MKLeo & Riddles Talk About New Mains & If Kazuya is Top 5

On this week’s episode of GOAT Talk, MKLeo & Maister have a special guest Liquid Riddles! They talk about the upcoming Luminosity Invitational sponsored by Kroger Gaming, Leo picking up Roy & their runs at Diamond Dust this past weekend!
0:00 Welcome to the Show
1:25 Riddles talks about his grind
2:34 Luminosity Invitational Presented by Kroger Gaming
5:45 Riddles vs Tweek
7:45 Is Kazuya Top Tier?
8:40 Riddles Cat Cameo 🐱
9:50 How will Riddles prepare for the LG Invitational?
15:35 Riddles vs Light
17:45 Would you cut the roster in half?
22:50 More info on the LG Invitational coming soon!
23:14 Riddles Run at Diamond Dust
26:50 Riddles vs MKLeo's Roy?!
27:40 Riddles Run at Diamond Dust continued..
35:25 MKLeo's Run at Diamond Dust and Maining Roy
45:00 Do you want a new smash game?
54:15 Outro
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[@Sancnea]

Guys please put Maister on the title. The dude doesn't deserve this. Edit: Alright I understand. Long title = bad performance on videos. But for someone looking from outside, there's no indication that Maister (someone who contributes to the podcast just as much as Leo) is in this video at all. At least put him on the thumbnail. You could also cut out the redundant stuff like '& If Kazuya is top 5' because we all know that topic is going to be brought up the moment we knew Riddles was in the video.

[@pachi9065]

i was going to saw the same thing 👍

[@daseichhornchen9068]

fr they should definetly do that

[@MonoFlax]

Fr he’s basically the moderator of the podcast with most of his and leo’s episodes being him interviewing leo

[@BWlXX]

KZbin titles perform best with 60-70 characters in them. We only have so many words that we can put in a title without it being too long and causing the video to perform poorly. MKLeo, Riddles & Maister Talk About New Mains & If Kazuya is Top 5 is wayyyyyyyyyyy too long. Maister has been in the last 2 titles for the podcasts, is in the very top of the description and has links to his socials as well. It really is not that deep saying "he doesn't deserve it". TY

[@mrb-btw]

would look crowded, it wouldn’t look good as a title. plus leo name gets more clicks

[@erikrevier4053]

Maister is really the driving force of this podcast.

[@hecticmojo4532]

Maister needs more recognition. His personality completely carries this podcast. Just an enjoyable dude to listen to

[@WHizzSSB]

Whoever invited Riddles to speak was cooking

[@autoimmunedefficiencysyndrome]

Real ones know Maister is just omitted from the title, bc u kno he's mandatory

[@VampiresAreRealGuys]

True its maister's show

[@mannya.h.967]

Yeah I kind of always thought of it as just HIS podcast, but considering Leo is about as regular it is pretty off

[@Aceplays679]

Maister needs to be on the thumbnails man

[@autoimmunedefficiencysyndrome]

This is true. One kf the big reasons I watch these vids is bc of him

[@donaldkennson245]

We demand maister love

[@theelectricant98]

Hes the heart of it, keeps the convo flowing

[@Braydostrescuatro]

Show Maister some love man why is he never on the titles nor the thumbnails

[@ambush4144]

Are you dumb? He's on the previous ones

[@lurklimit8378]

Just so you know Luminosity, Maister is the player that carries this channel. Dude is amazing at talking and entertaining as hell

[@jilvermazariegos]

I agree please put maisters name on the title

[@mcbill7352]

Honestly it makes complete sense to only have leo and riddles in the thumbnail. They are the guests after all

[@rug052]

shoutouts to maister

[@Rudepetsclub]

I think Leo continuing to adjust his character lineup both makes him exciting to watch and shows his versatility in keeping a consistent stable of characters. The end game of ultimate is definitely folks making character counterpicks.

[@isuck6049]

This should also be the endgame for melee soon tbh, (don't hate on me meleetards) with people maining samus or falcon just to deal with fox, but for ultimate, I do think it's just gonna be whoever has the better character overall and they're just forced to stay as that character until they lose a game but that person has map picks for winning while the opponent only has character picks instead if they lose, it'll definitely change the ruleset that people play in today if this happens

[@firewall5189]

putting "dont hate on me meleetards" preemptively doesnt really make a great case for your post's likeability...

