MLM TOP FAILS #60 | When are these Monat experiments going to end??

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[@HannahAlonzo]

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[@MusicalK93]

So wish they shipped to the UK!

[@tarajh]

Hannah! Did you see that Mickey Atkins mentioned you (and included a clip) in her recent video about the "Psychology of MLMs?" I squealed! 😅

[@sauromayne]

You are amazing, thanks for making these

[@KinniMoo]

I am sure you are loving being a mommy right now 💖. Enjoy every moment with you little angle 💖💖💖💖

[@MusicalK93]

@@KinniMoo She posted 9 hours ago that she's been in labour for 25 hours now and it's going very slowly! Also, I assume you meant angel and not angle, hehe. Hopefully Mamma and baby are doing well. 🥰

[@raychul33]

Do. Not. Mix. Your. MLM. With. Your. MORTGAGE. PAYMENT!! What am I even hearing, this is sooooo bad!

[@AelleIti]

I concur. If you're going to lose your home don't let it be because the MLM crashed and burned.

[@catz7679]

Agreed! One more thing to keep them in longer.

[@pineapplepapercrafts]

Right I was jaw on the floor when she said that. Like ma'am that is not smart in any way whatsoever 😅

[@Myschoolprojects1996]

Her saying “this company pays my two highest bills” yeah so does my company…cause I earn a salary 😂

[@LisaHarvey16]

My company pays all of my bills it's called a job. Not an idiotic MLM.

[@Senjamin]

LITERALLY LMFAO and I get a standard salary *and* insurance *and* pto *and* if I get sick I'll have some sort of protection

[@stephaniethesoprano]

@@Senjamin no, no, no you don't understand!!! if I get sick I can still work from my phone, I don't even need pto!!!!!! you're being brainwashed by corporate culture!!!! /s (like do these huns not even understand what pto is???)

[@sarahwatts817]

Exactly! I’m always wondering why they can’t just pay you cash. So bizarre.

[@kay_del]

The Monat girl who said that anyone who gives up on an MLM is lazy TRIGGERED me. I was diagnosed with ADHD at 28 - right in the middle of my time as a Beachbody hun. My coach kept telling me that I wasn’t successful because I wasn’t working hard enough and giving my all. Meanwhile, I was dealing with executive dysfunction, exhaustion from masking all day every day, and a constant state of burnout just from being a person. I still struggle with feeling like I’m lazy when in reality, I’m learning how to work with my brain and not against it - no thanks to the toxic hustle culture of MLMs.

[@unkemptsnugglepepper]

I also have executive dysfunction (different diagnosis) and I think we work twice as hard because of it.

[@Katjj]

As a woman with ADHD myself, i'd like to say; thank you for sharing and you are NOT lazy. You should be proud of yourself for giving your best while having such a complicated and exhausting diagnose 🌸. I wish you all the best and my kind regards from the Netherlands ⚘️.

[@yvonned627]

I am so sorry you had that awful experience. You did not deserve that. I have ADHD and as mentioned by others we have to work really hard. Just consider the source. Your up line person is ignorant and brainwashed. You’re wonderful!

[@maeveokay]

I’ve been recently diagnosed with ADHD 22 (I’m afab, non binary) and omg I can’t imagine how stressful being in an mlm would be. I could barely hold it together through 5 years of my undergraduate degree… which is structured and probably even less stressful than trying to make it in an mlm. Feeling like everyone else can do it and I can’t would be so amplified in an environment like that, where everyone else is actually trying to seem like they ARE doing it… like I don’t need others to gaslight me when I’m already gaslighting myself 🥲

[@katiempojer]

I did an MLM for fun with one of my friends, we knew we would not make money. It was Acti Labs, it was actually a really great product. But the copy paste stuff they wanted us to spam our friends and family with was insane. She and I decided to be just personal use. I stopped it after a year. I actually did pretty decent with making money why because I was my biggest customer.

[@Avrilandosanders]

"A lot of people join this business because they think it will be easy" Gosh, I wonder where they would get that idea from?

[@tonichan89]

That's what I keep saying to the screen when they spew this nonsense! 😖

[@LisaHarvey16]

People in the opportunity who have no respect for others!!

[@MashaRistova]

Sooo much this!!! MLM Huns CONSTANTLY contradict themselves and are the biggest hypocrites in the world. And why do they ALL. TALK. THE. SAME.

[@XLindsLuvsPinkX]

Seriously… 🙄

[@theillytellez3761]

Being coachable sounds to me like "easy to brainwash"

[@Mama_Bear524]

Yes!

[@LisaHarvey16]

Exactly!!

[@rizzwifey05]

That Optavia lady...omg. The way she keeps smacking her lips and loudly sniffing between words LMAO omg.... Just too much.

[@Cerezo.lindsey]

Yeah I have to skip her... I can't stand the lip smacking

[@B.H.56]

Can you imagine the conversations with the downline? "What do you mean, you're quitting? WHAT ABOUT MY CAAAARRR?!"

