MLM HORROR STORIES #9 | Beachbody rep getting angry for being caught in a lie

[@annacostello5181]

Is water pH still a thing? A friend tried to sell me a $35 bottle of “alkalinity pills” to raise pH in your drinking water. I looked at the ingredients. Bicarbonate soda. Didn’t even pretend to add vitamins or anything. I told her I could buy a large box of Arm n Hammer for 95 cents at any grocery store. She pretended not to understand. Hey, girls. Chemistry matters

[@AlienZizi]

that is so shameless 😭

[@rachelcrawford3252]

I mean everything has a pH but that just sounds crazy

[@lauriechan1426]

Sounds disgusting tbh...if i wanted water with soda, i would just buy, you know, a soda 🤣

[@annedoe3039]

@@rachelcrawford3252 everything has a ph but your body doesn’t give a shit about the ph of water unless it’s high enough or low enough to literally be caustic and burn which at that point it’s no longer water since it’s mixed with so much other stuff 😅

[@Akiku2]

Water has a ph of 7, which is neutral.

[@tash4270]

In Oprah voice "and you get a spa day, and you get a spa day and EVERYONE gets a spa day" 🤣

[@HannahAlonzo]

Oh my gosh yes exactly 😂

[@pattipeters9861]

😂🤣😂🤣

[@mylifeinsweden575]

,🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@fantazia5672]

That girl from the Instagram rant talking about her amazing friends she gets to keep even if she walks away actually broke my heart for her. Most of the time they ghost you. You’re dead to them when you leave.

[@DynaKitty]

You don't have to pay for genuine friends. It's so sad that they just don't understand that. The 'friends' you pay for won't stay when the money stops.

[@tcort]

I find the differences in language when talking about MLMs super fascinating. One of the submissions mentions that the grandparents were "in Amway". When talking about someone who works for Ulta, we don't typically say they're "in Ulta".

[@HannahAlonzo]

Very true!! Difference between getting a job and joining a cult 😅

[@honeylis7]

interesting.. true, I am IN Ulta right now but I don't work here LOL!

[@J_Honor_]

Well they believe they have a stake in the company. Very different than stock in the company

[@perryegolson833]

@@J_Honor_ What they really have is nothing but a garage full of unused overpriced laundry detergent that they'll never get rid of.

[@bib4eto656]

@not your cat to me, it sounds like "they're in scientology"

[@whateverchannel22]

Also....who tries (lies) to brag about making a grand a YEAR???!!!

[@jessicabillhardt8776]

Also, If you did Net $1,000 and that wasn't just her sales revenue, that is only an $83 a month (before taxes) salary. And say she worked 40 hrs a week for the whole year. That is only $.48 an hr. I think the reason moms are one of the main target markets for MLM's is because we are used to working 24/7 without pay, so just a little bit of extra money sounds like a win. But, no one would accept that job offer if it was put in actual per-hour terms.

[@NormaJean951]

Not really. Some of us have actual jobs and parent and keep up the house. Speak for yourself.

[@jessicabillhardt8776]

@@NormaJean951 well your name doesn't give you much credibility lol. You missed my point completely

[@AveryCreates]

I absolutely hate how predatory it is. 😭

[@eragonarya225]

To put it in perspective, the average wage for New York prisoners working in a state-owned business is $.62 per hour. American prisoners get pittance wages and yet many of them still make more money than she did in an MLM.

[@zzevonplant]

100%. Like, I'm a stay-at-home mom, & I do Uber Eats - & it pays, well, not super well (unless you're in a big city maybe?) I make like $150 a week, sometimes less. But, I still don't ever work for $1/hour or less, good grief. I get decent money per hour worked, it's just that there aren't a ton of orders always, & I only work a couple hours a day when I have time to. So, I'm willing to deal with iffy pay to be able to work whenever I can, choose what orders I take, etc. - but just straight up losing money and time for NOTHING!? Ouch.

[@leahdeitrick4320]

I think it's important to note that companies like Avon and Tupperware started as traditional direct sales (think door to door sales people) and didn't enter the MLM structure until after companies like Herbalife and Amway enter the scene in the late 80s and early nineties. Like the other viewer, I remember flipping through my grandmother's catalog with her Avon lady's name and number stickered on the cover, an being excited by the little samples - but my grandmother was never as to "join a team" because that wasn't a thing for Avon in the 80s. You just had a local woman who was your sales rep and she made commission on sales.

