Mk6 Jetta Sportwagen Oil Pressure loss. What happened?

[@just.a.realtor]

Well now I’m emotionally invested in this series

[@DeanofMachines]

You and me both

[@awake780]

Thanks for sharing your experience with this motor. I will be looking at changing my oil cooler gaskets asap. I used my 2011 Golf TDI for lengthy commutes to work on the highway. Planning to do a delete and tune in the next month, but this is a good video to consider some additional maintenance items to address while we are in there.

[@DeanofMachines]

Thank you for leaving a comment!!! The whole point of me taking the time to document my experience is to help someone like yourself. A fellow TDI owner who can be saved from a small failure that costs a lot of money! Cheers!

[@awake780]

@@DeanofMachines mission accomplished! May I ask what steps will need to be taken to replace the seals without making a mess? I am hoping I don’t need to drain the coolant to do so. Thanks!

[@DeanofMachines]

@@awake780 you will most likely have to drain the coolant to get into the cooler all the way. its unfortunate

[@awake780]

@@DeanofMachines thanks for the heads up. All the best with your two TDI motors!

[@emirbulic722]

Wow thats a bummer. I bought a CBBB DSG Passat 2009 in June and it had weird cough on idle. 205k km. Checked oil&diagnostic and nothing, drove and pulled very well. Out of nowhere it started to have a weird shake which got progressively worse and after 1 minute engine was dead. Still it had no lights, just the shake. Managed to restart it but when i looked at the engine it was shaking so bad. No fluids around the car. After it shut down it remained effectively dead. Went to mechanic and he diagnosed a faulty injector no.4. Replaced it and car started, with a terrible knock, just like in your previous video on track. Then he pulled the pan out and voila, metal everywhere, 1 rod loose just like here. Decided to get a new motor (used one anyway) with 185k from a Tiguan. It was a CBAB engine but it has the same stuff as CBBB except turbo&ecu. Pulled it out and put new one in, started the car, same engine cough. I have it on video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e17Vd6Sknbilrc0si=K4tRfteG4KwUC-ch Decided to test drive and after 2 minutes car shut down with coil flashing. It couldnt start. Went back to mechanic, code was Low fuel pressure. Checked everything and finally replaced the HPFP which was causing this. Got a used pump with 165k from golf VI CGF engine or something like that. Now it works perfectly. Spent around 1k euro for the troubles. Looks like you ran into a second bad engine there. I think my old engine had some sort of repairs probably after oil pump failure of some kind, since my engines have balancer shaft oil pump.

[@DeanofMachines]

Thank you for this reply! What an absolute nightmare you have there. If you are willing, I’d like to possibly use it in a video

[@brendanmccarthy8204]

Very helpful! Thank you! I ordered the Stevenson delete and stage 1 tube. Very excited to get installed, but was worried about deleting because I see a lot of people having issue after they start modding these cars. Mine is a daily driver, 20k a year or so. So I want reliability and fuel mileage. Hoping this was the correct route to go!

[@DeanofMachines]

As long as you know the oilchanges were taken care of, dont run it out past 8k, keep the RPMs down, dont drive it around corners too hard, make sure your oil cooler O rings are pliable, clutch isn’t slipping or coming apart, high pressure fuel pump isnt eating itself, oil pump isnt failing, oil bypass isnt plugged, guages are working correctly and your left front bumper light isnt out, You should be fine.

[@larrytisdale3592]

I have two TDIs, a 2006 Jetta with 339,000 miles and a 2012 Sportwagon with 169,000 miles. Only minor repairs on the old one and it still runs great. The newer one has been great as well. On both I have run Amsoil lubricants all the life of the first one and from 90,000 (when I got it) on the newer one. I saw you put 20W40 in that car and the 2.0 diesel specs call for a 5W30 meeting VW spec 504, 507. I found that spec using Amsoil European oil and have never had a problem even running 12 -15,000 miles between changes with an Amsoil filter. The older TDI needs 5W-40 that meets VW specs for that year. The TDI is not a race engine so on the turns it probably starved it of oil and with the sludge in there it imploded. TDIs require a little TLC and to keep them running right Amsoil lubricants. Both of mine are automatics and have been serviced every 50,000 miles with Amsoil DCT fluid and whatever filter I could find. Good luck with the little Sportwagon and I hope you can get her back up and running.

