MLM TOP FAILS #62 | University of Utah Athletics is sponsored by doTERRA?

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

"I can show you how to recruit three to five people per day" then BRAGS about his big achievement of how he recruited 11-12 people in one week (1.5 per day)

[@M_SC]

Math will getcha

[@lquinn410]

Oh, math....

[@karmagal78]

This reminds me of the episode of Schitt’s Creek where one of Moira’s friends sends her stuff for an MLM.

[@elsathorson830]

Yeah even if you do a 5 day work week that's like 2.2 people

[@NottyAries]

People like you are always bringing facts and logic into the discussion. Ughhhh /s

[@TeeKayKay]

A fun way to mess with oily LDS hons is to accuse essential oils of being witchcraft

[@reidleblanc3140]

lmao I need to try this

[@marigoldmeadows]

LOL I’m LDS and think this is hilarious. I’m a Midwest Mormon, and I find the culture of the Western (or Utah) Mormons is WIIIIIILD. It’s so toxic and the fact that so many women are in MLMs makes me so sad.

[@dahliacheung6020]

This is brilliant and I'm going to utilize this whenever possible 😂

[@SjofnBM1989]

"SO YOU'RE SELLING POTIONS!?" Lmao

[@thatfinnishkrista]

Oh you're a god damn genious!!! Love love love

[@rachaelbrown3656]

My father left my mum and I when I was 1 y/o. They had just bought a house. She was a single parent with a mortgage and a divorce and severe depression. She’s my favourite person in the world. I never ever loved her less because she worked. My grandma looked after me a lot because she did have to work, but she still made time for me and she loved me so much. She worked but we went places, we watched tv together, we played. She knew me so well. I will never be able to repay her for the sacrifices she made, but I love her more than anything in this world. To imply that she didn’t “get to know me” because she worked outside of the house is an insult to single parents/working parents everywhere.

[@dopaminey9946]

My mother was stay at home with one child me, me. She did nothing with or for me, did not encourage me, soothe my spirit or hugged me. Your work mom was an actual mom while mine was a narcissist. Nothing to do with work.

[@maryjordansiebert915]

@@dopaminey9946 I just came here to say something very similar to this. I now have no contact with my mother (long story, and mostly because of my recovery with my mental health and substance use, but rooted in this experience). I think that it is horrific that a hun can try to make another mother feel guilty just because she goes out to work during the day (or evening or night), and think that would be a reason that she isn't a 'good mother' when mothering is something that happens throughout life, and has nothing to do with someone's employment status.

[@rebeccamann3]

“… people who decide to work outside the home are not inferior parents. Believe it or not, leaving the house, going to work, interacting with other adults can make you a better parent when you’re at home.” Actually needed that today. Thank you, Hannah. ❤

[@HairByReneeLLC]

I was thinking the same thing. I have always had HUGE respect for my dad, who worked shift work for 11 years then straight days until he retired.

[@Rio26202]

The only thing to consider is that mom being away from her children under 4 often or for longer periods of time causes attachment disorders and other mental health issues. These issues may appear right away or take until the child is fully developed (25) to show up. I understand that sometimes it can’t be helped but mom should do their best to be with there kids until the child is at least 4. This is not mom shaming, it’s the truth. Our kids struggle when we aren’t present.

[@Jenjenrev]

​@@Rio26202numerous studies have actually shown that the children of working mothers are better adjusted, higher achieving, and male children are less misogynistic

[@amytheshihtzumom]

@@Rio26202citation needed

[@sakurayankishi9708]

@@Rio26202then what of dads, do they not get the same treatment

[@xladycaosx]

My mom was a stay-at-home mom until I was about 4 yo. She has no idea of who I am (up to this day), and has rarely respected my decisions or taste in anything. I haven't counted on her for anything important since I was a teen. There's literally zero relation between being a stay-at-home parent and being a good one 🙄🙄🙄🙄 (edited for grammar/info)

[@reidleblanc3140]

yep lol my mom retired and has only started verbally abusing me MORE since. at least she pretended to like me when she was working.

[@janabomersbach4466]

As a stay at home mom who suffered an identity crisis, I feel like I might have been a better parent working outside the home. Who knows. Mom guilt happens in every form. Love my boys though. However every other mom I met in Mom’s club was in an MLM. I went to “parties” but was never tempted to join.

[@kiterafrey]

While in college I left my student activity council over MLMs and shady companies. Young Living, Kirby Vac, CutCo, and 2 SmartCircle branches all paid to come to our career fair. We all voted no, but they offered to pay 3x the booth rent and the board overruled the student council. I left over it because I couldn't be apart of a council that could be bought off that was meant to protect students by giving us a voice. They didn't really give us a voice.

