MLM TOP FAILS #70 | Exploiting young children for a Young Living pitch

[@HannahAlonzo]

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[@SoCalJellybean]

That first “mother” is 100% the type who, in 20 years, will be genuinely wondering why her kids all went no-contact with her! 🙄

[@LisaHarvey16]

I 100% agree with you.

[@DINKY77142]

Or a Forensics Files episode.. no further comment... Ahem..

[@lounakin]

Like that narcissistic one posting dramatic videos about being an estranged mom!

[@WillowBlossoms]

Totally

[@lenerush1520]

It reminded me of Ruby Franke ....

[@renooples]

“You have to eat it.” How disgusting to turn your child wanting to try a new thing into a punishment. Heartbreaking.

[@sarahmarieivfmommy8581]

And then claim she made this choice and it’s self inflicted. No maam you forced her to eat it after she felt satisfied.

[@maeveokay]

I've only watched the first story, but ... her daughter chose candy, so she got punished with NO DINNER because she was "grouchy" afterward. I'm not a parent, but withholding food from your child as a punishment seems extreme and honestly a bit scary. I really hope those kids are okay and grow up to have a healthier relationship food than their mom.

[@creationslandscapedesigns]

I wonder if this could even be labeled as borderline abusive? SO SAD!

[@maeveokay]

seriously. I usually try to not label stuff abusive online but this really gave me the creeps@@creationslandscapedesigns

[@TheHitsubasa]

Really??! Wtf

[@jaymondallie]

Sounds like Ruby Franke. Hate to bring her up but she’s the only other delusional “parent” I have personally seen, take away dinner as a punishment.

[@universal_stupidity]

as someone who had food withheld as a punishment when I was younger, it is extreme and scary. It tends to cause a bad relationship with food, with eating disorder and hoarding behaviors. I really hope those kids turn out ok.

[@JuMiKu]

That first woman is a monster. If this is what she proudly posts online and the kids act this weirdly, I honestly can't stomach the thought of what goes on behind the scenes.

[@maryeckel9682]

It's so Ruby Franke

[@triciadrammeh4536]

I don’t why everyone has to be such haters about essential oil. I started using it to regulate my cycle and not only did it help, but I also regrew several missing teeth. I sprinkled oil on my kids and they were all accepted into Harvard (even when they didn’t apply 🎉)! I poured essential oil on my phone and I started getting tons of emails with marriage proposals from Nigerian princes. My whole life has changed due to embracing the oily life!!! 😂😂😂

[@littlegreencap28]

You had me going in the first half 😂😂

[@mangomangopie]

🤣 It took me a little to long to realize this was a joke!

[@maryeckel9682]

😂😂😂 well done!

[@SeekingMagick]

This is the best comment 😂

[@1goofymommy]

😂

[@Liter8ure]

As a child who dealt with bedwetting and accidents due to a bladder condition, I cried watching that child be humiliated and blamed for an age appropriate accident. If she's really so sensitive to choclate that it causes accidents, she needs to see a pediatric urologist, not be used in an MLM promo video. That poor child.

[@ladyviking]

Yeah, MAYbe the kid peed her pants because she was nervous as all hell she was afraid she was going to get punished, ignored, or emotionally withheld from because she chose the candy. And well well, the mother DID withhold and punish.

[@spoops2357]

THIS. absolutely this.

[@Diiful]

100%

[@sallykline4725]

That was my thought too.

[@meganmadsen7247]

Yep... and them saying "you have to eat it" standing there watching wth people. Those poor babies.

[@LouisePrior-i2x]

Serious emotional abuse for sure

[@dorothyelizabeth1559]

Reminds me of a time we all went camping. A friend of a friend saw me giving my son cucumbers from my plate as we were having lunch. She said “your son eats vegetables?” She then gave her son the cucumber slices and he was reaching out for it until he saw her grimace and say “you want that? Yuk”, of course he declined. Later on that day I found out all of her three children were on medication for constipation.

[@alexia3552]

Oh… wow

[@crocheh]

I am absolutely sickened that someone one would withhold food from their children because of their quote-unquote "grouchiness" as punishment. Food is a basic human need - you don't withhold it. Frick, this pisses me off to no end.

[@adriannalatta5928]

And isn’t grouchiness in toddlers often a sign that they’re hungry🤔 but yeah, she’ll get over her grouchiness by starving

[@ShortArts96]

big diet ruby franke vibes for anyone aware of that issue...

[@Mama_Bear524]

⁠@@adriannalatta5928yup!!! And yes very Ruby franke

[@Uneclipsed]

@@adriannalatta5928I’m an adult and I still sometimes get grouchy when I’m hungry. Withholding food could make this worse, not better. I hate this punishment.

[@hannahsturgill537]

Her “bad attitude” is probably just hunger. It’s proof that she needs to eat some dinner, that she will then dangle like a carrot on a stick to get what she wants out of her child. Sickening. Basic needs are never, ever used as punishment or reward.

[@InevitableSecrets]

“Here have some poison three year old…. Oh you feel yucky because you took the food I your MOTHER offered you? Well that’s your fault, you self inflicted that upon yourself”. Way to erode trust mom.

[@dazzlingextremes389]

Right!!!! I COULDN'T BELIEVE she just told her child she fed her POISON. LORD HAVE MERCY

[@MashaRistova]

Those kids will be no-contact with that evil mother in a decade or two

[@alexia3552]

Also the parents telling them “You HAVE to eat ALL of it”. At that point it’s not self-inflicted. Their parents commanded them, with the backing threat of punishment if they disobey. In those children’s minds now, they had no option but to eat ALL of the “poison,” and now mom is punishing me for it. What kind of a twisted life experience.

[@jaymondallie]

Ruby Franke is now awaiting trial for CA - & also used taking away dinner as a punishment. I think that speaks volumes about what should happen to the first woman in this video.

[@maryeckel9682]

I wonder if this woman is a follower of hers.