[@DeanofMachines]

Normally the car always got 5-30 but in this video i was hail mary trying to create extra oil pressure for science.

[@evanshireman5644]

You don't need amsoil products to keep them running, it feels like I just read a huge ad for amsoil. You are right about oil specs and additives, it just doesn't have to be amsoil, so many tdi engines have made it over 500k miles and haven't seen a single amsoil product.

[@DeanofMachines]

@@evanshireman5644 Folks in my circle stick with Liqui-Moly from FCP. Easy to buy the whole oil change kit and was ideal when they had their lifetime warranty deal. They've since stopped that though.

[@daryleng3617]

Dean, I'm sorry to hear about your dead TDi. This sucks.

[@DeanofMachines]

Thanks man. Not much I can do about it other than put the money together and fix it. It's still dead in the driveway FYI.

[@tobymartin3416]

I bought a ckra passat tdi and im hoping i dont get problems like this. You earned a subscribe from me.

[@DeanofMachines]

Thank you! I think if you keep up on your maintenance and have a AAA membership, youll be good to go.

[@tobymartin3416]

@@DeanofMachines i have AAA and im gonna learn the maintenance part on the fly. Right nos im saving up for a timing belt kit. Next is a tune/delete kit

[@DeanofMachines]

@@tobymartin3416 Heck yeah bud! It can be very frustrating engine bay to work in. just take your time. Spend the money for the special tools and youll be golden.

[@farmallH1973]

My 2013 ckra self destruction at 90k. Balance shaft. Culprit. Vw replaced long block. Turbo. intercooler hpfp . $18.5k later... cost me $50 deductible. Hello scandal warranty. Now have 25k on everything. Been good. Have service records since new. .

[@tobymartin3416]

@@farmallH1973 mines getting ready to roll over to 153k miles. Still trying to track down a rattle noise...

[@the.wanginator]

1:27 Ha! I know that Harbor Freight! Ironically, I went to that same store to get a jack for my SportWagen. LOL. Moved about an hour south of there a few years ago though. I'm starting to get codes and a refresh on every drive on mine.

[@DeanofMachines]

Good ole Dville! What kind of codes are you getting?

[@WheeeOoh]

have you checked the oil pump hex drive shaft? these are big problem in 2.0 tdi engines.

[@DeanofMachines]

I have not. This car *shouldnt* have the style that failed but who knows

[@bobirving6052]

Good video

[@DeanofMachines]

Thanks bob!!

[@kilgree]

Pull it out and do a lower end refresh. Or do like I have done on a few cars, drop the pan and spin in new bearings as well as an oil pump. I got another 30k out of a 3.8 in a Taurus that way.

[@DeanofMachines]

I thought about stuffing bearings in it but usually its the top end that needs the attention.

[@kilgree]

@@DeanofMachines I would probably pull the pan just to see how bad it is. Then probably refresh or hunt another used one.

[@DeanofMachines]

@@kilgree That's definitely an option. Just need money.

[@78katz]

I put 40k miles on my first car, an '84 Volvo 244 intercooled turbo with an oil pressure gauge that would go to zero after warming up a bit. I never found out if it was just a bad sending unit or the B21ft was just indestructible, lol. Anyhow, I suggest you get a Sachs SRE DMF clutch kit for your TDI. The commonrails will eat the trans. with a SMF.

[@DeanofMachines]

Id love a sachs kit but i have what I have due to availability. Redblocks dont really need oil pressure. Thats just a luxury.

[@78katz]

@@DeanofMachines Right on. I'd hate to see you go through the effort of dropping in another CJAA motor just to have the trans. chewed up a few months later. I used a cheap LUK repset clutch kit on my modded CJAA golf and it held the torque for over 30k miles before I sold it back to VW.

[@DeanofMachines]

@@78katz Good deal! Nice when things work out

[@MThomas92]

you know that spongebob meme where hes naked and exhaling deeply..... thats me right now.... just picked up a '13 jsw tdi with 95k

[@DeanofMachines]

There are worse things you could’ve bought. Just do your oil cooler o rings and DONT go 10k on your oil changes. Do 5k miles and change the damn oil

[@V8vortec98]

My High pressure Fuel pump Took a shit at 99,500 2 weeks after my Warranty expired Vw wanted $9377.00 to replace entire fuel system.

[@jennylynnize]

03 alh 50+ mag average speed 70 mph it's great I love it. 03 awp 1.8t average 28 mag tight car fast also love it but the alh is daily driver great car

[@DeanofMachines]

I do love an ALH! Great motors!

