Velma Season 2 is somehow worse than the first season.

[@crownedshyness9656]

It’s beautifully poetic to have Scrappy be the one to kill Velma.

[@BobBob-tr7wi]

He has redeemed himself

[@crisananca313]

he could have finished the job, if that ghost hadn't ended him!

[@TF2Fan101]

Scooby-Doo Fandom: Perhaps we treated you too harshly…

[@tatarchan5212]

All dogs go to heaven and scrappy truly earned his wings.

[@carloshenrique-xb5bz]

@@tatarchan5212 He did, he really did

[@patrickmcguire7896]

So WB gives this trash their full attention but they cut Primeval, Young Justice and God knows what else

[@legofan370]

Tbf, the YJ reboot seasons kinda sucked.

[@zemox2534]

True but Infinity Train was wonderful and yet WB cancelled it for stupid reasons.

[@pariahdark1892]

Young Justice kinda deserved it. It was going bad.

[@JetFirePrime101]

@@legofan370 Young Justice was rebooted?

[@legofan370]

@@zemox2534 Oh I've heard. A couple friends of mine loved that series and were fucking PISSED! Not saying WB is in the right. What they're doing is fucking deplorable. Animation seems to be getting less and less respect nowadays and it's infuriating. Zaslav needs to be fucking buried because he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

[@danwilliams1989]

I never thought I’d see the day when the Internet would cheer for Scrappy Doo.

[@MediaGhost_]

He died for our sins. #PraiseScrappyDoo

[@amusingmoose9924]

Before Yandere Sim was released, too.

[@nopatiencejoe6376]

@@amusingmoose9924 At this point GRRM will finish the ASOIAF books before YanSim is ever released.

[@apupthatdraws1001]

⁠@@nopatiencejoe6376 I dare say Hallow Knight’s Silk Song dlc will release before yandere sim, and for good reasons. Apparently almost everyone involved have earned a spot on the s*x offender list, so maybe they shouldn’t make a game on toxic teen relationships ¯\_(:/)_/¯

[@tomorrowisyesterday3215]

​@@apupthatdraws1001silk song my beloved (never played that game)

[@TheAdorkableRJ]

''Mother, if you're here, send a sign!'' ........ ''It IS her ghost! She's ignoring me!'' Goddammit, I genuinely laughed at a clip from this fucking show.

[@shadamyandsonamylover]

There are some genuinely funny lines. Nearly all of them around Fred. But that doesnt make the show or the representation good

[@everythingz888]

@@shadamyandsonamylover Yeah I agree Fred’s delivery can be funny at times

[@anniej844]

@@everythingz888that’s becaus it’s Glenn Howerton, who’s actually funny 😭

[@The-X-Territory]

I’ll give Velma one thing, it has some funny jokes (but they’re few and far between all the horrendous ones).

[@dakingseaniii]

I think season 2 was slightly better. I laughed once in season 1 and 2 times in season 2.

[@Guy21072536]

Velma show is Nepotism Project. So many animators' effort wasted on this is downright a crime.

[@crisananca313]

her uncles owns WB or something?! cause that would be the only explanation!

[@RegularFlyGuy]

Maybe the first season. This one is a result of people watching to hate on it later. They dont care why you watch but they care that you watch it period.

[@BNK2442]

​@@RegularFlyGuyDon't hate watch it. The less people watch it the higher the chances it will stay dead.

[@RegularFlyGuy]

@@BNK2442 not gonna watch it. Watched the first episode of season 1 and couldnt bother to watch the whole season. I could feel the vibe from a mile away. Bad project with poor writing that will blame white men and racism as to why it failed.

[@TurtleShroom3]

@@RegularFlyGuy Apparently, the original contract had two seasons, which is why they dumped it to get i over with.

[@chrimsonphantom]

Velma hated the rich, Velma hated popular girls, and of course when she becomes rich/popular she loves it. Though when Victoria ran over her toy car that Velma drove into traffic she gave Velma the money to replace it. Velma went out of her way to drive over another kids toy AC. Velma also wanted everyone to hate the new kid just because they "outsmarted" her, and Velma became popular for what a day?

[@Adamguy2003]

The Velma impersonator just generally hates everyone who's not exactly like herself.

[@DuneStone6816]

Victoria actually gave Velma a fake dollar. The shot goes by so quickly that it's hard to catch unless you pause it. The show actually has quite a few visual gags that go by too fast. I have no idea WHY she would give her fake money instead of just giving her real money. Or just keep driving.

[@chrimsonphantom]

@@DuneStone6816 I saw that, it was a four dollar bill. Now that would be fake, but who says it isn't real in velma. Because If it was fake why wouldn't it be higher?

[@DuneStone6816]

@@chrimsonphantom Look closer. The bill has the words "fake money" printed on it.

[@chrimsonphantom]

@@DuneStone6816 I see that now.

[@crisananca313]

_and then one day Scrappy returned_ and did they hiss and boo him grandpa? _no! we cheered him on!_

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

Scrappy hate is so overdone that I wish the next Scooby-Doo show would go out of its way to actively subvert it. Start off making it seem like he’s just going to be annoying, but then give him genuine development and heart.

[@Solitaire001]

One way to do this: Bring back Flim Flam.