[@smooth_pursuit]

Yes! My mom got the catalogue in the 70s and bought the occasional product from “the Avon Lady”, but would NEVER have given a moment to someone trying to bully her into sales 🤣

[@caitlinhanson8631]

That make sense! I have a lot of older friends and relatives who have talked about loving Avon and Tupperware "when they were good". Of course the quality of the products went down when they turned into pyramid schemes

[@rosewafes]

Thank you for saying this. I understand that Avon is an MLM now, but my grandma sold decades ago and never had that experience. She was truly just a sales rep, consolidating orders from customers and then bagging them up for delivery.

[@atlassierising]

I had the same experience when I was 20 in a Target! I was picking-up some things for a swim lesson I was going to go teach and this couple came up to me. They complimented me on something and they talked about how they were going to this meeting at a house to get guidance because they were going to retire by 30, living their most successful life, etc. I grew up in Las Vegas, and was in a target there and I 100% also thought they were trying to traffic me (or were swingers or something). I got out of there reported them to the target staff and the staff member was like 'oh again?' and they apparently had already been kicked out several times for cornering people about this!

[@whenimonmymoon6822]

Hahahahahahahaha I love the idea of just telling MLM huns they sound like traffickers and swingers. The horror on their faces.

[@ashleyfarre]

Omg hi Shannon! It’s so funny “seeing” you again here on this random video! (We swam together on BCH)

[@ghostlyMostly1]

I had the same experience in TJ Maxx. She started hinting around she was working on being and entrepreneur and creating a residual income. I said " Oh you mean an MLM?" And her face fell. I felt bad until she said "No" and tried to frame it differently.

[@HannahAlonzo]

Oh wow!! She was like "dang she's onto me!"

[@rondotexe]

At 14:59 my jaw dropped. She might as well have said "Well, you know in a sales job you won't make anything in the first 2 or 3 years". They're not the same! 🤯

[@clairek4080]

1) I've had one patient with altered kidney function after using MLM weight loss products. Once she stopped, all returned to normal. 2) Hannah I love how kind you are and how gentle your tone/voice is.

[@jessicabillhardt8776]

I am so sick of MLM Distributors talking about how small business owners do not make a profit when they first start. This is true but they are not considering that Net Income for a business is not the same as a salary. Small business owners still pay themselves, and that is part of their business expenses. Net Income is revenue - costs of goods sold - all other business expenses. So when a regular business does not make a profit, that does not mean that they did not pay their employees or themselves, it just means that their Net Income was not in the green. With an MLM, the distributors do not do this calculation. If they did, they would realize that they are taking home a very small salary, if any.

[@bree-8xiw6]

This is absolutely spot on! I did Mary Kay for a while and whenever I’d ask my up line for advice about the “accounting” side of it, she would always just tell me not to worry because it would always even out in the end. They really brainwash you! Every week during team meetings, women would submit their total profits from parties for the week and the top earners would be announced. The “catch” was your up line always knew how much you were making…so If you had a $1000 week you were told you made $500 in profit!!! The other $500 was expected go toward buying the product you sold or into a weekly or monthly order to the company for inventory. You were never taught to factor in the cost of gas, postage, samples, shipping cost to order product, or the up-to $40 worth of free product given to each guest of a party. Thankfully I never invested any of my own money in but I hardly made a penny over an entire year, even though on paper should have make $20k!

[@kerriwright4593]

If ahe walked away, she would no longer have those amazing ladies she's seeing in a month, but she is clearly unaware.

[@alexia3552]

Or, painfully, she is aware. I’m convinced the community is what keeps people in cults and scams

[@cdcdogs4961]

🌹 I once had a man corner me at an office supply store. He also claimed I looked so familiar to him but couldn’t remember where he knew me from. He named a few possible ways he might know me, I shot down his every possibility. I wasn’t 100% sure what his game was but he wasn’t backing off and I was done. Finally I suggested one possibility as to why he might recognize me, I asked him if he ever read Playboy. 🤔 You should have seen the look on his face. 😳🤣 I should also mention that this all happened in the heart of Utah County. 🥴 Whatever the reason, that was enough to shut him down. 🤣🤣🤣

[@timriehl1500]

Here's something I wish the huns would realize: Their MLM's DO NOT QUALIFY FOR AN SBA LOAN!!! But how can that be if they are small business owners???? I wish they would connect the dots. And you are totally right about the older MLMs appearing legit. I am female but use a male name on social media because when I use my very female name, I get some very offensive replies from trolls. But II remember the Avon lady and how I LOVED looking through the Avon catalogues. When I moved to NYC, I was walking down a street and saw an Avon "booth" where they were trying to recruit people. I "kitnapped" the bags they were giving out, but then was weirded out when they wanted me to buy a kit to sell--I thought, "Wait, when did Avon become an MLM???" Now from watching your videos, I am realizing Avon has ALWAYS been an MLM, LOL.