[@interviewr4811]

Maister needs more credit hes the goat of luminosity man he actually carrys every conversation and makes the videos way better my goat solos

[@ryan_raus]

I love that they actually put the cat cameo in the video chapters lmao

[@etriantrujek286]

Maister is the EE of this podcast

[@10cesc4.]

Don’t insult Maister like that.

[@GyatRizzler69-of3wl]

Maister is annoying and punchable asf tf you saying

[@greedo194]

Mkleo gonna have a massive powerup on 4/20 the marth will come out

[@Spyder-Marth]

As a Leo fan I disagree about the Marth coming out. He seems fixated on other characters. He refused to play Corrin despite his success with her, and the same is happening with Marth. He didn't even optimize the characters to their full potential but he clearly does not want to play them as much as Joker and Roy. Also the ROB magically disappeared too.

[@greedo194]

@@Spyder-Marth yeah he realistically isn't going marth but if he's mkfuego on 4/20 who knows what he'll pick :)

[@isuck6049]

​​​@@Spyder-Marth i honestly think he's just tired of marth, I mean he literally mained him for most of sm4sh, corrin's situation is a bit different since I actually don't know why he wouldn't want to play her.

[@2010bhood]

The 4/20 pack gonna be lit!

[@chrislamonte8554]

Kroger must be paying you guys well with how often you said, "presented by Kroger Gaming."

[@theelectricant98]

Yeah it definitely came off pretty stilted to keep saying it after the first time, must be in their notes to not just call it the luminosity invitational

[@Kenji.95]

So 1.Tweek 2.Leo 3.Maister 4.Sonix 5.Riddles 6.Dabuz 7. Shadic 8. Sparg0 (surely) 9. Light (edited, forgot) 10.

[@DEVmags_]

EE leaked that Light was going on Lights Out 💀

[@Potato_DevOfficial]

light was confirmed on lights out podcast, my guess for last is either a japan player or gluto

[@kajin2422]

Sparg0 has another Mexican tournament for the 20th 🥲

[@tepperpepper1047]

I think Zomba

[@Jumogas]

@@kajin2422where did u get that info from?

[@cjwerner2747]

When riddles said im dying in one hit or maybe two or three lol. Thats hilarious and ironic, but he was talking about steve and he was right lolol

[@UnKnowned-ud6oz]

Maister needs to be included in the video title

[@user-mq2il4ze2u]

Thanks to this podcast, it helps me know more about smash stuff and improve my English listening skill haha

[@zacharysegalewitz]

It's called GOAT Talk cuz Maister is the GOAT host, right?

[@boymanwonder3641]

great episode! 32:57 I think for FGC chars they should give the option to turn off or turn on auto-turn around

[@mr.anonymous8091]

Let’s go riddles finally on

[@fiber1881]

Kroger getting into the Smash Community changes where I will buy groceries from. That is cool.

[@crazykhespar8487]

Yup

[@Command.]

maister carries this podcast ngl

[@yawns3004]

46:44 something no one talks about is how only fast characters could run through characters, and big characters like Bowser couldn't be dashed through. So it really benefited top tiers and hurt slower high/mid tiers that were already bad

[@psyk1k986]

I personally think it makes jumping around better than it needs to be. More mixups if they just made it a better version of smash 4 running through people.

[@rainmaker6261]

Riddles is the man

[@WelpItsJustEric]

Leo was taking notes in his head right there lol

[@Theodore_335]

if there are 120 characters then squad strike needs to be the main event for tournaments imo, and squad strike NEEDS to be a mode online

[@firewall5189]

now THIS is a spicy hot take. i appreciate that lol

[@psyduck8025]

Yo this lineup tho??? I love these 3

[@user-ie7pp8lv5b]

We need more Riddles cameos

[@marlinmurrell620]

People are complaining about the title of the video, but it pretty accurate tbh.

[@ibrahimbeats]

as a Link player I could see them changing him to TOTK Link in a future game - though I personally am apprehensive of that since I love Remote Bomb so much. but also most of TOTK Link's abilities feel so different from Smash Link that idk if they'd want to revamp the character to such an extent.

[@riqua27]

So we got Riddles and DABUZ in the invitational. EE spoils that SHADIC is attending. That means only 2 players left. My guess is that it will be Zomba and Peabnut.