[@jmeg7412]

That’s messed up 🤦‍♀️ seems unethical to me! You were a smart college student! I, on the other hand, not so much. I was sucked into Mary Kay 😂 But I hated selling and everything that went with it. I gave up 2 weeks in 😂

[@roysalnoman]

​@@jmeg7412 is tiens a mlm😢

[@kiterafrey]

@@jmeg7412 Sadly I was only smart because I grew up in a church jammed full of MLMs. The prosperity gospel really pushed women into it & I grew up watching people fail. After a while I realized it wasn't tge hard working moms it was the system. Now if only the rest of my family would too.

[@a-1886]

Cutco was something we bought from. We felt bad for my cousin. He said the promised him a bmw. Poor dude. It was such a long time ago

[@ming-meiizhao1902]

cutco came to my uni! there were fliers all over the cafeteria.

[@MotJ949]

What’s sad about the little kid getting their hair cut is that instead of being present in the moment and enjoying the experience, mom was busy on her phone hustling sales. A 9-5 mom could just turn off the phone and enjoy a special moment with their kiddo because they don’t have to work their hustle 24-7.

[@sharim]

Exactly. How are you supposed to ‘know’ your child when you’re busy filming them? It’s like all the people who go to the Grand Canyon and spend the entire vacation taking pictures or ‘selfies’ (gag).

[@HatsuneMiku-oh7be]

​@@sharimI get your point, but the issue with the child and taking pictures on vacation are completely different. If I'm going to the Grand Canyon, I'm taking as many pictures as I can so I can look back on those moments. Sounds like you are miserable and have no memories.

[@verityv5284]

So true

[@Saphia_]

@@HatsuneMiku-oh7be You don't have to take pictures for memories. Saying someone who is against spending the entire vacation taking photos is miserable and has no memories is just as stupid of an opinion as saying someone shouldn't take a single picture on a vacation (which the person you're replying to isn't saying btw). Pictures should be there to capture the memories you make during a trip/vacation, not the entire memory of the vacation.

[@PointsofData]

​@@HatsuneMiku-oh7be "Spend the entire vacation taking photos" is the important sentence there. They're specifically talking about people who aren't letting themselves be in the moment and won't have any memories of the vacation besides all the photo taking

[@Kattlarv]

"Thanks to my pyramid scheme, which I am a disposable employee of; I am able to work from home! - Mommy, can you play with me? - Shut up Suzie! Mommy is in her 3 times a day coaching session on zoom! - Mom, I'm hungry! - Zip it, I need to plan this party! - Mom, I'm late for school! - Can't you see that mommy is busy cold calling all our relatives?"

[@KaylieghHereford]

hahahaha I love this so much!

[@katmerriman3523]

The best part of Mondays is seeing a new video from Hannah. Hope you and the baby are doing well.

[@lmsmith015]

Agreed!

[@ApologeticsMom]

This. ❤ every Monday I look forward to the upload! 😄

[@partlycloudy7707]

So as an alumni of the U, sponsoring BYU vs U games hosted on the U's campus is probably really lucrative for doTERRA. We call them "Holy War" games. BYU and The U are our top schools in the state, and the rivalry between the schools is HUGE. Holy War games basically get the entire state involved and aware of the games, especially football. If you want to reach a giant audience in Utah, the sponsoring Holy War games is one of the best ways to do so.

[@fluffyduckbutt24]

Interesting that it is called a Holy War, reinforcing the Us vs. Them mentality most high demand groups (cults) have.

[@spaceseed83]

Yeah, it has little if nothing to do with the religious nature of the school. It's just the biggest audience you can easily get in Utah. Selectively sponsoring womens everything is shifty and targeted tho.

[@ginnysvec4809]

Could be two birds one stone

[@michaelaf6580]

@@spaceseed83 that is DEFINITELY intentional. Gotta connect with them before they graduate. 😢

[@janabomersbach4466]

I’ve heard names for other rivalries but this one is perfect.

[@Purplegoldfish]

If I had $2000 per month to spend on advertising... I wouldn't need to join an MLM 😂

[@isfpoisson]

"We made a core memory today--but more importantly, we made an ad for mommy's MLM🤗"

[@nitarose44]

Ewww! That mom that says she gets to know her child because she is in an MLM is nasty to me. What a disgusting way of mom shaming. I hate that some women will see that and feel bad. Spending focused one-on-one time with your kids is a struggle even for stay-at-home moms sometimes. I tear up thinking about how quickly time is flying with my kids. I can't imagine how a single mom who has to work full-time could feel watching that. Just ick to the extreme!

[@SjofnBM1989]

And the fact that her "quality time" with her kid she's busy shoving a camera in her face and trying to use it to promote her MLM so how much is she really "getting to know" her kid

[@honeylis7]

Yeah, it's a really weird flex to say that you can "Spend all your time with your child" because you work an MLM, then it appears that the "spending all your time with your child" consists of filming all of this "time" and uploading it for content for your MLM. No thanks, I'll take my desk job while my kids are at school, then actually being present with them when they get home.