[@HannahAlonzo]

That is such a good point about the SBA loan!!

[@annacostello5181]

@@HannahAlonzo yes, when the mlm’r said joining an mlm was just like starting a small business. That sounded shady but I know nothing about business. I was thinking there has to be several clear signs your business is legit. Small Business Loan qualification works

[@1234567891o1112]

To the beach body girl: I’m a business owner and broke even on my business a month and a half after opening my doors. She’s insane

[@eloisepharmacist]

So have quite a few of my mates with legitimate small businesses.

[@PlaymatShowdown]

13:45 Pitch it, Sell it, Move it Bop it, Twist it, Pull it. Anyone else remember that old toy?

[@reidleblanc3140]

BOP IT! ... TWIST IT! .... PULL IT! .... BOP-EAERRRRR. OH NO!

[@Blue_Jane]

I don’t have a horror story… but at one of the car washes in my city, there is a wall of card holders for local businesses to leave their business cards (free advertising). I always search for the MLM ones. The other day, found a bunch of Vector/CutCo cards and threw them in the trash!

[@HannahAlonzo]

Doing the lord's work!

[@Miss081788]

.... I never considered trashing other people’s biz cards.... 🤭

[@lifeofatruckerswife]

good for you!!!! my daughter was accepted into her dream university...and was literally packing her stuff last summer...she took a break to check the mail...comes back in with a letter addressed to her...from cutco...no letterhead..I had to look up the phone number on the paper...I was so mad...they target young people...who should be either getting ready to go to college...or enter into the real work force..

[@Jay_758]

They always sounds like they're trying to convince themselves that they're not being scammed by making everyone else sound like they're missing out

[@leekspinner]

That video was gold. The hesitant micro pauses, almost stutters this girl was making is just chef's kiss. "Crap, how do I make this failure look like not a failure?" Amazing.

[@amandatorres2064]

And just her overall tone of putting down who she was really talking to, as if she is so much better and as if the letter writer wasn’t good enough. How many times did she say “it’s not for everyone…” 🙄 What a sucky attitude!

[@Sarakatbee]

I used to work near a mall and I would run over to the food court for lunch, I got stopped by several huns, MK, Primerica etc. the last time one stopped me with the same line as the rest of them “Omg, I just have to tell you, you look SO well put together!” And I said, “Thank you, I am not interested in joining your team for whatever it is you’re selling.” She got very offended and stuttered that she just wanted to tell me she liked my purse and stomped off. I feel like if she wasn’t a hun she would have just laughed instead of getting so huffy that I assumed she was trying to recruit me.

[@craft_yplanning1012]

That first story about Mary Kay I could tell immediately. And you are right, there are no "winners". Everyone gets the spa day so consultants can have a opportunity for more contacts (speaking from a former MK consultant). It's a common tactic. Pretty crappy honestly. Then your "winner" is instructed to write down any names from their phone whom would be interested in a free one too.

[@ljanes2655]

I’m curious, was there a suggested timeline for how long you follow up with someone? I ended up at one of those parties and I bought some skincare stuff. And then the rep called me once a month for a whole year.

[@craft_yplanning1012]

@@ljanes2655 they will do that even though the products are supposed to last several months because they have to have $250 in sales I think it's every 2 months to stay active and collect their commissions. So they will do that to hit that. Otherwise they have to buy that amount theirselves.

[@bree-8xiw6]

@@craft_yplanning1012 ex MK hun here! Yup you have that right! It’s $250 every 3 months, even though of course they advertise as a no-quota company. But if you’re inactive, you don’t receive commissions and don’t get product for the 50% discount. so there are quotas lol. As for the calling, We were told to follow up 2 days, then 2 weeks, then every 2 months after that or whenever a new product came out. We also were supposed to book a “follow up appointment” with Each guest at the party and encourage them to bring 5 guests.

[@ArtLenLa]

Conning people into having a party, that’s all that was. I’m a little confused as to whether the event organizers were aware.