[@bjornsteelside]

Well in defense of the previous jokes, the first live action is the first one to lean into it and it was kinda funny and the other show it a quick joke and then they moved on

[@Kris-wo4pj]

Scrappy was the reason why scooby doo didnt die in the 80s. He was beloved. All the weird experimental stuff during thst same time wasnt.James gunn just hated him growing up so when he made the live action show he made sure the new generation of scooby fans also hated him. He literally says hes the reason scrappy doo is dead and hes right.

[@droopy_eyes]

​@@Kris-wo4pj No, Scrappy never was liked. Kids who were raised on SD and in the 80s were parents themselves were buying Scrappy themed toys. Later late 80s to early 90s all classic cartoon cast in USA got the "them, but as little kids" take (Flintsones, Tom & Jerry, Merry Mellodies, etc), and that transitioned from Scrappy to Scooby-Doo kids, and THAN they've dropped some VHS movies, Cartoon Network was re-running classic series, we've got 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo and so on. No one ever liked Scrappy Doo because that character is Mary Sue, and I feel like this whole thread is trolling honey pot I just head dove into.

[@irmaosmatos4026]

​@@droopy_eyesMy dad likes Scrappy since he debuted.

[@stevensteviepryde5888]

We could've had Coyote vs Acme...

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

For real, can't believe they chose to cancel that for a dumb reason but for some reason greenlit a Season 2 of this trashpile despite the reception it recieved.

[@diandremosley]

@@BuryTheLight-tds Exactly! Coyote vs Acme original release date was the same Date as the Barbie Movie & they shelved it. Imagine how well the film have done receiving the benefits of the increased theater attendance from the Barbenheimer viral event

[@samir.xanmuradov]

black lesbian coyote and trans roadrunner with two gay dads ? 😂

[@NebLleb]

@@samir.xanmuradov ...For the love of god, please touch some grass.

[@diandremosley]

@@samir.xanmuradov go back to your echo chamber instead of thinking you're clever

[@gustavomarcondes3908]

Best part is: Velma’s dead AND going to HELL! So they know she’s a horrible person and is going directly to where she belongs, ha!

[@Adamguy2003]

YES! First, though, she must be taken up to stand before the Throne of Judgment and face the Lord God whom she so frequently mocked, belittled and denied. Her life is quickly replayed for all to see, fully revealing what an awful excuse for a human being she was and leading to all the angels booing her (Complete with one of them loudly saying "You should have listened to Fred!"). At the end of it, God unsurprisingly reveals that the Velma imposter's name is not found in the Book of Life, and so He has her cast screaming into the pits of Hell where she belongs.

[@DreamDancer82]

You kidding? They don't even want her down there!

[@Shonarina]

@@DreamDancer82send her to one of the nine Buddhist hells

[@cosmicspacething3474]

They’re probably gonna bring her back if the Halloween special actually happens…

[@VerdeMorte]

It's almost as if Mindy needs an intervention or she'll self-destruct in a famous public murder suicide overdose.

[@usernotfound_____yet]

I still can't believe they thought this "show" was going to be so successful that they green lit a 2nd season before even releasing the first one, and gave it a Halloween special on top of that!

[@zemox2534]

I can't believe some people will willingly watch this trash despite the disrespect it shows towards the original Scobby Doo series.

[@blobbertmcblob4888]

You know how that works, right? When someone approaches a company to air a show, they sign contracts, those contracts are for a certain number of episodes, usually 40 at a time, which are then split into "seasons"

[@mattsultimategamingandrevi8249]

@@zemox2534iv never watched it besides the first episode of season one just cause I was curious what it was but after that I didn’t watch anymore of it cause this trash show is beyond awful

[@SamtheBravesFan]

I'm convinced they greenlit one season's worth and split it into two to give us 10-episode seasons to meet the "two season" virtual requirement.

[@mattsultimategamingandrevi8249]

@@SamtheBravesFan that’s a possibility

[@lesterwilliamsjr649]

The hate for Scrappy should have ended when CN made a bumper about it. It's so annoying when a character that was respected just becomes a running joke about how everyone hates them. Either make Scrappy a well rounded character or just don't use him at all.

[@cosmicspacething3474]

I’m pretty sure the person who made the live action movies started it on purpose

[@dakotastein9499]

to be fair he was the hero of this story so its not all bad

[@BlitzDemonGamer3032]

to think They've canceled Close Enough they've canceled Infinity Train and canceled Final Space and for some stupid reasons they keep Velma for a second when Nobody likes this Crap and Velma still is a Disgrace to Scooby Doo this proves that Warner Bros is being run by idiots that don't know what good entertainment is these days

[@crisananca313]

pretty sure she had damaging evidence on them, literally the only explanation!

[@Tiniestwombat]

Avenue 5 was left on a cliff hanger too. They are tanking the network on purpose. This is the best way to make sure to destroy good will and ip.

[@YoutubeLover-np9lu]

Final space was trash

[@cosmicspacething3474]

I want to add Inside job, but that was on Netflix

[@rorrim0]

It's possible that the show was contracted for 2 seasons and that they had to make 2 seasons despite the feedback of the first season. I can imagine a Scooby Doo show being greenlit for 2 seasons because it's Scooby Doo, though I would blame Warner for not having over sight for one of their most iconic IP's, but hey what else is new.