[@briannaobrien4419]

EXACTLY

[@FransceneJK98]

She is??? Awesome!!! I was hoping she’d pay the consequences for being such a 💩 excuse of a mother

[@FransceneJK98]

I just checked. Wikipedia says : “She was sentenced to up to 60 years in prison on February 20, 2024.” 😮

[@FransceneJK98]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Franke

[@cynthiafisher3392]

In the first video, my strong suspicion is that the little girl peed herself, because she got the wrath of mom who was unhappy that she chose the “wrong item“ and the child was upset and scared, and that is why she peed on herself. Also, what do you think her classmates are going to say to her in a few years when they find these videos?

[@charlisays]

I think too. And her irritating condescending voice documenting their lives constantly. Can you imagine. 🤢

[@bluealien-mae]

I agree! You can hear in her voice, and the limited body language that she's very nervous. She's putting literal distance between her and her mom.

[@lilianmorgenstern2123]

Omg I just wanted to type this!! Pound to a penny that kid could clearly tell how tense and stressed and maybe angry that mum was

[@suecarol1563]

The kid feeling bad after the candy probably more because they realized Mom was mad at them for being bad and doing something wrong than the candy.

[@flotography]

Mom EXPECTED them to feel bad

[@arianna0670]

As a survivor of narcissistic abuse…..the first mom is torturing thise sweet angels. They are gonna grow up with eating disorders. Oh and the withholding dinner…..thats abuse too. Its the worst feeling watching your family eat while yours is shoveled into the trash infront of you. I feel for those children immensely.

[@palemeadows]

narcabuse doesn’t exist, your mother was just abusive.

[@stacylarson740]

That first mom is a piece of work. If she truly thought candy was “poison” then she would not have given it to her daughters as an option.

[@superfacch]

Yeah it's despicable. There's teaching your kids to feel how different foods affect their bodies...and then there's this 🤨😒

[@LisaHarvey16]

What they are doing is so wrong.

[@lilessab85]

Ruby Franke vibes

[@LisaHarvey16]

@@lilessab85 This!

[@zidapplip]

It's very subtle, but it teaches the kid that the mother won't protect them from dangerous situations like "eating poison", and/or that the mother lies.

[@AM-tl1xi]

Hannah, I know this was just a small comment on a much bigger issue but you saying “kids pick up on the tone of the parents and they can tell which option the parent is encouraging”(paraphrasing) was soooo validating. As a kid I always knew which kinds of foods my mom looked down on so when we got some “to see what it tastes like” of course I told her I didn’t enjoy them. Hearing her brag that I didn’t like those foods was extra validation. Meanwhile I was OBSESSED with them. Begging for leftovers from my classmates and when I went to college would binge on them. Not only it gave me a messed up relationship with food but I started analysing her opinions (direct and indirectly) and lying to tell her what I knew she wanted to hear on everything.

[@rebelbelle1388]

I had a friend growing up whose parents would never buy him McDonald's because they were convinced it was 'poison'. Flash forward to high school. He got his driver's license and his mom's car and would leave campus EVERY DAY to have McDonald's for lunch. He gained weight and it eventually made him sick. If you don't teach your kids how to make healthy choices and eat foods in moderation, they will binge the moment they are able to.

[@PhoenyxV]

Just to throw in a slightly lighthearted anecdote of that, sometimes kids of a certain age will absolutely pick up on that tone and STILL choose the "wrong" option -- I should know, I was one of them lol As a toddler (like ages 2-4 probably) I was OBSESSED with The Charlie Brown Christmas Special, like I would watch our (recorded off the TV with commercial breaks) VHS of it pretty much daily. And my mom would ask me in that exact tone "Do you want to watch (sounds bored/sad) Charlie Brown, or (sounds excited/happy) this OTHER movie?" 9/10 times, I'd still go "Charlie Brown!" Anyway that's how to this day, thirty years later, I can still recite almost that entire movie from memory.

[@Mary-kl4tk]

Call CPS NOW on this mother. Just kidding...sort of. Sounds like dad is guilty too. Poor kids

[@kellyspryszak80]

Omg. Shaming your kids online...it makes me wonder what the hell happens when they're NOT on camera. And she is threatening not to feed her child, too? What kind of 8 Passengers BS is this???? UGH!!!!!

[@ayajade6683]

The part two of this clip was taking dinner away for picking candy

[@markwhitesides]

After the last little girl was told “not when it’s self inflicted tummy pain”…the anger on Hannah’s face was so intense - i could feel the frustration through the phone! 😂

[@graciepeanutpi7537]

Without even going into how gross the first clip is, just the fact that one of the sweets she offers the kids is a sour candy that the kids probably wouldn’t choose anyway is an immediate tip off

[@HannahAlonzo]

Dang that’s such a good point that I didn’t think about! I’m sure to some young kids, eating sour things isn’t an enjoyable experience, maybe the choice to offer *that* kind of candy was intentional? 😢

[@erinfindsen4953]

Yeah try that with Reese’s cups :)

[@mrsmerily]

I dont agree... there are kids who like them.... there is lot of sugar so it is not sour but gives you feeling it is. I think this is reading too much into it. Calling candy poioson that is crazy.

[@krispycupcake]

It’s definitely intentional, you can tell because they tell the girls they HAVE to eat the whole thing. She knows they might not like it.

[@anaemicroyalty0504]

​@@HannahAlonzoI'm a full grown adult and I still hate sour things

[@thecarouselpitch]

Congrats first parents for filming the proof of you creating permanent psychological issues in your kids for life. They’ll forever feel horrible guilt anytime they want candy or dare to have a piece, and whichever kid has the tendency to be more curious and independent and try different things will continuously be punished and pitted against the other siblings, creating resentment for life👍🏻

[@cmcoy5982]

Hey, on the plus side, in ten years they can directly show their therapist why they have an eating disorder

[@anothertwenty-something1929]

This whole "filming yourself while driving, ranting about your pyramid scheme" is common enough that my husband, who only every now and then overhears me watching anti-MLM content, has now taken to saying "must have been a hun" when he notices bad/ distracted drivers.