[@craft_yplanning1012]

@@ArtLenLa the customers don't realize they were never the only "winner". They think it's a actual giveaway and they won. And the consultants are trained to do this and made to feel it's the normal thing to do to get leads. When they are new, they just want so much for their "business" to work that they don't realize this isn't normal.

[@AllLifeIsTravesty]

_"It's not your business how much money I make!"_ You know, when I apply for a regular job they tell me how much money I'll make an hour. Why should I join this business if I don't have even an idea of how much I could make in return? Doesn't sound exactly like the stable extra flow of income they describe it as, just sayin'.

[@lauriechan1426]

Or many interviewers even ask 'what are your salary expectations?'...because they know you are there for something, and if your expectation is too high they tell you right away to see if you do want to continue with the process

[@stephaniethesoprano]

but according to her, earning consistent and reliable income isn't for everyone!

[@this.is.mallory]

MLMs are the most successful "get company employees to be the customers" scam ever.

[@lacedhexes]

I really don't understand how MLMs are still legal. If they are blatantly saying that it's more important to recruit new people than to sell products. Isn't that exactly what pyramid scheme is?

[@lisahance]

It's scary how many people have had bad side effects from Thrive patches. That poor person who had a headache for 10 days before seeing a doctor - but at least she went. I worked with a man who had a really severe headache for several days, didn't see a doctor, and on day 6 had a stroke at work! He had undiagnosed high blood pressure (he did recover, and to be clear, was not using Thrive). But this is the type of thing people are risking when they use products like these.

[@HannahAlonzo]

Oh my goodness! So glad to hear he's okay!

[@euenfheiejrj]

I just think about the watts family.

[@beckiehubley5798]

I was in Mary Kay for like 3 minutes...lost 400$....a story in itself. Anyhow, yes, you are supposed to set it up as a draw, and...shocker....everyone wins. I wasn't in long enough to do that, not that I would have anyway.

[@stormieo4252]

I love to see your first reactions to things. So sad to see how they explain themselves deeper into being exploited.

[@HannahAlonzo]

Yeah this was fun to blind react!

[@morganadvantures]

The video of the hun going on about how you must love the products, use the products, etc. really convinced me that the reps are the biggest customers.

[@courtneytaylor6712]

I love the story of the girl saying it takes years to make a return on investment with business. Wrong my first year in business was 8 months and I made way beyond what I put in for startup.

[@kellyspryszak80]

It’s truly scary how many people will start using supplements on the advice of MLM reps. If you’re willing to take advice from just about anybody, it just proves further that vulnerable people are the main target.

[@HannahAlonzo]

YES. Like taking supplements your body doesn't need can actually be harmful to your health. Please consult a professional!!

[@ZoeAlleyne]

Imagine going to a job interview and they told you that how much you can actually make is none of your business. That is basically what these huns are doing.

[@kendragarza5958]

Lol I’m the same. I started watching you for Poshmark and then started watching your anti mlm content and went down a rabbit hole that I’m still in!

[@HannahAlonzo]

Yessss I love to hear it!!

[@katiestmarie1306]

I got cornered in a hobby lobby by an “it works” hun telling me she had a Wrap for my “mummy tummy”. Seriously I was so offended cuz I really was okay with my stomach. She just pinned me out cuz I had my son with me

[@wurdnurd1]

Re cost of starting a business: you know how much I spent to sell on Amazon? Zero. How about Poshmark? Again, zero. I started with selling what I already had, didn't need, and could make a profit. With the Amazon selling, I took what I made and reinvested in additional inventory, and never had to spend my own money (especially since I was unemployed and just finishing grad school at the time). Sooooo....yeah.

[@amandatorres2064]

I wish I knew how to get started in something like this. I want to work from home so badly.

[@elliek6657]

Ew, I feel bad for those children in the last story and their parents. I wonder if the teacher used any of her students work for her sales pitches… which is crazy because at least in college teachers are always talking about never steal people’s work without giving them credit. Just gives me bad vibes all around. Great work as always!!

[@roguestowl2280]

How can you sell something you’ve never tried? Exactly. That’s why when I was a car salesman I bought a new Subaru every month. (No I didn’t.)