[@marycramer2650]

I am going to foreclose on my home!!!

[@debymello4756]

No, you're not reling on emotinal blackmail enough. "I need you here to keep the car I use to work and take my kids to their extracurricular programs. You want us to lose those things? You don't care I won't even afford the programs if I can't drive to do my work?"

[@lpronovost84]

Exactly

[@Mama_Bear524]

Yup! And this is why these uplines are so yelly!! Always screaming at their down lines. They 💯 rely on them for everything

[@francinejones2524]

LOL!!! 😂

[@TiffanyG8675309]

That one lady smacking her lips is about to make me throw my phone. Where's when I need him? 😂

[@orchid4590]

I was hoping to see a comment about this! I couldn't focus on anything she was saying because I kept hearing her smacking.

[@hollylake6893]

I went straight to the comments to find someone else bringing this up lol. Every two seconds …take a nasal-y breath, smack lips, talk like a valley girl about a pyramid scheme. 🤯

[@Cazzdevil]

Oh my WORD - in Top Fail 4? Why is she even making that noise?!?! It was so incredibly offputting.

[@SophieNoNotThatOne]

Like-minded people, I'm a year late to the party, but OMG, wtf! How does anyone even listen to her? They probably just buy or join whatever she's talking about just to get her to stop talking! Like, does she not listen to the play back? Why would anyone do that with their mouth when talking? I hate it so much!!!!!!

[@NikkiRN-CLC]

​@@SophieNoNotThatOneomg that's hilarious 😂 I didn't hear a word she said because of that breath, teeth sucking thing

[@ariellenathanson1640]

The CEO was on stage for an hour and a half and you don't have all the details?! Wtf did they talk about

[@carolsummers8734]

Yes. I would have zoned out.

[@lauriechan1426]

Probably just dumb buzz words and 'live, love, laugh' phrases

[@Mama_Bear524]

@@carolsummers8734 I always zone out with them. I don’t know how everyone doesn’t.

[@ashleypierce1631]

They were probably sharing their entire life's story

[@baby.yogurt]

that's what I was thinking. like they must have been rambling a lot and wasting all those peoples' time! imagine talking about something for 90 whole minutes and not even really saying anything of substance

[@jessicabrittany1682]

The idea of a mortgage bonus is some next level mind control shit. All bonuses can be considered a mortgage bonus if you use it to pay your mortgage. You don't have to wait for your company to tell you to spend it on that. Wild.

[@hubabaloop]

I was thinking the same thing. Like my salary pays my mortgage…? It’s just how pay works? Spent on living expenses 😭

[@kristinaerickson2353]

The only time something like that makes sense is when a company buys you a car for work or a phone. Like those things aren't taxed as income but they lower your expenses. But, since MLMs 1099 employees they don't even get the benefits of not paying taxes on their "work vehicle".

[@theloverlyladylo9158]

Qtips normally catch on fire, so I’m way more concerned about what bizarre flame-retardants are in their oil.

[@beckys2825]

Exactly!

[@stephaniethesoprano]

this is what I'm saying! I don't know much about oil, but typically it burns... so unless this "oil" has that high of a smoke point I'm not sure it's actually any type of oil lol

[@Saphia_]

Right? You're putting oil on cotton and wood/plastic and putting fire near it. I'm more concerned when that mixture doesn't catch on fire.

[@tempestholmes]

I am a librarian and last night a patron came in with her daughter looking for books on specific topics for her daughter, not unusual, and could I point her to the sections where she could find all the books on birds, or cats, or seahorses, etc. Of course I could. I took her to the children's nonfiction and showed her the sections, pulled out some highly relevant titles and mentioned we could also search for fiction relating to the subjects and order books from other libraries. This is all very typical of my interactions with patrons, but then she says hmmm, in a dissatisfied sort of way; "Do you have any Usbourne books? They have whole series on topics that my daughter loves, you could fill shelves with them. They are really great." Cue internal screaming. I smiled at her and said: "I'm the YA librarian not the children's librarian but I know we don't carry Usbourne books because they are a multilevel marketing company and we don't purchase items from those companies. We get a better deal from our own sources." She stayed for a while as her daughter was busy playing with our dollhouse but she didn't check out a single book. I am pretty certain she came in just to try to sell her MLM products to our children's librarian.

[@TheSamDee]

OMG!! WHAT?!?! These huns are relentless!

[@labachaterairlandesa]

That was a good answer. Either you’ve faced that question before, or you’re good at thinking on your feet. And shame on her for trying to make a buck off a library’s precious financial resources and using her daughter. Not the first time for the latter, I’m sure, and probably not the last.