[@ericnelson9100]

now that you mention it, yeah, you might be onto something.

[@jelyfisher]

😂👌

[@LizMcDo]

This is so funny to me 😭😂

[@brittanybee2166]

I love this 😂

[@Adelehalsall]

Must have been a hun! lol! That’s brilliant, I’m using that one

[@catherinefrenchhorn]

She just let her kid believe that she allowed them to eat poison. That alone is so problematic.

[@Pippa87]

I had to skip the parts with the woman talking on the first story and skip to your commentary because it enraged me so much. I’m a teacher and I’m currently emailing a student work who is in the hospital because of an ED. This girl has so much anxiety around “good” food and “bad” food exasperated by OCD. School work calms her mind and her doctors ask us to send it so she can “eat distracted.” Seeing this woman weaponise food in this way is making me emotional in a way I can’t describe, but it is probably to do with my student.

[@schrdngrskat3847]

That is so heartbreaking. I hope your student will be okay. 😢❤ I love how much you care for her.

[@cmcoy5982]

I'm so glad you and her doctors are helping her in that way. I'm also a person who needs to eat distracted or eating is torturous so i promise it does really help. And what a great way to help her keep up on some of the school she's missing.

[@amandahaak4017]

Dinner is not a reward or punishment. It’s a basic need. So disgusting.

[@fantasymagic97]

That first story is rough. I can’t imagine trying so hard to promote something that you convince your small children that the one small piece of candy they ate is causing any problem that happened after.

[@hailyjohnson407]

Especially considering she blamed her 3 year old having an accident "for the first time in a week" as being caused by candy. If she hadn't had an accident in over a year then maybe I would consider something they ate or drank to maybe cause it, but otherwise it's just a normal experience for that child's level of master of potty training.

[@noreenelizabeth6617]

​@hailyjohnson407 and the fact her mom just told her that chocolate is poison. And on top of that, as a child, having the thought in your head that "mom would offered me poison and allowed me to poison myself... oh wait.. she warned me. Its my fault. Its my fault she gave me poison". I know it's not actually poison but her daughter doesn't know that. What an absolute psycho that woman is.

[@peachdust]

I am sure she was like this long before MLMs, but then she found the god indorsed young living. Then she decides to use her kids to promote her crappy products. I'm sorry, I am not a fan of this lady. Yuck yuck yuck

[@sweetsaucyhazel]

the first clip is KILLING me. manipulating and low-key abusing her kids in the name of some MLM! disgusting!

[@hollyedmiston3332]

Also, if you REALLY believed it was poison, and you loved your children, you wouldn’t offer it to them at all. Not to mention making them part of your “experiment.” Gross.

[@LisaHarvey16]

Bullseye!

[@delusion5867]

I think you mean her advertisements... considering that's all she treats them as

[@UGAIMES]

*Marked safe from having to talk about my periods to total strangers for my “job”*

[@TheHitsubasa]

I am actually very happy with the kids that chose the candies. I am so upset with the mom here. Srsly though the kid who owned it like “if I cry then I’ll cry” like you go girl and please I hope that if your mom doesn’t change you end up cutting contact once you grow up 😅

[@ariellenathanson1640]

I think it also speaks volumes that she's probably been told that if she's going to cry she needs to go somewhere else and not disturb everyone. I truly believe that as a child, it's a natural response to go to your caretakers when you cry. She, however, has obviously learned she cannot . I found that 100% creepy.

[@littlegreencap28]

I totally agree! She said “if it makes me cry, I’ll go to my room and have a cry, and then I’ll eat something different next time”. Intuitive eating queen!!! 👸🏼

[@Mama_Bear524]

I was really impressed with her. Surely that nasty mom will squash that

[@kconway2263]

Picking the Kit Kat was definitely the correct choice. It’s not premium chocolate, but it’s tasty.

[@michellemybelle2263]

Did you feel like after they chose they felt fearful to actually eat it though or like they felt it was a trap

[@csteinagard]

Hello from Norway! This applies to the lady who is driving at the same time as she is filming with her mobile phone. It is so wrong in so many ways. If the police here in Norway had caught her in this, she would have received a fine of 965 dollars, and if she could not pay it, she would have had to go to prison. But since she probably earns so much from her "job", paying the fine would probably not be a problem.

[@alexia3552]

Although she might be part of the 99% who do not make more than they spend… so likely it would have been an effective punishment at least. Regardless, don’t use your phone and drive

[@artisticflower]

Dang … that first story with the candy is so disturbing. Definitely an almond mom teaching her kids ED behavior.

[@avesavis]

I was thinking the exact same thing!! This is NOT teaching them a good relationship with food.

[@happymelodieart]

I could soooooo feel your anger during that first clip and I was literally boiling myself with rage. That kind of people, shouldn't be allowed to have kids. I'm sorry, but I do meant it. This is abusive, mean, controling and borderline bullying her own children. This is disguting.

[@kristinelaybourn5929]

Personally, I think the young living mom isn’t paying attention to her child’s cues that they needed to use the bathroom. She’s probably so wrapped up in her video she didn’t remind the child to go.

[@Kayla_P99]

I thought it was stressful to the poor kid to cause it too

[@alyciaosante5492]

Good point

[@melodyfaith3806]

Ohhh stress is a very likely factor

[@businessacc179]

Plus also, why did she even include that in the video- as if having a potty accident had anything to do with the Kit Kat 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@moringsdaughter]

Yeah, having a potty accident and a stomach ache is a good possibility that the child is constipated. That didn't come from 1 KitKat. Nervousness and anxiety can also cause those symptoms in a child.