[@Bananachan289]

On my goddddd she admitted that you have to love coaching because you won’t make much money 🤦‍♀️

[@debramccord7707]

I got roped into one of those Mary Kay things many years ago. The product I put in my face immediately caused an intense burning sensation. I do not have sensitive skin AT ALL. I immediately told the MK hun I was on 🔥 and she told me I was not. Huh? Ma’am, my face is on fire. She was obviously not qualified to be doing anything with skin and she insisted I must have “done it wrong”. Long story short, run if a MK hun approaches you.

[@Blackmail1]

MK products gave me skin allergies, I must say that I do have delicate skin but the burning sensation with MK last me days.

[@ashley_huff92]

The Mary Kay ruse happened to me after a bridal show. My sister-in-law and I both “won” a “bridal pampering package” soooo it seems like that’s a widespread Mary Kay tactic. The hun texted me and I agreed to do it…but I never texted her back after I realized it was for MK

[@HannahAlonzo]

HAHA good for you for sniffing out that it was an MLM! That's crazy, I can't believe that's something they're trained to do! So sneaky!

[@FlyNicCrafts]

Yes David’s Bridal have deals with MK reps, the reps pay David’s Bridal a monthly fee to get a lead list! They also sometimes set up in bridal shops.

[@ashleydanielson3222]

@@FlyNicCrafts yes, I was contacted by a Mary Kay lady after purchasing a wedding dress from David’s Bridal. I didn’t have a bad experience but it’s weird that they did that.

[@mistiroberts1576]

You can do that?

[@marisacowan603]

I know a crackhead or two and I KNOW their energy is not spent on an MLM. I'm sorry, lol, Hannah, I couldn't help myself!

[@HannahAlonzo]

💀💀💀

[@capercaillieskye]

Also, that "How can you recommend a product you haven't tried?" argument is a really odd one. If these huns really were small business owners, they would have created/designed/commissioned/etc the products themselves lol, it would be their products, so there wouldn't be a situation where they "hadn't tried the product yet." But MLM reps are not actually small business owners, these are not their products, and this argument is a good way to get them to buy way more products than they actually need.

[@Jo-razz]

😆 the part in the story that I found most funny, is when this lady try to talk to her & sounded like it took at least 3 to 4 minutes, but then when the lady seen her in a different store, same location, she didn't even remember her, & started into the same questions. Makes me believe that she talks too many people for her to even keep track or remember who she already talked to. That is sad. Side-note- I bet workers at those stores remember her. "She is here again, here she goes again. 🥴

[@briannahatcher9422]

Not sure if you changed your upload schedule or what it is but the past couple times you've uploaded I've been already on KZbin watching or looking for something to what. Whatever timing you've picked is perfect (for me at least lol)

[@HannahAlonzo]

Haha I love it! The time of day has stayed the same but last month I was posting Wed-Sat and this month it’s Mon/Wed/Thurs 🥰

[@kerriwright4593]

I tried thrive and instead of getting energy i couldn't stay awake. I was exhausted and just wanted to sleep always. I think it's because i have adhd.

[@mkaylor121]

Its hard to think of Tupperware as an MLM because they have quality products. My mom had hosted tupperware parties when i was little and she still has tupperware in her cupboard to this day.

[@stephaniebobek817]

I have an empty margarine container that is 40 yes old

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

"If you're not a business person you wouldn't get it" - You're not a business person. You're an unpaid employee.

[@catmandoozie1]

This Mary Kay story is exactly what happened to me. Here began my journey into the world of MLM. Maybe one of these days, I will send my story.

[@dahliacheung6020]

It's just straight up AWFUL that she's bragging about being "only $300 short of breaking even!" And then she so casually blames it on her work ethic and calls herself lazy!!!??? Noooo!!!!!! She's already so brainwashed and it's so sad.

[@Jo-razz]

2nd commitment- yes I worked for a clothing store, & could wear anything I wanted, as long as it was sold there & didn't have to wear it from head to toe. They gave me 2 weeks to have something of theirs & I got a clothing allowance in the beginning to start me off, plus 40% discount on most clothing after that. The best was I knew at the end of the week I was getting paid. Yes they are sales people, but even then the their MLM do not treat them right. In my opinion

[@Mrs_Wyllie]

I have had the Mary Kay “spa party” be a reward too! I didn’t know what is was until I showed up with a couple friends.

[@bekalynn1994]

I never do the polls or answer the questions on peoples social media stories or posts. Its all a trap to get you to interract.