[@YodaOnABender]

Velma thinking Scrappy was still the most hated Scooby Doo character is hilarious and I feel like it’s the epitome of their lack of awareness

[@cosmicspacething3474]

He WAS until they happened…

[@YodaOnABender]

@@cosmicspacething3474 no, people have liked him for years

[@osets2117]

Scrappy is what actually saved the show in its original run

[@plumaDshinigami]

Don't ever doubt how low one can sink, they will inevitably find a way to dig through the bottom of the barrel.

[@happynihilist2573]

"There is no bottom to the barrel, there is only more *barrel"*

[@fromthecheapseats7126]

This show doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as barrels.

[@happynihilist2573]

@@fromthecheapseats7126 lol

[@youtubecreators384]

When they hit the bottom of the barrel, they will just tear it open and start digging through the dirt as well...

[@caracal429]

This whole thing gives me real "I'm Not Starfire" vibes. Like, seriously, what inspired these ideas and these horrid protags that nobody can relate to?

[@chrimsonphantom]

Because they're self insert fanfiction. The characters look like the writer, they follow the writers ideology. Both have the most popular girl in school wanting to go out with them.

[@caracal429]

@@chrimsonphantom I was meaning that a little more rhetorically, but yeah, that's pretty much it.

[@chrimsonphantom]

@@caracal429 I was just going to say bad self insert fanfiction. But they do have similarities and Like it was mentioned in the video this series/humor seems more akin to jokes that only the friends of the writers would get.

[@TurtleShroom3]

Racism and hate makes you un-likable, but apparently your hate spiel gets green lights if it's against white people.

[@TheSpawnfan]

Scrappy is the hero we needed, he tried to save us from Velma, F for our fallen hero.

[@MikeFireheart]

I think it's fitting that Scrappy-Doo the overhated character kills the worst version of Velma. Unfortunately, she was able to stay as a ghost after killing a victim of government experimentation.

[@chrimsonphantom]

its a metaphor, she may be dead but she will still haunt us.

[@MikeFireheart]

@@chrimsonphantom Freddy Krueger could never match such a terrifying nightmare.

[@chrimsonphantom]

@@MikeFireheart if freddy Krueger went after people like velma, he would go from horror movie icon to Anti hero really fast.

[@chrimsonphantom]

I think the main thing with scrappy was the pairing with scooby and Shaggy. Because Shaggy and Scooby already have a great dynamic and their both cowards with Scrappy being the one who wants to fight the monster. It's to bad the rest of the gang weren't there, because Imagine daphne getting attacked and scrappy trying to save her, or velma looses her glasses and Scrappy finds them for her. But with scooby, scooby had to constantly pull scrappy away from the monster, which made scrappy feel like a burden.

[@rorrim0]

Yeah, I don't think Scrappy as a concept was bad I just think the show runners should've put more effort in developing the rest of the gang, instead of axing them. I would like an to an iteration of Scooby Doo make an genuine attempt at incorporating Scrappy with the gang.

[@thesaltyweeb]

"They turned Scrappy into an indestructible super-soldier..." Heero Yuuy: "Mission accepted..."

[@one-upfilmz6649]

I can't believe WB canceled a bunch of shows and projects but somehow allowed this show.. David Zaslav has been giving Warner a bad name and he must go. This show is so bad that this show gave Scrappy Doo justice and people now love and appreciate him.

[@BlitzDemonGamer3032]

DAM Right Zaslav needs to get fired

[@whynot5568]

Sounds like it's run by a total dumbass overseeing another total dumbass

[@samuelademeso9041]

@@BlitzDemonGamer3032 well he need to be put in a box and send to a Thai prison for all the abomination he has done to wb and CN

[@willfilmon182]

Thought he was different when one of the first things he did as CEO was to make Batgirl a tax write off and never release it because he thought it was really bad and would hurt WB's reputation. But then he greenlights Velma?!?!?

[@ScreenSage_YT]

​@@willfilmon182He didn't greenlight Velma. It was greenlit before he became CEO.

[@pallasdiana4206]

This entire story sounds like that one South Park joke where mantees write the cutaway gags on Family Guy by picking random balls. Except here, it's how they write the entire story. I look forward to the day when the industry starts to know what the hell they're doing again.

[@not_paxikon2587]

Ur right

[@beauwalker9820]

I never had an issue with Scrappy as a kid, I tire of the Scrappy hate too. I think the media exaggerated the hate of the character too. I also hate the trope of making a so-called "hated by fans" character into a villain. (The reboot of DuckTales did that to Doofus Drake too, and I don't know anyone who hated him. So i think he's another artificially disliked character.) It'd be like pretending everyone hates Jimmy Olson and making him a villain in the next Superman reboot. It just seems stupid to me.

[@chrimsonphantom]

I think scrappy would work better if he didn't bounce off of Scooby and Shaggy. Those two are a good duo and two cowards + one who wants to fight might not have been the best way to go about it. I remember seeing scrappy in Ghoul school, where he made friends with the dragon because he wasn't afraid of it. They should've had scrappy bounce around with some of the other characters more to find a better dynamic.

[@beauwalker9820]

@@chrimsonphantom Yeah, Scrappy could of had potential with other characters rather then just be a foil for Scooby and Shaggy.