[@tempestholmes]

@@labachaterairlandesa I hadn't gotten that question before so thank you very much for the compliment. I'm not sure if it was quick thinking but I know we don't order our books from MLMs! Can you imagine? Of all places, libraries would likely be the last to carry such books, unless maybe someone donated a bunch of them. Even then, I reject donations all the time particularly non-fiction of questionable worth. The last thing I'd want to steer my young patrons toward would be poorly vetted information.

[@MisplacedTexan]

The way they say something is a “mortgage bonus” or a “car bonus” cracks me up. It doesn’t pay your mortgage. It doesn’t pay your car note. It’s not enough money for either. It goes TOWARD your bill. It’s just extra money that doesn’t even cover what you’re spending on being in the scheme. 😂 But them saying it’s a MoRtGaGe bOnUs is so silly. They might as well call it a “velociraptor bonus.” It has that much logical meaning. 🤣

[@swiftienifty8160]

Ooh, sign me up for the velociraptor bonus! 😆

[@MindiB]

LOL! See, now if they offered a Dino Discount or Reptile Reward I WOULD sign up!

[@swiftienifty8160]

​@@MindiB Ah, yes, velociraptors are too dangerous. A friendly herbivore would be better 😂

[@MisplacedTexan]

@@swiftienifty8160 - In my fictional scenario, I am a benevolent leader… so you can pick an herbivore, a carnivore, an omnivore, and there are no color restrictions! 😂

[@MindiB]

Lizard Loan, Brachiosaurus Bonus-the jokes just write themselves. :/

[@tradingfriends]

How do they claim it gives you more time with your family with a straight face while there is always a child in the background doing the loudest things that's being ignored?

[@Mochaandmissb]

You stated exactly what I was thinking 😅

[@TaylorX3]

Isn't a mortgage normally 10 to 30 YEARS? Can you continue recruiting( I mean selling) for that long? Can you keep rank for that long? The docu-series is writing itself (Episode 3: Foreclosure Bonus)

[@reidleblanc3140]

yep. but these hunbots are so delusional. I can't remember what video or who posted it but I recently watched some team zoom where the speaker was saying she planned to make this one company her full life career. like 30-40 years. it's insane.

[@Erika-xm2mi]

Looking at it completely objectively, if they were to give their hunbots some incentive masked as a "mortage bonus" for hitting a certain rank, I'd be like, whatever, it's yet another gimmick to convince people to buy and recruit more to hit that rank. But if they require people to buy a *new* house, like they require to buy a new car for the car bonus, boy, it's gonna be a shit show. Even so, I already expect a lot of hunbots, especially those who rent, will dive in head first to buy the house of their dreams that they can't afford, only because they think Le-vel is going to have them covered. It's LuLaRich all over again

[@drexyspivey]

I said about the same thing. It’s maddening.

[@kbird6208]

And if they need to join an MLM for money, they probably need a 30 year mortgage.

[@erinfindsen4953]

The title is “Lev-eld: how I enslaved myself to an MLM”

[@shilowyatt3859]

I LOVE when these reps completely call themselves out. The Monat rep in the second clip is a hairstylist and literally said she had horrible hair.... It's like they aren't even trying anymore.

[@LisaHarvey16]

They make antimlmers jobs so easy!

[@ThatPersonK]

It was because a non monat hairstylist was doing her hair 😂😂

[@Raraking4796]

DUDE I literally said this exactly…:I’ve NEVER met a hairstylist with horrible hair lol 😂 😂

[@marykatetrausch7684]

And wouldn’t it be almost the same cost as the joining costs of the mlm to just have a home hairstyle setup? I got my hair cut in the basement of a family friend until I was like 13 and the scheduling got too complex between her family’s schedule and ours. But my grandma kept going for like another ten years! People she had known forever would get scheduled for times when her kids were home and we’d just play with them until it was our turn. Way easier for my mom than wrangling three little girls in a regular salon!

[@emilyEXECUTIONER]

I’d be concerned if my hair oil isn’t flammable. Oil is flammable, if theirs isn’t catching on fire, doesn’t that just imply it’s not even a proper oil?

[@BunniBeshara]

A mortgage bonus seems kind of precarious to me. I feel like it could encourage people to live beyond their means, thinking they’ll get the bonus. What happens when things don’t go as planned??

[@debymello4756]

If the car bonus is anything to go by, they have to foot the bill, and if theyy can't they're at the banks' mercy

[@djs2182]

Exactly, plus the fact that they’re aiming the mortgage payment to be at least 3k, if you get behind even one month it sounds hard to catch up

[@Mama_Bear524]

They definitely will live beyond their means. This will crash and burn. Mark my words

[@LisaHarvey16]

That is a disaster waiting to happen.

[@leeprice133]

Not sure that they care about this since their business is apparently predicated on encouraging their 'distributors' to live beyond their means.

[@jessicapoemape3067]

I also get a mortgage bonus from my job. It’s called my paycheck 😂

[@kristleking6632]

as a former hair stylist, seeing Professionals going to Monat makes me sick.