[@purplhaze5464]

I was in mk for too many years. EVERYBODY “wins” the raffles

[@devonedesign]

I was sucked in to Mary Kay when I moved to a new state and knew no one. These MLM people are NOT your friends. As soon as you quit, you will never hear from them again unless it’s to try to get you to rejoin or buy something. It breaks my heart to see others sucked into this.

[@RockLikeAStone]

I remember my doctor telling me I should buy doteras (I don’t really care if I spent it right) vitamins or whatever to help with my anxiety. She wouldn’t tell me the generic name for the vitamin she was suggesting but she did give me her reps card.

[@smooth_pursuit]

Your DOCTOR??! She needs to be reported and have her license taken away! Unbelievable!!!

[@RockLikeAStone]

@@smooth_pursuit Honestly I didn't because aside from this incident she really helped changed my life and gave me many answers as to my health. Plus in Idaho that's unfortunately normal so not much would have probably happened

[@irisx1602]

Mental note to self that when I’m done writing my xmas cards I will actually finish my horror story and send it in 😂😂

[@HannahAlonzo]

Yay I can't wait!!

[@dani28529]

Beachbody shakes made me feel sick too 😮 probably one of the 1000 ingredients in there lol

[@honeylis7]

It absolutely IS my business how much money you make if you're RECRUITING me to do the SAME JOB. If it was a person hiring at a normal company they would say, "Hi, thanks for applying, this position pays $15 per hour" or whatever. In one IG story they say they're "hiring for their team" but they don't want to tell you the pay. Which is it??! Gah, it's infuriating.

[@stephaniethesoprano]

yes! Why would I join these shady af "businesses" when there are jobs out there that will give me this information?

[@jolo3118]

Ha. I love it: "Correct me if I'm wrong" ...but keep your mouth shut when you're talking to me. 😂

[@RedHotMessResell]

You know what that last one reminds me of? Anyone remember those catalog’s they’d give us in elementary school and they’d have us try to sell all this useless garbage to people? It’s like they were teaching us how an MLM works at a young age. Like they said “if you want to ride in a limo in April during school hours, you will sell X Amount.” I look back and think “what the hell? We were 10!”

[@beez3077]

I’ve just found your channel. Thank you! I’ve shared your channel with my daughter, and her friends as they are in the 20’s stage. Again, thank you!

[@wurdnurd1]

OH! AND AVON IS IN CVS!! Seriously, I was there on Sunday, and they had a body moisturizer right there, besides the Nivea and Jergens. I was about to take a photo and call everyone I knew, then remembered that no one I know is actively anti-mlm, so they may respond to adjust my meds...

[@zosostarship7133]

Yeahhh...I have an ACTUAL small photography business and I get to stay at home and have time freedom and I'm doing great, hun. :)

[@MiriamVance.]

An entrepreneur controls the product and it’s price.

[@Menoetia]

11:21 I'm dying laughing because... _any time_ I spend my personal money on something work-related my manager tells me to make a copy of the receipt (or screenshot and email a copy) so that she can reimburse me on my next paycheck. When I saw that my coworkers were using old empty mask boxes to store their little sundries in, I bought the stuff to make everyone their own snap-top boxes with their names on each one... and was reimbursed the $50 I spent. My spouse's employer gave him an allowance to go buy appropriate boots for work (union job ftw). Sure, if you own your business _you_ have to spend the money but that's an investment that you see returned but an MLM is not an investment, it's an _expense_ that you'll never see paying itself back.

[@crystalpolice]

I just found you through CC Suarez. Already loving the content!

[@HannahAlonzo]

Aw wow I love that so much! Hi Crystal! ❤️

[@DoingStuffWithDiana]

I started teaching my baby sign language and she picked up on it quick! 😳 I hope more parents start teaching it too

[@SoCalJellybean]

Okay, but why is this girl out here bragging about making $1,000 a year?!?! 🤨 Ma’am… unless it’s the year 1900, that’s NOT A FLEX!!

[@HollyBerry0255]

I've built two small businesses from the ground and honestly find it so offensive when I get huns in my DMS saying they have there own business. They have no idea what it actually takes to have your own businesses. It's ridiculous.

[@Universecompound]

Nutritional supplements are often spiked with non regulation medication . Green tea extract is linked with liver damage .

[@tashaedwards]

I’ve been pitched at Target and Office Depot. It’s just as awkward as you imagine.