[@ethanpa1936]

hold on but did yall know that the luminosity invitational is presented by kroger gaming?!

[@mrmcfloppy2713]

The M in MKLeo stands for Maister in my head canon

[@bonkai09]

So Cola decided to leave the smash community and nonmore tournament runs so he gave his wisdom to MkL and Riddles

[@broadcliff5842]

Riddles and the goats

[@broadcliff5842]

A goat and the goats

[@masu5781]

last 3 has to be like spargo + two japan maybe? They are kinda destroying NA so it'd be cool to see runbacks

[@Vyhox2000]

Leo's Sora is gonna go KRAZY

[@nap_time_]

sora alr crazyy character. w/ leo behind the wheel??? damn.

[@isuck6049]

​@@nap_time_ people wanted to see this as well as pit tbh

[@GabrielMora16]

I love Maister

[@Feller06]

My favorite smash bros podcast and my favorite smash bros player. What a great day

[@dodgezt]

Cmon leo just ask him how to beat him! Lol jk bro love ya guys!

[@teddypariah3364]

Kazuya is 100% top 5

[@Uran10]

Minmin is from a nintendo IP, and one that performed really well. (would have preferred ninjara) but I'm pretty sure ARMS is getting a sequel (game outsold most FGC games not named smash) and they'll probably bring back binbin or choose another character to add.

[@N-cubed]

Luminosity purposely not including Maister in the thumbnails to drive user engagement in the comments lmao.

[@metalfish883]

I saw MkLeo fight that Hero that did the hocus pocus enlarge on stream, his name was DatDerpDog, i remember because that was a funny name

[@doja_cutie2553]

They should invite Hurt ( Japanese snake player ) he’s hot off a major win too

[@i.p.c.scipioa.8281]

❤

[@denpherflare5365]

I think leo would be the greatest hero if he wanted to. It's a slow character, and leo made byleth what it is even tho it's a slow character

[@isuck6049]

menu presses are definitely his biggest enemy if he does go hero

[@2Kaleb]

26:50 XD

[@ash1yn]

Poor maister left out of the title lol

[@mek80010]

Press 9 for the run

[@Alex1jag]

Since Shadic is already confirmed, i hope the last two are Japanese players.

[@AlThePal78]

Yo smash seems more copetitive then ever. Everyone is beating more top level players. I mean bottom 32 beating top 32 it is just amazing. I love it since I love this game :)

[@theelectricant98]

Presented by Kroeger™

[@dee6561]

I come for Leo to talk, but as everyone says, Maister is actually the secret (or not so secret) moving force for these videos, whether its in a script or not (I don't know how these videos are made under Luminosity). If not in the title, at least thumbnail insert him?

[@teddginn1]

i get what you’re saying but isn’t he the host so everyone can just assume he will be it?

[@lilCork100]

😂 lol smash kids dont get it. Most podcast only have 1 or 2 people in the thumbnail. Even if its nba or financial podcast. Keep doing the thumbnails how yall doing it

[@marlinmurrell620]

I agree

[@bluehunt3436]

LG Invitational Roster??? Leo, Maister, Tweek, Light, Riddles, Sonix, Spargo, Shadic, Zomba, Dabuz???

[@SpyggtSpaghetti]

Put maister in the thumbnails

[@NiihiLo]

It’s mad that maister is never in the titles

[@jsjung0817]

Catzuya

[@quickhatch1656]

Them leaving Maister off the title and thumbnail probably drives engagement crazy lol. Maybe that’s why they do it.

[@Monk3yBoy305]

FreeMaister

[@BOBSUSHI32]

Oh is Maister not in this video?

[@BlindRamb0]

Doesn't Maister make theses videos?

[@anonwalkerr]

kola next

[@LoafGaemr]

That would be lit I Kola is one of my favorite Players

[@alecorn5200]

In pretty sure EE already spoiled the other 2

[@cjwerner2747]

I don't have a strong opinion on where kazuya is on tier list, but I do have a strong opinion on the character being a bag of b.s.++

[@SadFace229]

Riddles' Cloud was obviously untested, unpolished, clearly a brand new character he was learning. And yet he put up a fight against Onin. No disrespect to Riddles, he's one of the best players in the meta, has experience from Spargo on optimal Cloud play, and Cloud is easy to play by average Smash character standards while Riddles' line up contains some of the most technically involved characters in the cast, but that Steve matchup has to be in Cloud's favor. I bet Riddles while vod reviewing thought to himself "Aw man I could have done a Rising Dair to spike Onin in one of those edgeguarding situations I put him in". Or perhaps Onin was being too lax and I should be giving him for flack.