[@carolsummers8734]

Yes. Why use a product being sued for damaging people's hair.

[@Dreaming5]

She said when she started Monat, her hair was in poor condition. Uhh what? She’s a hair stylist… surely she knew how to have good hair condition BEFORE Monat?! Or am I being naive here?

[@zachary6706]

Hairdresser here…moroccan oil is the best

[@kristleking6632]

@Dreaming she should have! If she didn't, then she is LYING about being a hair stylist. Do stylist have bad hair? Sure, the amount of things I use to do to my poor hair (and KNEW i was damaging it), but your TAUGHT in beauty school how to keep hair healthy.

[@kristleking6632]

@@zachary6706 for sure! I discovered Moroccan oil in my first salon after college way back in 2007. I still use it til this day. Its the best!

[@JCLFJanet]

Since the MLMs make you buy a luxury car to get the car bonus, will you have to buy a McMansion to get the mortgage bonus? 🥴😆

[@hubabaloop]

Right😭

[@purrmanum]

i came here to say this but knew in my heart it had already been said😂

[@kbird6208]

Maybe they can just give you a green screen background so that you can pretend

[@allisonpl]

What you said about people being in to deep to leave was exactly what Roberta Blevins was talking about on her "Life After MLM" podcast yesterday. She made an analogy about leaving a MLM to leaving a bad marriage. Sometimes it's not easy to leave... sometimes you can't just wake up one day and say "oh I'm in a bad marriage. I'm going to leave." Then pack a bag and walk out the door. It takes planning and time to "get out". Anyway I thought it was interesting that you brought it up. It's like you were on the same wavelength as Roberta.❤

[@yolandaponkers1581]

Even outside of MLMs, we really do live in a time that actively pressures people into living beyond their means. My aunt and uncle, making a low six figure income combined, got a 1.4 million dollar home. I still don’t know how they got approved, but they did, and they lived there for a year before being forced to get out.

[@LisaHarvey16]

That is so sad.

[@MrRangerLab]

The “car bonus” is not a bonus, it’s what we used to call golden handcuffs. You’re shackled to the “bonus” provider. Mortgage bonus would be even worse.

[@AshaGlenn]

Hun Translation... Be coachable = do what I say without question Work hard = never take a break Never give up = stay with this company no matter what your conscience says

[@noreenelizabeth6617]

That mortgage bonus sounds scary... the car bonus is already problematic... but imagine being on the line for a HOUSE and relying on your MLM bonus for a house payment? It's not the same as relying on a job for your house. In a job you are paid for the work you do, hourly or salary. The "bonus" is not a performance bonus it is a RESULTS bonus. It would only push reps to become even more predatory and manipulative and abusive to their potentials and downlines.

[@Mama_Bear524]

This!!!

[@smooth_pursuit]

Yeah imagine being on the end of a sales pitch where the person’s house is on the line! 🏃‍♀️

[@LisaHarvey16]

It's a sad reality for MLMs. Your family could lose everything if you don't maintain rank. Yuck.

[@mirandathune9975]

Bless you for pre recording while you're on maternity leave because I NEEEEED your vids to make it through my work week!!!

[@erinesque1889]

That one woman who smacked her lips after every single sentence almost drove me insane! I’d have had to have turned that off!

[@michellethaxton7786]

YES. SO MUCH YES. Good grief.

[@G-L-O-R-I-A]

Don't forget another caveat is the car bonus is paid with dollars that have not been taxed yet. That monthly $800 shows up as taxable income on your 1099 at the end of the year. When most of us make our mortgage/car payments it's with income that's already had taxes deducted.

[@MusicalK93]

Thank you for saving me from writing my dissertation for another 46 minutes, haha

[@yelmite_]

Hannah videos make my day 400% better.

[@Katjj]

Mine 2!!!

[@alliematt1016]

Especially when Zeke and Cooper show up! 😀

[@carolsummers8734]

It's a Great Day with Hannah.

[@lisakendall9373]

Any chore I do NOT want to do, waits for a Hannah video to make it tolerable!! ❤

[@fuchsialocks592]

As a hairstylist for over 15 years now, i can understand where she was when she felt stuck, she needed change, etc. We stylists are often hitting the brick wall of burnout. But MLM isn't the answer. Moving to a new salon, starting a suite salon (which i did last month after hitting a point of no return with coworker drama), taking classes of the new trends and product, going to hair shows. There are ways out of burnout, with plenty of rest and seeking out inspiration. I wish she had chosen differently. Also, if you're concerned about the oil in your hair catching fire, maybe it's time to TURN DOWN THE HEAT ON YOUR FLAT IRON!

[@tonichan89]

I don't use any heat tools cus they don't work on my hair at all. 😅 The only one that had an effect was my mums old metal curling iron from the 70s!! I burned my hand on it and it took over a year before the mark was completely gone. I was pretty terrified my hair would be ruined so I never used it again. But it does make it tempting to try and turn up the heat on a normal one. (I won't though.)