[@mememachine6022]

i think doofus was fine. The thing i will never forgive the new ducktales is never following up on the negaduck after credits scene

[@bretonloveland851]

I could never stand him as a kid. Allthou some of the shows he was in were great , particularly ghoul school.

[@Slitheringpeanut]

The only reason I hated Scrappy was because he'd cause 90% of the problems and get away with it. He was completely un-self aware in ways that could hurt his so-called friends, that bothered me.

[@mikeval1525]

And didn’t help that scooby doo was running on fumes at the time.

[@WayneVialpando28]

I got some bad news for you and all the fans of Scooby Doo out there they green let season three so that things gonna be back for at least one more year

[@liljenborg2517]

I'm one of the folks old enough to remember the pre-Scrappy days and when they introduced Scrappy. Scrappy was a "hit" with Hanna Barberra's target - 4-year-old kids who would rather be watching SMURFS. Scooby was originally targeted at older kids (which is why the Gang are vaguely teenagers - I always thought they were 20 because they never had school or anything - and were completely disconnected from their parents), though Scooby and Shaggy were funny enough that kids of all ages enjoyed the show. Scrappy came in because H/B were specifically dumbing down the show to appeal to the under-6 crowd in an effort to pump new life into a franchise that had really run it's full course. I was NOT under six at the time and the constant STUPIDITY of Scrappy was annoying. Now, when Scooby and Shaggy did some bit, half the bit was keeping Scrappy from breaking character and ruining the bit - which ruined the bit (for everyone over the age of five). Scooby, despite the main character being a dog that could talk, was actually a pretty GROUNDED show. The "ghosts" used realistic technology and special effects to fake their hauntings. Scrappy was supposed to be a Great Dane puppy. But, unlike Scooby (or his other relatives) Scrappy could talk without sounding like a dog (and wouldn't shut up), walked upright ALL THE TIME, and was strong enough to lift cars. He added an element of un-reality to the show that really broke formula. He really messed up the dynamic of the team. You can see this because a year after they introduced Scrappy to the team, Fred and Daphne just disappeared from the show. To be fair, they stuck with Scrappy and ditched Fred and Daphne because Scrappy was testing well with their new target audience - little kids WERE watching the show, and he would become the new "normal" for four or five years. But for a lot of the old-school fans - or the ones who would become fans in the late 80s when OG Scooby series began appearing in syndication time slots before He-man or Transformers - Scrappy was generally seen as a "jump the shark" introduction that lost the magic of what made Scooby work. And that is why so much of the Scooby fanbase really don't like Scrappy much - he's an extra puzzle piece that doesn't fit - shoehorned in to try and make Scooby appeal to pre-schoolers.

[@masterrafferty4065]

I mean, that sounds like most small dogs to me.

[@dordonake]

I never hated Scrappy. Not even back in the day. He was a comic relief that was overused, but not a hate-worthy character. Not great, but not horrible either.

[@ZombieSandwiches]

Let's not forget that this season introduces Thorn from the Hex Girls...

[@lynxbelow6922]

But forgetting about that helps me sleep at night

[@nope8827]

So this whole show is basically a big "we killed the Scooby Doo franchise and we're proud of it"

[@samuelademeso9041]

No more like scooby saw where this was going, said F u and ran before they could actually kill him

[@nope8827]

@@samuelademeso9041 I was actually talking about the whole franchise, not only the character

[@chrimsonphantom]

Top ten worst things about velma season 2. Honorable mention goes out to how at the end of the first season they had everyone simp for velma and everyone basically got over her in the first episode. So Velma and Daphne can be "Soul Mates." 1. Velma still relies on plot convenience and everyone else to do the grunt work, so she can take the credit. 2. Velma basically can be narcissistic as possible and everyone else will eventually support her. 3. The 2 detectives who kept going on about how terrible they are at their jobs. Who gave their prime suspect in season 1 the ability to prove their own innocence, ending up convicting an innocent man. Shooting the innocent man in the legs and publicly embarrassing them. Who decided to campaign for sheriff before the sheriff was found dead, not even a search party for the sheriff. They got mad that people didn't elect them for Sheriff. 4. Daphne and Velma being Soul mates. Because they really want us to support a very toxic relationship and it's really dark fanfiction to have an established character basically simp for your self insert character. 5. They keep referencing the original shaggy as a drug user. 6. The references are so vague family guy and SouthPark are facepalming. 7.Norville lost his empathy for one episode and was able to speak without a filter, lasted one episode and only served for him to insult his dad and the mailman. NO ONE ELSE. 8. They want us to hate characters that we like more then the main character. 9. IT TOOOK 7 EPISODES for the plot to actually get going. 7 episodes to establish that oh wow the killer is targeting people involved with project scooby. 10: They gave scrappy the greatest redemption ark of all time for the fans, but they brought Velma back for a Halloween special. We appreciate what scrappy was trying to do for us this whole time.

[@TheLaurelCrown]

I fully agree on point 6. I'm not American but even I thought the references felt less of "pop culture jokes" and more of inside jokes that only Mindy Kaling and Charlie Grandy understand.

[@chrimsonphantom]

@@TheLaurelCrown it does seem like that. Some of these jokes were more head scratchers because I had no idea who they were refering tom.