[@kava3957]

He’s played cloud on his stream from way back. Not a new character he was learning.

[@SadFace229]

@@kava3957 Fair, but I would imagine there's some leniency in calling a character new when there's not much data using them in bracket. To give an example, Leo did a video on his channel about himself having the potential to be the best Roy some years back. It's only now we're seeing his Roy in bracket. But I suppose you could say I'm giving Riddles too much credit and he does have a good amount of experience with Cloud and he can't just whip out a character he played for a couple weeks and go toe to toe with one of the best Steve players in the world.

[@zeropointgravity9051]

i want riddles in luminosity :/

[@TwinHacari]

Why do i feel like JaZaR will be invited?

[@jiyu3027]

So did Kola play a part in Leo maining roy or....

[@risingfuture209]

They're likely not gonna mention Kola whatsoever, there's like in-between-the-lines beef between Kola and Leo (feels very apparent since that whole thing with Leo saying Kola fell off/Roy wasn't meta etc)

[@extonjonas6820]

I mean I doubt it. I am sur the has been always considering it for a while

[@originssb8160]

Kazuya is like 7 or 8 within top 10 but not top 5

[@TwinHacari]

Nah. Hes called the blue man for a reason. Top 5

[@user-mf1lo5fj6s]

Kazuya’s disadvantage is the only thing holding him back from being top 5 imo.

[@vertarix]

mkleo wins luminosity invitational

[@emeraldgiss]

Watch was it just so happenes dabuz gets put against leo round 1

[@plant_enjoyer_69]

Im a RiddlesEnjoyer69

[@Rocco_lifts]

Rizzles needs to be on more podcasts, he’s just a good personality

[@JAPANESE_MAPLE]

i got braces today so maybe i could be the best smash pro ?

[@dripfoe_3307]

I'm about to get braces, do they hurt???

[@kava3957]

@@dripfoe_3307they will at first you might even have trouble chewing and eating

[@dripfoe_3307]

@@kava3957 Bet

[@colsjosep5777]

lol😂 everyone hate pikachu so much😂😂😂 still saying its top 5…..

[@JAPANESE_MAPLE]

i HATE playing against corrin or playing her /him.

[@Fpl8646]

My Goat is washed man 🥲🥲🥲

[@Adizzyizzy]

Oh dog I got scared Riddles joined Luminosity LMAO I almost unsubbed

[@lordecore9831]

Please change the name, it's pretty cringey and the hosts call it "goat talks"

[@Locymt]

Leo is the GOAT of ultimate in terms of all time results wdym?

[@JAPANESE_MAPLE]

kayuza is not top five iam not a pro btw

[@TwinHacari]

Now kazuya deniers can eat it up and a face the fact their character is brainfead and broken. Kazuya top 5

[@fupalover]

Kazuya isn't top 5. Yall just don't know how to play vs Kazuya

[@SonamSlash]

Kazuya top 1

[@fupalover]

And I'm not bias even tho my main +2 Kazuya

[@Sancnea]

The top rep of the character is the one saying it. But fupalover says otherwise so I guess everyone sucks and fupalover will show us the way.

[@adamxo.]

@Sancnea exactly surely we wouldn't listen to the best smash players in the world but the true underground king humbly waiting to cast his chance on taking over the smash world

[@fupalover]

@@Sancnea If you wanna be a sheep be a sheep.

[@tonyq3372]

Bro riddles sux, he got destroyed by that min min player, 1 min. match come on bruh

[@NaughtyPigMario]

u wouldn't do better

[@tonyq3372]

@@NaughtyPigMario yeah cuz I'm not a pro player, this is not my living.

[@theelectricant98]

So what he got cheesed by min min

[@tonyq3372]

@@theelectricant98 that isn't cheesed bro stop sucking up to a guy you don't even know

[@SoraSomaFMAB]

[@lordzevallos]

I’m here for Maister 🫡