[@Akira_of_the_Fae]

Ive heard that a kid peeing herself when she hasnt had accidents for a while is a sign of SEVEAR stress and should be looked into, this is so BAD

[@mommy2libras]

This kid wet herself after not having an accident for a week. Not months, not years. A WEEK. And she's 3. The way the mom said it, it sounded like they were potty training. This is normal. And yes, this may have put a bit of stress on the kid but Jesus, this is not "so bad". Millions of people- including you- have very specific ideas and opinions about food and they pass them onto their children. The same way parents teach and bring their kids up in their religions (which is often much worse than telling them "candy is bad for you"). The same way you got many of your ideas and the way you think about things from your parents. And while I do agree that this mom's behavior is ridiculous and may cause some issues for the kids later in life, you need to get some perspective. The fact that she's always filming them and plastering them online for her benefit is also harmful- as harmful as anything else in that video- but none of it is abuse. None of that behavior in that video is even exactly rare. Plenty of parents film their kids and put them online, plenty teach them the ridiculous "candy is poison" mantra, plenty are into this whole "anti vax, essential oil, no doctor" bs lifestyle. And plenty put pressure on their kids. None of those kids was severely stressed in the video so it's super assumption of you to automatically assume that "it's so bad" and they have this horrible abusive homelife going just by what was on the video. I definitely don't agree with the "go to bed with no dinner" punishment but even that isn't exactly unheard of, even though it's not stellar parenting.

[@lemonywater2979]

​@@mommy2librasJust because a behavior is normalized or "not rare" doesn't make it not abuse. Don't film your kids to advertise your scam, don't fuck up their relationship with food, and don't set them up so they purposefully have to go to bed with no dinner. If you don't do any of those things, you recognize they're bad, so why do you defend that behavior? Weirdo behavior

[@thegrimlooper]

👀 kids eventually learn how to make their unstable parents happy that way they don’t have to deal with what happens if they disagree

[@jaeydnheeren]

the fourth nervous system response: fauning. they bend to the will of the unstable person in order to calm any waters that may erupt at any minute. its so enraging to see such young children have to learn this survival skill so early on

[@JLCME]

Nailed it

[@xladycaosx]

10000000% this. My parents had a terrible marriage and my mom is not a good parent and I could tell from the slightest inflection in my mom’s voice when s*it was about to go down. I don’t even want or particularly like kids and that clip made me so mad.

[@sammybegood8820]

This

[@starophie]

instead of being impressed that the child in the minnie mouse shirt gave excellent reasoning behind their choice for candy and articulated their feelings, the mlmer tried to a) change child's mind, b) shame them for their choice, and then c) punish them for an outcome that she had already decided was going to happen!!! i doubt that this child was "grouchy" at all, and if they were, it was probably because they were being treated poorly for making the "wrong" choice because they didn't realize it was a trick question!

[@imzabatch]

"trick question" - that's so perfect and so horrifying at the same time. It WAS a trick question that she actually punished her (young!) kids for. That mom is a sicko.

[@marynademirska8655]

The kids from the first clip are 1000% gonna have eating disorders. My mother was less strict with food, but even watching the video made me feel what it was like to be a child in a 'clean' anti-medicide-ani-chemical household again

[@sammybegood8820]

Absolutely! Myself and my siblings all had issues or eating disorders from this kind of childhood.

[@TenderKiss86]

When that first lady said candy could make you lose your dinner, i thought she meant that it would make them sick, not take it away completely! Thank you, Ruby Franke! Food should never be used as a punishment!!

[@MindiB]

Absolutely horrifying parenting in clip one. Your observations of the childrens’ trained reactions are entirely accurate and I find myself grieving for their futures under this parental. . . regime. As the daughter of a narcissist, I know firsthand how this level of gaslighting and control damages children.

[@psyduck2747]

I agree, clip one almost looks like they’ve never seen candy before in their life, which is incredibly weird.

[@myheartismadeofstars]

​@@psyduck274710-1 they are homeschooled and literally have never been allowed to see candy. She had to explain what a kit-kat bar is. That's not normal. I bet the younger kids wanted something new because they don't like the Ningxia, while the older kids didn't trust the new thing because Mommy has told them it's bad and they know the Ningxia

[@Mama_Bear524]

She’s abusive full stop and she needs to be reported

[@psyduck2747]

@@Mama_Bear524 agreed!

[@candacebex4370]

She asked a three-year-old how long it had been since she ate the candy and then prompted her with 20 to 25 minutes? A three-year-old can't tell time. This was the most enraging video I've ever seen on this channel

[@bluealien-mae]

Exactly! There's a reason we don't really teach time till 2nd or third grade.

[@alexia3552]

Like dude, when I was first learning time it was in concepts of “one hour” and then “half hour.” What the heck even is a “20 minutes”¿? I’m three.

[@raetay113]

“This is self induced pain” 📞 hi CPS….

[@moringsdaughter]

From the candy that Mom offered and then forced her to eat. Or more likely from the dinner time she forced the little girl to miss.

[@NikkiRN-CLC]

The first story made me wanna call cps. Such awful, gross behavior like im so upset. Im literally shaking right now. I atruggled with an eatint disorder since age 9. My kids are both toddlers and i encourage heslthy food of COURSE and when my kids eat their veggies i tell them I'm proud of them! But we also have candy and cake and whatnot. Not every meal, but in appropriate portions in moderation. And guess what? They're healthy and thriving. But the psychological damage has begun for the kids in those videos is so deep and disturbing

[@universal_stupidity]

Withholding food as a punishment is so dangerous. The kids learn that food is a moral thing, which causes eating disorder behaviors. They also learn food is something that could be taken away, so it has to be held onto, which tends to cause hoarding/binging. Also! restricting candy too that extent causes kids to never learn how to self regulate sugar intake.

