The high end cpu will be gimped in power somewhat. How much depends upon the power delivery of the B board here and the power requirements of the Ryzen 9 eventual upgrade here. What my friend did in this case was buy an appropriate X board that was a proper pairing for his 5800X (I love parts shopping). The 7800X3D with B650 is okay for that pairing but when it gets replaced with a higher power requirement chip Ryzen 9 of the future, the performance likely will be impaired somewhat due to the power delivery.
@johnellis33838 ай бұрын
These little insights are why I love you guys! I can't tell you how many times I've heard "MB doesn't matter as long as it has features you want". Sure the benchmarks aren't really different but you really can feel it if you go cheap
@ElladanKenet8 ай бұрын
Don't cheap out on boards. They're the literal backbone of your system, and the most difficult part to change out if you ever wanted to upgrade it. Buy a better board than you think you need, with the intention of using it for the lifetime of your rig, even if you do upgrade the CPU or GPU later.
@idkwhattohaveasausername58288 ай бұрын
Power supplies as well. They’re a pain to switch out and you’re better off just overspending now for future upgrades imo.
@dianaalyssa87268 ай бұрын
Agree with both of these. Boards the VRMs and features for that price point. I'd honestly get an X board for that Ryzen 9 example. Power supply can take out your other components drives etc. so that isn't a place to cheap out either. A high wattage & quality PSU can be moved into a new build, always check the tier list and age of capacitors.
@ElladanKenet8 ай бұрын
@@StormKhan-p4b A good number of them. =)
@ElladanKenet8 ай бұрын
@@StormKhan-p4b I've seen quite a few. Tech and Rogue have a good channel, and I like showing my support and chiming in with my own comment to help others. =)
@superscuba738 ай бұрын
This is why I "cheaped out" on a B650E Taichi with 24+2+1 power delivery.
@curtismariani63038 ай бұрын
I hadn’t thought about VRM power delivery in this way before. Over spec’ing a power supply is well known, to cope with transient spikes etc. But I’d always thought about high VRM power delivery being for the overclockers. But what you say makes total sense, thanks for the perspective.
@yankchef40678 ай бұрын
That's the board that came with the microcenter bundle. I personally bought this bundle, sold it and went for a 650e
@bgeezus39558 ай бұрын
32 core zen 6? Will my aorus xtreme x670e be good enough for that?
@harryniedecken53218 ай бұрын
It seems like once a chip has 16 cores, just move to the TR50 board / threadripper platform
@BillR20098 ай бұрын
If the mobo price + CPU price is the budget, I would rather spend more to go a tier higher CPU than a top end motherboard and a lower cpu. I did this when I had a 10700k and a b560 with good VRM. I also did that with a b660 and a 13700k which at the time I bought the latter was the top available new release cpu
@MrExdous698 ай бұрын
So when I built my pc I did so with the msi pro b650p WiFi which was not the cheapest mobo but you are calling the b650 a cheap mobo?
@ven4128 ай бұрын
This is the microcenter bundle board so ton of these running 7800X3Ds right now and much more in the future
@robbycoker848 ай бұрын
What about the R9 5950x with an Asus X470-F Strix? I think that this board has a 6+4 phase VRM. I put this setup together myself back in September 2022, but the stability with the 5.1 ghz boost speed out of the box has been questionable. I've gotten occasional reboots under light load with that boost level making me wonder if there's some kind of lack of voltage or stability issues at that mhz. I've never had a reboot during gaming or heavier loads. It says that this CPU should only do 4.9 ghz boost according to the box, but for some reason it's been set by default to boost to 5.1 ghz. I run a box air cooler with it, which is a Zalman CNPS10X Performa. I read it was a good value cooler and could cool a 5800x well (which I've read typically runs hot). Both previous CPU's I've had on my board never boosted at or above their respective advertised max boost ratings. The R5 2600x only boosted to 4.0 ghz on the stock Wraith Spire, and the R7 3700x only boosted up to 4.3 ghx on the stock Wraith Prism.
@Blackbind018 ай бұрын
Motherboard and psu are 2 parts that if u can, dont cheap out.. these are crucial
@vladsta38338 ай бұрын
if 7800x3d is sooo great why does everyone with it consider an upgrade in the near fiture
@greatwavefan3978 ай бұрын
In case there's an ultra-efficient and hypersonic 9950X3D in the future
@juanford558 ай бұрын
so basically Ryzen 3 to 7 shouldnt be an issue with decent B boards, Ryzen 9 you might consider a Xx70 one.
@michaelmcconnell73028 ай бұрын
ive got a 16 core chip now... can imagine why id need 40. even without hyperthreading. it WOULD be neat to see a 12 or 16 Pcore intel chip.
@nicksterba8 ай бұрын
Haven't watched yet, but this is exactly the vid I need. I have an AsRock PG Riptide b650m board paired with a Ryzen 7900(non x). I'm curious if it'd be doable to put whatever is the final AM5 flagship CPU on this board in a few years time from now. Watching now...
@phantompanda15088 ай бұрын
tech pleaaaasee make a video and explain these vrm claims to test some how thanks for the good content
@DigitalBliss698 ай бұрын
I have the MSI Mag b650 tomahawk it has a 14+2+1 phase do u think it will work well with zen 6 32core chips? Currently using it with the 7800x3d and it’s been great. Got it used for 130 all in and no complaints 😊
@tbas87414 ай бұрын
Intel will not have 40 and 50 core count cpu's for a long time because E-cores do no count they are not the same as the P-cores. Will be a long time till there is an Intel CPU with 18-24 P-cores
@jermainemorales78758 ай бұрын
Had to reduce PC case size recently for space constraints. Already had a 7950X3D and 4090, got a MSI Project Zero B650M board because it fit in my new case. It was also the only board I could find that would arrive quick enough and had all the rear IO I needed…