[@BrettCaton]

"Why would she choose to portray herself this way"? I think this is who Mindy wants to be. It's a sociopathic fantasy. Mindy isn't evil - it's just that the humanity of her brain never grew. She is, to use an analogy, without a soul. She just has the appearance of a person, but if you could see inside, it would just be endless void. This is why she sucks the fun out of everything. She doesn't mean to. It's just that the abyss can't be completely contained while she lives, and we can only hope the tear in the fabric of reality will seal upon her death - if beings like her are capable of such a thing.

[@Adamguy2003]

It stemmed from her childhood and teen years. See, Mindy was born to wealthy parents, meaning as a kid she was almost certainly a spoiled brat who was constantly doted on and given everything she wanted. Then, along came high school. The rotten attitude Mindy developed as a result of being so spoiled for so long meant that she had few if any friends, and that few if any of the boys she liked were even remotely interested in her. Those were probably the first times she ever heard the forbidden word "No" in her entire pampered life, so she didn't take it well. She decided that the problem wasn't with her; It MUST be with everyone else, especially boys/ men! Bitterness and hate began to take root, and things went from there.

[@giannisksanthopoulos4300]

@@Adamguy2003 Especially white boys/ men She is racist

[@eat_buttons]

@@Adamguy2003and of course she do be lovin’ that representation, though she fits Fred more than Velma tbh

[@disappearingangel4972]

Basically narcissism

[@mikonyx7712]

You cannot be serious, about making analogy like that, while proceeding it with "Mindy isn't evil"...

[@MisteRRYouTuby]

At least M didn’t see this… I’m so sorry, J.

[@fandude666]

If I had a nickel for every time Scrappy was turned into a mutant monster, I would have three nickels.

[@wooperfan584]

​@@fandude666 which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened three times :/

[@filipbruzzolo8747]

@@fandude666 Wait three? Live action and this are two, what's the third?

[@fandude666]

@@filipbruzzolo8747 the apocalypse comic,

[@crisananca313]

@@fandude666 apocalypse Scrappy also a hero!

[@KeeKage37]

Scrappy Doo may not have been the hero of the Scooby Doo Franchise people wanted. But he was the Hero to the Scooby Doo Franchise people needed. #PuppyPower!

[@ryuka-ruki6474]

I've seen several people recently (recently as in the past few years) who came out to defend Scrappy, stating he was mis-blamed because of the circumstances surrounding him. Basically, he saved the show by injecting life into it with his introduction, but was shoved center stage afterwards as a main star to the point it frustrated people. Growing up, I never had a vendetta against Scrappy, but I know my dad and the general public did, so I thought I was supposed to as well (don't form opinions that way). I was born in the mid 90s, I never really had any connection to Scrappy Doo aside from 1 VHS tape of Ghoul School I haven't seen in ages. From what I saw of Scrappy prior to him being meme'd to death as the franchise's worst mistake, he's really... really not that bad. He's hyper, optimistic, and headstrong, which can easily get him in trouble, but he also works as a foil to Scooby and Shaggy. Where Scooby and Shaggy are too quick to run, Scrappy is too quick to fight, and everyone else can work as a balance between the 2. It all depends on how you go about him. Kind of a hot take, but I don't know where to take this one, so I'll leave it here. Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated is great, but here's something I pondered. Nova kinda just shows up with little explanation (not that it needs explained but still) and exists as someone that sometimes drops exposition after the coma happens. If instead of Nova, a dog with no connection to the gang that showed up randomly, was instead Scooby's nephew that's known for hyperactivity and running head-first into danger, it could have had more impact, as his tendency to try helping the gang despite his method of doing so being dangerous can easily be played for drama if he gets seriously hurt. Keep in mind, this is both a relative of the title character, and a hyperactive little kid that probably doesn't get the danger. I don't know, I feel like they're wasting opportunities by refusing to let go of the past and understand why these things happened. I'd comment on the actual Velma show itself, but I refuse to watch it on principle that hate watching will increase the odds they make another season, and I don't hate watch, I have enough to be mad about as it is.

[@MCPhatman]

The Scrappy hate really got ridiculous, I mean the one of jokes can be funny but acting like Scooby hasn't got way worse side characters from the same era is just ridiculous. Scrappy was fine until they started running his one joke through the ground. Anyway Velma was bad and so was their scrappy but I like his voice actor would like to see him do a real Scrappy cameo once.

[@lesterwilliamsjr649]

So when Velma dies her spirit can immediately possess people and be seen by the living and all the other people that die don't.

[@AxenfonKlatismrek]

Doesn't matter, SHES DEAD!

[@AmateurAnimations65]

Scrappy: *Kills Velma* Everyone: Perhaps I treated you too harshly...

[@Usiic]

I feel sorry for anyone who PAYS an HBO Max subscription just to watch this “show”.

[@markgisborne8482]

Very impressed that WB was able to make scrappy a popular character by having him Kill Velma

[@DuneStone6816]

4:42 I just need to take a moment to praise your choice of screenshot to illustrates Gigi's reduced role in the show.

[@MinMin4theWinWin]

3:02 why would she choose to portray herself like this? Well...thats sadly Mindys real personality. Saw a random perfume ad on tv and it was Mindy Kaling and she was acting EXACTLY like how she is here. Her interviews on talk shows are exactly the same way too! Mindy Kaling herself is just an unlikable person. Ironic that she voices Disgust in inside out huh?