[@myheartismadeofstars]

Yep this is why I stole food from the cupboard and fridge when I was a kid. I would be hungry and I'd go out later and sneak anything to fill my stomach. I became very meticulous about putting stuff back exactly how it was (direction of labels, exact location within millimeters, etc) I distinctly remember eating caramel sauce because I was hungry and I didn't get enough to eat because there wasn't much else I could easily sneak that they wouldn't notice

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

Growing up my parents would rarely allow us to have candy for dental and health reasons. They allowed us to only have candy on the following days; our birthdays, Halloween, Christmas and Easter. Even then it was extremely limited especially on Halloween and we had school the next day. Which probably was a good thing because many times, when school was the next day, a lot of kids would be called out because they indulged and got sick. Our diets in general were pretty regulated; mom would not let us choose our meals. If we didn't like something, she would make us sit at the table until we ate enough to satisfy her. For her that was eating at least half of what was on the plate. She would sit with us to encourage to eat the food and it sometimes went for an hour or two. Now that isn't to say we ate gross or complicated meals as she often did make us simple meals like spaghetti or classic chicken nuggets and fries. But, and my dad loves to tease me for it, sometimes if we really didn't like something and made a huge fuss. They had to resort to lying about it saying it was something else to get us to eat it. And we fell for it until we got older; now it's super embarrassing. And we were allowed to eat things like popcorn and have a soda but only in limited qualities (but more so than straight up candy). I will say that for snacks between meals; we couldn't eat anything unless mom approved of it. And her choice in snacks was fruits and vegetables. No cookies or other sweets or junk food.

[@kst4878]

That first clip made me so sick I had to stop watching. I had a teacher in elementary school who treated her class that way. She shamed kids for what they ate, wore, and what they read (She called my favorite books "trash.") Left lasting damage because we all wanted to please her and make her like us and she'd giggle and smile while saying the cruelest things. Psychopath behavior.

[@giselleremismakeupartist106]

The first story makes me sick. Growing up in a house that demonized candy and forced us to eat all our dinner, I struggle to this day with weight issues and my family likes to point that out even though they are the ones that engraved this way of eating into me. I'm trying to be better with my kids but having grandma come around constantly saying that she has been bad because she ate a certain thing doesn't help. I guess a long story short, I hope this mom learns better before her kids have long term damage.

[@Shirumoon]

That kid is 1000% gonna have an eating disorder, if they don't already. I hate to make assumptions on mental health usually but that clip was just... abuse, brainwashing, diet culture all in one. Cruel.

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

My parents severely restricted our access to candy; we could only have it on special occasions like our birthdays and holidays and in limited amount. Their claim is for dental and health reasons as my parents, especially my dad, were health nuts. To be fair, my dad has diabetes so it's understandable why he would have a controlling diet. And he probably worried that if he wasn't careful with us we could also be diabetic since it is hereditary. And when it came to meals, while mom tried to make us popular kids meals like nuggets and fries. She was not the type of person who would take no for an answer. She would make us sit at the table if we refused to eat what she cooked until we ate enough to satisfy her (1/2 the plate at the minimum). This is something my dad like to embarrass me with in front of others but as a young child I absolutely refused to eat chicken. My parents tried everything to make me it and I threw a massive tantrum. Eventually they decided to straight up lie about chicken saying it was a kind of pork since I loved pork chops. I, being a little kid, fell for it and started eating it. Don't get me wrong, when I was old enough to learn the truth I still decided to eat chicken as I had grown to love it. But my dad still won't let me live it down among other embarrassing memories. When it came to snack time, we couldn't eat anything mom didn't approve of which was fruits and vegetables. As for junk food besides candy, we were allowed to have it more frequently than candy but it was still limited. My sister did end up getting anorexia but I don't think my parents strict diet was the issue. As a high schooler she was extremely beautiful and extremely popular. She got sucked up in a scam from people who said they wanted to have her try out for beauty pageants. But they thought she was 'too heavy' when she was already think due to being born premature. As a result she got tricked into eating only one protein bar every other day. Mom and dad were furious when they found out, but they didn't punish her or even yell at her as they knew it wasn't her fault. They had to enroll her into professional counseling to get her to snap out of it. She lost a lot of weight because of it and was dangerously skinny. But slowly she recovered but never fully got out of restricting herself sometimes. To which either we or her husband and in laws have to talk her into eating and splurging if necessary. As for her own children, she does the same thing mom did to us albeit to a lesser extent. As for me; I don't really touch candy anymore as I just keep getting sick. I wouldn't say I eat super healthy but I do make sure to not get carried away with food.

[@RiaJaize]

As a mom, I've worked hard to respect my children's choices and not continually question them. Drives me crazy to hear this mom offer her kids something but then not let the subject rest once they've made a decision.

[@Pweips]

I'm so bothered by the emphasis she put on "28 day cycle" it uses to scare me so much if my cycle wasn't 28 days till my actual GYN told me that normal is more or less 25 to 35 days. There's nothing wrong with those number. Eugh. Thanks for making this video it's so important.

[@DracoTriste]

100% true! And it’s also normal and healthy for a woman’s cycle to shift in length with major life changes (like having a baby) or age. My cycles did used to be 28 day cycles, (which was actually unusual in my friend group) but then I had a baby. It took a long time to regulate but when they did my cycles were 34 days. That surprised me at first and I kept waiting for them to be “normal” again until I figured out that 34 was my new normal! Length of a regular cycle is not the main indicator of health. I hate how much she was stressing the least important symptom. It’s such a distraction from truly important health issues.

[@ahouseofpomegranates4338]

i remember when i was 18 and i went to a gynecologist for the first time (to get my ovaries checked because i would get these random pain attacks that my aunt thought were cysts and no one believed me until this year when i finally got the cysts diagnosed at the er) and she was so shocked about my cycle being 32-36 days and i bled for about 7-12 days, and it was very regular, never had irregularities after i was maybe 12. i never thought it was that weird but she was like. actually concerned about me

[@Adelehalsall]

Yep! My cycle has regularly been 35 days ever since I was a teenager and I never worried about it because I had received the right period education letting me know that was normal. This woman needs to check her period knowledge.