[@icetypejulia]

Omg on that last story, we did a similar project in 8th grade math but we had to create outfits within a budget and whoever got closest to the budget won a little prize

[@OutoftheBoxThrift]

yes we love the crossover between posh & anti MLM, I'm lucky I love both these types of content!! youre killin it

[@therealdeal3672]

"Coach" is such an abused term and title. It has become so cheapened by false coaches.

[@camyluv11]

Omg the one about selling internet door to door!!! I had the same experience but in Portland, Oregon.

[@storyranger]

I honestly believe Avon has stood the test of time because they actually have good products and I think if they moved from a direct sales model to a retail model they could be just as if not more successful. My grandma had the catalogues from a friend and that used to be one of the highlights of my childhood, and every so often my mom would actually let me order something and we still use the home decor I bought. As an adult I don't buy because I don't support MLM companies but if I were ever to make an exception, it would be for Avon.

[@Galworld761]

I do like their hand lotion. My aunt buys me one for Christmas every year. Along with socks. I am in my 40’s….it is adorable. But, I think she has been buying from the same neighbor lady for 30 years? I grew up in the Noetheast. Aside from some Herbalife in inner cities, you don’t see too many MLMs. Certainly not people rocking LulaRoe

[@kaylarealtalk_safespace5127]

Yay. New video! 💖 You always do these stories justice. & I'm here to help your algorithm 😆

[@HannahAlonzo]

Thanks Kayla!!

[@terraalbritton6405]

My husband has worked various jobs for various high profile companies. Never have any of his companies asked for money to join....

[@Lisa85]

[@bree-8xiw6]

Meow!

[@bittyanne6362]

Team National! That’s the MLM my parents, aunt and uncle briefly got sucked into! I’ve been trying to remember the name forever! They worked so hard and never made any money in case anyone was wondering lol.

[@S-R-H]

I saw a Tupperware car the other day. It was SO weird!! Like, who sells that much Tupperware today?

[@katelynnwho55]

I just went to a home and garden show expo at my home town and there were booths for Sentsy, young living, Advocare (even though their no longer a MLM) and one more I can't think of 🙃

[@Castkett4ever]

I understood "no worries about either of those things" as "no worries about you being French, and about your English not being perfect" instead of "keeping OP anonymous and her English not being perfect because it's not her first language" and I want to thank my non-native speaker brain for that 😂 😂😂😂 hey, at least I got a good laugh :) {context: around the 27 minutes mark} I recently came across your channel -maybe a week ago tops- and have been binge watching ever since! In a video you mentioned how you know probably upwards of 10 people who are in an MLM and as a Swiss young woman who has always live in Switzerland, I had a huge WTH moment! I thought I knew nobody who's in an MLM, but it turns out I have 1 acquaintance who is in Tupperware -do you all also call any food container a "tupperware"? we don't have any from the MLM but here they are very often referred to as such. And I only met said person just before turning 19 -almost 5 years ago. They have never tried to recruit me or post about recruiting/"business opportunity" on FB. The only thing they post is "hey I'm ordering next *insert day*, does anyone want anything?" with a picture of what can be ordered; and they have never pressured people in the comments. Obviously, I don't know what happens in private messages, but nobody has ever left a message about them "forcing or being insistent". It makes me think they might be in just for the discounts? I don't think it's great, but much better than recruiting and stuff. Therefore the techniques used by American MLM huns baffle me and some have truly made me mad and/or cry; especially when the person writing has had something terrible happen to them, like a loss, diagnosis, ... as I have been in treatment for a tumor for the past 9 years, and for the past 6 years, I've been dealing with severe secondary problems due to the tumor and numerous treatments, such as a damaged sciatic nerve, depression, loss of independence, having to stop my studies, to accept the loss of my dream to become a doc and switch to something else, that I haven't been able to start yet. I've lost my dad and best friend to cancer, and I would have punched someone trying to use that as a way to rope me in; thankfully it never happened. Thank you for all the content you post and the awareness and knowledge you bring! MLMs are so predatory and they push brainwashed people to act in ways they would never even think of, were they not in an MLM. I love the colours of your cup ;)

[@dawnoheee9524]

18:39 Hannah's facial expression at this statement. I was like "Did she REALLY say that?" I played it back and was like "Dang! She really DID say that. Crazy!" I kinda feel sorry for her, then she cusses or says something stupid like this and any pity flies out the window.