[@morgansgametherapy]

When I was young, my parents both worked and were away from home 12 hours a day, since that's when their business was in the early stages and they needed to do everything hands-on. My mother was consistently late picking me up from kindergarten. When I was old enough to go to school, I was sent to a Monday-Friday boarding school because my parents didn't get home early enough to pick me up. I was home on weekends, but even then rarely saw my parents because they were always busy with their business. Despite this, my mother knew everything about me then and knows everything about me now, even though I'm a 27-year-old adult. She's still the first person I go to for advice or when I need someone to talk to, even though I have plenty of good friends my age. It annoys me that these people are trying to convince people that you need to quit working and spend all your time watching your kids (and join an MLM to do that, of course /sarcasm) to be a good mom or to know your kid. You don't.

[@lolalo6344]

Sounds like you have a great relationship with your mother! Good on her for finding a way to juggle two huge responsibilities!

[@toonytowny9469]

My mom started her own legitamate business when I was still in diapers and for 15 years was in the red/barely in the black with it. My dad had to compensate by working 10-12 hour days and then would come home and veg out. My mom traveled at least a week out of every month (gone day and night for over a week). But eventually, my mom started to make money and recently signed deals with UnitedHealthcare and Humana to work her services into insurance plans (reminiscence therapy). My dad now works for HER! I'll admit that there were times I maybe wasn't having every emotional need met but it was always obvious my parents loved me and it was incredibly inspiring to see my mom build her company up from nothing to what it is today. I feel like seeing my mom be a true business owner was more beneficial than if she'd stayed home with my brother and I.

[@KB-nr3ls]

​@@toonytowny9469 what an outstanding achievement for your mom! That is huge! It is clear that you are very proud of her and how things worked out for your whole family!

[@toonytowny9469]

@@KB-nr3ls Thank you! Yes, I am incredibly proud of my mom and all the sacrifices her and my dad made for the family. My mother grew up in a run-down trailer, worked herself through school, and was able to build something great and inspired. I dont believe anyone is "self made" as far as success goes, but I think my mom is as close as it gets. She was never the type of mom who pushed me or my brother to just make money and get well paying jobs. She was always very in favor of us pursuing creative ventures and working hard to make THOSE our careers. I wuv my mommy 💓 💗 💖 lol

[@shandeliervillanueva91]

I was done with younique because I didn't understand the comp plan and I never heard of mlms but when I realized mathematically it made no sense and 3 months in I hadn't made a single dime. And was 1500 dollars in debt in product purchases ( I was so stupid) I told my upline "hay I'm not selling anymore because I need to get an actual job I need actual money. She said "this is why you need this opportunity. You aren't working hard enough. You should be working everyday. " I was shocked and pissed and got rid of everything and cut ties. I have worked since I was 15. I had just had a baby the month before,was a stay at home mom with post partum depression and I wanted to contribute to my household because again I have been working since I was 15. This was the biggest mistake of my life but for her to say those things not only hurt but made no sense. What happened to pockets of time?

[@MaeDzurichko-gf2sh]

I'm a stay at home mom and I struggle to intentionally spend time with my kids. Even being home, there is so much work to do around the house.

[@deviantdude1]

Lolol. You know what’s an “income producing activity?” Listening to your advice, and not joining these companies!

[@extrastout1741]

There was recently an issue in the UK that some investment scammers paid to sponsor a Leeds football club. Due to this people were more likely to fall for it given that it seemed legit. There should be a responsibility to check where the money is coming from. We still have the sackler family name in museums and university wings.

[@CSRaeburn]

I only know my cats because I work from home... this allows them to understand that I know they're ignoring me.

[@KB-nr3ls]

😂😂😂

[@ElifDeSimone]

Lmao 😂

[@blissfulmountain]

I’m really saddened whenever I hear about someone putting MLM starter packages on a credit card. This just ruins your credit even more when you can’t pay your balance. So sad.

[@Nothereforgames]

I find one of the most concerning things about MLMs is how it seems very few people actually know what they are selling. That’s not good 😞

[@sharim]

Like too many things in America people don’t ask questions. They see something on TV or in their Facebook feed and they go “Well, it must be true. I read it on the internet or I heard it on TV. It’s yet another criticism of education in America. We’re not teaching our children to be critical thinkers.

[@sweet_creature7799]

Omg I'm so early. If you see this, Hannah, I hope your maternity leave is going smoothly, that your baby girl is healthy and that you're recovering well! I appreciate what you do💙

[@HSSG7]

Ugghh. A fruend tried to recruit me into Scamway years ago. I told him "no thanks". And said if he wants us to remain friends, we will both pretend he didn't try to recruit me & we never speak of it again He kept his word on that. Though about 5 years later, he tried to recruit me into an insurance MLM (can't remember which one). Told him no on that also.