[@elizabethwhite2796]

I’m dying to know what these girls think the mechanism of action is behind oils fixing your period and fertility problems. Especially when it’s just topically applied! Also, Hannah you’re absolutely right about putting foods on a pedestal leading issues down the road. I’m a registered dietitian in the US, and eliminating the Good vs Bad foods mentality is something I feel very very strongly about, as do many other dietitians who don’t support traditional dieting. It’s very important to allow all kinds of foods throughout the lifecycle, especially for kids.

[@easternflower6476]

As someone who has struggled with difficult periods since I was 13, I really felt for the girl in the third video! Imagine having all those issues for FIVE YEARS and then you get sucked into a scam on top of that??? Yikes. Hope she gets real medical relief at some point!

[@sidhedanu]

She needs Dong Quai. It's the only thing that fixes me. I bled constantly for months even on birth control.

[@jklroxmysox111]

@@sidhedanu unregulated supplements ew

[@sidhedanu]

Chinese medicine is nothing to scoff at. It has fixed irregular periods for me more than once.

[@lux.illuminaughty]

All I can say is thankfully she's not ingesting the oils! The bit about changing up the area that she's applying the one oil, as recommended by either the label or the seller, is interesting...I know lots of these oils are very potent and a lot of people have topical reactions (among others) to them, so this "recommendation" to me sounds like an effort to mitigate sensitization or worse reactions that could happen by applying to the same area of the body consistently.

[@4everSterlingKnight]

as a person who works social media for a nonprofit and uses social media schedulers regularly- you actually can’t schedule instagram stories, instagram doesn’t allow it.

[@cateverett4263]

Chocolate does not cause urinary incontinence. What can cause it is the stress from being quizzed about food you don’t understand, then feeling like you made a bad choice, then being told it’s your fault you feel bad. Also, three year-olds do not understand delayed consequences. As in - if you eat this, later you will have a stomach ache.

[@christinescott5002]

#3 - Some essential oils are actually hormone disruptors- specifically lavender and tea tree as they contain the following: eucalyptol, 4-terpineol, dipentene/limonene, alpha-terpineol, linalyl acetate, linalool, alpha-terpinene, gamma-terpinene. I would definitely suggest if anyone is using any essential oils for medical conditions that they would talk to their physician as adverse actions could take place.

[@DracoTriste]

This is so good to know! Thank you!

[@LoudLilDucky]

There’s a reason that massage therapist can’t even use certain ones when people are pregnant

[@chantristrammell6088]

As someone who had undiagnosed PMDD, PCOS, and diagnosed after surgery with endometriosis, I am offended with the implication that oils are an instant cure. The symptoms she described were my experience for so much of my life prior to having my uterus removed. I had it removed at age 28 and never had kids. I was willing to sacrifice that just to have a life. Someone offering oils to help me would have gotten punched in the face.

[@d.awdreygore]

This first one is sickly reminiscent of 8 passengers. Sounds like grouchy kids don't get dinner in their house?!

[@Mama_Bear524]

So much this!!! It’s abusive

[@annadorothygerard4010]

Grouchy kids get fed first in my house! It’s usually they are hungry or tired!

[@whollyraw]

With regards to story 1- 3yo toddler peeing her pants- the mom was most likely too busy making this manipulative video of her children making the wrong choices to pick up her child’s cues that she needed the bathroom.

[@afraaomar4682]

I have been eating Kitkat my whole life.. Never once did it "make my tummy hurt" not it did to anyone I know.. I know that can happen to someone because not everything works for everyone(which is also applied to the YL thing) but she made it seem like if you eat Kitkat you WILL have a bad reaction because it is "cheap candy"!

[@LoudLilDucky]

Did your KitKat make you pee yourself? 😂

[@bluealien-mae]

Kids even adults can have bad reactions to things they haven't had in a while. I don't eat chocolate often, but when I do it can easily make me sick since I'm not used to eating it. This coupled with stress from the mother is probably what caused her issues.

[@heatburg]

@@bluealien-mae That's exactly what I was thinking! If this is stuff they're not used to eating, there's every chance it can make their stomach hurt. But that's not because it's "poison." It's just how bodies work.

[@afraaomar4682]

​@@bluealien-maebut she makes it seem like candy is the devil's food and that it is a poison! This is the thing I hate the most with YL they make you beleive everything other than their snake oils in a poison

[@maggiemaeasmr]

Watching that first story made my tummy hurt. Those poor babies! It’s giving me Ruby Franke vibes.

[@aussiemum32]

As a mother, I have a daughter who has autism and ADHD, my youngest suffers from depression, and my brother suffers from schizophrenia, and it makes me so angry when these MLM huns make these outrageous claims of what it cures, and worse what causes issues. If anything could be cured by a single tablet, oil, or drink, doctors worldwide would be prescribing it. Also, I'd rather keep my money in my pocket.

[@lux.illuminaughty]

I am not a mother, and those claims make me mama bear ferocious! I was diagnosed with migraines over 40 years ago, and they increased in my 20s+ to become a daily issue in my 30s, so I've been approached by nearly every family member with something to try. Thankfully none of them were in a position to make money by their suggestions, they really did/do just want to help - and since the doctors & specialists were 100% taking the same tack until (about 5yrs ago), basically trying anything that might help and offering anecdotal evidence from other patients, I can't fault friends and family. I'm grateful that they kept their ears open on my behalf. Hearing about the depths of fantasy these reps will engage in, and delusionally encourage their customers to do with no awareness or regard for the dangers they're putting into the world sometimes actually makes me feel sick. The less terrifying ones give me acid reflux, but I can usually get through those stories.

[@businessacc179]

“You have to eat it” and “I’ll just cry myself to bed” things we just don’t say to our four children & that they’d never say because we don’t do these types of “lessons” The toxicity is over the top here.