[@LisaHarvey16]

An MLM is totally never the answer.

[@charliewright6273]

So much this. Sometimes, you gotta change up your specialty too. When you feel burnt out, you need to change what you're doing of course. But not going to an MLM. Especially if you have a cosmetology license, you can do so so many jobs with that. Try changing your niche, or having a niche if you don't. But don't go switch to an mlm

[@labachaterairlandesa]

Good luck to you with your new actual business. 😊

[@deannaratz9702]

The mortgage bonus is absolutely horrifying!! I can't imagine having your housing security connected to your MLM!

[@LisaHarvey16]

It's disgusting. Imagine losing your home if you can't maintain rank. That is sick.

[@helenr4300]

The Optivia rep saying saves money, clearly she doesn't understand budgets. It feels like she brought less at the grocery since skipping several meals and therefore 'hey I am saving money' totally ignoring what she is spending on product

[@anij80]

I could never work where my paycheck it's dependant on a downline !! To much anxiety just knowing that they can quit and there goes my paycheck!!

[@Mama_Bear524]

How do they not see how this is problematic? I don’t get it

[@anij80]

@@Mama_Bear524 exactly!!!!

[@LisaHarvey16]

That would be so scary.

[@anij80]

@@LisaHarvey16 you would not have peace of mind!! No thanks!!

[@neonloneliness1]

omg when the optavia lady said "if you want to save money and lose some weight" i immediately thought "yeah just buy less groceries and starve" (which is what a lot of people are unfortunately forced to do actually??) mlms really just depend on people not knowing basic math huh

[@susan4912]

I am so glad my mom stopped selling Thrive BEFORE the mortgage bonus! It's not clear what that means but oh my god that's so scary.

[@LisaHarvey16]

Extremely scary.

[@lpronovost84]

I remember while watching the Watts documentary. My heart stopped when I saw the amount of thrive and level products in Shanann's basement. I hadn't known she was in a mlm. She had the black car and all the trips. She was working so hard and she was a very likeble person. I'm sure your videos help people get out or better yet never get in a mlm.

[@Mama_Bear524]

Ya it was really sad. Obviously for the murder reasons but knowing she got suckered into this too. She wasn’t going to be able to sustain it. If she couldn’t nobody can because she definitely was personable.

[@Lee-qf9dz]

I did not know she was in Le-Vel but I knew immediately she was in an MLM when she was on her business trip and she posted constantly on social media. On the bright side, at least her loved ones have lots of videos of her and the girls to look back on :(

[@AshaGlenn]

Who knew that the urge to resist sending spam messages to people all day was equivalent to being lazy.

[@biancacarlson8926]

I’m honestly really glad to know that in the off chance I end up trapped in a fire, that if I use rejuvenique oil that I might not survive, but my hair will be unscathed. SOLD!

[@tonichan89]

You will make it so much easier for forensics to identify your body. No other corpse could have such amaaazing *preserved hair! (*may or may not still actually be attached to your scalp, please read application instructions very carefully or you will be responsible for any potential hairloss that **will definitely not happen) (**if it does happen, continue to use the product regardless or you are doing it wrong, sweaty)

[@mattiekitty]

I have been using the Moroccan oil since I saw you mention it in an earlier video and it is has made me love my hair again. Also my hair has not caught on fire since I started 🤣

[@businessacc179]

😂😂😂

[@JA-rh6wq]

The lip smacking of the Optavia rep made my skin CRAWL. OMG please stop.

[@BalletomaneM]

Hurry up y'all, the Monat girlies are lighting things on fire again!!!

[@catboymikey]

Oh jeez xD

[@kellyspryszak80]

Offering a mortgage "program" is LAUGHABLE in the current market we're in. Most Americans can't get a conventional loan without having a good to excellent credit score. By that info alone, I bet majority of people in this MLM won't even be able to get pre-approved for a home loan. I guess that's a good thing, though. Saves them from falling into a HUGE pit of debt.

[@businessacc179]

Came to mention this- no lender will consider a mortgage bonus as legit income when an applicant is evaluated for a mortgage!

[@angella9954]

OMG that lady talking about the cost of food, hearing her talk was like nails on a chalk board and the treated smacking her mouth made me, shoot me now.

[@anasaldana2028]

The catching fire experiments are demonstrating that there’s alcohol in some products. Alcohol in products IS NOT BAD. Some alcohols aren’t good to apply to hair in skin outside of a medical need but some types of alcohols in products actually help the products absorption and stability.

[@DoinItForJohnny]

This, or I mean, the catching fire experiments are showing that there is OIL in these products. Oil is flammable. That's why they like, used to have oil lamps. Are they telling telling us there is no oil in their oil????

[@mathsalot8099]

Even if alcohol were inatelybad, the problem with the burning experiment is that alcohol is not the only thing that burns. Just because it burns doesn't mean it has alcohol in it... like just because it's a mammal does not mean it's a dog.