[@ayajade6683]

Legal shield or PPLSI can't remember which is the current rebranded name. Same company just trying to hide they got sued

[@maryjordansiebert915]

I would imagine that the insurance MLM was American Income Life...at least that is the one that I am familiar with....because I fell for their garbage when I was desperate and thought it was a legit opportunity. I honestly thought that this was a lone insurance MLM, but I just Googled it and it looks like there are many to choose from. So, this may not have been the one. How sad that insurance companies are now something that I have to look out for. I feel so lucky that my full time job gives me life insurance (that I plan on taking with me if I ever leave)....so that I don't have to worry about vetting other companies.

[@margaretandandrewroth9229]

My 7yo - while I’m listening to this literally just said scornfully at 12:12 “MY mom doesn’t work at home and SHE knows who I am!!!”

[@carolsummers8734]

I think those who make those "how to make it in mlm companies" are worse scammers than the actual sellers.

[@AliciaMcIntire]

I live in Utah, and so many things are sponsored by MLMs. Doterra has supported BYU athletics for years, because a number of their VPs are alumni. They also support community theaters like Scera Center for the Arts, and Hale Center Theater (who they gave $5 million to move 5 miles north to the same city as their headquarters). Xango was a major supporter of the Museum of Natural History and Real Salt Lake (pro soccer team). Nu Skin is a major sponsor of Freedom Days, one of the largest 4th of July events in America. It's a huge thing here

[@michaelaf6580]

That’s really sad. It’s wild even imagining this as MLMs are completely separate from my life. I suppose this would legitimize the company

[@annwilliams6438]

So, they can give away millions BUT won’t give their own sales agents a living income opportunity… sad.

[@KinniMoo]

My mom was my everything she really was her own boss. She owned a store. She was a tax accountant and that kept her busy and she missed some of the things in my life but I always knew she was doing it for me and because she loved me as I grew up and I grew older. She was always my best friend. She was my heart, and this day I still miss her, even though she passed 15 years ago you can’t shame mom for trying to be the very best mom she can be, and just because she’s busy does not mean that she doesn’t love her child I could not have felt more loved if my mom had been with me every moment of the day

[@NyssaThomassen]

My parents own a small business (a computer store). They still did what they could to get to know us. I work as a teacher and I still do everything I can to get to know my son. His favorite things are large vehicles (work, construction, and rescue). His favorite color is blue. His favorite stuffy is a dragon named Desmond. He loves Bluey and Sesame Street. He'll eat anything, but his favorite dinner is chicken nuggets and broccoli with ranch dip. I know all of this in spite of a 9-5 job because getting to know my kids is important to me. I HATE that huns try to shame me for working outside of the home and for having my son in daycare. He gets so much love in his life! And if I were a stay-at-home parent, I would be a worse parent.

[@laurenmccook6632]

Your uploads consistently make for a great Monday lunch time for me, with my really early 10:50am lunch time (teaching elementary school sometimes means weird lunch times...)!

[@danacantu6714]

My former boss was eating hamburgers at 9 am 🫣

[@laurenmccook6632]

@@danacantu6714 when I student taught in kindergarten, our lunch time was at 10:45 a.m. My cooperating teacher and I kept joking to the kids, "Line up for brunch, kids!" The 5-year-olds didn't really understand what we were on about, but it was a funny joke for the two of us.

[@annabellj2215]

I hate this mom shaming. My mom worked almost full time my whole childhood and I have the most amazing bond with her. I don't think we would have this bond, if she worked from home and we spent so much time together. She really took the time she had to create amazing memories and I cherish those memories immensly. She got to have some time for herself when she worked which made her a better mom because she didn't use all of her energy to raise me and my brother. She is an amazing mom.

[@roguestowl2280]

I feel so sorry for anyone with five maxed out credit cards. It sounds awful to be under that much debt.

[@lauralarrabee7870]

Jesus. I’m struggle not to max out one let alone 5

[@Maurelin22]

Same! I owe like 20% of my credit card and I’m already extremely nervous, can’t imagine max it out and let alone max out 5!

[@PointsofData]

A small part of me can't feel too badly for them tbh. Maxing out one? OK you were in a tight spot. Two? A bad few months, a few bad financial decisions, whatever. _Five?_ Bish you didn't have a plan outside of opening more credit cards.

[@czarinakanaeva]

Oh thank god someone is finally talking about the Utes being sponsored by doTERRA. I noticed it last year watching a Red Rocks gym meet and saw they had a doTERRA sticker on their beam, so of course you got a lovely view of it every home meet. But before they were sponsored by doTERRA, they had Young Living ads on their perimeter boards around the arena, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

[@partlycloudy7707]

Welcome to Utah, we have MLMs everywhere. Don't forget about the Usana amphitheatre

[@MeganW_88]

I noticed that too. I follow their gymnastics team on IG.

[@thedealmama3070]

As someone who loved the color street product back when they were in stores as Incoco, I am not surprised by the last top fail. I have plenty of Incoco nail sets that are older and still work great, but the last few sets I bought from color street were so terrible, I tossed them. Its crazy how the mlm model ruins even companies that start out with a good quality product!