[@artisticflower]

The lady claiming her periods were magically fixed by YL products 😂 dude, your new BC finally caught up to you and regulated your cycle.

[@MoncheriRous]

I know! My mother had heavy periods and her doctor was really worried because she was bleeding a lot and she was anemic. If the bleeding continues they would have done something drastic like operating. But this girl claims she was heavy bleeding, twice a month, for 6 months. I don’t know how she is still alive. And her doctor didn’t know what was happening!! 12 years of studying for nothing!! 😂😂😂

[@interlocution6619]

I love how she also picked terrible candy options that aren't usually preferred by the age group of her children.

[@mermeow]

That first story gave me 8 Passengers vibes. I hope those kids are ok, & the mother (& father) stops using food as a punishment. 😿

[@1961-R.A.B]

as someone who grew up up with parents similar to the lady in the first clip (altho not mlmers) this is absolutely sickening. i am now struggling with eating a simple candy without feeling guilt because its “poison”, yet i still overeat if they are offered- because i wasnt allowed to have them as a kid. thank you for talking about this.

[@haileyhatfield86]

I would call CPS immediately on the grounds of the first woman threatening to withhold food as a punishment. That is unacceptable.

[@arielbearden6076]

I’m usually a bigger fan of MLM horror story videos, but this top fails video was top notch. Love it when sassy/sarcastic Hannah comes out.

[@daftoptimist]

The one with the period claims hit my rage button hard. I have uterine fibroids and suffer from heavy periods. I can’t get estrogen BC because of a history of migraines, and I can’t get an IUD safety because the fibroids have warped my uterus’s shape. I have limited options for controlling the heavy bleeding, I have anemia because of the bleeding, and if I want to preserve my fertility I need surgery that could set me back by several thousands. And if I didn’t know better by now, this irresponsible hun’s medical claims would get me curious. Women’s health is such a complicated maze, full of financial pressure, stress, and heartbreak, and it boils my blood to see her taking advantage of it.

[@elizabethk.4157]

It sounds like she may have developed andenomyiosis from giving birth

[@kaila288]

What is with people withholding food from their children for acting like a child…. That first clip was very disturbing…..what probably caused the 3 year old to have an accident is the constant pestering and pressure her parents put on her.

[@thegrimlooper]

Kids understand more than we know, but they will not be as emotionally mature or intelligent as their parents for quite some time. “Self inflicted tummy hurt” no, mom offered the ultimatum so

[@Nereid86]

Yessss about the hun filming and driving. If they have as much “time freedom” as they claim, why can’t they just wait till they park the car?

[@shiankovalik-stager7344]

That mom in the first one was incredibly manipulative to her children as well as I feel like she definitely punish them because they chose the candy she just used a different excuse but overall she was pissed that they chose the candy instead of what she shills from her MLM. Not feeding your children is abuse. The fact that she even put that out online that she wouldn’t of fed her child because they were cranky. You can let your child have a moment and take a time out but they should still be eating. And the fact that she said that her child had an accident because they had a piece of candy is ridiculous my children don’t get candy very often but them having a treat doesn’t make them have an accident. That wasn’t cause-and-effect that was her just trying to make some dumb fake point that doesn’t actually exist. Just the audacity

[@anij80]

The irony is they are cranky because they are hungry!!! I don't understand her though process!!

[@tweedlebug123]

@@anij80it's not that she's cranky. It's that she chose the wrong choice. She was going to look for ANY reason to punish her for not choosing Ningxia

[@anij80]

@@tweedlebug123 got cha!!!! this was so cringe!!! i was getting mad tbh. How is this mom doing this?

[@petrichorbones]

on the first story, i also hate how she calls the candy "poison" in front of her child too. like this small young kid is hearing that her mother let her eat poison?????? like its just one more layer of the layers of hecked up happening here.

[@Thesam1117]

I usually don’t comment but it breaks my heart to see a mother use her children to advertise her mlm product):

[@geoderox]

The first video genuinely makes me sick. The mom frames it as a "free choice" but clearly she's punishing the children that choose "wrong." Who wants to bet she sent her daughter to her room to not because she was "grouchy" but to reinforce the idea that candy is bad?

[@nicolesnaturalpath8010]

My toddler heard my show and said "I want cheap chocolate" 😅😂when you paused the reel

[@MsKati30]

I know the family in the first story. I have been blocked by the mother on social media for questioning her. Much of what she puts out is terribly disturbing and over the top extreme

[@jessielee3882]

3am Australian time, up feeding my newborn, I’ve never been so excited to see a new video! 😍

[@Ruth_Rosa]

I’m also feeding my newborn while watching! 💙

[@veronica58]

I really appreciate your work and the valuable information about the unsustainability of this "business model." I am especially grateful that you pointed out how ridiculous--and dangerous--it is that these Huns post content WHILE THEY ARE DRIVING! And why would a child be sent to bed without dinner for being grumpy? A far more likely explanation for her 3-year-old's accident is the stress/anxiety she felt about making the choice that her mom obviously disapproved of. These parents should be sent to parenting classes along with drivers's ed. Disgusting.

[@JLCME]

So my daughter has cystitis and can have pee accidents after sour candy, but there's no way that candy reached the bladder in 8 minutes 😂😂. I'm only as far as the first video but my heart hurts for those kids who are only learning to be people pleasers and develop eating disorders. Withholding dinner because a kid is grumpy?!? Howabout the kid might be grumpy bc theyre hungry and need dinner?

[@nicolegreggo9939]

I never comment on these videos, but I watch a lot of them (Hannah you have the most soothing voice for when I'm at work and knee deep in data haha) but this one made me turn my head and watch. My jaw hit the floor on that first story - especially on that last child choosing what candy she wanted. This mother should be EFFING ashamed of herself. The years and years and years of learned food demonization and the repair I've had to work on as an ADULT and STILL work on to this day (I'm almost 39 years old) is feeling all too encompassing at this moment. Absolutely disgusting. *** I just finished actually watching the clip - I cannot believe this. I want to cry for these children.