[@KeeKage37]

Not only did they bring in scrappy, but also Thorn of the Hex girls. Who they made her look horrible and is the mom of the new goth character. Because of course.

[@chrimsonphantom]

I think you hit the nail on this one. It really does seem like a lot of these are In jokes that Mindy and her friends would get. Because the references are so vague I don't think looking them up would help.

[@DCMarvel2009]

We could’ve gotten the Batgirl movie instead of Velma Season 2. Priorities.

[@avengersprime5431]

The batgirl movie would’ve been just as unwatchable.

[@stevensteviepryde5888]

​@@avengersprime5431that's a pretty bold claim. What could that movie do to be as bad?

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

@@avengersprime5431 There's no way that movie could've ended up worse than it, I mean it could be bad like what I heard of the script but I find it hard to believe it's worse than....whatever this steaming pile of mess is

[@hoohoo431]

​@@BuryTheLight-tds I agree. The Batgirl movie could have been bad, but this is uniquely bad, like it needs to be studied

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

@@hoohoo431 I agree, they should've gotten the memo by the reception to S1, If they decide to make S3 for some reason I'll stop caring about WB media for live.

[@leoncoben6983]

Scrappy hate is unfounded. He was always a great addition to the team and an endearing character. He was just a kid, being a kid.

[@reet7060]

Loved Scrappy since I was a kid

[@kahboom76]

When I heard Scrappy was in this, I went back to watching his old appearances and I'll never understand why he's so infamous

[@crisananca313]

he wanted to unmask the fake monster, and that messed with the SD formula of viewers trying to solve it at home, and they didnt like that...

[@kahboom76]

@@crisananca313 Really? I don't think ever saw that. He was known to for going after the culprits, but I don't remember him trying to unmask them.

[@Solitaire001]

@@kahboom76 I think its because they made him an annoying character who overshadowed the other characters. Plus, he just wasn't that funny. Of course, this was a time when they moved away from the Gang solving mysteries involving normal people and started dealing with actual supernatural creatures (this started in "The New Scooby-Doo Movies" a movie featuring the animated Jeannie where the villain was an actual supernatural creature).

[@LadyDoomsinger]

I grew up in the 90s, and never had any problem with Scrappy. Sure he could be a bit annoying at times, but he's allowed to be, it's part of his character. How boring the world of fiction would be, if every character was a calm, collected, and reasonable person, always behaving in a stoic and polite manner.

[@dancorneanu9144]

Meme culture. That's how we got the Scrappy villain in the 2000s. It blew up till we even got it in the Mystery Inc show. In truth he was never hated like that. He was a great addition when he appeared. But he stole the spotlight and that degenerated. his best showings were the movies like Werewolf and Ghoul School. 13 ghosts did him pretty good also.

[@prowolf633]

Fingers crossed that Velma will be cancelled after this season 🤞🏽 Also I’ve about had it with these Scrappy hate jokes! he deserves a second chance to come back and be written to be likable!

[@JP-eo8zw]

I am so sorry dude, but i got bad news for you...

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

@@JP-eo8zw Don't tell me they're making a Season 3 in favor of something like finally releasing/finishing Coyote vs Acme

[@JP-eo8zw]

@@BuryTheLight-tds Thats whats happening, sorry, Velma is hauting us in real life now

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

@@JP-eo8zw Well shit, how the hell did they not learn their lesson twice?

[@JP-eo8zw]

@@BuryTheLight-tds Idk, i think this season went better than the last one, but even then, it was approved too quickly, i think it was also pre approved Which makes me think, what was their plan?

[@cts1234567]

If we must say anything good about this show, at least it exposed the inner-thoughts of the Hollywood echo chamber, and how horrible they are in general.

[@vagrant2863]

Punished Venom Scrappy. A puppy without a home. Once loved, now abandoned by those he once aided. His only recourse manifesting into his own franchise as a grim memento of his legacy. Now the only one capable of destroying the grotesque caricatures his friends have become. Does Velma qualify as Scrappy getting his redemption? Or is this finally laying him to rest?

[@patrickmcguire7896]

Yeah no one is surprised this bombed harder than the first! God help us with the Halloween special

[@BlitzDemonGamer3032]

I'd so rather they cancel Velma and just gives us an actual good Scooby-Doo Series already

[@penguin6385]

I feel like Scrappy killing people was due to that popular animation where everyone raved about Scobby being an eldritch being who wants to relive his glory days. Granted, I didn't watch the show so not sure if they did the classic yoink and twist that Hollywood do when they take ideas from others.

[@KaosNova2]

Scrappy was annoying but he didn’t have to be evil.

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

@@KaosNova2Scrappy Doo was a “child” when it came to his character in the original Scooby Doo. James Gunn was the one who made Scrappy a straight up villain.

[@rfhextra]

You are my one of the favorite KZbin. I never miss a single video from you.

[@williambragg6171]

Perhaps we treated scrappy too harshly

[@mitchfletcher2386]

No perhaps about it.

[@dordonake]

Definitely too harshly. He was actually a decent character this whole time. Not Zuko or Joker-level of character, but not a terrible character either.