[@G-L-O-R-I-A]

Wow it's amazing I know my kids, who are now adults, even though I worked 40 hours a week. I wonder why they keep voluntarily hanging out with their dad and me, even though we don't "know" them. I never lived with any of my friends--guess I don't know them either. Sad.

[@WidgetBeaker]

Regarding the Monat "getting your money back" it's even worse than breaking even because you'll be 1099'd for that $450. Meaning that you might clear $225 after taxes are paid. So, you'd need to create your block twice in order to reach net zero!

[@jmeg7412]

Don’t try and confuse people with facts 😂

[@megmullins2368]

this is a really good point!!!

[@eli-se4zb]

"Got so many paychecks" yeah but whats the actual amount on those paychecks?? 2 bucks? $15??? Oh lol Hannah gets it 😂

[@SS-lu2rd]

I can make that as server w/o tips

[@francinejones2524]

I thought that exact thing! How much are the paychecks.

[@primroseplants]

Hope you and your expanding downline are happy and healthy! 💛👶🏼

[@soggytortillla]

Hahaha love this

[@jmeg7412]

@@soggytortillla I second this!!! That made me smile!! 😊

[@kilendil]

So many public things in Utah are sponsored by doTerra. Schools (primary, secondary, collegiate), arts, parks. There's even a semi-professional theater (Hale Center Theater) company building a giant new auditorium complex on DoTerra 's main campus. And it makes me sick. The cognitive dissonance "we support schools, public services, and the arts" while making false health claims and having an MLM structure that directly harms their most needy contracted employees....ugh

[@annwilliams6438]

Yeah, the only people they don’t seem to support is their independent business people sales reps!

[@sm91507]

People are so easy to manipulate. Also, everyone wants to be their own boss, so they fall for these awful companies. So sad and frustrating 😤

[@HSSG7]

Love when pro MLM ads appear on Anti MLM content. Lol!!! It literally is flushing their ad $$ down the toilet

[@bloomandpen]

I’m a single mom working full time and studying full time. My kids are in school/aftercare until 5 pm every day. I also have chronic depression. But I give them my all when they’re home with me and I REALLY resent mom shaming stuff like this that makes those of us who have to work feel bad for it.

[@craft_yplanning1012]

It's interesting how the one monet hun didn't mention if her sign up paid off her credit cards or not. Just that she took the "free trips"

[@lauralarrabee7870]

Hope she learned there’s no such thing as a “free lunch.”

[@Darbae7]

That mom shaming post rubbed me the wrong way. My boss and her husband both work on the same sales floor and they have two small kids. They’re the best parents you’d ever seen and always talk about their kids. Being a great parents comes in all shapes and forms and it’s not always about being home 24/7

[@katie4929]

I love your speech about mom sharing-I will tell you that my father was the original latch key kid: my grandparents both worked full time and he was an only child. However, my father was beyond close with his parents and vice versa. On the other hand, my mom was home with me and I’m grateful because I was a rebellious teen and would’ve been in hot water if she wasn’t there after school. It depends on the kid and parents a like-so frustrating when people judge others for their life choices. Thanks Hannah-hope you’re having a blast with Harper, AJ, Zeke and Cooper! 😍

[@m.teresa.r]

Having 5+ credit cards and all declining, doesn't show integrity or determination, shows that she will do anything (even being scummy) to make a profit. If she is actually making any profit now, I sure hope she has paid off those MAXED OUT credit cards. So disturbing. I would love to see this person's profits, we're finding more and more people are out right lying about their success.

[@JelloIntegral]

20:00 I nearly burst out laughing when you turned to the camera with that expression, because I was looking back at you with the EXACT same expression on my face 😂

[@boshowa0840]

In regards to the third fail. Not knowing the ingredients or at least how to find them for people asking (if it's not easily available to customers), can be a problem. Especially if your product is food/personal care (like skin care). People have allergies or certain eating requirements and they need to know if they will have a problem healthwise with the product. He's essentially claiming the health of the customer isn't priority, recruiting is. That's indeed a HUGE red flag.

[@boshowa0840]

Wouldn't claiming they are gifting product as part of their sponsorship to help improve performance be a kind of health claim since it's not proven to help improve performance? I know it's not exactly the same but it feels similar enough to be borderline illegal if not outright.

[@maurawilliams2808]

The NBA team, the Utah Jazz, have their dancers sponsored by Zyia and also the there are NuSkin sponsorships at the arena. Being an anti-mlm, not from from Utah, non-mormon, Jazz fan this drives me insane!!!

[@daphnegarzarelli-lawson324]

Being anti-mlm, non-mormon and a Utah native this drive ME insane!!!! It's all so subtle and very subliminal.