[@s0lastsummer7]

I heard the word "mortgage" and I LITERALLY started SWEATING BULLETS. I had to file for bankruptcy years ago because of a medical condition and the resulting hospital expenses, and I have, like, financial PTSD, I still feel like puking when my phone rings and I avoid checking the mail completely. Listening to these girls talk about car programs was bad enough... MORTGAGE?! YOUR FAMILY'S ENTIRE HOME. OMG. 😢

[@LisaHarvey16]

They could all lose everything. That is so scary.

[@labachaterairlandesa]

I’m sorry you went through this. I hate that this happens to people. It’s not right.

[@catlover2223]

"If you stick your head in a fire, your hair is at risk for catching on fire, because it is flammable. So, don't light your hair on fire!" Bringing the solid facts as usual! Thanks Hannah!

[@TheSamDee]

🤣 Seriously...it's common sense!

[@Dreaming5]

25:05 ‘wrong. Completely wrong. She just lied to your face’ I CACKLED a big witchy anti-MLM laugh 😂😂

[@Lee-qf9dz]

They call it "lazy" when ppl aren't succeeding in the MLM. Yet.... over 90% of the whole company isn't making a living...so is 90% of their whole company just lazy? Lol!

[@rebeccalock4900]

Taking Hannah into my garden with me today, listening to Hannah and planting flowers bliss x

[@BrynnKelly2014]

32:52 This is Hannah already fully exhibiting mom energy 😂😂 love

[@marymcdaniel3883]

Hannah posts, I click.

[@MusicalK93]

Accurate. Drop everything!

[@Atherness]

Right - her content is fun and she's so sweet. Also possible kitty sightings!

[@jray5907]

So she's saying working can help you pay off your mortgage and car bill? I can do that with the job I have now lol and I have health insurance, dental insurance and a 401k, I'm good 😂

[@jessicah3992]

I’m so scared for the fallout of this mortgage program…so scary

[@alexisk8888]

Stopped my previous video and ran over here! Always look forward to these. Hope baby comes soon ❤

[@alexis-jl9jo]

As someone who works for a mortgage lender, the mortgage bonus sounds like a nightmare and completely impractical. Most people in a MLM are going to have a hard enough time qualifying for a mortgage in the first place but making people think they can earn a rank and start collecting a bonus to pay their mortgage… their spirits are going to be crushed when they mention the term “mortgage bonus” to a lender and they tell them they can’t include this bonus in their qualifying income. Very very sad.

[@kaylarealtalk_safespace5127]

I never realized before that the Monat Rejuvenique oil is clear - straight up the color of water. I wonder how much of that product is literally just filler. So I actually got curious and Googled the ingredients. Turns out the first FIVE ingredients of this product are fatty carrier oils. 🙃 Going deeper into it - Lemon, Lime, and Bergamot are the only essential oils in this product, the rest is literally just filler. They sure are spending a lot of money on some glorified coconut oil.

[@debymello4756]

It also makes think about the cringing emoji in the "so thick" comment. Thicker hair oils usually are thicker because you can cover more hair with a drop or are meant to mix with filler like coconut oil before appling, but put the emoji like it's somehow a bad thing

[@kaylarealtalk_safespace5127]

Oh no, not the "they're just lazy" narrative from a Monat boss babe 😂😂

[@stephanieefany]

Hey Hannah - I know Scentbird would have just... sent (lol) those fragrences to you but l'occitane actually launched an MLM part of the company in 2021. WHich is super sad because I loved l'occitane products and now I won't buy them. Just a heads up and maybe you can communicate with Scentbird that maybe they should look at not stocking them :)

[@huntedbystingrays371]

You know what's super duper professional? Filming a business promotion video with a screaming child in the background

[@alixclausen7453]

My 9-5 office job offers a car and mortgage bonus…I get it every month for just showing up and working. 😂

[@Mama_Bear524]

41:40 yes!!!! A beachbody hun tried to convince me ADDING 300-500$ per month was going to save me money. Now I was bad with money especially then but I definitely knew that math didn’t add up.

[@MonaLyssa33]

Rest is SUPER important. Before 2020 I was working at a library and being autistic and having to work around a bunch of people and very little white noise, I got overstimulated *very* easily and I would be stressed out all the time. I never had any PTO because I had to take time off a lot to recover from noise defensiveness. Once I started working from home where I could control my environment, I work a lot better, I actually have accrued PTO, and I'm a much better employee because I have more opportunities to rest.

[@MonaLyssa33]

Also, wood catches on fire, so does paper and a lot of clothing. You know what doesn't? Asbestos. Does that mean I'm going to put it in my house? Hell no.