[@RubyDash_]

now i’m scared to do an EGR, and DPF delete on my ‘15 passat TDI, along with the stage 2 malone tune because of this series lol, should i be worried of my engine eating itself like yours did? i always kept up on maintenance, oil changed every 10k miles, and i just hit 100k miles.

[@DeanofMachines]

I would change your oil more regularly and delete. My oil pressure loss was not caused by deleting the car. I can tell you that much.

[@RubyDash_]

@@DeanofMachines great to know! i’m just in love with the idea of doing a delete, tuning it and really getting the potential, so getting some info in to ease my mind. Also i have the 6 speed DSG automatic so i’m not sure how’d that go with a tune? If you’re familiar with it, i’d love to hear what you have to say and thanks.

[@DeanofMachines]

@@RubyDash_ You would have to get a DSG tune as well as the usual delete tune. Feel free to message me on insta @brapbrapdean

[@adamwalker7338]

I just pulled the trigger on a 2012. Thanks for the heads up. What other suggestions would you recommend to change out with a high mileage TDI?

[@DeanofMachines]

Wheelbearings, injection pump, timing belt. Depending on the miles and previous owner. Might be a great car for you!

[@redbeardedpanda]

Bummer. I did not expect these motors to have such dumb issues which is clearly a result of engineering oversight.

[@DeanofMachines]

Over engineered for no reason

[@charlie225]

Hey Dean this engine internal stuff may as well be. Chinese, but even I can see the lack of maintenance on this engine, good luck with her!😉

[@DeanofMachines]

They don’t run too long if they aren’t maintained

[@dandyscorner]

I am late to the story, did you consider rebuilding one of the motors instead of picking up another unknown?

[@DeanofMachines]

The first motor had severe rod knock and had pumped metal shavings throughout. The second one I had hoped would still be decent at 110k. I did consider rebuilding both but ultimately i was concerned about shrapnel in the motor.

[@Carlos.G]

We need an update

[@DeanofMachines]

There’s not much to update.

[@moonrider19681]

Drop oil pan clean clean oil pump pick up. replace bearings and pray

[@DeanofMachines]

Probably doing a whole motor again.

[@moonrider19681]

You convinced me not to buy that same car off CarGurus

[@DeanofMachines]

There are much better cars out there.

[@bobbybeyer2127]

@@DeanofMachines so it ain’t worth it even with the stellar MPG?

[@DeanofMachines]

@@bobbybeyer2127 Maintenance costs and price of diesel make it not worth it. Maybe if you lived somewhere that you could drive long distances without stop and go and minimal traffic. It could be worth it then. Otherwise, if you commute in traffic and have other things to do with your time, buy an accord and get the same mpg with less expense.

[@bobbybeyer2127]

@@DeanofMachines I mean an Accord doesn’t get anywhere near 45-50MPG, but I understand your point.

[@DeanofMachines]

@@bobbybeyer2127 The only way I could see getting 45 MPG is if you had open road and very few stopping points. An accord getting 30 mpg is going to be the better bet from a cost/mile ratio

[@MrM-q5r]

I got a CALIFORNIA car, 2011 Jetta TDI sportwagen 115K mi, with lots of new stuff for $6,500. If you want to go in that direction, drop me a line.

[@DeanofMachines]

Thank you for the offer. I don’t really have the funds for another one at the moment

[@CoBobo100]

Hey you wanna get rid of that front clip? I bought mine from insurance (dad hit a deer)

[@DeanofMachines]

Ill sell the complete car for 4k

[@CoBobo100]

@@DeanofMachines I'll see if I can get one on iaa

[@justin_g9883]

My 2012 tdi has 150,000 miles and runs great... Everyday I worry

[@DeanofMachines]

No shame in checking oil pressure and replacing things before a failure!

[@justin_g9883]

Thats what I plan to do!

[@ShawnTheGreek]

Torx, triple square, inverted…. leave it up to the Germans to unnecessarily over-complicate things.

[@DeanofMachines]

Just get the whole mix going on in there

[@GeorgeStar]

My god turn down that Fing music!

[@DeanofMachines]

Sorry, im new at this

[@POVwithRC]

A broken rubber causing all kind of problems. Go figure 🫠

[@DeanofMachines]

Thankfully its not a problem i have often