[@rtracy1216]

Same! Utah native, non-Mormon and anti mlm… I spot mlm sponsorships everywhere at places and events. Latest I saw was the tulip days at thanksgiving point, top sponsors are doterra and nuskin.

[@Sangeetha6785]

Hello! I’m also a non-Mormon, Utah native, and anti-MLM-er.

[@maurawilliams2808]

@@rtracy1216 I drove south on i-15 and I was shocked with how many mlm building and signs I saw. Yuck!!

[@rtracy1216]

@@maurawilliams2808 there truly are a shit ton. The saturation of mlm companies in this state is wild. There’s some good literature and content on how and why so many of them call Utah home.

[@kailm.5107]

Doing all that work to make $9,000/yr is so insane to me as someone who grew up with a mom who was a substitute teacher and also made between $8,000 and $12,000 per year, had the summers off, had the same schedule as us kids and could drive us to and from school.

[@yelmite_]

So glad that you made these in advance so I can get my Hannah fix!

[@jessicabillhardt8776]

I got recruited because my friend posted an "I'm hiring" post on Facebook. Looking back at the red flags, I feel so silly, but I trusted her.

[@BasilissaKleo]

Like Hannah always says, you did with what you knew at the time. It's normal to trust a friend, you always think they have your best interests in mind (and probably, your friend thought they were offering you a great opportunity). You're not silly, just human!

[@verminter]

Gotta admit, it's kinda refreshing to see the dude lay it out there so openly. No overtures of friendship; no promises that the product will change your life. Just - make the money and get out.

[@esteeborrello]

I was in Color Street, and as soon as it was announced that they were going to be adding makeup...and with me losing 3000 plus bucks my first year...the manipulation from people in the top of my upline who acted like they were wanting me to level up, but actually they were just wanting to keep their status...the amount of work I put in compared to what I made...the pile of unused nail strips that I bought because we just HAD to buy every new bundle or set collection that was released...among many other reasons...I said, "Nope! ✌️" I am NOT about to pitch new products that I may or may not like...Having to learn a whole new product line when I don't wear makeup very much...just...no...no, hun...no thanks! (This is one big run on sentence...lol...) Thank you for your content! I have been binge watching your vids for the last week...it's refreshing!

[@kristyyy569]

My coworker tried to sell me and everyone at our business Color Street. It felt so icky… I couldn’t run away fast enough.

[@TaylorX3]

"Fun" companies do the same thing when they offer unlimited pto. The reality is that though it is unlimited it is also unattainable.

[@d.awdreygore]

It's fascinating that the huns don't realise that THEY are the customers.

[@marymcdaniel3883]

Just had a morning walk and now we get to hear some MLM fails, today is shaping up to be a good one!

[@kennedystein4137]

I work for a big marketing company and we just took on Herbalife as a client. You made a good point that they don’t have a marketing budget and the reps really do all of the marketing for them, but how/why in the world would Herbalife pay for a marketing like this? They’ve actually been spotlighted at our company wide meetings and are supposed to be a really big deal. Like apparently they’re going to make us a lot of money so people are spending a ton of time on the account. I just don’t understand and it feels icky to me.

[@Kreepie11]

Sounds like people telling themselves things that make them feel better. Are the rates not set? Seems like they'd make just as much money as any other company of around the same size. Maybe I'm just ignorant of marketing contracts, but...

[@pinkskiestoday]

Hope you're having a beautiful time off with the family. 💜

[@cathy2418]

Damnn…. They really out here preying on college students.. one again, AND their mothers 😡

[@DancewithSara]

As someone who works in marketing, I will say that doTERRA knows their target market. 😂🤦🏼‍♀️

[@jesusfreakof2000]

Yay!! I've loved my Mondays because of these! Enjoy those baby smells and can't wait to see those adorable baby photos!

[@marialegare3954]

45:50 I love that this lady was actually keeping track of her hours and realized that that in her words "my hourly rate sucked." It would be so great if more huns did that. Is it really so great to be getting a paycheck every 2 weeks, even if it's an amount that makes a difference in your life, if the amount of time you're putting in to get that paycheck is ridiculous? Get a part-time fast food job or something.

[@johndoe-lm7ji]

It really bothers me when they use their kids! Just because people work, doesn’t mean we don’t have time for our children!

[@sinandtonic2029]

I use to be a colorstreet stylist. I quit maybe two years ago because they kept getting rid of all the neutral and deep colors in favor of bright colors and loud prints. Nobody around here was buying anymore and the solids always chipped even back then.

[@yolandaponkers1581]

WOW. They really said it out loud that their target demographic is the poor and desperate mother.

[@SusiePierce-xs9ki]

Hi Hannah. I just wanted to say when you successfully shut down all the mlms, you should switch your content to reading bedtime stories. Your voice is so soothing. Whenever I have insomnia I turn one of your videos on and it soothes me right to sleep.

[@MissMarck]

Ha ha I also put on her videos when I'm going to sleep 😂 I love the content and learn a lot, but Hannah's voice is incredibly relaxing too!