[@bananajewell8846]

I didn’t know flour could catch on fire! Bread is scary!😂

[@Oliveyourmoney]

This why I’m gluten free 😜

[@irenesandron7530]

A hun told me that there is always the chance even my company shuts down/I lose my job...yes, but in that case I would be able to look for a similar position, I wouldn't need to recruit my way back up to my position. Academic titles, job experience etc are things you build and can rely on because they cannot be taken away from you, the same cannot be said about a downline

[@letsalltakeawalk6906]

i am really curious to know the details of this "mortgage bonus". like do you have to move? can you get it if you're a renter? will you have to put a sign up in front of your house advertising the mlm?

[@kbird6208]

You have to paint your house white or black and install a Mercedes logo

[@reidleblanc3140]

Whenever you mention downlines falling apart, I think about my dad; he does some fancy ass research/contract work for an institute. His team is currently falling apart too: people are retiring left and right, their replacements aren't doing their jobs, companies are going to other institutes with contracts. his paycheck *has* taken a hit, since it's partially reliant on the money from the contracts. keyword *partially.* he still has well more than a full time income. my mom could still retire early. I can still go to an expensive university. because his company makes sure he gets the pay he *deserves,* even when unfortunate circumstances arise. greener pastures do exist. the situations presented in mlms are not an inevitability of the world.

[@jlconnors7872]

It's like MLM's almost solely exist because owners have deep-seeded spite for people, but above all, number one is GREED.

[@ShapingSarah]

Mortgage bonus? These MLMs will do anything to keep them tied in the business by their neck 😳

[@Mama_Bear524]

Yup!! It’s exactly this

[@Aravah1887]

Once upon a time, miners would live in small company towns and they were paid in script, company "money" that could only be used at the company store. As you can imagine, the prices were much higher than in a regular town/store but that was the only place the miner and family could shop. Everything centered on the mining job - housing and food and a small allotment of real money. Many people worked the mine after awhile because they owed the company store. Hmmm, sounds like cars & housing through MLM's....

[@businessacc179]

Wooowww I didn’t know that about miners! Crazy-same scheme but different model/ industry 😮

[@Aravah1887]

@@businessacc179 feudal system updated

[@moanathecat4664]

Reminds me of Tennessee Ernie Ford song "sixteen tons"

[@Aravah1887]

@@moanathecat4664 yes, exactly! Story of mainly coal mines and sweat factories

[@Scortex]

So... German man here. (love your videos, very very bingeable indeed). Those reps make my toenails crawl. The way they speak. And the SAME PHRASES EVERYTIME. Like "it's so exciting and so fun, like, omg!!", girl, I will never be able to take anyone seriously again who says those words to me. NEVER.

[@floraflowers]

MLMs are proof that America needs a stable, long-term maternity leave plan. Give women the chance to take 1-2 years of maternity leave and watch MLM memberships drop. - someone who doesn't want kids

[@larissabrglum3856]

If we had more social safety nets in general, but especially those relating to pregnancy, childbirth, and childcare, women wouldn't feel the need to resort to sketchy ways of making money!

[@carolsummers8734]

As a hair stylist, she probably rents her chair and the more hair she cuts, the more money she makes. The same as a Monat rep. The more she sells and recruits, the more she makes. The difference is, when she leaves the salon, she is done for the day.

[@pinkdarkboy7127]

Also, minimum wage was SUPPOSED to be the minimum amount of money a person could make to support a stay at home spouse and children. Yeah, try supporting a family at $7 an hour in 2023. MLMs are proof that the government has failed at maintaining a livable minimum wage, if the stay at home parent needs to make supplemental income for their family to survive. Basically, MLMs are the epitome of how our government has effectively destroyed the "american dream."

[@BWTM]

This is astonishing but in a way not surprising with so many families dealing with the spike in housing costs. This seems like a natural next step in the MLM grift. These enticements are meant to a) encourage full commitment and dedication to the MLM and b) make the MLM look good to onlookers/outsiders. Plus, it’s very likely that associates will hustle harder for a “free” house. It’s giving desperation on the part of the MLM and also “how can we set ourselves apart from other MLMs?” This is just stunning and sad.

[@fiveminutestolive]

The lip smacking of that optavia rep is driving me crazy 😂

[@valzahnzahn]

I think lighting the hair oils on fire is supposed to simulate the product being a heat protectant from styling tools. But your hair isn’t literally on fire still. It’s just flashy to get the person to watch and pay attention. But this also probably shows that the MLM product is probably full of heavy silicones or something.

[@NiktheBooksmith]

I'm sitting here thinking...if the Optavia hun says their products would save you money as opposed to buying food at the store, what does Optavia make their "feulings" out of? Aren't their ingredients going up in price, too? Things that make you go, "hmmm..."

[@maryeckel9682]

"Optavia fuelings are PEOPLE!'

[@NiktheBooksmith]

@@maryeckel9682 😂

[@soggytortillla]

The mortgage payment program disturbs me to my core!! Like you said these companies want their reps to be indebted to them, at the cost of their literal homes, cars, money and LIVELIHOOD. I am TERRIFIED for the reps that fall for this 😣

[@missamanda2703]

The only time that a MLM company had a car program that was not a scam, that was when Mary Kay "gifted" you a Cadillac after you hit like 100,000 in sales.