[@KazuNEET]

Fred acting like scrappy is voldemort lmao

[@skeleton819]

adult shows in a nutshell: “Haha, hey guys look! This person got gored brutally and now blood is everywhere! Look, look! Isn’t that funny?!”

[@AwesomeYena]

You forgot the excessive sex jokes.

[@nightwolfteamofawesomeness9804]

Ok, I was really scared and horrified on what they did with Scappy, but at least he made it all up by killing Velma

[@cosmicspacething3474]

4:34 To be fair I also couldn’t tell which one was which since they were barely characters in the first season at all…

[@analuizadefigueiredosouza7851]

Poor Scrapy, I already don't like what they did to him in the 2000's live-action (that movie and its sequel were hot mess) abandoning him in the middle of the road. At least this terrible so called twist made people show more love for the character. Afterall, he got us rid of Velma.

[@ghostcrackers]

All this and my question is *If this is a prequel, like they said it was, WHY DOES IT END WITH A MAIN CHARACTER DYING* Just proves they were saying whatever came into their little blank brains without a single thought

[@vectinator7605]

I remember Scrappy being a good character in Ghoul School and the Boo Brothers. I remember in that Werewolf Shaggy Movie Scrappy had almost no dialogue, it ranged from saying Hi to agreeing with what someone else just said. He could of been edited out without anything changing.

[@SuperMutant2099]

I rather watch any of classic shows with scrappy doo then Velma

[@Nataninko]

There is no halloween special in ba sing sa But now for real my canonical ending is that our hero Scrappy killed Velma and the evil spirits already dragged Velma to hell and she'll never escape. Fred is the best character alongside Scrappy! Edit: they are the only good characters!!

[@gameragodzilla]

Given the kind of person Velma is, I can understand why Dia is a better mom to Fred. lol

[@mint5438]

Never thought scrappy doo would have a redemption arc but here we are.

[@jjb1908]

The whole "2nd season" was really the second half of the first season. You see most people just watched the first episode and jumped off after that. Warner Brothers worded it in a way in the news to make people think it was gaining more views than it actually was. After people panned it, they made the other part of the season to be season 2, and used the specific worded article as well as hate watching to manipulate fans into thinking that it was them who were at fault for it happening. It shows that Warner Bros is far more evil than we all already knew they were

[@teabubbles3888]

Scrappy in my opinion isn’t a bad character he’s just poorly used. (They used him too much and then give the fans a small break every now and again)

[@xXBlackDragoonXx]

Yeah I was never one to hate on Scrappy. And even for those who didn't like his character does any of them even liked how he was made the villain in cases like this? To be made evil cause "ha ha no one loves Scrappy". Say what you will Scrappy loves his uncle Scooby and considered him a role model. Scrappy never acted like he was better than anyone else, he just liked they idea of fighting monsters and ghosts with his hero. Which says a lot about this version of Velma who is all about herself and how she is better than all of them. If Scrappy was ever characterized like this Velma was in his original debut I could see it... but I just don't.

[@crisananca313]

one of the "writers" let it slip that they were gonna say the other 2 Hex Girls OD'ed.............

[@zemox2534]

😳

[@crisananca313]

@@zemox2534 said the only reason Thorn didn't is cause she found out she was pregars at the time

[@ZombieSandwiches]

is there a source to this? I believe it, but i'd like to read more about it too

[@crisananca313]

@@ZombieSandwiches hard to find, but it was alluded to thats why Ambers like THAT, cause of the drugs in Thorns system at the time

[@Burns_RED]

I love that you didn't even mention the new cringe character at all 😂

[@crisananca313]

we dont talk about Old Thorn! never again!

[@fromthecheapseats7126]

It really says something that she can convey the plot without mentioning Th*** at all.

[@Jayalen]

Funny how the one character we are supposed to laugh at (Fred) is the only one who has a character arc. He went from a manchild to literally standing up for himself against his mother's ghost wanting to possess him

[@wendyhotchkiss7772]

This show’s continued existence must be a social experiment that WB is conducting 🤔

[@unripetheberrby6283]

Along with Fred, Sophie seemed like one of the best characters from season 1 and they ruined her now! :'(

[@KazuNEET]

"Why would you choose to potray yourself in that way?" mjtanner when talking about any self insert series:

[@BlitzDemonGamer3032]

9:05 to quote Plankton from SpongeBob( Alright I Get It!) GOD I HATE Velma

[@edcooper1471]

Thanks!

[@patrickkanas3874]

I think the Shaggy picture in pee joke is supposed to be a reference to the theory that Shaggy was a pot head, so a Shaggy picture appearing is a positive test. That would be funny if all the previous spitting on the original show didn't automatically make it into another pot shot

[@GdoubleWB]

The problem with the “mysteries” in Velma is that very little actual mystery solving is done. The clue either pops out of nowhere or someone gets unmasked or a new character is introduced and they exposit a previously unestablished connection.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

Aaaaaiiiiii kinda think Warner knew that this wouldn't be taken very well given the (undeserved) hate the LAST Scooby series got (the one after Mystery Inc) and the Scoob movie tanking. This feels more along the lines that Mindy n co more than likely pushed their star power (and possibly provided them with some of the money for this. She's not hurting for cash even if she's not doing a lot right now) so all of this spells vanity to me, in more ways than one. Having said that, with the news that there is a Halloween special coming out I have a feeling that's going to be where Velma is brought back to life. The whole inclusion of the super natural is one thing since Scooby has done that in situations before where we didn't expect but granted, when that DID happen it was done so so so so so much better (Zombie Island and Witch's Ghost anyone?) but I would not at all be surprised that at the end of the Halloween special, someone else is killed to 'replace' Velma and she somehow regains a new body because her being dead and talking to the crew is stupid but also feels like another dig at some of the kid mystery shows HB had running, SPECIFICALLY the Funky Phantom. Either way, it's a skip.