[@j.s.2130]

Same here in my bed listening to Hannah

[@rebeccalock4900]

Who would love Hannah to do a Deep dive on the connection between mlm and Mormons xx

[@jamiepavs]

I don’t know about the US - but in Australia they’re not allowed to use language like “hiring” or “job interview” and have to say “recruiting” etc

[@heresieirisee]

Top fail 2... tbh the fact that she immediately dismissed her kid's wishes when it comes to her own hair and needed to "get to know her" to listen is kind of yikes.

[@LostStarzOfTheSky]

It was a weird way to claim it, cause I can understand not giving your 3 year old a specific haircut on the whim but it's like...I got to know their personality????

[@ayajade6683]

I can see holding off a bit on a hair cut as kids whim change fast but this is just gross

[@HSSG7]

Without reading into it, my guess for the high concentration of MLM within the LDS church is because of the amount of SAHM's. The women in that church would stay home to raise the children. In fact I believe they say that a LDS woman's lot in life is to get married, have babies & take care of the home So they probably see MLM's as a perfect way to bring in extra income while still staying at home

[@carolsummers8734]

It seems like a lucrative recruiting market to hit Mormon women.

[@ayajade6683]

It's because they're already in a cult and don't take much convincing to join a second cult

[@reidleblanc3140]

that and how mormonism encourages people to not think logically or think for themselves on anything and always stay subservient to your superiors

[@reidleblanc3140]

@@ayajade6683 you get it lol

[@MashaRistova]

@@ayajade6683BINGO!! They’re already susceptible to being brainwashed lol

[@Lailer10]

Always so great to see your videos! I hope you and your husband are adjusting well to parenthood! Hoping your little one is healthy and thriving ❤

[@jillybeann41]

I’m sorry- he can guarantee me 3-5 sign ups a day with his method, but his example of success is getting 13 people over the course of 12 days? Sounds about right!

[@debbiebajomo5709]

I have to tell my sister about the doTERRA sponsorship. She goes to the University of Utah school of medicine and has come across a good amount of MLMs in Salt Lake City

[@Sangeetha6785]

The U of U has an excellent medical school! Congrats to your sister.

[@ayajade6683]

She should have gone out of state for school seriously

[@samanthakavanagh7034]

This is so annoying lol my local scentsy girl posts her income ALL the time trying to recruit new people..... but it's so misleading. She was the first one in our area and the entire 300000 people in our city's orders are under her, every rep in our area is under her whether directly or indirectly ...of course she makes 30k a month 🤦‍♀️

[@rtracy1216]

Doterra sponsors all KINDS of things in Utah, as well as several other of the many many mlm companies in this state. It drives me nuts to get excited about an event and then see the sponsor list loaded down with various mlms .

[@labachaterairlandesa]

We went to Disney World last month, and I felt the same way about one of the gardens at the Epcot Flower Show that was sponsored by Scentsy. I wasn’t really surprised that Disney was willing to accept money from an MLM, but I wished they were better than that.

[@rileysalt4871]

5 a day is such an insane claim to make. when i was door knocking we were taught the “law of average” was 1/160. you’d have to knock 160 doors AND return to the doors that didn’t answer later that day just to hopefully end up with one single sign up.

[@Therealsitacha]

Something I’ve noticed is guys in MLM’s are always straight up and basically admit it’s a pyramid scheme, when girls in them always skate around the term pyramid scheme with their company

[@nataliekubus1041]

A majority of the founders/CEOs of MLMs are men.

[@roxxy_rocket]

Love you so much Hannah! Marketing is so expensive, so they’re more likely to get an ROI from the women’s sports and the UTAHvsUTAH is more likely to give an ROI than the other games. You’re right that all the other games aren’t really their target market. ☺️

[@emmatibbitts424]

I just wanted to thank you as a member of the LDS church for being so respectful and using the correct terminology. There is so much judgment in the world about these communities especially since there is so much overlap between the religion and the MLM's. I have a friend whose uncle was a rep for Doterra, and that loyalty has also dripped down to my friend and his family. My friend has had issues with recognizing mental health issues and can sometimes be very ableist. He has never been really pushy about me using the products but it's experiences like those who can bring a bad name to all members of the LDS church.

[@carolsummers8734]

Cults just are not good for anyone.

[@ayajade6683]

Cults don't deserve respect of rebranding to try to move away from their shady past. You're a Mormon Im not going to call you your rebranded term your cult made to hide the rampant issues including child marriages and sexual abuse.

[@MashaRistova]

You’re in a cult mate

[@tamalaursa]

Herbalife is sponsoring a major handball team where I live. A couple of huns that I follow promote this fact so much and they are trying to say that is why Herbalife is a legit business.