[@MissPeachyPrincess]

I’m livid with the first video. These poor children.

[@KayJoyy]

I truly hope someone saw that 1st video and reported it to CPS!!!! because WHAT!!! Thats so abusive! My heart is broken for those children. They are way to young and defenseless for any of this. We are only seeing a few minutes of their lives and I cant even imagine what their lives are like living with those monsters Edit: BECAUSE SHE WONT GET DINNER???? Im literally fuming.

[@ChibiJaime]

The first woman disgusted me to no end, but the lady talking about period health is boiling my blood so hard. I very recently got started on getting a reference for a hysto (no interest in kids on my behalf) because after describing almost exact symptoms to that godawful woman, my doc's IMMEDIATE response was "Have you ever been tested for endometriosis." It was that fast. No "well golly, Jay, we don't know what's wrong, why don't you try snake oil." Just "This is what it might be and we may want to take other steps if you don't plan on having kids and you're older anyway." Nightmare. Nightmarish! Having struggled with painful, disordered menstruation my entire life it's so gross to hear someone take advantage of people who've suffered and struggled like I have when a doctor WILL have ideas on how to proceed!

[@chickpea734]

exactly. feels like shes capitalizing off of the fact that women’s reproductive heath is rarely taken seriously by health professionals. a lot of women struggle for years with various undiagnosed reproductive health problems, that maybe they’d be desperate enough to try something as silly as an oil. feels so exploitative

[@ArwenNMyrtlesMom]

I’m horrified by the story about the young living hun exploiting her kids. I was watching this thinking “All aboard the E. D. train!” I also wish I could could drop a dime to CPS on her. Withholding food is neglect, so at least they should be investigated because they were all kind of unhinged.

[@SavannahWolfieStudio]

Hannah is so sassy this time around and I AM HERE FOR IT. Get that spice ✨

[@lizmassey6055]

17:00 👏 THANK YOU!! finally someone said it! i have no idea why or when we normalized this, but everyone who does this should be called out and arrested.

[@SassyShelly]

And of course these kids who have never probably ever get to have candy. She's going to give him something sour to try to make them not like it. What a psychopath.. are these energy drinks that she's giving the kids why are they all jumping up and down about how good it makes them feel. That can't be healthy Omg I just finished watching the clip. What in the Ruby Frankie is happening in that house ..The kid isn't going to get dinner because he ate candy 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@sarawithoutanh8302]

Wow! The fact story #1 thought this would be a good social media post makes me so worried about what the parenting looks like with the camera is not recording. 😩

[@kayladavidson2518]

ooo we got some sass from hannah today and i love it haha!! absolutely agree with everything especially the fail with the woman driving especially. as someone who was rear-ended recently (i-4 of course!) it infuriates me when people drive distracted and put so many people’s lives at risk. plus with her focus divided, the story isn’t even that good! her sentences all run on and end abruptly plus a couple standard hun catchphrases like… for what??? so dangerous and you’re so correct for calling that out when it happens

[@savagegardenrox]

I recently saw a reel from an aromatherapy instagrammer where she rubbed straight lemongrass onto her leg to show how irritating the raw herb was on skin and how it shows how much worse essential oils would be on skin. It was beautiful to see someone online other than a medical professional saying "stop putting concentrated plant oils on your skin, you will end up with a chemical burn"

[@samdor935]

When the girl peed on herself I honestly thought it was out of fear/anxiety of her moms punishment…

[@HeyScoutie]

The first video is officially the first time I had to skip a story because it was too heartbreaking. Shame on that woman smh

[@GPEVOX]

Sassy Hannah is a winner!!!! More of this please!!

[@CassTeaElle]

The most horrifying part of this for me is the idea of losing dinner privileges as a punishment for misbehavior... that's absolutely disgsuting and abusive.

[@DogHairRules]

Oh my God! Every time I think they can't sink lower they DO. WHAT is wrong with these people?????

[@Ravengirl17]

I'm here for you not taking any of the BS from these "huns" especially the 1st woman! So angry on how manipulative she is with her kids! I saw your update on Instagram too. I'm glad someone is aware of how these poor kids are being treated!!

[@mikayland505]

Hannah, I LOVE your stern demeanor in this video. Get em girl.

[@KateWelshofer]

These parents are so gross... when all these MLMs huns are like, "yOu GeT tO SpEnD mOrE TiMe WiTh YoUr KiDs"....do a favor to your poor kids and get a job working as far away from them as possible. This is unconscionable. It's never surprising but so disgusting.

[@CristaCampsCossie]

The first story where the mom is threatening to take away her child’s dinner for whining… it gives me some serious Ruby Frankie vibes. I feel sad for the kids and the mom too. I hope she stops selling oils someday, or at least stops using her kids this way 😢

[@SagittariusMom]

Peeing herself can also be a sign of child abuse.

[@mysticloverfairy1]

It could be yes, though she did mention she hadn’t had an accident in a week, so she’s probably still in the process of potty training ,I remember when my great niece was potty training she did have a few accidents. So it could be one or the other.

[@SagittariusMom]

@@mysticloverfairy1 her mom is so manipulative, I feel it's her fault. I had a school friend who peed the bed still at age 9 bc her parents hit her with a kettle cord :(

[@modeanb]

literally so happy to hear you mention reproductive endocrinologists! I'm making my rounds as an admin through all of the endocrine departments at one of the best hospitals in the country and what that hun described is EXACTLY what an repro endo sees for. I never knew they existed before i worked for one but they see for irregular periods, pcos, menopause, infertility, some genetic disorders, and more. some might see for pmdd. please if you experience symptoms like these find or get referred to a reproductive endocrinologist