[@a.scoob2]

I’m convinced the only people watching Velma are the KZbinrs who have to review it.

[@ottobaron6392]

So they cancel a Scooby Doo movie, that was already finished, but we get two seasons of this, as well as a Halloween special.

[@5ashll303]

Scrappy is the villain? I think you mean she’s the hero. He killed her!

[@MrJoshinJosh]

I doubt if it’s gonna happen, but hopefully by the end of The Halloween Special, Velma’s Ghost will be in a white woman with a surprise personality of her changing back to The Velma in which we all originally knew and love if possible.

[@crisananca313]

you mean the one that walks down the hall when she says "people started copying my look" almost smashed my screen at that scene! "YOUR LOOK MINDY?!"

[@MrJoshinJosh]

@@crisananca313 No. A real Velma look alike and all of a sudden becoming sweet kind and nice. I didn’t really watch Velma. I was kinda reviewing it.

[@jacobwansleeben3364]

No matter how bad things are, they can ALWAYS get worse. So be thankful for what you have.

[@AmandaFessler]

Grew up watching Scooby-Doo in the 90s. Never had a problem with Scrappy and I was honestly surprised finding all the Scrappy hate online in the late 00s. I was even confused when they made him the bad guy in the live action film.

[@williamcorey4700]

Final Space ended on a massive cliffhanger, yet this continues

[@RobertWilkinsonJKekMaloy]

4:20. Wait wait wait. These characters are supposed to be minors, right?

[@mattsultimategamingandrevi8249]

I didn’t even know it could get worse then season one but apparently it did

[@deltavagen9796]

why do companies hate their own IPs so much

[@theonefriendwhohasnolife]

I know the try to make scrappy really evil and bad because he made people uncomfortable in this but like he basically a child soldier with brain damage in this.

[@alicewalker3600]

I always thought Scrappy deserved better but at least he's liked nowadays even if it took a bad show to do it

[@Nameless_mixes]

Oh my gosh! THANK YOU!!! I also remember watching properties with Scrappy as a kid and I liked his character. But then seeing this universal hatred for him… I was so confused about where it came from. Like yeah, his personality could be a bit grating at times. But I hardly would say it warranted villainizing him for the rest of the franchise.

[@BelBelle468]

I’d like to think that they did learn a lesson from this. Ppl liked when Scrappy killed Velma, so maybe they’ll treat Scrappy with more respect now

[@mitchfletcher2386]

The one positive of this is that it inspired me to write my own Scooby-Doo series fanfiction, which is still being written to this day. And I've chosen to do my own take on Scrappy instead, to take the good aspects of him and build on that.

[@mrmaxwell346]

Can we have a link?

[@AhmedHussain-ju6xd]

@mitchfletcher2386 link?

[@freman007]

Season 2 was made at the same time as Season 1, so they were going to release it anyway. There probably (hopefully) won't be a Season 3.

[@AstroTom]

For all its failures I can thank this show for one thing: watching critical KZbin reviews about it led me to your channel and I really love the content you two put out.

[@animeknight8958]

here's my response about Scrappy.... THAT DOG IS A HERO!!

[@kinman3051]

And you youtuber. you will make a fine addition to my collection

[@Skellyflo]

Thing is, a company like WB can cancel a completed movie or show, as a tax write off. No idea why, but they get a tax write off when they cancel something like that. For example Coyote vs. Acme, and Batgirl, both were cancelled, only for tax reasons.

[@Shadow-Joop-157]

Season two is actually part of season 1 but it was called season 2. And because everyone on the internet said it was horrible which it really was. a lot of people watched the first season because they just wanted to know how bad it actually was. As a result, the show was actually quite successful

[@cathygrandstaff1957]

I never really got the hate for Scrappy. Sure maybe he can be a bit of a liability what with breaking cover to attack the monster of the week, which of course ends up overpowering him because he’s just a puppy. I saw that as him being the only one of the Doo clan that’s bought their hype, since it’s a running joke that all of them are cowards but love bragging about how brave they are, so most likely Scooby outright lied about fighting the monsters he encountered and Scrappy bought it.

[@dancorneanu9144]

There is Scooby Dum, who is also more like Scrappy. Scrappy seems to look up to Scooby and tries to emulate the version he concocted of his uncle. Possibly stemming from his mother dumping him n Scooby's lap. This brings out Scooby's better qualities in the forefront. If you look at Scrappy like this, he is a really nice addition.

[@williamswensenmotta1692]

Man, zombie island was awesome. CUZ ITS TERROR TIME AGAIN! AND YOU MIGHT JUST DIE OF FRIGHT ITS A TERRIFYING TIME

[@chiyuanchen9169]

I’m hoping the live action to show is as good as the old live action movies. Sure they weren’t the best movies but I still loved them.