[@LibraInSeattle]

My employer offers a mortgage bonus. It’s called my biweekly paycheck. I don’t have to work crazy hours either. I get 5 weeks of paid vacation and paid holidays. We have a decent benefit package.

[@BWTM]

MLMs are known to vanish overnight. I can’t even imagine what that would feel like to a family who lived in a “free” house 😮 This is gross.

[@stephaniebillman5673]

Just listening to the requirements for the car programs in these companies makes me wildly anxious.

[@eggybaconbits]

The kid in the background of the Mortgage Bonus lady was saying exactly what I was thinking; "eeeeeEEEEEE!!!! 😧"

[@melissaseidl8686]

Cotton q-tips are flammable (and the ones in the video looked like they had the cardboard stick, not plastic), so the Olaplex and Moroccan oil sticks burning suggests they're breathable products. The Monat q-tip not burning suggests that their oil just slathers and chokes out your hair, possibly leaving residues behind

[@lisahance]

The cost of those Optavia fuelings is so ridiculous. One of my favorite snacks is a sliced up hard-boiled egg on a Wassa multi-grain cracker. 110 calories, no sugar, and costs 70 cents.

[@Mama_Bear524]

And likely fills you up!! I can’t imagine that other stuff will leave anyone feeling satisfied

[@Momnpop98]

Mmmm, that sounds tasty.

[@brittanyeliason4297]

Hi, mortgage loan officer here. From my perspective, a “mortgage bonus” program sounds totally crazy. That being said, I highly doubt people would be able to afford a house based just off of their MLM revenue in the first place. Since it’s 1099 work, they would have to show 2 years of sustainable profit in order to qualify for a mortgage. So this “mortgage bonus” program would have to be just like the car program in which the mlm provides a large bonus check each month. People wouldn’t be able to get a mortgage loan based off of this bonus- they would already have to qualify for the home on their own. It’s just another marketing tactic that sounds highly desirable to those in the company, but won’t actually allow people to qualify for a first mortgage.

[@singleplayercontent8659]

Lol I love when you smile in videos because I can see the rage at the misinformation blazing in your eyes

[@kyliewallendorff6219]

Woah! My job also offers a “mortgage bonus” it’s called my paycheck I get every 2 weeks. And I don’t have to harass anyone through Facebook messenger to get it 😂

[@dkeinow]

way to go Le-vel for preying on first time home buyers and those who just want to afford a roof over their head.

[@AlexOvTheAbyss]

First video - couldn't tell if that was background noise or Hannah's internal thoughts about what this woman was saying

[@sitsngigglesful]

Thanks for pre recording while you go out for baby! Hope all is well. I don't comment a ton, but watch. I tried to watch a couple other KZbin with same content subject and just am NOT into in their deliveries/presentation. Appreciate you!!

[@livingbygrace5501]

I had a sudden epiphany. While MLM’s exists in Canada, they don’t seem to be as “in your face”. It occurred to me during this video that if women are concerned about being home with their children, it certainly helps that our country has: 1. Universal health care. So there is no medical debt from having a child. 2. Paid maternity/parental leave. Two parents can split up to 18 months between them. So coming up to the birth, there is not the same anxiety.

[@desireeclaire2044]

That message at the end of the video from a Mary Kay hun, sounds so much like a friend of mine who has been with MK for at least 21 years now. She is incredibly sweet but I don't talk to her often because I don't want her to see me as a new customer or recruit. She contacted me near my birthday to tell me that she entered me (unknowingly) into a raffle for my birthday and I won a free make over and I could invite several friends. Of course I knew what this tactic was and refused to accept anything from her. It made me feel bad because she is so nice, but it also made me a little angry to know this is just a ploy to get more customers. I have not heard from her since!

[@mayas883]

At my work, the vacuum almost caught on fire (someone forgot to empty it, so the confetti couldn't go anywhere 🤦‍♀️). Sounds like a good opportunity for Kirby to take a page from Monat's book 😂

[@kjwilliams1031]

"Are you planning on to lighting your hair on fire?!" 😂😂😂

[@ihatethis6472]

The way some of these women talk drives me up a wall. The stopping every 4 seconds to make some weird mouth sound 🥴💀

[@JokesInBase13]

Honestly, I'm more concerned that the Monet oil DOESN'T catch on fire...

[@TheCarolchereja]

A MORTGAGE PROGRAM? HAVE U GUYS LEARNED NOTHING FROM 2008?

[@timriehl1500]

Exactly!

[@racheljane_]

The fact these people will say they “have their own business” when they didn’t even start it (are basically sales people, earning commission on products they sell just like any other sales person), and that if the company goes down, they all go down with it, is baffling.