[@mytireisflat6311]

I have been waiting for this all day! Finally looking forward to mondays 🤣

[@kristleking6632]

the MLM "tips and tricks" video should have been named "How to scam and get the most money from an MLM" haha

[@soybeanokra]

Yes, I just had a friend (27) join Amway. She just got married. She is a ditz (I love her but it’s true) and she has no common sense, and she and her husband joined as a couple. They’re very religious and involved with their church, and I’m positive that’s how they joined. No way a fellow church friend could have conned them into a scam! She’s known me since I was born, and now I can’t stand being around her. She recently said her “business is literally exploding.” Um ew? And, oh no! Idk man

[@AlexOvTheAbyss]

Shouldn't tell them they'll run out of humans - they might start trying to sign up animals 😬

[@extrastout1741]

Omg but as wild as they are....

[@fantasymagic97]

My thought was aliens must be next. 😆

[@annwilliams6438]

Nah! They will just make some more humans…

[@drew8235]

The fact that these people in MLMs, cults, religions, etc, all seem to have kids, whom they will most likely try to teach to perpetuate this nonsense, is genuinely terrifying.

[@jeaninekivimaki5593]

I think you are right when it comes to the “Budget issue” Women’s Gymnastics, specifically for the teams Utah competes with and their woman’s gymnastics team in general, cannot be cheap when it comes to advertising. HUGE sport. The Mykayla thing makes SO MUCH more sense now, being a previous Utah gymnast. I’m just mad I didn’t catch this and send it to you, because I watch all their meets lol

[@ImaginaryMdA]

That dude really ran through a list of exactly why MLMs are a scam.

[@Horsel335]

That table showing the recruitment numbers with everyone signing up 5 people per day is very telling. Also how many times can you and your recruitments sell crap to their friends and family without people getting sick of them asking you to buy

[@WritingAlchemist]

I love the inclusion of the Facebook thread about why people are leaving an MLM. It makes me feel like this community isn't just screaming into the void :) I wish them all luck in a more legitimate business.

[@daryn9203]

As a lifelong Utahn and longtime fan of your channel, this video was exactly the crossover I wanted! The similarities between members of MLMs and the LDS faith are alarming, and nearly every LDS woman I know is currently in an MLM or was in the past. Obviously both are cult-like, but I think it might be a bit deeper of a problem: women in the LDS church are so cut off from outside community, and often so lonely and desperate for connection, that the promise of a group of women always supporting them and having built-in friendships is extremely alluring and an easy way to prey on them. And I've seen the way an MLM can take over a neighborhood - in my family alone, my mom, 3 aunts, several cousins, and nearly all of their friends have joined Optavia in the last few months, and it is excruciating to watch. Anyway, all this to say that I appreciate your content as always, and I find it really healing to hear your perspective on everything!

[@aliciarowland3322]

If Leah had lost that money instead of making a profit, that same up line would just say “she didn’t work hard enough” and wouldn’t care that she lost money she didn’t have

[@shelfofmanygenres]

I'm in Utah, and I would say the BYU/UTAH sponsorship is less about Mormon audiences and more about BYU is their rival and has one of the highest Utah watcher ship of any sporting event.

[@partlycloudy7707]

Holy War games are huge events in Utah. Frankly I can see why doTERRA went for only these games.

[@cloudstalker8956]

@@partlycloudy7707 are they literally called that? Holy war?

[@Katharine888]

​@@cloudstalker8956 Yes. There's a lot of religious humor here.

[@Katharine888]

That's how it feels to me. If they wanted to target LDS specifically, then they weren't very successful. I didn't even know MLMs sponsored anything in Utah and haven't been approached by an MLM hun in years. I think MLMs are appealing to specific subsets of the LDS community.

[@samanthamagnarelli1122]

I'm a big Utah Utes Gymnastics and MyKayla Skinner fan, and every home meet they have, doTERRA is on the beam every time! Fascinating. MyKayla is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well. Thank you for covering this! Hope you and your family are doing well! :)

[@grachisol8236]

Also important to note BYU and the Utes are huge rivals.

[@eeveev6320]

I hate the SHE HAS EARNED SO MANY PAYCHECKS! thing. and how much are they for? 5 cents? They love saying paycheck because people will likely imagine a decent sum, but it's literally saying nothing. that means nothing.

[@timriehl1500]

I wonder if MLM bro realizes how scammy Craigslist is; ANY vendor post on Craigslist is, to me, a big red flag.

[@ayajade6683]

It's like the Facebook marketplace sellers who go I want cash app or PayPal when it's against TOS and lacks the buyer protection if the scam you. you're a red flag walking why would I buy from you

[@skypaver989]

Thank you for spreading awareness! I hope you and your baby and cats are doing well!

[@T.Ty7]

Hot take: I can somewhat respect (I use the word loosely) the guy who is laying bare how to “realistically” make money in an MLM by joining early on new schemes. It’s still a dishonest way to make money but at least he isn’t lying *to you.* (He’s just telling you to lie to other people, which is how the 1% make money in MLMs)