mix]

Amazing plugin, if you couldn’t fix it in the mix you can fix it in the master 😂

[@mixdownonline]

There's always a way Lol!

[@thomasheimer3578]

I's still the beginning of AI mastering and a bit scary too since mixing an mastering is a kind of handcraft and art.

[@DreamsongsProductions]

The updates on Oz11 seem more useful than Oz10 which I just got 11 months ago. WTF! It'd be nice if Izotope could upgrade Oz10 before hitting us with another update at $149 1 year later but....money!

[@adamregan4921]

They are owned by larger corporations now, which see home music production as a cash cow.

[@h-dawg6462]

no!.... it added air to the hi-hats too. there's no way to alter elements within a mix-down without going back to the actual mix. although i like ozone and have been using it since v5, this is a 100% gimmick !!

[@MrRichard1280]

Impressive, but I must pee on the parade. With A. I. doing all the art like: drawing, making music, and mixing and mastering; what is the point in learning anything anymore? Why learn to draw or mix or play an instrument? I'm not totally anti-A. I. but it does seem to get a little disheartening sometimes. I used to tell people that it would be cool to have a way to hook wires to our heads and just think the music and it would be. Now that may actually lurk around the next corner.

[@Byron101_]

I'm not a fan of fixing bad mixes in the mastering process. there are much better results when you mix near perfect. then a good limiter/maximizer will do the job. OZONE is a bit overrated in my opinion.

[@mixdownonline]

Yes, it's way easier to master a super good mix, but even if you add more processing than just a Limiter when mastering, that doesn't mean the Mix was a bad one, and needs to be fixed. It's more about enhancing than correcting in relation to the other songs part on the same EP or album, if any. That's my job as a mastering engineer.

[@yuri2205]

The amount of unskippable ads in your videos is ridiculous.

[@OrganicONGOD]

Buy yt premium

[@ManDaKi-79]

👍👍👍

[@skyboxstudios777]

Not much there for a full upgrade

[@3082frank]

I have hardly used ozone 10 for 1 year and already new version. I am sorry...but spending more than 100$ on an upgrade is simply blasphemy. I honestly am saving up money to buy soothe 2. Izotope should may be come up with their version of soothe 2 and add it to ozone 11, then may be i will upgrade.

[@billpodolak7754]

Good news - that was already added in Ozone 10! it's the Stabilizer module in Cut mode. It's tuned well for taming resonances on the master

[@livewarp]

No, impressive would be some form of support. What’s new is that support no longer exists. An AI bot that understands nothing, a “create ticket bot that never completes, this is what you are buying into, beware! Expensive without support!!!

[@sottovoce4]

so Isotope ripped off Sound Theory Gullfoss and Are charging us $299 for it?? F#@% this company