[@reginalorca3215]

I've seen soooo many of your videos in 3 days!! I love them

[@killercoyote130]

Going to a full time job and spending so much that you owe them money when payday comes means you have a hobby, not a job 😂

[@terraalbritton6405]

The same thing happened to me! I invited friends and family to my free "spa night" just to find out it was a Mary Kay sales pitch. I was so embarrassed in front of my friends and sister. I had a friend selling Mary Kay who claimed I was wearing "pollution" since I was a young mom with clear skin so I wore no makeup. Mary Kay makeup supposedly guards your face from "pollution." I lived in a small, rural area not known for pollution!

[@gotasixpac]

I am not surprised to see that someone had an issue with Thrive!! I used the vitamin patches and they made my arms go numb! Not a good experience!

[@gabrielamarcano453]

I am loving your videos more and more every day. When you said today's video had 6 stories I got so excited lol 😅🥰 I really hope you get tons and tons of subscribers

[@DawnietotheMax]

33:22 Believe me you there are a lot of older people that have been disgusted with Amway. I'm 50 and I remember my mother's disdain for Amway from when I was a child. I'm not sure if my Dad had sold it back in the '70s and that's why my mother didn't care for it.

[@Ikine557]

I honestly don't even agree that you have to have personal experience with a product to sell it. If you get some random sales job out in the real world, they don't force you to buy all their products before you sell them.

[@summermartin6895]

It’s so uncomfortable how it feels like they are trying to convince themselves that what they are saying is true while they are preaching to us on instagram lives lol

[@channel69gorlworldnews66]

“Crackhead energy” is the most disgusting phrase I’ve ever heard

[@HannahAlonzo]

Yeah really don’t love that 😂

[@Blue_Jane]

This hun has clearly never met a “crackhead”

[@dqverify6797]

Yeah, I caught that, too, and found it pretty gross.

[@elsathorson830]

I thought that was usually used in a negative way

[@llovley]

Team National was an MLM that has since closed. A friend of mine from high school who was also our real estate agent when my husband & I bought our first house used to sell fake eyelashes in what I suspect was an MLM. She was also in Team National and it's pitched as discounts on products and services you already buy and use. She did fairly well in it getting a cruise, with other TN reps, for her sales. She's all about "passive income" and I think she's been in a few other MLMs. Luckily she hasn't pitched the "business" opportunities to me. But I will say she's a phenomenal realtor & got our offer accepted out of 8 other offers that were offering the same price for the home.

[@chaseohara4781]

The door to door Internet sales one is interesting to me. I've had people try to sell me service for both of the major telecom providers in this area (Rogers and Bell are both massive national brands in Canada) and I was aware that they were just third party companies hiring mostly students to try to create leads, but I didn't know it was commission based and basically an MLM! I always tell them I'm not interested. If I want to change my provider I can just call them, and whatever deal the person at the door is offering isn't going to be irrepeatable. I also don't feel comfortable doing something major with a random person at my door who I know is just an un-informed kid.

[@johnfromdownunder.4339]

It's not convidence to do that, it's the lack of respect and empathy and it's rude. It's arrogant and creepy.

[@Nesyaishere]

16:20 even though english is not my first language, i know quite a lot when someone PUT TOO MUCH EMPHASIZE when they want to prove something and what that means. She's dragging everyone to 'FK IT JUST BELIEVE ME' 😂 16:38 see? To only ended up not proving anything and move to talk about something else 😂😂

[@edwardencizo6020]

So I'm a little confused as to why she is mad that her former college mate called her out on the income claims. If she did not want that to be anyone's business, then why did she post it on social media? She was probably hoping no one would question the income claim and instead the claim would make people curious and inquire about her "business". Instead it sounds like it backfired on her. To make matters worse, she feels the need to get back on social media and defend herself. At least that is the sum total of what I got out of that rant. Just subscribed to this channel - love the videos.

[@HannahAlonzo]

Yeah I agree! Thanks for watching Edward! Happy you’re here 😊

[@nicoleurbach2861]

THAT BLOUSE! So cute.

[@HannahAlonzo]

Aw thank you! Target!

[@snalyn3110]

I had the same thing happen to me. My boss had given everyone’s information to a Mary cay hun who said I won (said that to all of us) I said I was a broke student and thankfully she left me alone.

[@Brea890]

My SIL just joined pampered chef and I’m constantly getting invited to online parties now 🙄 and it makes me sad because she posted on Facebook that she was looking for a job to do at home. Less than an hour later she was signed up for pampered chef.

[@eloisepharmacist]

That definitely sounds like a "Hun" jumped straight on her!!!